People failed to remember something that has happened immediately after the race in Abu Dhabi. When the press conference was happening, Lewis approached Max and had a light-hearted conversation together. Showing that the respect they once had, was still very much present and visible. Sadly this moment didn't get recorded, and is only known to the people who were there. I think the relationship between these two great drivers will stabilize again. Red Bull and Mercedes should both be ashamed for creating this high amount of drama, when most likely the true situation is a lot better than people may think.
@@madhavisingh9046 probably pre race or before the podium, since Lewis was advised by Mercedes lawyers to not show up to the press con, pending the appeal decision
@@kabirsharma2858 As if someone would still attend the award ceremony and follow everyone on instagram as it was... Oh wait, neither of those happened, did they?
I feel like everyone wanted these two to hate each other to spice up the season but the truth is, they had a rivalry not a hatred. They knew that they had fight hard and exploit every single shot. So it’s natural that they had heated moments but now that it’s over, they can resume their normal lives and online media could focus on the upcoming season.
I agree. But fuck me, the media overblown and the unknowledgeable fan reaction make this rivalry even more toxic. I love the fact that Max won his first WDC or imagining Lewis's record-breaking 8th title before the last race. But now I don't want one of those two guys to win anything just to make media and mindless fan to shut up.
I really hope it the rivalry gets personnel next season. Only because it adds to the excitement. But at the same.time.hve respect for each other as they do.
There is no relationship between them. They just race each other and have no connection at all in their personal life and interests. So there is nothing to repair. They are just rivals in a sport.
to be fair, it's been fairly respectful and amicable between Max and Lewis, it's just been dramatic from their teams and toxic from the respective "fans"
Nico and Lewis was also special because they shared the garage, if you are always with your biggest rival its different, here both were clear number 1 drivers at their teams so had full support, while in case of Nico and Lewis it wasnt like that.
Alonso has said that Lewis has isolated himself from the other drivers for a while now, maybe 5 or 6 years, and it shows. You ALWAYS see banter and good laughts among the drivers on the grid, but almost never involving lewis.
@@essasito1919 There are unsolved issues regarding the last race, however, errors in how the race was called can not be made undone. This channel tries to be as neutral as can be and a gingery approach is advised to please everybody.
Max has been asked about his relationship with Lewis many times, in both Dutch and international media, since joining F1 and his answer has always been that they didn't have a relationship other than being on the same track and that they never really talk with each other outside of press moments. That actually hasn't changed this season. It's just that they have been fighting on track more and were therefore in the media. To Max Lewis is competition but otherwise entirely inconsequential to his life.
I believe Max is so well honed by his mentor that even competition does t faze him. True sign of greatness with a massive advantage to him on his road to success. He IS the ONE and ONLY TRUE PRODIGY of F1. I sincerely doubt another hereditary combination of this magnitude and concerted effort will ever be witnessed in F1, unless AI interferes and create a clone.
Just an observation but both times Lewis has been challenged for a championship. It's turned into a shit show! The 2016 fight will Nico was not that far removed from that of this year
@@Daniboi971 😂😂😂 He showed his "true colours" by congratulating Verstappen after the race, and Verstappen must have showed his true colours after storming off the podium in Jeddah using your logic. Rosberg was the one that showed his true colours under pressure (Using restricted engine modes in 2014 Bahrain, 2014 Monaco qualifying, 2014 Spa, throwing the cap at Hamilton after the 2015 US GP, 2016 Austria) Take your blind hate somewhere else.
@@pantrofl 2007 was more about Alonso having a meltdown, where he faced competition from a teammate for the first (and last) time in his career. Before people repeat the McLaren favoured Alonso BS, No team would favour a rookie over the reigning world champion. This was clear when Hamilton was told to hold position at Monaco or when Ron Dennis admitted that he favoured Alonso over Hamilton in Australia in the pits which allowed Alonso to jump Hamilton, and that's not mentioning how Hamilton was always given heavier fuel loads in qualifying upto Canada. The FIA investigated Mclaren for the use of team orders and Dennis realised that the the best course of action was to give Hamilton equal treatment since Canada onwards. Alonso couldn't handle it and decided to blackmail McLaren.
What you guys forgot to look at in your analysis is the effect of the toxicity between both team bosses (Toto & Christian). During the course of the season, this added a lot of fuel to both teams management behaviour - on and of the track - and towards fans of both drivers and teams. It didn't help either that the SkyF1 team were very keen to highlight this, adding more fuel to the toxicity on social media between both fan bases.
Spot on. Leaders are responsible for creating culture for their team above all else. Toto and Christian both did a horrible job this year. My 4 and 6 year old have deeper emotional intelligence and conflict resolution skills.
@@nerdybuildingdudes yes but they have to live together and you supervise them, I hope! Toto and Christian don't and only have their upbringing, the FIA and public opinion to regulate their behaviour, neither of which read Dr Spock apparently.
Hamilton says his relationship with the Red Bull driver is “no different” to last year. Asked about his relationship with his title rival, Hamilton told the media in Austin: “Not a huge amount to say. “There is limited communication, I think maybe some of the drivers hang more than others do. “I wouldn’t say I particularly hang closely with anyone particularly here. “Last year we would see each other at the track and we would say hi, we do the same this year. “It’s no different for me, personally.”
When i first started watching F1, i liked Hamilton. He seemed like a genuine guy who was also very fast. But over the years, you start to notice the shrewdness behind it all. He knows what he is saying and doing and plays parts very well. I still like him as a driver, but i do not believe he is the honest, innocent person he seems from the outside. That seems like a calculated and well played persona for the media.
Agreed. He loves to come off as some sophisticated, enlightened sort of person, but really he's just another super rich, elite athlete with a big ego. At the British this year, the camera panned around while Bottas was being interviewed (i think after quali) and Lewis couldn't give a shit that his team mate was supposed to be the focus. He (Lewis) was over by the track side fence trying to get the fans all wound up waving at them and such. Totally taking the focus off his own team mate being interviewed for television. EGO!!
I myself thought he was a great guy.. but subsequently his true colors came through. I believe this to be when his father was no longer important to be around.
@@Windband1 - So you're saying that the camera had to pan around to even find Lewis. He let Valtteri take the limelight in the interview. That's not ego. Everyone in the entertainment industry knows that they need to give their fans what they want - especially autographs. The fans are the foundation of the industry. If you really *want* to hate Lewis, I can't stop you. I'm just a neutral observer who thought it might be good if someone else won the championship for a change.
To be honest, all the drama and quarrelling was mainly between Toto and Christian, which went all season long. Max and Lewis did an admirable job of keeping it cool in the media throughout this year. It was their bosses who behaved poorly and unsportsmanlike, during and after the race and I am still adamant that their bickering and pleads over the radio to Massi at race control, was the main contributing factor to the Abu Dhabi controversy. Communication for campaigning against penalties due to racing incidents should be prohibited from 2022 onwards, especially if we are to have a more competitive field with more wheel-to-wheel battles than usual. Max and Lewis should recover from the events of 2021 over the winter break, after all, elite sportsmen have the mental capability to not let tough moments get into their heads. Max especially, since he is always so focused on the task at hand during a race weekend.
I remember watching Silverstone and seeing the excessive celebrations from Lewis, a lot of people felt it was a bit odd. Lewis obviously no stranger to being over the top, but I don't recall Lewis ever celebrating as exuberant as he did in Silverstone, and I can definitely see why Max and Jos would have an issue with that.
You mean him celebrating in his home country, which needed some positivity after their football team lost the Euro finals? Did you think about? probably didn't
I think Hamilton was a lot more respectful post-race in Abu Dhabi because it was simply easier for him to accept that. He knew that Max didn’t do anything wrong and that it was as out of Max’s hands as it was for himself. He didn’t have anything to blame Max for in Abu Dhabi so that made it a lot easier for him to accept the result.
Nah Lewis just polite,if you understand his sense of values you'll know he might never get over it.It's not a thing he can simply accept it,huge difference between lose and robbery.
It was a lame excuse from Mercedes that Hamilton did not know Max was in hospital while he did his overly enthusiastically and exxagerating celebrating. Everybody knew, even in the stands. I was there, we all knew. The booing of Max at Silverstone was also completely left out of any broadcast, whilst later Dutch fans were blamed for doing so. The overall villainizing of Max by british social and coventional media was shocking to say the least, and Mercedes and Hamilton stirred it up even more, hinting at racial motive’s…….dreadful!!
MV complained about Merc at Silverstone celebrating when he was getting 'checked over' at hospital ...I didn't see Max even look at Hamilton after parking a tyre on his head at Monza. What a hypocrite he is.
Abu Dhabi is just 1 out of 22. If you put the race results in a different order and rank Hungary and Silverstone as the last two races of the season, nobody would talk about AD.
Lewis Hamilton is a consummate gentleman. He has integrity and is not going to hold a grudge or let his emotions cloud his respect for great drivers. Max included.
Max respect Lewis but there is no Love/Hate . But he rates Alonso over Lewis . He said in press conferences that what Alonso achieved on a slower Ferrrai is great and has as much as greatness of clinching title . Which effectively implies that he recognizes Alonso's 2010 & 2012 campaign as Great than Hamilton's victories on Overpowered Mercedes .
@@ananthu8534 Course he rates Alonso over Lewis, Lewis only equalled Alonso as a rookie and overtook him round the outside in their first race as teammates. Later on, Alonso slowed Lewis down to prevent his victory in Hungary 2021 - if you recall, Alonso said "I tried" to Max after the race. Alonso has never forgiven Lewis for 2007 but he's also not equalled Hamilton's record of winning a race every year in F1 - even in the 5th best car of the year...
@@ananthu8534 unironically Hamilton was better than Alonso in 2010 with 3rd best car while ferrari was 2nd best car. In 2012 Hamilton lost something like 150p because of mclaren awful operating and reliability issues
I agree and recognize especially the last past of this video about the Silverstone crash. It had such an impact on Verstappens title chances. That incident alone costed him 32 points vs Hamilton if you take in account Hamilton probably would have finished 2nd. Im dutch and a lot of us used to say: 'revenge for Silverstone!' Seeing Hamilton win after how he hospitalized Verstappen was the low point for the Verstappen fans and was a giant turning point how the battle would continue, gloves off! One race later however Bottas torpedoed both RedBulls at the start thus hurting Verstappens chances even more. The hate vs Mercedes became intenser after that. It's a shame because it could have been a perfect season.
So Max can be agresssive all season and Lewis backs out on two previous occasions. But the one time Lewis doesn't decide to back out (which he is well within his rights to) it causes a collision. Lewis asked if Max was ok during and after the race and was unaware he was in hospital until after. Such a double standard.
@@beanboy3218 that's not the point, the real pain was how Hamilton gained 32 points in the championship. Verstappen going over the line in some cases yes true but it never costed Hamilton dozens of points. Also don't forget Budapest. If Perez would have torpedoed both Mercedessen like that we would never have talked about Abu Dhabi.
Lewis has a good relationship with Seb, Bottas and Ocon. He reached out to Mazepin after the Saudi qualifying incident. He also is older and doesn’t come from the golden spoon background like many drivers.
@@fakename8128 name a driver on the grid without that. To get to even the lower formulas needs a ridiculous amount of money. And unlike most of them he required a fair amount of sacrifice and a lot of luck and skill to get that McLaren sponsorship before his career stalled out in karting because his background was at least somewhat normal
@@fakename8128 I don’t even know how to respond. If you don’t understand the difference between those who have parents with wealth / resources (parents who were racers i.e. Verstappen) and working class path- I can’t help you.
@@fakename8128 You literally have no idea how challenging and all the sacrifices Lewis' father had to make to get Lewis into motorsports. Literally incomparable to anyone else on the grid. Just say you hate Lewis and move on.
@@fakename8128 his dad had 3 jobs and took out a whole mortgage just to ensure that Lewis stays within Karting, where on earth is the privilege in that?
Really glad you've highlighted the crash in Silverstone. All anyone has to do is watch the new documentary on Schumacher and look at the incident in Jerez with Villeneuve that he was disqualified from the entire 1997 season for!!!! and then compare that to the Silverstone incident in which Hamilton only received a 10 second penalty. Instead of a proper judgement we got a MB/Hamilton celebration. The season was never going to be fair again after that. It is a miracle that Verstappen managed to hold on to the Championship he deserved all year long.
@@bigsteppa814 The penalties nowadays are simply way too soft, even in 2015 kimi got 30 seconds in russia for hitting bottas. Nowadays the highest you ever see is 10 seconds or a grid penalty, this just encourages dirtier driving..
I dont know what your talking about, max had substantial lead with 4 races to go and basically lose all the races ...because he was trying crash into hamilton instead beating him ... stop defending his bad driving style..his nickname crashtappen, hes the one that always crashes into ppl
I feel like the start of the hatred was less about the collisions, and more about Lewis’s celebration after the Silverstone GP. Max was NOT happy about that
I still wonder why Jos says that Lewis "put him into the hospital" when he was just at the doctor for the mandatory checks. Seems overly dramatic but I agree that the dutch are pissed off about everything for some reason. I wonder why.
It’s so silly though, at the time it was clear verstappen was ok so why not celebrate the victory, especially after a decent fight back and winning at home. The shit flinging this year has been so toxic from both sides, hope 22’ sees more respectful behaviour both on and off track.
I agree but I think young George will be right there with them. At least it's another driver all be it in Toto's camp. Maybe Haas will have the best car next year 🤷🏼♂️ who knows with the new platform. Worth a bet lol
@@Daniboi971 there equals at the beginning of the season so who ever leads take priority, valteri has spoken about this in previous interviews. At the same time they won't deprive Russell of wins neither. Should be a great rivalry from the get go 👌🏻
@@Daniboi971 They might not want George to get in the way, but I don't think that he will be their 'whipping boy' the way Bottas was. He has his own agenda and is kinda thirsty for wins after being part of the Mercedes AMG team for quite a while now.
you can't have watched that final lap and now a thing about f1 and not realize that was not normal behavior from Masi or any other f1 director... period. it was done for the views and the drama.
Truth be told, Senna became friendly towards Prost after the latter had decided to leave F1 and thus ceased to be a competitor… Prost acknowledges this in the Senna documentary.
Many "press" commentators state that Masi "broke" the rules, thus gifting the win to Max. If F1 wanted rid of Lewis, F1 should have let him have his 8th championship. Then he would have retired quietly. Now there will be endless controvosy. It serves F1 right!
Mercedes and the British medias agenda against max went too far. Tyson fury and Bernie were two of many to call out the witch hunt that was going on. I think Lewis and verstappen kept a reasonable relationship with each other.
So many comments here imply that the way this championship was decided with last second rule changes is okay because “Lewis already has 7” I sincerely hope that you all keep that same energy in seasons to come.
I don't want to be the one constantly bringing up the Silverstone incident, but I have to say it was that moment, I think, that conflict started because at first both trusted the other to race hard but fair and in that moment Hamilton broke the trust. On top of that he celebrated like he is re-establishing the British empire. Meanwhile Max won his home race cleanly and the celebrations were a minimum.
the trust has never been there between max and any other driver, they all respect him as a racer but do not trust him to make a safe move rather throwing it all on the line and dive up the inside
Everybody saw that Verstappen was alright right after the crash. If he gas been hurt and transported immediately to the hospital it's a different story. Red Bull and Verstappen used that opportunity to make Hamilton look bad. How would Hamilton know that Verstappen is in the hospital if the doctors decided afterwards that precautionary checks are needed.
No, that was actually a caveat to what they were saying about resentment. They meant that in other places in the interview, Verstappen senior named Hamilton by his first name (indicating a certain familiarity in the relationship), so the fact that he did not when talking about Silverstone could have been resentful, but it could also have been nothing, because if there was resentment you may not have expected him to use Hamilton's name, and certainly his first name, in other parts of the interview.
I lost all respect for Lewis after Silverstone , he knew what would happen , utter filth . Despite what Lewis fans think the FIA have backed Mercedes all year , and from what I've herd the FIA have already agreed to gift Hamilton the 22 title as a payback of sorts.
Lewis Hamilton is the sorest of losers when it comes to people in "equal" cars and there's a history too. Hamilton's relationship with Nico Rosberg's still hasn't returned to what it was before the 2016 title fight. That started the same too... Nice and complimentary Lewis in the beginning of the season - mid season it was I respect Nico as a competitor Lewis - end of season I can only control my own race Lewis. I don't need to point out the state of Alonso/Hamilton's relationship
Max was definitely better than lewis in race pace but he gets dirty in wheel to wheel racing. I have seen numerous instances this season where if you don't give him space (even if he is divebombing) he will crash into you. He really needs to sort this out, he can't expect other drivers to give him space everytime.
Are we really surprised it got this bad? Hamilton has shown in the past he can't really handle a decent title challenge. Sure, he talks the right talk, but in the end he is at least as selfish as any other driver. Just listen to his openly hostile team radios whenever he feels he is losing out. And Verstappen is a racer who takes a dominant position in any fight. He sets the rules of engagement and stays within the limits he sets, but in doing so he leaves little room for the other driver to step over the limits. This is why Silverstone went so bad. Hamilton felt he was wronged in the sprint race (and the races before that), because he felt that Verstappen had dictated the limits for their fights (which he had done). Hamilton was out of control and he can't handle that. Since he wasn't able to simply take back the control and dictate the rules of engagement himself he decided to not follow the limits that Verstappen laid down. And since Verstappen doesn't allow room for this they collided.
As much as I support Hamilton, as a Brit, it was great to see a proper two-team fight after years of Merc vs Merc. I still think and hope that Lewis will take an eighth title, but it was great to see another team win, despite the controversy. Can you imagine what an anti-climax it would have been to finish such a fantastic battle behind the safety car? Well done to both drivers, who were head and shoulders above the competition, they both deserved it, but it went Max’s way. Great stuff and can’t wait to see which team will emerge top dog with the new cars for next year! 👍👍
I mean yeah we got an amazing season we also got to see the way FIA is working they are focused more on entertainment that rules and regs. The whole season fans were fighting that FIA was erc biased or redbull biased but infact they were always aiming such that both drivers go to abu dhabi on equal points. in jeddah max was driving like a maniac they gave him penalty but that much so he cant go for fastest lap attempt neither he loses position to P3 similar in abu dhabi lewis incident with mazepin would lead to his 10 place grid penalty but they ignored why because they wont get the starting 1-2 start for the title contenders if they do so. same happened in the last lap they couldve restarted with lapped cars in between as they didnt have time but only those lapped cars were allowed to overtake that were between lewis and max so that they can get a final lap action. The point this time max got lucky maybe next time max can lose his title FIA needs to some major changes
@@Roeland666 completely different events, abu dhabi was outright fia changing rules last minute because horner was lobbying Masi over the radio. No f1 fan should want that.
It cracks me up RB and Verstappen getting all high and mighty about Hamilton taking him out while driving like an absolute lunatic the whole season. If Hamilton doesn’t steer completely the wrong direction there’s 10+ torpedo impacts throughout the season. Here’s hoping the stewards can come to a consensus on what’s allowed and rule consistently in 2022.
Verstappen is the hater not Lewis .everything about his driving was hate filled znd deliberate. Red bulls tactics were motivated by hate and inspired hate. Lewis is a 7 time champion hate isn't even in his vocabulary .
i lost all my respect for lewis and merc after they celebrated at silverstone, if max crashed lewis out at zandvoort and celebrated like lewis at silverstone, the british media would have crucified him
British media lol. It’s all about race with them . I’m surprised they don’t attack Toto more because of his race . I guess they’re careful since he is supplying Dorothy with the gayest hot air balloon.
Actually, a real rivalry is what makes sports in general worth watching and memorable. I don't like any sports in which eras are like one big "we are a family, hallelujah" party. If there is a sport I don't like and two rivals hate each other, the sport itself becomes suddenly interesting. Next season will be even potentially better given Hamilton being prepared to virtually kill him. p. s. I know both drivers behave like adults off track all is in the small things.
It is very much 2 opposing personalities. Hamilton has, for a long time, seen himself as the king, untouchable, and all powerful. It’s no secret as to how much he influenced and once controlled formula 1. His behaviour, and unsportsmanlike behaviour this year has soured my opinion of him. I am very much in support of Jeremy Clarksons shots at Hamilton. Max had absolutely shon this year. His personality, attitude, and ability to light heartedly laugh at some things, along with his growing relationship and respect for checo, has left him as a stand out favourite. It is easy to see how he is loved by so many, and why “super max” was such a popular chant 😂
where has hamilton ever thought or said himself to be untouchable or all powerful? Whats unsportsmanlike behavior? What happened to the same energy from the entire redbull camp and Jos and marko slandering hamilton, saying he has no talent etc.? If you want to be upset about a lack of respect, only one side attacked the integrity of the other, and it wasnt mercedes and hamilton
I think for max fans they can’t get pass silverstone and for lewis fans they can’t get pass Abu Dhabi. The drivers may feel different later on but the fans will always argue these 2 points.
Recently Marko was asked if it would be imagineable that Verstappen would ever in his career drive for Mercedes. Marko said: "No, too much has happened this year, especially at Silverstone".
@@xaviersharma707 and cleared of all charges but that doesn't fit your narrative right. Also this has nothing to do with it. I think max his dad who coached max all the way to f1 knows that max doesn't want to go to mercedes after the silverstone events.
@@emiel1206 my narrative? It's widely known he's not a good person. And marko isn't either. Giving any energy to what these old pricks say doesn't do anyone any good, especially the sport itself which could use some less toxicity. If Horner says something like that then yeah I'd give a shit.
This rivalry has been super interesting and intense and will probably continue to be, but I really don’t like all this media speculation about how they feel about each other. Of course they don’t like each other at times, they were fighting for historic wins. But only they know how they feel about each other so it’s a bit pointless just to drum up more controversy to have something to talk about in the off season.
Totally agree, it's not only irrelevant since the season is already over but also inconvenient for the health of the sport. There are certainly other topics to focus on considering how much could the tables turn on 2022. I hope The Race to raise up the bar on their journalism.
It was not even the fact that Lewis knocked Max off at Silverstone that made Max pissed off but the reaction of Lewis after he won Silverstone. Also the disrespectful cheering of the crowd right after the hard crash didn’t help. This caused quite a bit of annoyance not only from Max but also the fans that support Max.
Good video. Silverstone was the flashpoint which made the championship dirty. Max got doubly penalized -- once for no points and then again for a new engine. If the British stewards found Hamilton to be "predominantly at fault" then he should've had a stop-go penalty, effectively being put out of the points just like the car he took out. After that had Hamilton driven a brilliant recovery drive up to 3rd or 4th (which he is very capable of), it'd have been fun to watch and in my opinion, fair. Overall the FIA has to rethink penalties, rules, inconsistent enforcement of the rules, and favouritism (don't forget the hush hush 2019 Ferrari engine deal). So basically all the same issues FIA had in the '80s. Fans will threaten to stop watching and then come back to the sport because even though the new engines sound like a badly souped-up supra, we all love the sport and the thrill of the world's fastest cars going around race tracks designed by Tilke in a procession. It's like the ex I keep taking back despite knowing how toxic she gets.
I think Hamilton needed a harsher penalty for that crash honestly. But I also acknowledged that it is not a simple issue, like a 10 second penalty effectively puts out of contention most cars on the grid, while the mercedes can have a 25 grid place penalty (Brazil GP) and still come out first. Like what I'm trying to say is that one reason penalties didn't work this season is because the RB and Mercs could basically nullify them with pace, this, while it is no fault of the stewards or of the drivers.. begs the question of how can you truly punish them in the future?
@@sergioccs74 My point of view (I may be wrong, it's an opinion) is that any car, be it Mercedes or Haas, that is at fault for ending the race of another car should be put at the back of the grid (or out of points via a stop and go). If the car manages to race back into points or victory, great job. Points well earned. At the end of the day, it's very rare that a driver is 100% at fault for an incident. So the penalty should ensure that it's reasonably difficult for a team to gain points. Though it may not be entirely impossible for a team like Mercedes.
@@sergioccs74 i think they need to do position penalties in serious misconduct, like instead of a 10 second penalty for making max crash, he could have gotten a 2 position penalty and ended 3rd
How about a race disqualification or suspension from the next race? That possibility should get the drivers' attention. Let the punishment fit the crime. Michael Schumacher was disqualified from the entire 1997 championship for one incident described as intentional. Let's see fair play return to the sport, even if it costs your hero dearly.
I don't know what to think of this. All I know is that I started the season very much disliking Hamilton's persona. And even though I'm happy that Max won because I am a RB fan, I like Hamilton a whole lot more now. The way he celebrated his home win felt somewhat wrong to me. But other than that, he has been very gracious and respectful over the whole season, and that is what I want to see in every sports person
Before 2021 I didn't like Hamilton because of how dominant in the sport he was. This season I saw a lot of hate he was receiving and didn't want to be apart of it, so I starting supporting him along with my favourite driver Dani. This season I respect and appreciate him more than any driver on the grid.
When drama queen never get a penalty for 6 seasons no one said a thing. When Max escaped a few incidents without a penalty the whole cry babies started to whine. Love the eQuAlItY and jUsTiCe.
I hope both teams can take a step back in attacking each other and clear rules set limits that are equal for every competitor. I think missing both of that really hurt the very intense titlefight, we didn´t enjoy in many years before.
Lewis doesn’t get along with fans, so how is it expected he get along with other drivers? Did you notice that Lewis didn’t park his car on the grid for post race ceremonies? Didn’t go to FIA award ceremonies? Didn’t participate in the annual “Secret Santa” event? The guy has to have a small blond assistant carry his helmet for him while he avoids talking to fans and everyone else by riding past them on his scooter. There are plenty other instances.
At Silverstone, intentional or not it was clearly Hamilton's fault and he wasn't punished enough. At Monza it was a racing incident, the car bounced off the sausage curb ffs, yet Verstappen got a grid penalty anyway. At Interlagos, this time it was Max' fault, yet the appropriate penalty wouldn't have changed a thing, Ham was always gonna pass him such was the pace difference. At Abu Dhabi first lap turn 6 the stewards made up for their inconsequential mistake at Interlagos... giving the advantage to Ham unfairly,;who was yet again in a rocket ship compared to Red Bull. Then the last safety car incident. If everything before Abu Dhabi was fair(or only the punishment at Silverstone was fair), Max should have entered the last race with a guaranteed champiionship victory if he finished 2nd at the worst. So whatever shenanigans they pulled off in the last 5 laps is only to the stewards and Masi's embarrassment. Max deserved it anyway. So I can totally understand Adrian Newey's feelings even after Max winning the championship. Sincerely, I'm a Seb fan, am neutral to Max and I don't like Lewis' character much(no one can deny his talent).
@wakkydude You cant deny this was a turning point in the championship. Bowling your rival of the track and still winning the race doesnt set a good standard. Why the hell would either of them back down from a fight now that you know the risk/punishment is completely negligable…
[At Silverstone, intentional or not it was clearly Hamilton's fault and he wasn't punished enough. At Monza it was a racing incident] A little bit of honesty would be appreciated. Whenever two parties are to blame and one is more to blame FIA applies the exact same penalty every time. IF the penalty can be given during the race, 5 seconds, if not, next race 3 places on the grid. When ONLY 1 driver is to blame it becomes 10 seconds or more or 5 places or more. From that alone you can work out BOTH were to blame for Silverstone and BOTH were to blame for Monza. For Silverstone it was mainly Lewis, for Monza it was mainly Max. Compare that to the 5 place grid penalty Bottas received for Hungary, he was solely to blame. You could also have read this in FIA decission as they are publicized.
@@endthisnonsense7202 It sets a bad precedent where you can crash your title rival and still win the race to gain 25 points. They could have also deducted points after the race as a possible punishment…. It was no surprise Max’s driving was even more aggressive after silverstone since there is almost no punishment for doing so
@@gistrobaguette7566 [It sets a bad precedent where you can crash your title rival and still win the race to gain 25 points.] As explained, it was not onesided both crashed into each other it was just HAM being a bit more to blame. Apart from that it is not precedent, it is luck. If this crash is repeated a hundred times 90 times both will get a DNF, 4 times VER only, 4 times HAM only and 2 times both can continue the race.
Thanks for doing such good videos. No sensationalism just good fact and opinion. Really enjoy them. Compared to British rugby media you’re such a breath of fresh air.
@@johnpoulter he's got a big mouth and should be the last person to talk about "respect" considering his abusive history. He's a hypocrite that's why he should shut it.
Everything about how they view each other is all because of how big a man Lewis is. To not want to thump him in the head after all the dirty driving Max did makes him the biggest man in racing.
It is the media that wanted Hamilton en Verstappen hate each other, but that will not happend, both drivers has respect for each other and both drivers are excellent. and thanks to both drivers, because this was the most exciting f1 jear in ages.
people think the FIA was "unfair" or "confuse", but, just replace the Abu Dhabi and Silverstone races in the calendar, and take a look at the end result: Verstappen would still win without finishing the race. My point is: all the pains were about what happened as the LAST race, but if it was any other race in the calendar, nobody would still commenting the issue. Hamilton for the first time faced a similar driver and is passing the token to the new generation, that day would arrive no matter what. I never saw a mega great performance from Hamilton, maybe because he always had the best car and the success was at least expected (he even lost to himself in 2016), and in his carreer he was very lucky also (take 2008 as example, where Ferrari was the best car but one of the worst teams, they lost the championship more than Hamilton won that year). In the end Mercedes lost the driver championship because: 1) they were arrogant at the very last laps after Latifi's crash 2) RedBull worked hard to close the gap 3) Verstappen is very good Hamilton complained that Verstappen "brake-checked" him but completely "forgets" about his own tactics to hit the opponent's rear tires with his front wing in high speed corners. (Just take a look on the last years, how many drivers he "picked" like that) RedBull was even one entire engine short because of Silverstone. that being said, I think media inflates to the last consequences every bit of the battle and wants to see "BLOOD" throwing one against the other.
So no mention of the words by Redbull toward Hamilton? No mention of the fact that after Silverstone that Redbull, in effort to continually try and get Hamilton penalized further they created false evidence and presented that to the FIA? No mention of how disrespectful Redbull treated Hamilton on track by using Perez to block Hamilton, while Mercedes never did that with Bottas. The narrative is clearly that Verstappen is the victim despite the fact that around 60% of the incidents on track this year were created and performed by Verstappen's overly aggressive driving.
Can you use a microphone pop filter please, it will stop the "P"s not pop out when you talk. Also try a high pass filter in your audio/video editing software :)
Verstappen should've won the title long before Abu Dhabi anyways. Being that the championship is not like Nascar where the last race determines the champion, every race still counted. If you count the points lost at Baku, Silverstone, and Hungary in which none were the fault of Verstappen but of a blown tire and 2 Mercedes punts. Well, then the season isn't even close. For all the "torpedo" like actions Hamilton fans say, it never hurt Hamilton in the race where he would've scored 0 points or had too much damage to recover.
@@animalcol1bro Mercedes literally launched a protest and everything 40 minutes after the race, you think Lewis had no say in that? What are you even trying so say like you're being so fucking hostile for no reason I'm just making an observation
That's a stretch. You must be an expert in character analysis lol! The Mercedes protest was pure formalities, it's something the team had to do but Toto and Lewis knew F1 will never ever overturn the result.
@@streetgato9697 nah I think if they actually went to FIAs court of appeals with this the FIA would have sided with Merc. The reason why Merc didn't go through with the appeal is because Max did nothing wrong and it would be wrong to take the title from him like that. The FIA is who fucked up.
Lewis is only respectful when he’s winning or in the lead. The moment he isn’t he’s either A) complaining on the radio to his team about a strategy call B) Calling out some illegality to the FIA that allowed him to be in second. C) Calling out the winning driver or team as clearly having the faster car. This is where the Hamilton hate comes from.
Kimi Raikkonen has made a whole career of complaining on the radio but gets praised for it, Alonso complains, people find it funny, Max complains all the time, people find it funny but when Lewis complains when something doesn’t go right, all of sudden he’s a crybaby.
Just for reference Hamilton vs teammates: vs Alonso there was resentment, vs Button there was no love loss, vs Rosberg there was hatred. The only teammate Hamilton got along with was Bottas. Now let’s take Verstappen vs teammates: vs Sainz it was a battle but they are still friends, vs Ricciardo it was a battle but they are still friends, vs Gasley it was lopsided but they are still friends, vs Albon it was lopsided but they are still friends and vs Checo the relationship is fantastic. Does anyone see a pattern here? Maybe Hamilton isn’t the really “great” guy he always presents himself to be🤷🏻. Just sayin
Hamilton only got along with Bottas because he was a wingman unlike the others. The others pushed Hamilton back and didn't oblige to team orders to just "let him through."
Don’t forget it was Alonso kicked off most teams and known attitude problems. The other main factor you are forgetting is that there are 4 World champions Hamilton has had as teammates. To get to that level you fight harder and its different. Its a dog eat dog world out there and its business. Your emphasis is on the wrong syllable and void of context.
Silverstone: Normally i did not even imagined Lewis did this on purpose. But he used the move on several occasions ( Albon, Rosberg) with great succes. Looking at his overly relieved demeanor is even suspicious. i guess he was afraid he went to far and killed someone. The pure emotions when he falsely was told max was fine ( again a team choice, they knew then he was send to hospital) showed his relief and it made him acting over the top. Silverstone was the break in dirty driving and Mercedes did everything they could to put the blame on Max. from then on. It was a very controversial win as a result.
I wouldn't put much thought into the idea that they hate each other. They pushed each other so much all season but I see it being a 2021 season thing. If I had to name an incident that started to turn it downhill, it would be Silverstone and the way Lewis celebrated after the race. It was completely over the top. He celebrated like he'd clinched the championship or won his home race for the first time.
@Henry Healy Really? That's your rationale? So he shouldn't have celebrated winning his how race? Whats the proper way of celebrated? Should have held a sermon? Especially as he wasn't informed max was taken for *PRECAUTIONARY* checks.
@@Bahamuttiamat that's just how racists think. They always have irrational expectations that nobody can meet, so they can have an excuse to express their hatred
Typically, people are either Lewis or Max. What I am is pro F1, and the crazy amazing end to the season, whoever wins-wins, got my 7 year old interested, perhaps for life. It was a good result from my POV :)
Great piece! It bring up a point in Senna-Prost battle, everytime they "hit" each other was at a slow speed corner. Most of the ""touches" in these battles were at mid to low corners... with the execption of one.
The first lap at Silverstone was far more consequential to the outcome of the Championships (both drivers and constructors) than the last lap at Abu Dhabi. Hamilton and Mercedes got 25 unanswered points, RB lost a chassis and had to take an engine penalty.
If you are at fault for a collision that DNFs a competitor (as Hamilton was at Silverstone), you should forfeit all points for that race (or split them with the guy you wrecked). That sort of penalty might encourage these guys to give a little racing space
@@vandalsgarage No, it's called racing. They make mistakes, such as LAT did. But the shit show in the last race tainted the whole sport, it figuratively was the cherry on top of a mad season
I think Silverstone will always be a sore point between them. The incident was a bad one, but I can see a) why it was 10 seconds and not a black flag and b) it was very lucky the incident didn't also put lewis out. The actual incident was basically lewis couldn't make the apex (red bull put a huge effort into proving lewis couldn't make the apex, and it's like, well, we know he couldn't, becouse if he could have, he, err, would have - if red bull proved lewis could've made the apex but chose not to, that'd be something quite different). It was entirly lewis at fault, but, it was a mistake in trying to make a pass, he got level on the way in, max left a car width inside him, there's a slight contact and thats it. He was entitled to go for the move, but he got it wrong, I also ask, if roles were reversed and Max saw that oprtunity, would he go for it? I think Max would. So far, so racing. the 10 seconds feels unjust - it's the circumstances playing out that make it seem so. red flag givers merc the time to fix the car. lewis drives well and recovers 10 seconds easily. had the race carried on and LH retires or is well down the order it's still a sore point for the incident but on one loses their sense of proprtion over it. It's everything after that that's bad, from both sides. Mercedes/Lewis got very very lucky on a number levels and giving it the big un was very bad taste. I get no one told Lewis Max was in the hospital, and i think hed have toned it down if he had been told, but Merceds should've known, should've told him and should've behaved better. The situation isn't helped by Red Bull then mounting a character assassination on Lewis. Everyone knows (well, everyone apart from some corners of twitter) that Max was injured party and Lewis caused the accident. RBR feel it was dangerous and Lewis should've been black flagged - it's an understandable possition to take and had that been it, i think everyone would've understood. But all the comments about integrity and motivation etc etc and hiring silverstone for a day to prove albon in the old red bull couldn't have made the move to try to "prove" lewis should be DQd was over the top. Mercedes then react to than with their own campaigning about Max's driving. Both teams played it up. I don't think they'll ever entrly let silverstone go between them or be best buddies like Rocky and Apollo but as professional colleagues they'll be perfectly fine. I doubt they'll ever be team mates and Lewis will retire soon while Max has some halcion days ahead of him. I don't think Lewis is going to be "F1 circus personality" after he retires.
@Tobias Z While its true Sir lewis didn't make the apex, well how could he? Max squeezed him to the old pit lane, noticed him on the inside and still turned in. Max could've given more space considering the angle but expect Sir lewis to back down. He didnt and they made contact. If Hamilton carried that same stupidity they would've crashed far more times. Monza and brazil being great examples.
@@Bahamuttiamat actually Lewis did try to back out of it. They were side by side going in but then Lewis backed out as his car washed wide because it lost front downforce as Max turned in on him. It wasn't deliberate. Personally I blame the FIA for creating all this chaos. They have been slack in enforcing the rules since the start of the season. Max went off track in Silverstone in the first few corners to defend his lead but because of the 'first lap grace' he got away with it and has been abusing that first-lap-leniency this entire season. Pushing others off track or going off track himself to maintain his advantage. That all said, to me there is a distinct difference between a poor judgment call in the split second of wheel to wheel racing and a deliberate attempt to retire or damage the other car. RBR were dedicated to getting Lewis retrospectively black flagged and submitted fabricated 'evidence' but when the tables are turned, it is just 'hard racing'. If making the apex is the primary criteria for whether a penalty should be awarded, then surely Max should have been punished for multiple instances as well? Think Brazil T4 where there was a deliberate effort NOT to make the apex with contact only avoided by Lewis' actions. Given Max's trajectory at Silverstone, he would likely not have stayed in track limits on the exit either so he also went in hot in an effort not to cede the position. But the reason I bring the racing accident vs deliberate effort into this is because RBR were blaming Lewis for what happened in Saudi when the brake trace showed Max DELIBERATELY braking hard. I rewatched that event from Max's onboard on F1TV and he knew exactly where Lewis was when he decelerated at 2.4Gs. It was a deliberate brake check. The FIA eventually ruled as such. So tell me why was Max not black flagged for that? It does not matter that Max failed in winning the championship there and then. Michael Schumacher tried the same thing in 1997 (after succeeding in 1994) and was stripped of his entire season's points even though Villeneuve won the championship that year. So precedent for penalising malicious driving exists! But now imagine the uproar if they actually followed their own rules this season when they've allowed deviant behaviour from Max for the last few seasons, especially this season. The fact that the entire rest of the grid said they still don't understand what is allowed and what is not makes this an objective point of contention. Many on the grid said they will change their driving if this is allowed. Lando even joked about brake checking only being a 10 s penalty. Remember, the FIA judge the incident, not the consequences. So if you manage to brake check your competitor and he retires from the damage, it should from now on only be a 10 s penalty. And this is what people seem to miss or forget: Abu Dhabi T2 cut by Lewis was him taking evasive action for Max running him wide, but it was the stewards who ruled he didn't have to yield the position. But for some reason, the some of the more trashy Max fans seem to think that the SC blunder was payback on Lewis for T2 even though Lewis was not the one who ruled on the incident! Or for the tyre failure at Baku. Which makes no sense since Lewis had no role there. And this has happened so many times this season. Something goes against your driver, and you get upset with the other driver, seldom with the FIA who created this grey monster of what is acceptable racing. To be honest, the FIA made this season much closer than it likely should have been by the time we got to Abu Dhabi. Rules to the letter needs to be enforced so drivers know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.
Please after 8 years in the fastest car by far, Lewis does not know nor can’t accept losing to a better driver as the Mercedes is the fastest car, Max is the faster driver by far. Luci is still crying not only inside the car now also outside silly Luci get a live narcist. Pay yr taxes in the UK like yr fan boys, don’t act all the time and repeat yourself all the time pr talk talk cha cha cha please no more politics in Sport or kneel if you want at home not for the show its disgusting.Silverstone comes also to mind. Yes Lewis is one of the best drivers on the grid but yeah in the best car gives you not much respect from the F1 fans outside the Brexit area.
You are entitled to your opinions so why do you want to censor others. And if you must comment about taxes then you need to get your facts right. lewis pays taxes in the UK (in the top 5000) to be precise, so does Mercedes AGM as the team is registered in the UK. Lewis as with all other drivers pays taxes in every country they work in.
if it hadn't been for silverstone there would have never been a championship decider maybe this should be considered before saying lewis was robbed same goes for baku and hungary neither of which max was to blame for
So a complete nothingburger, just two people competing for gold as in any other sport. This isn't journalism -- just a compilation of media gossip from throughout the year.
Some felt was a brake test? Don’t you mean the data showed was a brake test? Of all the incidents over the year, that is the one that is absolutely unforgivable. You just cannot do that and if the FIA hadn’t wanted both drivers on even points going to the last race Verstappen would have been disqualified.
That's the problem with the media and their choice of works to soften or straight out excuse max's terrible driving. Were the roles reversed, would they say "arguably". Of course not. Because Scott blame lewis entirely for silverstone, but made provisions for monza. The f1 media is a fucking joke.
If it really was a brake test they would have penalized Max a lot harder. Max was found to be predominantly to blame according to the stewards. The actual problem in my view was the confusion, Max was told to let Lewis pass and hence slowed down to let Lewis by. Lewis on the other hand wasn't told that Max would let him pass so he stayed behind Max and also slowed down while he should have stayed on the racing line and pass Max. The fact that Lewis did not pass Max obviously added to the confusion of Max who was waiting there for Lewis to pass, he did not know that Lewis wasn't told to pass Max.
@@42earthling the data from his car proved it. Yes, there was confusion during that abomination of a “race” but they were going to Abu Dhabi level regardless. That was the FIA’s wish once they saw it was possible. That move had the potential to kill someone on a fast straight into a blind turn and he should have been disqualified, possibly banned from Abu Dhabi too. That would have sent out the right message about safety on track but they cared only about the publicity and the money from a Championship decider.
@@42earthling Maybe you're unaware, but max applied 69 bars of pressure which decelerated his car by 2.5gs. Merely lifting off the throttle is around 1g of deceleration. If letting lewis by was his only intention, they a mere lift would've suffice. As he did in bahrain earlier in the season. He should've been black flagged.
@@Y2Kev5 No it did not proved a brake test, it only showed that Max used his brakes which was also obvious without the data, both have braked in that area and were in 3th gear at the moment when the contact occured.
dutch guy and max fan here . i think theres little to blame hamilton for except the silverstone crash and celebration . hamilton is not friends with anyone on the paddock they say . all the intence sick toxic shit is comin from toto and mercedes . if even dinosaur bernie notices it there must be some truth to it
Hamilton started the season with a win, and from then on the momentum shifted more and more to Verstappen. Before Silverstone Verstappen had a 32 point lead. Something had to give. That's why Hamilton was so siked up to win. He got beaten in the sprint qualifying, that annoyed him. So he was determined to get Verstappen in the race. Verstappen hadn't anticipated such ferocity from Hamilton, and he claimed copse, to lead the race, and it never crossed his mind that Hamilton would try that over ambitious move. It could've cost Hamilton the race, it could've knocked them both out. Unfortunately for Verstappen he ended with a massive impact in the tires, and Hamilton got to get his car fixed. Now here's where the mind games come in. To show he felt he done nothing wrong, Hamilton made a spectacle out of his win. The shots of him with the British flag were very over the top, and it was a way for Hamilton to say, screw you Max, you're not going to humiliate me, I'll do it to you. It had a short effect on Verstappen. He's sitting there with a sore head and body. His vision blurry, seeing his rival celebrating an unfair win. So that changed his perception of Hamilton. In the rest of the season, Toto Wolff has made an arse out of himself so many times, so many contradictions, using a different stand whenever it suited them, that Verstappen vowed never to work for Mercedes. I'm so glad Karma was served, and Verstappen won the title. 😊
After reading your analysis of Silverstone crash, I have no option but to believe that you are a new Auto sports fan. The correct way of wheel to wheel racing at that kinda speed is almost common sense among racing drivers. It was more or less like , Max didn’t fear the consequences of ‘Jink and dive ‘ and Ham made understeer mistake by braking late. FIA favored both drivers almost equally and it was not fair to the other drivers . Penalties they got were almost meaningless and didn’t affect points at all. “Let them race”. was the very comment that symbolizes many different kinds of political and commercial intentions of FIA. Merc and RB are 2 of 3 giants that feed F1. Plus Ham is a British and Max is the most favored driver by the fans. It explains everything. But everyone knew that F1 was dying to see the new champ who will end the boringness of Merc dominance. Ppl love underdog stories.
You're so misguided. How many times did Hamilton give way to Verstappen to avoid a crash? At least 5 or 6 times, then the one time he doesn't give way to Verstappen's aggressive driving, they crash (Silverstone). To me, it shows Verstappen drives over the limit & he doesn't know how to overtake or defend against rivals without causing collisions. Brazil, Imola, Spain, Italy, Abu Dhabi...the list of Verstappen almost causing an accident is endless!
That's not karma. Karma is comeuppance by nature, not with human interference from Masi at Abu Dhabi. Max has been a reckless driver all season who thinks it's his birthright to have other drivers make way for him anytime... which Lewis and other drivers did gave way many times to avoid a crash. Any of those close calls would've ended in unnecessary crashes or worse injuries or death. At Silverstone, Lewis driving in his home turf didn't take the bluff and stood his ground. Max fans cry when the shoe is on the other foot.
@@mcxix2742 Verstappen sees a gap and claims it, leaving no doubt. Thats his style, it's what got him this far in a lesser car. This video was about how the relationship between Verstappen and Hamilton has changed, not to rehash the Mercedes " Verstappen is dangerous" narrative.
It doesn't really matter. What is fact though, is that the FIA gifted the 2021 Championship to Max by intentionally departing from the rules. Therefore the race was not won on the track rather in Race Control.
I think the Lewis - Max relationship should be seen within the Lewis - rest of the field perspective as well. While nobody was and is explicit about it, I perceive an increasing dislike of Lewis within the F1 field. Besides Mercedes having 8 engines on the grid, there is this atmosphere where Mercedes thinks it owns F1. That they, like Ferrari, are entitled to special treatment. Lewis's anti discrimination campain, politicizing the sport with Lewis as moral leader, while being commendable also contributed to this. Toto also just admitted that 'they' (Mercedes and Red Bull) went to far in influencing the Race director. The problem with the self declaration of a moral leadership is that it puts you into a position where every small mistake is put under a magnifying glass.. and in Silverstone I think Lewis/Mercedes misjudged it completely after the race. It was the tipping point where that moral leadership was lost but Mercedes kept at it which ultimately resulted in the radio comments we all heard during the last race.
There we go again. Angels Mercedes/Lewis en bullies Red bull/Verstappen. Watch accident Silverstone and watch the celebrations afterwards. I am not a fan of Max or Lewis but i am a little bit angry every time i watch it.
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People failed to remember something that has happened immediately after the race in Abu Dhabi. When the press conference was happening, Lewis approached Max and had a light-hearted conversation together. Showing that the respect they once had, was still very much present and visible. Sadly this moment didn't get recorded, and is only known to the people who were there.
I think the relationship between these two great drivers will stabilize again. Red Bull and Mercedes should both be ashamed for creating this high amount of drama, when most likely the true situation is a lot better than people may think.
I don't think it was the post race press conference, was it ? Must've been the pre race.
but if it was the other way around, dont think max wouldve congratulated lewis. he would be FUMING
I agree, Toto and Horner did a lot of the screaming.
@@madhavisingh9046 probably pre race or before the podium, since Lewis was advised by Mercedes lawyers to not show up to the press con, pending the appeal decision
@@kabirsharma2858 As if someone would still attend the award ceremony and follow everyone on instagram as it was... Oh wait, neither of those happened, did they?
What makes this rivalry interesting is the completely different personalities. It's a bit like Senna and Prost, but maybe a little more laid-back.
and also media stirring the drama up
Hamilton wants to be seen like Senna constantly playing the victim but he's not a shadow of the man.
@@FishnetChicken Pretty sure Red Bull were the ones that have been playing the victims for most of the season.
@@FishnetChicken are you insane?
@@Lostcanonmedia or maybe grown up Senna and young Senna?
Neither of them have the Prost persona I don’t think..
I feel like everyone wanted these two to hate each other to spice up the season but the truth is, they had a rivalry not a hatred. They knew that they had fight hard and exploit every single shot. So it’s natural that they had heated moments but now that it’s over, they can resume their normal lives and online media could focus on the upcoming season.
I agree. But fuck me, the media overblown and the unknowledgeable fan reaction make this rivalry even more toxic.
I love the fact that Max won his first WDC or imagining Lewis's record-breaking 8th title before the last race. But now I don't want one of those two guys to win anything just to make media and mindless fan to shut up.
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I really hope it the rivalry gets personnel next season. Only because it adds to the excitement. But at the same.time.hve respect for each other as they do.
There is no relationship between them. They just race each other and have no connection at all in their personal life and interests. So there is nothing to repair. They are just rivals in a sport.
Source: trust me bro
Exactly. They don't have to friends or anything like that. They are at work
agree
to be fair, it's been fairly respectful and amicable between Max and Lewis, it's just been dramatic from their teams and toxic from the respective "fans"
Verstappen vs Hamilton fans is the biggest rivalry this season.
I know ,right?
@@Ajmagic123 He did no such thing. Show me the quote. I know what was said and it wasn't that.
@@Firebolt1729 true and thats pretty impressive since the whole horner vs wolff saga
are you kidding me? all Max said and you still think he respected Lewis. lmao
This is nowhere near Lewis-Nico nuclear fallout.
It's more about media trying to spice up these two.
It looks more toxic than its actually are. Rivalry can be heated, but how you portray it can be a problem
Lewis himself prefer rivalry with different team , than within the team .
Nico and Lewis was also special because they shared the garage, if you are always with your biggest rival its different, here both were clear number 1 drivers at their teams so had full support, while in case of Nico and Lewis it wasnt like that.
💯… uhm you know Netflix
Lewis and Nico was actually toxic.
There was at least some respect between Max and Lewis.
Alonso has said that Lewis has isolated himself from the other drivers for a while now, maybe 5 or 6 years, and it shows.
You ALWAYS see banter and good laughts among the drivers on the grid, but almost never involving lewis.
Is this the reason why Lewis was not included in the mystery Santa of the entire grid? Even Kimi was present in the video.
That might say more about the other drivers than Hamilton. It's lonely at the top because and the other drivers might feel inferior in his shadow.
I wouldn't say never but when it happens its rare as fuck
@@richmerch schumi and Senna had good communication with everyone even when they ruled their respective eras... Hamilton situation is different!
Lewis think his shit smell like roses.
cool it, it's over, done and dusted!
This channel has gotten worse and worse.
Hi Otto Who. Happy early new year 2022.
@@essasito1919 There are unsolved issues regarding the last race, however, errors in how the race was called can not be made undone. This channel tries to be as neutral as can be and a gingery approach is advised to please everybody.
@@AOWarwick I think they should stop creating artificial drama
It can’t get any simpler!!!
Max has been asked about his relationship with Lewis many times, in both Dutch and international media, since joining F1 and his answer has always been that they didn't have a relationship other than being on the same track and that they never really talk with each other outside of press moments. That actually hasn't changed this season. It's just that they have been fighting on track more and were therefore in the media. To Max Lewis is competition but otherwise entirely inconsequential to his life.
Tbh, I think the media have overhyped their rivalry.
Sorry, but that last sentence is incorrect imo
I believe Max is so well honed by his mentor that even competition does t faze him. True sign of greatness with a massive advantage to him on his road to success.
He IS the ONE and ONLY TRUE PRODIGY of F1. I sincerely doubt another hereditary combination of this magnitude and concerted effort will ever be witnessed in F1, unless AI interferes and create a clone.
@@fan-tastic2803 your opinion, but facts show otherwise.
Max admitted hating Hamilton.
Just an observation but both times Lewis has been challenged for a championship. It's turned into a shit show! The 2016 fight will Nico was not that far removed from that of this year
It was the same with his teammates (Button and Alonso)
cuz he is a big baby
@@Daniboi971 😂😂😂 He showed his "true colours" by congratulating Verstappen after the race, and Verstappen must have showed his true colours after storming off the podium in Jeddah using your logic. Rosberg was the one that showed his true colours under pressure (Using restricted engine modes in 2014 Bahrain, 2014 Monaco qualifying, 2014 Spa, throwing the cap at Hamilton after the 2015 US GP, 2016 Austria) Take your blind hate somewhere else.
@@pantrofl 2007 was more about Alonso having a meltdown, where he faced competition from a teammate for the first (and last) time in his career. Before people repeat the McLaren favoured Alonso BS, No team would favour a rookie over the reigning world champion. This was clear when Hamilton was told to hold position at Monaco or when Ron Dennis admitted that he favoured Alonso over Hamilton in Australia in the pits which allowed Alonso to jump Hamilton, and that's not mentioning how Hamilton was always given heavier fuel loads in qualifying upto Canada. The FIA investigated Mclaren for the use of team orders and Dennis realised that the the best course of action was to give Hamilton equal treatment since Canada onwards. Alonso couldn't handle it and decided to blackmail McLaren.
Yep. He's a cway baby and can't handle it
What you guys forgot to look at in your analysis is the effect of the toxicity between both team bosses (Toto & Christian). During the course of the season, this added a lot of fuel to both teams management behaviour - on and of the track - and towards fans of both drivers and teams. It didn't help either that the SkyF1 team were very keen to highlight this, adding more fuel to the toxicity on social media between both fan bases.
Spot on. Leaders are responsible for creating culture for their team above all else. Toto and Christian both did a horrible job this year. My 4 and 6 year old have deeper emotional intelligence and conflict resolution skills.
I was looking for that exact comment. I feel like team principals have been the source of much of the problem
@@nerdybuildingdudes yes but they have to live together and you supervise them, I hope! Toto and Christian don't and only have their upbringing, the FIA and public opinion to regulate their behaviour, neither of which read Dr Spock apparently.
Hamilton says his relationship with the Red Bull driver is “no different” to last year.
Asked about his relationship with his title rival, Hamilton told the media in Austin: “Not a huge amount to say.
“There is limited communication, I think maybe some of the drivers hang more than others do.
“I wouldn’t say I particularly hang closely with anyone particularly here.
“Last year we would see each other at the track and we would say hi, we do the same this year.
“It’s no different for me, personally.”
Netflix G-men are suppressing those quotes for DTS
Don't let Netflix see this
@@Firebolt1729 Even if they see it they'll just ignore it
well really, sure seems the same... at least last year lulu was not emotionally affected to miss secret santa lol
@@ebenezerindi1766 nah probably they'll make something out of it we cant expect. Dont underestimate netfllix
When i first started watching F1, i liked Hamilton. He seemed like a genuine guy who was also very fast. But over the years, you start to notice the shrewdness behind it all. He knows what he is saying and doing and plays parts very well. I still like him as a driver, but i do not believe he is the honest, innocent person he seems from the outside. That seems like a calculated and well played persona for the media.
Agreed. He loves to come off as some sophisticated, enlightened sort of person, but really he's just another super rich, elite athlete with a big ego. At the British this year, the camera panned around while Bottas was being interviewed (i think after quali) and Lewis couldn't give a shit that his team mate was supposed to be the focus. He (Lewis) was over by the track side fence trying to get the fans all wound up waving at them and such. Totally taking the focus off his own team mate being interviewed for television. EGO!!
Agreed , same opinion ..Lewis knows how to get and stay in spotlights
His trained facial expression and poses are the worst.
I myself thought he was a great guy.. but subsequently his true colors came through. I believe this to be when his father was no longer important to be around.
@@Windband1 - So you're saying that the camera had to pan around to even find Lewis. He let Valtteri take the limelight in the interview. That's not ego. Everyone in the entertainment industry knows that they need to give their fans what they want - especially autographs. The fans are the foundation of the industry.
If you really *want* to hate Lewis, I can't stop you. I'm just a neutral observer who thought it might be good if someone else won the championship for a change.
To be honest, all the drama and quarrelling was mainly between Toto and Christian, which went all season long. Max and Lewis did an admirable job of keeping it cool in the media throughout this year. It was their bosses who behaved poorly and unsportsmanlike, during and after the race and I am still adamant that their bickering and pleads over the radio to Massi at race control, was the main contributing factor to the Abu Dhabi controversy. Communication for campaigning against penalties due to racing incidents should be prohibited from 2022 onwards, especially if we are to have a more competitive field with more wheel-to-wheel battles than usual.
Max and Lewis should recover from the events of 2021 over the winter break, after all, elite sportsmen have the mental capability to not let tough moments get into their heads. Max especially, since he is always so focused on the task at hand during a race weekend.
I remember watching Silverstone and seeing the excessive celebrations from Lewis, a lot of people felt it was a bit odd. Lewis obviously no stranger to being over the top, but I don't recall Lewis ever celebrating as exuberant as he did in Silverstone, and I can definitely see why Max and Jos would have an issue with that.
Home GP usually excites drivers!
@@Lucky96 hi Anthony. Happy early new year 2022. From Purwanti Allan.
@@Lucky96 Protect the psycho, much.
You mean him celebrating in his home country, which needed some positivity after their football team lost the Euro finals? Did you think about? probably didn't
@@chandamubanga I'm thinking about his direct rival in the hospital and him barely winning a race without any competition left.
I think Hamilton was a lot more respectful post-race in Abu Dhabi because it was simply easier for him to accept that. He knew that Max didn’t do anything wrong and that it was as out of Max’s hands as it was for himself. He didn’t have anything to blame Max for in Abu Dhabi so that made it a lot easier for him to accept the result.
Yeah you are right keep telling yourself that he got a early christmas present from massi
Nah Lewis just polite,if you understand his sense of values you'll know he might never get over it.It's not a thing he can simply accept it,huge difference between lose and robbery.
@@masakisako4274 I think you misunderstood notaiden who was saying that it is easier for Lewis to accept that it was not Max's fault.
Trying to milk this story, aren't we?
Regarding this subject, I'm afraid there are still a lot of cows in line waiting to be milked...
I don't even think the relationship between them changed a lot, just racing each other more on track
Silverstone was the tipping point of the season. I think after that race is when things went sour between the two teams and drivers.
It was a lame excuse from Mercedes that Hamilton did not know Max was in hospital while he did his overly enthusiastically and exxagerating celebrating. Everybody knew, even in the stands. I was there, we all knew.
The booing of Max at Silverstone was also completely left out of any broadcast, whilst later Dutch fans were blamed for doing so.
The overall villainizing of Max by british social and coventional media was shocking to say the least, and Mercedes and Hamilton stirred it up even more, hinting at racial
motive’s…….dreadful!!
MV complained about Merc at Silverstone celebrating when he was getting 'checked over' at hospital ...I didn't see Max even look at Hamilton after parking a tyre on his head at Monza. What a hypocrite he is.
I do not like this kind of ‘journalism’. No one kan know what Hamilton and Verstappen think or feel. Dislike this video
100% agree with you
Abu Dhabi is just 1 out of 22. If you put the race results in a different order and rank Hungary and Silverstone as the last two races of the season, nobody would talk about AD.
Actually they would, because Abu Dhabi impacted more than just the top two drivers. The midfield teams were impacted by Masi's decision as well.
I don’t think this touches nico’s run
Verstappen vs Hamilton fans is the biggest rivalry
@@Firebolt1729 hardly. Lewis barely cares for verstappen compared to Nico
@@supaahflyy Right u cant even compare it IMO
@@Firebolt1729 Yes, so true.
Lewis Hamilton is a consummate gentleman. He has integrity and is not going to hold a grudge or let his emotions cloud his respect for great drivers. Max included.
like when he ran albon off the track stealing the kids first victory?
@@nathantuckfield2199 it wasn't a victory it was a podium n it's not like he was gonna win any championships or anything
@@nathantuckfield2199 oh please. Ran him off the track? Get real.
You must really hate Red Bull then considering how they treated him.
He is nothing but that, all he does is feeling sorry for him self..
@@nathantuckfield2199 he likes red bulls rear tyres
They don't hate each other. That's the "theory" of the media to generate even more drama...
Strange if Max says he does though - never heard those words come from Lewis. He closes up away from F1 and gets on with his own life.
Max never said that, he always said he had lots of respect for Lewis but they are rivals.
Max respect Lewis but there is no Love/Hate .
But he rates Alonso over Lewis . He said in press conferences that what Alonso achieved on a slower Ferrrai is great and has as much as greatness of clinching title .
Which effectively implies that he recognizes Alonso's 2010 & 2012 campaign as Great than Hamilton's victories on Overpowered Mercedes .
@@ananthu8534 Course he rates Alonso over Lewis, Lewis only equalled Alonso as a rookie and overtook him round the outside in their first race as teammates. Later on, Alonso slowed Lewis down to prevent his victory in Hungary 2021 - if you recall, Alonso said "I tried" to Max after the race. Alonso has never forgiven Lewis for 2007 but he's also not equalled Hamilton's record of winning a race every year in F1 - even in the 5th best car of the year...
@@ananthu8534 unironically Hamilton was better than Alonso in 2010 with 3rd best car while ferrari was 2nd best car. In 2012 Hamilton lost something like 150p because of mclaren awful operating and reliability issues
I agree and recognize especially the last past of this video about the Silverstone crash. It had such an impact on Verstappens title chances. That incident alone costed him 32 points vs Hamilton if you take in account Hamilton probably would have finished 2nd.
Im dutch and a lot of us used to say: 'revenge for Silverstone!' Seeing Hamilton win after how he hospitalized Verstappen was the low point for the Verstappen fans and was a giant turning point how the battle would continue, gloves off!
One race later however Bottas torpedoed both RedBulls at the start thus hurting Verstappens chances even more. The hate vs Mercedes became intenser after that. It's a shame because it could have been a perfect season.
@@Daniboi971 I hate F1 fans
So Max can be agresssive all season and Lewis backs out on two previous occasions. But the one time Lewis doesn't decide to back out (which he is well within his rights to) it causes a collision. Lewis asked if Max was ok during and after the race and was unaware he was in hospital until after. Such a double standard.
@@Daniboi971 You Max fans make it seem like he almost died in the hospital
Verstappen talks about hard racing all the time, but when he had some, he whinged and moaned and will continue to do so.
@@beanboy3218 that's not the point, the real pain was how Hamilton gained 32 points in the championship. Verstappen going over the line in some cases yes true but it never costed Hamilton dozens of points. Also don't forget Budapest. If Perez would have torpedoed both Mercedessen like that we would never have talked about Abu Dhabi.
Lewis has a good relationship with Seb, Bottas and Ocon. He reached out to Mazepin after the Saudi qualifying incident. He also is older and doesn’t come from the golden spoon background like many drivers.
@@fakename8128 His father worked a lot to make that happen
@@fakename8128 name a driver on the grid without that. To get to even the lower formulas needs a ridiculous amount of money. And unlike most of them he required a fair amount of sacrifice and a lot of luck and skill to get that McLaren sponsorship before his career stalled out in karting because his background was at least somewhat normal
@@fakename8128 I don’t even know how to respond. If you don’t understand the difference between those who have parents with wealth / resources (parents who were racers i.e. Verstappen) and working class path- I can’t help you.
@@fakename8128 You literally have no idea how challenging and all the sacrifices Lewis' father had to make to get Lewis into motorsports. Literally incomparable to anyone else on the grid. Just say you hate Lewis and move on.
@@fakename8128 his dad had 3 jobs and took out a whole mortgage just to ensure that Lewis stays within Karting, where on earth is the privilege in that?
Really glad you've highlighted the crash in Silverstone. All anyone has to do is watch the new documentary on Schumacher and look at the incident in Jerez with Villeneuve that he was disqualified from the entire 1997 season for!!!! and then compare that to the Silverstone incident in which Hamilton only received a 10 second penalty. Instead of a proper judgement we got a MB/Hamilton celebration. The season was never going to be fair again after that. It is a miracle that Verstappen managed to hold on to the Championship he deserved all year long.
No hate to Verstappen but you wouldn’t be complaining if the ten second time penalty was enough to stop him from winning
@@bigsteppa814 The penalties nowadays are simply way too soft, even in 2015 kimi got 30 seconds in russia for hitting bottas. Nowadays the highest you ever see is 10 seconds or a grid penalty, this just encourages dirtier driving..
@@bigsteppa814 it should have been a 10 sec stop and go penalty. Btw I was pissed when I saw only a 10 second time penalty.
I dont know what your talking about, max had substantial lead with 4 races to go and basically lose all the races ...because he was trying crash into hamilton instead beating him ... stop defending his bad driving style..his nickname crashtappen, hes the one that always crashes into ppl
I do not agree they hate each other because Lewis respect Max for winning the driver world Championship in 2021.
I feel like the start of the hatred was less about the collisions, and more about Lewis’s celebration after the Silverstone GP. Max was NOT happy about that
I still wonder why Jos says that Lewis "put him into the hospital" when he was just at the doctor for the mandatory checks. Seems overly dramatic but I agree that the dutch are pissed off about everything for some reason. I wonder why.
It’s so silly though, at the time it was clear verstappen was ok so why not celebrate the victory, especially after a decent fight back and winning at home. The shit flinging this year has been so toxic from both sides, hope 22’ sees more respectful behaviour both on and off track.
I truly hope that two other teams next season fights for the title. I'm tired of Toto, Christian and Marko's shit-stirring, Max and Lewis.
I agree but I think young George will be right there with them. At least it's another driver all be it in Toto's camp.
Maybe Haas will have the best car next year 🤷🏼♂️ who knows with the new platform. Worth a bet lol
@@Daniboi971 there equals at the beginning of the season so who ever leads take priority, valteri has spoken about this in previous interviews.
At the same time they won't deprive Russell of wins neither.
Should be a great rivalry from the get go 👌🏻
@@Daniboi971 They might not want George to get in the way, but I don't think that he will be their 'whipping boy' the way Bottas was. He has his own agenda and is kinda thirsty for wins after being part of the Mercedes AMG team for quite a while now.
Ferrari , Redbull and Mercedes will be title contenders for 2022 .
I hope Ferrari will get an upper hand
@@1982james111 Lewis won't accept helping George in the race
The Hamilton bias of this channel and comments in general is delicious to watch.
you can't have watched that final lap and now a thing about f1 and not realize that was not normal behavior from Masi or any other f1 director... period. it was done for the views and the drama.
I think you need to retune your ears not one bit is bias to Hamilton, I would say the other way round
hahaha.
Even the biggest Verstappen fan knows that objectively that decision by Masi was not fair.
@@frickin_robin lol you act like the fia is max bias
Just remember the "My dear friend Alain" Senna said in one of his last radios... I Think, in ten years, they can be friends !
Don't...... Make....... Me....... Cry!
Truth be told, Senna became friendly towards Prost after the latter had decided to leave F1 and thus ceased to be a competitor… Prost acknowledges this in the Senna documentary.
Many "press" commentators state that Masi "broke" the rules, thus gifting the win to Max. If F1 wanted rid of Lewis, F1 should have let him have his 8th championship. Then he would have retired quietly. Now there will be endless controvosy. It serves F1 right!
Mercedes and the British medias agenda against max went too far. Tyson fury and Bernie were two of many to call out the witch hunt that was going on. I think Lewis and verstappen kept a reasonable relationship with each other.
So many comments here imply that the way this championship was decided with last second rule changes is okay because “Lewis already has 7” I sincerely hope that you all keep that same energy in seasons to come.
I don't want to be the one constantly bringing up the Silverstone incident, but I have to say it was that moment, I think, that conflict started because at first both trusted the other to race hard but fair and in that moment Hamilton broke the trust. On top of that he celebrated like he is re-establishing the British empire. Meanwhile Max won his home race cleanly and the celebrations were a minimum.
Spain and Imola there was never any trust...
the trust has never been there between max and any other driver, they all respect him as a racer but do not trust him to make a safe move rather throwing it all on the line and dive up the inside
Crashtappen
Max's idea of racing hard is very much arguable tho...
Everybody saw that Verstappen was alright right after the crash. If he gas been hurt and transported immediately to the hospital it's a different story. Red Bull and Verstappen used that opportunity to make Hamilton look bad. How would Hamilton know that Verstappen is in the hospital if the doctors decided afterwards that precautionary checks are needed.
8:25 how does mentioning someone by their first name instead of their last name mean resentment to you?
No, that was actually a caveat to what they were saying about resentment. They meant that in other places in the interview, Verstappen senior named Hamilton by his first name (indicating a certain familiarity in the relationship), so the fact that he did not when talking about Silverstone could have been resentful, but it could also have been nothing, because if there was resentment you may not have expected him to use Hamilton's name, and certainly his first name, in other parts of the interview.
I lost all respect for Lewis after Silverstone , he knew what would happen , utter filth . Despite what Lewis fans think the FIA have backed Mercedes all year , and from what I've herd the FIA have already agreed to gift Hamilton the 22 title as a payback of sorts.
I'm sure that means a lot to Hamilton that Robert VanZant on RUclips doesn't like him.
Lewis Hamilton is the sorest of losers when it comes to people in "equal" cars and there's a history too. Hamilton's relationship with Nico Rosberg's still hasn't returned to what it was before the 2016 title fight. That started the same too... Nice and complimentary Lewis in the beginning of the season - mid season it was I respect Nico as a competitor Lewis - end of season I can only control my own race Lewis. I don't need to point out the state of Alonso/Hamilton's relationship
Max was better all season no doubt he deserved a bit of luck at the end
Exactly
Couldn’t agree more, he had lots of bad luck at silverstone, Baku and Hungary so he deserved some luck by the end
@JJ just like Lewis in Imola and Baku, no ?
Max was definitely better than lewis in race pace but he gets dirty in wheel to wheel racing. I have seen numerous instances this season where if you don't give him space (even if he is divebombing) he will crash into you. He really needs to sort this out, he can't expect other drivers to give him space everytime.
@@madhavisingh9046 max was also impacted at Baku, and at a bunch more GPs than Hamilton.
Are we really surprised it got this bad? Hamilton has shown in the past he can't really handle a decent title challenge. Sure, he talks the right talk, but in the end he is at least as selfish as any other driver. Just listen to his openly hostile team radios whenever he feels he is losing out. And Verstappen is a racer who takes a dominant position in any fight. He sets the rules of engagement and stays within the limits he sets, but in doing so he leaves little room for the other driver to step over the limits. This is why Silverstone went so bad. Hamilton felt he was wronged in the sprint race (and the races before that), because he felt that Verstappen had dictated the limits for their fights (which he had done). Hamilton was out of control and he can't handle that. Since he wasn't able to simply take back the control and dictate the rules of engagement himself he decided to not follow the limits that Verstappen laid down. And since Verstappen doesn't allow room for this they collided.
What utter rubbish....
TLDR: Hamilton tries to play by the rules while Max makes up his own. The moment Hamilton doesn't follow the rules they clash and gets blamed for it.
If Hamilton was as aggressive as Max when they were wheel to wheel I don’t think the pair would have finished half their races
@@richmerch both try to set the rules within the limits the FIA gives them, that is what racing drivers do.
As much as I support Hamilton, as a Brit, it was great to see a proper two-team fight after years of Merc vs Merc. I still think and hope that Lewis will take an eighth title, but it was great to see another team win, despite the controversy. Can you imagine what an anti-climax it would have been to finish such a fantastic battle behind the safety car? Well done to both drivers, who were head and shoulders above the competition, they both deserved it, but it went Max’s way. Great stuff and can’t wait to see which team will emerge top dog with the new cars for next year! 👍👍
Would have been better finishing behind the safety car then the injustice we saw robbing Lewis and Mercedes of their hard work.
I mean yeah we got an amazing season we also got to see the way FIA is working they are focused more on entertainment that rules and regs. The whole season fans were fighting that FIA was erc biased or redbull biased but infact they were always aiming such that both drivers go to abu dhabi on equal points. in jeddah max was driving like a maniac they gave him penalty but that much so he cant go for fastest lap attempt neither he loses position to P3 similar in abu dhabi lewis incident with mazepin would lead to his 10 place grid penalty but they ignored why because they wont get the starting 1-2 start for the title contenders if they do so. same happened in the last lap they couldve restarted with lapped cars in between as they didnt have time but only those lapped cars were allowed to overtake that were between lewis and max so that they can get a final lap action. The point this time max got lucky maybe next time max can lose his title FIA needs to some major changes
@@MFizzle777 copium
@@MFizzle777 like silverstone and hungary never happened, right?
@@Roeland666 completely different events, abu dhabi was outright fia changing rules last minute because horner was lobbying Masi over the radio. No f1 fan should want that.
It cracks me up RB and Verstappen getting all high and mighty about Hamilton taking him out while driving like an absolute lunatic the whole season. If Hamilton doesn’t steer completely the wrong direction there’s 10+ torpedo impacts throughout the season. Here’s hoping the stewards can come to a consensus on what’s allowed and rule consistently in 2022.
Verstappen is the hater not Lewis .everything about his driving was hate filled znd deliberate. Red bulls tactics were motivated by hate and inspired hate. Lewis is a 7 time champion hate isn't even in his vocabulary .
i lost all my respect for lewis and merc after they celebrated at silverstone, if max crashed lewis out at zandvoort and celebrated like lewis at silverstone, the british media would have crucified him
British media lol. It’s all about race with them . I’m surprised they don’t attack Toto more because of his race . I guess they’re careful since he is supplying Dorothy with the gayest hot air balloon.
Actually, a real rivalry is what makes sports in general worth watching and memorable. I don't like any sports in which eras are like one big "we are a family, hallelujah" party. If there is a sport I don't like and two rivals hate each other, the sport itself becomes suddenly interesting.
Next season will be even potentially better given Hamilton being prepared to virtually kill him.
p. s. I know both drivers behave like adults off track all is in the small things.
It is very much 2 opposing personalities. Hamilton has, for a long time, seen himself as the king, untouchable, and all powerful. It’s no secret as to how much he influenced and once controlled formula 1. His behaviour, and unsportsmanlike behaviour this year has soured my opinion of him. I am very much in support of Jeremy Clarksons shots at Hamilton.
Max had absolutely shon this year. His personality, attitude, and ability to light heartedly laugh at some things, along with his growing relationship and respect for checo, has left him as a stand out favourite. It is easy to see how he is loved by so many, and why “super max” was such a popular chant 😂
where has hamilton ever thought or said himself to be untouchable or all powerful? Whats unsportsmanlike behavior? What happened to the same energy from the entire redbull camp and Jos and marko slandering hamilton, saying he has no talent etc.? If you want to be upset about a lack of respect, only one side attacked the integrity of the other, and it wasnt mercedes and hamilton
I think for max fans they can’t get pass silverstone and for lewis fans they can’t get pass Abu Dhabi. The drivers may feel different later on but the fans will always argue these 2 points.
Recently Marko was asked if it would be imagineable that Verstappen would ever in his career drive for Mercedes. Marko said: "No, too much has happened this year, especially at Silverstone".
Seriously man, quoting Marko? You can do better
@@xaviersharma707 Jos has said the same thing though.
@@emiel1206 oh the guy who got booked for attempted murder? Right.
@@xaviersharma707 and cleared of all charges but that doesn't fit your narrative right. Also this has nothing to do with it. I think max his dad who coached max all the way to f1 knows that max doesn't want to go to mercedes after the silverstone events.
@@emiel1206 my narrative? It's widely known he's not a good person. And marko isn't either. Giving any energy to what these old pricks say doesn't do anyone any good, especially the sport itself which could use some less toxicity. If Horner says something like that then yeah I'd give a shit.
Man, how many videos is F1 media going to milk from this drama
This rivalry has been super interesting and intense and will probably continue to be, but I really don’t like all this media speculation about how they feel about each other. Of course they don’t like each other at times, they were fighting for historic wins. But only they know how they feel about each other so it’s a bit pointless just to drum up more controversy to have something to talk about in the off season.
Totally agree, it's not only irrelevant since the season is already over but also inconvenient for the health of the sport. There are certainly other topics to focus on considering how much could the tables turn on 2022. I hope The Race to raise up the bar on their journalism.
lewis should ask Jos for tips on how to beat max, maybe there’s a petrol station lewis can leave him at to get the upper hand
From where I am standing it was not a clear cut win in max favour.
It was not even the fact that Lewis knocked Max off at Silverstone that made Max pissed off but the reaction of Lewis after he won Silverstone. Also the disrespectful cheering of the crowd right after the hard crash didn’t help. This caused quite a bit of annoyance not only from Max but also the fans that support Max.
Good video. Silverstone was the flashpoint which made the championship dirty. Max got doubly penalized -- once for no points and then again for a new engine. If the British stewards found Hamilton to be "predominantly at fault" then he should've had a stop-go penalty, effectively being put out of the points just like the car he took out. After that had Hamilton driven a brilliant recovery drive up to 3rd or 4th (which he is very capable of), it'd have been fun to watch and in my opinion, fair.
Overall the FIA has to rethink penalties, rules, inconsistent enforcement of the rules, and favouritism (don't forget the hush hush 2019 Ferrari engine deal). So basically all the same issues FIA had in the '80s. Fans will threaten to stop watching and then come back to the sport because even though the new engines sound like a badly souped-up supra, we all love the sport and the thrill of the world's fastest cars going around race tracks designed by Tilke in a procession. It's like the ex I keep taking back despite knowing how toxic she gets.
I think Hamilton needed a harsher penalty for that crash honestly. But I also acknowledged that it is not a simple issue, like a 10 second penalty effectively puts out of contention most cars on the grid, while the mercedes can have a 25 grid place penalty (Brazil GP) and still come out first. Like what I'm trying to say is that one reason penalties didn't work this season is because the RB and Mercs could basically nullify them with pace, this, while it is no fault of the stewards or of the drivers.. begs the question of how can you truly punish them in the future?
@@sergioccs74 "More penalties!" Alonso, 2018
@@sergioccs74 My point of view (I may be wrong, it's an opinion) is that any car, be it Mercedes or Haas, that is at fault for ending the race of another car should be put at the back of the grid (or out of points via a stop and go). If the car manages to race back into points or victory, great job. Points well earned. At the end of the day, it's very rare that a driver is 100% at fault for an incident. So the penalty should ensure that it's reasonably difficult for a team to gain points. Though it may not be entirely impossible for a team like Mercedes.
@@sergioccs74 i think they need to do position penalties in serious misconduct, like instead of a 10 second penalty for making max crash, he could have gotten a 2 position penalty and ended 3rd
How about a race disqualification or suspension from the next race? That possibility should get the drivers' attention. Let the punishment fit the crime. Michael Schumacher was disqualified from the entire 1997 championship for one incident described as intentional. Let's see fair play return to the sport, even if it costs your hero dearly.
I don't know what to think of this. All I know is that I started the season very much disliking Hamilton's persona. And even though I'm happy that Max won because I am a RB fan, I like Hamilton a whole lot more now. The way he celebrated his home win felt somewhat wrong to me. But other than that, he has been very gracious and respectful over the whole season, and that is what I want to see in every sports person
Before 2021 I didn't like Hamilton because of how dominant in the sport he was. This season I saw a lot of hate he was receiving and didn't want to be apart of it, so I starting supporting him along with my favourite driver Dani. This season I respect and appreciate him more than any driver on the grid.
Please keep bringing the f1 content for the next couple months
I think that's the plan. They're an F1 channel...
When drama queen never get a penalty for 6 seasons no one said a thing. When Max escaped a few incidents without a penalty the whole cry babies started to whine. Love the eQuAlItY and jUsTiCe.
tell me you just started watching f1 without telling me you just started watching f1
I hope both teams can take a step back in attacking each other and clear rules set limits that are equal for every competitor. I think missing both of that really hurt the very intense titlefight, we didn´t enjoy in many years before.
Lewis doesn’t get along with fans, so how is it expected he get along with other drivers? Did you notice that Lewis didn’t park his car on the grid for post race ceremonies? Didn’t go to FIA award ceremonies? Didn’t participate in the annual “Secret Santa” event? The guy has to have a small blond assistant carry his helmet for him while he avoids talking to fans and everyone else by riding past them on his scooter. There are plenty other instances.
What is this? Netflix?
Off season media really tries to make a story out of anything
At Silverstone, intentional or not it was clearly Hamilton's fault and he wasn't punished enough.
At Monza it was a racing incident, the car bounced off the sausage curb ffs, yet Verstappen got a grid penalty anyway.
At Interlagos, this time it was Max' fault, yet the appropriate penalty wouldn't have changed a thing, Ham was always gonna pass him such was the pace difference.
At Abu Dhabi first lap turn 6 the stewards made up for their inconsequential mistake at Interlagos... giving the advantage to Ham unfairly,;who was yet again in a rocket ship compared to Red Bull.
Then the last safety car incident.
If everything before Abu Dhabi was fair(or only the punishment at Silverstone was fair), Max should have entered the last race with a guaranteed champiionship victory if he finished 2nd at the worst. So whatever shenanigans they pulled off in the last 5 laps is only to the stewards and Masi's embarrassment. Max deserved it anyway.
So I can totally understand Adrian Newey's feelings even after Max winning the championship.
Sincerely,
I'm a Seb fan, am neutral to Max and I don't like Lewis' character much(no one can deny his talent).
That’s what you want to hear and you convinced yourself that… It wasn’t LH’s fault…
@wakkydude You cant deny this was a turning point in the championship. Bowling your rival of the track and still winning the race doesnt set a good standard. Why the hell would either of them back down from a fight now that you know the risk/punishment is completely negligable…
[At Silverstone, intentional or not it was clearly Hamilton's fault and he wasn't punished enough.
At Monza it was a racing incident]
A little bit of honesty would be appreciated.
Whenever two parties are to blame and one is more to blame FIA applies the exact same penalty every time. IF the penalty can be given during the race, 5 seconds, if not, next race 3 places on the grid. When ONLY 1 driver is to blame it becomes 10 seconds or more or 5 places or more.
From that alone you can work out BOTH were to blame for Silverstone and BOTH were to blame for Monza. For Silverstone it was mainly Lewis, for Monza it was mainly Max. Compare that to the 5 place grid penalty Bottas received for Hungary, he was solely to blame. You could also have read this in FIA decission as they are publicized.
@@endthisnonsense7202 It sets a bad precedent where you can crash your title rival and still win the race to gain 25 points. They could have also deducted points after the race as a possible punishment…. It was no surprise Max’s driving was even more aggressive after silverstone since there is almost no punishment for doing so
@@gistrobaguette7566 [It sets a bad precedent where you can crash your title rival and still win the race to gain 25 points.]
As explained, it was not onesided both crashed into each other it was just HAM being a bit more to blame.
Apart from that it is not precedent, it is luck. If this crash is repeated a hundred times 90 times both will get a DNF, 4 times VER only, 4 times HAM only and 2 times both can continue the race.
Thanks for doing such good videos. No sensationalism just good fact and opinion. Really enjoy them. Compared to British rugby media you’re such a breath of fresh air.
Jos is the last person that should be criticizing anyone’s character. That man is a walking red flag
I am Dutch and i agree. He has his fathers arogance.
Definitely broke down when Lewis decided to punt Max off at Silverstone.
I’m sure they’ll have mellowed when the season starts, then it just depends if they have another flashpoint on track
I do not care about Max and Lewis relationship. I only care about the stolen championship that was gifted by Masi to Max.
One thing we can all agree on: stop giving Jos the attention he doesn't deserve.
@@johnpoulter he's got a big mouth and should be the last person to talk about "respect" considering his abusive history. He's a hypocrite that's why he should shut it.
Everything about how they view each other is all because of how big a man Lewis is. To not want to thump him in the head after all the dirty driving Max did makes him the biggest man in racing.
It is the media that wanted Hamilton en Verstappen hate each other, but that will not happend, both drivers has respect for each other and both drivers are excellent.
and thanks to both drivers, because this was the most exciting f1 jear in ages.
I am Max guy but I am already feeling sorry for the barrage of 2021 questions Lewis will get come the start of 2022.
Feel sorry for what? He is ok and will be fine..Max is the one to answer those questions..
Stop projecting. Be sorry and nervous for Max, he will be the one getting a barrage of questions by the media about being gifted a win by Masi
people think the FIA was "unfair" or "confuse", but, just replace the Abu Dhabi and Silverstone races in the calendar, and take a look at the end result: Verstappen would still win without finishing the race.
My point is: all the pains were about what happened as the LAST race, but if it was any other race in the calendar, nobody would still commenting the issue.
Hamilton for the first time faced a similar driver and is passing the token to the new generation, that day would arrive no matter what.
I never saw a mega great performance from Hamilton, maybe because he always had the best car and the success was at least expected (he even lost to himself in 2016), and in his carreer he was very lucky also (take 2008 as example, where Ferrari was the best car but one of the worst teams, they lost the championship more than Hamilton won that year).
In the end Mercedes lost the driver championship because:
1) they were arrogant at the very last laps after Latifi's crash
2) RedBull worked hard to close the gap
3) Verstappen is very good
Hamilton complained that Verstappen "brake-checked" him but completely "forgets" about his own tactics to hit the opponent's rear tires with his front wing in high speed corners.
(Just take a look on the last years, how many drivers he "picked" like that)
RedBull was even one entire engine short because of Silverstone.
that being said, I think media inflates to the last consequences every bit of the battle and wants to see "BLOOD" throwing one against the other.
So no mention of the words by Redbull toward Hamilton? No mention of the fact that after Silverstone that Redbull, in effort to continually try and get Hamilton penalized further they created false evidence and presented that to the FIA? No mention of how disrespectful Redbull treated Hamilton on track by using Perez to block Hamilton, while Mercedes never did that with Bottas.
The narrative is clearly that Verstappen is the victim despite the fact that around 60% of the incidents on track this year were created and performed by Verstappen's overly aggressive driving.
Lol they did try and block Hamilton with Bottas it's just that hes shit
Can you use a microphone pop filter please, it will stop the "P"s not pop out when you talk. Also try a high pass filter in your audio/video editing software :)
Verstappen should've won the title long before Abu Dhabi anyways. Being that the championship is not like Nascar where the last race determines the champion, every race still counted. If you count the points lost at Baku, Silverstone, and Hungary in which none were the fault of Verstappen but of a blown tire and 2 Mercedes punts. Well, then the season isn't even close. For all the "torpedo" like actions Hamilton fans say, it never hurt Hamilton in the race where he would've scored 0 points or had too much damage to recover.
I gotta admit, I think Lewis' calmness and kindness after the race in Abu Dhabi was because he thought surely the race results would be counted back.
That says an awful lot about you buddy and none of it good.
@@animalcol1bro Mercedes literally launched a protest and everything 40 minutes after the race, you think Lewis had no say in that? What are you even trying so say like you're being so fucking hostile for no reason I'm just making an observation
That's a stretch. You must be an expert in character analysis lol!
The Mercedes protest was pure formalities, it's something the team had to do but Toto and Lewis knew F1 will never ever overturn the result.
@@streetgato9697 nah I think if they actually went to FIAs court of appeals with this the FIA would have sided with Merc. The reason why Merc didn't go through with the appeal is because Max did nothing wrong and it would be wrong to take the title from him like that. The FIA is who fucked up.
@@massluca0078 Calm down son, you'll give yourself a massive.
Lewis is only respectful when he’s winning or in the lead. The moment he isn’t he’s either A) complaining on the radio to his team about a strategy call B) Calling out some illegality to the FIA that allowed him to be in second. C) Calling out the winning driver or team as clearly having the faster car.
This is where the Hamilton hate comes from.
Kimi Raikkonen has made a whole career of complaining on the radio but gets praised for it, Alonso complains, people find it funny, Max complains all the time, people find it funny but when Lewis complains when something doesn’t go right, all of sudden he’s a crybaby.
Just for reference Hamilton vs teammates: vs Alonso there was resentment, vs Button there was no love loss, vs Rosberg there was hatred. The only teammate Hamilton got along with was Bottas. Now let’s take Verstappen vs teammates: vs Sainz it was a battle but they are still friends, vs Ricciardo it was a battle but they are still friends, vs Gasley it was lopsided but they are still friends, vs Albon it was lopsided but they are still friends and vs Checo the relationship is fantastic. Does anyone see a pattern here? Maybe Hamilton isn’t the really “great” guy he always presents himself to be🤷🏻. Just sayin
Hamilton only got along with Bottas because he was a wingman unlike the others. The others pushed Hamilton back and didn't oblige to team orders to just "let him through."
100% correct
Don’t forget it was Alonso kicked off most teams and known attitude problems. The other main factor you are forgetting is that there are 4 World champions Hamilton has had as teammates. To get to that level you fight harder and its different. Its a dog eat dog world out there and its business. Your emphasis is on the wrong syllable and void of context.
@@JeLifeCoach so what you’re saying is that he doesn’t handle competition very well. Yes that’s pretty obvious
@@DucatiJohn I’d say he handles it extremely well.
Its similar to Marc Marquez vs Valentino Rossi in Motogp
Silverstone: Normally i did not even imagined Lewis did this on purpose. But he used the move on several occasions ( Albon, Rosberg) with great succes. Looking at his overly relieved demeanor is even suspicious. i guess he was afraid he went to far and killed someone. The pure emotions when he falsely was told max was fine ( again a team choice, they knew then he was send to hospital) showed his relief and it made him acting over the top. Silverstone was the break in dirty driving and Mercedes did everything they could to put the blame on Max. from then on. It was a very controversial win as a result.
whoever says "first", well just don't plz... -- Bwoah
Can anyone avail where max or lewis said they HATE each other? Many might have seen clips of both drivers sayings they respect each other.
Max said it in an interview after Abu Dhabi
@@imocartan8147 could you point me towards the alluded interview? Thanks
@@imocartan8147 max allegedly saying he hates lewis infers lewis also hates max? I'm bemused. Ergo the questions.
@@imocartan8147 Link/source?
To be accurate he said that during (some) races they "hate" eachother.
Otherwise the both of them are nothing but civilized and respectfull.
I wouldn't put much thought into the idea that they hate each other. They pushed each other so much all season but I see it being a 2021 season thing.
If I had to name an incident that started to turn it downhill, it would be Silverstone and the way Lewis celebrated after the race. It was completely over the top. He celebrated like he'd clinched the championship or won his home race for the first time.
It's his home race. He would always celebrate that the most. Very basic thing to understand with 100k plus coming just for you
@Henry Healy Really? That's your rationale? So he shouldn't have celebrated winning his how race? Whats the proper way of celebrated? Should have held a sermon? Especially as he wasn't informed max was taken for *PRECAUTIONARY* checks.
@@Bahamuttiamat that's just how racists think. They always have irrational expectations that nobody can meet, so they can have an excuse to express their hatred
@@camelio10 Aint that the truth.
Typically, people are either Lewis or Max. What I am is pro F1, and the crazy amazing end to the season, whoever wins-wins, got my 7 year old interested, perhaps for life. It was a good result from my POV :)
Great piece! It bring up a point in Senna-Prost battle, everytime they "hit" each other was at a slow speed corner. Most of the ""touches" in these battles were at mid to low corners... with the execption of one.
Suzuka 1990. Senna goes into prost flat out at turn 1.
@@theSafetyCar don't bring facts into this. It goes against his narrative.
The first lap at Silverstone was far more consequential to the outcome of the Championships (both drivers and constructors) than the last lap at Abu Dhabi. Hamilton and Mercedes got 25 unanswered points, RB lost a chassis and had to take an engine penalty.
If you are at fault for a collision that DNFs a competitor (as Hamilton was at Silverstone), you should forfeit all points for that race (or split them with the guy you wrecked). That sort of penalty might encourage these guys to give a little racing space
@@vandalsgarage No, it's called racing. They make mistakes, such as LAT did. But the shit show in the last race tainted the whole sport, it figuratively was the cherry on top of a mad season
@@vandalsgarage seems harsh for an accident that was at the time, a racing incident with fault from both sides although predominantly hamilton.
I think Silverstone will always be a sore point between them. The incident was a bad one, but I can see a) why it was 10 seconds and not a black flag and b) it was very lucky the incident didn't also put lewis out. The actual incident was basically lewis couldn't make the apex (red bull put a huge effort into proving lewis couldn't make the apex, and it's like, well, we know he couldn't, becouse if he could have, he, err, would have - if red bull proved lewis could've made the apex but chose not to, that'd be something quite different). It was entirly lewis at fault, but, it was a mistake in trying to make a pass, he got level on the way in, max left a car width inside him, there's a slight contact and thats it. He was entitled to go for the move, but he got it wrong, I also ask, if roles were reversed and Max saw that oprtunity, would he go for it? I think Max would.
So far, so racing. the 10 seconds feels unjust - it's the circumstances playing out that make it seem so. red flag givers merc the time to fix the car. lewis drives well and recovers 10 seconds easily. had the race carried on and LH retires or is well down the order it's still a sore point for the incident but on one loses their sense of proprtion over it.
It's everything after that that's bad, from both sides. Mercedes/Lewis got very very lucky on a number levels and giving it the big un was very bad taste. I get no one told Lewis Max was in the hospital, and i think hed have toned it down if he had been told, but Merceds should've known, should've told him and should've behaved better.
The situation isn't helped by Red Bull then mounting a character assassination on Lewis. Everyone knows (well, everyone apart from some corners of twitter) that Max was injured party and Lewis caused the accident. RBR feel it was dangerous and Lewis should've been black flagged - it's an understandable possition to take and had that been it, i think everyone would've understood. But all the comments about integrity and motivation etc etc and hiring silverstone for a day to prove albon in the old red bull couldn't have made the move to try to "prove" lewis should be DQd was over the top.
Mercedes then react to than with their own campaigning about Max's driving.
Both teams played it up.
I don't think they'll ever entrly let silverstone go between them or be best buddies like Rocky and Apollo but as professional colleagues they'll be perfectly fine. I doubt they'll ever be team mates and Lewis will retire soon while Max has some halcion days ahead of him. I don't think Lewis is going to be "F1 circus personality" after he retires.
@Tobias Z While its true Sir lewis didn't make the apex, well how could he? Max squeezed him to the old pit lane, noticed him on the inside and still turned in. Max could've given more space considering the angle but expect Sir lewis to back down. He didnt and they made contact. If Hamilton carried that same stupidity they would've crashed far more times. Monza and brazil being great examples.
@@Bahamuttiamat actually Lewis did try to back out of it. They were side by side going in but then Lewis backed out as his car washed wide because it lost front downforce as Max turned in on him. It wasn't deliberate. Personally I blame the FIA for creating all this chaos. They have been slack in enforcing the rules since the start of the season. Max went off track in Silverstone in the first few corners to defend his lead but because of the 'first lap grace' he got away with it and has been abusing that first-lap-leniency this entire season. Pushing others off track or going off track himself to maintain his advantage. That all said, to me there is a distinct difference between a poor judgment call in the split second of wheel to wheel racing and a deliberate attempt to retire or damage the other car. RBR were dedicated to getting Lewis retrospectively black flagged and submitted fabricated 'evidence' but when the tables are turned, it is just 'hard racing'. If making the apex is the primary criteria for whether a penalty should be awarded, then surely Max should have been punished for multiple instances as well? Think Brazil T4 where there was a deliberate effort NOT to make the apex with contact only avoided by Lewis' actions. Given Max's trajectory at Silverstone, he would likely not have stayed in track limits on the exit either so he also went in hot in an effort not to cede the position. But the reason I bring the racing accident vs deliberate effort into this is because RBR were blaming Lewis for what happened in Saudi when the brake trace showed Max DELIBERATELY braking hard. I rewatched that event from Max's onboard on F1TV and he knew exactly where Lewis was when he decelerated at 2.4Gs. It was a deliberate brake check. The FIA eventually ruled as such. So tell me why was Max not black flagged for that? It does not matter that Max failed in winning the championship there and then. Michael Schumacher tried the same thing in 1997 (after succeeding in 1994) and was stripped of his entire season's points even though Villeneuve won the championship that year. So precedent for penalising malicious driving exists! But now imagine the uproar if they actually followed their own rules this season when they've allowed deviant behaviour from Max for the last few seasons, especially this season. The fact that the entire rest of the grid said they still don't understand what is allowed and what is not makes this an objective point of contention. Many on the grid said they will change their driving if this is allowed. Lando even joked about brake checking only being a 10 s penalty. Remember, the FIA judge the incident, not the consequences. So if you manage to brake check your competitor and he retires from the damage, it should from now on only be a 10 s penalty. And this is what people seem to miss or forget: Abu Dhabi T2 cut by Lewis was him taking evasive action for Max running him wide, but it was the stewards who ruled he didn't have to yield the position. But for some reason, the some of the more trashy Max fans seem to think that the SC blunder was payback on Lewis for T2 even though Lewis was not the one who ruled on the incident! Or for the tyre failure at Baku. Which makes no sense since Lewis had no role there. And this has happened so many times this season. Something goes against your driver, and you get upset with the other driver, seldom with the FIA who created this grey monster of what is acceptable racing. To be honest, the FIA made this season much closer than it likely should have been by the time we got to Abu Dhabi. Rules to the letter needs to be enforced so drivers know exactly what is acceptable and what is not.
@@PhilConradie Facts!! all of it.
@@Bahamuttiamat Opinion...all of it! Fact!!!
Should Monza be a sore point between them? Just asking.
Please after 8 years in the fastest car by far, Lewis does not know nor can’t accept losing to a better driver as the Mercedes is the fastest car, Max is the faster driver by far. Luci is still crying not only inside the car now also outside silly Luci get a live narcist. Pay yr taxes in the UK like yr fan boys, don’t act all the time and repeat yourself all the time pr talk talk cha cha cha please no more politics in Sport or kneel if you want at home not for the show its disgusting.Silverstone comes also to mind. Yes Lewis is one of the best drivers on the grid but yeah in the best car gives you not much respect from the F1 fans outside the Brexit area.
You are entitled to your opinions so why do you want to censor others. And if you must comment about taxes then you need to get your facts right. lewis pays taxes in the UK (in the top 5000) to be precise, so does Mercedes AGM as the team is registered in the UK. Lewis as with all other drivers pays taxes in every country they work in.
if it hadn't been for silverstone there would have never been a championship decider maybe this should be considered before saying lewis was robbed same goes for baku and hungary neither of which max was to blame for
This season has DEFINITELY not been Formula 1 Best Friend Championship like 2017-2019 with Hamilton vs Vettel
So a complete nothingburger, just two people competing for gold as in any other sport. This isn't journalism -- just a compilation of media gossip from throughout the year.
Some felt was a brake test? Don’t you mean the data showed was a brake test? Of all the incidents over the year, that is the one that is absolutely unforgivable. You just cannot do that and if the FIA hadn’t wanted both drivers on even points going to the last race Verstappen would have been disqualified.
That's the problem with the media and their choice of works to soften or straight out excuse max's terrible driving. Were the roles reversed, would they say "arguably". Of course not. Because Scott blame lewis entirely for silverstone, but made provisions for monza. The f1 media is a fucking joke.
If it really was a brake test they would have penalized Max a lot harder.
Max was found to be predominantly to blame according to the stewards.
The actual problem in my view was the confusion, Max was told to let Lewis pass and hence slowed down to let Lewis by.
Lewis on the other hand wasn't told that Max would let him pass so he stayed behind Max and also slowed down while he should have stayed on the racing line and pass Max.
The fact that Lewis did not pass Max obviously added to the confusion of Max who was waiting there for Lewis to pass, he did not know that Lewis wasn't told to pass Max.
@@42earthling the data from his car proved it. Yes, there was confusion during that abomination of a “race” but they were going to Abu Dhabi level regardless. That was the FIA’s wish once they saw it was possible. That move had the potential to kill someone on a fast straight into a blind turn and he should have been disqualified, possibly banned from Abu Dhabi too. That would have sent out the right message about safety on track but they cared only about the publicity and the money from a Championship decider.
@@42earthling Maybe you're unaware, but max applied 69 bars of pressure which decelerated his car by 2.5gs. Merely lifting off the throttle is around 1g of deceleration. If letting lewis by was his only intention, they a mere lift would've suffice. As he did in bahrain earlier in the season. He should've been black flagged.
@@Y2Kev5 No it did not proved a brake test, it only showed that Max used his brakes which was also obvious without the data, both have braked in that area and were in 3th gear at the moment when the contact occured.
I think the respect between Red Bull and Mercedes has deteriorated, but the respect between the drivers is still there
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... I don't think there was much there to begin with
Just get this Hamilton vs Verstappen controversy done and dusted, FIA.
dutch guy and max fan here . i think theres little to blame hamilton for except the silverstone crash and celebration . hamilton is not friends with anyone on the paddock they say . all the intence sick toxic shit is comin from toto and mercedes . if even dinosaur bernie notices it there must be some truth to it
I’d say there’s more coming from Horner. I think he’s a factor with the inconsistency of the FIA
Hamilton started the season with a win, and from then on the momentum shifted more and more to Verstappen. Before Silverstone Verstappen had a 32 point lead. Something had to give. That's why Hamilton was so siked up to win. He got beaten in the sprint qualifying, that annoyed him. So he was determined to get Verstappen in the race. Verstappen hadn't anticipated such ferocity from Hamilton, and he claimed copse, to lead the race, and it never crossed his mind that Hamilton would try that over ambitious move. It could've cost Hamilton the race, it could've knocked them both out. Unfortunately for Verstappen he ended with a massive impact in the tires, and Hamilton got to get his car fixed.
Now here's where the mind games come in. To show he felt he done nothing wrong, Hamilton made a spectacle out of his win. The shots of him with the British flag were very over the top, and it was a way for Hamilton to say, screw you Max, you're not going to humiliate me, I'll do it to you.
It had a short effect on Verstappen. He's sitting there with a sore head and body. His vision blurry, seeing his rival celebrating an unfair win. So that changed his perception of Hamilton. In the rest of the season, Toto Wolff has made an arse out of himself so many times, so many contradictions, using a different stand whenever it suited them, that Verstappen vowed never to work for Mercedes.
I'm so glad Karma was served, and Verstappen won the title. 😊
After reading your analysis of Silverstone crash, I have no option but to believe that you are a new Auto sports fan. The correct way of wheel to wheel racing at that kinda speed is almost common sense among racing drivers.
It was more or less like ,
Max didn’t fear the consequences of ‘Jink and dive ‘ and Ham made understeer mistake by braking late.
FIA favored both drivers almost equally and it was not fair to the other drivers . Penalties they got were almost meaningless and didn’t affect points at all.
“Let them race”. was the very comment that symbolizes many different kinds of political and commercial intentions of FIA. Merc and RB are 2 of 3 giants that feed F1. Plus Ham is a British and Max is the most favored driver by the fans. It explains everything.
But everyone knew that F1 was dying to see the new champ who will end the boringness of Merc dominance. Ppl
love underdog stories.
You're so misguided. How many times did Hamilton give way to Verstappen to avoid a crash? At least 5 or 6 times, then the one time he doesn't give way to Verstappen's aggressive driving, they crash (Silverstone). To me, it shows Verstappen drives over the limit & he doesn't know how to overtake or defend against rivals without causing collisions. Brazil, Imola, Spain, Italy, Abu Dhabi...the list of Verstappen almost causing an accident is endless!
That's not karma. Karma is comeuppance by nature, not with human interference from Masi at Abu Dhabi.
Max has been a reckless driver all season who thinks it's his birthright to have other drivers make way for him anytime... which Lewis and other drivers did gave way many times to avoid a crash. Any of those close calls would've ended in unnecessary crashes or worse injuries or death.
At Silverstone, Lewis driving in his home turf didn't take the bluff and stood his ground.
Max fans cry when the shoe is on the other foot.
Your bias towards Max is blinding
@@mcxix2742 Verstappen sees a gap and claims it, leaving no doubt. Thats his style, it's what got him this far in a lesser car.
This video was about how the relationship between Verstappen and Hamilton has changed, not to rehash the Mercedes " Verstappen is dangerous" narrative.
It doesn't really matter. What is fact though, is that the FIA gifted the 2021 Championship to Max by intentionally departing from the rules. Therefore the race was not won on the track rather in Race Control.
I think the Lewis - Max relationship should be seen within the Lewis - rest of the field perspective as well. While nobody was and is explicit about it, I perceive an increasing dislike of Lewis within the F1 field. Besides Mercedes having 8 engines on the grid, there is this atmosphere where Mercedes thinks it owns F1. That they, like Ferrari, are entitled to special treatment. Lewis's anti discrimination campain, politicizing the sport with Lewis as moral leader, while being commendable also contributed to this. Toto also just admitted that 'they' (Mercedes and Red Bull) went to far in influencing the Race director. The problem with the self declaration of a moral leadership is that it puts you into a position where every small mistake is put under a magnifying glass.. and in Silverstone I think Lewis/Mercedes misjudged it completely after the race. It was the tipping point where that moral leadership was lost but Mercedes kept at it which ultimately resulted in the radio comments we all heard during the last race.
There goes another opinionated rubbish pulled out personal feelings from watching TV and RUclips.
@@Oldman1912 And your comment is any different because? Oh right it doesn't draw on any arguments to support it while OP does... So it's even worse.
@@suckieduckie and your point is?
@@Oldman1912 You are sharing an opinion on how opinions on youtube are just personal feelings. You really don't see the paradox?
@@suckieduckie smh 🥱🤦🏿♂️....Happy New Year in advance!
There we go again. Angels Mercedes/Lewis en bullies Red bull/Verstappen. Watch accident Silverstone and watch the celebrations afterwards. I am not a fan of Max or Lewis but i am a little bit angry every time i watch it.
So what did Lewis do, if anything at all. Max said and did a few things especially walking off podium.