Those folks standing on the end- the officials- have years of training under their belts and know where they can stand and be safe. It’s certainly something not everyone can do as it does take a certain level of confidence and bravery. I officiate the throws and shot put is actually the easiest to get comfortable with. Discus and Javelin are the hardest as they can be more unpredictable. Hammer- you have to learn the three foot two inch rule- stand closer then that and you’ll get whipped by the wire- which will slice like a hot knife through butter.
ya if you don't think olympians aren't juicing now you're crazy. It ain't like how it is here in America all across the globe. Some of these countries put everything in to their olympians, get the best of the best of the best.
The steroid era in baseball started in the late 80’s. Not a coincidence that they also broke the shot put Olympic record 5 times in 1 day in the late 80’s.
Steroids had been around for decades and certainly none of the shotputters looks especially muscular. The discus throwing technique might have had something to do with it, in addition to more people competing in it. You'd also have to check the height and weight of the competitors compared to a decade earlier.
“ in one day the Olympic record had been smashed five times by three different people” and that folks is the first time steroids where seen at the Olympics
Actually that was the 1976 Olympics and the East German women's swimmers who won 10 of the 12 Gold Medals to every other country's surprise. That's when jokes started that East German women athletes were actually males.
The world record was NOT broken. Timmermann had set the world record earlier in 1988 at 23.06. His gold medal throw in Seoul was 22.47. If you look at the video of his winning throw in the sixth round, it falls sort of the red line on the ground which represents the world record distance. The folks who edit the content here should be a little more thorough in their research.
Aren't they talking about Olympic records... Ah I see, the video description is at odds with the actual contents of the video. In the video the Olympic records are clearly referred to.
No ,the world record wasn’t broken there ,the first 23m throw was in May same year in Chania/Greece,where Timmermann reached 23,06m(his first world record was 22.62m in Berlin 22.9.1985,I saw that live)
I tried the shot put for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm 47 and haven't worked out any time recently so not close to as strong as if I was hitting the gym a few hours a week. First few were getting around 21 feet with a 16 pound ball. Interested to see how much I can gain on that. It's definitely tougher than it looks on TV.
But what's the problem in using a 16lb shot put for women. Women would still be competing against other women. A HEAVY BALL IS HEAVY FOR ALL WOMEN!!! So the results would still be the same.
There are no throws in the shot put (correct/original word is putt, as in golf). There are only puts (putts). In fact it is against the rules to throw the shot.
@Chris D'oulmeth well I know for a fact that not every record breaking athlete dopes. Where there is money there is doping but where the sport still has a level of amateurism to it you wont find anywhere as many cheats
Why does the Olympic channel even make a vid about that. Everybody knows that Barnes, Timmermann, Günthör and probably the rest of the field were doped.
Never heard of a shot put incident, but witnessed a discus knocking out a judge, a hammer hitting the guy from the back(kidney removed the following day) and there is a video on YT showing javeling hitting a jumper tip first.
there is no way to reduce the 'distance' in shotput. the 'distance' is the ground - its how they measure who throws the farthest, that's it. They reduce the weight in the shotput because it's a physiological fact that men have more upper body strength than women. Women can get more of an arc if the weight is lowered, which allows for better technique. Also, 16 lbs is hard to mold into a shotput small enough for women to grasp. Women's hands are also, again on the hole, smaller than men's so there's less of a grip to encapsulate the weight, so again, there must be modifications. Sure, women CAN throw the men's shotput (I have), especially at the Olympic level but, on the hole, it doesn't lend itself very well for good technique (or distance).
May have been a great watch at the time and these guys surely are top athletes in their field but, like most comments here already pointed out: Barnes and Timmermann at least are also well documented dopers. So save your plaudits.
Randy Barnes stated that he took drugs for his whole career. The East Germans had a doping program too as well as the soviets. And please don't think that the Americans or anybody didn't take drugs. Look at Griffith-Joyner or Carl Lewis. Just a stupid comment. It was a horrible time in sports between the 50's until like 2010, when the performances slowly got a little bit worse. Almost every athlete doped and many died (Tom Simpson, Joyner,...) or suffered from cancer.
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Inqu'aanate no, women and men have anthropological differences, the men's shot put would be too big and thick for the average woman. Same reason the Olympic bars in weightlifting are thinner, shorter and 5kg lighter for women than they are for the men.
Alex Karakatsanis firstly, you clearly don’t know what anthropological means, morphological is the correct word for the sentence. Wether or not you injure yourself is all to do with technique, as someone who has done shot put before, they could just throw it less far. The bar being narrower does make sense because women usually have smaller hands but it should not weigh less, they could just lift less weight.
Inqu'aanate you are right thats the word I was going for. And I'm not sure it has to do with injury, it has to do with equalizing the conditions and comfort of throwing the shot put. As you said, smaller hands so they naturally need a smaller ball. And as for the weights, they lift way less weight even with the 15 kg bar but it's hard to make a bar smaller and thinner without decreasing the weight of it perhaps. (Maybe the same with the shot put?)
Inqu'aanate then they just do it to have an "even playing field" in terms of results and numbers. Shot put records are similar between men and women but ofcourse that's only possible with different weighted balls
I don't know why they have men's and women's teams. They should mix them. Maybe some sports you have no women, maybe some sports you have majority women.
Because no matter how much we all love equality, men and women ARE different. Mainly because of the difference between testosterone and estrogen. If the chemicals we're switched in then the physical dominance will likely switch as well.
How many events do you want to compete at during the Olympics?
Ostermeyer: Yes
Those people standing at the end of the throw got balls
I agree. They can get hit by the shotput or javelin. Scary.
They actually do when you think about it
Those folks standing on the end- the officials- have years of training under their belts and know where they can stand and be safe. It’s certainly something not everyone can do as it does take a certain level of confidence and bravery. I officiate the throws and shot put is actually the easiest to get comfortable with. Discus and Javelin are the hardest as they can be more unpredictable. Hammer- you have to learn the three foot two inch rule- stand closer then that and you’ll get whipped by the wire- which will slice like a hot knife through butter.
The 88 Olympics was the olympics to see which country had the best drugs cheating programme.
Indeed. Same with now.
ya if you don't think olympians aren't juicing now you're crazy. It ain't like how it is here in America all across the globe. Some of these countries put everything in to their olympians, get the best of the best of the best.
@@brandonfreeman6517 So it is like how it is in America then.
@@SilencedButNotForgotten No, now most of the countries leave it up to the athletes to cheat on the countries behalf.
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Barns photo shoot had me dead
The steroid era in baseball started in the late 80’s. Not a coincidence that they also broke the shot put Olympic record 5 times in 1 day in the late 80’s.
30 years ago.. dang. Now body builders are the users
East german (GDR) doped their athletes. The winner was an east german
@@zTheRPR so did and does to this day everyone else, Muricans leading the pack.
6 times
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"These bananas are empty... YEET!"
😂
1:02 - They put in a squeaky sound to seal the fact its just a stuffed toy and not a real dog. XD
yeah. PETA would be knocking at the door otherwise 😆
No fooling this one
"German Ulf Timmermann and American Randy Barnes engage in a shot put duel " to see who took the most drugs.
Here are the 3 Olympics held in London -
1) London 1908
2) London 1948
3) London 2012
1988, olympic record broken multiple times, yeah i think we all know what we can put that down to..
skill?
@@neotheone7923 roids
So you're saying the Olympic record that belongs to Ryan CROUSER now is not clean?
Tumatai Dauphin probably not.
Steroids had been around for decades and certainly none of the shotputters looks especially muscular. The discus throwing technique might have had something to do with it, in addition to more people competing in it. You'd also have to check the height and weight of the competitors compared to a decade earlier.
“ in one day the Olympic record had been smashed five times by three different people” and that folks is the first time steroids where seen at the Olympics
Hu
Hardly! LOL
Actually that was the 1976 Olympics and the East German women's swimmers who won 10 of the 12 Gold Medals to every other country's surprise. That's when jokes started that East German women athletes were actually males.
So cool😉steroids or healthy.
Is "testosterone boosting" a "drug"? It's something your body creates natrual. Is using something that raises it all that bad?
The world record was NOT broken. Timmermann had set the world record earlier in 1988 at 23.06. His gold medal throw in Seoul was 22.47. If you look at the video of his winning throw in the sixth round, it falls sort of the red line on the ground which represents the world record distance. The folks who edit the content here should be a little more thorough in their research.
Yes, it's sloppy...
Aren't they talking about Olympic records... Ah I see, the video description is at odds with the actual contents of the video. In the video the Olympic records are clearly referred to.
Ostermeyer 3 weeks before: Lets try some discuss throw Ostermeyer Now: Oh, very well, I made the world record at olympics
No ,the world record wasn’t broken there ,the first 23m throw was in May same year in Chania/Greece,where Timmermann reached 23,06m(his first world record was 22.62m in Berlin 22.9.1985,I saw that live)
1:45 what a legend
Olympic Record, not World...
World Record, yes. But in that time.
World Record is always quicker or equivalent to Olympic record.
He didn’t break the world record ,,he broke the Olympic Record(World record was in May in Chania ,23.06m)
I tried the shot put for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm 47 and haven't worked out any time recently so not close to as strong as if I was hitting the gym a few hours a week. First few were getting around 21 feet with a 16 pound ball. Interested to see how much I can gain on that. It's definitely tougher than it looks on TV.
lmao when he threw the stuffed toy
48 bananas ah yes the American System of measurement
Idk why we started talking about women’s shot put halfway through...
im glad they did. i was more impressed with that part of the story.
txAlex doesn’t really fit the title, I think it would have been better in its own video, not stapled on.
@@txalex no you weren't
But what's the problem in using a 16lb shot put for women. Women would still be competing against other women. A HEAVY BALL IS HEAVY FOR ALL WOMEN!!! So the results would still be the same.
welcome to the post modern era. you're gna love it
3:37 foul much
No cockapoos were harmed in making this video
My favorite game
There are no throws in the shot put (correct/original word is putt, as in golf). There are only puts (putts).
In fact it is against the rules to throw the shot.
yes of course. generically the 3 events- shot put, discus, javelin are known as the THROWS
3:20 being good at playing the piano doesn't mean you're intelligent. It just means you're good at playing the piano.
true that
And for goos measure she was performing Beethovens Piano sonata 8 after the competition
Better bodies through chemistry!
a woman winning the shot put - discus - and bronze in the high jump - unheard of !
it will never happen again
0:58 *YEET*
the golden age of doping era, though today its kinda the same at least in distance running
Werner Günther is the G.O.A.T.
Maravillosa gracias por los subtítulos
Impressive
We shouldn't be celebrating drug cheats
@Chris D'oulmeth well I know for a fact that not every record breaking athlete dopes. Where there is money there is doping but where the sport still has a level of amateurism to it you wont find anywhere as many cheats
When he threw the dog I busted out laughing!
It was great fun, I'd do it again :-)
Timmermann's 22.47m was not a WR.
Cool video!
Ulf Timmermannn...É O MELHOR.
whose video is this?
Why was the stadium so unattended in Seoul?
they are at the kpop concert!
They held a lot of events in the morning Seoul time so they could be shown prime-time live in the USA since NBC was paying the bulk of the TV rights.
Interesting to see the American was the only one to use the spinning technique which is what everyone uses today.
Women still use the glide at least some do.
Why does the Olympic channel even make a vid about that. Everybody knows that Barnes, Timmermann, Günthör and probably the rest of the field were doped.
@@bfc3057 I just wrote „probably“, because most of them were in fact not tested positive.
1.45s Song pls?
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1:44
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More sport, less dumb animations
oh very good
Can't those judges get hit by the ball?
Never heard of a shot put incident, but witnessed a discus knocking out a judge, a hammer hitting the guy from the back(kidney removed the following day) and there is a video on YT showing javeling hitting a jumper tip first.
Always sad to see so much potassium go to waste.
now american sport
grenade put
same as shot put but with a grenade
Was there Covid going on then too?...there's hardly anyone in the stands.
has anyone accidentally hit one of those men at the end?
AlmaDiaoh946 yes, with a discus. I felt bad but it was a good throw. Ive also hit a truck
I haven’t, but I’ve had a few close calls. I’ve also seen someone hit a goose in midair
One day I’ll find me a shot put woman who can throw me just as far and possibly lift me overhead and crush me in between her biceps
You couldn't even handle if a woman farted
Aye man, im here, i can crush you😂😂
Firstly I could win the women, and I am only 14
Secondly, the women were fouling
Never trust a Bonds lol
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Barnes 23.12 is still the world Record 30 years later....
Not anymore.😆😆😆
This is funny how they reduced the ball weight instead of the distance for women shot put "EQUALITY"
there is no way to reduce the 'distance' in shotput. the 'distance' is the ground - its how they measure who throws the farthest, that's it. They reduce the weight in the shotput because it's a physiological fact that men have more upper body strength than women. Women can get more of an arc if the weight is lowered, which allows for better technique. Also, 16 lbs is hard to mold into a shotput small enough for women to grasp. Women's hands are also, again on the hole, smaller than men's so there's less of a grip to encapsulate the weight, so again, there must be modifications. Sure, women CAN throw the men's shotput (I have), especially at the Olympic level but, on the hole, it doesn't lend itself very well for good technique (or distance).
@@sparkreno19 I'm talking about the size of the ball
Wag. Randy was Randy
Buck Barnes??????
Nice
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I throw 12m
Wow she threw 13.75m with a 4kg shot put. I am 16 and a GUY and my PB is only 13.60m with a 4kg. Wow
Cameron Gray woman up weakling
Big Shaq is that you?
Man's not narratin'.
May have been a great watch at the time and these guys surely are top athletes in their field but, like most comments here already pointed out: Barnes and Timmermann at least are also well documented dopers. So save your plaudits.
76 olympics, east german swim team. That was the most blantant cheating.
East German...God knows what steroids he used
FilipposGR Funny how you dont say this about randy barns
Haha yeah and Americans never cheat it's a known fact (sarcasm...).
Jean-Guillaume ESPAÑA thank you
And you think the septics aren't on it too? The USA are one of the worst dopers in sport. US cycling team in 84 were blood doping.
Randy Barnes stated that he took drugs for his whole career. The East Germans had a doping program too as well as the soviets. And please don't think that the Americans or anybody didn't take drugs. Look at Griffith-Joyner or Carl Lewis. Just a stupid comment. It was a horrible time in sports between the 50's until like 2010, when the performances slowly got a little bit worse. Almost every athlete doped and many died (Tom Simpson, Joyner,...) or suffered from cancer.
3:15 hmmmmm. I hear Grande Sonata Pathetique by Beethoven
How did you manage to bring women into this?
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I mising a East german athetas, the best!!
Why make men and women’s shot put balls different weights, can’t women just throw the same one less far?
Inqu'aanate no, women and men have anthropological differences, the men's shot put would be too big and thick for the average woman. Same reason the Olympic bars in weightlifting are thinner, shorter and 5kg lighter for women than they are for the men.
Alex Karakatsanis firstly, you clearly don’t know what anthropological means, morphological is the correct word for the sentence.
Wether or not you injure yourself is all to do with technique, as someone who has done shot put before, they could just throw it less far.
The bar being narrower does make sense because women usually have smaller hands but it should not weigh less, they could just lift less weight.
Inqu'aanate you are right thats the word I was going for. And I'm not sure it has to do with injury, it has to do with equalizing the conditions and comfort of throwing the shot put. As you said, smaller hands so they naturally need a smaller ball. And as for the weights, they lift way less weight even with the 15 kg bar but it's hard to make a bar smaller and thinner without decreasing the weight of it perhaps. (Maybe the same with the shot put?)
Alex Karakatsanis I’d use a denser material, as metals go, iron is pretty middling, there’s plenty denser.
Inqu'aanate then they just do it to have an "even playing field" in terms of results and numbers. Shot put records are similar between men and women but ofcourse that's only possible with different weighted balls
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DDR = DOPE.
who is free from guilt cast the first stone.Randy Barnes was later banned for life for repeated doping. ;)
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Lol I can throw farther than that French girl am I’m only 15. I mean it’s just weird to think about
Just saying that the chances are your throwing less weight than her
oli bouch no she used a 4kg I used a 4kg.
I don't know why they have men's and women's teams. They should mix them. Maybe some sports you have no women, maybe some sports you have majority women.
Because no matter how much we all love equality, men and women ARE different. Mainly because of the difference between testosterone and estrogen. If the chemicals we're switched in then the physical dominance will likely switch as well.
Because men are stronger, it’s simply not fair
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4:03 thats a Women ? i bet that not xD sorry i think they cheated
DOPER shatters Olympic Record ...