@@Eagle8 Yeah I am not in a hurry to move Smart. Not for a center who will be a role player on this team. A really big role admittedly, but I do truly think that role could go to a seasoned rookie. It honestly depends on what you would have to give up to get a veteran big.
@robertmichaeljones I'm just saying that we need two bigs. We can scrap and get to the playoffs with a small team . In my opinion, to advance would be impossible.
I just have a feeling it would be a grave mistake to let Smart go. I believe he's the key to establishing the defensive identity for our young core. He also has the most playoff experience on our roster by a long shot. I remember on many occasions Smart was the reason we won a few of those games last season because of his winning attitude and experience. We NEED that, Vince can take over as far as talent but those times we may struggle to close out games Smart will be a key to us getting over the hump.
Let’s give Marcus Smart a chance. He came in on a messed up season. He’s not a true point guard. He played one season. I don’t think we should trade him so fast. Now if the next season is not good then let’s talk about trading him.
That last segment is a great overview of what the Grizzlies should do about a big. I personally would not give up any assets to get Clingan. And honestly, I'm a bit fearful of that foot injury with him. I think Edey is the more sound choice, EVEN if you do have to use the no 9 pick to get him. I think it's even possible that his draft projections are a bit low with teams trying to disguise there interest. If you look at all the comments on what teams have seen with him, it's very very similar to what they see with Clingan. Why is he so far behind him in the projections? But I think even trading up a bit for Clingan (if you don't have to give up major assets) makes a lot more sense than giving up essential roster pieces to get a veteran big.
We Grizz fans have to keep in mind that we are in win now mode, so do we really want to roll the dice on getting a Derek Lively level player as a rookie, who by the way has two capable bigs to cover if he underperforms. I just don’t like those odds , so we need to invest in a proven big that can handle going deep into the playoffs
@@southt8907 I dont think this franchise can afford too much to be in win now mode. If we have a few awful seasons in a row, the team will wind up in Nashville.
@@southt8907 I do think we need to do what we can to win a championship, but not at the cost of sacrificing the future. But we are NOT New York or LA keep in mind.
I kinda feel Luke is more tradeable. He only seems to be open when 2+ of our big 3 (Ja/Des/Jaren) are on the floor. Role players need to be able to be effective with the reserves not just the stars. It's the same knock on Zaire. Smart was effective with starters and reserves. IMHO
I would keep Smart over Kennard, he is got playoff experience needed. I won't make Bane carry the weight of the PG position, he is a scorer and it is his strenght. I won't trade for Brook Lopez and less for Smart or Kennard. If they can get a center for Kennard, I would select Jared McCain as a back up PG and shooter. If they can't get any interesting trade then Sarr-Clingan-Ware at #9. And MLE for Drummond or Bitazde as a back up Center
Should not trade smart he is our most valuable player right now it’s possible he could make everyone better. He is here for the playoffs. We need at least a year of his knowledge. He is the vet we need. He will make JJJ, Bane, and Ja better. In that order.
He is NOT our most valuable player. Not close. Morant is, then either Bane of JJJ. We don't know what his fit is stil with this team after last year's debacle. I think he could be an integral piece but he is NOT the MVP of this team.
The focus should be on letting Kennard go and drafting Dalton Knecht! Knecht is a younger, more athletic, and healthier option than Kennard, offering elite shooting and better defense. Use Marcus Smart to guard players like Kyrie Irving and Vince Williams Jr. on Luka Dončić. By letting Kennard go and getting Knecht on a rookie contract, the Grizzlies can free up money to sign Nicolas Claxton or another big who can provide athleticism and defense. Additionally, the Grizzlies should consider finding a cheap veteran point guard with experience, such as Tyus Jones, Kris Dunn, or Delon Wright, as this could prove invaluable in the playoffs due to Rose's health concerns.
Considering the current state of the Grizzlies, it’s clear that Ja Morant and most of the roster are not consistent three-point shooters. With the evolution of the three-point threat in today's NBA, it’s crucial to have an elite scorer. Dalton Knecht can provide that and more. Knecht’s ability to score in various ways-off the dribble, in catch-and-shoot situations, and driving to the basket-makes him a dynamic offensive threat. Both teams in the Finals this year, the Celtics and the Mavericks, are there mainly due to the scoring prowess of Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, as well as Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. Finding players who are elite 3-and-D threats is incredibly difficult. The Grizzlies have been trying for years to acquire players like OG Anunoby or Mikal Bridges. The draft gives them the chance to get an elite 3-and-D threat in Knecht. The way the game is played today, the elite scorer is often the star who gets you to the Finals. While defense is crucial, a veteran big man could be more useful for the Grizzlies at this point. By drafting Knecht, the Grizzlies would not only add a much-needed elite scorer but also maintain the flexibility to acquire a veteran big man to bolster their defense. Donovan Clingan’s passing ability is indeed valuable, but in today’s NBA, having a consistent and elite scorer from beyond the arc is a higher priority for the Grizzlies. Knecht’s shooting would open up the floor for Ja Morant’s drives and Jaren Jackson Jr.’s inside game, making the overall offense more potent. Defense can be addressed by adding a veteran big man who brings both defensive skills and experience, ensuring a balanced and competitive roster. Additionally, given that the Grizzlies already have solid playmakers, it makes sense to prioritize adding an elite three-point scorer.This is why I alluded to adding a veteran point guard in case of health concerns. Having a veteran guard ensures the team has experienced leadership and stability, especially during crucial playoff moments, while Knecht’s scoring provides the offensive boost needed to compete at the highest level.
Bane as a secondary ball handler has gone a bit too far. His offensive game suffers a lot with it. His shooting %, 3 pt %, drive by lay up %.. have all suffered. He gets tired , and for only being a passable defender and not some an above average defender.. Bane as secondary ball handler should be used opportunistically and not as a norm. Smart is a good player coming off bench and manage the players on the floor at that time
If they Trade Smart the starter at the SF is GG or possibly traded player or if still on the roster Zaire. If they don't trade up and if available the pick should be Reed Shepard. I think he is a great fit in the second unit as the backup PG
Jaren at the 5 does NOT work. It takes away his ability to be a roamer and block shots. As talented as Jackson is, his best value is as a defender (remember him as DPOY)? So I don't want to hear any more about Jaren playing center, at least not as a starter or getting the majority of his minutes there. This Grizzlies team is built on being a defensive force first and foremost. They won 50 game two years in a row with a very young roster. It is NOT time to completely change that philosophy. The offense does need some improvement, but not to the extent that you take way the focus on defense first.
Hopefully the grizz realize that we dont have to have a big defensive rim protector to make it to the finals. What we DO need is a lockdown perimeter defender and/or floor spreader
GG may look totally different with Ja and bane back , he may get six assists we don’t know. Please don’t give away the pick we are accidentally forming a second young core and could be real good for a decade. And the more I look yves missi is a perfect grizzlies style player.
Exactly he's a grit guy, a vet, and an established winner. Remember that play against the clippers where he made that wild pass or I can't remember the exact games but a few time he chewed the team out for effort. I believe we need him atleast until the trade deadline.
Yeah, I don’t know about that Mate, however, it wasn’t a smart trade IMO. I have a feeling Steve wasn’t happy with the medical analysis and took it on himself to fix a problem and it wasn’t Memphis
Trade Smart for a center while he has value … draft Sheppard if available.. now you got defense rebounding & shooting while filling 2 positions you need at backup pg & c … you still got time to consolidate Luke, Ziare, Konchar for 1 good player
Your argument is more a reflection of the coaches system than Smart. Remember the offense was designed to go through Adams and Ja. You wanted Smart to be Ja with no Adams.
If Charlotte drafts Clingan, trade Konchar or Z for Nic Richards. Trade the 9th pick down to get Edey and an asset. Sign Andre Drummond as a free agent. Three centers with different abilities for less than $18M. Negotiate a deal with Kennard at something like $50 over 5YRS. Regarding Smart and his health history, he was given the past season to get fully healthy for probably the first time in his professional career. Trade him at the end of next season with one year left on his contract.
You need to be in the front office for real. I’ve been saying sign Drummond all off season. He don’t wanna start doesn’t demand the ball and is a consistent rebounder
smart is just the odd man out like you said it felt better when we knew ja wasn't going to play the first 25 games and to be fair he hasn't really had a fair shot, but i think we can use that contract to strengthen other areas of need on the team. the ideal situation in my eyes is to draft a guy like knecht at 9 (luke kennard replacement for cheap with potential) & use smart and luke and the others in a deal for a starting caliber center imo it has to be jarrett allen every other center i can think of just doesnt make sense unless KAT somehow becomes available. the other scenario would be trading up to somehow draft clingan(cheap center for years) and using smart/kennard/others to trade for a starting caliber SF. it has always been a weakness of the grizzlies for a decade and quite frankly, im sick of it. lmao im a believer in vince and gg but honestly dont think either are ready to be starters on a contending team. both should come off the bench until they give you no option but to start them.
I like Marcus Smart’s personality wise, but we don’t need him position wise. He’s a starting point guard and just doesn’t make sense to start Morant, Bane, and Smart. Smart has the best/most realistic trade value
I agree that Smart is our most tradable asset, but I fear that we would regret not having that kind of vet in the post season
Agreed! The trade deadline is there if you want to move on a vet. Look at Dallas. Kyrie has deep playoff experience, but the others not so much.
I agree as well
Rose may help but they need a vet that won a chip.
@@Eagle8 Yeah I am not in a hurry to move Smart. Not for a center who will be a role player on this team. A really big role admittedly, but I do truly think that role could go to a seasoned rookie. It honestly depends on what you would have to give up to get a veteran big.
@robertmichaeljones I'm just saying that we need two bigs. We can scrap and get to the playoffs with a small team . In my opinion, to advance would be impossible.
I just have a feeling it would be a grave mistake to let Smart go. I believe he's the key to establishing the defensive identity for our young core. He also has the most playoff experience on our roster by a long shot.
I remember on many occasions Smart was the reason we won a few of those games last season because of his winning attitude and experience. We NEED that, Vince can take over as far as talent but those times we may struggle to close out games Smart will be a key to us getting over the hump.
Let’s give Marcus Smart a chance. He came in on a messed up season. He’s not a true point guard. He played one season. I don’t think we should trade him so fast. Now if the next season is not good then let’s talk about trading him.
That last segment is a great overview of what the Grizzlies should do about a big. I personally would not give up any assets to get Clingan. And honestly, I'm a bit fearful of that foot injury with him. I think Edey is the more sound choice, EVEN if you do have to use the no 9 pick to get him. I think it's even possible that his draft projections are a bit low with teams trying to disguise there interest. If you look at all the comments on what teams have seen with him, it's very very similar to what they see with Clingan. Why is he so far behind him in the projections? But I think even trading up a bit for Clingan (if you don't have to give up major assets) makes a lot more sense than giving up essential roster pieces to get a veteran big.
We Grizz fans have to keep in mind that we are in win now mode, so do we really want to roll the dice on getting a Derek Lively level player as a rookie, who by the way has two capable bigs to cover if he underperforms. I just don’t like those odds , so we need to invest in a proven big that can handle going deep into the playoffs
@@southt8907 I dont think this franchise can afford too much to be in win now mode. If we have a few awful seasons in a row, the team will wind up in Nashville.
@@southt8907 I do think we need to do what we can to win a championship, but not at the cost of sacrificing the future. But we are NOT New York or LA keep in mind.
@@southt8907 keep in mind the NBA is waiting for any chance to get this team out of here. You have players saying it now.
I kinda feel Luke is more tradeable. He only seems to be open when 2+ of our big 3 (Ja/Des/Jaren) are on the floor. Role players need to be able to be effective with the reserves not just the stars. It's the same knock on Zaire. Smart was effective with starters and reserves. IMHO
I LOVE Kennard's shooting ability but I have never loved his ability to get open or defend. He is a very perplexing player.
I would keep Smart over Kennard, he is got playoff experience needed.
I won't make Bane carry the weight of the PG position, he is a scorer and it is his strenght.
I won't trade for Brook Lopez and less for Smart or Kennard.
If they can get a center for Kennard, I would select Jared McCain as a back up PG and shooter.
If they can't get any interesting trade then Sarr-Clingan-Ware at #9. And MLE for Drummond or Bitazde as a back up Center
I have often wondered about Kennard's fit on this team. Love 3 ability but he doesn't fit otherwise.
Should not trade smart he is our most valuable player right now it’s possible he could make everyone better. He is here for the playoffs. We need at least a year of his knowledge. He is the vet we need. He will make JJJ, Bane, and Ja better. In that order.
He is NOT our most valuable player. Not close. Morant is, then either Bane of JJJ. We don't know what his fit is stil with this team after last year's debacle. I think he could be an integral piece but he is NOT the MVP of this team.
The focus should be on letting Kennard go and drafting Dalton Knecht! Knecht is a younger, more athletic, and healthier option than Kennard, offering elite shooting and better defense. Use Marcus Smart to guard players like Kyrie Irving and Vince Williams Jr. on Luka Dončić. By letting Kennard go and getting Knecht on a rookie contract, the Grizzlies can free up money to sign Nicolas Claxton or another big who can provide athleticism and defense. Additionally, the Grizzlies should consider finding a cheap veteran point guard with experience, such as Tyus Jones, Kris Dunn, or Delon Wright, as this could prove invaluable in the playoffs due to Rose's health concerns.
I like this
Hard pass on Knecht. Not if the Grizzlies can get a big in the draft like Clingan or Edey. They DO need shooting, but they need a center more.
Considering the current state of the Grizzlies, it’s clear that Ja Morant and most of the roster are not consistent three-point shooters. With the evolution of the three-point threat in today's NBA, it’s crucial to have an elite scorer. Dalton Knecht can provide that and more. Knecht’s ability to score in various ways-off the dribble, in catch-and-shoot situations, and driving to the basket-makes him a dynamic offensive threat. Both teams in the Finals this year, the Celtics and the Mavericks, are there mainly due to the scoring prowess of Luka Dončić and Kyrie Irving, as well as Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. Finding players who are elite 3-and-D threats is incredibly difficult. The Grizzlies have been trying for years to acquire players like OG Anunoby or Mikal Bridges. The draft gives them the chance to get an elite 3-and-D threat in Knecht.
The way the game is played today, the elite scorer is often the star who gets you to the Finals. While defense is crucial, a veteran big man could be more useful for the Grizzlies at this point. By drafting Knecht, the Grizzlies would not only add a much-needed elite scorer but also maintain the flexibility to acquire a veteran big man to bolster their defense.
Donovan Clingan’s passing ability is indeed valuable, but in today’s NBA, having a consistent and elite scorer from beyond the arc is a higher priority for the Grizzlies. Knecht’s shooting would open up the floor for Ja Morant’s drives and Jaren Jackson Jr.’s inside game, making the overall offense more potent. Defense can be addressed by adding a veteran big man who brings both defensive skills and experience, ensuring a balanced and competitive roster.
Additionally, given that the Grizzlies already have solid playmakers, it makes sense to prioritize adding an elite three-point scorer.This is why I alluded to adding a veteran point guard in case of health concerns. Having a veteran guard ensures the team has experienced leadership and stability, especially during crucial playoff moments, while Knecht’s scoring provides the offensive boost needed to compete at the highest level.
Bane as a secondary ball handler has gone a bit too far. His offensive game suffers a lot with it. His shooting %, 3 pt %, drive by lay up %.. have all suffered. He gets tired , and for only being a passable defender and not some an above average defender.. Bane as secondary ball handler should be used opportunistically and not as a norm.
Smart is a good player coming off bench and manage the players on the floor at that time
Totally agree. You could see him get gassed and get sloppy.
Interesting take. Where does he rank in those stats currently prior to his rookie season? Would like to know what you mean my "suffered?"
If they Trade Smart the starter at the SF is GG or possibly traded player or if still on the roster Zaire. If they don't trade up and if available the pick should be Reed Shepard. I think he is a great fit in the second unit as the backup PG
Jaren at the 5 does NOT work. It takes away his ability to be a roamer and block shots. As talented as Jackson is, his best value is as a defender (remember him as DPOY)? So I don't want to hear any more about Jaren playing center, at least not as a starter or getting the majority of his minutes there. This Grizzlies team is built on being a defensive force first and foremost. They won 50 game two years in a row with a very young roster. It is NOT time to completely change that philosophy. The offense does need some improvement, but not to the extent that you take way the focus on defense first.
Would Memphis take Wendell Carter Jr. and Cole Anthony (+ maybe a pick) for Marcus Smart?
Hopefully the grizz realize that we dont have to have a big defensive rim protector to make it to the finals. What we DO need is a lockdown perimeter defender and/or floor spreader
You mean they don't need Jaren to be a rim protector anymore? He was one of the best the past 2 seasons before this one.
When I say need, I meant, need bad enough that they 100% have to draft one at 9. We do need a traditional center but for spot duty type ish
GG may look totally different with Ja and bane back , he may get six assists we don’t know. Please don’t give away the pick we are accidentally forming a second young core and could be real good for a decade. And the more I look yves missi is a perfect grizzlies style player.
6 assists fot the season? He had 59 last year. I don't think he'll regress THAT much.
We need his experience.
We've found a grit guy in V Williams. Smart's salary can be used to strengthen other areas.
He not just a grit guy he’s a vet.
Exactly he's a grit guy, a vet, and an established winner. Remember that play against the clippers where he made that wild pass or I can't remember the exact games but a few time he chewed the team out for effort. I believe we need him atleast until the trade deadline.
Adams got traded because he rubbed ownership the wrong way with how he approached his rehab… not because of his play style
Yeah, I don’t know about that Mate, however, it wasn’t a smart trade IMO. I have a feeling Steve wasn’t happy with the medical analysis and took it on himself to fix a problem and it wasn’t Memphis
He got traded because of his contract. That is ALL.
@@rikondae-bikes8021 you started off by saying you don’t know.. I do know 😃
@@robertmichaeljones not true. 12 million for a starting center isn’t a lot…
Trade Smart for a center while he has value … draft Sheppard if available.. now you got defense rebounding & shooting while filling 2 positions you need at backup pg & c … you still got time to consolidate Luke, Ziare, Konchar for 1 good player
Pass on Sheppard. Don't need to trade Smart for a center. Centers have low trade value. Less than a former defensive player of the year guard/wing.
@@robertmichaeljones oh ok
Can the Grizzlies buy out Kennedy Chandler this season?
Your argument is more a reflection of the coaches system than Smart. Remember the offense was designed to go through Adams and Ja. You wanted Smart to be Ja with no Adams.
If Charlotte drafts Clingan, trade Konchar or Z for Nic Richards. Trade the 9th pick down to get Edey and an asset. Sign Andre Drummond as a free agent. Three centers with different abilities for less than $18M. Negotiate a deal with Kennard at something like $50 over 5YRS.
Regarding Smart and his health history, he was given the past season to get fully healthy for probably the first time in his professional career. Trade him at the end of next season with one year left on his contract.
You need to be in the front office for real. I’ve been saying sign Drummond all off season. He don’t wanna start doesn’t demand the ball and is a consistent rebounder
Need smart to beat Mavs wolves and Denver. We need defense. our biggest issue is Jaron
smart is just the odd man out like you said it felt better when we knew ja wasn't going to play the first 25 games and to be fair he hasn't really had a fair shot, but i think we can use that contract to strengthen other areas of need on the team. the ideal situation in my eyes is to draft a guy like knecht at 9 (luke kennard replacement for cheap with potential) & use smart and luke and the others in a deal for a starting caliber center imo it has to be jarrett allen every other center i can think of just doesnt make sense unless KAT somehow becomes available. the other scenario would be trading up to somehow draft clingan(cheap center for years) and using smart/kennard/others to trade for a starting caliber SF. it has always been a weakness of the grizzlies for a decade and quite frankly, im sick of it. lmao im a believer in vince and gg but honestly dont think either are ready to be starters on a contending team. both should come off the bench until they give you no option but to start them.
Draft center Kel'el Ware at #9. I think Donovan Clingan will be gone by #9.
How do you get to zero centers on the roster?
I like Marcus Smart’s personality wise, but we don’t need him position wise. He’s a starting point guard and just doesn’t make sense to start Morant, Bane, and Smart. Smart has the best/most realistic trade value