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I bet it's because if you have a well tuned antenna, why would you need to pay for RUclipsTV? Corporations being corporations. People need to get their power back!!
We really lost a lot when we lost analog. I grew up half way between Green Bay and Milwaukee. We got everything from both cities. With digital, friends still there cannot get stations from either city. Forced into first cable and satellite. Now steaming or just RUclips for news. Congress sold us our to the phone companies money. At least the democrats forced the free converter boxes. Who figures out how to force digital repeaters will be a hero to everyone. And for Tyler, that is no Bla Bla Bla. ;-)
NTSC really had no technical way to cleanly add DRM. ATSC made DRM easier, but technology from the 1990s limited the bandwidth on ATSC making DRM a waste of time. ATSC 3.0 was designed around DRM.
@@thedude5040 NTSC had Analog Rights Management of sorts, more commonly known as scrambling. Look up Super TV and SelecTV. You couldn’t watch and listen unless you rented a set top box from the company. It didn’t end up doing very well. I think Tyler has a video on it.
I’m so sick of hearing “…don’t worry, we’re still in the early stages off rollout…” when clearly the fix has been in from the very start of the standards development. ATSC 3.0 was supposed to address, among other things, the poor modulation choice that had been made with ATSC 1.0 (there were better options back then), but then they turn around and make horrible codec and DRM selections with no enforceable policy to keep the fox from guarding the hen house. People need to be a lot more realistic about how bad this really is. People should be angry! These are OUR public airwaves and access is being stripped away with every new standard. But I don’t see the outcry there should be, so maybe there just isn’t enough interest and we should roll over and let the remaining TV spectrum go to the telecom companies for cellular data service, etc. I certainly don’t see the type of course corrections that are needed at this late stage to keep OTA alive with the younger demographic.
Sadly after my station turned on ATSC 3.0 with DRM they also decided the switch ATSC 1.0 to a smaller tower of a sister station and now I can't get it and they don't seem to care. Thank you for talking about this issue.
I talked to the station manager of my local TV station to ask him about the upcoming ATSC 3.0 and DRM. He called me a "freeloader" because I use an antenna and am paying nothing to help pay the bills that the station has to keep the signal on the air. He said it's coming that you antenna people won't get a signal anymore when the tower is shut down but they will still use satellite for cable and dish people. They don't care.
@@trainmaster0217 Your seeing commercials on that OTA station, right? So you ARE paying your share. What a horrible response. It's worth noting that while some have that attitude, some do not. When I complained about reception from a local station a few months ago, they sent out a representative to investigate. He did his own signal checks and actually loaned me an antenna to try! Very responsive attitude. The real issue was multipath signals in the backyard due to trees. I substituted my high gain antenna for a low gain Channel Master mud flap antenna, found the best signal on the side of the house and taped it there. Problem solved. When I complained about signal interference on distant PBS station, I got crickets. Turned out that was due to the solar storm and the reception returned to normal a few days later. So it seems some companies are willing to work with your over-the-air issues and some are not. Interesting times for sure.
You're right, antennas are making a comeback. I grew up with a dad that owned a tv repair shop in the 70s and had my share of antenna installs. I retired from audio/visual installs, etc. It amazed me, even with people my age (in my 60s) that were no longer aware of over-the-air, as if it vanished when cable appeared. I always advised them that they could have it along with streaming when I did an install of surround sound, speakers, stuff like that. Many times I'd ask them if they knew they had an antenna in the attic. Often, they had either forgot about it or moved in with it there and I would hook it up and it was like they just discovered fire. I grew up in a time when home pro football games were black out. During the Cowboy-49ers 1971 blacked out championship game we ran a flat lead to our aluminum screen door and brought in the game. It was a bit snowy, but we loved it.
Thanks again for being our advocate again the bad things in ATSC 3.0! It was a great presentation! I look forward to seeing you and Lon in a future FCC hearing on our behalf! Keep up the good work!
Very well put together presentation Tyler! You're a better public speaker than you probably believe you are. Keep up the great things you do being our OTA advocator! -Kirk
Me too, used to get all channels in our region on ATSC1 with our HDHomerun, ATSC3.0 and DRM have made it obsolete and I refuse to buy an ATSC3.0 capable device until the DRM mess has been sorted out.
I bought one too. Still like the HDHR though. But I talked my sister into spending $500 more to get a TV that was ATSC 3.0 ready to correct her marginal reception issues. The result was that they put ATSC 3.0 on a low power transmitter so her ATSC 1.0 signals were still better, and on top of that, they added DRM! She still asked me, "So tell me again why I spent so much for this TV?" Yep, THAT burned me.
You did a great job Tyler. In my opinion, the local TV station owners are using DRM with ATSC 3.0 as a last ditch effort to keep people paying for cable or satellite TV for access to local TV channels. They don't care if people are dropping cable and satellite TV, because they know they can increase the retransmission cost to cable and satellite TV providers to make up for the loss.
I have studied public speaking for years, and your talk was very good on all points. Effective introduction, material fit to the audience, good pace, enunciation, sentence structure, modulation and tone. You have a distinct lack of "word whiskers" (ahhh, uhhh, well then, ahem, sooooo, mmmmmm). Main points made clear. Good use of visual aids. And an effective conclusion. Well done!
That was a great presentation. You conveyed everything that needed to be touched upon about OTA's future in just under a half-hour. I wish the FCC commissioners could be forced to watch this so they would understand the concerns of those of us who still watch free TV. Please keep up the good fight.
I loved to hear your passion of television antennas!! I shared the same passion. My mom and dad would drive down a street and comment, "Oh look, isn't that a pretty house and nice yard. I'd be staring at their TV antenna on the roof. We may be a small group but there are others who share that same passion. In fact we often wondered, "Is it illegal to stare at an antenna on a private home?" Amusing yes, but seriously, antennas were like automobiles. There were many styles and models, and some were quite impressive. "Hey, look at that one!!" Today that passion STILL exists but now those kids are amateur radio operators. And yes, they can STILL talk antennas all day long!
Excellent presentation, Tyler. One thing I've found rather frustrating is that most antennas that are described as VHF/UHF are VHF-HI/UHF, leaving out the VHF-LO band completely. I recently had a VHF-LO (ch. 3) channel launch in my area, and my Channel Master STEALTHtenna wouldn't pick it up, even though I'm less than 15 miles from the transmitter. Replaced it with a Winegard YA7000C, and I was in business. To your remarks about people putting up an antenna, running a scan and not getting much (or nothing at all); I think the same thing applies to the right antenna. Not just junk antennas, but if a high-quality antenna won't pick up all 3 bands, people may not be getting everything available to them.
Great presentation Tyler! So our Hisense u8k randomly lags on encrypted ATSC 3.0 channels but 1.0 channels has no lagging. They are making the experience horrible even if the tv can decode it!
Wow Tyler! Mr Bigtime talking at a big event like the NATVC! You've come a long way from being the gangly kid installing outdoor antennas on roofs in rural PA!
Nice presentation, Tyler. You took just the right tone on two big issues: 1) increasing awareness among younger generations about free OTA TV, and 2) limiting access to x.1 stations by implementing DRM encryption when end user technology wasn't readily available to decode signals sent over the public airwaves. It didn't sound like a rant, and I suspect your points were well received. Time to take the message to the large industry players.
The main issue why younger viewers (older chidren, teens, and young adults) have less of an interest in over-the-air content is due to there being nothing particularly interesting for them. Only animated content as of now on antenna TV is boring preschool slop on PBS Kids and occasionally reruns of Family Guy very late at night on The CW. Thankfully things will change once MeTV Toons comes to be!
Thank you, Tyler, you truly are the only person fighting for our air-wave rights. This talk was great, hopefully the station operators take your advice and begin to see the value of traditional media utilizing newer media to extend its presence instead of erasing it. All it takes is one TikTok trend to go viral and all of a sudden Columbo is cool for some reason.
Excellent presentation, very well done. I started listening and had to finish. Great job. The FCC needs to create rules that limits DRM/Encryption on OTA frequencies. This has to happen before ATSC 1.0 is turned off to free up bandwidth. 1. No DRM allowed on live broadcasts filmed within 150 miles of the transmitter. Covers local sports teams and other local events. Outside of the local area, the broadcasts can be on the pay DRM channel. 2. No local news broadcasts can be behind DRM. Priority for broadcast licenses will go to stations that create their own local news broadcasts for at least 3 hours per day. Not allowed to use a national news broadcast as their local broadcast. A lower bidder gets the license if they commit to more local programming. 3. Must carry minimum 1 non-DRM channels per frequency channel. Priority for licenses for stations that commit to more non-DRM channels. How many DRM and non-DRM channels will be defined in the license. A DRM channel is free to switch to non-DRM at any time. A non-DRM channel can never have DRM. 4. The non-DRM channel has to have a minimum bandwidth allocation that can support a spec of 4k broadcasts/audio. This needs to be defined. Then the rest of the bandwidth can be used for the sub channels. 5. 1st time showings of any new TV shows or movies (less than 5 years old, no longer in theaters) must be on the non-DRM channel before it can be on the DRM channel. No bypassing by using subsidiaries or companies owned by the same corporation. 6. Non-DRM channel must have a mix of content broadcasting 24/7. 7. Priority licenses for stations that show at least 3 hours of Saturday morning educational cartoons for kids (because why not). They can then use the DRM channel for live broadcasts outside of the local area, on-demand, catalog playlists, movies still in theaters, and then for anything else. This can be their competition to online streaming without destroying the free non-DRM OTA. They also need to clearly define that people are allowed to have their own personal dedicated antenna and have as long of a "cord" that they want, this is to ensure it is legal for people with their own local antenna, DVRs/tuners to use remotely when traveling for personal use and they are free to pay a 3rd party company to manage their personal system for them.
The FCC currently has no rules. Everyone, individually needs to contact your representative to keep the television band open and free. Fact is, the FCC won't just step in unless the consumer requests it. But don't get your hopes up! Even if the FCC agrees to new rules for our bands, the major media businesses don't have to use these bands and are most likely already planning to leave them if they can't use DRM. Part of the problem is that people are willing to spend money on subscription fees ALONG WITH watching advertising. That started back in the 60's with Cable TV. That shifted the entire business market platform so that stations on just an OTA advertising budget alone can't really survive. If the FCC had some rules to keep our television band DRM free, that would result in a huge band of just shopping channels. I counted 10 shopping channels in my area so far. Media owners may just decide in the near future to stream everything with a subscription and leave OTA television to just shopping channels. I was watching one of the new OTA News channels, which had a special "shopping channel segment." Really? Many of the major morning programs are doing this as well. Guess a lot of people enjoy shopping channels!! Which to me is sad. I saw this coming back in the 70's when everyone hopped on the "subscription" (cable) bandwagon. People ripped down their antennas, which they thought were ugly and lugged them happily to the curb, as the cable companies continually increased their subscription bills!! When the bills started to hurt, I suggested to my Aunt that I could free her from that cable bill shackle with an antenna so I put one up on her roof. Oh, it was a thing of great beauty to me!!! Huge and massive with so many elements you couldn't count them! Great reception, except it required a rotor. She drove up stepped out of the car and shrieked!!! WHAT IS THAT THING ON MY ROOF, TAKE IT DOWN!!! When she learned that she also had to "rotate the antenna" she blew a 50 amp fuse and went back to paying cable. Look at the generation of 20 and 30 year olds and you'll see, first hand that OTA television, as we know it, is doomed. The younger generation generally has NO interest in OTA television. They are NOT going to mess with positioning antennas. They will never use a rotor, period, nor will they mess with those antique style cable boxes either! They will use their $25 streaming devices for everything they watch. Networks will move their content to subscription streaming services only. It will happen almost overnight in the near future. People will use their Roku, Google TV or Fire TV stick as their new wireless "cable TV" service, and OTA television as we know it today will be officially dead, except for shopping channels. The FCC is really powerless to control this transition, even if they wanted to. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Great presentation. I'm not as versed as you in the specifics of RF and its transmission/reception (I need to study up on that), but I've turned quite a few neighbors on to OTA television with antennas, even helped an elder neighbor couple get rid of their junky "super-duper HD-specific" antenna for a better one that's slightly more expensive but gives them far more channels and better picture quality. Keep up the good work in spreading the "gospel" of antennas!
Couple of things to consider. Transmitting with a license vs. streaming maintains a stations business indepedence. Hooking their wagon to an internet provider for streaming puts the internet provider in control of their business, vs the independence they have with current broadcasting. Also, in an emergency, the internet will fail, but broadcasting will always be possible. It's in our nations best interest to keep unencrypted broadcasting available for wide spread distribution of information when disasters occur.
Good job! Watched your entire presentation. It's very frustrating how blind those companies/tv stations are, instead of listening to their viewers and make the transition a positive one. Something tells me they don't give a *** until their revenues from cable tv is gone or significantly reduced. So many other countries have switched to h264 and eac3 audio just to save space and broadcast more channels. But let's be honest, this is America where most people don't care to pay $100/month to watch 5 channels. The good thing is that the new generation don't want to pay that much, so I think cable tv as we know it is on it's way out, and these tv networks are partially to blame for it.
Excellent presentation! You hit the nail on the head. If broadcasters do not care about their viewers, they will loose the viewers to streaming and they won't get them back.
Thanks, Tyler. I'm very impressed with your presentation and happy that it is very balanced as to the pros/cons of ATSC 3.0 and not another propaganda tool by the industry. Hopefully they are listening. I think it is a waste of money to upgrade my TVs or even my TABLO knowing they might be obsolete. I can't afford to buy new hardware over and over again. I'm committed to OTA tv with some streaming supplement. Cable had a chance to fix the problem and just ignored us.
Thank you, that’s a great presentation for coming up with good solutions to preserving OTA broadcast television! Not only you’ve provided interesting facts on why OTA needs to be saved, you’ve also suggested the advantages of OTA in the digital streaming television age, and how it should better evolve and the robust technology for the consumer than streaming services like Netflix, that streaming services are monetizing viewers with price hikes, while OTA is free for viewers!
I have a ClearStream Max-V from Antennas Direct, thanks to a review of it on this channel. It has a claim of a 60 mile range, and I live about 50 miles north of Boston, It does pick up all the Boston channels, so I'm happy.
Wow you are on fire! Love this presentation, so loose and relaxed, I picture you hanging on the edge ot the podium, just riffin with your knowledge! Super helpful information and overview of where we're at! Keep up this delivery style!
I am a subscriber to your RUclips channel. You are an accomplished speaker. No Engineering degree, but wise where it counts; you would make a fantastic FCC Commissioner, with a fresh insight (yes, in my dreams, I realize). H.R. 3501 never made it out of Committee, and you are the first person I have come across that convinces me that an FCC Commissioner with his/her own technical degree might not be necessary after all.
Thank you for the information. I get 65 channels on my antenna. I got it on Antenna's Direct and have a signal booster. I run 2 TV's off one antenna and get better pictures than when I had expensive cable. I live an hour north of Bakersfield, and a 75 minutes south of Fresno. I get a Science Fiction channel COMET, a western channel GRIT and and number of movie channels, PBS, ABC, CBS, and NBC.
Hey, you are an inspiration to many in this space. You helped me tremendously figuring out and realizing that an antenna can get HD! I still have people who are shocked that I use an antenna, they really thought that was not possible anymore. I paid a local installer to install mine and it's still kicking years later! I spread the word when I can.
Awesome presentation! I am glad you show a slide of garbage antennas. The top antenna around 8:25 in your presentation was my first RUclips advertisement...
So funny that you used to watch Judge Judy on that phone! I had a really boring job in the 90s where I had to just scan papers half of my work day and I too used to listen to Judge Judy on my little portable radio/tv. Thank you for sharing your presentation. Loved it.
I can't believe people were that dumb in college to think that over the air antenna channels was stealing lol. That made me laugh. These are college kids thinking that :) Tyler you are great at what you do and you put a lot of work into it. That makes me flock to these videos for valid information. I just wish I lived in a better location to get more channels than I do. I am limited living in an apartment.
Thought the same thing. But even this week with MeTV Toons coming soon, some people in their 40s-50s were surprised when I told them they could get the major big 5 networks, MeTv Toons and others free over-the-air.
The people currently in college are worse than boomers just saying since they go against our traditions (it gets too political to mention here) However that doesn't include everyone you just need to find the right people who are nice. They think money is the answer thanks to the nice people being broke and the nasty people being rich snobs. It wasn't like this before 2020 something must of happened since covid for this to happen.
I live in San Diego ca I learned about antenna tv from my wife's kids. Then from wonderful people like you, I use 2 flat $3-$4 cheap antenna for great reception, and 1 tv which I hooked up a wire to (inside) metal supports, I get good reception on that .One place I might move to has great reception, the other lousy, guess I'll have someone install an antenna on top of my house in that case.
Excellent explanation. I do wonder how securing OTA from viewers makes sense while TV viewership, via ant, cable or satt, is plummeting. They seem clueless that OTA could be the backstop to losses elsewhere due to rising fees on other pipelines..
Thanks! I'm also going to send feed back to youtube on your behalf. You have helped me tremendously! I would have been on my own. And since I have been studying your videos for about 6 months, until I can make a decision on placement of an antenna. I wish I could have gifted more. But I am using your links to purchase.
Kudos to you for this presentation. Shaming the broadcast corporations is, not surprisingly, needed. As a side note, along with all the info you have listed over the years, I ended up having to replace a section of cable from the amplifier (at the antenna) to the grounding block outside my house. The cable became stiff at the antenna end so I suspected it had degraded yielding basically no reception at all. After replacing it my reception improved so much I took out the amp!
I’m 19. I try to push OTA TV. I have so far convinced my family and 3 other families I know to ditch cable and/or get an antenna. And I think if people just knew about free OTA TV more would switch. As you said there’s just no advertising. I think its popularity will grow as streaming services up their prices and introduce ads.
Media Companies are so Greedy it really blows my mind and I don’t think they will do anything until the FTC gets involved and millions of Americans start to complain.
I'll have to keep next May in mind. I'm pretty close to the SLC airport, so it would be nice to meet you then. Great presentation and thanks for standing up for us, the regular viewers. If they ever got rid of ATSC 1.0 up on Farnsworth Peak and just had DRM ATSC 3.0 rendering my TiVo Bolts (2); then they can all cram it. I'm a big TiVo person, and if I can't have a good DVR I'll just move all of my recordings over to my DirecTV TiVo (yes, I'm rocking one of those too. THR22).
What I like of your presentation is the things you say can also be a guide for knowledgable people to use when they explain antennas to customers. It seems many knowledgable people in general simply post notes of information for themselves or other experts.
I like your passion for free OTA TV, more people need to be educated about it, your voice is getting heard. We totally agree with your stance and enthusiasm for free off the air TV reception. The industry needs to wake up to the fact that their current actions is disenfranchising their audiences. If they don't change course, OTA TV will die a slow death. 😭😵
Wow my brain is full to the top with knowledge i didn't know existed. Im going to have to watch this over more than once . Tyler thank you for you. Do you ever feel like the cable guys might hate you?
Tylor you should wright Mr Trumps Speach's well done you know your stuff Nothing like making your own antennas i make my own for ham radio Keep up the great service
I recently cancelled my $285 comcast bill, and opted for Starlink internet at $120 and an OTA HDHR to my Channels DVR. Honestly, the only thing I miss is the Washington Capitals games. I do have a bunch of other streaming channels going into the Channels DVR, and am really enjoying the cost savings.. Thanks for the video
I'm a millennial and I love to watch over the air broadcast TV I'm old school I barely do streaming. I miss analog tv but the digital TV has crappy signals.
Has something happened to the way TVs download extended data for the programs we watch OTA? Around March 1st my LG TV stopped listing the actors in the program and shows unrelated people. The synopsis shown however. I tried a brand new TV and the actors aren't shown at all. It makes me think the backend service no longer supplies that info. Is this an ATSC 'thing'?
Absolutely. Many say analog was terrible because it was full of noise, but we had a big roof antenna and got most stations in clear. No interference, no snow, no ghosting. It was even better than what the cable company could deliver. With digital it either comes in perfect or it doesn’t, maybe with some glitches if the signal isn’t perfect. Sadly most channels use far too much digital compression which looks worse than a good analog picture, and no user equipment can fix that.
In the old days I would turn the volume all the way up on the channel I wanted and go outside and hand turn the antenna until I heard the channel come alive. no tv I have now will seek the channel long enough to do that anymore. a Electric rotator is impossible so is there tv now that will seek the channels long enough that I can hand turn the antenna into position ??
Your channel was wrongly demonetized because you dared speak the truth about DRM. The entire infrastructure community of ATSC 3.0 engineers supports what you are saying Antenna Man. Thank you for being brave.
I'm happy to see Scripps marketing and giving info about OTA TV but yea I do think all big broadcast owners need to market and give info about OTA TV Better great video Tyler keep up the great work love your channel.
Very interesting about your background in this field which I am interested in too. I just saw an ad for the cheap PingDing Chinese type of antenna for about $60.00 in the Montgomery Ward catalog, not requested by me to receive, as a rip off of the old brand name, full of junk I phoned them to be taken off their mailing list I use a dongle to receive ATSC 3.0 OTA and see often a DRM lock on these channels. 😅
NY city has a lot of steel in buildings causing reflections, ghosts on analog TV.. I put a fringe area TV antenna on top of a tall building, pointed it at WTC antenna, got ghost free pictures because the antenna had a lot of elements making it very directional. So this actually works as expected in the big city in reality. However Radio Shack is no longer selling these excellent antennas. I added nylon rope and cable ties to stabilize the elements in the strong wind.
Dude this was by far your best RUclips video 📹 to date 📅 that little subterfuge that you admit to the beginning was well done as a disclaimer. Hopefully this presentation to the movers and shakers of this industry will gain some traction and they will be motivated by the original spirit of over the air broadcasting. Well done brother!
The fact that your college roommates thought that getting OTA tv was piracy is infuriating and hilarious. Those "torrenting is theft" lectures in grade school warped an entire generation.
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Why did they demonitize your video's. I have never seen anything immoral or anything that I would think would cause anyone to do that.
I bet it's because if you have a well tuned antenna, why would you need to pay for RUclipsTV? Corporations being corporations. People need to get their power back!!
You are a very good public speaker . Glad we have you fighting for OTA .
Thanks for the kind words. I worked really hard on the speech so I'm glad it turned out well.
Great presentation. Thanks. Free TV is the best alternative.
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We really lost a lot when we lost analog. I grew up half way between Green Bay and Milwaukee. We got everything from both cities. With digital, friends still there cannot get stations from either city. Forced into first cable and satellite. Now steaming or just RUclips for news. Congress sold us our to the phone companies money. At least the democrats forced the free converter boxes. Who figures out how to force digital repeaters will be a hero to everyone. And for Tyler, that is no Bla Bla Bla. ;-)
You did good, Tyler!
Funny how NTSC and ATSC 1.0 didn't need DRM, but somehow ATSC 3.0 does.
NTSC really had no technical way to cleanly add DRM. ATSC made DRM easier, but technology from the 1990s limited the bandwidth on ATSC making DRM a waste of time. ATSC 3.0 was designed around DRM.
Typical corporate money grab. 🖕
@@thedude5040 NTSC had Analog Rights Management of sorts, more commonly known as scrambling. Look up Super TV and SelecTV. You couldn’t watch and listen unless you rented a set top box from the company. It didn’t end up doing very well. I think Tyler has a video on it.
I’m so sick of hearing “…don’t worry, we’re still in the early stages off rollout…” when clearly the fix has been in from the very start of the standards development. ATSC 3.0 was supposed to address, among other things, the poor modulation choice that had been made with ATSC 1.0 (there were better options back then), but then they turn around and make horrible codec and DRM selections with no enforceable policy to keep the fox from guarding the hen house. People need to be a lot more realistic about how bad this really is. People should be angry! These are OUR public airwaves and access is being stripped away with every new standard. But I don’t see the outcry there should be, so maybe there just isn’t enough interest and we should roll over and let the remaining TV spectrum go to the telecom companies for cellular data service, etc. I certainly don’t see the type of course corrections that are needed at this late stage to keep OTA alive with the younger demographic.
Sadly after my station turned on ATSC 3.0 with DRM they also decided the switch ATSC 1.0 to a smaller tower of a sister station and now I can't get it and they don't seem to care.
Thank you for talking about this issue.
I talked to the station manager of my local TV station to ask him about the upcoming ATSC 3.0 and DRM. He called me a "freeloader" because I use an antenna and am paying nothing to help pay the bills that the station has to keep the signal on the air. He said it's coming that you antenna people won't get a signal anymore when the tower is shut down but they will still use satellite for cable and dish people. They don't care.
@@trainmaster0217 Your seeing commercials on that OTA station, right? So you ARE paying your share. What a horrible response. It's worth noting that while some have that attitude, some do not. When I complained about reception from a local station a few months ago, they sent out a representative to investigate. He did his own signal checks and actually loaned me an antenna to try! Very responsive attitude. The real issue was multipath signals in the backyard due to trees. I substituted my high gain antenna for a low gain Channel Master mud flap antenna, found the best signal on the side of the house and taped it there. Problem solved.
When I complained about signal interference on distant PBS station, I got crickets. Turned out that was due to the solar storm and the reception returned to normal a few days later. So it seems some companies are willing to work with your over-the-air issues and some are not. Interesting times for sure.
@@trainmaster0217 Jokes on the station manager, channels like ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX are required by law to have a mandatory antenna signal.
ya Ive looked in to it and 1.0 is getting fazed out. wont be long before OTA is gone. every one streams now
@@trainmaster0217 yep greedy bastereds 😂
You're right, antennas are making a comeback. I grew up with a dad that owned a tv repair shop in the 70s and had my share of antenna installs. I retired from audio/visual installs, etc. It amazed me, even with people my age (in my 60s) that were no longer aware of over-the-air, as if it vanished when cable appeared. I always advised them that they could have it along with streaming when I did an install of surround sound, speakers, stuff like that. Many times I'd ask them if they knew they had an antenna in the attic. Often, they had either forgot about it or moved in with it there and I would hook it up and it was like they just discovered fire. I grew up in a time when home pro football games were black out. During the Cowboy-49ers 1971 blacked out championship game we ran a flat lead to our aluminum screen door and brought in the game. It was a bit snowy, but we loved it.
Thanks again for being our advocate again the bad things in ATSC 3.0! It was a great presentation! I look forward to seeing you and Lon in a future FCC hearing on our behalf! Keep up the good work!
Very well put together presentation Tyler! You're a better public speaker than you probably believe you are. Keep up the great things you do being our OTA advocator!
-Kirk
Thanks for the kind words!
The hero we didn't know we needed.
Nice Job on the presentation. I am one of the HDHomeRun users and the DRM on ATSC 3.0 bums me out. Thanks for fighting for us.
No problem. I will keep up the fight!
Me too, used to get all channels in our region on ATSC1 with our HDHomerun, ATSC3.0 and DRM have made it obsolete and I refuse to buy an ATSC3.0 capable device until the DRM mess has been sorted out.
When do we get Congress involved?
@@Fetherko Now! Contact your elected officials!
I bought one too. Still like the HDHR though. But I talked my sister into spending $500 more to get a TV that was ATSC 3.0 ready to correct her marginal reception issues. The result was that they put ATSC 3.0 on a low power transmitter so her ATSC 1.0 signals were still better, and on top of that, they added DRM! She still asked me, "So tell me again why I spent so much for this TV?" Yep, THAT burned me.
You did a great job Tyler. In my opinion, the local TV station owners are using DRM with ATSC 3.0 as a last ditch effort to keep people paying for cable or satellite TV for access to local TV channels. They don't care if people are dropping cable and satellite TV, because they know they can increase the retransmission cost to cable and satellite TV providers to make up for the loss.
I have studied public speaking for years, and your talk was very good on all points. Effective introduction, material fit to the audience, good pace, enunciation, sentence structure, modulation and tone. You have a distinct lack of "word whiskers" (ahhh, uhhh, well then, ahem, sooooo, mmmmmm). Main points made clear. Good use of visual aids. And an effective conclusion. Well done!
You gave a knock-your-socks-off great presentation. Super well done!
Thank you for exposing the DRM SCAM... we OTA folk PAY for TV by enduring the Commercials!
I'm here to protect your right to access free over the air TV without restrictions (DRM)
That was a great presentation. You conveyed everything that needed to be touched upon about OTA's future in just under a half-hour. I wish the FCC commissioners could be forced to watch this so they would understand the concerns of those of us who still watch free TV. Please keep up the good fight.
Thanks for the words!
You are the REAL antenna man!
I loved to hear your passion of television antennas!! I shared the same passion. My mom and dad would drive down a street and comment, "Oh look, isn't that a pretty house and nice yard. I'd be staring at their TV antenna on the roof. We may be a small group but there are others who share that same passion. In fact we often wondered, "Is it illegal to stare at an antenna on a private home?" Amusing yes, but seriously, antennas were like automobiles. There were many styles and models, and some were quite impressive. "Hey, look at that one!!"
Today that passion STILL exists but now those kids are amateur radio operators. And yes, they can STILL talk antennas all day long!
Excellent presentation, Tyler. One thing I've found rather frustrating is that most antennas that are described as VHF/UHF are VHF-HI/UHF, leaving out the VHF-LO band completely. I recently had a VHF-LO (ch. 3) channel launch in my area, and my Channel Master STEALTHtenna wouldn't pick it up, even though I'm less than 15 miles from the transmitter. Replaced it with a Winegard YA7000C, and I was in business. To your remarks about people putting up an antenna, running a scan and not getting much (or nothing at all); I think the same thing applies to the right antenna. Not just junk antennas, but if a high-quality antenna won't pick up all 3 bands, people may not be getting everything available to them.
Great presentation Tyler! So our Hisense u8k randomly lags on encrypted ATSC 3.0 channels but 1.0 channels has no lagging. They are making the experience horrible even if the tv can decode it!
Great job, Tyler! Just as good as it was live :)
Wow Tyler! Mr Bigtime talking at a big event like the NATVC! You've come a long way from being the gangly kid installing outdoor antennas on roofs in rural PA!
Wow this was a really good presentation Tyler. Thank you for speaking out for OTA viewers.
Nice presentation, Tyler. You took just the right tone on two big issues: 1) increasing awareness among younger generations about free OTA TV, and 2) limiting access to x.1 stations by implementing DRM encryption when end user technology wasn't readily available to decode signals sent over the public airwaves. It didn't sound like a rant, and I suspect your points were well received. Time to take the message to the large industry players.
The main issue why younger viewers (older chidren, teens, and young adults) have less of an interest in over-the-air content is due to there being nothing particularly interesting for them. Only animated content as of now on antenna TV is boring preschool slop on PBS Kids and occasionally reruns of Family Guy very late at night on The CW. Thankfully things will change once MeTV Toons comes to be!
Thank you, Tyler, you truly are the only person fighting for our air-wave rights. This talk was great, hopefully the station operators take your advice and begin to see the value of traditional media utilizing newer media to extend its presence instead of erasing it. All it takes is one TikTok trend to go viral and all of a sudden Columbo is cool for some reason.
Excellent presentation, very well done. I started listening and had to finish. Great job.
The FCC needs to create rules that limits DRM/Encryption on OTA frequencies. This has to happen before ATSC 1.0 is turned off to free up bandwidth.
1. No DRM allowed on live broadcasts filmed within 150 miles of the transmitter. Covers local sports teams and other local events. Outside of the local area, the broadcasts can be on the pay DRM channel.
2. No local news broadcasts can be behind DRM. Priority for broadcast licenses will go to stations that create their own local news broadcasts for at least 3 hours per day. Not allowed to use a national news broadcast as their local broadcast. A lower bidder gets the license if they commit to more local programming.
3. Must carry minimum 1 non-DRM channels per frequency channel. Priority for licenses for stations that commit to more non-DRM channels. How many DRM and non-DRM channels will be defined in the license. A DRM channel is free to switch to non-DRM at any time. A non-DRM channel can never have DRM.
4. The non-DRM channel has to have a minimum bandwidth allocation that can support a spec of 4k broadcasts/audio. This needs to be defined. Then the rest of the bandwidth can be used for the sub channels.
5. 1st time showings of any new TV shows or movies (less than 5 years old, no longer in theaters) must be on the non-DRM channel before it can be on the DRM channel. No bypassing by using subsidiaries or companies owned by the same corporation.
6. Non-DRM channel must have a mix of content broadcasting 24/7.
7. Priority licenses for stations that show at least 3 hours of Saturday morning educational cartoons for kids (because why not).
They can then use the DRM channel for live broadcasts outside of the local area, on-demand, catalog playlists, movies still in theaters, and then for anything else. This can be their competition to online streaming without destroying the free non-DRM OTA.
They also need to clearly define that people are allowed to have their own personal dedicated antenna and have as long of a "cord" that they want, this is to ensure it is legal for people with their own local antenna, DVRs/tuners to use remotely when traveling for personal use and they are free to pay a 3rd party company to manage their personal system for them.
The FCC currently has no rules. Everyone, individually needs to contact your representative to keep the television band open and free. Fact is, the FCC won't just step in unless the consumer requests it.
But don't get your hopes up! Even if the FCC agrees to new rules for our bands, the major media businesses don't have to use these bands and are most likely already planning to leave them if they can't use DRM.
Part of the problem is that people are willing to spend money on subscription fees ALONG WITH watching advertising. That started back in the 60's with Cable TV. That shifted the entire business market platform so that stations on just an OTA advertising budget alone can't really survive.
If the FCC had some rules to keep our television band DRM free, that would result in a huge band of just shopping channels.
I counted 10 shopping channels in my area so far. Media owners may just decide in the near future to stream everything with a subscription and leave OTA television to just shopping channels. I was watching one of the new OTA News channels, which had a special "shopping channel segment." Really? Many of the major morning programs are doing this as well. Guess a lot of people enjoy shopping channels!! Which to me is sad.
I saw this coming back in the 70's when everyone hopped on the "subscription" (cable) bandwagon. People ripped down their antennas, which they thought were ugly and lugged them happily to the curb, as the cable companies continually increased their subscription bills!! When the bills started to hurt, I suggested to my Aunt that I could free her from that cable bill shackle with an antenna so I put one up on her roof. Oh, it was a thing of great beauty to me!!! Huge and massive with so many elements you couldn't count them! Great reception, except it required a rotor. She drove up stepped out of the car and shrieked!!! WHAT IS THAT THING ON MY ROOF, TAKE IT DOWN!!! When she learned that she also had to "rotate the antenna" she blew a 50 amp fuse and went back to paying cable.
Look at the generation of 20 and 30 year olds and you'll see, first hand that OTA television, as we know it, is doomed. The younger generation generally has NO interest in OTA television. They are NOT going to mess with positioning antennas. They will never use a rotor, period, nor will they mess with those antique style cable boxes either!
They will use their $25 streaming devices for everything they watch. Networks will move their content to subscription streaming services only. It will happen almost overnight in the near future. People will use their Roku, Google TV or Fire TV stick as their new wireless "cable TV" service, and OTA television as we know it today will be officially dead, except for shopping channels.
The FCC is really powerless to control this transition, even if they wanted to.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
Great speech man, way to grill them a bit on the greed factor. It was fun to meet you man. Hopefully you can one back next year to NTA.
Great presentation. I'm not as versed as you in the specifics of RF and its transmission/reception (I need to study up on that), but I've turned quite a few neighbors on to OTA television with antennas, even helped an elder neighbor couple get rid of their junky "super-duper HD-specific" antenna for a better one that's slightly more expensive but gives them far more channels and better picture quality. Keep up the good work in spreading the "gospel" of antennas!
Couple of things to consider. Transmitting with a license vs. streaming maintains a stations business indepedence.
Hooking their wagon to an internet provider for streaming puts the internet provider in control of their business, vs the independence they have with current broadcasting.
Also, in an emergency, the internet will fail, but broadcasting will always be possible.
It's in our nations best interest to keep unencrypted broadcasting available for wide spread distribution of information when disasters occur.
Good job! Watched your entire presentation. It's very frustrating how blind those companies/tv stations are, instead of listening to their viewers and make the transition a positive one. Something tells me they don't give a *** until their revenues from cable tv is gone or significantly reduced. So many other countries have switched to h264 and eac3 audio just to save space and broadcast more channels. But let's be honest, this is America where most people don't care to pay $100/month to watch 5 channels. The good thing is that the new generation don't want to pay that much, so I think cable tv as we know it is on it's way out, and these tv networks are partially to blame for it.
Excellent presentation! You hit the nail on the head. If broadcasters do not care about their viewers, they will loose the viewers to streaming and they won't get them back.
Exactly! If they don't put an effort into their content, broadcast TV is going to end up like AM radio in a decade.
Thanks, Tyler. I'm very impressed with your presentation and happy that it is very balanced as to the pros/cons of ATSC 3.0 and not another propaganda tool by the industry. Hopefully they are listening. I think it is a waste of money to upgrade my TVs or even my TABLO knowing they might be obsolete. I can't afford to buy new hardware over and over again. I'm committed to OTA tv with some streaming supplement. Cable had a chance to fix the problem and just ignored us.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Thank you, that’s a great presentation for coming up with good solutions to preserving OTA broadcast television! Not only you’ve provided interesting facts on why OTA needs to be saved, you’ve also suggested the advantages of OTA in the digital streaming television age, and how it should better evolve and the robust technology for the consumer than streaming services like Netflix, that streaming services are monetizing viewers with price hikes, while OTA is free for viewers!
Thank god there’s people like you in this world
I have a Televes antenna outdoor thanks to you ! And it and you are great ! Thank you for your service and channel !
I have a ClearStream Max-V from Antennas Direct, thanks to a review of it on this channel. It has a claim of a 60 mile range, and I live about 50 miles north of Boston, It does pick up all the Boston channels, so I'm happy.
Televes is the best I got one to the bigest one
I also have the big outdoor Televes antenna and it is the best.
Wow you are on fire! Love this presentation, so loose and relaxed, I picture you hanging on the edge ot the podium, just riffin with your knowledge! Super helpful information and overview of where we're at! Keep up this delivery style!
I am a subscriber to your RUclips channel. You are an accomplished speaker. No Engineering degree, but wise where it counts; you would make a fantastic FCC Commissioner, with a fresh insight (yes, in my dreams, I realize). H.R. 3501 never made it out of Committee, and you are the first person I have come across that convinces me that an FCC Commissioner with his/her own technical degree might not be necessary after all.
Thanks for this video! You reminded me to rescan my Sony x900h and now have 6 ATSC 3.0 channels that my wife and I can watch.
Good presentation. Tells the whole tale clearly and understandably. Kudos.
very impressive Tyler you do great work and love your enthusiasm and channel keep it up 😊
Thank you for the information. I get 65 channels on my antenna. I got it on Antenna's Direct and have a signal booster. I run 2 TV's off one antenna and get better pictures than when I had expensive cable. I live an hour north of Bakersfield, and a 75 minutes south of Fresno. I get a Science Fiction channel COMET, a western channel GRIT and and number of movie channels, PBS, ABC, CBS, and NBC.
From indoor antennas in my house, I get 40 channels from transmitters 10 miles east of me.
Hey, you are an inspiration to many in this space. You helped me tremendously figuring out and realizing that an antenna can get HD! I still have people who are shocked that I use an antenna, they really thought that was not possible anymore. I paid a local installer to install mine and it's still kicking years later! I spread the word when I can.
Awesome presentation! I am glad you show a slide of garbage antennas. The top antenna around 8:25 in your presentation was my first RUclips advertisement...
Hi Taylor, I have to say you did a fantastic job with your presentation. We’ll done congratulations
So funny that you used to watch Judge Judy on that phone! I had a really boring job in the 90s where I had to just scan papers half of my work day and I too used to listen to Judge Judy on my little portable radio/tv. Thank you for sharing your presentation. Loved it.
This was a great summation of the current state of affairs, thank you!
Thanks! I worked really hard on it so I'm glad it turned out well.
Thank you for your very educational and informative presentation, as I am a huge fan and advocator for over-the-air antenna television!
That was an excellent presentation Tyler you explained so much in a short amount of time Your knowledge is priceless!
Thanks for the kind words. I worked really hard on it so I'm glad it turned out well.
I enjoyed it and good Job Tyler...thank you
I can't believe people were that dumb in college to think that over the air antenna channels was stealing lol. That made me laugh. These are college kids thinking that :) Tyler you are great at what you do and you put a lot of work into it. That makes me flock to these videos for valid information. I just wish I lived in a better location to get more channels than I do. I am limited living in an apartment.
Thought the same thing. But even this week with MeTV Toons coming soon, some people in their 40s-50s were surprised when I told them they could get the major big 5 networks, MeTv Toons and others free over-the-air.
The people currently in college are worse than boomers just saying since they go against our traditions (it gets too political to mention here) However that doesn't include everyone you just need to find the right people who are nice. They think money is the answer thanks to the nice people being broke and the nasty people being rich snobs.
It wasn't like this before 2020 something must of happened since covid for this to happen.
I doubt that they are dumb. I would guess their parents never used an antenna at home to receive TV and only subscribe to cable TV
@@javidial Word of mouth is the best method of giving news and spreads like wildfire! Continue to spread the word!
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Awesome presentation. Really enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work!
Class is in session. Thanks Tyler.
Tyler, that was an excellent presentation. It was very well organized and your delivery was energetic. Great job.
Thanks for the kind words. I worked really hard on it so I'm glad it turned out well.
@@AntennaMan Yes, you kept a good pace and did not seem nervous at all. Good for you.
Excellent information! Thanks a Million!
I live in San Diego ca I learned about antenna tv from my wife's kids. Then from wonderful people like you, I use 2 flat $3-$4 cheap antenna for great reception, and 1 tv which I hooked up a wire to (inside) metal supports, I get good reception on that .One place I might move to has great reception, the other lousy, guess I'll have someone install an antenna on top of my house in that case.
Excellent explanation. I do wonder how securing OTA from viewers makes sense while TV viewership, via ant, cable or satt, is plummeting. They seem clueless that OTA could be the backstop to losses elsewhere due to rising fees on other pipelines..
Came here to say how great of a presenter you are and I see that many beat me to it. Way to go Tyler!
I cut the cord five years ago and never regretted.
Thanks! I'm also going to send feed back to youtube on your behalf. You have helped me tremendously! I would have been on my own. And since I have been studying your videos for about 6 months, until I can make a decision on placement of an antenna. I wish I could have gifted more. But I am using your links to purchase.
Informative, thank you for this
Kudos to you for this presentation. Shaming the broadcast corporations is, not surprisingly, needed.
As a side note, along with all the info you have listed over the years, I ended up having to replace a section of cable from the amplifier (at the antenna) to the grounding block outside my house. The cable became stiff at the antenna end so I suspected it had degraded yielding basically no reception at all. After replacing it my reception improved so much I took out the amp!
I’m 19. I try to push OTA TV. I have so far convinced my family and 3 other families I know to ditch cable and/or get an antenna. And I think if people just knew about free OTA TV more would switch. As you said there’s just no advertising. I think its popularity will grow as streaming services up their prices and introduce ads.
Great talk and so cool that you were invited to do it! So cool that you had an OTA cell phone back in the day! I heard about that but never saw one!
Nicely Done!
Thank you for being an advocate for the people!
Thanks for the kind words. I'm here to protect everyone's right to access free over the air TV without restrictions (DRM)
Media Companies are so Greedy it really blows my mind and I don’t think they will do anything until the FTC gets involved and millions of Americans start to complain.
Very informative. Ironically, no video of presentation at a television convention. 😊
That is funny. 😅😅😅.
Awesome. We need you in Washington DC.
I'll probably be invited to speak at some congressional meeting in the future
I'll have to keep next May in mind. I'm pretty close to the SLC airport, so it would be nice to meet you then. Great presentation and thanks for standing up for us, the regular viewers. If they ever got rid of ATSC 1.0 up on Farnsworth Peak and just had DRM ATSC 3.0 rendering my TiVo Bolts (2); then they can all cram it. I'm a big TiVo person, and if I can't have a good DVR I'll just move all of my recordings over to my DirecTV TiVo (yes, I'm rocking one of those too. THR22).
What I like of your presentation is the things you say can also be a guide for knowledgable people to use when they explain antennas to customers. It seems many knowledgable people in general simply post notes of information for themselves or other experts.
I was using OTA antennas long before it became fashionable using them since i was a kid.
Thank you Tyler for your efforts.
I'm here to protect your right to access free over the air TV without restrictions (DRM)
Thank you for all the work you do Tyler. Been sharing your stuff as much as possible!
Great speech. Thanks for sharing. DRM. They really need to get it sorted.
I like your passion for free OTA TV, more people need to be educated about it, your voice is getting heard. We totally agree with your stance and enthusiasm for free off the air TV reception. The industry needs to wake up to the fact that their current actions is disenfranchising their audiences. If they don't change course, OTA TV will die a slow death. 😭😵
Wow my brain is full to the top with knowledge i didn't know existed. Im going to have to watch this over more than once . Tyler thank you for you.
Do you ever feel like the cable guys might hate you?
Very cool Antenna Man Good topic to tell people about DRM on over the air TV and why there should not be doing it.
Tylor you should wright Mr Trumps Speach's well done you know your stuff
Nothing like making your own antennas i make my own for ham radio
Keep up the great service
Who would like to write for trump it would have to be an American Red Neck
Tyler this was great, bravo - you're doing the lord's work
Thanks for the kind words!
Very informative video. You're my go-to stores for anything OTA.
Fantastic presentation! I know a lot of work went into this, so bravo! Impressive technical and historical information.
I recently cancelled my $285 comcast bill, and opted for Starlink internet at $120 and an OTA HDHR to my Channels DVR. Honestly, the only thing I miss is the Washington Capitals games. I do have a bunch of other streaming channels going into the Channels DVR, and am really enjoying the cost savings.. Thanks for the video
Nice job putting this together! Looking forward to seeing you at NTA 2025!
Awesome presentation! I learned quite a bit.
I'm a millennial and I love to watch over the air broadcast TV I'm old school I barely do streaming. I miss analog tv but the digital TV has crappy signals.
Unfortunately, there aren't many of us
@@AntennaMan true me born in 86
Analog NTSC looked like garbage. Widescreen PALPlus looked better. Digital broadcast looks great if you give it enough bitrate.
Has something happened to the way TVs download extended data for the programs we watch OTA? Around March 1st my LG TV stopped listing the actors in the program and shows unrelated people. The synopsis shown however. I tried a brand new TV and the actors aren't shown at all. It makes me think the backend service no longer supplies that info. Is this an ATSC 'thing'?
This was a fantastic presentation! Thank you so much for speaking out on this topic.
Tyler, KGUN 9 in Tucson AZ is about to switch over to ATSC 3 at the end of this month.
DRM coming soon near you!
@@AntennaMan Tyler, I am afraid of that, I'll let you know.. Great presentation BTW......J
In the analog days, Would putting antennas outside better the picture quality.
Absolutely. Many say analog was terrible because it was full of noise, but we had a big roof antenna and got most stations in clear. No interference, no snow, no ghosting. It was even better than what the cable company could deliver. With digital it either comes in perfect or it doesn’t, maybe with some glitches if the signal isn’t perfect. Sadly most channels use far too much digital compression which looks worse than a good analog picture, and no user equipment can fix that.
In the analog TV day it was easier to find the best picture and sound direction to point your antenna.
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In the old days I would turn the volume all the way up on the channel I wanted and go outside and hand turn the antenna until I heard the channel come alive. no tv I have now will seek the channel long enough to do that anymore. a Electric rotator is impossible so is there tv now that will seek the channels long enough that I can hand turn the antenna into position ??
Your channel was wrongly demonetized because you dared speak the truth about DRM. The entire infrastructure community of ATSC 3.0 engineers supports what you are saying Antenna Man. Thank you for being brave.
Proud of you sir‼️🙏
I'm happy to see Scripps marketing and giving info about OTA TV but yea I do think all big broadcast owners need to market and give info about OTA TV Better great video Tyler keep up the great work love your channel.
Very interesting about your background
in this field which I am interested in too.
I just saw an ad for the cheap PingDing Chinese type of
antenna for about $60.00 in the Montgomery Ward catalog, not requested by me to receive, as a rip off of the old brand name, full of junk
I phoned them to be taken off their
mailing list
I use a dongle to receive ATSC 3.0
OTA and see often a DRM lock on
these channels. 😅
NY city has a lot of steel in buildings causing reflections, ghosts on analog TV.. I put a fringe area TV antenna on top of a tall building, pointed it at WTC antenna, got ghost free pictures because the antenna had a lot of elements making it very directional. So this actually works as expected in the big city in reality. However Radio Shack is no longer selling these excellent antennas. I added nylon rope and cable ties to stabilize the elements in the strong wind.
Dude this was by far your best RUclips video 📹 to date 📅 that little subterfuge that you admit to the beginning was well done as a disclaimer. Hopefully this presentation to the movers and shakers of this industry will gain some traction and they will be motivated by the original spirit of over the air broadcasting. Well done brother!
Thanks for the kind words!
The fact that your college roommates thought that getting OTA tv was piracy is infuriating and hilarious. Those "torrenting is theft" lectures in grade school warped an entire generation.
It sure did. Sad really but this is what happened. I'm glad my mom was "Silent Gen", she knew what she did.
When will more tv's come with a 3.0 tuner?
Great job Tyler, thank you 😊
Very good presentation. Hope someone actually listens.
Didn't discuss community service and emergency use. Both will be impacted by DRM.
Good point. I knew there would be some things I'd miss in the presentation but I think the audience got the point.