For a lot of people who grew up with the original games, this was probably the case. Imagine, you're in this completely new game world filled with monsters at every turn. Now you've suddenly entered a dark, maze like forest. What new creatures could possibly be waiting for you inside? Not to mention Kakuna is probably one of the creepiest looking Pokemon of gen 1 in my opinion. At least, to a child. Looking back as an adult, all of the Pokemon in Viridian Forest are merely weak bugs. (Unless you're lucky enough to find a Pikachu or Pidgeotto, of course.)
@@TheFoxFromSplashMountain Big facts here, Kakuna looks like an invasive extra terrestial spy. The big eyes and back in the games it had the weird blades. But the worst part when we had to encounter Mewtwo, he looked so weirdly botched and barely matured, like a fetus ripped out of the womb, the sprites of gen 1 were rather demanding for a 7 year old me.
@@ChupeTTe They were indeed much more disturbing back in gen 1. I always thought it was strange that Pokemon were called 'monsters' since most of them were so cute and appealing, but the gen 1 sprites definitely deserve that title.
This makes sense because in Gen 1 the music was so unsettling but that was probably out of fear because it's the start of ur journey. But in HGSS wen u go there it's like the end of ur journey so it feels much more comfortable.
the original theme had a small resemblance to the rocket hideout theme, but as in HG and SS all that has already ended, the theme becomes calmer, but still your comment may also apply (sorry for my english, i'm using the translator)
A lot of people say the reason for the change is because of how you’ve already beaten the champion, but I feel like there’s more to it. It feels as if it also represents how Pokémon have changed in the way they were depicted. In gen 1, they were depicted as dangerous monsters to be controlled, but slowly become our friends as we become more familiar with them as the generations go by. What was once a perilous trek through a dark forest filled with dangerous creatures becomes a pleasant walk through the wild with your friends by your side, meeting new friends along the way, growing stronger together. Rather than controlling them, you work side by side with them. They aren’t just monsters anymore, they’re our friends.
I heard a cool theory that Gen 10 will be based on Japan again, essentially being the full region for the place u visit in sv dlc. If that's true, I hope they give ilex forest an arrangement like this same thing with the lighthouse/mt silver.
@Ikey Ilex Agree to disagree. Them limiting the groovy tunes is better imo, how can I focus on the game if every hour I was jamming the the OST instead?
Red started his journey near Viridian forest, which was challenging that time. Meanwhile Gold became Johto champion, Viridian forest is not that terrfying, thats why the music become lighter?
yeah exactly. The sound producer probably had an amazing time remixing music from the game before it. Creating a soft atmosphere that was once horrifying for the player, now calm and as you venture through the forest once more. Of course in the first game, the start would be quite terrifying, but once you become the champion in the johto region of the second game, you feel ontop of the world. a few bugs aren't as terrifying as you huge Feraligatr or Typhlosion. While going through kanto, you feel like nothing can stop you, and the music represents that. You've become champion, what else is there to fear? of course, the gym leaders. Thats why their music is so much more intense. They show that they're not the brock or misty you remember, but stronger, more improved versions of themselves. You have grown since you started off your journey, and so have the leaders since the last leader ruled the region. basically, the music tells a story, a story of growth and evolution, humans do it just like pokemon, just not in the same way.
I actually like how they made the (when I was a kid that's what I thought) eerie original theme into an upbeat theme. This is my favorite remix of the music ever!
Something I find genius about the Kanto HG/SS soundtrack is that it embraces its Gen 1 origins and takes them one step further than Gold/Silver did. For example, even if this is overall a direct remix from the Gold/Silver Viridian Forest theme, you can hear a little melody from the Red/Blue version around 0:49 that wasn't actually included in Gold/Silver. But they re-introduced it here in a way that doesn't clash with the happier tone of the new track.
@@psuedonym9999 Guess you're right! I only remembered it from gen 2, which was the one I played. Looking back it seemed the forest went back to its usual size in gen 3.
@@dustinjones7458 yeah, the GBA cartridges had enough space for the upgraded tileset, all Pokemon up to Gen III, all of Kanto, *and* a new bonus area in the form of the Sevii Islands (that 6-year-old me never got to completely experience because I didn't know that you could get the national dex with only 60 Pokemon seen, I thought you had to see every Pokemon and I had missed a trainer somewhere that I could *never find*). So of course the DS cartridges could fit even more, and certainly enough to give Kanto the treatment it deserves.
This is hands down my favorite number in all of the Pokemon series. Man, there’s just something about it that makes me feel so good and happy. And it’s one of the rare occurrences where it sounds just as good sped up on my emulator as it does in standard speed.
Why is the music so happy in Gen II, yet in that generation the forest has been cut down? That makes no sense. It's like being angry when someone gave you something you've always wanted.
I guess they didn't like insects xD, no trees = no insects= happy music. JK, they didn't remove the viridian forest because they wanted to, it's because of the lack of memory of gameboy cartridges.
+moo Good point. Although, I just realized after looking at the game again that the trees aren't cut down, they're just smaller! So the forest wasn't cut down after all!
Memory limitations. Do y'all forget how hard it was to make this game? Kanto as a whole was a heck of a challenge to incorporate into G/S/C. Iwata suggested that Kanto be included and had the smarts to work around limitations, which as you can imagine required some condensing.
I listened to this song alot when the Pandemic started! And now i'm looking back at it like, dude!! I kind miss all of that wacky and crazy shit that was happening at the beginning of Covid... Sure, the online lessons were boring and people were scared of the virus, but other than that, i loved the freedom and peace i had in that period. I wish Covid was just that, a temporary relaxing experience with dark undertones, but nope it lasted 2 years, geez! Time sure flies!
@@Zonefire15 Real answer: A sitcom from the 1980s about a wisecracking alien living with an ordinary suburban American family. Joke answer: You're 93 years old and you don't know what ALF is?!
If Viridian Forest were in a Legends: Arceus type of game, I'd like it to play the RBY version at first, then after you beat the boss this is what it changes to.
Well, the reason the original was so creepy is because it was Ash' first real encounter with trainers, in a place on his own... etc. When you're Silver/whatever the hell his name is, you've already beat the Pokemon League, you're the champion. Weedles and other low level Pokemon aren't enough to really faze you.
It was never particularly dangerous it just seemed scary because the protagonist was just starting their journey, qhile i gac the protagonist only reaches it after already lo g since becoming a champion.
Yeah, but think about it, it's pretty fitting. +Uzaho2 said it pretty well, when you enter this dungeon as Red, you're inexperienced, and this is you're first real dungeon, making it seem much more dark and foreboding. As Ethan/Gold, you (probably) have a team of around Lv.50-60s, you're more than capable of dealing with Lv.4-5 Weedles and Caterpies. At this point you've braved Victory Road, this is just a pleasant stroll in a forest.
I like most of the HGSS music but this one is... meh. It's too happy. I like the weird, creepy, nail-biting, there's-something-following-you feel of the original.
That's because Viridian Forest is the first area with Trainers in gen 1. Ofc it's gonna be creepy. By the time you reach Viridian Forest in Gen 2/4, you've already beaten the champion and have at least a couple Kanto Badges. The forest has also been cut down in that time.
***** The reason it is so light hearted compared to the original.. As Silver, you're already the Champion, your level 50-ish team is more than enough to take care of level 4 caterpies and weedles. As Red/Ash, it was your first true "dungeon" so to speak on your own, that's why it was so dark/creepy.
EmeraldVladi I know this post was made long ago, but you aware that it’s because in GSC and HGSS, the wild Pokémon were way lower leveled compared to RGBY, where the wild Pokémon were equally leveled to the player, and also you being the champion in GSC and HGSS, making it all a cake walk, right?
This is the sound of looking back at something you were scared of as a child and realising how silly it was to be afraid of it
Perfect comment
Very true
For a lot of people who grew up with the original games, this was probably the case. Imagine, you're in this completely new game world filled with monsters at every turn. Now you've suddenly entered a dark, maze like forest. What new creatures could possibly be waiting for you inside? Not to mention Kakuna is probably one of the creepiest looking Pokemon of gen 1 in my opinion. At least, to a child. Looking back as an adult, all of the Pokemon in Viridian Forest are merely weak bugs. (Unless you're lucky enough to find a Pikachu or Pidgeotto, of course.)
@@TheFoxFromSplashMountain
Big facts here, Kakuna looks like an invasive extra terrestial spy. The big eyes and back in the games it had the weird blades. But the worst part when we had to encounter Mewtwo, he looked so weirdly botched and barely matured, like a fetus ripped out of the womb, the sprites of gen 1 were rather demanding for a 7 year old me.
@@ChupeTTe They were indeed much more disturbing back in gen 1. I always thought it was strange that Pokemon were called 'monsters' since most of them were so cute and appealing, but the gen 1 sprites definitely deserve that title.
This makes sense because in Gen 1 the music was so unsettling but that was probably out of fear because it's the start of ur journey. But in HGSS wen u go there it's like the end of ur journey so it feels much more comfortable.
the original theme had a small resemblance to the rocket hideout theme, but as in HG and SS all that has already ended, the theme becomes calmer, but still your comment may also apply (sorry for my english, i'm using the translator)
same feeling; it's like everything is resolved, especially in Lavender Town
it sounds like going back to your childhood playground after graduating.
Beating the shit outta the kids cuz im overlevelled
Oh my god you’re so righttt!!!
@@burritowyrm6530 cursed comment
Yea like going back to your old elementary school in high school
Pretty accurate to the spot this plays at on the game
A lot of people say the reason for the change is because of how you’ve already beaten the champion, but I feel like there’s more to it. It feels as if it also represents how Pokémon have changed in the way they were depicted. In gen 1, they were depicted as dangerous monsters to be controlled, but slowly become our friends as we become more familiar with them as the generations go by. What was once a perilous trek through a dark forest filled with dangerous creatures becomes a pleasant walk through the wild with your friends by your side, meeting new friends along the way, growing stronger together. Rather than controlling them, you work side by side with them. They aren’t just monsters anymore, they’re our friends.
Very well said!
fantastic! great comment
i strongly *agree.*
They aren't friends they are tools
I heard a cool theory that Gen 10 will be based on Japan again, essentially being the full region for the place u visit in sv dlc. If that's true, I hope they give ilex forest an arrangement like this same thing with the lighthouse/mt silver.
As my ringtone, this will never get annoying. Why? It's a great tune on top of the fact that no-one calls me.
Yikes, that escalated to somewhere I didn't think it would
Hi, GOLD! How are you? While shopping today, I saw this adorable doll, so I bought it with your money. Sorry! It's in your room. You'll love it!
...
Yeah, same 😂
If this were my ringtone, I would be too busy grooving to answer the phone.
@@ExtremeAce gee willikers oh boy oh gosh
Actually, does anyone else feel this would work well as an hourly theme for an Animal Crossing game?
Yup.
ehhh
Now that you mentioned it, i actually do!
I'd say 5 PM, I get that vibe
@Ikey Ilex Agree to disagree. Them limiting the groovy tunes is better imo, how can I focus on the game if every hour I was jamming the the OST instead?
Red started his journey near Viridian forest, which was challenging that time. Meanwhile Gold became Johto champion, Viridian forest is not that terrfying, thats why the music become lighter?
Gold not yellow, yellow is in Kanto in the start.
@@mikevanmarter2182 yea thx for correcting
@@teyszzz9179 it's ok
Exactly same thoughts
yeah exactly. The sound producer probably had an amazing time remixing music from the game before it. Creating a soft atmosphere that was once horrifying for the player, now calm and as you venture through the forest once more. Of course in the first game, the start would be quite terrifying, but once you become the champion in the johto region of the second game, you feel ontop of the world. a few bugs aren't as terrifying as you huge Feraligatr or Typhlosion. While going through kanto, you feel like nothing can stop you, and the music represents that. You've become champion, what else is there to fear? of course, the gym leaders. Thats why their music is so much more intense. They show that they're not the brock or misty you remember, but stronger, more improved versions of themselves. You have grown since you started off your journey, and so have the leaders since the last leader ruled the region. basically, the music tells a story, a story of growth and evolution, humans do it just like pokemon, just not in the same way.
what relaxing music 🤩
definitely
@@MultiEeveesnos encontramos despues de mucho
I actually like how they made the (when I was a kid that's what I thought) eerie original theme into an upbeat theme. This is my favorite remix of the music ever!
Something I find genius about the Kanto HG/SS soundtrack is that it embraces its Gen 1 origins and takes them one step further than Gold/Silver did.
For example, even if this is overall a direct remix from the Gold/Silver Viridian Forest theme, you can hear a little melody from the Red/Blue version around 0:49 that wasn't actually included in Gold/Silver. But they re-introduced it here in a way that doesn't clash with the happier tone of the new track.
This song is so calming and anxiety-inducing at the same time, oh boy
anxity what lmao trhis gen is way to sensative if upbeat music scares them
First time I heard this was in Storm Silver, it's a weird contrast between getting stomped by ace trainers in their mid-70s
0:31: I love that beat drop
I LOVE the hgss soundtrack's sound font. it is SO GOOD.
Right? HGSS and BW2 have my favorite Pokemon soundfonts
@@ExtremeAce You are correct
Oh my gosh why don’t I remember this?? I’ve beaten the game and I love Pokémon music but I was shocked to hear this rendition of viridian forest
Because in HGSS Viridian forest was downgraded to a tiny shrub maze lol
@@dustinjones7458 you mean in GSC
@@psuedonym9999 Guess you're right! I only remembered it from gen 2, which was the one I played. Looking back it seemed the forest went back to its usual size in gen 3.
@@dustinjones7458 yeah, the GBA cartridges had enough space for the upgraded tileset, all Pokemon up to Gen III, all of Kanto, *and* a new bonus area in the form of the Sevii Islands (that 6-year-old me never got to completely experience because I didn't know that you could get the national dex with only 60 Pokemon seen, I thought you had to see every Pokemon and I had missed a trainer somewhere that I could *never find*). So of course the DS cartridges could fit even more, and certainly enough to give Kanto the treatment it deserves.
@@dustinjones7458 gen 4 not 3
昔怯えてた森が今長い旅が終わってから、あの小さな歩道を見返して、やはり何も怖くなかったよな～と自分の愚かさに笑う。そうやって過去の怖がりの自分を心の中から掘り出して、その涼しき綺麗な木漏れ日の中に前へ進もうとする主人公は故郷帰りの旅を続けた。
Love this version, so nostalgic
Is it just me or this version is so catchy and has a great soundtrack!!😁😊
Yep, I agreed!
This is hands down my favorite number in all of the Pokemon series. Man, there’s just something about it that makes me feel so good and happy. And it’s one of the rare occurrences where it sounds just as good sped up on my emulator as it does in standard speed.
This version has a mysterious, and adventurous tone to it. Very nice!
Hey comment from 10 years ago
@@donaldkennson245 Hey
I just realized how awesome this theme is ^o^
I listen to this cause its relaxing
Damn I can't get enough of this catchy thing
This.. THIS is one of the catchiest pokemon songs
I loved this song back when this game came out. I use to sit with the game-boy to my ear listening to it lol.
***** you're not the only one who does that.
That makes four of us. (D
Dude I never went to the forest in heart gold. I just found this the other day
@@keeganfaulkner1240 so basically you made it to Kanto and stopped playing the game?
Why is the music so happy in Gen II, yet in that generation the forest has been cut down?
That makes no sense. It's like being angry when someone gave you something you've always wanted.
I guess they didn't like insects xD, no trees = no insects= happy music.
JK, they didn't remove the viridian forest because they wanted to, it's because of the lack of memory of gameboy cartridges.
+moo Good point. Although, I just realized after looking at the game again that the trees aren't cut down, they're just smaller! So the forest wasn't cut down after all!
Memory limitations. Do y'all forget how hard it was to make this game? Kanto as a whole was a heck of a challenge to incorporate into G/S/C. Iwata suggested that Kanto be included and had the smarts to work around limitations, which as you can imagine required some condensing.
AGiLE-EaGLE1994 in HGSS the forest isn’t cut down though
@@satyamSaha yeah, because they were dealing with better hardware.
Sounds like nostalgia, I feel really old😔
this theme brings me nothing but comfort
this is such a vibe
I listened to this song alot when the Pandemic started! And now i'm looking back at it like, dude!! I kind miss all of that wacky and crazy shit that was happening at the beginning of Covid... Sure, the online lessons were boring and people were scared of the virus, but other than that, i loved the freedom and peace i had in that period. I wish Covid was just that, a temporary relaxing experience with dark undertones, but nope it lasted 2 years, geez! Time sure flies!
Since no one else wants to address it...
I recently realized this straight-up sounds like the opening theme from ALF.
Huh? What's ALF?
@@Zonefire15 Real answer: A sitcom from the 1980s about a wisecracking alien living with an ordinary suburban American family.
Joke answer: You're 93 years old and you don't know what ALF is?!
One of the most underrated Pokémon themes of all time
"Viridian Elevator Music"
Yep, the vibraphone really makes it.
Just hearing the music of Viridian Forest reminds me a lot of my childhood good times
Went from creepy to cool on hold music
I assume the same goes for lavender town
@Lucas Ramirez Uhh
@@olidblak2598 uhh
Uhh
Uhh
Uhn
Viridian forest is just as scary as it always was, but now with upbeat music!
This version is so good
breaking news: trees are no longer scary
Such nostalgia, and I hadn't even played the game til last year
Oh, this version sounds so much nicer.
Viridian Forest Zone Good Future
sounds like a song you hear on a confidant date in a persona game.
I can hear that
Kind of, I guess ? But just the part at 0:32
If pokemon had a heartfelt moment in a live action
Less threatening than the fr/lg version.
I never played this version it sounds so happily 😊. I would like to play it on a sunset afternoon.
happily!!!!!!
Gen 2 made Viridian Forest, Mt Moon, and Lavender Town much more pleasant than Gen 1
Now we know where viridi got her name from O:
best song to rp to
Nostalgia
really nostalgic
If Viridian Forest were in a Legends: Arceus type of game, I'd like it to play the RBY version at first, then after you beat the boss this is what it changes to.
Going up?... Which floor Sir?.... Gent's and sports...4th floor...hope on!
This is the soundtrack to a pikachu's life.
Before you call Bug Catchers weak, hear this: Aaron, one of the Elite Four members in Sinnoh, was a bug catcher.
he was also weak. and on the bottom of the 4.
@@boyshair4133 So what? He is strong still. How do you think he came into the rank of Elite Four?
@@boyshair4133 At least he is in the Elite four XD
Weakest elite four ever lol
Permafreux Holy shit you really did comment this on two videos
Play this when i die
Nice
Nice
nice
nice
Nice
“I ain’t scared of no ghosts!”
I love all of the viridian forest's musics andd I got used to gen 1 and gen 3's
Me hace ver el día de manera diferente... :3 en pocas palabras... Me hace el día :D
+saulo andre perez sandoval Si, es hermosa.
when you go back to kanto after defeating red
One more song for my "Favourite Pokemon Songs" list
Aound alike revisting your old school
Heart gold made lavender town sound not scary now they do it with viridian forest
Yes I find the viridan forest theme eerie
Well, the reason the original was so creepy is because it was Ash' first real encounter with trainers, in a place on his own... etc. When you're Silver/whatever the hell his name is, you've already beat the Pokemon League, you're the champion. Weedles and other low level Pokemon aren't enough to really faze you.
"Ash"
Ew
Probably Ash, probably us... all of us that went through this particular place.
The saga with Ash's Butterfree is still bittersweet to me.
Silver was bad Gary lol
The guys called gold I think
Red not Ash.
atleast this one has more of a beat, still don't like how it doesn't have the feel that something is going to pop out at you.
n_n" me pone feliz
el ritmo de la musica lo es
RDR2 is the only game to give me the same vibes that Gen 2 gave me, when going back to a world I had spent so much time in before.
previous theme was creepy and look like a deep forest. But this one just look like a playin park theme
Would make perfect elevator music :3
A surprising number of HGSS themes would make good elevator music actually
Sounds like how Sundays feel.
How did this place turn into to a dangerous territory to begin with in Jonto time
It was never particularly dangerous it just seemed scary because the protagonist was just starting their journey, qhile i gac the protagonist only reaches it after already lo g since becoming a champion.
hermosa song
this is so much more lighthearted than the frlg and rby versions
so kool!
requesting 10 hour version
It wouldn't, because people wouldn't leave the elevator anymore :P
Green Thicket Zone (Good Future) :)
0:30
make 10 hour version
When did the avatar enjoy pokemon!?
I just liked all the comments with no likes because wynaut
Wynaut like ur comment to
@@lightofthenightsky wynaut u too
@@Adster2008 reminder for you to listen to this song again
@@CarolineJames-ck2dq aye thanks lad appreciate it
Hmm... maybe they needed a break after that element stuff! XD
Thats the sound of wild weedels and caterpies, and sometimes a wild Pikachu.
When I'm not in the creepy-mood this is what I want to hear. Quite nice, actually. But when I am in that creepy-mood, I listen to the original.
Viridian Forest Theme AKA Searching for a Pikachu with a Light Ball.
While I like this song, it doesn’t have that “We don’t take kindly to you Johto folks.” Kinda vibe.
Hey I love you...this video is awesome :3
8 years... but i love u too
@@nice5773 yas
Who's Viridi?
That one girl from Kid Icarus
Burned by an Airbender. o_o
Sounds similar to Kokomo from the beach boys
From kid Icarus uprising.
huh... the original sounded dismal, and foreboding. this sounds upbeat, and swanky...
Oh my god, that profile pic (._.')
Yeah, but think about it, it's pretty fitting. +Uzaho2 said it pretty well, when you enter this dungeon as Red, you're inexperienced, and this is you're first real dungeon, making it seem much more dark and foreboding. As Ethan/Gold, you (probably) have a team of around Lv.50-60s, you're more than capable of dealing with Lv.4-5 Weedles and Caterpies. At this point you've braved Victory Road, this is just a pleasant stroll in a forest.
Idk :P
This sounds like elevator music
L ?
I like most of the HGSS music but this one is... meh. It's too happy. I like the weird, creepy, nail-biting, there's-something-following-you feel of the original.
That's because Viridian Forest is the first area with Trainers in gen 1. Ofc it's gonna be creepy. By the time you reach Viridian Forest in Gen 2/4, you've already beaten the champion and have at least a couple Kanto Badges. The forest has also been cut down in that time.
I like the original is better as it felt darker and creeper.
***** The reason it is so light hearted compared to the original.. As Silver, you're already the Champion, your level 50-ish team is more than enough to take care of level 4 caterpies and weedles. As Red/Ash, it was your first true "dungeon" so to speak on your own, that's why it was so dark/creepy.
Uzaho2 *Ethan or Lyra... Silver is the rival.
@@jet-set-ratio gold
I hate how screw up the mysterious atmosphere in the GSC and HG SS games >:(
EmeraldVladi I know this post was made long ago, but you aware that it’s because in GSC and HGSS, the wild Pokémon were way lower leveled compared to RGBY, where the wild Pokémon were equally leveled to the player, and also you being the champion in GSC and HGSS, making it all a cake walk, right?
i hate how u r dumb
Hey I love you..this video is awesome :3
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