The fact that no matter how bad you feel, humans we tend to present our best face when meeting someone, the smaltalk, etc. Sorry for the edit, english is not my first language, so autocorrect often changes my words to spanish 😅
It is important to keep his exact context in mind. Although she may be accurately describing the trauma response, the underlying assumption was wrong. He was suffering due to a physical illness, Lyme Disease. He unfortunately went through years of misdiagnoses of mental illnesses where he was repeatedly told it was all in his head.
Hope I adequately addressed the fact that though my knowledge as a professional is accurate that I still need to make sure the info applies in the case of each client
❤Falling through the cracks is easy, finally starting to rebuild trust in the medical industry after countless experiences that many times left me worse than when i built up the courage to ask for help. Ren is a big building block in that foundation. Even though everything he has been through, he is using his music to fight for a better tomorrow and not an outlet to bash on the past.
I'm in the same boat. Ren encouraged me to stop giving up after gross negligence in the medical industry(one resulting in complete kidney failure and rhabdo). I've fired my doctors and moving on to the next. Medicaid doesn't provide the quality of Dr a disabled person needs(physically and mentally). The system and lack of care has ruined my life for the past 15 yrs. It's not how I FELT about the industry, it's how it IS. Naivety towards this issue keeps us in the shackles. 💜💜💜
Ren explained in the missing "Chapters" 1-8. If he didn't fight for his own solutions of what was actually wrong with him and listened to the doctors he was positive he would of been sectioned/put into a mental facility and fed drugs he didn't even need. It would of exasperated his physical condition likely not finding out it was Lyme disease.
@@Therapy2Day Great point and many people in all professions will tell you that nobody cares more about your own well-being than you and maybe your significant other. 😊
I've always interpreted the sudden shift in the 2nd verse as Ren saying "I'm not mentally ill, I'm trying to come to terms with how screwed up the world is and non of it makes sense." Basically, "I'm not the one who is off here. The world is off."
I see someone else has mentioned Ren's Chapters where he bares his soul and even goes back to a place where he did not really want to go, in order to open the door to some issues around the medical profession and the pain that he has gone through. I would encourage any "Therapist," whether practicing or studying, to at least watch Chapter 6 found on RenMakesStuff. These Chapters are Ren's personal story leading up to the release of his latest music video "Troubles." No I don't believe he hates doctors and/or therapists. He does not have a bone of hate in him. He just wants them to do better. That message is very clear.
Ren said in an interview with Zack Sang Show The pig is a bit like the rabbit character in the Donnie Darko film I think the way profit drives treatment is what stands out to me the most I dont think it works well in a medical setting
Also Ren pretty much researched his own path to diagnosis He was desperate to get back to his life which is music Some of the professionals told him its all in your head get a hobby If you watch his Chapters 1 to 8 he speaks about this.
It's a tough balance between needing to make a living (plus for many doctors paying off loans) and prioritizing patient care. I hope we find a model that balances both better in the future
@@Therapy2Day it shouldn't be a tough balance. Patient care should always be top priority. A Doctor's loans and living is their problem, not the patients.
The riff - loud, sudden, immediate; nearly drowning out the medical professional - very unsettling. Add the unstable table filled with coping - coffee, cigs, drugs - and the children's song seeking a way out. Yeah... hits hard.
@@Therapy2Day Partly that; the misdiagnosis, the inappropriate medication, confidently presenting forlorn hope treatments. Primarily, though, the discord and dissonance between the unique individual illness and the institutionalized, formulaic response. I'm only talking about the what I hear in the music, btw. Not even going to comment on this old veteran's opinion of health care :-P
I think it’s always important to remember that Ren isn’t against medication or all health professionals, but he is very much against doctors or therapists who don’t listen to their patients or really try to figure out the underlying cause but instead just prescribe pills. He got misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder after a one page questionnaire and met a lot of doctors who treated him like a hypochondriac. Also my guess is that the words by the female character here is things he has literally been told when it’s a female voice and when she is lip syncing to his voice it is an interpretation of the way he was treated, as (hopefully) no one would actually say those words outright and with that attitude. I understand that resources don’t always allow health care professionals to devote as much time to each patient as they might want to, but still. As Ren says in his 1 mil subscribers video, it is the duty of the medical industry to do better so less people fall through the cracks. Hopefully songs like this and Troubles as well as the 8 chapters telling his story will help push for change. For more Ren, I highly recommend Crutch feat. Bibi, Chalk Outlines (live) with Chinchilla, Seven Sins, and Lost All Faith. Just to name a few 😅 Anyway thank you for being aware that patients might not always show how they’re actually feeling and that you might need to dig a little deeper. I have definitely had times seeing psychiatrists or psychologists where it becomes difficult to open up because they say something like “you look like you’re doing well today” when I enter the room with a smile on my face even if that’s just how I greet people. I guess it can be problematic to be too friendly…
Yes absolutely, this video needs to be a reminder for medical professionals to collaborate with clients, because we aren't the ones living their lives. And also, yes, I try not to assume how someone is doing and let them tell me. If something doesn't seem to match, however, I may bring up that they were looking smiley but are saying they are doing terribly, and let them explain the apparent contradiction. I try not to assume.
@@Therapy2DayI've seen someone comment before about how once something gets stated in your medical file, everyone who looks at it after, takes it as fact and doesn't question it. I can't believe it took so long for someone to realize that Ren wasn't bipolar. I was lucky, I think, in that once my previous doctor retired, my new doctor actually listened to what I was saying and didn't rely on the other doctor's assumptions and I was finally able to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia after complaining about my pain for years. I think the younger doctors must be learning something differently and are more empathetic with their patients. During COVID anytime I had an appointment she was sure to ask how I was doing mentally as well which I found really surprising.
Thoughtful reaction thank you. I'm here commenting on most of the reactions to this song as I can right now particularly because Ren is having some copyright issues (not of his fault) with one of the beats he purchased and the video has been taken down and they're greedily trying to claim upto 100% of the royalties for his whole track "Industry is cutthroat" - oh the irony. I just wanted to bring awareness on his behalf #FreeSickBoi #SaveSickBoi
Awesome that he is reaching professionals and giving them a genuine insight of how it feels to go through these problems with our health care providers. Personally I have to choose between dealing with my physical pain and extreme Meniere's dizziness, because they will not allow me to have pain meds. No two class 1 drugs in my area. Combination of neck and back injuries that caused permanent nerve damage. I chose to counter the dizziness, because struggling with level 8 pain is better than laying on the floor puking for hours on end every other day is harder than trying to walk across the room. Both cause depression. It's a messed up system for sure
My thoughts are that the connection he's making between the two narratives in the track is that it's all exploitive because of the money game (he literally has a trilogy about the "money game"). That his experience with the medical community from his point of view is that it's just interested in exploiting people for money. Then he looks inwards at his growing fame, how the music industry just exploits artists for the money and whether or not he's also exploiting people with the types of music he creates. Rain, rain, rain, rain, a storm it comes out way Those who rise through distorted lies are poisoning the veins But we like to blame, blame, blame, blame, It's easier to blame but point the mirror at ourselves we're all part of this old money game...
answer to your statement about the meds 1 he was being seen by UK doctors so profit doesnt come into it, 2 they were misdiagnosing him for years and actually feeding him wrong medications that made him worse
glad you addressed covid as a large dent in the trust in the medical profession, the fact everyone pretends to have forgotten is a large source of distrust for me.
His kind of people also gave Ren a free stem cell transplant, which he credits with giving him back the ability to make music and beginning his recovery. The vast majority of doctors genuinely try. Illness is vast and complicated.
I don't blame him.. i spent 6 years with misdiagnosis and useless prescriptions because no one wanted to spend enough to time to discover the real problem.. endless antibiotics and proclaiming i had pertusis, pneumonia.. or just residual fluid on the lung from a cold.. One day leaving the hospital with the predictable pertusis diagnosis and an antibiotic, the emergency doctor called me back.. and sent me to get a cat scan. 30 minutes later he found a blood clot on my lungs so large he was amazed i was walking around. If it's not working don't settle. you are your own advocate and your life depends on it.
Aye, as you say, the trauma response etc is real. I bet the psychological problems he suffered because of the physical things he went through and the miss diagnosis, I'm sure that just added to the muddle of misdiagnosis even worse, as by that time these had become actual problems too ❤ from Northeast England ❤️
As someone that has had mental health issues and much time in psyche units and the AZ state hospital, I don't see why people think Ren has a psychiatric diagnosis? He's a successful musician, an artist, a very original one at that. But this whole psyche drama is just that, a drama. Ren's so called psychosis was a misdiagnosis because of his undetected Lyme disease. I've watched his videos and interviews, I see a very high functioning, smart and caring man, not at all crazy.
Having mental illness does not have to mean low functioning. Plenty of other artists have said that their music is inspired by their mental health struggles, I don't see why a diagnosis and musical success have to be mutually exclusive.
@@Therapy2Day Agreed. That was not my point. I've had far more serious issues than Ren. My point is that his psychosis was related to the undiagnosed Lyme disease. Drs. thought he was imagining all the symptoms. Nowhere has he state that he has ongoing mental health problems, he talks about it in the past. In fact, I am high functioning, I am a published author and journalist.
@@CraigAnderson-h2h it's definitely shed a spotlight on how the physical and mental interact, and I hope that mental health symptoms start being considered in conjunction with physical concerns as well
Great reaction, thank you!! And you are correct in thinking many of us feel jilted with the medical system post pandemic. Especially when it becomes politicised.
Sooooo I watched a reaction from a therapist in the UK…. Absolutely different take, it’s US healthcare vs UK…… he never once mentioned profit, never showed that REN was getting anything positive from the therapist. He actually reflected on “is this how I handle patients”. I know it’s a matter of perspective, but I can definitely see you “siding” with the therapist and from what I see, REN has nothing positive to show about this therapist. It’s Wham Bam Thank you maam, you’re sick now I need to get you out of here so I can see another sick one.
@@Stuffandthings-ee5dx I'm becoming more aware as I'm reading comments how uk and us healthcare work differently. I try not to focus on just moving clients through for the sake of making money (but if they can get through therapy quickly to move on with their lives, by all means). What makes you think that I would be more assembly-line focused?
Ren doesnt Hate doctors! Like most of us... we Dont trust them based on 5 minute talks where they dont listen! Ya lost me when ya didnt watch his 8 chapters... showing me you didbRen just for likes! The same ones Ren talks about here! Ya couldve grown both channel wise and professionally... but... ya didnt listen!
Yes, there is bitterness about the medical profession/system latching onto the easiest symptom and not looking further. You said this on the form so I will prescribe XYZ and have missing choices on the from. A one page form to decide the patient is cycling bi-polar. I used 'is' for a reason. I am not just talking about doctors where you have x amount of time with a patient. It is the pharmaceutical companies and the lack of research. Frustration with the lack of so many things in health care. As you know, that has not stopped Ren from seeking medical help.
Sure, over medication has become a problem for many people, as well as an overly simplistic understanding of their symptoms. I hope there's more education about how differently mental illnesses show up and can look in people
In my experience, there is a difference between psychiatrists and therapists. Psychiatrists are the chemists who try to diagnose and level me out where the therapists are there for long haul recovery/ learning to live with ourselves
Yeah absolutely. A helpful explanation I heard once is that the medication can help to stabilize things, but counseling is about helping the growth process once things are settled. Not always the case, and I don't want to downplay how important medication is for some people
@@Therapy2Day Lyme disease causing neurological symptoms. If all phycologists test their patients for lyme disease. And other Borrelia and Spirachetal Rickettsial infections. And treat their patients with long term anti biotics. Stem cell . Anti microbial herbs. Refer to a LLMD. I think at least75 percent of patients will recover100 percent. The psyc meds is just managing symptoms . But not actually looking for the underlying cause.
I love how you paused before the end of the verse so you don't get the whole message. Then you comment without the complete thought. Or maybe your pre-read the lyrics. but it doesn't appear that way.
He said he read the lyrics before hand to understand. Also he did watch it a while back but paid more attention this time for his reaction. I don't blame him, see it once and not wanting to give wrong info because you mis heard something.
Look if I have an idea, I'm gonna pause the video to talk about it before something else pops up and I lose my first thought. It happens, everyone can do reactions a little differently, and my style may just not be for you 🤷♂️ Hope you can appreciate, especially if you're a fan of Ren's, that there's a lot packed into each second of content, so waiting til the end of each verse may not be conducive to getting all I can out of it
What part of this song stood out to you the most?
The fact that no matter how bad you feel, humans we tend to present our best face when meeting someone, the smaltalk, etc.
Sorry for the edit, english is not my first language, so autocorrect often changes my words to spanish 😅
@@mariajoseurizar5093 that was something that really struck me as well
The first line of the second verse. "I feel like it's not me, it's the world that's sick!"
It is important to keep his exact context in mind. Although she may be accurately describing the trauma response, the underlying assumption was wrong. He was suffering due to a physical illness, Lyme Disease. He unfortunately went through years of misdiagnoses of mental illnesses where he was repeatedly told it was all in his head.
Hope I adequately addressed the fact that though my knowledge as a professional is accurate that I still need to make sure the info applies in the case of each client
If your invested in Ren, his alternate channel renmakesstuff has 8 Chapters describing his journey.
@@Therapy2Day I see, you don't truly care what the truth of his story is. Ironic.
❤Falling through the cracks is easy, finally starting to rebuild trust in the medical industry after countless experiences that many times left me worse than when i built up the courage to ask for help. Ren is a big building block in that foundation. Even though everything he has been through, he is using his music to fight for a better tomorrow and not an outlet to bash on the past.
It's definitely hard when you've been burned. I hope he continues to be an encouragement in your journey
I'm in the same boat. Ren encouraged me to stop giving up after gross negligence in the medical industry(one resulting in complete kidney failure and rhabdo). I've fired my doctors and moving on to the next. Medicaid doesn't provide the quality of Dr a disabled person needs(physically and mentally). The system and lack of care has ruined my life for the past 15 yrs. It's not how I FELT about the industry, it's how it IS. Naivety towards this issue keeps us in the shackles. 💜💜💜
I’m so glad I catched this early, please some suggestions to follow this one:
-Depression
-Insomnia
-Hold on
-Pocket full of pain
-Genesis
-Seven sins
Thanks, some of those are definitely on my shortlist. Idk if I'll react to all of them, but some certainly
Ren explained in the missing "Chapters" 1-8. If he didn't fight for his own solutions of what was actually wrong with him and listened to the doctors he was positive he would of been sectioned/put into a mental facility and fed drugs he didn't even need. It would of exasperated his physical condition likely not finding out it was Lyme disease.
Unfortunately, it often takes a lot of advocacy by the patient. I hope we move towards a more collaborative model sooner rather than later
@@Therapy2Day Great point and many people in all professions will tell you that nobody cares more about your own well-being than you and maybe your significant other. 😊
@@kellyt5341 that's true. I encourage my clients to speak up if something we're working on or trying is not helpful or not working for them
I've always interpreted the sudden shift in the 2nd verse as Ren saying "I'm not mentally ill, I'm trying to come to terms with how screwed up the world is and non of it makes sense." Basically, "I'm not the one who is off here. The world is off."
Makes sense to me
I see someone else has mentioned Ren's Chapters where he bares his soul and even goes back to a place where he did not really want to go, in order to open the door to some issues around the medical profession and the pain that he has gone through.
I would encourage any "Therapist," whether practicing or studying, to at least watch Chapter 6 found on RenMakesStuff. These Chapters are Ren's personal story leading up to the release of his latest music video "Troubles." No I don't believe he hates doctors and/or therapists. He does not have a bone of hate in him. He just wants them to do better. That message is very clear.
Why "therapist?" 😂 Yes I do plan to watch his chapters, it just seems like a big undertaking
The pig is lovingly referred to as "PigBae" in the renegade community 😂💜
O lol 😂
I have somehow missed that. But did the name come before or after we found out that Vik is most often the one underneath the mask? 😂
@@Shiroarthe name came from the competition that was part of the promotion for Money Game pt 3 and for his album ”Sick Boi”
Somehow this doesn't surprise me
@sorenm.lairdsorries7547 ah I hadn't watched the saw movies, so that's helpful to know
Ren said in an interview with Zack Sang Show
The pig is a bit like the rabbit character in the Donnie Darko film
I think the way profit drives treatment is what stands out to me the most
I dont think it works well in a medical setting
Also Ren pretty much researched his own path to diagnosis
He was desperate to get back to his life which is music
Some of the professionals told him its all in your head get a hobby
If you watch his Chapters 1 to 8 he speaks about this.
It's a tough balance between needing to make a living (plus for many doctors paying off loans) and prioritizing patient care. I hope we find a model that balances both better in the future
@@Therapy2Day it shouldn't be a tough balance. Patient care should always be top priority. A Doctor's loans and living is their problem, not the patients.
It's a systemic problem, where everyone suffers except the shareholders.
@@serendipitish I hope that medical providers can have their own priorities separate from the business people
The riff - loud, sudden, immediate; nearly drowning out the medical professional - very unsettling. Add the unstable table filled with coping - coffee, cigs, drugs - and the children's song seeking a way out. Yeah... hits hard.
Like everything is on a shaky foundation?
Also, jest a side comment, you can see how much he *really* appreciates doctors at the end of his latest "Troubles"
@@Therapy2Day Partly that; the misdiagnosis, the inappropriate medication, confidently presenting forlorn hope treatments. Primarily, though, the discord and dissonance between the unique individual illness and the institutionalized, formulaic response. I'm only talking about the what I hear in the music, btw. Not even going to comment on this old veteran's opinion of health care :-P
@@rolokipp2113 Feeling obliged to 🤐 your opinion. Fingers will cramp up trying to explain the "experience". 😔
I think it’s always important to remember that Ren isn’t against medication or all health professionals, but he is very much against doctors or therapists who don’t listen to their patients or really try to figure out the underlying cause but instead just prescribe pills. He got misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder after a one page questionnaire and met a lot of doctors who treated him like a hypochondriac. Also my guess is that the words by the female character here is things he has literally been told when it’s a female voice and when she is lip syncing to his voice it is an interpretation of the way he was treated, as (hopefully) no one would actually say those words outright and with that attitude. I understand that resources don’t always allow health care professionals to devote as much time to each patient as they might want to, but still. As Ren says in his 1 mil subscribers video, it is the duty of the medical industry to do better so less people fall through the cracks. Hopefully songs like this and Troubles as well as the 8 chapters telling his story will help push for change.
For more Ren, I highly recommend Crutch feat. Bibi, Chalk Outlines (live) with Chinchilla, Seven Sins, and Lost All Faith. Just to name a few 😅
Anyway thank you for being aware that patients might not always show how they’re actually feeling and that you might need to dig a little deeper. I have definitely had times seeing psychiatrists or psychologists where it becomes difficult to open up because they say something like “you look like you’re doing well today” when I enter the room with a smile on my face even if that’s just how I greet people. I guess it can be problematic to be too friendly…
Yes absolutely, this video needs to be a reminder for medical professionals to collaborate with clients, because we aren't the ones living their lives.
And also, yes, I try not to assume how someone is doing and let them tell me. If something doesn't seem to match, however, I may bring up that they were looking smiley but are saying they are doing terribly, and let them explain the apparent contradiction. I try not to assume.
@@Therapy2DayI've seen someone comment before about how once something gets stated in your medical file, everyone who looks at it after, takes it as fact and doesn't question it. I can't believe it took so long for someone to realize that Ren wasn't bipolar. I was lucky, I think, in that once my previous doctor retired, my new doctor actually listened to what I was saying and didn't rely on the other doctor's assumptions and I was finally able to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia after complaining about my pain for years. I think the younger doctors must be learning something differently and are more empathetic with their patients. During COVID anytime I had an appointment she was sure to ask how I was doing mentally as well which I found really surprising.
Thoughtful reaction thank you. I'm here commenting on most of the reactions to this song as I can right now particularly because Ren is having some copyright issues (not of his fault) with one of the beats he purchased and the video has been taken down and they're greedily trying to claim upto 100% of the royalties for his whole track "Industry is cutthroat" - oh the irony. I just wanted to bring awareness on his behalf
#FreeSickBoi #SaveSickBoi
@@Veeliscious I saw his post on his community tab. It's really a problem that people who "own" these tracks will try to get their money any way.
Awesome that he is reaching professionals and giving them a genuine insight of how it feels to go through these problems with our health care providers. Personally I have to choose between dealing with my physical pain and extreme Meniere's dizziness, because they will not allow me to have pain meds. No two class 1 drugs in my area. Combination of neck and back injuries that caused permanent nerve damage. I chose to counter the dizziness, because struggling with level 8 pain is better than laying on the floor puking for hours on end every other day is harder than trying to walk across the room. Both cause depression. It's a messed up system for sure
Wow thanks for sharing your story. It's such a challenging place to be when you have to choose which symptoms you'll try to deal with
My thoughts are that the connection he's making between the two narratives in the track is that it's all exploitive because of the money game (he literally has a trilogy about the "money game"). That his experience with the medical community from his point of view is that it's just interested in exploiting people for money. Then he looks inwards at his growing fame, how the music industry just exploits artists for the money and whether or not he's also exploiting people with the types of music he creates.
Rain, rain, rain, rain, a storm it comes out way
Those who rise through distorted lies
are poisoning the veins
But we like to
blame, blame, blame, blame, It's easier to blame
but point the mirror at ourselves
we're all part of this old money game...
That's a fascinating connection
I recommend listening to Rens (self bio), Chapters 1-8. It will give alot of insight into his music. Enjoy.
Thanks
answer to your statement about the meds 1 he was being seen by UK doctors so profit doesnt come into it, 2 they were misdiagnosing him for years and actually feeding him wrong medications that made him worse
Ah that's helpful to know. Thanks for helping me see beyond just the way the medical system works here in the states.
glad you addressed covid as a large dent in the trust in the medical profession, the fact everyone pretends to have forgotten is a large source of distrust for me.
Yeah I hope that's not forgotten soon. Trust needs to be earned back
I absolutely love and appreciate your reactions!
Thank you! Glad you're watching
Fight Flight or Freeze! ❤
Well, from what I understand, your people kinda messed up the majority of his life.
Any comment that starts with "your people" instantly makes me nervous 😂
Commenter’s “people” are internet trolls.
@@goobydoot 😂
His kind of people also gave Ren a free stem cell transplant, which he credits with giving him back the ability to make music and beginning his recovery. The vast majority of doctors genuinely try. Illness is vast and complicated.
@@yonahgrossman7319 🤷♂️
I never actually through about it this was, that the part when she’s talking HIS word, may actually be “his words”
Interesting 🤔
I did not know of Professor Pyg 🐷. Great reaction as well ❤
Thanks for watching!
Your lack of ego is always refreshing ❤
That's so kind of you to say! I hope that can stay consistent as I continue to make content for you all
Hmmm other Ren videos? There's no Ren Playlist.
Yeah not a unique playlist, it's all under my reaction videos playlist
This is about lyme disease . And the doctors failures.
I thought I talked about some of that. Of course, as a therapist, the mental health component of his disease would stand out more to me
love the reaction try chalk outlines live, fred again, or suiside all really good
Thanks for the tip!
I don't blame him.. i spent 6 years with misdiagnosis and useless prescriptions because no one wanted to spend enough to time to discover the real problem.. endless antibiotics and proclaiming i had pertusis, pneumonia.. or just residual fluid on the lung from a cold.. One day leaving the hospital with the predictable pertusis diagnosis and an antibiotic, the emergency doctor called me back.. and sent me to get a cat scan. 30 minutes later he found a blood clot on my lungs so large he was amazed i was walking around. If it's not working don't settle. you are your own advocate and your life depends on it.
Aye, as you say, the trauma response etc is real. I bet the psychological problems he suffered because of the physical things he went through and the miss diagnosis, I'm sure that just added to the muddle of misdiagnosis even worse, as by that time these had become actual problems too
❤ from Northeast England ❤️
Yeah absolutely the physical and mental are not separate things, but feed off of each other
@@Therapy2DayIt's crazy to me that he basically diagnosed what caused his psychosis himself.
As someone that has had mental health issues and much time in psyche units and the AZ state hospital, I don't see why people think Ren has a psychiatric diagnosis? He's a successful musician, an artist, a very original one at that. But this whole psyche drama is just that, a drama. Ren's so called psychosis was a misdiagnosis because of his undetected Lyme disease. I've watched his videos and interviews, I see a very high functioning, smart and caring man, not at all crazy.
Having mental illness does not have to mean low functioning. Plenty of other artists have said that their music is inspired by their mental health struggles, I don't see why a diagnosis and musical success have to be mutually exclusive.
@@Therapy2Day Agreed. That was not my point. I've had far more serious issues than Ren. My point is that his psychosis was related to the undiagnosed Lyme disease. Drs. thought he was imagining all the symptoms. Nowhere has he state that he has ongoing mental health problems, he talks about it in the past. In fact, I am high functioning, I am a published author and journalist.
@@CraigAnderson-h2h it's definitely shed a spotlight on how the physical and mental interact, and I hope that mental health symptoms start being considered in conjunction with physical concerns as well
Love your insights. Thanks for a great reaction.
You're welcome, thank you for watching
Great reaction, thank you!! And you are correct in thinking many of us feel jilted with the medical system post pandemic. Especially when it becomes politicised.
Appreciate you watching!
Fire
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Sooooo I watched a reaction from a therapist in the UK…. Absolutely different take, it’s US healthcare vs UK…… he never once mentioned profit, never showed that REN was getting anything positive from the therapist. He actually reflected on “is this how I handle patients”.
I know it’s a matter of perspective, but I can definitely see you “siding” with the therapist and from what I see, REN has nothing positive to show about this therapist. It’s Wham Bam Thank you maam, you’re sick now I need to get you out of here so I can see another sick one.
@@Stuffandthings-ee5dx I'm becoming more aware as I'm reading comments how uk and us healthcare work differently.
I try not to focus on just moving clients through for the sake of making money (but if they can get through therapy quickly to move on with their lives, by all means). What makes you think that I would be more assembly-line focused?
Ren doesnt Hate doctors! Like most of us... we Dont trust them based on 5 minute talks where they dont listen!
Ya lost me when ya didnt watch his 8 chapters... showing me you didbRen just for likes!
The same ones Ren talks about here!
Ya couldve grown both channel wise and professionally... but... ya didnt listen!
How do you know I didn't watch the chapters?
Yes, there is bitterness about the medical profession/system latching onto the easiest symptom and not looking further. You said this on the form so I will prescribe XYZ and have missing choices on the from. A one page form to decide the patient is cycling bi-polar. I used 'is' for a reason.
I am not just talking about doctors where you have x amount of time with a patient. It is the pharmaceutical companies and the lack of research. Frustration with the lack of so many things in health care. As you know, that has not stopped Ren from seeking medical help.
Sure, over medication has become a problem for many people, as well as an overly simplistic understanding of their symptoms. I hope there's more education about how differently mental illnesses show up and can look in people
In my experience, there is a difference between psychiatrists and therapists.
Psychiatrists are the chemists who try to diagnose and level me out where the therapists are there for long haul recovery/ learning to live with ourselves
Yeah absolutely. A helpful explanation I heard once is that the medication can help to stabilize things, but counseling is about helping the growth process once things are settled. Not always the case, and I don't want to downplay how important medication is for some people
You missed the point .
I think his music is multilayered enough to have multiple interpretations and significance for different people
@@Therapy2Day Lyme disease causing neurological symptoms. If all phycologists test their patients for lyme disease. And other Borrelia and Spirachetal Rickettsial infections. And treat their patients with long term anti biotics. Stem cell . Anti microbial herbs. Refer to a LLMD. I think at least75 percent of patients will recover100 percent. The psyc meds is just managing symptoms . But not actually looking for the underlying cause.
I love how you paused before the end of the verse so you don't get the whole message. Then you comment without the complete thought. Or maybe your pre-read the lyrics. but it doesn't appear that way.
He said he read the lyrics before hand to understand. Also he did watch it a while back but paid more attention this time for his reaction. I don't blame him, see it once and not wanting to give wrong info because you mis heard something.
Look if I have an idea, I'm gonna pause the video to talk about it before something else pops up and I lose my first thought. It happens, everyone can do reactions a little differently, and my style may just not be for you 🤷♂️
Hope you can appreciate, especially if you're a fan of Ren's, that there's a lot packed into each second of content, so waiting til the end of each verse may not be conducive to getting all I can out of it