He can't get an Oscar because he's not considered an actor, which is why he's shooting down animators and visual effects artists roles in the capture performance to make it seem more like it was all him. Which is only partly true.
props to him and Peter Jackson that was the only one to believe on this type of peformance at the time everybody was laughing and skeptical about Andy's commitment to Gollum now Andy has a empire and created a new world ☺
Well, George Lucas was technically the first with Jar Jar. Obviously, he wasn't met with critical acclaim and accolades for that performance, but he was definitely the first.
I've included a link to footage of Best's performance in phantom. Unless I'm mistaken, track points are being utilized. ruclips.net/video/g07s5FOc2Xs/видео.html
Agree with Josh. The animators do most of the grunt work and the actors get all the credit. Without us, you'd have another ME: Andromeda on your hands.
He's THE go to guy for this, can any actor do this? Yes but studios send them to Andy to learn how - no one is better at it and the industry know this.
I don't think it's a downgrade to perform as an avatar. I actually think it's something he is very proud of... he's the best at it. But it's good he gets to change it up now and then.
If he is nominated this year, he will go up against Daniel Day Lewis... :( If Day Lewis is at the top of his game, i really want him to win and be the only actor ever to get 4 Oscars. But i also want Serkis to win, he has been overlooked for far too long now, it's a real shame. They should have halted "Phantom Thread" til next year :(
Some of the best acting performances, are never really trully appreciated by the general public. These actors have a harder job acting like animals/creatures, and an amazing Job in doing so. The Production and Post-production team are equaly as amazing.
Only if he shares that oscar with all the vfx artists who polished, improved, and in some cases redid his performance. In this video he completely writes them out of the picture, especially the animators who poured their time into making all the performances shine especially brightly.
Erica - Does the costume artist or hair stylist share the Oscar with the actor traditionally? I don't think giving an award to someone whose performance is the sum of other's work is unprecedented at the academy.
I thought the same thing! There are a lot of comments in this video bashing him for not acknowledging the animators for creating all the exaggeration of his performance etc, but when you look at the side-by-side of that scene, his real performance was way more evocative than what the animators did with it haha
The fact he can remember all these past experiences so well! Proves how much they all meant to him. I get why people say he is the king of motion capture! Didn't even know he was Kong! And in tin tin
He is simply amazing, and has not been nominated for either his performances as Gollum, King Kong or Caesar. It's nothing short of a scandal. He brings so much life into these characters you would at least expect him to be nominated... But nope... But this year, seriously, if he isn't nominated for best performance in either the Oscars or The Golden Globe, i will go total apeshit.
Dom Alderson I think they get Oscars too, but only for really good or innovative stuff. I'm trying to become a cg artist, but I probably won't be too concerned with awards, or at least Oscars (even though I'd really like one).
It's so sad that when an amazing actor like him goes behind the mask of graphics his talent and performance isn't appreciated in a way it deserves and more of a credit goes towards the people who designed that outer face. This man deserves an award!
I was speechless after watching the War for the Planet of the Apes, because of the connection to Caesar. The film wasn’t dialogue heavy, so it was the emotion on all the apes’ faces and their body language that really drove the film. It’s amazing to see how that was filmed. A great film and a great video.
Seeing him in the suits before the CGI just reminds me what an amazing actor this guy is. It's bizarre awards don't have a category for voice/motion capture performance these days.
His acting in motion capture is polished, improved, and in some cases, entirely redone by animators. Those animators are collaboratively responsible for the creation (and acting choices) that make it into the final film. To give any Serkis an oscar for his portrayal of a character he is not the full author of is a direct slap in the face to all the hundreds of animators who poured their souls into making a believable 3-dimensional character. (Pun intended) ;) hopefully this was helpful in explaining. I think he would be very deserving of an oscar for a performance that wasn't dependent on motion capture!
This guy is a great actor outside of a suit too very underrated in that sense but he is so amazing at creating these characters with their own mannerisms and emotions it really brings them to life.👏👏👏
I had no idea he'd gone on to do so very many of these roles! This was very informative and cool, and his demeanor in general seems very humble and kind. Really great video, thank you Wired. :)
As a fellow motion capture actor, I admire this man a lot for what he has accomplished. Andy Serkis is at the top of the food chain in the Mo-cap world!!
I think in the near future, institutions like the academy will recognize actors who do motion capture. Much like how Gary Oldman was nominated this year in The Darkest Hour, acting through augmentation whether by heavy prosthetic makeup or CGI does not lessen the actor’s craft, and likewise, the artists doing the augmenting (like Kazuhiro Tsuji for TDH) deserve praise as well.
He's so incredibly talented, and has quite an attractive and compelling presence. I hope we get to see more of him as his human self in future projects!
Just because he was innovative and helped define performance capture doesn't mean his acting deserves an Oscar. He'll probably get a special lifetime achievement award from the Academy in a decade or two.
@Decafkauffee i beg to differ acting on screen is one thing but trying to portray emotions and character while being in a green suit to which people can emotionally relate and get attached is on a whole another level :) if that doesn't deserve Oscar then i don't know what does.
Dave but then shouldn't the Oscar go to the special effects artists as well? They are the ones who translate his performance. And on that note, I think part of the problem with awarding actors for motion capture performances is that there's no way of knowing how much the original performance was tampered with in post-production. I'm not being cynical and saying the actors are cheating in any way. Serkis is clearly a great actor. But it is difficult to prove that the actor is solely responsible for what we see in the finished product. Maybe things will change in a generation or two when motion capture becomes more widely accepted.
There are many behind-the-scenes/featurette videos which show original performances side-by-side with the captured footage, and even a remarkable clip morphing footage of him acting with the performance capture rig into Cesar's face. He's absolutely right that performance capture is in no way a crutch to acting; if anything, poor acting would make something like a talking ape seem very stilted and fake indeed. Also, thankfully, there are seperate catagories for acting and special effects, so the SFX artists wouldn't have to be slighted for him to get his due. And his acting most definitely deserves an Oscar for its nuance and depth of emotional authenticity, though I'd love to see him recognised for his contribution to performance capture technology as well.
Animation is also still necessary, to augment the performance, exaggerate some expressions or do stunts, and fill in gaps and blips the motion capture doesn't pick up. And a lot more besides, like collision, and hair and cloth dynamics.
Yeah, he is actually kind of hated by the workers in the animation and VFX business because he really doesn't acknowledge all the hours of work to adapt (and very often totally redo and improve) his performances to make it actually believable for a CGI generated creature. I'm not diminishing Sirkis' acting skills, but it's a little sad that most of the people (and even Sirkis himself) don't know about the work of all these others great artists, they have been and still are at the very least as important as him to make all these characters unforgettable.
It is quite different. All the makeup in the world cannot alter the underlying performance. With mocap the actual performance is quite often changed or enhanced.
False. There are whole shots in his movies that use none of his performance at all and are completely invented by animators. Typically more than 50% of the facial animation is created by animators.
id like to see one of his performances before "post production" as he put it. He's a great actor, but his character performances are definitely not a 1-1 translation. His intentional ignorance is appalling. Artists know the truth about his attitude towards animators, I'm a little upset that the general public is fooled by this.
War for the Planet of the Apes was absolutely fabulous! The performance capture was photo realistic and so moving. Caesar is one of the most complex characters in film history and he journeys so far from start to finish in this trilogy.
U got to see the lord of the rings trilogy man, that's the best trilogy ever made, it's simply outstanding. If you see the director's cut versions, it's 12 hours of pure cinemagasm.
Andy Serkis isn't just a great motion capture actor - he's a great actor, period. King Kong, Caesar, Captain Haddock, Monkey (from Enslaved), King Bohan, Klaue, and (of course) Gollum, Serkis has portrayed some of the greatest characters of this generation, and deserves every bit of acclaim and love with his dedication to his craft.
Get this man an Oscar already. If he keeps it up, I hope he at least get a lifetime achievement award for his work in these breakthroughs. Side note: I also think motion capture would be perfect for finally doing a Thundercats movie. Still don't understand why they haven't made a movie yet out of that but they did freaking Battleship and Max Steel. Even if it sucks I just want to see it. Netflix could do it.
Andy Serkis is so talented. He genuinely deserves more attention because this kind of acting is anything but easy. Imo, it's HARDER than traditional acting. Getting into character as an animal and mimicking their behavior and then putting the emotion of character into looks ridiculously hard. Stay awesome Andy :)
The odd thing is he is not just a motion capture actor. In a traditional roles Serkis also preforms outstandingly, yet his talents are still overlooked.
he sooo deserves an Oscar...and some people here say it's not all his credit, but also of those people who make the 'final touch' actually, the performance is all his, managing & capturing emotions, dedication...you can't just take that away nor ignore it yes, we should value crew, special effects team, etc...but he's a performer (of the highest rank, especially as per difficulty)
he acts humble, because that's what actors do. yet he's completely disrespectful to all the animators making his "performance" possible www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/award-season-andy-serkis-found-new-ways-disrespect-animators-154385.html
Andy is one of the most versatile people in movies and videogames. I'm glad Black Panther (and to a lesser extent Age of Ultron) gave him the chance to be on screen with his actual face
AS is a true legend in his own time. how many GREAT movies (imo) would not have been made to their own highest standard without his performances in & alongside such innovation? Hail Serkis! We Who Are About To Watch Salute You!
Don't forget the hundreds of hours of work of the modelers who sculpted the apes and the animators taking his performance and applying it to the apes muscles and adapting the whole thing to the 3d models and rigs, plus the vfx artists making all the composition to make it look like they are really there
It’s because of Andy that Gollum looked as good as he did. They saw Andy’s test screening and realized his facial movements were so terrific that they had to incorporate him into the character more! Literally most of the post production between Fellowship and Towers was redesigning Gollum with WETA! His performance as Caesar is just as good and maybe even better than Gollum!
The man who played the the first successful film-quality, motion-capture, cgi character is now one of the world’s foremost experts on the production of motion and performance-capture sequences. Poetic.
For those claiming for an Oscar to Mr. Serkis: what made Gollum, Kong or Caesar possible wasn't just his performance, but also the work of talented motion editors and animators among many other artists. These characters were possible thanks to hundreds of people Mr. Serkis isn't bothered to mention on this video nor on 99% of his interviews, almost like if motion capture were a matter of capturing his performance and computers magically transforms that into the characters we all know. Motion editors are responsible of check and fix the captured data doesn't have errors, proportions are correct and nothing is broken. Is a highly technical task where artists are also required to have advanced anatomy expertise. It is a department itself. Animators, pushes Serkis's work even further, like a second layer of acting and performance. The character you see on screen is made up by Mr.Serkis and a whole team of animators. If either of these's work was not present, the character wouldn't be believable, as simple as that. I think it would be quite unfair that an individual could win an Oscar for a character where he/she is not entirely responsible of.
100% with you on this statement! The way he is bringing this out to the world is not the honest representation of what actually is done and to be honest, he might be a good actor and had a big role in this process but he should not be able to get an award for this as 100's of people worked on getting that performance on the screen.
The digital artists need to receive more credit, creating the skeletons and placing those muscles and running all the simulations is no easy task. For one person creating Gollum or the ape could take years but there's probably hundreds of people working on it together.
He is absolutely an amazing actor no matter what face he wears! Thank you for all you do and all the wonderful movies you helped to bring to life and bring us such magic!
The erasure of Ahmed Best's pioneering work as Jar Jar Binks from this "history of motion caputure" is at best revisionist. Jar Jar helped create the workflow, iteration process and litmus test for all CGI characters to this day. On some days the code was being written in real time as Best was moving. To deny Jar Jar's place in film history is to deny the hundreds of VFX technicians, animators, code writers and producers their respect. People like John Knoll, Rob Coleman and scores of others.
Manusfilm Studios to be fair, the video is called 'andy serkis breaks down his motion capture performances', keyword "his", not 'andy serkis breaks down the history of motion capture performances'.
I hated the end of War for the Planet of the Apes but it was still a good movie nonetheless. The ending just got me sad :/ *SPOILER* *are you sure you wanna know* *okay, I warned you* *Caesar died*
genius. many people dont know that Andy Serkis was on the forefront for innovation and development of motion capture. He has been involved with this technology since it was in its infancy, and was more personally involved with its development than I had assumed. Very interesting
Andrew B Yeah because animators never get credit for animation.... it's not like the actors in performance capture are underated... I mean just look at Andy has loads of awards right.
"As well as rendering, the fur, the texture in the eyes, the hair, water, the ability to have snow, rain on fur" He mentioned multiple departments with that statement, and has not once thanked the animators without whom he would have no career. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve credit, but it's a collaborative effort and every member of the team deserves equal credit. At the moment, the public seems to primarily see Serkis and he seems perfectly delighted with it.
The real stars of the character is not featured in this video, they are the faceless VFX artist who work thousands of hours to make it real. Give credit where credit is due
they actually do do the performance. the motion/facial capture does not automatically turn into cgi footage. it is used as a reference for the animation. you can see behind the scenes footage in lotr where there are entire shots that are created purely by the animators. the mocap actor does deserve a ton of credit, but they are by no means the sole performer of the character.
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Give the man an oscar already !!
masterofsoccer1 the oscars are a joke anyways
He's definitely earned one
Only if he shares that oscar with all the animators and various vfx artists who polished, improved, and in some cases, redid his performance....
He can't get an Oscar because he's not considered an actor, which is why he's shooting down animators and visual effects artists roles in the capture performance to make it seem more like it was all him. Which is only partly true.
the academy board is waaayyy too retarded...sadly for all legends out there :( poor Leo barely got his -_-
props to him and Peter Jackson that was the only one to believe on this type of peformance at the time
everybody was laughing and skeptical about Andy's commitment to Gollum
now Andy has a empire and created a new world ☺
Well, George Lucas was technically the first with Jar Jar. Obviously, he wasn't met with critical acclaim and accolades for that performance, but he was definitely the first.
Ahmed Best didn't have track points on him
the CGI characters was loosely based on the actors peformance
what they did with Gollum still is done today
I've included a link to footage of Best's performance in phantom. Unless I'm mistaken, track points are being utilized. ruclips.net/video/g07s5FOc2Xs/видео.html
Props to the hundreds of artists that actually made this happen. Serkis was the voice and maybe 30% of Gollum
Agree with Josh. The animators do most of the grunt work and the actors get all the credit. Without us, you'd have another ME: Andromeda on your hands.
The Man. The Master. The Legend.
He's THE go to guy for this, can any actor do this? Yes but studios send them to Andy to learn how - no one is better at it and the industry know this.
+Francis Dickinson no one said anyone can do it.
Props to all the animators for cleaning up the mocap footage. And correcting all of both his and the data's mistakes.
but also neglecting and not mentionning the the work of hundreds of VFX Animators, fixing and making this whole thing work..
Goblinoid yea man, every vfx animator is fuming right now.. So much Ego in that video.. Its insane.
I absolutely love Serkis, im glad he doesnt have to wear a suit in Black Panther though, the guy deserves to act without dots all over him.
Can't wait to see him in BP.
He was "himself" in Peter Jackson's King Kong movie as well! He played the ship's cook in addition to Kong.
he always reminded me of Popeye in that role lol
DeRock true
I don't think it's a downgrade to perform as an avatar. I actually think it's something he is very proud of... he's the best at it. But it's good he gets to change it up now and then.
The king of motion capture!
Nah, Nolan North is the king of Motion Capture, Andy Serkis, he is the GOD of motion capture.
(Or performance capture)
Toby Kebbell is the apprentice
Most of the work is done by animators. The actor only has to come up with facial expressions.
greynox wow are we really going to get offended when people say the phrase motion capture damn what has this world come to this is fucking pathetic
@@papulrocks794 He actually owns the company that most filmmakers go to listen to his podcast
I've loved every role he's every played. I look forward to all his future endeavors.
Stormedcrown ever*
Someone get this man an Oscar
If he is nominated this year, he will go up against Daniel Day Lewis... :(
If Day Lewis is at the top of his game, i really want him to win and be the only actor ever to get 4 Oscars. But i also want Serkis to win, he has been overlooked for far too long now, it's a real shame. They should have halted "Phantom Thread" til next year :(
An absolutely brilliant person.
Anyone who hasn't seen him as Van Gogh in Power of art, you're in for a treat.
Just looked for this and saw it's by imperialist, right-wing fucknut Simon Schama. So, nope.
Yeah, that is in my top ten of best acted performances ever
Raskolnikov32 ah, refusing to see past politics and unable to just appreciate art...
Some of the best acting performances, are never really trully appreciated by the general public. These actors have a harder job acting like animals/creatures, and an amazing Job in doing so. The Production and Post-production team are equaly as amazing.
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what an odd way to end the video...
Not the Bees Reviews thought my signal got cut off lol
it made me laugh, it was so random
i was expecting trump at the end of the video
The actor's performance is the actor's performanceBioOoOooOoOuOuouOuOooOoo
The intern was in charge of cutaways.
World's No. 1 underrated actor. The talent of Andy Serkis is beyond anything out there.
what a legend , i hope he will get oscar , at least honorary oscar
hello fellow Funhaus fan
The oscars dont care anymore fuck it
hello driss lol
Only if he shares that oscar with all the vfx artists who polished, improved, and in some cases redid his performance. In this video he completely writes them out of the picture, especially the animators who poured their time into making all the performances shine especially brightly.
Erica - Does the costume artist or hair stylist share the Oscar with the actor traditionally? I don't think giving an award to someone whose performance is the sum of other's work is unprecedented at the academy.
3:19 Just look at the emotion on Andys face... Goddam insane skills.
I thought the same thing! There are a lot of comments in this video bashing him for not acknowledging the animators for creating all the exaggeration of his performance etc, but when you look at the side-by-side of that scene, his real performance was way more evocative than what the animators did with it haha
So true ❣️ I felt every bit of emotion he was expressing ❣️
I like him for his work in motion capture, he really makes the character feel real
The fact he can remember all these past experiences so well! Proves how much they all meant to him. I get why people say he is the king of motion capture! Didn't even know he was Kong! And in tin tin
He is simply amazing, and has not been nominated for either his performances as Gollum, King Kong or Caesar. It's nothing short of a scandal. He brings so much life into these characters you would at least expect him to be nominated... But nope... But this year, seriously, if he isn't nominated for best performance in either the Oscars or The Golden Globe, i will go total apeshit.
FabledSomething couldn't agree more, nice touch with the apeshit comment
And a lot of people wouldn't understand
Gollum = oscar
Ceasar = oscar
Snoke = Oscar
all the rest = oscars
case closed XD
Probably because those performances also belong to a team of animators that do 70% of the work
Thank you Red. Someone needed to say it. sigh.
Someone needs to give him an Oscar
Dom Alderson
I think they get Oscars too, but only for really good or innovative stuff. I'm trying to become a cg artist, but I probably won't be too concerned with awards, or at least Oscars (even though I'd really like one).
'someone' is rightly said! ...cuz the academy is waayyyy too shitty to do so...he deserves 3 not just 1...but, sadly, fat chance :\
*mails him a stuffed Oscar the Grouch*
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Just wait, one day there will be a movie where EVERY character is played by Andy Serkis.
LuminousMongoose I would happily watch it!
He is one of the best actors working today. Hands down.
It's so sad that when an amazing actor like him goes behind the mask of graphics his talent and performance isn't appreciated in a way it deserves and more of a credit goes towards the people who designed that outer face.
This man deserves an award!
To think that this guy will direct Venom 2 Is Incredible
I was speechless after watching the War for the Planet of the Apes, because of the connection to Caesar. The film wasn’t dialogue heavy, so it was the emotion on all the apes’ faces and their body language that really drove the film. It’s amazing to see how that was filmed. A great film and a great video.
He is precious to the film industry and to the art department of the world. He should win multiple oscars. Bravo!
Andy Serkis is such a humble genius, he makes me cry 😫😍
Seeing him in the suits before the CGI just reminds me what an amazing actor this guy is. It's bizarre awards don't have a category for voice/motion capture performance these days.
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Seriously how this man still didn't get an Oscar???
Because he does about 50% of the acting you see on screen.
His acting in motion capture is polished, improved, and in some cases, entirely redone by animators. Those animators are collaboratively responsible for the creation (and acting choices) that make it into the final film. To give any Serkis an oscar for his portrayal of a character he is not the full author of is a direct slap in the face to all the hundreds of animators who poured their souls into making a believable 3-dimensional character. (Pun intended) ;) hopefully this was helpful in explaining.
I think he would be very deserving of an oscar for a performance that wasn't dependent on motion capture!
This guy is a great actor outside of a suit too very underrated in that sense but he is so amazing at creating these characters with their own mannerisms and emotions it really brings them to life.👏👏👏
I had no idea he'd gone on to do so very many of these roles! This was very informative and cool, and his demeanor in general seems very humble and kind. Really great video, thank you Wired. :)
This man was golem, King Kong, and Caesar😱 good god he’s a legend
Gollum*
He’s honestly such an amazing actor it’s crazy people just want to shove Him in a green suit
jeffrey bridges it’s still acting people just don’t realize that
jeffrey bridges go watch him in age of ultron
• ItsMrRogue • I’ve seen all his movies
did you not watch the whole video? he says himself at the end, it's not a lesser or even really a different kind of acting
Flip Flopper nah that man already got enough balls
My PRECIOUS!!!!!
best gollum ever
Mad respect for projects like these. And absolute respect for Andy Serkis.
As a fellow motion capture actor, I admire this man a lot for what he has accomplished. Andy Serkis is at the top of the food chain in the Mo-cap world!!
How about an ultimate match up of motion capture actors?
Andy Serkis vs. TJ Storm?
King Kong vs. Godzilla
Serkis deserves so much praise for his work in this area of film.
I think in the near future, institutions like the academy will recognize actors who do motion capture. Much like how Gary Oldman was nominated this year in The Darkest Hour, acting through augmentation whether by heavy prosthetic makeup or CGI does not lessen the actor’s craft, and likewise, the artists doing the augmenting (like Kazuhiro Tsuji for TDH) deserve praise as well.
The man deserves so much respect and praise for pushing the boundary of motion capture technology
He's so incredibly talented, and has quite an attractive and compelling presence. I hope we get to see more of him as his human self in future projects!
A J agreed! As far away from vfx as he can be so he can earn an oscar in his own right!
Andy is so underrated it makes me weep. He's an absolute genius hidden inside a genuinely lovely man. How come he's never had an Oscar, really? :/
He single handedly redefined the performance capture in movies and yet he hasnt been given OSCAR what a shame he deservers it more then others :)
He hasn't even been nominated.
Just because he was innovative and helped define performance capture doesn't mean his acting deserves an Oscar. He'll probably get a special lifetime achievement award from the Academy in a decade or two.
@Decafkauffee i beg to differ acting on screen is one thing but trying to portray emotions and character while being in a green suit to which people can emotionally relate and get attached is on a whole another level :) if that doesn't deserve Oscar then i don't know what does.
Dave but then shouldn't the Oscar go to the special effects artists as well? They are the ones who translate his performance. And on that note, I think part of the problem with awarding actors for motion capture performances is that there's no way of knowing how much the original performance was tampered with in post-production. I'm not being cynical and saying the actors are cheating in any way. Serkis is clearly a great actor. But it is difficult to prove that the actor is solely responsible for what we see in the finished product. Maybe things will change in a generation or two when motion capture becomes more widely accepted.
There are many behind-the-scenes/featurette videos which show original performances side-by-side with the captured footage, and even a remarkable clip morphing footage of him acting with the performance capture rig into Cesar's face. He's absolutely right that performance capture is in no way a crutch to acting; if anything, poor acting would make something like a talking ape seem very stilted and fake indeed.
Also, thankfully, there are seperate catagories for acting and special effects, so the SFX artists wouldn't have to be slighted for him to get his due. And his acting most definitely deserves an Oscar for its nuance and depth of emotional authenticity, though I'd love to see him recognised for his contribution to performance capture technology as well.
Motion capture acting is honestly elite acting, what an incredible talent
I loved this series. THE NEW ONE OF COURSE!
Damn, I never realised he worked on so many films that utilized motion capture, He really is a legend. Respect to him.
Animation is also still necessary, to augment the performance, exaggerate some expressions or do stunts, and fill in gaps and blips the motion capture doesn't pick up. And a lot more besides, like collision, and hair and cloth dynamics.
Yeah, he is actually kind of hated by the workers in the animation and VFX business because he really doesn't acknowledge all the hours of work to adapt (and very often totally redo and improve) his performances to make it actually believable for a CGI generated creature.
I'm not diminishing Sirkis' acting skills, but it's a little sad that most of the people (and even Sirkis himself) don't know about the work of all these others great artists, they have been and still are at the very least as important as him to make all these characters unforgettable.
It is quite different. All the makeup in the world cannot alter the underlying performance. With mocap the actual performance is quite often changed or enhanced.
False. There are whole shots in his movies that use none of his performance at all and are completely invented by animators. Typically more than 50% of the facial animation is created by animators.
id like to see one of his performances before "post production" as he put it. He's a great actor, but his character performances are definitely not a 1-1 translation. His intentional ignorance is appalling. Artists know the truth about his attitude towards animators, I'm a little upset that the general public is fooled by this.
Give this man an Oscar for his work. I mean seriously, no other actor has done more for mocap performance than Mr. Serkis.
They should call it Performance capture. It’s capturing more then just his movements. It’s capturing his performance and acting abilities.
They are calling it Performance Capture. Have you even watched the video?
This video made me respect his role a lot more. Great Job Andy Serkis and great job WIRED.
Such a shame there is no oscar category for motion capture
War for the Planet of the Apes was absolutely fabulous! The performance capture was photo realistic and so moving. Caesar is one of the most complex characters in film history and he journeys so far from start to finish in this trilogy.
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This man could carry scenes by himself in a mocap suit. He deserves an oscar.
Sean Engelgau what of the hundreds of animators who enhance and in some cases replace his captured performances? And the vfx crews?
Erica you are very right!
Everytime I think of motion capture, Andy Serkis always comes first on my mind. This dude is a legend.
This man is so talented. Is amazing
I have seen Andy Serkis at the Brussels comic con last week end😍😍😍😍
Apes together strong
A modern acting pioneer. He and the teams that made this a reality are a true inspiration.
Andy Serkis, nominate this man for an Oscar already!!!
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Love Andy, this guy seriously deserves an oscar for all the things he did, his mocap is absolutely brilliant
Rest In Peace Caesar!
this is fascinating. they need to do more stuff like this
I’ve never seen any of these movies but this is still interesting
U got to see the lord of the rings trilogy man, that's the best trilogy ever made, it's simply outstanding. If you see the director's cut versions, it's 12 hours of pure cinemagasm.
Moe do you live under a rock?
@Haeral haha yeah, if you ain't hooked before Balrog shows up, you are pretty much hooked after it xD
even my grandparents saw lord of the rings
it's crazy how much talent Andy has. Just imagine having to act like that incredible.
For sure maybe mention the team of animators that polish the motion capture after it's recorded though...
Theron Miles 'andy serkis breaks down his motion capture performances' "his performances"
Theron Miles not to mention he did mention them. several times.
Andy Serkis isn't just a great motion capture actor - he's a great actor, period.
King Kong, Caesar, Captain Haddock, Monkey (from Enslaved), King Bohan, Klaue, and (of course) Gollum, Serkis has portrayed some of the greatest characters of this generation, and deserves every bit of acclaim and love with his dedication to his craft.
cant wait to see him do live action in black panther!
Get this man an Oscar already. If he keeps it up, I hope he at least get a lifetime achievement award for his work in these breakthroughs.
Side note: I also think motion capture would be perfect for finally doing a Thundercats movie. Still don't understand why they haven't made a movie yet out of that but they did freaking Battleship and Max Steel. Even if it sucks I just want to see it. Netflix could do it.
Where is his god damn oscar Hollywood?!
Quite possibly one of the best actors that will ever walk this Earth.
His performance as King Kong is absolutely mindblowing! My personal favourite
Julian Pagano people don’t give him enough recognition as Caesar aswell. He was incredible in the planet of the apes films
@@Ky-xm7tc agreed
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Andy Serkis is so talented. He genuinely deserves more attention because this kind of acting is anything but easy. Imo, it's HARDER than traditional acting. Getting into character as an animal and mimicking their behavior and then putting the emotion of character into looks ridiculously hard. Stay awesome Andy :)
Was hoping for some Snoke action!
Still can't believe this man hasn't won an Oscar. My favourite actor by far
All of Andy Cerkis’s movies have been great. He even has a job in the MCU and Star Wars. He has it made.
The odd thing is he is not just a motion capture actor. In a traditional roles Serkis also preforms outstandingly, yet his talents are still overlooked.
What do animators do again?
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he sooo deserves an Oscar...and some people here say it's not all his credit, but also of those people who make the 'final touch'
actually, the performance is all his, managing & capturing emotions, dedication...you can't just take that away nor ignore it
yes, we should value crew, special effects team, etc...but he's a performer (of the highest rank, especially as per difficulty)
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This was a great video this guy dose not get enough credit
the VFX artsits and animators get even less credit.
I'd argue he gets too much credit.
So many notable motion capture and vfx to his name.. I like how he has become so knowledgable in this field👌
I can dig a humble actor. 10/10, Andy!
he acts humble, because that's what actors do. yet he's completely disrespectful to all the animators making his "performance" possible www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/award-season-andy-serkis-found-new-ways-disrespect-animators-154385.html
"Humble" enough to leave entire teams of animators out of the picture for his chance to win an oscar :/
One of the best actors working today. Deserves an Oscar ten times over.
No mention of the legion of animators the director collaborates with in order to craft the performances along with Andy.
Ryan Summers he mentions them several times
Andy is one of the most versatile people in movies and videogames. I'm glad Black Panther (and to a lesser extent Age of Ultron) gave him the chance to be on screen with his actual face
You Sir, are a gift to world cinema.
AS is a true legend in his own time. how many GREAT movies (imo) would not have been made to their own highest standard without his performances in & alongside such innovation? Hail Serkis! We Who Are About To Watch Salute You!
Don't forget the hundreds of hours of work of the modelers who sculpted the apes and the animators taking his performance and applying it to the apes muscles and adapting the whole thing to the 3d models and rigs, plus the vfx artists making all the composition to make it look like they are really there
Daniel Rieger totally agree with u
It’s because of Andy that Gollum looked as good as he did. They saw Andy’s test screening and realized his facial movements were so terrific that they had to incorporate him into the character more! Literally most of the post production between Fellowship and Towers was redesigning Gollum with WETA! His performance as Caesar is just as good and maybe even better than Gollum!
This legend deserve an oscar
The man who played the the first successful film-quality, motion-capture, cgi character is now one of the world’s foremost experts on the production of motion and performance-capture sequences. Poetic.
For those claiming for an Oscar to Mr. Serkis: what made Gollum, Kong or Caesar possible wasn't just his performance, but also the work of talented motion editors and animators among many other artists.
These characters were possible thanks to hundreds of people Mr. Serkis isn't bothered to mention on this video nor on 99% of his interviews, almost like if motion capture were a matter of capturing his performance and computers magically transforms that into the characters we all know. Motion editors are responsible of check and fix the captured data doesn't have errors, proportions are correct and nothing is broken. Is a highly technical task where artists are also required to have advanced anatomy expertise. It is a department itself.
Animators, pushes Serkis's work even further, like a second layer of acting and performance. The character you see on screen is made up by Mr.Serkis and a whole team of animators. If either of these's work was not present, the character wouldn't be believable, as simple as that.
I think it would be quite unfair that an individual could win an Oscar for a character where he/she is not entirely responsible of.
Sumatra Animator THANK YOU!!!
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100% with you on this statement! The way he is bringing this out to the world is not the honest representation of what actually is done and to be honest, he might be a good actor and had a big role in this process but he should not be able to get an award for this as 100's of people worked on getting that performance on the screen.
thank god there's still some people out there who know what they're talking about .
Yet he can't be bothered to mention any of them.
Serkins roles, and Benedict´s Smaug.... some of the greatest ever
The digital artists need to receive more credit, creating the skeletons and placing those muscles and running all the simulations is no easy task. For one person creating Gollum or the ape could take years but there's probably hundreds of people working on it together.
Guy still has not gotten an Oscar… if anyone is deserving it’s him.. he literally is the definition of the perfect actor
Messa not cool with WIRED neglected Ahmed Best/Jar Jar Binks, who was the one who MADE ALL OF THIS POSSIBLE!
He is absolutely an amazing actor no matter what face he wears! Thank you for all you do and all the wonderful movies you helped to bring to life and bring us such magic!
The erasure of Ahmed Best's pioneering work as Jar Jar Binks from this "history of motion caputure" is at best revisionist. Jar Jar helped create the workflow, iteration process and litmus test for all CGI characters to this day. On some days the code was being written in real time as Best was moving. To deny Jar Jar's place in film history is to deny the hundreds of VFX technicians, animators, code writers and producers their respect. People like John Knoll, Rob Coleman and scores of others.
the trouble with jar jar is that he went down in history as the most annoying character in film history.
Manusfilm Studios to be fair, the video is called 'andy serkis breaks down his motion capture performances', keyword "his", not 'andy serkis breaks down the history of motion capture performances'.
He's genuinely a legend. In the future everyone will realize what a groundbreaking, history-making actor he is. it blows my mind.
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@@andyserkis5795 no problem fake Andy Serkis 🥰
I hated the end of War for the Planet of the Apes but it was still a good movie nonetheless. The ending just got me sad :/
*SPOILER*
*are you sure you wanna know*
*okay, I warned you*
*Caesar died*
Scorpio lol I am a girl
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genius. many people dont know that Andy Serkis was on the forefront for innovation and development of motion capture. He has been involved with this technology since it was in its infancy, and was more personally involved with its development than I had assumed. Very interesting
How bout those animators, eh? Eh?! No? Nobody?
... ok.
Those animators that adjusts, enhances built the creatures and most of the cases reanimate facial movements from scratch deserves some shout out.
Aw... Thanks, man! =D
Andrew B Yeah because animators never get credit for animation.... it's not like the actors in performance capture are underated... I mean just look at Andy has loads of awards right.
"As well as rendering, the fur, the texture in the eyes, the hair, water, the ability to have snow, rain on fur" He mentioned multiple departments with that statement, and has not once thanked the animators without whom he would have no career. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve credit, but it's a collaborative effort and every member of the team deserves equal credit. At the moment, the public seems to primarily see Serkis and he seems perfectly delighted with it.
I think what he does, is even harder. What a genius.
The real stars of the character is not featured in this video, they are the faceless VFX artist who work thousands of hours to make it real. Give credit where credit is due
true, we need to value the people behind the magic too...but they DID NOT do the performance! Big difference!
they actually do do the performance. the motion/facial capture does not automatically turn into cgi footage. it is used as a reference for the animation. you can see behind the scenes footage in lotr where there are entire shots that are created purely by the animators. the mocap actor does deserve a ton of credit, but they are by no means the sole performer of the character.
Andy Serkis is talented at whole different level ❣️✨💯 He did an absolutely amazing job ❣️✨💯👍🏻