Howard Webb and His Apology To Shearer | EP 6
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- Will the fans ever get to hear what’s going on with VAR decisions? Should ex-players be helping referees? And is there really a ‘big club’ bias?
The boys are joined by Howard Webb to discuss all matters referees and VAR. Howard also finally apologises to Alan for his decision that helped relegate Newcastle back in 2009.
00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Apology To Shearer
02:37 - Onana Incident
04:32 - VAR
09:55 - Players as VAR Assistants?
20:00 - Handball Complexities 
Спорт
You guys are taking over RUclips cracking content man 👍👍👍
HWTL
Alreet boys! Do you think wor class lads will get the win tonight?
How much, cash money, did that cost Newcastle?
@@TommyCockles82 take a draw all day
Got 2-2 on my bet slip like
Cracking pod. Really enjoyed Howard Webb. It would be great if he could come out every week and review the weekends fixtures.
Definitely my go to Podcast for premier league. Loving the content so far, really good talk with Howard Webb and refreshing to hear how they want more open dialogue. You should do a Tuesday morning podcast each week with Howard Webb to go through the VAR incidents from the weekend games
The best channel on RUclips right now! Solid conversations all round. Well done lads 👏🏿🔥
What an excellent discussion, such openness and debate can only add to improving the whole VAR environment and application.
This is superb! I thought this would be one of those that just releases 2 minute clips ever other week.. but this is insanely good!
Best podcasty yet. Don't get me wrong there were many times I chocked on my beer though laughing but this is a very important topic. For me VAR for the fans suffers from "You don't know what you don't know" and it was great to hear exactly what the challenges are for them too. I would love to hear that audio broadcasted from the VAR team to the Ref so fans can actually apprieciate what is being discussed instead of the 'silence' that we are currently having right now. Also if the screens at the stadiums also have maybe a extra time countdown for additional Extra time too (as a roungh guide) would be another thing that would be interesting for the fans at the stadiums.
Great content with amazing interaction between you all. I hope you get more guests like this as Howard Webb is very articulate. Plus he pissed off Gary Neville, which is always a good thing in my book 😂
Howard Webb named Chief Ref
When City set out to equal Utd 3peat
Casemiro escaped leg breaker on Akanji
Not allowed to call it Corruption?🤔
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsHoward Webb has been under fergies payroll for the past few decades. 😂
@@colincolin5696 Christ, why bother watching the game if you think its bent. What a div
Absolutely smashing the content, love it!
Didn't know it was the same official from the Brighton Spurs game last year. Howard is so wrong to say his other performances outweigh those egregious mistakes. He shouldn't ever VAR again. Unacceptable incompetence
100% I think the absence of an explanation to why human error by Gary O’Neil where he was yellow carded can’t be rescinded after his team were unfairly beaten by Man U
@@CookingWithPete2022 A refereeing error doesn’t allow a player or manager to show aggression towards an official.
@@rob-c. without the error Gary wouldn't have been aggrieved?
@@rob-c. everyone in football knows referees are match fixing. They are just too protected to be called out. This is why we see aggression towards officials
@@CookingWithPete2022 Blatant incorrect errors with all the cameras and replays are not mistakes. That’s intentionally manipulating results
Excellent podcast, Howard was very open, frank and listened to what was asked, can't ask for more.
Hopefully VAR is going in the right direction.
He wasn’t keen on having ex players in the var box was he lol. I don’t think it’s even possible because of bias which there always will be
Great stuff. Re: the handball rule. Not every handball in the box needs to be a pen, indirect freekicks wouks suffice for the “lesser” offences that don’t directly lead to a goal scoring opportunity.
The default punishment for a handball in the box, as it stands, is a pen, there’s no nuance. Wether it’s a blatant goal line block, or something more innocuous. And that’s where the inconsistencies come in.
… also, just because it’s “accidental” doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be punished, nor should it automatically be a pen.
I feel, almost all handballs should be punished, but it’s finding that nuance, and recognising which handballs are more blatant and would’ve led to goal scoring opportunities Vs say, a handball that’s just flicked up and hit a defender and prevented a speculative cross on the edge of the box, that still needs punished, but not in the same way a goal line clearance from a defender using their hand, would need punished.
One of the hardest things to do is give a red card for an accidental handball DOGSO. I don't think it should be a red in most cases, but a handball DOGSO is an automatic red so it has to be given.
A handball SPA in the box on the other hand is a yellow.
Just complicate it more. What is the bar for an indirect free kick or a pen
@@g-e9513 only goalkeepers committing handball offences result in an IDFK. Everything else is direct/ penalty.
The biggest VAR error last weekend was the disallowed goal at goodison. Not the disallowed penalty at old Trafford. But again because it was at old Trafford it gets more attention. But all the pundits on MOTD agreed the Everton should have stood and there was no foul, but it’s all about the Utd game again!
100%. The goal at goodison just isn’t mentioned. The amount of var “mistakes” but more like var isn’t even used for Everton games is shocking.
You can see Atwell did that deliberately as well...he was watching the ball roll into the goal as he blew. Denied VAR to protect himself.
Never thought I'd see this level of openness and honesty from officials. I appreciate it and respect it. There is room for improvement in the wording and implementation of the rules, but to see this openness from Howard, I just thought we'd never see it. It's going in the right way. Finally.
Have an hour show each week on a Tuesday where all the big VAR points from the weekend are shown with the conversations that were had. Fans would soon get the hang of why things were checked and why other things weren’t checked. Someone from Howard Webb’s team goes through any controversial ones. Maybe a fan Q&A for 5 minutes at the end each week.
If there’s a week with not many decisions, go through some of the training etc. Or once every two weeks or a month if weekly is overkill.
He set that up in the US. Google "inside video review". He wants the same and more here.
They won’t tho, refs are too protected
With VAR nowadays there is no "mistake". When something is that clear,and you have every replay at your disposal, it isn't a mistake,it's just a disgrace. It's sad to see a tool like VAR,which could solve 90% of football refering problems,being "misused" in such extend, and then give excuses talking about "mistakes". These points can cost Wolses top flight football or dictate who gets ucl football,maybe harming significantly a team,in case odf relegation, just because a guy doesn't want to give a pen against United,a pen 99% of simple fans,even United ones,can clearly see its a penalty...
It's quite sad,when VAR was introduced I thought these clear infuriating decisions would eclipse,but after 3 years of VAR hearing "We try to do our best",messing up decisions 99% of the fans no matter their team can make right,it's just scandalous...
i assume you wrote a similar essay when wolves got away with the exact same thing against leeds lasts season? you wouldn't be this butthurt cause its man utd and you wanted them to drop points, no its cause you care about wolves PL future
😂😂 Hated, Adored, Never Ignored
Casimiro got sent off last year which everyone including my dog could see wasn’t a red. You win some you lose some it normally equals out. I thought it was a pen on the first look I didn’t need to see a replay and if it was against Utd I would of wanted it. Luckily this time we got lucky but watch they will level it up in the next couple games.
@@IanElkinsThat’s the whole point, there shouldn’t be any of this ambiguity at the highest level of football.
@@IanElkinsnever forget ur disgraceful offside interference goal from rashford and bruno against us
@@we5t5id3gunn I don’t think I could forget it Man City and Liverpool fans mention it every other sentence but like I said above you win some you lose some and always the supporter on the ‘wrong’ side of whatever decision will always be pissed off and it will always live in the brain as proven by this one.
Why not just stop the clock for a max of 2mins.
Tv partners will be happy for ads time.
Refs have time to get decision right.
Players can take a breather, maybe reduce injuries.
Gaffers can fix tactics.
Show the replay on big screen in stadiums so live fans can know what is going on.
Still can’t get why this doesn’t happen
Ex players would still make mistakes though. As Howard said, they showed a penalty incident to a group of players and it was 50/50 whether it was a pen or not.
Human error will always be a factor until we get to completely automated refereeing
Really enjoyed this. easily the best football podcast available now.
Loving All Your Episodes So Far Some Good LOL😂 Moments The Best Channel On RUclips At The Moment Hosted By 3 Great Legends 👍🏾 Thanks For The Entertainment Please Keep Them Coming.😊
Always articulate and now being more transparent, well done Howard. VAR and ref'ing are two very different skillsets and thus not being a Ref should not restrict VAR employment.
And what about the yellow card shown to Gary?
Many thanks to you and especially Howard I think we are going in the right direction 👍
Great show again guys well done and keep it up!
Is there a big club bias? Generally it's just mind blowing incompetency/inconsistency, except for at Old Trafford where the bias is obvious. Lost count of the number of times the other night when the Wolves players let it run out thinking it would be their corner or throw in only for it to be given the other way. Having decisions like that go against you every five minutes can really mess you up.
Why would there be a particular bias at Old Trafford? Is it more likely you are biased against United and a decision that goes with United stays in your mind more than decisions that go against United?
@@jmk1233 I love watching United play, but seriously it's every game at Old Trafford.
If you look back over the the 3 seasons(or more) there has been a blatant incorrect decision every single week. That’s too many not to be suspicious… this season we are 1 for 1 as well
This is a perfect podcast 👏🏽👏🏽
Great to see Howard engaging with fans👍👍
Belgium doesn't have the best waffles. These referees do.
Fantastic work by all!
Thank you for the explanation and apology. As a Wolves fan, it's appreciated, but in these cases, would awarding a point to teams in this position be the fair thing to do, due to a wrong decision?
Also, what about refs explaining the reason for their decisions on the pitch? In American football it helps. And finally, why doesn't the ref just walk over to the monitor each time, rather than wait for VAR to tell them to do that? It could be that the ref sees something they missed in real time.
No guarantee the penalty would be scored, look at Watford vs Leicester when Deeney scored that incredible goal after Leicester penalty. They just can't award points that haven't been won through passage of play.
And that may work because the decision was late in the game. What if happened in the first minute? The whole game would be different.
No, not right, IMHO. Webb's return has been characterised by some truly 'remarkable' failings in the officiating. Who knew.
13 minutes of micah being silent has to be a record lol....love the show lads top stuff
Howard Webb and his team have been abysmal so far, well done 👏🏼
Well Howard was abysmal himself so wouldn’t expect anything other than this.
Brilliant pod boys, keep going
Brilliant podcast brilliant subject to cover.
Surely withdraw the yellow card for O’Neil
Great stuff fellas ! Love it
Love the content. And greet for Howard to be open about stuff. Still don't get why at Monday's incident the ref wasn't sent to the monitor. If he is allowed to reject the opinion of the var at that point he should have been given the chance.
Because the var ref agreed with the on field refs decision so there was nothing to show.
Football just needs to follow the Rugby approach - Refs deserve more support/time and more respect in Football.
The Refs also need to be OK with their on field decision being overruled if need be - take the egos out of it.
Howard Webb speaks really well about this and clearly knows how it should be. Would be a good edition on MOTD to discuss these calls on the day
Great shuff guys love the videos nice to see a video where big lungs didn't mention he played for Barcelona 😂😂
My question would be what did he see differently not to give the penalty. When it looked so clear. Discuss that with him and refer back to the public why he made his decision. That would complete the circle of understanding for everyone.
I am a Brighton STH - top 6 bias does exist - but i don’t think it is corruption etc but is more to do with the fact that on a subconscious level referees know the huge media scrutiny they will be under making a controversial or brave decision against a top 6 clubs. It is not just the big decisions (like penalties etc) but the incidents that are completely forgotten about - so i don’t blame referees but i do blame the media for their top 6 obsession
I think that’s a mature view of it. I wouldn’t blame the media either. The whole point is winning, so it’s natural for neutrals to focus on the top of the table; and if they want more viewers, it’s natural to focus on the biggest fan bases.
It’s a problem and I’m curious about solutions. I’d only “blame” media if there’s some potential regulation that would fix it. Otherwise, I think you can’t fix problems by telling people to going against what’s natural for them
@@ian-flanagan i don’t think there is any easy solution unfortunately-
It’s funny because as a Liverpool fan I always get the impression when refereeing at Anfield refs come with the mindset of ‘not being influenced by the crowd’ and it ends up going the other way and bias towards the away team, especially when it’s a smaller club. I guess we all have confirmation bias in a way.
@@tomgreen3806 that is an interesting point. As you say we all have our bias - and maybe it does even itself out. Totally different subject - i hope Mac Allister does well for you guys (though not in the games against us!) he is a great player and also a great team player - he will always be loved here in Brighton. Still can’t get my head around Caicedo choosing Chelsea over Liverpool - to link back up with Mac Allister would of made Liverpool serious favourites for PL this year .
It's really difficult to suggest referees aren't biased after this leading referee, had a job in the top flight for over a decade (2003-2014), says that he wanted Newcastle to do well after his poor decision. That specifically impacts the rest of the game no matter what the context is. If Fulham later had a 50/50 foul, would Webb want to give it Fulhams way? I doubt it. This is why VAR is so important. They're supposed to give a relatively objective view of a foul without being subject to the noise of the fans, the interpersonal relationships with the players beforehand and throughout the game, as well as just having a different opinion. VAR should be the overruling body, not the incredibly influenced referee on the pitch. E minor fouls last season, fa cup final where casemiro stamps into akanjis leg and akanji ends up getting the yellow, are important for VAR to intervene in. It should take a collective 5-10 seconds to review something with the technology available and the amount of referees adjudicating.
Not trying to be a jerk, but a game in which the team the ref was pulling for lost and were later relegated is not a good example of refereeing bias.
@@joshuaworden274 you're not being a jerk at all. But is it not the perfect example of referee bias? The head of the referee's association and one of if not the leading referee over the 2000s era of the premier league, has admitted to hoping for a result within a game he adjudicates? The result is almost entire irrelevant, the fact that such a prestigious referee has those inclinations means that it will filter through to every other referee to an even greater extent. Just because Fulham didn't win the game and go onto win the league doesn't matter. He is specifically altering the game with an influenced view on each and every challenge
It's not an example of bias because neither the initial decision nor any other decisions against Newcastle were based on wanting a particular outcome. He simply made a mistake. All he said was that he hoped his decision did not ultimately cost Newcastle. He did not subsequently make a decision in another game that he hoped would subsequently favour Newcastle. If he had, that would be an example of bias.
I agree with your views specifically on VAR though and the example of the situation involving Akanji.
Even to have the person on VAR to have the final say wouldn't stop bias. Just look at Mac allister getting a straight red. Who was VAR? Yup the man who has had a problem with klopp the past couple of seasons in Paul Tierney.
Personally I think grounds should have screens now to show the replay to the on field ref and being mic'd up like in rugby
They really can't win can they. They are human beings. Lots of factors will come into their decisions. Just accept both the players and the officials are not infalable and you will find everyone enjoys the game more. Its incredible how the focus is so much on officials rather than the players.
so what i took away from this is the following:
yes, there is a 'big 6' bias, in so much as the QUALITY of decisions that go in favour of the 'big 6' is significantly more impactful than the 'lesser' clubs, however due to statistical averages 'it works itself out overall' meaning that the VOLUME of decisions against 'big 6' teams allows for a comparable average to the 'lesser' teams.
not enough money has greased the palms of people in charge of broadcasting games which is the primary reason as to why the VAR audio isn't broadcast live to fans so that everybody can be on the same page when it comes to consistency.
it seems like massive incompetance is only mildly punished and will only be actioned against if it becomes too much of a hassle to deal with on a regular basis.
that's my summary of what was said in response to the questions asked.
Great interview, only extra issue I would’ve liked to have seen talked about is decisions purely being made on slow motion replays.
Agreed. Everything seems more deliberate and forceful when slowed down. VAR should exist to give the ref the view he would gotten had he been positioned elsewhere, but nothing more. VAR should model itself like a game was reffed by 12 referees opposed to an all seeing God.
Not going to mention the Everton game against Fulham last week where the ref blew the whistle just as Keane finishes, denying VAR the chance to give us the goal? Clearly no foul by Tarkowski.
Interesting cast chaps! 👏👏👏
Brilliant podcast!!
I passed by Referees exam in Newcastle’s St James’ Park in February 1963. Would not sell my soul to go higher. Sadly they are all employed by the Premier League, so honesty or integrity. Never liked him or Winter of Smog land. Trying to think who was the goon in 1976 who stated what we would do in certain circumstances yet in the League Cup Final, he did what he said would never do. Sadly all bent now.
Great stuff guys
Most players don't know the rules so why they always think they'd be good ref's I don't know. Howard Webb talks a lot of sense, I definitely appreciate the scoreboard in the ground going past 90 mins, I had no idea the clubs were prevented from doing this before.
Funny how the decision was wrong in favour of a Top Six Club, in front of 50K+ Man Utd fans and millions of ManU fans more watching on TV around the globe, eight minutes into injury time and Man Utd probably losing two points if a penalty is given?
Advertisers, sponsors and merchandise sellers don't want most of their viewers switching off in anger as soon as the final whistle is blown.
Had that been Sa on Rashford with Wolves 1-0 up, there would have been a penalty given straightaway without VAR. FACT.
Best football podcast ever!
I think there are 3 types of handball.
1. Deliberate.
2. Accidental
3. Goalie picks up from a pass back.
Seems odd to me that we see penalties given for 1 and 2. Yet the rule for 3 results in an indirect free kick even though the offence is arguably more in line with a deliberate handball.
Deliberate handball should be a penalty.
Accidental handball should be an indirect free kick, in the same way the pass back to goalie rule is applied.
Obviously ball to hand should always be ignored.
That’s how I see handballs being made fairer.
🔥 episode ⚽️
Great show
Webb, good ref, top politician. No answers, no change
Makes sense you can’t have players assisting live VAR games because most players don’t know the laws of the game in detail. There are so many incorrect myths about laws that players believe. You have to be an experienced referee who knows the laws. It makes sense.
That’s a big one for me - the question asked at 23:00 - rugby league has explained the decision making process for years. Never understood why football doesn’t do it
And - the decision should be communicated via the screen - not by the ref pointing his arm. It’s too ambiguous. You can’t argue or be confused by clear text on the screen
I was at Brentford vs spuds and with 11 minutes added time in the first half the clock continuing to run was so much better.
So how's it going, Howard ?
Two weeks in and already several highly contentious decisions, an apology and a red card rescinded for disgraceful misuse of the VAR system
The standard of officiating and application of VAR in this country is atrocious
Great question by Alan shearer👏👏 caught Webb out saying the var guy is good 😅😅
As a United fan, had the ref on the field given the penalty I'd have had no complaints. However, I can see why VAR didn't overturn it because the action didn't prevent the ball being played and didn't prevent a goal scoring opportunity. Now, if the ref had been given a second look at the monitor and then awarded the penalty, again I'd have no complaints. I'm in favour of the on-field referee making the decisions.
Great content
Lovely guy comes across really well. The handball situation is tricky, as like Howard says, they can't win with it.
Personally I just think the decision should be based on the VAR footage in real time. As in slow motion all the handballs look deliberate, and penalties are always issued. So let's not watch is slo mo as that distorts the reality of the situation. That's what bothers me the most.
Howard pulled up individual situations to explain his theory of “things leveling out over the course of a season” in terms of top 6 bias, this tells me everything
I do love the painting behind your head Gary! Any info??
Never thought I’d say this but I think Howard Webb is doing a good job. Yeah there are still improvements to be made but at least he’s transparent. I’m going to take a shower now! 🤨
Will he release the communications between the referee and VAR for the penalty for Wolves against Man United ?
It's amazing how theres so much uproar around that decision to not give wolves a pen at old trafford but absolutely nothing about the penalty decisions that united didnt get for handball in that game, and then against spurs this weekend.
Hell that wolves one happens so often in other games, doesnt get a pen and nothing is said about it whatsoever
Belta this podcast!!!
I respectfully disagree with the comment on minute 7. If its 50/50 send the ref to the monitor to give perspective and he can make a correct and informed decision.
So why is Tierney, who has issues with Klopp & Liverpool, still working this coming weekend when he got the Macalister sending off wrong whilst on VAR???
We had two sides of the coin over the first round of matches, Sonny gave away a penalty when var got involved in what wasn’t a clear mistake by the referee and then Wolves didn’t get a penalty when var didn’t get involved in what was a clear mistake by the referee.
Accountability! Yet at the game this weekend Newcastle V Liverpool, it is the very same VAR ref that failed to call out the error of the red card to Mac Allister that has consequently now been overturned. Go figure 🤔
A question for Alan. Does he think that players or ex-players are well versed in the LOTG? As a ref, in my experience, most players do not understand the law relating to at least 1 decision per game. Would he agree that they should undergo the same learning of the laws that refs have to, because to be honest, that's the biggest part of reffing.
I still play 5 a side football with friends and it is so frustrating how little others understand the laws. Honestly, they're fans of the big 6 or other Premier League teams and they're so distanced from what is or isn't an offence, it's laughable.
Personally, I'm behind Howard 100%, because the IFAB make life tough for everyone and if he can shed light on the process and how complex the laws can be, to fans, commentators, pundits, viewers - football will be a much more united community.
Im surprised Howard Webb didnt arrive in his Man United outfit
How predictable…and still unfunny
Problem you would have with ex football players being officials is the bias they would have. Imagine Gary Neville making decisions at a Arsenal/Liverpool game.
I'd like to know how they plan on dealing with goals from a corner where the corner was won from an offside phase of play that was allowed to continue.
If you think about it, there really shouldn’t be any issue. That action is not leading directly to a goal because the defending team has a chance to clear the ball it’s the same as foul been given on a player outside the box that was off side.
@@deriobamba yes, and that's also an issue IMO
VAR is shocking. Happily go back without video.
The VAR would be good if some of the practices are changed.
Firstly the lines for offside must be broadened to the level that we all can see it with our eyes from a still picture. Now great build-up play leading to superbly executed goals can be taken away by a marginal offside. It is not morally right. The marginal offsides are killing the game.
Secondly to give "light" penalty kicks after a minor or slight contact to the legs, and also after a non intentional hand ball (when the arm is not raised just before the shot), are against the sense of justice, and therefore are also killing the game.
The matches nowadays are so fast moving, that you can not punish for some slight and unintentional incidents, as well as not being some "centimeters" offside.
If you can not celebrate anymore after a goal has been scored, it will be anticlimax.
Change these practices when using the VAR in the Premier League. Then it could be beneficial. Now it is more causing anger than good things.
If changing the practices needs consulting and operating with UEFA, or even FIFA, do it.
For handballs and fouls the footage should only be played back in real time. Slow mo and freeze frames lie about the intention and force used. VAR should be used to provide the ref the view he would have gotten if hed been stood elsewhere on the pitch, but not godlike perceptions
The far bigger crime was Atwell at Everton-Fulham. He deliberately chose to circumvent VAR by blowing his whistle as Keanes shot was rolling toward the goal. An honest ref would have waited and used VAR to analyse the validity of a goal, but he chose to protect himself by blowing free kick, after the fact, meaning VAR can't get used. If that isn't evidence of deliberate corruption? You can see his thoughts on the replay and hear exactly when he chose to blow up. That this both happened, went unpunished and largely unmentioned is disgusting.
The VAR check on Monday was over WAY too quickly in my opinion! Seemed more important to trot over and book O'Neil....
I actually think to make the most of VAR and only care about the decision being made. You should take a more scientific process and make it have less interaction between VAR and on field ref. Make it a double blind system. My proposal is this:
1- have 3 clear people where Var has no comm with ref
2- ref make decision
3- There is a video analyst who collates all video replays who passes replays to an independent person
4- this person doesnt know the decision the ref has made and watches the replays cold and can ask the video analyst only for more info
5- he makes what he thinks the decision should be if any
6- that decision is displays along side the ref decision on the big screen
7- on field ref can make a decision to stay or look at the video replays var has seen but no comminication allowed with var
This makes the decision independant and gone through a checking process with no undue influence from var making a decision anchored from a ref decision.
Might take a big longer but i think is much a better system than what it is in place.
20 years of excuses for no penalty vs man utd
VAR isn't the issue, it's the incompetency of officials who should not be making these mistakes by now
Surely they should show the replays on the screen at the game when it goes to var so we know what we’re looking at, can’t believe United and Liverpool haven’t been forced to put screens in their grounds yet, two biggest in the country and the only two without screens, embarrassing
I think no penalties anymore but a free kick, wherever the player stands who touches the ball with the hand
Where’s the interview regarding the clear penalty United didn’t get against spurs? Or is that not the same talking point?
Shearer looked seething all the way through that interview 🤣
Why do we need stockley park when we have a fourth official and a unused pitchside monitor?🤔
when will we hear the on field REF having a conversation with VAR
Like in cricket, both teams get 3 reviews through which they can challenge a decision made by the referee. An idea football can adapt.
Howard saying ex players don't wanna be part of the vat hub is ridiculous tbh. Danny Murphy for one has on multiple times offered his services to help give advice on decisions etc.
The wolves one was so obvious that’s my issue with this. Why is it a foul outside the box but never in Man Utd’s penalty area?
Just scrap VAR - the beautiful game has been ruined.
Great podcast
On the Arsenal Tomiyasu sending off, so how does a player get booked for time-wasting, correct me if I'm wrong now youve made your point that you'll be adding on all the time the ball is out of play, no time is actually wasted ?? any player booked for time wasting implies the ref is not doing his job of time keeping, the rules cancel each other out, poor guy misses half the game and misses the next game for taking 8 seconds for a throw. all because a ref either apparently can't work a stopwatch correctly or picks and chooses what time he wants to add on, yet more inconsistencies incoming or I guess every keeper will be suspended at some point this season.
Brilliant but remember it's your podcast no need to bleep anything keeps its more organic and real
Personally I feel that going to the pitch side monitor should be recommended in the event that the VAR feel the decision should be made by the on field referee