You know what I feel would be cool to see animations? Some of the older, original Big Finish audio dramas. I've been going through them by release recently, and I've been able to visualize them as either 2d or 3d animations. I feel like if they went with some of the older ones, like The Fearmonger or The Apocalypse Element or The Holy Terror, they'd be really cool. Holy Terror especially, since it's main companion is Frobeshire
Excellent review. Been waiting for a video on the 2. The underwater menace will always hold a special feeling as it was the comeback release after what I was also sure would be a lengthy gap. However that went a bit too far on the animation front with changes and pats lines being given to others is really careless. Nonetheless happy to have a very good recon of it, much more enjoyable. Toymaker, I absolutely loved. The changes worked for me and bettered my enjoyment of it. Don't want to see 3d for any other story though as like you've said it probably wouldn't work as well for anything else. Delighted the range is back. Think smugglers is likely to be next although I really want the space pirates, would vastly benefit from visuals. Look forward to the next video, all the best!
space pirates would be huge for me. its a criminally underrated story and had no telesnaps, it desperately needs some form of visuals back. The Massacre and The Space Pirates are both my most wanted animations and my most wanted missing story recoveries
@@TediousMilkshake No reconstructions are watchable. If I want to just listen to an episode, then I’ll just listen to it. Having random pictures on the screen makes it harder not easier.
I get redesigning things in a completely missing or mostly missing story (though I'd still prefer it being very accurate), but redesigning most of the characters and locations in a story, where half of the episodes exist seems like a very strange decision to me.
Straight up it feels like the BBC is trying to bury the surviving material rather than embrace it, they treat it as a bonus feature rather than the main focus these days and its honestly tragic
I was disappointed with the visual changes in The Underwater Menace, especially the fish people. But I thought the 3D color animation of The Celestial Toymaker made it much more interesting because, let's face it, the story plods a bit. I wouldn't want this style for every reanimation, but it really worked for this story.
now im just imagining we get two more animations within a year of this video, meaning a part 3. as for what those are? i would like to see Season 3 filled out more. The Massacre and The Savages would be especially nice. but if any other season? give me The Wheel In Space and The Space Pirates to clear both seasons 5 and 6 for a "complete" bluray release in one swoop
I felt like the animation errors in The Underwater Menace were just disappointing to me. I felt something was lost in the animated remakes of Episodes 2 & 3, and I really dislike the new character designs. If you only have one surviving episode, I’m more lenient with changes. That’s why the changes made to The Abominable Snowmen don’t bother me too badly. But when half the material exists, you should probably keep the original designs to an extent.
Crusade seems to be one of those stories that might be animated last, if it ever is. I remember some article with Charles Norton mentioning that some of the historical episodes like Marco Polo, The Crusade and The Massacre were less likely to be animated because of things like the number of characters/extras and clothing changes. Though I’m pretty sure that article was made around the release of The Macra Terror, so maybe the situation has changed since then. I wonder if The Collection set of Season 2 may also play a part in this, since the animation teams may feel less inclined to animate the story if it’s already been released with reconstructions included on the Season 2 Blu Ray set.
I absolutely loved the Celestial Toymaker animation. This is from someone who thought Web of Fear animation was an absolute embarassment. It looked gorgeous, most animations looked fine, servicable. But not like an incredible work within itself like Toymaker, which brought it from the worst of the 1st Doctor to 17/29 (which is obviously not a top spot, but much higher then I would expect it to be if the actual episodes survive, as the only remaining one was no where near as interesting as the animation. It truly brought life to this story, and I hope they are the go to studio for Dr. Who animations from now on, I am not a fan of the Wheel in Space, but I think they would be great for that story, and the Smugglers (and ideally the Dalek's Master Plan, but fair enough if a story of that size would be not seen as viable).
Really? With the budgets these Dr. Who animations have had (IOW, they actually HAD budgets), why do they all look like CRAP? I look at these, comparing them to "Memories of Phantasm" ( ruclips.net/video/66wSmZAYddI/видео.html ) and I just have to wonder how so-called "professional" animated recreations can look like shit when compared to a **fan production** based off the Touhou Project video games?
Whisper it quietly, but.... I think The Celestial Toymaker animation is the first re-animated Who that improves on what the original TV version must have been like. Perhaps a cutdown version of this would even play well to today's kids who only know the modern program?
You know what I feel would be cool to see animations? Some of the older, original Big Finish audio dramas. I've been going through them by release recently, and I've been able to visualize them as either 2d or 3d animations. I feel like if they went with some of the older ones, like The Fearmonger or The Apocalypse Element or The Holy Terror, they'd be really cool.
Holy Terror especially, since it's main companion is Frobeshire
Excellent review. Been waiting for a video on the 2.
The underwater menace will always hold a special feeling as it was the comeback release after what I was also sure would be a lengthy gap. However that went a bit too far on the animation front with changes and pats lines being given to others is really careless. Nonetheless happy to have a very good recon of it, much more enjoyable. Toymaker, I absolutely loved. The changes worked for me and bettered my enjoyment of it. Don't want to see 3d for any other story though as like you've said it probably wouldn't work as well for anything else. Delighted the range is back.
Think smugglers is likely to be next although I really want the space pirates, would vastly benefit from visuals.
Look forward to the next video, all the best!
space pirates would be huge for me. its a criminally underrated story and had no telesnaps, it desperately needs some form of visuals back. The Massacre and The Space Pirates are both my most wanted animations and my most wanted missing story recoveries
11:42 That caught me off guard LOL
Great overview
1:04 I disagree. _The Web of Fear_ had five episodes in a watchable state, which is not six.
Episode three's recon was well-made and is considered watchable by most.
@@TediousMilkshake No reconstructions are watchable. If I want to just listen to an episode, then I’ll just listen to it. Having random pictures on the screen makes it harder not easier.
where is the next aniamtion its been nealry 6 months why the silence again
I get redesigning things in a completely missing or mostly missing story (though I'd still prefer it being very accurate), but redesigning most of the characters and locations in a story, where half of the episodes exist seems like a very strange decision to me.
Straight up it feels like the BBC is trying to bury the surviving material rather than embrace it, they treat it as a bonus feature rather than the main focus these days and its honestly tragic
Why does the doll behind Dodo at 10:32 look like Jodie Whittaker
I was disappointed with the visual changes in The Underwater Menace, especially the fish people. But I thought the 3D color animation of The Celestial Toymaker made it much more interesting because, let's face it, the story plods a bit. I wouldn't want this style for every reanimation, but it really worked for this story.
While Better than The Web Of Fear Animation, The Celestial Toymaker 2024 is Still Terrible.
Again, completely agree with you that the animations should be watchable with the surviving episodes. It's quite confusing otherwise.
now im just imagining we get two more animations within a year of this video, meaning a part 3. as for what those are? i would like to see Season 3 filled out more. The Massacre and The Savages would be especially nice. but if any other season? give me The Wheel In Space and The Space Pirates to clear both seasons 5 and 6 for a "complete" bluray release in one swoop
I felt like the animation errors in The Underwater Menace were just disappointing to me. I felt something was lost in the animated remakes of Episodes 2 & 3, and I really dislike the new character designs. If you only have one surviving episode, I’m more lenient with changes. That’s why the changes made to The Abominable Snowmen don’t bother me too badly. But when half the material exists, you should probably keep the original designs to an extent.
Completely agree. If the Crusade is eventually animated, I want it to be seamless
@@Bellal.MrSin.2004 agreed. Especially for a historical like that.
Crusade seems to be one of those stories that might be animated last, if it ever is. I remember some article with Charles Norton mentioning that some of the historical episodes like Marco Polo, The Crusade and The Massacre were less likely to be animated because of things like the number of characters/extras and clothing changes. Though I’m pretty sure that article was made around the release of The Macra Terror, so maybe the situation has changed since then. I wonder if The Collection set of Season 2 may also play a part in this, since the animation teams may feel less inclined to animate the story if it’s already been released with reconstructions included on the Season 2 Blu Ray set.
@@1978hoops I imagine for continuity purposes we will get those ones animated at some point. Just aren’t the highest on the priority list, I imagine.
I absolutely loved the Celestial Toymaker animation. This is from someone who thought Web of Fear animation was an absolute embarassment.
It looked gorgeous, most animations looked fine, servicable. But not like an incredible work within itself like Toymaker, which brought it from the worst of the 1st Doctor to 17/29 (which is obviously not a top spot, but much higher then I would expect it to be if the actual episodes survive, as the only remaining one was no where near as interesting as the animation. It truly brought life to this story, and I hope they are the go to studio for Dr. Who animations from now on, I am not a fan of the Wheel in Space, but I think they would be great for that story, and the Smugglers (and ideally the Dalek's Master Plan, but fair enough if a story of that size would be not seen as viable).
Really? With the budgets these Dr. Who animations have had (IOW, they actually HAD budgets), why do they all look like CRAP? I look at these, comparing them to "Memories of Phantasm" ( ruclips.net/video/66wSmZAYddI/видео.html ) and I just have to wonder how so-called "professional" animated recreations can look like shit when compared to a **fan production** based off the Touhou Project video games?
Whisper it quietly, but.... I think The Celestial Toymaker animation is the first re-animated Who that improves on what the original TV version must have been like. Perhaps a cutdown version of this would even play well to today's kids who only know the modern program?