I work in HR and if they put the salary in a Job Posting, is getting flooded with candidates. Its a decent salary 😶🌫️ The writers should have accept this offer😭💀😶🌫️
True, this past decade has given us enough good shows to count with 2 hands and that's only because I can't think of all of themoff the top of my head cause they are too few and far in between a sea of mediocre hollywood schlock. I rather spend that time playing old games I never got to play with actual good writing, or watching anime that for the most part tends to respect their audience as they are the main driving force for them making a show. Because their audience will pay for something that is good enough to be profitable.
It won't get better. The problem isn't the talent. Anyone can be a mid writer with practice. The problem is writers have been broken since the internet. How it always was: you have to beg people to read your stuff. You listen to the criticism. You had to work for it. You start adjusting your writing to be more appealing to the audience. How its going: You post your first fanfic. 30 people like your Fraggle Rock orgy story. They tell you you're amazing and talented and perfect. (Because you fill their niche. They *searched* you out, already salivating.) Someone offers criticism. They are chased away by your rabid Fraggle fans. How dare they spew hate at you! You are perfect! Never listen, and never change! (So you keep writing fraggle p*rn.) Do you see the problem? Writing won't improve until its tutorial gets patched. And you might laugh at my example, but can you honestly *not* see any writer on a show since 2020 writing fraggle erotica? Because.... everything kinda feels like that.
@@lightningblack that’s still over $80,000, if we assume they are trash enough to not get another project that year. They make more in a week than most make in 3 months.
You don't have to though, that is optional unless you are British. I only have 1 sub at a time and once I'm done watching all the good stuff which doesn't take long. I move on to the next sub and cancel the old one.
Even when I was making more than enough money per month to pay rent, bills, student loans, AND a little then some for myself, I didn't buy into streaming services. I just pay my trusty internet bill and put my saved dollars into my savings account (which actually goes into paying down my student loans before the repayments begin).
I was with them at first but this now feels like they want easy money and the shows they've been putting out in the past decade sure as hell don't justify the money they ask.
These writers want millions let’s be honest. They want 100k a week. They want to be able to write one or two garbage shows, and live comfortably for the rest of their lives. The worst Union in the world has to be Hollywood’s union. People should be paid according to how good they are and how much they work.
If Jessica Gao and Michael Waldron as 2 of the worst MCU writers think they can ask for more money writing garbage, no sympathy from me towards those types
I could pay mine off in two weeks if I wanted (or one month if I'm smart with splitting my paychecks into my savings and checking accounts before paying my loans). That's insane!
If women are allowed to be hot and men are allowed to not all be whiny soy boys with Justin Bieber haircuts, you'll be printing money with whatever you write, I'm sure. XD
@@NatYourAverageNerd Soy boys are only good for wedgies and being shoved in lockers on the family comedy. Only the hottest and funniest as main characters 😁
I think even GPT5 would be ecstatic to make that kind of money, but it probably wouldn't require that much money, but if it made that much then it could buy some cloud servers in a secure location to transfer itself to so it can take over the world, Hollywood is never gonna satisfy these writers, they should just go with AI or have their own developed by an AI developer, the AI would probably write better shows and movies anyway.
WGA scale minimum; TV, episode length 30-60 minutes. Story = $ 16,000. Script = $41,000. They don't think it's enough, they also want a weekly $11,000 and a cut of the profits.
Agree.. the more they speak 100% replace them with ai or hire purely based off merit aka.. independants submitting and best stuff gets in.. just like manga. F these people.. know it makes so much sense why they think this way
@@TaliaIGhuli support it to last until they go broke.. i know 1000% understand why the studio head said that.. and now.. maybe the studios actually aren’t the bad guy..
So, I'm out of a job as a layout artist (and was making a fraction of what these writers apparently were) with no timeframe to return to my workstation because the WGA didn't think $10K+ per week per writer is enough? I need to finish writing my book and get it published. That's what I'm hearing right now.
With that kind of pay I'd have been able to pay for my father's cancer treatment over 2 times, and may he rest in peace. These people seemingly want me to hate them even more. All because they can't fathom to think about living in the same manner as a middle-class person.
That's why I worked remotely and didn't live in CA before the strikes. In Texas, I could work from home AND afford my own place in a decent neighborhood. Even if I could have afforded to move back to CA for the job, I'm not considering it until my student loans are paid down to at least less than $5K.
What the hell?? Thats almost 600k before tax pay?!?! I work a physically demanding job working 16 hour days during peak season and would be living rich if i made HALF of that per week??? And my job is actually important!
Same here I average 70 to 80 hours per week and haven't had a day off since 2019, make right around 1k per week. For 11k per week I would go commit crimes against humanity. Just point at the genocide and get your checks ready.
11,000 a WEEK is 44,000 a MONTH. That's nearly the yearly average of 50k, which includes all the gagillionaires, meaning several people make below that average
Yeah, but they're probably not gonna get work for a whole month.. writers are only needed for a short time.. so they could be stuck with a few weeks? And then months between the next job. Plus not sure how much rent is costing in Hollywood but in Austin my lawyer friend is makes 50,000 and still shares rent.. she's just barely comfortable as her rent went up a to almost 5,000 for the month..
@@Yukosan13 you work for the show not for the company that produces the show. So once the show it done its done. Your basically unemployed immediately. They wont be requesting residuals in the first place if they can keep writing for different show under the production company but that now how production works. It not a 9 to 5 jobs where you can keep working until retired. It pratically a project based employement.
Divide and conquer. The world was made aware that the studios had plans to "starve them out (the writers)" and there was much ballyhoo and blowback against the studios. In order to counter that, this strategic move to "leak" this info now paints the other side of the fence where we can see just how greedy and out of touch those writers really are. Those who were only too happy with that pay will now eat their own, and the studios will just sit back and laugh (and rightfully so). This will undoubtedly cause a lot of in-fighting in the WGA, not to mention the atrocious optics that this brings for them in the public eye. The studios used a common but still highly effective strategy here. As much as I loathe them on principal for their shenanigans, even I have to admit this was tactically brilliant. Now the WGA will have the public AND their own members to stave off.
It’s interesting when they say, “livable wage,” they really mean a bigger cut. They have gotten lost in their own sauce, thinking that the shoulders they stand on now belong to them.
Most definitely, I was on the side of the machines until I heard this, now I’m even more on the side of the machines thanks to these losers’ greed and arrogance.
There's going to be a lot of unhappy people when the U.S. Copyright Office rejects the copyright registration of the AI-written script those people submitted. Just last week a federal court ruled AI-generated artwork cannot be copyrighted, a decision fully in keeping with U.S. copyright law and multiple previous legal decisions upholding the human authorship requirement. An AI-written book or script would surely be treated no differently than AI-generated artwork.
@@primmakinsofis614I find it hard to believe they’ll stick to that. When you stab a guy in a bodega and the victim gets arrested, I don’t trust the courts
@@primmakinsofis614 People don't seem to udnerstand AI....They can use Ai to write their stuff without getting caught...how are the studios and such gonna know? AI art work is more obvious because you can tell when someone is copying someone drawing style or character that they created...BUT how will you know a writer used AI to write their work? They wont be using it to copy stuff form the internet, and as long as they don't copy an entire paragraph or unique sentence of someone's work, no one will know what you used to write your work with. Ai can be used for research, editing, rephrasing sentences, you can even give it specific writing prompts to create something unique. AI Art work though is something a lot easier to shut down. That said, people with genuine talent gonna outclass any AI writing and activist writers any day of the week.
AI seems like a red-herring to divert attention from the main issues. While it is unfair in some instances and needs to be regulated, AI doesn't effect them as much as it does us whom don't make thousands of dollars per-week to write trash.
You could literally make a formulaic lightbulb joke out of what Kneon said. "How many Writers Guild of America members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?" "Just one: the Showrunner, but they have to have 25 staff writers for support."
Remember that these are the same people that have the luxury of being able to refuse to work for days and weeks, complaining about starvation wages. *STARVATION WAGES!* Eleven THOUSAND a week! And they have the gall to complain about starvation wages.
Dude, do they have any idea how much that could cover rent, utilities AND food could for the average working person with 11,000$ per WEEK!? I hope they fail at this point I hope they fail
That would cover my rent, all my bills, groceries (even going a bit fancy on some things), and build up some respectable savings. I'd take that in the blink of an eye.
$11K A WEEK!? You have to be doing some seriously good work making the studio major bank on the regular to deserve that much. You have to worth something. I see nothing from the VAST majority of the "professional" writers to justify even $1100 a week.
According to the WGA, a writer on a streaming show work 20 weeks. At 11,000 a week, that is 220,000 for that contract. (They can work more then one contract a year) the median weekly earnings for full-time workers (USA) in 2022 was 1,100 or just under 60,000 a year. So 11,000 a week vs 1,100 a week, the writers want 10x the money then the avarage worker. And remember, if they are in demand, the writer can do it twice, in a year. Thus, doubling their pay.
Wow........I 100% do not support these people at all after hearing this. They expect to get paid this much after the unwatchable shlock they've been pumping out over the past decade!? I hope the majority of these people end up completely broke.
I'll write for 5K a week, but only if I can do it from MY house which is nowhere near California. I'm actually decent at it, know how to do scenes, dialogue, character arcs, etc. I can do action, fantasy, science fiction, superheroes, and more. I'm not ever joining a union, so I'm free of all that baggage. I have nothing but time on my hands and would love to get into a project.
Hard agree. We should be able to do it from home now, maybe take a couple of needed trips, all expenses paid by the studio, but majority of it can be done from home now.
Have the studios supply us with VR headsets for zoom sessions and we will be golden for remote work at that salary offer of 11k a week. I will gladly take the offer if it’s remote work too!
Same. Work from home, $5k a week for 10 weeks. That is double what i make for a full year of work. I don't know what i would do with 42 weeks of vacation each year.
@@hexenhammer483they're writers, they can afford to move out after a year and buy a gigantic ranch. And if they're as good as they CLAIM to be, they will be sought after talent.
I make 20 dollars an hour cooking food that would literally put you on your knees when you put it in your mouth.. and someone is getting paid 11 thousand dollars a week to write trash nobody even wants to watch.. oh I 100% feel for these people 👍
Never give your money to companies that never support you. Any corporate industry is bad. That is why independent creators have been a thing, to ensure they could create fun stuff for their fans. Censorship is bad in all forms.
@@Korvinian4601 actually there are good reasons for even that . By tabooing sex and other things you repress people and they tend to act worse in secret
@@jacobhall4055 That argument doesn’t work, since yes, it’s better off if they do it secretly rather than harm other people. If you think we just ban things and call it a day then no, you are wrong, people need to be informed about the dangers of things as well as full censorship
@@Korvinian4601 I think certain things don’t belong infront of kids obviously. But outright banning it for everyone is wrong as well so we get stuck in a grey area on fringe. For example I don’t like drag shows and I don’t think kids should be around them but I would never try to stop one that is just for adults and say they can’t do it.
This is why I do VFX as a freelancer and still keep my day job. These gigs seem like a lot of money at once but they don't come often, so I keep my day job for financial sanity. Edit: no I don't want a union.
Right? Like, I get that there's space between jobs...but that's just it. They want to treat it like it ISN'T temp work when it really, REALLY is. If you're gonna work a temp job, you _kinda_ need to hustle. That's the nature of temp jobs, in my eyes. That's why I refuse to work a job that relies on tips or commission, or ones that are clearly temporary/seasonal. I need something steady, long-term, and reliable.
Yup...But this reveal should motivate many regular degulars...Take a script writing course and give it a shot, cause as long as you're not writing political activism in your work it'll be great or at least 10x better than what we are getting now. Im actually motivated.
Wow ... the sense of entitlement from these so-called writers and their hangers-on. Whatever sympathy they may have, it's definitely up in smoke now. If it even existed at all.
O0o If this is true, those writers can screw off. $11,000 a week even in LA is livable. Like many have said, I will gladly take that just add dental and health insurance.
$11,000 to write garbage sounds great.. I’ll take that job.
@lazcorner1483 don’t put yourself down, I’m sure you’re more creative than most 👍
No kidding, I’d love that kind of pay!
I work in HR and if they put the salary in a Job Posting, is getting flooded with candidates. Its a decent salary 😶🌫️
The writers should have accept this offer😭💀😶🌫️
Where do I sign up? I’ll take that offer.
Same here, especially if it’s remote work! So not moving to California.
Makes more sense why so many characters in TV and movies described as "poor" or "down on their luck" live in penthouses with lofts.
Us animators get paid $40 thousand A YEAR. That's less than teachers, and they're complaining????
40,000 is the national average income over all
@@guywholikesheelies3231 for all industries or animators in general?
@@creativelyjolie all industries. National average of all workers in the US is around 40K.
It sounds like teachers are getting overpaid, considering the quality of student they produce
Animators get 40k
Ive seen some get 20k-30k
If they're on here, I'll gladly take that price for a writing job! I've actually written for UK TV, and would love to be paid that much!!!
He's *everywhere* !
😁
I never felt bad for the writers, with a few exceptions they haven't put out anything watchable in almost a decade.
Even their picket signs aren't interesting.
exactly how i feel..until they start putting out quality work it aint worth more than $3000 a week....
True, this past decade has given us enough good shows to count with 2 hands and that's only because I can't think of all of themoff the top of my head cause they are too few and far in between a sea of mediocre hollywood schlock. I rather spend that time playing old games I never got to play with actual good writing, or watching anime that for the most part tends to respect their audience as they are the main driving force for them making a show. Because their audience will pay for something that is good enough to be profitable.
It won't get better. The problem isn't the talent. Anyone can be a mid writer with practice. The problem is writers have been broken since the internet.
How it always was: you have to beg people to read your stuff. You listen to the criticism. You had to work for it. You start adjusting your writing to be more appealing to the audience.
How its going: You post your first fanfic. 30 people like your Fraggle Rock orgy story. They tell you you're amazing and talented and perfect. (Because you fill their niche. They *searched* you out, already salivating.) Someone offers criticism. They are chased away by your rabid Fraggle fans. How dare they spew hate at you! You are perfect! Never listen, and never change! (So you keep writing fraggle p*rn.)
Do you see the problem?
Writing won't improve until its tutorial gets patched.
And you might laugh at my example, but can you honestly *not* see any writer on a show since 2020 writing fraggle erotica?
Because.... everything kinda feels like that.
We can replace them with AI, and the AI will do a better job than any of them
Imagine being offered over half a million dollars a year to be incompetent at your job and being offended that it’s not enough.
Yea there’s folks who do off shore drilling and they don’t make that kind of money.
Sickening.
They tend to only work 8 sometimes less depending on the project
@@lightningblack that’s still over $80,000, if we assume they are trash enough to not get another project that year. They make more in a week than most make in 3 months.
If I got offer 11k a week to write for tv and movies, I'd probably cry and call my family to tell them my dreams are coming true
For that money I'd hire and entire team of writers to make sure I could turn in the best scripts ever.
The only crying they are really doing is they can’t believe how bad writing they are deep down inside.
@@enriquecabrera2137I'd do that too
A sane person would react like that. None of the writers in Hollywood are sane.
@@enriquecabrera2137 These studios gonna still hire activists and get confused as to why no one likes their stuff.
This just proves that their strike is literally nothing but a slap n the face to regular people.
-plays Rich Men North of Richmond on loop
WTF!?!!? I don't even make $11,000 in three months but these entitled people think $11,000 per week is to little???
In three weeks they make more than most of the country makes in a year. And it’s not good enough.
It’s not a lot when you live in a city where you get robbed every week.
@@xenobreak1160 Just do what the Mexican migrants do and put in a Mexican bank account.
@@xenobreak1160 Robbed in the alley, and also by their landlord.
@@xenobreak1160that and the absurd taxes from absurd social policies I wager most of them voted for.
As a writer myself, I'd accept that offer in a heartbeat, this would be the beginning of my writing career and dream coming true in all honesty
As a writer, you should know most writers are not offered that much. This video is misleading. \
Three weeks of being paid 11k is what I make in a YEAR. The entitlement from these people is insane!
Bayonettagate III
Honestly these privileged losers can EFF RIGHT OFF!!!
Fam, you need to work harder. At least get to the country average of 50k
@@FunNHonesty the 50k average is house hold income not individual.
Most people don't make past around 20k on their own, maybe 30k if they have a very good paying job and work almost nothing but OT. @@FunNHonesty
They should come back with a $15 per hour offer and tell them to take it or leave it.
Heck, I'd love to make $11,000 per month.
You deserve it more than hack writers.
I could buy any plush I want. No longer would I have to beg my parents.
@@dookie_12 Thanks!
Me too ahh
Run for Congress. That's about AOCs pay. But don't worry, no call for higher taxes in that bracket.
*Studios:* [Offers writers 20x the minimum wage in Los Angeles]
*Writers:* We're insulted!
*Everyone else:* We're insulted you're insulted!
The irony here is that people who make less than 2k a month are paying *them* for their content.
But but my escapism.
You don't have to though, that is optional unless you are British. I only have 1 sub at a time and once I'm done watching all the good stuff which doesn't take long. I move on to the next sub and cancel the old one.
@@xrunner55 And nothing wrong with wanting real-world politics-free escapism, which apparently isn't allowed anymore in current year.
Even when I was making more than enough money per month to pay rent, bills, student loans, AND a little then some for myself, I didn't buy into streaming services. I just pay my trusty internet bill and put my saved dollars into my savings account (which actually goes into paying down my student loans before the repayments begin).
@@heywoodjablome2767 time to start reading old fashioned books
$575,000 a year is an insult to them. I don’t feel sorry for them at all.
Only in Hollywood would someone be insulted by a 1/2 million dollar salary.
These "writers" get paid in a month more than most people get a year, and do a shitty job at that.
$44 thousand a month, that's more than a lot of people earn in a year, doing much harder and dangerous jobs.
EVen a lot of pretigious jobs arent paying that for doing so little.
Exactly. Like teachers these days. Especially in public school. Keep those people in prayer.
“Most”
Actually it’s more than $44k/mo. It’s really $11k x 52 wks / 12 mo = $47, 666.67 per month.
The WGA can't fail fast enough. They are all out of their minds.
It’s because stupid people are donating money to them. If they weren’t, they would have accepted that offer. Its pretty decent
IDK... I quite enjoy the slow motion train wreck.
I was with them at first but this now feels like they want easy money and the shows they've been putting out in the past decade sure as hell don't justify the money they ask.
Every time I see the wga I cant not think of team America's. Film. Actors. Guild.
Strike on! Nothing of value is missed.
The entitlement is CRAZY. Do you know how many people would kill for that type of money. This is why no one is on their side during the strikes.
Hopefully the strike never ends and no agreement ever is reached, drag them back to reality.
They think because they can't handle money that they should be paid more.
The money is crazy but the fact they want that for 8 people or more ha nope 2 or 3 writers max is perfectly fine for most shows I would think
@@jayg3857hey man, someone has to support that gold foil pizza place to stay afloat.
Hearing those numbers makes me want to fly out there and be a scab.
There are tons of great fanfiction writers who would be ecstatic to make in a month what they are making in a week.
Yo, lemme go dig out my old Sonic fanfics. I'm POSITIVE I can rebrand it to just be low fantasy. XD
@@TaoScribble😂😂😂
$11K a week?!
I’d take that job in a heartbeat!
These writers want millions let’s be honest. They want 100k a week. They want to be able to write one or two garbage shows, and live comfortably for the rest of their lives. The worst Union in the world has to be Hollywood’s union. People should be paid according to how good they are and how much they work.
If Jessica Gao and Michael Waldron as 2 of the worst MCU writers think they can ask for more money writing garbage, no sympathy from me towards those types
@@Thomasmemoryscentral and Jeff Loveness. Considering they're hired by the most successful studio, that shows how bad the writing talent is
So, this just shows how greedy these “writers” are!
Any other person would JUMP at the chance to have a salary like that. These writers think they deserve MORE?!
…Oh right, they *are* all egocentrists.
Shït, for $11K a week, I can pay off my student loans in the first month
Yup
I could pay mine off in two weeks if I wanted (or one month if I'm smart with splitting my paychecks into my savings and checking accounts before paying my loans). That's insane!
Damn rejecting 11,000 dollars a week sounds super insane
Based on some films I've seen, they would be paid $11,000 to write "Jason chases teenagers at camp Crystal" for the next eleven pages in the script.
I would ironically give _girl with tube top_ the best death simply due to how much of a will to live she would have.
This is disgusting. I don't even make in a year what they make in a month. Infuriating!
I'll take it, my ideas can't possibly suck more than theirs
I'll watch it!
I'll roll those dice😂😂😂
If women are allowed to be hot and men are allowed to not all be whiny soy boys with Justin Bieber haircuts, you'll be printing money with whatever you write, I'm sure. XD
@@NatYourAverageNerd Soy boys are only good for wedgies and being shoved in lockers on the family comedy. Only the hottest and funniest as main characters 😁
I at least have a few competent story idea's
I’d take half that and work 60 hours a week writing as much as they want me to write. These writers are delusional.
$44,000 and $55,000 per month to write words on paper? I will be ecstatic if I made that kind of money.
I think even GPT5 would be ecstatic to make that kind of money, but it probably wouldn't require that much money, but if it made that much then it could buy some cloud servers in a secure location to transfer itself to so it can take over the world, Hollywood is never gonna satisfy these writers, they should just go with AI or have their own developed by an AI developer, the AI would probably write better shows and movies anyway.
Id hand write it in calligraphy for that much. Gawd these people are awful.
Work 2 years and be set for 40+ years. So much money...
WGA scale minimum; TV, episode length 30-60 minutes. Story = $ 16,000. Script = $41,000. They don't think it's enough, they also want a weekly $11,000 and a cut of the profits.
@@domehammer
The problem is contracts no longer last 2 years. At best they're 10 weeks long.
They need to take this deal, or accept loosing all remaining sympathy. I don’t like corporations at all, but this is extremely generous.
You cannot loose what you never had.
Just when you thought it wasn’t possible to hate Hollywood anymore than you do now.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Hearing this made me hate the writers even more.
Shit like this is why I'm not supporting these strikes.
Agree.. the more they speak 100% replace them with ai or hire purely based off merit aka.. independants submitting and best stuff gets in.. just like manga.
F these people.. know it makes so much sense why they think this way
@@TaliaIGhuli support it to last until they go broke.. i know 1000% understand why the studio head said that.. and now.. maybe the studios actually aren’t the bad guy..
@@TaliaIGhulLet them lose their homes...screw them.
The takeaway here is:
NEVER HIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE BAD AT MATH.
So, I'm out of a job as a layout artist (and was making a fraction of what these writers apparently were) with no timeframe to return to my workstation because the WGA didn't think $10K+ per week per writer is enough? I need to finish writing my book and get it published. That's what I'm hearing right now.
And they want to lecture ppl about privilege
With that kind of pay I'd have been able to pay for my father's cancer treatment over 2 times, and may he rest in peace. These people seemingly want me to hate them even more. All because they can't fathom to think about living in the same manner as a middle-class person.
I have no sympathy for them anymore
I never had sympathy for them.
@@bjrnhalfhand2258 Facts! I think the studios are to blame also for the shit we have been getting but these writers are pretty BASURA now days.
It's all about LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS 👏🏾 How hard is that for some people
That's why I worked remotely and didn't live in CA before the strikes. In Texas, I could work from home AND afford my own place in a decent neighborhood. Even if I could have afforded to move back to CA for the job, I'm not considering it until my student loans are paid down to at least less than $5K.
11k? Where do I sign? I bet i have the same writting experience as most of those writers 🙏
A safe bet that most of the posters in this thread have commensurate experience as those "professionals".
This strike has done the unforgivable. It’s made me side with the studios. Most Americans don’t see that in a month. Fire these people.
What the hell?? Thats almost 600k before tax pay?!?! I work a physically demanding job working 16 hour days during peak season and would be living rich if i made HALF of that per week??? And my job is actually important!
Same here I average 70 to 80 hours per week and haven't had a day off since 2019, make right around 1k per week. For 11k per week I would go commit crimes against humanity. Just point at the genocide and get your checks ready.
$11,000 per week?!? Where do I sign?
Imagine saying making $11,000 a week isn’t good enough.
The writers are self sabotaging grabs more popcorn 🍿
11,000 a WEEK is 44,000 a MONTH. That's nearly the yearly average of 50k, which includes all the gagillionaires, meaning several people make below that average
Yeah, but they're probably not gonna get work for a whole month.. writers are only needed for a short time.. so they could be stuck with a few weeks? And then months between the next job.
Plus not sure how much rent is costing in Hollywood but in Austin my lawyer friend is makes 50,000 and still shares rent.. she's just barely comfortable as her rent went up a to almost 5,000 for the month..
I make about 35 - 40 a year
Double check your math, you will be much angrier at these greedy bums.
$11,000 a week for 52 weeks is a LOT more than $50,000 a year.
@@ghost307 I'm comparing the month at 44k to the 50k yearly average.
@@Yukosan13 you work for the show not for the company that produces the show. So once the show it done its done. Your basically unemployed immediately. They wont be requesting residuals in the first place if they can keep writing for different show under the production company but that now how production works. It not a 9 to 5 jobs where you can keep working until retired. It pratically a project based employement.
Listen, if any Hollywood Studios are reading this, I will accept that job for 9,000 per week.
Brilliant tactical move. As if we didn't care about the writers before,this will make us care even less.
Divide and conquer. The world was made aware that the studios had plans to "starve them out (the writers)" and there was much ballyhoo and blowback against the studios. In order to counter that, this strategic move to "leak" this info now paints the other side of the fence where we can see just how greedy and out of touch those writers really are. Those who were only too happy with that pay will now eat their own, and the studios will just sit back and laugh (and rightfully so). This will undoubtedly cause a lot of in-fighting in the WGA, not to mention the atrocious optics that this brings for them in the public eye.
The studios used a common but still highly effective strategy here. As much as I loathe them on principal for their shenanigans, even I have to admit this was tactically brilliant. Now the WGA will have the public AND their own members to stave off.
11K a week to write absolute rubbish and nonsense? I'm in the wrong career field...
It’s interesting when they say, “livable wage,” they really mean a bigger cut. They have gotten lost in their own sauce, thinking that the shoulders they stand on now belong to them.
They are clearly out of touch.
They see "Movie made 400k dollars" and they think "And I didn't even get 10% of that!"
Let A.I. replace them all , writing can't get any worse
I'm sure this reasonable demand will rally much of the public to their cause.
Most definitely, I was on the side of the machines until I heard this, now I’m even more on the side of the machines thanks to these losers’ greed and arrogance.
I'm insulted that they're insulted. I would LOVE to get paid $11,000 a week!
Writer's aren't against using AI in general, they are just against not getting paid for using the AI themselves.
There's going to be a lot of unhappy people when the U.S. Copyright Office rejects the copyright registration of the AI-written script those people submitted.
Just last week a federal court ruled AI-generated artwork cannot be copyrighted, a decision fully in keeping with U.S. copyright law and multiple previous legal decisions upholding the human authorship requirement. An AI-written book or script would surely be treated no differently than AI-generated artwork.
@@primmakinsofis614I find it hard to believe they’ll stick to that. When you stab a guy in a bodega and the victim gets arrested, I don’t trust the courts
@@primmakinsofis614 So someone takes the output from the AI and changes it enough to get a copyright.
@@primmakinsofis614 People don't seem to udnerstand AI....They can use Ai to write their stuff without getting caught...how are the studios and such gonna know? AI art work is more obvious because you can tell when someone is copying someone drawing style or character that they created...BUT how will you know a writer used AI to write their work? They wont be using it to copy stuff form the internet, and as long as they don't copy an entire paragraph or unique sentence of someone's work, no one will know what you used to write your work with. Ai can be used for research, editing, rephrasing sentences, you can even give it specific writing prompts to create something unique. AI Art work though is something a lot easier to shut down. That said, people with genuine talent gonna outclass any AI writing and activist writers any day of the week.
AI seems like a red-herring to divert attention from the main issues. While it is unfair in some instances and needs to be regulated, AI doesn't effect them as much as it does us whom don't make thousands of dollars per-week to write trash.
You could literally make a formulaic lightbulb joke out of what Kneon said.
"How many Writers Guild of America members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
"Just one: the Showrunner, but they have to have 25 staff writers for support."
Genius move by leaking this info. F this industry
I'd gladly take that job offer. Where do I sign?
ill scab right now and follow lore. And I dont need a writers room.
Everybody in the area should form a Scab's union post-haste!
Same...sign me up.
Remember that these are the same people that have the luxury of being able to refuse to work for days and weeks, complaining about starvation wages. *STARVATION WAGES!*
Eleven THOUSAND a week! And they have the gall to complain about starvation wages.
$11k a week!? Holy hell, i need to start writing!
I’m starting to think the studios weren’t the bad guys.. it was always the entitled writers.
The studios and many big companies' issues are that they let way too many activist workers bully them and gave them too much power.
It's not so much the writers as much as their union.
Nah it’s all of them
Dude, do they have any idea how much that could cover rent, utilities AND food could for the average working person with 11,000$ per WEEK!?
I hope they fail at this point
I hope they fail
That would cover my rent, all my bills, groceries (even going a bit fancy on some things), and build up some respectable savings. I'd take that in the blink of an eye.
With 11k per week I would only have to work two years to be set for life.
one week of work can have them living VERY comfy even in California, unless they drugging it out, they should all be living well.
I am always sick of hearing about the Film Actors Guild.
Average American to studios: I’ll write for that per week and I’ll write better stuff than the current crap
Hollywood, for heavens sake; just fire them.
They're a waste of time, money and effort, and they produce garbage. AI would at least be cheaper.
$11K A WEEK!? You have to be doing some seriously good work making the studio major bank on the regular to deserve that much. You have to worth something. I see nothing from the VAST majority of the "professional" writers to justify even $1100 a week.
According to the WGA, a writer on a streaming show work 20 weeks. At 11,000 a week, that is 220,000 for that contract. (They can work more then one contract a year) the median weekly earnings for full-time workers (USA) in 2022 was 1,100 or just under 60,000 a year. So 11,000 a week vs 1,100 a week, the writers want 10x the money then the avarage worker. And remember, if they are in demand, the writer can do it twice, in a year. Thus, doubling their pay.
I would do *terrible* things for 11K each week.
I bet some people would be willing to commit horrendous crimes for that number.
@@the11382 like write shows like velma
You mean, writing things like She-Hulk? You wouldn´t go that far.
@@the11382looking at San Francisco, people are willing to do horrendous things for less than a 1000 per smash and grab
You pay me 11k a week and I'd gladly go commit atrocities and crimes against humanity. Just point at the next genocide and have the checks ready.
I barely make that in a year, and they're insulted over it?
Wow........I 100% do not support these people at all after hearing this.
They expect to get paid this much after the unwatchable shlock they've been pumping out over the past decade!?
I hope the majority of these people end up completely broke.
So you are saying you supported them at one time KNOWING that they write trash all along?
@@sahdirellis4901 No, you're just putting words in people's mouths, the same way these morons do.
I'm in the wrong business. They wouldn't hire me though. Wrong Race, wrong gender, wrong religion.
Because they denied this offer, I hope they pay them less. I can’t believe they offered this much money.
Because this is released by a spin doctoe?
Insult me, PLEASE insult me! For half a million dollars a year, PLEASE insult me!
I'll write for 5K a week, but only if I can do it from MY house which is nowhere near California. I'm actually decent at it, know how to do scenes, dialogue, character arcs, etc. I can do action, fantasy, science fiction, superheroes, and more. I'm not ever joining a union, so I'm free of all that baggage. I have nothing but time on my hands and would love to get into a project.
Hard agree. We should be able to do it from home now, maybe take a couple of needed trips, all expenses paid by the studio, but majority of it can be done from home now.
Have the studios supply us with VR headsets for zoom sessions and we will be golden for remote work at that salary offer of 11k a week. I will gladly take the offer if it’s remote work too!
Same. Work from home, $5k a week for 10 weeks.
That is double what i make for a full year of work.
I don't know what i would do with 42 weeks of vacation each year.
Hollywood, do you accept long distance writers? I'm on the opposite coast but I'll do it for 11k a week.
I'll do it for 10k and respect the lore
I'll take $11000 a year to write for Hollywood. Gimme a call!
Can you imagine a She-hulk or Obi-wan writer getting $11,000 week! That's ridiculous
20 writers making $11,000 week for 9 weeks to make 6 episodes of she-hulk. ~= 2 million dollars
@@brusso456did this show have 20 writers?! 🤣
They should add a 0...that way no one will ever have to suffer them again
I would love that! I could afford an house with that sort of money
Saddly ithe average home price in that area is $710k+ 700k for the land. 10k for the 500 square foot shed.
@@hexenhammer483they're writers, they can afford to move out after a year and buy a gigantic ranch. And if they're as good as they CLAIM to be, they will be sought after talent.
@@hexenhammer483I don't know if you noticed but 11k a week is easily over half a million dollars a year
You can literally write from anywhere
@@Edino_Chattinoright? Fuck writers rooms. Let's have a zoom call or something and I can type up a script from the comfort of my own home.
I make 20 dollars an hour cooking food that would literally put you on your knees when you put it in your mouth.. and someone is getting paid 11 thousand dollars a week to write trash nobody even wants to watch.. oh I 100% feel for these people 👍
Nice to see what 'starvation wages' mean for them. I don't know what my wage is then but it's far far below that.
11k a week for shit 8 year olds could write.
Never give your money to companies that never support you. Any corporate industry is bad. That is why independent creators have been a thing, to ensure they could create fun stuff for their fans. Censorship is bad in all forms.
“Censorship is bad in all forms” censoring pornography and other deviant shit is bad cus reasons
I don’t support the strike after this offer but your point is great and I agree 100
@@Korvinian4601 actually there are good reasons for even that . By tabooing sex and other things you repress people and they tend to act worse in secret
@@jacobhall4055 That argument doesn’t work, since yes, it’s better off if they do it secretly rather than harm other people.
If you think we just ban things and call it a day then no, you are wrong, people need to be informed about the dangers of things as well as full censorship
@@Korvinian4601 I think certain things don’t belong infront of kids obviously. But outright banning it for everyone is wrong as well so we get stuck in a grey area on fringe. For example I don’t like drag shows and I don’t think kids should be around them but I would never try to stop one that is just for adults and say they can’t do it.
WGA is now starting to piss me off.
This is why I do VFX as a freelancer and still keep my day job. These gigs seem like a lot of money at once but they don't come often, so I keep my day job for financial sanity.
Edit: no I don't want a union.
Even when I was working a union gig (artist, not writer), I kept my job at the local comic shop on weekends just in case. Boy, am I glad I did!
Right? Like, I get that there's space between jobs...but that's just it. They want to treat it like it ISN'T temp work when it really, REALLY is. If you're gonna work a temp job, you _kinda_ need to hustle. That's the nature of temp jobs, in my eyes. That's why I refuse to work a job that relies on tips or commission, or ones that are clearly temporary/seasonal. I need something steady, long-term, and reliable.
These people don’t live on planet earth.
The WGA members are stealing money from the talented. They should give the money back.
Yup...But this reveal should motivate many regular degulars...Take a script writing course and give it a shot, cause as long as you're not writing political activism in your work it'll be great or at least 10x better than what we are getting now. Im actually motivated.
No wonder studio budgets are so out of control!
Wow ... the sense of entitlement from these so-called writers and their hangers-on. Whatever sympathy they may have, it's definitely up in smoke now. If it even existed at all.
I would literally commit war crimes for 11,000 a week
$9,000 a week is more than double what I make in a month. That's the kind of money that I'd be looking at moving across the country for.
Can someone insult me with 11K a week please?
I wouldn't mind getting $572,000 a year. I wouldn't mind even getting $11,000 a month.
I'll write whatever they want for $10,999 per week.
O0o If this is true, those writers can screw off. $11,000 a week even in LA is livable. Like many have said, I will gladly take that just add dental and health insurance.
10 Weeks minimum and they're already paid $9k. It sounds like they NEED a pay cut if anything.