Thanks for posting this. I’m looking forward to when someone shows the technical details on the Home integration system with DC coupled solar and a stationary battery. I think the truck plus smaller stationary battery could be a win. If there’s provision to efficiently dc charge the truck from solar would be excellent!
@@offgridwanabe check out the comments on their last video. Initial issues but resolved after a possible update. I'm hopeful that this system will function as advertised...
I also hope I'm wrong about that. The documentation with this unit is terrible. I couldn't find an installation manual anywhere and just went off the Sunrun training and Google docs commissioning guide. They're really vague.
Ben is correct. This first version won't charge the truck battery from solar. If you do have solar active though, it will use that and not need as much power from the truck.
I'm keeping in the back of my mind that the existing power delivery infrastructure is not equipped to handle mass adoption of these types of "batteries with wheels", hence power source diversification.a design with the inability to charge off solar is heading backwards, IMHO.
Will Prowse bought a used F150 and tried to use the power integration features but ended up returning the truck because it had "issues". I don't like the idea that a third party remote entity is responsible for commissioning the device. ... that's pretty fkin stupid - I guess that's the way of the world these days, more idiotic by the day. Try to find the video by Will, I'd post a link but since I'm one of the naughty ones YT will delete my coM-menT 100%.
I've stopped watching his stuff... he just whines about everything and never actually does anything. It seems to be working for him, but honestly, it's boring. I totally agree about the 3rd part commissioning. Ford made a deal with sunrun to sell and commission all of the equipment apparently. At least I was able to get right through to them and delta when I had questions.
@@benssolarandbattery Regarding Will, I unsubscribed almost a year ago because the complaining got rather tiresome. His stuff still gets recommended to me every now and again and the F150 one sounded interesting and ultimately unintentionally hilarious.
Really great way to destroy the battery in your Truck because it has about 1200 cycles to 80% and you're just using those powering a house with battery technology that shouldn't be used to power houses. (you should be using LiFePO4 with 6000+ cycle life) And it isn't even as if this is an economical battery that is cheap to replace. This is a $25,000 battery pack that you're degrading for 0 real world benefit. And it isn't even if these trucks don't absolutely suck in the winter time with range, which you're stealing to put into your house. "Cheap home power backup system!" Nope, not at all. "Short sighted home power backup system!" is more like it. Over the lifetime of the truck doing this with any frequency at all, you'd be orders of magnitude cheaper to buy a cheap Growatt portable inverter. Or you know, a propane generator. There is absolutely no intelligent case for V2G. Not one. In every case, there is no economic model where it doesn't cost you VASTLY more than it saves you.
If you use this for occasional emergency backup, those extra couple cycles on the battery are nothing. And the power in and out of the battery in the V2H or V2G scenarios is nothing compared to driving the vehicle and regen.
@@billjohnson3344 if you use heat pumps for heating and cooling + electric hot water it’s about the same per day as a full 10/90 charge. And yes, if you did this 10 times a year for 50 cycles you’ll notice. Especially since the range drop is already massively bad in the winter AND when you use this because the power goes out you now don’t have a charged vehicle in said emergency. Meanwhile a growatt with the same output will cost you $1500.
@@jameshancock Show me that Growatt for $1500 that has a 130kWh battery and 9.6kW split phase output power and I'm sold. Clearly not apples to apples, not sure of your point there. The advantage of the truck is having a giant battery, versus home storage at much higher kWh / $ pricing. The emergency power use-case is quite compelling, and no impact to the battery life for the handful of times you'd use it.
@@billjohnson3344 5kw output, parallelizable if you want and up to 15kw per unit. And it won’t wear your $25,000 battery that has 1300 cycles to 80%. It’s on their website.
@@jameshancock Still not understanding how you propose a 5kW inverter with no batteries is somehow better than the truck backup solution with 9.6kW inverter and gigantic 130kWh battery. And who cares if that battery is rated for 1300 cycles (which I've never seen stated), if I were to use even 10 of those cycles for emergency backup over the life of the truck? Just not following what concern you have, or how your lesser solution is even close in function, total cost, or utility.
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My two favorite lines:
"Get the thingy to take that off"
And
"Try to pull it off the wall"
Lol. We have a fun time working together. 🤪
HOWdy B-S&B, ...
Fascinated by the TRUCK reverse POWERING the HOME ...
Thanks
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the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA
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Sol-ark needs this integration ASAP.
Ben let us know how it goes... Will took his back.. Keep it up brother
Most of Will’s content is informative. His recent F150 Lightning video felt like low effort entertainment.
That is SICK!! Thanks for sharing brother. God Bless..
Awesome sauce! Although I’ll never financially own one
Thanks for posting this. I’m looking forward to when someone shows the technical details on the Home integration system with DC coupled solar and a stationary battery. I think the truck plus smaller stationary battery could be a win. If there’s provision to efficiently dc charge the truck from solar would be excellent!
BEN, THANKS FOR SHARING!
Fantastic! Do you have a collection of photos (the kind an installer would like to see?)
20,000 or so... my "memories" on Google photos are hilarious. Remember when you wired an inverter on this day 8 years ago?
@@benssolarandbattery Haha i have so many "memories" of burned up solaredge boards... lol
i feel your pain
On the next one run a load lol Lots of people have problem over 4500 watts but likely because they are AC coupled.
Nothing is AC coupled here. It pulls DC from the truck to the 9.6kW inverter. Who is having issues? (Links? I'm really curious)
@@benssolarandbattery if you can get 9600 watts out of the on board generator why do they need another inverter inside the house.
@@benssolarandbattery Transport evolved did a video on it
@@offgridwanabe thanks! I'll check it out.
@@offgridwanabe check out the comments on their last video. Initial issues but resolved after a possible update. I'm hopeful that this system will function as advertised...
Thats a lot of battery storage. Storage on wheels .
At 7:36, I had to do a double-take. "I don't believe that it will charge off solar". I hope that is inaccurate.
I also hope I'm wrong about that. The documentation with this unit is terrible. I couldn't find an installation manual anywhere and just went off the Sunrun training and Google docs commissioning guide. They're really vague.
Ben is correct. This first version won't charge the truck battery from solar. If you do have solar active though, it will use that and not need as much power from the truck.
I'm keeping in the back of my mind that the existing power delivery infrastructure is not equipped to handle mass adoption of these types of "batteries with wheels", hence power source diversification.a design with the inability to charge off solar is heading backwards, IMHO.
Will Prowse bought a used F150 and tried to use the power integration features but ended up returning the truck because it had "issues". I don't like the idea that a third party remote entity is responsible for commissioning the device. ... that's pretty fkin stupid - I guess that's the way of the world these days, more idiotic by the day. Try to find the video by Will, I'd post a link but since I'm one of the naughty ones YT will delete my coM-menT 100%.
I've stopped watching his stuff... he just whines about everything and never actually does anything. It seems to be working for him, but honestly, it's boring.
I totally agree about the 3rd part commissioning. Ford made a deal with sunrun to sell and commission all of the equipment apparently. At least I was able to get right through to them and delta when I had questions.
@@benssolarandbattery Regarding Will, I unsubscribed almost a year ago because the complaining got rather tiresome. His stuff still gets recommended to me every now and again and the F150 one sounded interesting and ultimately unintentionally hilarious.
Really great way to destroy the battery in your Truck because it has about 1200 cycles to 80% and you're just using those powering a house with battery technology that shouldn't be used to power houses. (you should be using LiFePO4 with 6000+ cycle life)
And it isn't even as if this is an economical battery that is cheap to replace. This is a $25,000 battery pack that you're degrading for 0 real world benefit.
And it isn't even if these trucks don't absolutely suck in the winter time with range, which you're stealing to put into your house.
"Cheap home power backup system!" Nope, not at all. "Short sighted home power backup system!" is more like it.
Over the lifetime of the truck doing this with any frequency at all, you'd be orders of magnitude cheaper to buy a cheap Growatt portable inverter. Or you know, a propane generator.
There is absolutely no intelligent case for V2G. Not one. In every case, there is no economic model where it doesn't cost you VASTLY more than it saves you.
If you use this for occasional emergency backup, those extra couple cycles on the battery are nothing. And the power in and out of the battery in the V2H or V2G scenarios is nothing compared to driving the vehicle and regen.
@@billjohnson3344 if you use heat pumps for heating and cooling + electric hot water it’s about the same per day as a full 10/90 charge.
And yes, if you did this 10 times a year for 50 cycles you’ll notice.
Especially since the range drop is already massively bad in the winter AND when you use this because the power goes out you now don’t have a charged vehicle in said emergency.
Meanwhile a growatt with the same output will cost you $1500.
@@jameshancock Show me that Growatt for $1500 that has a 130kWh battery and 9.6kW split phase output power and I'm sold. Clearly not apples to apples, not sure of your point there. The advantage of the truck is having a giant battery, versus home storage at much higher kWh / $ pricing. The emergency power use-case is quite compelling, and no impact to the battery life for the handful of times you'd use it.
@@billjohnson3344 5kw output, parallelizable if you want and up to 15kw per unit.
And it won’t wear your $25,000 battery that has 1300 cycles to 80%.
It’s on their website.
@@jameshancock Still not understanding how you propose a 5kW inverter with no batteries is somehow better than the truck backup solution with 9.6kW inverter and gigantic 130kWh battery. And who cares if that battery is rated for 1300 cycles (which I've never seen stated), if I were to use even 10 of those cycles for emergency backup over the life of the truck? Just not following what concern you have, or how your lesser solution is even close in function, total cost, or utility.