Front End Alignment in your driveway Done right
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Results just as good, sometimes better than a shop. Just take your time.
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~~~CAMBER~~~~~
CAMBER not discussed in this video but is easily checked
First thing I would check is worn out ball joints. This will affect camber, which I don't discuss in the video. This is how straight up and down each tire is relative to the ground. This will cause inside/outside tire wear. You can check this pretty easily.
-Park on perfectly level ground (you can pull one tire onto shims/blocks to achieve this). Check with carpenters level.
-Take a straight edge off the rim from the bottom to the top(standing up) and measure how level it is.
-You want to have a 0.5 - 1° of negative camber(tire top towards car center).
This is more easily done with a digital angle gauge like these: amzn.to/1ow23vN . But you can see severe out of tolerance with a simple carpenters level and generally get it very close.
NOT ALL VEHICLES have adjustable camber. Some you have to buy special eccentric bolts/cams, some have simple slots you loosen bolts and move the upper control arm in/out, and some have a strut you can rotate to achieve a slight change. Angle Gauge: amzn.to/1ow23vN
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Specs are hard to find and generally only found in degrees so here are generally accepted specs.
Front Wheel Drive:
Front- toe out 1/16" to zero
Back- toe in 1/16" to zero
All Wheel Drive:
Front- toe out 1/16" to zero
Back- toe in 1/16" to zero
Rear wheel drive:
Front: Toe in 1/16-1/8"
Rear: 0
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CAMBER? Though not discussed in this video it is easy and I describe how in the VIDEO DETAIL page below the video.
The adjustment measurements you are using is for total Toe, individual toe would use a slightly different process would it not?
For individual wheel Toe measurement, would you not adjust to the one side with the steering wheel centered? Then adjust the other side?
@@chrish7336 Well the first problem is you don't know which side is out. It's easiest to set the correct measurement/ toe. Then if the wheel is not centered; you simply do opposite what you do one side to the other side. For example, half a turn on one side in and half a turn on the other side out. This will move the steering wheel without messing with the alignment that you set. Just do opposite on each side until the steering wheel is where you want it to be. You will need to drive it in between but you don't have to measure it again.
@@sixtyfiveford I guess that would accomplish the same thing. Will have to keep that in mind, I figured I would center the wheel then Adjust the 1 wheel within limits and then do the same on the other (using angle calculations). This process may make it a little simpler.
Thanks for the info.
Props to this guy for factoring in the track width of the front and rear of a vehicle. Before you even start aligning you should check this specification of your vehicle. Without this information everything will be off and you will be just wasting your time. A lot of "the right way" alignment videos out there do not even mention this. Again, hats off to Sixtyfiveford !!! God bless.
You are an A no.1 guy. I didn't know anything about a wheel alignment until I watched your channel. I truly learned a lot from you, a simple and easy to understand tutorial. Thanks.
Thanks.
Reminds me of when Doc showed Marty how he would go back to the future. If you remember the model caught on fire.
+doublewide6 That's very funny because I see it as well.
Yeah and the doc used a Chevy. That caught on fire... bwahahahahhahahhah!
Ford bitches!!!!!!!!!
yes !!! so true!!
im a car mechanic and also i do allignments
almost all diy allignment videos are wrong...
you are right on the money...
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Setup is simpler than you're making it. After initially setting the parallel, don't move anything until you know all the details.
(1) Set your two parallel lines by measuring the distance between the lines in front and behind to make them equal.
(2) Measure the gap on the left plus the right of the front axle (at center hub) and divide the sum in half.
(3) Measure the gap on the left plus the right of the rear axle (at center hub) and divide the sum in half.
(4) Then adjust each string on sides so the front is the distance calculated in step #2 and the rear value in step #3.
(5) As a verification that you now have two parallel lines, measure the distance between the lines in front and behind the vehicle. If those are the same, you're all set.
KISS (Keep It Super Simple)
Been working in cement in the cold north of Norway for 17 years. Of course you want the job done efficiently because of this fact. Your method is used to square up every frame in record time. Never fails, always true 90 degrees. " KISS" indeed.
A very intelligent guy with great ideas!!! ALL OF YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY! you can fix most of your own stuff... its not rocket science. thank you 65 ford!
Thanks for watching.
The guys at the shps who say it is rocket science. I started fixing mine when I paid the guy at the shop and it still was not fixed.
Thanks for the video! Explained DIY home alignment really well.
The 2 x 4's make set up real fast. I'd used the car jack method before but getting the stringlines perfectly aligned and parallel was a chore. With the preset wood, I can now set up and check my alignment in about 20 minutes at most. I can easily and repeatedly set up the nail positions correctly relative to the car, now knowing the distance from the front and rear wheel centers to each string line.
I did find that the rear wheels/axle on my Mustang were 6mm out of parallel with the front, ex-factory! Putting on adjustable rear Lower Control Arms, I was able to fix that, then get a perfect alignment.
Alignment. Thank you for making videos. Watching your videos helps me remember to not over think things when fixing a problem. You’re right about phone apps being better than pro alignment (Schwabie) systems from a dozen years ago.
Hey, thanks man. I just changed a bunch of front end parts on my bmw 535. I followed your advice, the car tracks straight down the road and the steering wheel is just right. Worked perfectly.
Awesome!
Followed everything. Great idea. I'm just having trouble understand how you were able to pick your entire truck up and hold it in your hand. I really like the grocery bag idea. I just replaced both inner and outer tie rods, both left and right sides.
Thanks for the great video.
Excellent and well done! I have been checking/adjusting toe on my cars at home this way. Compared my first time to professional alignment with print-out and got near exact results.
Important to note that toe must be checked/adjusted LAST if any changes made to car standing height or camber and caster.
best alignment video out of the ten i watched today to get my saturn an alignment by myself. learned alot on how and why it works from the visual aid nice touch. great video thanks
Thanks, I'm glad it was helpful.
Right on man not even halfway through the vid just need to say thanks. I did full brakes all around with aftermarket parts. 2001 Mazda B3000 pickup.
Been watching a bunch of videos on setting your own alignment so I can do it on my pickup, and this is by far the most helpful video. Thanks!
He doesn't know if his rear wheels are aligned so how can he use them to align the front
Best video on alignment! I've watched many as I prepare to do this myself after installing new tie rods ends. Thank you!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
I did this last night in my garage and it worked great! Thank you. You saved me $$!
Awesome, I'm glad you tried it out.
Thanks for a great video. My 99 Taurus front end was a wore out mess, I rebuilt everything, replaced tie rod ends (inner and outer), and foolishly assumed the settings would be normal with new parts (shock mount plates were spot welded in place). Well, after only 6 months my front tires were worn out, the car pulled left, steering wheel was off center, and the drivers side tire was wearing out the OUTER edge (opposite of most Taurus's). The passenger side tire wore evenly, but was shot also. Fortunately, the rear tires still look brand new, so no problem with the rear alignment. Anyway, toed in the left tire to counter pull, wore out 2 tires in 2 months! So I drilled out the camber plate on the driver's side shock tower, got rid of the positive camber, then used your method. Turns out the tires were toed in by 1/2 to 3/4 inch (each Side!), way too much, so now I know why the car was eating front tires. THANK YOU, you saved my sanity (and a fair amount of money), I set them to zero toe in, and a noise that sounded like a brake pad wear indicator, chirping every time I turned right, has disappeared, something that had been driving me nuts since my rebuild about a year ago. I finally know what was going on, which is a relief. The car was treacherous to drive in rainy weather, unstable and constantly hydroplaning before my alignment. So, I'm hoping that is resolved, and I'm confident that will be the case. Great video, good job, well done.
Thanks for in the insight. I'm glad it was helpful.
I LOVE this Guy! Second how to video i have watched from him and both are quite flawless,
he is a jack.
Thanks for watching!
Good vid. Ive done it before with rop laying flat against the tire ( my boss told me to it this way) and it tracked like garbage.
You way seems ideal. Squared up and centered to the string. +1
Thanks.
Never seen the garbage bags under the tires before. Never knew that would make it easy to turn the wheels.
+1970chevelle396 Yeah, the first time I read it on a forum I was skeptical.
I learned today two pieces of cardboard on top of each other from Chris Fix. I'm not a mechanic but Im not inexperienced either. He has a cool video showing how to increase turning angles for sharper turns for free or using cheap PVC.
I loved the set up, insuring a known good start point is crucial.
+wyattoneable Thanks.
Awesome tutorial!! On all my trucks, I would put a 1/4 inch castor wedge on the right steer. It helped to lessen the pull to the right that crowned roads cause. It's even more pronounced in a high center of gravity vehicle.
+BCtruck, rebuild, repair,repurpose That's a great idea. Did a lot of drivers do this?
+sixtyfiveford I only met a few others that would even no what I was talking about. Most drivers were just that and couldn't point to the alternator or even the compressor.
the carrier bag under the tyres is impressive
+Jamie Phillips Thanks, it seams to work out very well.
So much better method than all those videos where they wrap a string around the car body. No car body is dead straight, or has the same track front to rear.
i had my alignment done twice and it wasn't done right i'm so doing it myself from now on thanks
Seams to be a common issue with alignment shops.
Speaking from experience as a master tech who went to a large chain tire shop. They maximize profit by having inexperienced general service (lube & tire) techs do the alignments. Most managers believe all you need to know is on the screen and that if the angles are in the green it is good. I actually got into an argument with one manager and told him "I can make everything green and it will pull so hard you won't be able to hold the wheel. Or everything red and it will track straight while chewing the tires off."
He doesn't even know if he's back wheels all aligned properly so how can you align the front ones correct
@@niteblaster1 it's on a straight axle. You'll feel a bent axle
The best DIY alignment video on RUclips!
Thanks, it has worked out very well for me over the years.
Good job. I used the "string" method to align my ATV, worked good. Congratulations on hitting 50000 subs! WooHoo!
+cubbeezx Thanks Man....
I just used this method. Worked great. My car has to be raised to make the toe adjustment which means I have to setup and adjust the strings each time. I did it three times. Three of my car's wheels were good and I got consistent, repeatable, measurements across each of those three separate string set ups. The one wheel that needed adjustment showed the expected change after each adjustment. I did this after installing new tie rod end on both sides.
Awesome, I've had fantastic success with this.
Same car got the string alignment again after getting new front control arms. Worked perfectly again. It had a slight right pull, and the measurements showed a slight right front tow out condition, which matched what the right pull. Adjusted that out and the pull was gone.
Always doing it right Moe. Thanks for the video.
+EdOfTheNorth Thanks...
Been using this methodfor years , well explainted top man .
Very nicely explained. Thanks a lot.
The best alignment video ever produced by man
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
was needing alignment on a Suburban, good timing, thanks
+tblbaby Thanks. I hope it helps.
Good video. Another method: Tape on tread of wheel with X on it. Long stick with nails sticking out about the width of the X. You bring wheels to front and back and measure difference. Works great.
+phooesnax Thanks..
finally someone who makes sence. I never understood why people always use the string method and measure the same distance from the front hub to the string as the rear hub to the wheel. Both axles may have a different width so it makes no sence to me. But I don't agree on the "toe out" part, but that's a matter of preference.
Nice video, I had a 1995 Escort LX with the 1.9 in it. Best car I ever owned. I had over 375,000 miles on it. Unfortunately the uni-body rusted out. I had the 5 speed in it and got over 45 m,p.g. The engine still purred like a kitten.
+Glen Harper Yeah, this 96 has been amazing. My wife bought it in 98 and it is now clocking just under 300k and the 5 speed allows amazing gas mileage. 48mpg is the best I've ever done for a few hundred miles. The speed limits in my state are all 70mph -80mph on freeways so that kills some mpg(pisses people off if you go slower), but I still manage high 30's on a regular basis. Rust has just recently started to show in a few minor areas so I still got some time to get to 400k. You must live in the New England States?
Oostburg,Wisconsin
awesome work man, thanks I've been wandering how to do this on my own. keep up the awesome videos
+gnarley1223 Thanks Man...
Thanks for the explanation. A lot of the other videos lack the detail you explained and demonstrated.
Glad it was helpful!
This method ASSUMES that the rims are perfectly true and are not out of round or bent in ANY way. As a mechanic who has been aligning cars for 40 years it's common to find car rims that are not true. If you are going to use this method, mark one of the rims at the 12:00 position. Record your toe. Roll the car until the mark is in the 6:00 position and then reset your strings and take another toe measurement. If it's not exactly the same reading then you can't really set the toe accurately. Of course non of this matters if the camber is not set first.
One thing I check first is if the rims are true with the hub using a dial indicator. Even a cheap dial indicator will work well enough to tell if your rim is true to the hub. All you have to do is spin the tire and you will quickly be able to tell if the rim is straight. Definitely, something to check though before going through all the work of aligning just to find out that the rim is bent.
Oh c'mon if the rims arent true you are gonna get lots of vibration when driving
Research and Build no true. Assuming your wheels were properly balanced when you have new tires mounted, there will be no vibration.
Jimmy Duong actually not true, no matter how good your balance if your rims aren’t true you WILL get some vibration
If a rim was bent then even shop computer alignments would not work either since the tools attach to the rim
on an old f series Ford truck you have to go by the distance between the rear jak stands and the front jack stands, because one front wheel sticks out a little more than the other from the factory , most people don't realize that. so , you can't measure from the center of the front wheels and they both be the same they won't be.
On my '79 F350 it seems like the drivers front tire sticks out a bit more than the passenger tire, in relation to the rear tire.
That was perfect! As much as I know about cars and others and as simple as it is now, I never knew how to adjust center on the wheel. It drives me nutz when the wheel center is off...
+Curiosity Thanks for watching....
people always told me I needed to straighten out, so I watched this and finally did!
I'm glad it was helpful.
Great video, really explains how to do it correctly thanks for the help!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks, great explanation!!
You're awesome! Finally a video explaining the string method that actually made fucking sense! Much love! 😁
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
i learned this in auto body in dallas. we used the x method which is the same with plum bobs. theres measuring points listed on every car or truck in there manuals.
+Robert Gwinn Those manuals with all that info are great. I've seen them before in person but don't think that info is online.
Thank you so much for taking the time to really explain.
Awesome, I'm glad it was helpful!
Thanks for making this video. I just tried doing this with a laser level but I didn’t account for the front and rear axel widths potentially being different. My alignment seems to have turned out well, but I’ll use this method next time.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Good video well explained 65.....One thing I could add is invest in a steering wheel stop or you could even use ratchet straps tied to the seat frame, to stop the steering wheel from moving while you're turning the tie rod ends....Gets rid of trying to get the steering wheel straight at the end..
Great info, congrats on 50K your one of the good guys.👍👍
+STEVE ROB Thanks Steve.
Great video. I'm tempted to try this myself on a sunny day. But it's winter here in Michigan so I'll be waiting a few months to give it a try! :)
I've had really good luck doing all my own alignments.
Best explanation of them all, thanks man appreciate it.👍
I did my truck. After changing Upper and Lower joints and tie rods. Results perfect. I don’t need a mechanic or alignment shop.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Best explanation i've seen. Thanks!
Thanks. It has worked out very well for me.
Measure the center of the tread of the rear wheels. Then go up front and do the same toeing it it according to specs. Center the steering wheel turning it fully left counting the TURNS and then full right counting turns. Stop at the middle, centering the steering wheel. Get OTC steering wheel holder or have someone hold it. JEG has a toe-bar. Get a caster-camber gauge and appropriate tools. Check the tires for bumps while rotating it to check for out-of- round. Check tie-rod ends and steering for looseness first.
Great job and advice
Thanks
Ash from Scotland 🏴
Thanks
Got my attention with the 2x4 methods
Great info huge help man thanks.
Very well explained, thank you.
Thanks.
Very nicely explained , thank you.
This video straightened me right out! haha Good info man
+Ozzstar ha... Thanks man.
Excellent video!
Another great DIY video!
+Tim theToolman Thanks Man. I'm still thinking about those ramps you did the video on and all the uses I could have for them.
I'm really pleased with them. They do the job, but I like you don't have a lot of room in the garage left to store any new "stuff". And guys like us always need more stuff
Another great vid.Many TKS!
+BART SIMPSON Thanks Man...
dude very good explanation men good job now to do it on my dually but my error is i lose the top moog bolt and wow that thing fells like you riding a bull
50k. wow that's awesome
as always great vid
+2LateIWon Thanks.
Thanks man, very helpful.
Thanks for watching.
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This is an absolutely great explanation on how to do an alignment yourself! Now I have a couple of cars that I can save money on. Thanks bro! #Subscribed
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Great info as always
best explanation I ever heard! thanks!!
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thank you. great video, very helpful!
GREAT video.
Thumbs up Mr ford and thanx for this video very well explained
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awesome job with the tiny toy model!!!!!!!!!!!!
good vid, as usual from you.
you forgot to mention that to make the measurement to ensure the rims themselves are not buckled. cus that can affect the measurements.
i quite like the idea of using the calliper. I wouldn't have though of that,.
Personally i have looked into doing alignment myself in the past. but here in the UK the cost of getting it done by a franchised garage is very competitive. so i take mine to the garage.
+tuga2112 I actually shortened up the already long video and took out the rim info. I figured too much info will scare people off.
Great video this really helped me a lot I got my front end set on my old 95 Toyota 4Runner I put some 33” tires on my vehicle I took it to the shop and they did the alignment but it was still pulling then I came across your video I did it my self this weekend and it drives straighter then ever! Thank you 🙏😊👍
Awesome. I'm glad the video was helpful.
If rear toe is non adjustable on a vehicle and you know it's right, that string can be measured off the back and front on the rear rim, string adjustment is made by moving the string from the front of the vehical until the string is straight with the back rim. That'll give you a straight string for the front wheel to be measured off of. Can't really measure just off the center of the back wheel, cause you still can't know if the string is straight with the rims. The string has to be measured off 4 points, 2 off the back wheel and 2 off the front wheel. String should be really tight so it doesn't shift, the thinner the string the more precise measurement.
Thank you so much best video .
Excellent. Thank you.
Hey Thanks.
Great tutorial. My local garage got it wrong but I don't have the heart to whine about it so I'll do what you said. Thank you.
I'm glad the video was helpful.
Hey,...that was a awesome video and a great "Tutorial" You couldn't have said it any simpler. Now I know how I can save me $50.00 every time I need man alignment. Thanks
Alignment shops are hit and miss. It's nice to be able to play around with it yourself, and tweak it exactly to what your car likes.
Very helpful. Thx man.
Good stuff fella
Hey Thanks.
You're assuming that both front and rear axles are perfectly centered under the vehicle. If they are, then great, but if you have a lifted Jeep with solid axles, the axles will shift the more you lift it. Even if you correct it and recenter the axles, no one can guarantee that they are centered precisely enough for this alignment method to be accurate enough. I think measuring the difference between front and rear of the front tires will be more reliable.
Apartment parking already has straight lines to measure off for the parking space. Nice.
inother words, you can have the strings perfectly square and you will have more distance from one front wheel to the string than the other , this is the way they are made from the factory
Thanks for describing how to set-up the box re the wheel axle centers - especially using the toy car was genius. Only critique is that you could have done the vid in 75% less words if you condensed your adlib into a straight-up script with minimal chatter.
you are the man!
Very well done
Awesome, I'm glad you liked it.
@@sixtyfiveford I used your method but to make things easier in the front and back I clamped 2×4s to the jack stands and put screws at the same exact distances apart and tied string to screws. Worked great!
I just did this with my car, it DID work. Wheel now centered, runs straight.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
great video, thanks. especially for not using some random annoying background music!
+bidders77 Thanks. I've been guilty of that before.
I second that, both about the video and the music! :)
i normally use a 4 yard(meter, im danish) steel or straight wood with a small on the rim spacer to clear the rubbers and then messure near the wheel and at the uotmost edge to see the diff! i havent had a car yet wth toe in/out at the reat unless it needed a new rear axle!
+transdetendal Yeah, that's great method.
Yesterday, I tried the sting method to see if it would really indicate
something close for toein/toeout. I think the rotor throw me off because
I took to a alignment shop and had it checked :) It was right on the
money all along but I thought it was off because the right front tire
was wearing on the outside thread. *suspension parts were all good
Watched your vid a few times to confirm info. You talked about the difference between the front and the back tracking distance. Not sure how the calipers would change the difference but I like rotor idea difference in thickness.
Got the string set up and I set it at 1 inch both rears to the rim. (rim front/back)
The front left is at 1 3/8 to the rim (rim front/back)
The front right is wacky 1 inch (rim front/back) Picked another point on the rim. just inside the lip of the rim and I get 1 3/8. So, it has to be the thickness of the rotor? Your thoughts
The reason for checking the string alignment was to see how close it would be to a actual shop alignment numbers. If I could get confidence in the string measurement. I need to do another jeep. :)
Anyway, Thanks going into detail with your vid. esp explaining the tracking distance difference.
Edit update. Ok, checked again with adjusting the string in the front. Front now shows 1 inch both tires front.
You need to set up a perfectly square box around the vehicle. So the strings that protrude from the front and back of the vehicle are identical distances apart. Then you can start taking measurements and moving the box around to be positioned "square" with the vehicle.
Thank you for the reply. final question. (about toe)
Just curious.. How close do you think the string measurement to the actual shop alignment? 99% of the time..? 95%?
I'll definitely make sure I take measurements front and back on the string line next time.. Thanks again for replying
also an alignment is a huge deal and you have a bunch of people reading and watching what you say and commenting below me going to try your quick teaching method and they could end up with completely ruined tires due to a faulty alignment. DON'T GET ME WRONG I like your videos keep them coming I have to say I think this video was brushed off..... as a super simple done thing like a oil change and a poor alignment can cause a major accident.....
Yeah simple oil change.... Scammers like Jiffy cheat lube. And mecanics s shops.I have gone to shops while working in my car kwoning ballpark price to fix certain things and guess what : still try to screw you
Good video thanks
Thanks.
I hate You tube. I always watch your videos. They never show up on my page. Weird. Always a good video.
Thanks Man.
the 2x4 saved me
awesome info thanks
Try it out, it works great.