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I have a story time related to this antenna: I was staying in the Phoenix area as I have some extended family who live in Arizona (an uncle of mine recently celebrated his 80th birthday this week) and I actually saw a TV-style antenna input for the FM section on a Bose radio in his house. That led me to think after getting into this video: are this antenna's low VHF (RF 2-6) elements tuned to also work with FM radio since it is so close to low-VHF TV in the United States?
@@robertogalvez3865 That's too bad because were I to design an antenna for the North American TV region, I would tune the low VHF elements to receive FM radio as a single cohesive section tuned to 54-108 MHz, with the notable exception of the 4 MHz gap at 72-76 MHz.
This was one of the best TV antenna reviews ever. Kyle, you hit this one out of the park! I'm tempted to buy this aerial to finally capture 6ABC's wide airwaves in OCNJ. Miracles do happen.
I'm having it installed in Bethlehem, Pa next week. Fingers crossed, because it didn't pick up abc6 from my yard ..hoping the final mount on the roof (about 30 up) will work
@@gsnassif Oh, how'd it go? Were you able to pickup ABC6, what about MEtv2? I'm in the valley myself, so I'm well aware how illusive those pesky VHF-low channels really are. 😅
I purchased the Televes dat boss...according to antenna web, I can NOT get OTA reception in my area. Well, We put this antenna on a 40 ft tower....86 CHANNELS! I bought it because of your reviews. Thank you sooo much. After 20 years, we finally got to kick DTV to the curb! It's been up a month now paired with a Tablo Quad. So although there is a learning curve...I am happy! Thank you for all of your honest reviews. THIS ANTENNA IS THE BOSS!
I tested and reviewed the smaller version of this antenna with Low VHF elements, picked up RF 2, 4 and 9 very well. Good quality antennas from Televes.👍
Televes continues to knock it out of the park! I have the Dinova Boss Mix thanks to Tyler’s recommendation and it’s works fantastic! The company really knows what they’re doing!
Thank You Tyler. I live in Simi Valley, California. I have had this antenna on a 10 foot mast on top of my roof for about 6 months now. It is plugged directly into a Tablo 4 tuner recorder . It is aimed due west towards Mt Wilson . Despite a small mountain ridge between us and no direct line of sight to Mt Wison I am able to pickup 81 useable channels . I have nothing but good to say about my reception. I do have one problem now with our windy season upon us. I need to get back up on the roof and beef up the antenna tripod and mast. I may need to add some guy wires to keep the antenna up and pointed in the right direction. I have tried lesser antennas with mixed results . This Televes does the job. My thanks to Tyler. You provide a very usefull service ! ! !
I use this exact antenna as I have a major broadcast station (CBS) that broadcasts on Low-VHF channel 3. Nothing but great things to say about this antenna. Thanks for the review.
I bought this antenna after watching Tyler's review and I can honestly say this antenna knocks it out of the park. Here in NYC there are several TV stations still using the LOW VHF band and I was having a heckuva time trying to pull them in with my 25 year old old massive VHF/UHF antenna that was falling apart. I wound purchasing a bunch of antennas as time went by and they were hopelessly inept in pulling in the Low VHF stations. It's an excellent antenna - I get around 75 stations now, so thanks Tyler for the antenna review.
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My son bought this antenna at Bess Electronics in Burnsville MN. Those guys are great and very helpful. My son lives in town about 30 miles south of them so he picked it up in person. We installed it in the attic of his garage and picks up Minneapolis/St Paul channels crystal clear.
I just put this up on my house yesterday and I've gotta say I'm thoroughly impressed. I'm about 75 miles from the broadcasting towers and I got 107 channels with excellent signal strength.
Just installed this antenna, and it works great! Picks up 27 total channels in Green Bay 80 miles away. It can be a little overwhelming to put together at first but gets easier once you get the parts organized and you need to remember to get the coaxial cable as it's not included in the $179 Antenna from Menards. Awesome antenna overall
I enjoy your channel, I started using a flat antenna 📡 a couple years ago, I agree, they are junk. I have a 25 year old antenna about 15 feet in the air that I wasn't using so I hooked it up and now have better reception than ever, thanks for your help
I know this is older, however for new folks finding this channel, I just installed this antenna (2024 purchase new) for my pops in Georgetown Florida along with the RCA outdoor antenna rotator @20 feet plus the 3 feet above the rotator, 70 channels from Orlando south direction and 69 channels from Jacksonville North directions. I recommend this antenna also as it is a long range beast!
"Automatically adjusts the (amplifier) gain as needed." A smart, powerless preamplifier that senses what amperage is necessary, if any. That's encouraging.
This feature is very helpful for people in heavily wooded areas where signals might otherwise be overloaded with multipath on windy days. It's not say it will stop drop outs in that situation entirely but it should limit them.
@@AntennaMan That's insightful to know. I'm not in a heavily wooded area here in Fort Lauderdale where there's many towers. But I am prone to winds causing signal breakup, presumably by blowing tree branches in the pathway, but yes, perhaps multipath, but I'm most intrigued because I have some towers very close where any amplification disrupts the picture, yet also, have access to some towers which are further away where subtle, smart amplification should be useful.
@@c2jones I'm in the exact same boat! Windy days cause pixelation on selected channels...but only on ONE of my TV's! (the one with the shortest coax that's closest to the antennas) I use 2 antennas for the scenario you described (one of them is a Televes). I've always wondered if my situation could also be multipath as well.
I think this model should be "up to date" for a while. The updates came with the FCC repack a few years ago. It took a while for Televes to update their antennas because of supply chain issues.
Great job Tyler. Sounds like the new antenna I need. I get 26 channels now but there are 18 more that I could be getting. I will check out the link through you when I am ready to buy it soon.
After watching this channel... and reading/listening to all of the complaints about ABC6 reception, I was surprised when my 4V picked up the channel perfectly, from my attic, at almost 50 miles away. The next day, not so much.. garbled mess. I started kicking myself.. why didn't I get an antenna actually constructed for low VHF??? I thought it was impossible to get this channel from my location using an attic antenna. The early brief success gave me hope though... after many hours of research, trial and error... I was able to modify the dipole and find a location in the attic to where I am able to receive the channel perfectly at all times (so far).
Remember in the analog days that Low-VHF was the most desirable position and provided the best signal coverage. I'm guessing that WCBS and WNBC could have any channel they wanted and chose channels 2 and 4.
I just installed this antenna at my Quakertown home and it has not only given me more channels but they are all rock solid! I even get Philly channel 6! I wonder if it would be better if I add in the amplifier provided with the antenna? 🤣 Ok, I had to try it first before plugging in the amp power supply but, since it worked so darned good, I just haven’t bothered yet! Thanks so much for the antenna recommendation, Tyler!
It's nice to see something different in the antenna world besides the 10x or yagi from the 50s and 60s. If there were anything on television worth watching, I'd give it a try 😉
The low VHF channels were preferred by TV stations in the analog era and VHF in general was preferred as well because UHF doesn’t cover rugged terrain very well in the analog days but it seems like UHF favors Digital signals better than VHF where it’s the opposite for Analog signals
Not really. UHF still has less distance coverage than VHF High or VHF Low, they can run a million watts and still miss the valleys. The exception is tropospheric refraction conditions. These are abnormal propagation conditions, in which TV signals can follow the curve of the earth between two layers of different layers of air. In one case, I (in Michigan) saw Little Rock (AR) stations on Channels 4 and 7, even as a channel 7 station in Evansville (IN) could not be seen, having been caught inside the duct.
And the sad thing is that the FCC still doesn't get it, it doesn't matter if it's digital or analog those are RF signals and they will travel the same regardless of how they are modulated and we all know the higher the frequency the shorter the wavelengths get and in order to cover the same area you need more power and even if they say a million watts digital is equal to 5 million watts analog is a bunch of bull because it's still a radio wave and it still reacts the same regardless of if it's digital or analog and the only reason why VHF Low is being called trash is because it's more prone to interference than VHF Hi or UHF which at the current power levels would make digital transmissions worthless and all TV channels are subject to trop and e-skip the only reason why we have the trash channels of 2-6 is because of the lobbies in Washington that are backed by the cable TV and satellite providers because they know going in that their service was far superior then over the air broadcast signals but when the government mandated that TV stations go digital in order to provide high-definition that's when the death cry was sounded for cable and satellite because TV stations didn't need to invest heavily in their over the air facility because they were getting big bucks from cable and satellite in retransmission fees and they only needed to provide a high quality signal to the cable or satellite headend because the number of people that were getting TV through an antenna had been dropping like a rock to the point where almost everyone was hooked up to cable or had a satellite dish soap the regular over the air TV using an antenna was becoming a dinosaur, so the government in a last ditch effort to save broadcast TV from becoming pay only came up with the idea of going digital and hi-def and that meant that TV stations didn't have to rely on cable and satellite for the money needed to stay on the air they could rely on advertising for that like it's always been, but when the cable and satellite lobbies seen how much better than quality of the over the air signal was to what anyone would get from cable or satellite they started shaking in their boots because now the TV stations themselves were going to pose a real threat to the wellbeing of cable and satellite TV so they had to get their lobbyists in Washington to do something to make Congress pressure the FCC to do something, and what they came up with was to on purpose degrade TV signals to the point where nobody would have a choice but to get cable or satellite and the way the FCC did it was by making every full power TV station digital just to appease the broadcasters and by making all TV low power TV so the cable and satellite providers are happy because by keeping everything low power it basically makes every TV signal trash especially on VHF-Low (channels 2-6) and add in the crappy 8VSB modulated scheme, where if they had just went with COFDM like the rest of the world and kept the power levels the same as they were during the analog era Channels 2-6 wouldn't be trash because every TV station on 2-6 would still be running 100 Kw instead of 20Kw (7-13 would still be at 316Kw and not the 36Kw now and 14+ would still be at max 5 Mw and not 1Mw) because it would take into account for terrain and the limitations of the RF signals
Great stuff. As a ham radio operator, I am always looking for ways to build VHF, UHF antennas. Finding parts, aluminium tubing and fixtures is the problem. Is there a catalog I could look at? Thanks.
Hello Tyler. You may remember me asking some things about analog tv reception and analog shutoff here in Argentina. I just wanna say that the shutdown has not happened yet so i can keep using my analog tv
I used to get Whyy. Years ago. I Get Wpvi6 & Wgal8, Njn23...but 12 whyy never any more. I used to get it weak. Where Im at I have an old Large outdoor Baltimore antenna that if connected I can get WJZ13 & WBAL11 Baltimore...I wonder if a new Televes would pick up more Baltimore stations. I already get Philly & 8 from Lancaster.
Years ago I was testing the difference an amplifier made by simply unplugging the power inserter; it made a big difference as without the amplifer, the signal was snowy and with the amplifier it was clear. It wasn't until later when I was thinking about how the amplifier worked when I realized that the signal was still going through the amplifier even though I unplugged it. I was in high school then and was just learning about electronics.
Well great, does this mean my Televes 148381 antenna sucks now? At least it's doing its job, can't afford to replace it this early. Keep up the great work Kyle!
@@AntennaMan I guess your right I just assumed it was RF 3 given it is on 3-1. I knew RF channel was different than the call letters, but apparently it's different than the actual station number on the TV set.
Your dozens of RUclips are Great and I’ve learned a lot! Very educational but I have one suggestion and that’s so use your iPhone compass to help online are your directional antenna anyway you’re great I appreciate all your help you’ve given me thank you, next will be Tablo!
Definitely going to get one of these, but how can I boost the signal into the wires of my house and what size of coax should I use when I do so? Looks like you guys know a lot about this type of thing. Thank you
Thanks for the review. Wow, I'm super impressed how the "trash" abc channel was able to be picked up. Oh my, that antenna is almost $220 bucks, that's way beyond my budget my friend. I live about 18 miles from the main broadcast towers, and my "new upgraded rebuilt" or I should say (modified) antenna is now far better than it's original version 😅 darn thing didn't work that well, shucks, I really had to do it man 😆. And we get all channels now, I've added a reflector and a amplifier than into a slitter to 3 TV's. Works so flawless now all channels are from fair to excellent signal, and very stable, planes, cars, people, trees, apartment buildings etc. nothing interferes with it. And it only cost me less than $5 bucks to modify it. Heck, I love watching free over the air TV, and I sure love to watch it with no pixelation.
Just note: (It's an indoor/outdoor antenna) it's installed outdoors. It's original version only works with it's own amplifier, now it works with or without the amplifier. I modified it by removing the chip and replacing it with a 300 ohm to 75 ohm transformer by soldering the antenna element with two antenna wires to the transformer and plugged in to a coax coupler and sealed it with waterproof silicone, that's how I modified it myself.
I have the first generation of this antenna and am happy with it. However you did not mention whether or not you tested it with the preamp powered up. I'm guessing it was and if so I'm sorry but I would have expected to see much better results compared to the other two antennas. Testing an antenna with a preamp on it against one without is pretty much an apples to oranges kind of comparison. To be a fair comparison the other two antennas should have been connected to a quality preamp as well.
It doesn't matter if I had the preamp on or not because I only used a 10 foot coax cable. Preamps only prevent signal loss in a long coaxial cable. They don't magically bring in channels that aren't hitting the antenna in the first place.
@@kensmith5694 Still a little too directional to be permanently fixed in one direction as this is definitely the type of antenna you will put on a rotor.
@@jamesm568 That is only true if the stations are spread apart. For many in suburbia and slightly rural areas, all the stations they can get are nearly in the same direction. For some all the distant stations are in one direction and a few others are in a very different direction. For them a 2nd antenna is better than a rotor. If stations are in 3 or more directions, then it is time for a rotor.
@@AntennaMan right now I am using the GE Pro digital antenna rated for 80 miles upstairs in my house, but I assume if I had a quality antenna Like TheTELEVES, being it has the preamp and filters on it would work much better, Less Pixculation , then at some point I could put it outside
Antenna Man, I am a deeply dissatisfied spectrum customer who wants to cut the cord. What is the first step ? Buying an antenna or researching local stations or what ? How far can I expect to get a good signal and/or should price be my main concern ? You seem like the man to ask.
You can use my RUclips channel as a resource. Watch my antenna reviews and see which one is appropriate based on the frequencies/signal strength at your location. You can also sign up for an antenna recommendation from me at the link below: www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
With the Antenna Man’s help from the Chinese antenna company Televes, you can pickup the “Trash, Trash, Trash” Low-VHF signal of WPVI-TV “6abc” reliably with the DAT BOSS Mix Low-VHF/High-VHF/UHF antenna.
If your neighbor has an antenna and you have an antenna wouldn't it be cool to have a wireless connection between the two or more antennas to send/receive the strongest signal possible amongst the group of neighbors antennas. Crazy idea? I could be wrong.
Ten foot long yagi's in the old days for analoge, WOW, and these anemic digital signals need much help. I remember early mornings in the winter, due to tropospheric ducting could pick up analog TV stations several hundred miles away, not with digital.
The Televes preamp is a good one, but mine lasted less than a year. It died the other day, no lightening in the area, but I hate to spend another $80 for another one. I may buy the $40 Winegard.
Did you use a solid copper cable? If you used anything else like a copper clad steel coax cable that would be the reason the preamp failed. CCS will not carry the appropriate voltage and would cause any preamplifier to fail
@@AntennaMan I use good quality RG6 Quad or RG11 for all of my antennas. The 91XG I was using RG11. The Televes replaced a long-time work horse the Channel Master 7888. I must have had that up there for a good 10 years or more.
I wanted to revisit the Televes large outdoor TV antenna you recommended, as what you presented at that Texas Broadcasters convention. But wait, before I get to watch your video, I first had to watch an advertisement for one of those horrible small indoor antennas you tell your viewers to never buy. Fortunately a few seconds later I was able press the "skip" button. The irony.
Great video thanks for the info. In your review I noticed you didn't include the distance tested between you and the broadcast tower. Can you tell us what that distance was? Thanks again
Have you ever used an outdoor FM antenna to try to receive your low VHF RF channel 6? I live in a rural area (about 50 miles from the source) and have had great success with my Antennas Direct Yagi/rotator combination 25' up with no booster. I've used it in the summer to capture HD tropo and e-skip channels from several hundred miles away. We have a VHF RF channel 12 that the Antennas Direct ignores, but it brings in a reliable signal with my FM antenna. A friend had the challenge of trying to capture RF channel 3 from 50 miles away. He used an old, massive Channel Master from the 1960s with a low noise booster some 60' up. It captures RF 3, but ignores all UHF RF frequencies.
It seems to me is that if this antenna is that good coupled with the unpredictability of the FCC moving more TV Stations to Lo-VHF in the future, that people buy this antenna or Lo-VHF though to UHF basically from channels 2 to 36 from other manufacturers as well. I can imagine buying a Hi-VHF/UHF TV antenna as I did (CM-4228HD) only to have a TV Station in my area moved to Lo-VHF.
TYLAR, have you ever tried using a homemade antenna the is a 2 bay gray-hoverman type Sir ?? How about a double hoop antenna made by Mr. Hop To It on youtube ?? What do you think Tylar ?? They are a lot smaller in size but supposedly really killer performers according to many youtubers. I want to get the harader to reach stations. Thanks fella too. vf
Great video and review. How would you compare this to the winegard hd7698p? We need low V, as there are some stations using that. If you haven't can you do a comparison of those two antennas?
The price isn't that bad considering you get a large antenna, amplifier, and 5g filter in one. If you ordered all three separately for another antenna company you'd likely pay more.
I have asked this question before and I wanted to know I have three TVs and connecting a splitter breaks down the signal which you've mentioned. Could I connect three direct lines to this antenna from each TV to get the best signal this looks like a real quality antenna living in Rhode Island
Nah ... This antenna only supplies two direct outputs from coax outlets on the power inserter. So you're still going to have to use a 2 x 1 splitter on one of the lines.
I have one that broadcast on real ch 2... it's only 20 miles away, all others are 60 miles away... wildly, it's easier to pick up the ones farther away despite the power level of the vhf lo channel being quite high... the problem?... interference from vehicles on the hwy about a mile from my house... used to show up as sparkles in the old analog days.... FCC database suggest it might be swapping to uhf frequencies soon.
This antenna works. But if your in Midwest and get hit with high 30-60 plus winds during storms or winter months. It goes in and out. You have to go up on your roof often to adjust the Televes. It wiggles out of the longest extension over time (1-2) months during weather 😖 not good if you have to wait for someone to climb up on the roof!
TV stations dropping out on windy days is more of a problem with the fragile digital TV standard and not the antenna. See video below: ruclips.net/video/3x-FRMplIkU/видео.html
Several years ago my wife & I picked-up a new Winegard HD7697P, when a local Radio Shack Dealership was closing. It's still new in the box in our garage, & we've been thinking about installing a tower, as we'd prefer to not put a tripod on our roof. Any thoughts to where to purchase a tower, decent rotor & control box, as well as coax & connectors? The next step is finding a shop that still installs towers. We live in Central Illinois, about 45-miles away from Peoria, so the stations are quite a distance, & rabbit ears does't really work on the 1st floor. My daughter's room on the 2nd floor is able to receive several Peoria stations reliably, when it's decent weather. We're also shopping for ATSC 3 receivers, as the standard is changing. I'm open to your thoughts & suggestions. As always, we greatly value & appreciate your efforts.
Excellent review! Any recommendations for wireless streaming of an ota antenna signal? I would need to put the antenna about 75 feet away from my tv. Signal will be a clear line from tv to antenna.
I bought the original version of the Televes with the low VHF capability. From 25 miles away, I could not get channel,2, which is low power at 3000 W, with one edge diffraction. I was a bit surprised that this antenna worked because the one element that is live is actually an elongated loop antenna similar to UHF antenna. I’m a bit surprised that the addition of the “reflector“ actually made a difference. Great UHF capabilities though. My only issue with Televes is the couple of untactful engineers I talked to there.
Tyler, this is the antenna I want to buy for my house as I also live in the Philadelphia market just below Quakertown. I'm curious, did you happen to test it to see what other stations it may get from surrounding markets? As always, great job on the review!
I don't test other stations from other markets as it confuses people if I give them too much data - which is why I choose to test 4 UHF channels and one VHF channel. I just happened to see WNJS come through on a channel scan with this antenna.
Just installed this last night to replace an old radio shack giganntenna. It will not pickup rf 7 & 10, located 54 miles N, with or without built-in preamp on. Either the electronics are bad or Inspect these datboss antennas are mainly uhf with marginal VHF capabilities for strong signal areas. My range experts xp1500 with VHF, located 48 miles from the same towers, picks these channels up with signal strength & quality never lower than the 70s , at all times with no preamp & with 46 ft of coax. Took an expensive gamble, should've bought the superior American made product again. My only day off, with my kids home for the holidays to help me, wasted on a bad choice, when the best option was almost half priced. If I didn't have the cash invested, I would use it as target practice.
When you test these antennas, do you go directly from the preamp to your TV, or is it plugged into a splitter or powered splitter before the signal gets to your TV?
The VHF low band is not inherently bad. Shackleing the VHF-Low stations to an insanely low power allowance is a crime. 100kw should be the maximum on both VHF-Low *AND* VHF-High.
Yes, the FCC is starving TV stations of broadcast power they need to service their market. This is because they sold too much TV spectrum to cell phone companies and TV stations are now packed too close together. If their broadcast power is increased, they will interfere with each other.
@@AntennaMan If two stations broadcast with the same power and antenna, there will not be any more interference to either station. Furthermore, both stations will benefit from the power increases, inasmuch as lightning will not be getting a power increase.
I bought that exact antenna but found out I might be moving so I didn't install it yet, because I would like to pick up that trash channel 6 ABC Philadelphia at 59 miles away from Manheim PA and I lost 34.1 61 .1 ion Network about a year ago , Fox 29 RF 31 in the past couple months. I also bought a rotor the AR-500 (brand NEW but 10-20 yrs old on Mercari ) because because it's heavy duty and 500 yards of Channel Master rotor wire. I need a rotor because Baltimore is also 59 miles away 90° from Philly. I'll give results if I don't move, I've tried many antennas and got acceptable results with my Lava 2605 antenna ,one of Tyler's favorites 🤣🤣 The antenna that duplicated to 100 different brands.
With a built-in amplifier do people need RG6 Quad Shield Coax with a solid copper center wire? I tried that in 2018 with a Channel Master CM-4228HD and the CM-7778 preamp and Channel Master Quad Shield Coax with the copper coated steel center wire and the preamp and the power inserter burned out in 6 Months. This is key, the copper coated steel coax or CCS works just fine with indoor amplifiers and less likely to break while installing indoors because of the steel wire. One thing rarely mentioned is the 'skin effect' as TV signals travel on the edge of the wire not the core. The problem with preamps is that they send voltage through the coax that travels through the core of the wire and this is where copper is the right choice. It's only that section of coax between the power inserter and preamp that needs pure copper center wire in the coax. I didn't see this recommendation in the CM-7778 assembly instructions.
It is a great antenna much like the other designs Televes makes, but from what I understand it has very strong side rejection, so if you're trying to pick up multiple markets from different directions, it might not work for you.
Yes, you can put any antenna on a rotator. The cheap RCA rotator is probably too flimsy to hold this antenna so I'd recommend the HAM rotator below: www.dxengineering.com/parts/ysu-g-450adc
@@AntennaMan i put this on the rca rotator. 2 months so far . we will see after this winter here in sw indiana. i will add that when the wind blows i can see it does move some. not to happy about that. but rca is about hte only rotator out there
@@stevenmullens584 my Rotor I have to drop it again ( Spring ) in order to align it up so NW is actually NW ( like towards Cincinnati ) right now it is Blown from NW ( where I had it last ) it is pointing WSW ( sort of ) but the Dial shows it East. It is a RCA.... I think I am going to get 2 More Televes and Point one to Cincy, Lexington and maybe Charleston/ Huntington or Dayton, Cincy and Lexington and combine with a Dotkom? ( If that is the Name of it ) Tired of messing with the Rotor or save up for that HAM one^^^^.
So, what good rotor do you recommend? I'm in between two markets. Sounds like with this antenna, I don't need to buy a separate trap to block out cell. I have a tower within 2000ft or so, this sounds like the way to go.
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I have a story time related to this antenna: I was staying in the Phoenix area as I have some extended family who live in Arizona (an uncle of mine recently celebrated his 80th birthday this week) and I actually saw a TV-style antenna input for the FM section on a Bose radio in his house. That led me to think after getting into this video: are this antenna's low VHF (RF 2-6) elements tuned to also work with FM radio since it is so close to low-VHF TV in the United States?
I understand this antenna blocks FM signals so it does not interfere with VHF Low.
@@robertogalvez3865 That's too bad because were I to design an antenna for the North American TV region, I would tune the low VHF elements to receive FM radio as a single cohesive section tuned to 54-108 MHz, with the notable exception of the 4 MHz gap at 72-76 MHz.
link to the hi vhf version?
Will grounding pretext a Amplifier on your Antenna?
The fact that you were finally able to pick up 6 ABC reliably with this antenna really says a lot, and shows plenty of promise for it!
This was one of the best TV antenna reviews ever. Kyle, you hit this one out of the park! I'm tempted to buy this aerial to finally capture 6ABC's wide airwaves in OCNJ. Miracles do happen.
ABC is the American Brainwashing Company !!!
I'm having it installed in Bethlehem, Pa next week. Fingers crossed, because it didn't pick up abc6 from my yard ..hoping the final mount on the roof (about 30 up) will work
@George Nassif ;
So how did it turn out? ....
Are you able the get the "trash" signal from ABC 6 with this antenna yet?
@@gsnassif Oh, how'd it go? Were you able to pickup ABC6, what about MEtv2? I'm in the valley myself, so I'm well aware how illusive those pesky VHF-low channels really are. 😅
I purchased the Televes dat boss...according to antenna web, I can NOT get OTA reception in my area. Well, We put this antenna on a 40 ft tower....86 CHANNELS! I bought it because of your reviews. Thank you sooo much. After 20 years, we finally got to kick DTV to the curb! It's been up a month now paired with a Tablo Quad. So although there is a learning curve...I am happy! Thank you for all of your honest reviews. THIS ANTENNA IS THE BOSS!
How far are you from the transmitting towers?
I tested and reviewed the smaller version of this antenna with Low VHF elements, picked up RF 2, 4 and 9 very well. Good quality antennas from Televes.👍
Televes continues to knock it out of the park! I have the Dinova Boss Mix thanks to Tyler’s recommendation and it’s works fantastic! The company really knows what they’re doing!
I have the same antenna, it has been great hanging out in my attic.
@@AlGoYoSu I don’t have an attic but it works great on my roof.
@@JoshRazauskas Mine's on the roof too. Works good, and doesn't look too 'antenna-ish'.
Televes really is a great antenna company. They put their money where their mouth is and they don't disappoint.
Thank You Tyler. I live in Simi Valley, California. I have had this antenna on a 10 foot mast on top of my roof for about 6 months now. It is plugged directly into a Tablo 4 tuner recorder . It is aimed due west towards Mt Wilson . Despite a small mountain ridge between us and no direct line of sight to Mt Wison I am able to pickup 81 useable channels . I have nothing but good to say about my reception. I do have one problem now with our windy season upon us. I need to get back up on the roof and beef up the antenna tripod and mast. I may need to add some guy wires to keep the antenna up and pointed in the right direction. I have tried lesser antennas with mixed results . This Televes does the job. My thanks to Tyler. You provide a very usefull service ! ! !
I use this exact antenna as I have a major broadcast station (CBS) that broadcasts on Low-VHF channel 3. Nothing but great things to say about this antenna. Thanks for the review.
Just wondering. Would that station be WCIA?
@@1L6E6VHF no CBS affiliate KDLO
I bought this antenna after watching Tyler's review and I can honestly say this antenna knocks it out of the park. Here in NYC there are several TV stations still using the LOW VHF band and I was having a heckuva time trying to pull them in with my 25 year old old massive VHF/UHF antenna that was falling apart. I wound purchasing a bunch of antennas as time went by and they were hopelessly inept in pulling in the Low VHF stations. It's an excellent antenna - I get around 75 stations now, so thanks Tyler for the antenna review.
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My son bought this antenna at Bess Electronics in Burnsville MN. Those guys are great and very helpful. My son lives in town about 30 miles south of them so he picked it up in person. We installed it in the attic of his garage and picks up Minneapolis/St Paul channels crystal clear.
I just put this up on my house yesterday and I've gotta say I'm thoroughly impressed. I'm about 75 miles from the broadcasting towers and I got 107 channels with excellent signal strength.
Happy to see a company still innovating the in the OTA space.
Just installed this antenna, and it works great! Picks up 27 total channels in Green Bay 80 miles away.
It can be a little overwhelming to put together at first but gets easier once you get the parts organized and you need to remember to get the coaxial cable as it's not included in the $179 Antenna from Menards.
Awesome antenna overall
What city are you in? Can you hit Madison and Milwaukee?
I enjoy your channel, I started using a flat antenna 📡 a couple years ago, I agree, they are junk. I have a 25 year old antenna about 15 feet in the air that I wasn't using so I hooked it up and now have better reception than ever, thanks for your help
I know this is older, however for new folks finding this channel, I just installed this antenna (2024 purchase new) for my pops in Georgetown Florida along with the RCA outdoor antenna rotator @20 feet plus the 3 feet above the rotator, 70 channels from Orlando south direction and 69 channels from Jacksonville North directions. I recommend this antenna also as it is a long range beast!
You are doing good Tyler getting more sponsors. God bless you.
"Automatically adjusts the (amplifier) gain as needed."
A smart, powerless preamplifier that senses what amperage is necessary, if any.
That's encouraging.
This feature is very helpful for people in heavily wooded areas where signals might otherwise be overloaded with multipath on windy days. It's not say it will stop drop outs in that situation entirely but it should limit them.
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That's insightful to know. I'm not in a heavily wooded area here in Fort Lauderdale where there's many towers.
But I am prone to winds causing signal breakup, presumably by blowing tree branches in the pathway, but yes, perhaps multipath, but I'm most intrigued because I have some towers very close where any amplification disrupts the picture, yet also, have access to some towers which are further away where subtle, smart amplification should be useful.
@@c2jones I'm in the exact same boat! Windy days cause pixelation on selected channels...but only on ONE of my TV's! (the one with the shortest coax that's closest to the antennas) I use 2 antennas for the scenario you described (one of them is a Televes). I've always wondered if my situation could also be multipath as well.
Thanks!
Thanks Ben!
Now that we're near the end of the year, I can't wait to see all the so called updated 2023 model Antenna's on the market.
I think this model should be "up to date" for a while. The updates came with the FCC repack a few years ago. It took a while for Televes to update their antennas because of supply chain issues.
Good job Tyler! I am glad that you were able to pick up the station! 🙀
Low VHF antennas are good for FM reception and DX.
Great review.
Great job Tyler. Sounds like the new antenna I need. I get 26 channels now but there are 18 more that I could be getting. I will check out the link through you when I am ready to buy it soon.
After watching this channel... and reading/listening to all of the complaints about ABC6 reception, I was surprised when my 4V picked up the channel perfectly, from my attic, at almost 50 miles away.
The next day, not so much.. garbled mess. I started kicking myself.. why didn't I get an antenna actually constructed for low VHF??? I thought it was impossible to get this channel from my location using an attic antenna.
The early brief success gave me hope though... after many hours of research, trial and error... I was able to modify the dipole and find a location in the attic to where I am able to receive the channel perfectly at all times (so far).
Remember in the analog days that Low-VHF was the most desirable position and provided the best signal coverage. I'm guessing that WCBS and WNBC could have any channel they wanted and chose channels 2 and 4.
This is no longer the case thanks to a ton of interference from electronics that didn't exist 70 years ago
I just installed this antenna at my Quakertown home and it has not only given me more channels but they are all rock solid! I even get Philly channel 6!
I wonder if it would be better if I add in the amplifier provided with the antenna? 🤣
Ok, I had to try it first before plugging in the amp power supply but, since it worked so darned good, I just haven’t bothered yet!
Thanks so much for the antenna recommendation, Tyler!
It's nice to see something different in the antenna world besides the 10x or yagi from the 50s and 60s. If there were anything on television worth watching, I'd give it a try 😉
The low VHF channels were preferred by TV stations in the analog era and VHF in general was preferred as well because UHF doesn’t cover rugged terrain very well in the analog days but it seems like UHF favors Digital signals better than VHF where it’s the opposite for Analog signals
That and everyone seems to hate big antennas cus they're "ugly"
Not really. UHF still has less distance coverage than VHF High or VHF Low, they can run a million watts and still miss the valleys.
The exception is tropospheric refraction conditions. These are abnormal propagation conditions, in which TV signals can follow the curve of the earth between two layers of different layers of air.
In one case, I (in Michigan) saw Little Rock (AR) stations on Channels 4 and 7, even as a channel 7 station in Evansville (IN) could not be seen, having been caught inside the duct.
My area has two stations that have been on VHF-Hi channels all their life, even on digital today (11 and 13).
And the sad thing is that the FCC still doesn't get it, it doesn't matter if it's digital or analog those are RF signals and they will travel the same regardless of how they are modulated and we all know the higher the frequency the shorter the wavelengths get and in order to cover the same area you need more power and even if they say a million watts digital is equal to 5 million watts analog is a bunch of bull because it's still a radio wave and it still reacts the same regardless of if it's digital or analog and the only reason why VHF Low is being called trash is because it's more prone to interference than VHF Hi or UHF which at the current power levels would make digital transmissions worthless and all TV channels are subject to trop and e-skip the only reason why we have the trash channels of 2-6 is because of the lobbies in Washington that are backed by the cable TV and satellite providers because they know going in that their service was far superior then over the air broadcast signals but when the government mandated that TV stations go digital in order to provide high-definition that's when the death cry was sounded for cable and satellite because TV stations didn't need to invest heavily in their over the air facility because they were getting big bucks from cable and satellite in retransmission fees and they only needed to provide a high quality signal to the cable or satellite headend because the number of people that were getting TV through an antenna had been dropping like a rock to the point where almost everyone was hooked up to cable or had a satellite dish soap the regular over the air TV using an antenna was becoming a dinosaur, so the government in a last ditch effort to save broadcast TV from becoming pay only came up with the idea of going digital and hi-def and that meant that TV stations didn't have to rely on cable and satellite for the money needed to stay on the air they could rely on advertising for that like it's always been, but when the cable and satellite lobbies seen how much better than quality of the over the air signal was to what anyone would get from cable or satellite they started shaking in their boots because now the TV stations themselves were going to pose a real threat to the wellbeing of cable and satellite TV so they had to get their lobbyists in Washington to do something to make Congress pressure the FCC to do something, and what they came up with was to on purpose degrade TV signals to the point where nobody would have a choice but to get cable or satellite and the way the FCC did it was by making every full power TV station digital just to appease the broadcasters and by making all TV low power TV so the cable and satellite providers are happy because by keeping everything low power it basically makes every TV signal trash especially on VHF-Low (channels 2-6) and add in the crappy 8VSB modulated scheme, where if they had just went with COFDM like the rest of the world and kept the power levels the same as they were during the analog era Channels 2-6 wouldn't be trash because every TV station on 2-6 would still be running 100 Kw instead of 20Kw (7-13 would still be at 316Kw and not the 36Kw now and 14+ would still be at max 5 Mw and not 1Mw) because it would take into account for terrain and the limitations of the RF signals
It would be interesting to see how the new design compares to the old one.
Great video. I cut the cable cord a long time ago and this information is great. I really appreciate it. Thanks.
Great stuff. As a ham radio operator, I am always looking for ways to build VHF, UHF antennas. Finding parts, aluminium tubing and fixtures is the problem. Is there a catalog I could look at?
Thanks.
Looks like a really good product.
Hello Tyler. You may remember me asking some things about analog tv reception and analog shutoff here in Argentina. I just wanna say that the shutdown has not happened yet so i can keep using my analog tv
Thanks Antenna Man, free TV & radio 4 ever!
I used to get Whyy.
Years ago. I Get Wpvi6 & Wgal8, Njn23...but 12 whyy never any more.
I used to get it weak. Where Im at I have an old Large outdoor Baltimore antenna that if connected I can get WJZ13 & WBAL11 Baltimore...I wonder if a new Televes would pick up more Baltimore stations.
I already get Philly & 8 from Lancaster.
Years ago I was testing the difference an amplifier made by simply unplugging the power inserter; it made a big difference as without the amplifer, the signal was snowy and with the amplifier it was clear. It wasn't until later when I was thinking about how the amplifier worked when I realized that the signal was still going through the amplifier even though I unplugged it.
I was in high school then and was just learning about electronics.
Well great, does this mean my Televes 148381 antenna sucks now? At least it's doing its job, can't afford to replace it this early. Keep up the great work Kyle!
No, it just means that this one is a slightly improvement. If your current Televes antenna works fine you can keep it.
My CBS is RF channel 3. It's only 10 miles from my house however so I didn't consider low VHF when choosing an antenna.
Which channel is that?
@@AntennaMan KDLO in South Dakota I think?
@@AntennaMan I guess your right I just assumed it was RF 3 given it is on 3-1. I knew RF channel was different than the call letters, but apparently it's different than the actual station number on the TV set.
@@ASMRPeople WWMT is actually on RF channel 8, which is hi-VHF
@@Hogstuff NBC wood TV 8 is on RF channel 8. Perhaps WWMT is on RF channel 8 in kalamazoo.
FINALLY!!! One that can reliably pick up WPVI!
Your dozens of RUclips are Great and I’ve learned a lot! Very educational but I have one suggestion and that’s so use your iPhone compass to help online are your directional antenna anyway you’re great I appreciate all your help you’ve given me thank you, next will be Tablo!
Definitely going to get one of these, but how can I boost the signal into the wires of my house and what size of coax should I use when I do so? Looks like you guys know a lot about this type of thing. Thank you
Sounds like an awesome antenna to be using for watching TV
Televes Omninova ! Review needed PLEASE ! And Thanks Again !
Only if Televes sponsors it as my reviews of their antennas perform poorly compared to smaller, more popular antennas.
Thanks for the review. Wow, I'm super impressed how the "trash" abc channel was able to be picked up. Oh my, that antenna is almost $220 bucks, that's way beyond my budget my friend. I live about 18 miles from the main broadcast towers, and my "new upgraded rebuilt" or I should say (modified) antenna is now far better than it's original version 😅 darn thing didn't work that well, shucks, I really had to do it man 😆. And we get all channels now, I've added a reflector and a amplifier than into a slitter to 3 TV's. Works so flawless now all channels are from fair to excellent signal, and very stable, planes, cars, people, trees, apartment buildings etc. nothing interferes with it. And it only cost me less than $5 bucks to modify it. Heck, I love watching free over the air TV, and I sure love to watch it with no pixelation.
Just note: (It's an indoor/outdoor antenna) it's installed outdoors. It's original version only works with it's own amplifier, now it works with or without the amplifier. I modified it by removing the chip and replacing it with a 300 ohm to 75 ohm transformer by soldering the antenna element with two antenna wires to the transformer and plugged in to a coax coupler and sealed it with waterproof silicone, that's how I modified it myself.
DO you sell this antenna on your store Tylar ?? I need low VHF is a must as I am trying to get channel 6 Sir. Thanks v
Thank you so much Antenna man !!
Sounds like a robust R&D department able to make efficient improvements in their product(s).
I have the first generation of this antenna and am happy with it. However you did not mention whether or not you tested it with the preamp powered up. I'm guessing it was and if so I'm sorry but I would have expected to see much better results compared to the other two antennas. Testing an antenna with a preamp on it against one without is pretty much an apples to oranges kind of comparison. To be a fair comparison the other two antennas should have been connected to a quality preamp as well.
It doesn't matter if I had the preamp on or not because I only used a 10 foot coax cable. Preamps only prevent signal loss in a long coaxial cable. They don't magically bring in channels that aren't hitting the antenna in the first place.
Congratulations for achieving the near-impossible reception of WPVI!
Kyle. You totally rocked it with this review. Thank you. Amp and antenna under $250. I'm going for it.
Damn good antenna as my only gripe with them is they're highly directional.
The directional antenna is just what you need for distant stations. It prevents noise from the side and back from messing up the signal.
Right on the money! This a Long Range (LR) antenna and it needs to be highly directional to do its "magic".
@@robertogalvez3865 Yep, a perfect antenna to put on a rotor.
@@kensmith5694 Still a little too directional to be permanently fixed in one direction as this is definitely the type of antenna you will put on a rotor.
@@jamesm568 That is only true if the stations are spread apart. For many in suburbia and slightly rural areas, all the stations they can get are nearly in the same direction. For some all the distant stations are in one direction and a few others are in a very different direction. For them a 2nd antenna is better than a rotor. If stations are in 3 or more directions, then it is time for a rotor.
My "trash" signal is PBS WQED 13 rf 4 out of Pittsburg. This antenna should arrive on Sunday. Will keep you posted.
That would be an excellent antenna for where I live as I have a CBS affiliate that broadcasts on low VHF channel 4.
Will the TELEVES work good in an inside attic type situation? Thanks in advance, Tyler, great video
Yes, you can put any antenna in the attic.
@@AntennaMan right now I am using the GE Pro digital antenna rated for 80 miles upstairs in my house, but I assume if I had a quality antenna Like TheTELEVES, being it has the preamp and filters on it would work much better, Less Pixculation , then at some point I could put it outside
Antenna Man, I am a deeply dissatisfied spectrum customer who wants to cut the cord. What is the first step ? Buying an antenna or researching local stations or what ? How far can I expect to get a good signal and/or should price be my main concern ? You seem like the man to ask.
You can use my RUclips channel as a resource. Watch my antenna reviews and see which one is appropriate based on the frequencies/signal strength at your location. You can also sign up for an antenna recommendation from me at the link below: www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
With the Antenna Man’s help from the Chinese antenna company Televes, you can pickup the “Trash, Trash, Trash” Low-VHF signal of WPVI-TV “6abc” reliably with the DAT BOSS Mix Low-VHF/High-VHF/UHF antenna.
If your neighbor has an antenna and you have an antenna wouldn't it be cool to have a wireless connection between the two or more antennas to send/receive the strongest signal possible amongst the group of neighbors antennas. Crazy idea? I could be wrong.
Ten foot long yagi's in the old days for analoge, WOW, and these anemic digital signals need much help. I remember
early mornings in the winter, due to tropospheric ducting could pick up analog TV stations several hundred miles away, not with digital.
Of course, built in amplifier also means if it does go bad you have to replace the entire antenna instead of just the amplifier.
Yes, you do post cool videos! 👏
The Televes preamp is a good one, but mine lasted less than a year. It died the other day, no lightening in the area, but I hate to spend another $80 for another one. I may buy the $40 Winegard.
Did you use a solid copper cable? If you used anything else like a copper clad steel coax cable that would be the reason the preamp failed. CCS will not carry the appropriate voltage and would cause any preamplifier to fail
@@AntennaMan I use good quality RG6 Quad or RG11 for all of my antennas. The 91XG I was using RG11. The Televes replaced a long-time work horse the Channel Master 7888. I must have had that up there for a good 10 years or more.
I wanted to revisit the Televes large outdoor TV antenna you recommended, as what you presented at that Texas Broadcasters convention. But wait, before I get to watch your video, I first had to watch an advertisement for one of those horrible small indoor antennas you tell your viewers to never buy. Fortunately a few seconds later I was able press the "skip" button. The irony.
I was just looking at these earlier today, shame I'd purchased the amplifier beginning of this week
The features on this antenna is a redesign that works
ok so yeah I know you said you weren't going to do it but I still want to see the televes indoor antenna it also lets people know it's bad
Great video thanks for the info. In your review I noticed you didn't include the distance tested between you and the broadcast tower. Can you tell us what that distance was? Thanks again
The distance was shown on the chart of TV stations but it's about 45 miles.
I hope a lot of Philadelphians get this antenna
Have you ever used an outdoor FM antenna to try to receive your low VHF RF channel 6? I live in a rural area (about 50 miles from the source) and have had great success with my Antennas Direct Yagi/rotator combination 25' up with no booster. I've used it in the summer to capture HD tropo and e-skip channels from several hundred miles away. We have a VHF RF channel 12 that the Antennas Direct ignores, but it brings in a reliable signal with my FM antenna. A friend had the challenge of trying to capture RF channel 3 from 50 miles away. He used an old, massive Channel Master from the 1960s with a low noise booster some 60' up. It captures RF 3, but ignores all UHF RF frequencies.
It seems to me is that if this antenna is that good coupled with the unpredictability of the FCC moving more TV Stations to Lo-VHF in the future, that people buy this antenna or Lo-VHF though to UHF basically from channels 2 to 36 from other manufacturers as well. I can imagine buying a Hi-VHF/UHF TV antenna as I did (CM-4228HD) only to have a TV Station in my area moved to Lo-VHF.
Correct, this is a good antenna that's "future proof"
TYLAR, have you ever tried using a homemade antenna the is a 2 bay gray-hoverman type Sir ?? How about a double hoop antenna made by Mr. Hop To It on youtube ?? What do you think Tylar ?? They are a lot smaller in size but supposedly really killer performers according to many youtubers. I want to get the harader to reach stations. Thanks fella too. vf
Hej Tyler. Szkoda, że nie zainwestujesz w miernik, pomiary w procentach nie nadają się do porównań. Pozdrawiam
Great video and review. How would you compare this to the winegard hd7698p? We need low V, as there are some stations using that. If you haven't can you do a comparison of those two antennas?
Shame the price is on the salty side fella. I am someone who want to get the trash 2 to 6 channels. Nice video antenna man. .
The price isn't that bad considering you get a large antenna, amplifier, and 5g filter in one. If you ordered all three separately for another antenna company you'd likely pay more.
I have asked this question before and I wanted to know I have three TVs and connecting a splitter breaks down the signal which you've mentioned. Could I connect three direct lines to this antenna from each TV to get the best signal this looks like a real quality antenna living in Rhode Island
Nah ...
This antenna only supplies two direct outputs from coax outlets on the power inserter. So you're still going to have to use a 2 x 1 splitter on one of the lines.
I have one that broadcast on real ch 2... it's only 20 miles away, all others are 60 miles away... wildly, it's easier to pick up the ones farther away despite the power level of the vhf lo channel being quite high... the problem?... interference from vehicles on the hwy about a mile from my house... used to show up as sparkles in the old analog days.... FCC database suggest it might be swapping to uhf frequencies soon.
hey you forgot the comparison of WNJS between previous Televes antenna along with WDPN
This antenna works. But if your in Midwest and get hit with high 30-60 plus winds during storms or winter months. It goes in and out. You have to go up on your roof often to adjust the Televes. It wiggles out of the longest extension over time (1-2) months during weather 😖 not good if you have to wait for someone to climb up on the roof!
TV stations dropping out on windy days is more of a problem with the fragile digital TV standard and not the antenna. See video below: ruclips.net/video/3x-FRMplIkU/видео.html
Several years ago my wife & I picked-up a new Winegard HD7697P, when a local Radio Shack Dealership was closing. It's still new in the box in our garage, & we've been thinking about installing a tower, as we'd prefer to not put a tripod on our roof. Any thoughts to where to purchase a tower, decent rotor & control box, as well as coax & connectors? The next step is finding a shop that still installs towers. We live in Central Illinois, about 45-miles away from Peoria, so the stations are quite a distance, & rabbit ears does't really work on the 1st floor. My daughter's room on the 2nd floor is able to receive several Peoria stations reliably, when it's decent weather.
We're also shopping for ATSC 3 receivers, as the standard is changing.
I'm open to your thoughts & suggestions. As always, we greatly value & appreciate your efforts.
Excellent review! Any recommendations for wireless streaming of an ota antenna signal? I would need to put the antenna about 75 feet away from my tv. Signal will be a clear line from tv to antenna.
I bought the original version of the Televes with the low VHF capability. From 25 miles away, I could not get channel,2, which is low power at 3000 W, with one edge diffraction. I was a bit surprised that this antenna worked because the one element that is live is actually an elongated loop antenna similar to UHF antenna. I’m a bit surprised that the addition of the “reflector“ actually made a difference. Great UHF capabilities though. My only issue with Televes is the couple of untactful engineers I talked to there.
Question regarding the low VHF element, can it also help pick up high VHF broadcast making a better reception?
I don't believe so. To get better high VHF reception you need more high VHF elements on an antenna.
Tyler, this is the antenna I want to buy for my house as I also live in the Philadelphia market just below Quakertown. I'm curious, did you happen to test it to see what other stations it may get from surrounding markets? As always, great job on the review!
I don't test other stations from other markets as it confuses people if I give them too much data - which is why I choose to test 4 UHF channels and one VHF channel. I just happened to see WNJS come through on a channel scan with this antenna.
I hear WPVI was offered a UHF channel, but declined it. Oh, there is a low band VHF channel (2) in Charlottesville VA or Harrisonburg VA.
Management of WPVI in the 90s/2000s really hurt over the air viewers in the area by staying on the trash low VHF band.
Just installed this last night to replace an old radio shack giganntenna. It will not pickup rf 7 & 10, located 54 miles N, with or without built-in preamp on. Either the electronics are bad or Inspect these datboss antennas are mainly uhf with marginal VHF capabilities for strong signal areas. My range experts xp1500 with VHF, located 48 miles from the same towers, picks these channels up with signal strength & quality never lower than the 70s , at all times with no preamp & with 46 ft of coax. Took an expensive gamble, should've bought the superior American made product again. My only day off, with my kids home for the holidays to help me, wasted on a bad choice, when the best option was almost half priced. If I didn't have the cash invested, I would use it as target practice.
When you test these antennas, do you go directly from the preamp to your TV, or is it plugged into a splitter or powered splitter before the signal gets to your TV?
For those not familliar with dBs, +3dB = double the power received, +6dB = quadruple!
The VHF low band is not inherently bad.
Shackleing the VHF-Low stations to an insanely low power allowance is a crime.
100kw should be the maximum on both VHF-Low *AND* VHF-High.
Yes, the FCC is starving TV stations of broadcast power they need to service their market. This is because they sold too much TV spectrum to cell phone companies and TV stations are now packed too close together. If their broadcast power is increased, they will interfere with each other.
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If two stations broadcast with the same power and antenna, there will not be any more interference to either station.
Furthermore, both stations will benefit from the power increases, inasmuch as lightning will not be getting a power increase.
@@1L6E6VHF maybe lightning will
Dang I’m too Olde 🎅🏻to get back in my attic space. I have a ten footer up there. Originally my neighborhood was HOA. So no roof top and a rotor 🤬
I bought that exact antenna but found out I might be moving so I didn't install it yet, because I would like to pick up that trash channel 6 ABC Philadelphia at 59 miles away from Manheim PA and I lost 34.1 61 .1 ion Network about a year ago , Fox 29 RF 31 in the past couple months. I also bought a rotor the AR-500 (brand NEW but 10-20 yrs old on Mercari ) because because it's heavy duty and 500 yards of Channel Master rotor wire. I need a rotor because Baltimore is also 59 miles away 90° from Philly. I'll give results if I don't move, I've tried many antennas and got acceptable results with my Lava 2605 antenna ,one of Tyler's favorites 🤣🤣
The antenna that duplicated to 100 different brands.
With a built-in amplifier do people need RG6 Quad Shield Coax with a solid copper center wire? I tried that in 2018 with a Channel Master CM-4228HD and the CM-7778 preamp and Channel Master Quad Shield Coax with the copper coated steel center wire and the preamp and the power inserter burned out in 6 Months. This is key, the copper coated steel coax or CCS works just fine with indoor amplifiers and less likely to break while installing indoors because of the steel wire. One thing rarely mentioned is the 'skin effect' as TV signals travel on the edge of the wire not the core. The problem with preamps is that they send voltage through the coax that travels through the core of the wire and this is where copper is the right choice. It's only that section of coax between the power inserter and preamp that needs pure copper center wire in the coax. I didn't see this recommendation in the CM-7778 assembly instructions.
Yes, it needs to be solid copper or it may cause the amp to fail over time. See video below. ruclips.net/video/oGHgQE3ztNU/видео.html
It is a great antenna much like the other designs Televes makes, but from what I understand it has very strong side rejection, so if you're trying to pick up multiple markets from different directions, it might not work for you.
On the other hand, you may put your antenna on an antenna rotator and see even more stations.
Which TV brand is usually considered to have a good receiver for current antenna TV reception
See video below: ruclips.net/video/06X-MXUfU1U/видео.html
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Great Video !
With my antenna made from a wire coat hanger and aluminum foil, I can get Hee Haw, a MexicanAM RADIO and the morning farm report. Im satisfied.
You think it'd be OK to put this on a rotor? If so, which rotor would you recommend?
Yes, you can put any antenna on a rotator. The cheap RCA rotator is probably too flimsy to hold this antenna so I'd recommend the HAM rotator below: www.dxengineering.com/parts/ysu-g-450adc
@@AntennaMan i put this on the rca rotator. 2 months so far . we will see after this winter here in sw indiana. i will add that when the wind blows i can see it does move some. not to happy about that. but rca is about hte only rotator out there
@@stevenmullens584 my Rotor I have to drop it again ( Spring ) in order to align it up so NW is actually NW ( like towards Cincinnati ) right now it is Blown from NW ( where I had it last ) it is pointing WSW ( sort of ) but the Dial shows it East. It is a RCA.... I think I am going to get 2 More Televes and Point one to Cincy, Lexington and maybe Charleston/ Huntington or Dayton, Cincy and Lexington and combine with a Dotkom? ( If that is the Name of it ) Tired of messing with the Rotor or save up for that HAM one^^^^.
So, what good rotor do you recommend? I'm in between two markets. Sounds like with this antenna, I don't need to buy a separate trap to block out cell. I have a tower within 2000ft or so, this sounds like the way to go.
Ok pics up 6 ABC, how bought metv in the Philadelphia area?
i would like see you compare this antenna to the largest channel master