Will FPV's Popularity Ruin the Sport? A Skater’s Perspective

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @BOTGRINDER
    @BOTGRINDER 14 дней назад +20

    nah i already ruined it before yall even heard of it.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад +4

      I’m the meta complaining about new skateboarders ruining skateboarding and being new to FPV 😭

    • @stephendeben1590
      @stephendeben1590 11 дней назад +2

      thanks for scaring the normies away bot, you help keep FPV real.

  • @GaryWerbisky
    @GaryWerbisky 14 дней назад +7

    ok this is odd, after flying around the other day I was telling my better half that FPV is like skateboarding, looking for spots, working out what you could do, the gaps etc, never really thought much about it but now im seeing loads of other old skateboarders finding a home with FPV . . . . . . .

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад +3

      @@GaryWerbisky lots of old skaters in FPV. Easier on the body!

  • @scvvm
    @scvvm 13 дней назад +1

    “ima test out my 5in in this 90mph wind” that was gold😂😂

  • @SynthWoof
    @SynthWoof 15 дней назад +10

    same, I just got her 6 months ago. Started with DJI, realized I hated it, got a real 5 inch and now I'm scared FPV is on borrowed time

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +4

      @@SynthWoof I thought this as soon as I bought a tiny whoop 🤣 if there is one thing governments love doing… clamping down on poor people having fun and making exclusive to the affluent

    • @techdfpv
      @techdfpv 15 дней назад +1

      I understand your concerns I used to ride Quads with friends, we would find areas to ride and found a great place and talked to the owner and he was all cool with it. We rode there for months till some Moron used his backhoe and make a ramp (Not part of our crew) and we weren't allowed to ride there again. When I fly I try to talk to everyone I can in the vicinity to let them know what I'm doing. A local school that I practice my freestyle at had some kids practicing for football I talked to the guy running it let him know I was going to practice my flying well away from them and he was cool with it. My style of handeling things is not for everyone but I do what works for me. I learned early on that you can get more bees with honey then you can with vinegar so I try to be polite to people I'm flying around as much as possible.

    • @SaiyanEuc
      @SaiyanEuc 15 дней назад +3

      This is why I like tiny whoops, to government they are toys, and they kinda are but still so much fun to fly.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +3

      @ yeah, I am hoping this technology gets better! HDzero whooping looks amazing. Although the 5” power to weight ratio will be difficult to match!

  • @RBRCbashem
    @RBRCbashem 15 дней назад +10

    Some things are better left “underground”

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +3

      @@RBRCbashem Green Day

    • @RBRCbashem
      @RBRCbashem 15 дней назад +2

      @ 😆

    • @Mossinthewoods
      @Mossinthewoods 14 дней назад +2

      Preach. Skating was always more exciting when it died

  • @markg55
    @markg55 13 дней назад +1

    Skateboarding was never ruined by becoming popular and it isn't ruined now, with respect I think that's a bit of a grumpy old man take. It's been variously popular and unpopular throughout the decades (for instance the original 70s boom, then the BTTF generation, then THPS came along and it surged again etc etc. Each time loads of people drop out leaving behind those individuals and companies who are passionate about it. But without those surges in popularity it simply would never have progressed how it did.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  13 дней назад

      @@markg55 I respectfully disagree. Big business never really was invested in skateboarding like it is today, compared to any time you just mentioned. Like with the mainstream narrative, there has never been a worse time to be a straight white male in the sport. It’s embarrassing.

    • @markg55
      @markg55 13 дней назад +1

      @FPVwineUK straight white male, what? Skateboarding being more inclusive and more girls getting involved is absolutely a positive.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  13 дней назад

      @ didn’t even mention girls bro, if you skate take a look in the mirror.

  • @dagalpup1278
    @dagalpup1278 14 дней назад +2

    I don’t think FPV is on borrowed time. If regulations get as strict as some fear, we’ll have bigger issues to worry about because that would signal a dystopian level of control. While flying won’t be as free as it once was-which does suck-I don’t think these changes will make it impossible to enjoy the hobby. Technology advances so quickly that we always find workarounds or loopholes, and laws constantly evolve. If FPV grows in popularity, even with increased regulations, it’s highly unlikely they’ll make it completely inaccessible.
    Think about it: for vehicles, you need a license, and if you’re smart enough to fly a drone properly, getting a license should be just as manageable. RC airplanes and cars have been around for decades with minimal changes in how they’re regulated. I believe the FPV community will have a significant influence on the legal landscape in the future, especially as the hobby becomes more mainstream.
    We’ll still be able to freestyle and have fun. The real question is: will there be legal and illegal ways to fly? Right now, it seems there are options for both. If you’re flying responsibly and legally, you shouldn’t have much to worry about.
    As for commercialization, I see it as a net positive. More people getting into FPV means more innovation, better products, and a stronger community. If certain products don’t appeal to you, that’s fine-just don’t buy them. The real concern is public perception of the hobby. If people confront you for flying in places where you’re legally allowed to, that’s a problem. But honestly, those types of people are just looking for something to complain about.
    At the end of the day, the hobby’s complexity already weeds out casual users, so added regulations won’t scare off serious FPV pilots. With the community’s passion and influence, FPV isn’t going anywhere.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @@dagalpup1278 it’s debatable, but I strongly believe we already exist in that dystopian future. But that is both another conversation and - to add to that point - one that cannot be openly discussed on this platform without seeing restrictions or being banned completely.
      I have hope though in what you’re saying.

  • @nielsB_FPV
    @nielsB_FPV 15 дней назад +1

    4:15 How exactly is skateboarding nowaydays heavely restricted?

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад

      You have to think of this in context to everything, not just the act - which has always been restricted within society. Although skate stoppers have definitely become more prominent.

    • @Robocopter_fpv
      @Robocopter_fpv 14 дней назад +2

      Well… Every single mall, school and most public areas here in LA are littered with “No skateboarding” signs that didn’t used to be here.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад +1

      @@Robocopter_fpv UK bylaws mean if the town has a 'recreational area' for extreme sports, they can ban it in the streets. Street skateboarding, although still possible, is a lot lot harder than 25+ years ago when I started skateboarding.

    • @Robocopter_fpv
      @Robocopter_fpv 13 дней назад +1

      @ban it like outright? You can still skate right? just can’t be on private property or lgovernment property.

  • @Mossinthewoods
    @Mossinthewoods 14 дней назад +2

    Wild. Was literally having this convo with my wife earlier. I've been skating 15 years and can't believe how sterile it's become. It's always been a difficult relationship between being stoked on seeing more people enjoying what you love but equally seeing the commercialization and cultural cleansing which leads to something I don't recognize anymore. Skating was full of all sorts and certainly plenty of scumbags, but god damn wasn't it richer for having them?
    FPV is awesome and scratches some of the itch I have from stopping skating, but I find the RUclipsrs to be so milquetoast.
    I know who you're talking about and find their views to be somewhat similar to a 13-year-old in their parents' house smoking weed for the first time.
    Love the honest thoughts in this video. Seem like you'd be chill to skate a curb with ;)

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @@Mossinthewoods wholesome response. I’ve been making skate content for years over at sk8wine… even had the pleasure of helping the SPoT guys out for 23/24 Tampa Am and Pro! Definitely still felt more skater from 90s vibes!

    • @Mossinthewoods
      @Mossinthewoods 14 дней назад +1

      @FPVwineUK that's rad man. I think we had the last of the best of skateboarding. I don't think fpv needs to grow. We have cheap equipment, loads of high quality troubleshooting resources and people involved are super passionate. Fpv is currently properly meritocratic, the people begging for more to join the hobby don't realise how much of that is lost when inclusiveness becomes the primary aim.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @ 110%

  • @maddercat
    @maddercat 15 дней назад +1

    I think it would be an interesting world where everyone just carries a small fpv drone around with them the same way they carry a phone. I think eventually it will get to be that when things like google/apple glasses become more mainstream and everyone is walking around living in a half virtual world. Being able to have a perspective on your location any time you want it would be a cool accessory.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      @@maddercat I like your dream, but don’t think it’ll be a reality! More like we’ll be able to fly where ever we want in virtual reality 😆

    • @maddercat
      @maddercat 15 дней назад

      @@FPVwineUK We can do that now basically with globexsplore, not really the same.

    • @EdEditz
      @EdEditz 15 дней назад +1

      That would lead to an awfully congested airspace. I hope that won't become reality. :)

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      @ same

    • @richardosborne6464
      @richardosborne6464 14 дней назад +3

      My day bag has three tiny whoops and a Volador vx3.5, pocket radio, loads of batteries, and some Skyzones with WS VRX.... Make it normal!

  • @techdfpv
    @techdfpv 15 дней назад +1

    Just subbed and not because you flew in 90mph winds.. LOL. :). I just started the hobby again early this year this time I have really pushed myself to stick with it and keep getting up after crashing. I'm doing things in FreeStyle I would never have thought I would have been able to do when I had originally tried FPV over 5 years ago. I'm also getting into racing which is what I had originally joined FPV for and have 1 local race under my belt at this time. Enough about me now to comment on your video:
    I see both sides of the argument about more people joining FPV. It’s a double-edged sword for sure.
    On the positive side, more people in the hobby means more demand, which can fuel innovation and competition among businesses. For example, companies like HDZero and others are pushing out better FPV systems because the community is growing. This benefits all of us with better tech and more choices.
    On the flip side, as the hobby grows, there’s always the risk of someone acting irresponsibly, like flying recklessly near airports or over crowds, which can lead to stricter regulations that affect us all. A good example of this was when drones were flown during wildfire operations, grounding fire-fighting planes. These types of incidents can cast a bad light on the entire FPV and drone community.
    At the end of the day, more people in FPV isn’t inherently good or bad-it’s what we as a community do with it that makes the difference.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад

      @@techdfpv that’s great

  • @minimaistor
    @minimaistor 15 дней назад +1

    I don't think more people will make the hobby get more laws than it would either way but I don't see it getting much bigger than it is either.The laws themselves and whether or not to follow them all is its own story.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      @@minimaistor yeah, regardless there will be more laws. It’s like in the UK bad crime is treated like a joke, while social media comments and speeding tickets are prioritised.

  • @jessedanner6694
    @jessedanner6694 14 дней назад +1

    great vid. I agree on both points. I felt the same way when i saw the botgrinder vid.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад +1

      @@jessedanner6694 it says an awful lot about the state of America rn. Especially as making points and talking like a grown up can get you banned on here too!

  • @LarsEchterhoff
    @LarsEchterhoff 15 дней назад +3

    I think you have grown older and your definition of open minded is much wider and broader, than somebody at the barrier to 20.
    I actually also think fpv don't has to grow. I started inline skating in 95 and stocked with it for 2 decades. Aggressive inline skating has never been as popular as skateboarding so to me, the fpv scene feels quite similar. I guess skateboarding has come a long way and has been promoted as cool from the media. Skate boarding has become mainstream. Skate boarding is not a crime. But it is. As well as inline skating. Grinding down ledges and curbs is actually damage to public or private property. Thou I don't know anybody who got charged for it. There is something bad to doing such stuff and upsetting securities but the chance to get fucked hard is limited. Fpv is another breed. The fines for getting caught is waaaay higher and you attract much quicker more people's attention. So for me, used to skate public properties, fpv feels scary. In Germany, I am actually not allowed to blind my natural view with my goggles. I do have so watch my quad line of sight or need another person beside me to spot my quad, otherwise there are fines in case I do upset someone. And those rules are alien to almost everyone including police. And in case of uncertainty, you are fucked, because there is a clear not clear situation where somebody feels scared by the humming sound. Drone warfare did not help in pushing fpv into a friendly hobby zone.
    So. We need people who are educated and able to calmly talk to upset Karen's, police men and just interested bystanders. We do not need stupid assholes who buy a whatever flying toy and scare the shit out of other people or even airborne their toys next to an airport or in the middle of a crowded place. Even if laws allow to do so. It is simply stupid to annoy other people or even put them at risk because everything that falls down the sky is a thread. Even at 100g.
    I don't think DJI will take over fpv but I do think, the more drones are out there, the more shit happens and the more rules will apply. In the end, at a court, they won't care about the difference between a tiny whoop, a 3", a DJI camera drone or a toy. They are same same to them and you will get charged for what ever stupid law you violated. That sucks. That is at least to me the most annoyance with fpv. I feel guilty right before I got my quad into the air and hope I won't annoy anybody who thinks what I am doing is illegal. Skateboard has passed that point looooong time ago.
    But fpv is too much fun and enjoyable for me to leave the hobby. Just some minutes of stick time help me to leave my mind and focus on just flying. Magic.😅

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      Germans follow the rules! It is the same in the UK, but the police are severely stretched these days. They don't even deal with more serious crimes strongly any more. Agreed though.

  • @minimaistor
    @minimaistor 15 дней назад +2

    I believe your pop filter needs to be a bit further from the mic, a closed fist should fit between mic and pop filter.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      @@minimaistor oh man, the pop filter was the least of my worries in this video! Totally missed focus with my vintage lens too! I was also way too close! Lessons constantly learned here.

  • @timlong7289
    @timlong7289 15 дней назад +1

    What is this "community" people keep talking about? I've never met a single other person with a non-DJI drone. As far as I'm concerned, there is no "community"; it doesn't exist. I also watched Ripper's video and I also took issue with it. The assumption seems to be that there is this thing we like, so other people must like it too. No, sorry, no. Just do what you enjoy while you can do it and don't worry about other people.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад

      Depends what country and how much effort you're willing to make. The UK has a solid FPV community.

  • @donegalrediscovered3309
    @donegalrediscovered3309 15 дней назад +1

    I’m only flying FPV for a while .. After flying DJI’s … DJI has helped get a lot into FPV .. I started with a RTF Emax Tiny Hawk kit … Flying for me is the easy part after a good deal of time on liftoff .. What’s the hardest part for me is needing a degree in engineering & learning Betaflight… That’s why a dedicated community will always be small… I personally would have a test for licence before allowing to fly .. as anyone can pick up a drone from a shop without any basic knowledge.. If they cause injury or damage we all suffer as bad optics .
    As for getting more subscribers.. I’d work on your channels name .. It might be some private joke but a lot won’t know what your about & the Algorithm will think your to do with Alcohol & push you down so lose potential viewers 😀👍

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад

      @@donegalrediscovered3309 that’s true… it’s actually whine… and my original channel is sk8wine. Maybe why I’ve never been successful

  • @MoNFPV
    @MoNFPV 14 дней назад +2

    I hate the fact that I didn’t get into FPV until March. Doesn’t seem like there’s much time left to enjoy it.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @@MoNFPV same time coincidentally! Nothing is permanent, enjoy while you can! That’s what I’m doing.

  • @Hempy_oO
    @Hempy_oO 15 дней назад +1

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      Haha never seen that one before

  • @bluefpv3263
    @bluefpv3263 12 дней назад +1

    dji is the enemy of fpv and people dont even get it
    i can see why new people start out with dji since its a familar name and its all over youtube
    i dont care how good the video quality will be with the o4 i will stay with hdzero and analog because its not just about video quality in fpv
    its about the flying for me atleast

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  12 дней назад

      I fly DJI, but it definitely feels like the Nike shoe of skateboarding. Back in the early 00s skaters rejected Nike, they went away for a few years and then came back even harder with all their millions... Swallowing all the shitty skate brands up... Sadly.

    • @bluefpv3263
      @bluefpv3263 12 дней назад +1

      @@FPVwineUK im mean they basically invented digital fpv
      but they are also a predatory giant company that just buys out any competition which will suck in a few years from now
      when the only thing you can buy is shitty 200 $ fpv goggles from dji but they will cost you 800$ cause they can dictate the price without caring about quality anymore since they dont have competion
      oh and you have to buy those every year cause the old ones wont be compatible with the firmware anymore ^^

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  12 дней назад

      @@bluefpv3263 110% believe this will be the case! Exactly as it was for skateboarding.

  • @Robocopter_fpv
    @Robocopter_fpv 14 дней назад +3

    This video is killing the hobby

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад +1

      Ah yes, the classic "killing the hobby" accusation, as if this video has donned a black cloak, slipped into the shadows of our beloved pastime, and stealthily committed a hobbyicide. But let's unpack this, shall we? First of all, I wasn't aware hobbies were so fragile-are they like those old porcelain dolls that crumble to dust if you so much as breathe on them wrong? Because if one video can kill an entire hobby, then maybe the hobby had the structural integrity of a wet napkin to begin with. I mean, are we standing on the precipice of a "Hobby Hunger Games," where every mildly controversial upload sends stamp collecting, bird watching, or competitive ferret grooming to an untimely grave?
      Let’s consider for a moment what this video might have done to earn such a reputation. Did it poison the well of creativity with toxic opinions? Did it unleash a plague of poorly explained tutorials and misguided tips, infecting every corner of the hobby community like some digital pandemic? Or perhaps it’s like a cursed VHS tape: everyone who watches it immediately abandons the hobby to take up extreme knitting or competitive pancake flipping instead.
      And what is the antidote to this apocalyptic hobby-ending menace? Do we all gather in an emergency summit to discuss reparations for the great injustice this video has wrought? Should we form a militia to hunt down and eliminate any future hobby-threatening content? "The League of Hobby Defenders" has a nice ring to it, don’t you think? We’ll wield glue guns, magnifying glasses, and crochet hooks as our weapons.
      But here’s the kicker: if this video really is “killing the hobby,” and you’re still here commenting about it, doesn’t that make you a survivor? Nay, a warrior in the battle to save the hobby? Maybe, just maybe, the hobby isn’t dying but instead evolving, sprouting a second head, or shedding its skin like some kind of mythical chimera. And maybe this video is the misunderstood catalyst, the radioactive spider bite that changes everything for the better-or the worse. Who’s to say?
      In the end, though, hobbies have endured wars, recessions, and the invention of TikTok. If a single video can truly “kill the hobby,” then perhaps we should salute it for exposing the truth that the hobby was a house of cards all along. And if it can’t-well, congratulations, we’re all still here, weirdly passionate about whatever niche pursuit brought us together. Shall we continue?

    • @Robocopter_fpv
      @Robocopter_fpv 14 дней назад +3

      @ haha bruh it was a joke! I guess I should have clarified that 😅.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @ same! I just got chatGPT to respond 😂

    • @Robocopter_fpv
      @Robocopter_fpv 14 дней назад +2

      @@FPVwineUK hahaha amazing!

  • @pineapple_productions
    @pineapple_productions 14 дней назад +1

    too much government interference, but i like the dii transition systems but not the drones

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @@pineapple_productions dii?

    • @pineapple_productions
      @pineapple_productions 9 дней назад

      ​@@FPVwineUK DJI (mb) air units are in my opinion the best transition systems that are legal-in australia (may be diffrent in the uk)

  • @zackoff5803
    @zackoff5803 15 дней назад +1

    Clicks.

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +1

      @@zackoff5803 clicked. 🔋🔌

  • @fetus9958
    @fetus9958 15 дней назад +2

    lol botgrinder

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +3

      @@fetus9958 never heard of her 😉

    • @DRONESSUCK
      @DRONESSUCK 14 дней назад +1

      lol

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  14 дней назад

      @@DRONESSUCK luv u rly bbe 😘

  • @kinkyshae
    @kinkyshae 15 дней назад +3

    im more scared about them being used as one of the most effective weapons in war right now. i think thats gunna cause alot more issues than youtubers doing some questionable drone testing/experiments/stunts

    • @FPVwineUK
      @FPVwineUK  15 дней назад +2

      Yep! Just waiting... However, I hope it is seen the same as how vans have been used in awful circumstances.