Really good watch Dado. Inspiring me to VESC my Pint in the future. I always enjoy watching squirrelly setups. Makes it look like you're putting in work. Also, all your "oh shit" commentary is hilarious!
Nice commentary and variety of shots! Your best vid to date 🤟🏻 And you'll love that Enduro pint tire, so stable yet carvy! Oh and that's dope u can have it go into stand mode after riding, would be fun when you run into a store real quick and leave it at front 🤣
I had a 60v trampa Vesc 6. I liked it! Fit good in the pint housings. Not having Pull down resistors was a pain. But I think with my current engagement system I might not even need pull down resistors.
@@BillyShredder as far as I understand the 60V limit is a pretty hard limit, people have gotten away with 13s batteries, but 15s should pretty easily kill it because the stock Pint pack will easily exceed 65V on regen and even more when doing tricks like slides and such. Supposedly even 61V is enough to kill the VESC 6
Normally closed 12mm switches are quite common, but not with LED light. However, since you can program an automatic power down after x minutes, the switch is only needed for the wakeup functionality and a light is not really required.
Amazing work! And what about the speed? Would be interesting to see what happenes at the usual pushback speed. I am really close to vesc my Pint X as well.
@@surfdado pleeeease run a speed test 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I don’t suggest to push the limit, just check when the Captain Morgan arrives. Early pushback is the biggest pain with the Pint.
If you don't care about connectors and waterproofing then you can fit most VESCs. But why VESC 6? Will you make a custom battery? Why not 6-75 and reuse the XR/Plus battery?
@@surfdado no custom battery . Basic build. I find 84V setups too heavy for techy trails, like GT. And I have a spare xr to vesc, the denim one you may have seen. Cheap and easy! The vesc 6s are the same size, it was just a size test today, it looked doable to me. For many in our community, these things are out of reach unless they are good value, so a conversion will be what most new vesc adopters will do in uk, if at all
Good afternoon. I watched your video, you can tell me in more detail or show the circuit how to connect the foot sensors and what kind of resistor is needed
I have been waiting for work (trampa) to get the 6 75 in stock for my first vesc swap. Can I ask what pull down resistor values you used? Did you find a suitable momentary switch for this vesc? Is there anything new or not in the video you can add, since the time of making this video? Thanks always for your work to help the community, we appreciate you
I used 1kOhm but anything up to 10kOhm will work. I did find an NC momentary switch so I now benefit from auto-shutdown which is really nice. Also the BKB Voyager remote works nicely alongside my BLE module
@surfdado will you be releasing a document with a setup guide like you made for the XR conversion going over wiring, soldering and jst connectors as far as wiring the VESC to as much stock components as possible? I think the community would be very grateful for it.
I’m not sure which document you’re referring to for the XR, but either way all the documents you need are already on the Vescify Discord server. That’s what I used to get my conversion done
Love this! Thanks for all the infotainment you have put out. Can I ask if a stock controller case mod is possible to fit a trampa vesc? To start I will use stock battery / bms, and soon a UK cbxr clone instead. Any particular trampa vesc you can recommend please? And anything additional I may need. If you wouldn't mind. I started work at Trampa recently so hoping to connect with a couple of faces who they know and see what's up
congrats on your new job! Now, this is an XR question, right? The XR or Plus controller box doesn't have enough space for the Trampa VESCs but if you remove the handle then it will fit easily. Or 3D printing. Search "flowglider" on thingiverse to find 3D models
@@surfdado just checking haha. Not paid too much attention while the project matured tbh, but my new work circumstances mean learning stuff is useful suddenly! Once again, thanks for sharing your knowledge to the community
The pulldown should be placed as close as possible to the JST pin on the VESC controller. Reason: when the cable brakes it should pull down the signal to GND. We can design a little pull down pcb with ease.
if you increased the battery size to 16s as just stated was possible in the beginning of the video, how would that increase the range? and the torque?? obsessed with my pintx just wish it has a little more range. if it could go 25 miles and had XR style pushback, I would never need to buy another wheel ever again.
As part of this transition from FM based OW to VESC based OW think about, at some point, adding a feature to bleed off charge during full charge downhill runs.
You don't need to replace the button. You just need to use binary logic to invert the value. There are lots of ways to do this. I have ideas, but they are probably outdated. If you can't find a younger EE to propose a circuit for you, I'll tell you how I would do it. Let me know what you think. ☮️❤️🌈
@@surfdado what ever voltage the VESC's operating voltage is set to (likely 5v or 3.3v) should work. One way to do it would be to have a 5 pin relay. 2 pins receive the activation current. The 3 other pins toggle the center between the Normally Open and Normally Closed. But, since the VESC won't be powered on to activate the relay... Yeah, it might need a dedicated voltage regulator. This is tough. A real EE may have a better solution.
its so hard to watch anyone record while riding..esp when they as squirrely as this dude- last month I had my first nose dive ever after 200 miles without ever doing so... ate the pavement @ 13mph..the only protective gear I was wearing was gloves and pants only because it was night and a little chilly, the pants didn't do much both my knees got ate up, luckily the gloves saved my hands which i can only imagine what they would have look like had i not wore them.., gashed my eyebrow had to stitch it up 5times and my chin right/front side got rashed pretty bad...got it on camera tho - which after you watch me eat it all you see is trees and sky going by as you hear the fading sounds of me moaning and swearing for a good 4-5 secs awhile my phone flew/slid a good 25-30yds down the street... I watched it once and refuse to watch it again. Im designing/testing my own device to put on the front to prevent it from happening again. yes i know these exist but i think I can do better and make one much more compact. I like my pint but wish id bought a GT my feet are too bigand I have to have them placed in one exact spot or im not comfortable on it
Really good watch Dado. Inspiring me to VESC my Pint in the future. I always enjoy watching squirrelly setups. Makes it look like you're putting in work. Also, all your "oh shit" commentary is hilarious!
Haha thanks Jed
Great work the pint is twitchy off-road , its good to see just what is possible for our One wheels in the future.
Your a great pioneer in this stuff, you're rambling on about things is how we're going to learn. Music was a bit much in the beginning
Honestly this was great video! One of your best I found it the most entertaining
Haha thanks buddy, I'm trying hard to make my videos less boring :)
Nice commentary and variety of shots! Your best vid to date 🤟🏻 And you'll love that Enduro pint tire, so stable yet carvy! Oh and that's dope u can have it go into stand mode after riding, would be fun when you run into a store real quick and leave it at front 🤣
"the stock pint tire makes it challenging" haha that's the fun of it!
I got mine done today. Thanks much for your help though this video!!!
Oh hell, flywheel mode! Thats so cool!
You're amazing bro! 🤯🤯🤯 Future is bright!
I had a 60v trampa Vesc 6. I liked it! Fit good in the pint housings. Not having Pull down resistors was a pain. But I think with my current engagement system I might not even need pull down resistors.
Hard to imagine any scenario where you don’t need pull down resistors. High chance of ghosting. Also what battery did you use with the VESC 6?
@@surfdado stock pint battery.
@@BillyShredder oh wow that’s crazy, how long did it last??
@@surfdado well I didn’t ride it much. Messed up the sensor I had with pull down resistors built in. So couldn’t really get a set up after that.
@@BillyShredder as far as I understand the 60V limit is a pretty hard limit, people have gotten away with 13s batteries, but 15s should pretty easily kill it because the stock Pint pack will easily exceed 65V on regen and even more when doing tricks like slides and such. Supposedly even 61V is enough to kill the VESC 6
Normally closed 12mm switches are quite common, but not with LED light. However, since you can program an automatic power down after x minutes, the switch is only needed for the wakeup functionality and a light is not really required.
I can’t wait to see mods done like this but the the Onewheel GT with all of its factory lock outs!!
send me your GT and I'll do it ;) None of the lockouts are an issue for VESCing it
Another great tribute to the community.
Can this bms mod work for the lil focer 3.1 and then a 4209 BMS
Amazing work!
And what about the speed? Would be interesting to see what happenes at the usual pushback speed. I am really close to vesc my Pint X as well.
haven't done a proper speed test yet, but on the last group ride the PintX was keeping up with XRs and GTs without ever dealing with pushback
@@surfdado pleeeease run a speed test 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I don’t suggest to push the limit, just check when the Captain Morgan arrives. Early pushback is the biggest pain with the Pint.
@@ArtjomsSmirnovs I just hit 25MPH on my VESC PX (Ubox)
We discovered today at work at Trampa that the vesc 6 fits the stock controller case bolted to the lid. Happy days
If you don't care about connectors and waterproofing then you can fit most VESCs. But why VESC 6? Will you make a custom battery? Why not 6-75 and reuse the XR/Plus battery?
@@surfdado no custom battery . Basic build. I find 84V setups too heavy for techy trails, like GT. And I have a spare xr to vesc, the denim one you may have seen. Cheap and easy! The vesc 6s are the same size, it was just a size test today, it looked doable to me. For many in our community, these things are out of reach unless they are good value, so a conversion will be what most new vesc adopters will do in uk, if at all
@@redboyjan vesc6 cannot handle a basic XR battery - you need a 6-75
@@surfdado yes I know. I should be clearer always. Same physical size for sizing
Good afternoon. I watched your video, you can tell me in more detail or show the circuit how to connect the foot sensors and what kind of resistor is needed
@@Vector-lo9gx here’s where you go to ask this question: discord.gg/PnFHVG8QZT
I have been waiting for work (trampa) to get the 6 75 in stock for my first vesc swap. Can I ask what pull down resistor values you used? Did you find a suitable momentary switch for this vesc? Is there anything new or not in the video you can add, since the time of making this video? Thanks always for your work to help the community, we appreciate you
I used 1kOhm but anything up to 10kOhm will work. I did find an NC momentary switch so I now benefit from auto-shutdown which is really nice. Also the BKB Voyager remote works nicely alongside my BLE module
@@surfdado thank you much! I have that remote too!
Flywheel mode so damn cool 😎
I noticed your battery's negative lead looks like it has something on it, did you have to reinforce it?
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@@surfdado that happened to my PX too :(
So is the lil focer or the trampa the best bet for pint assembly and vesc tool compatible
@surfdado will you be releasing a document with a setup guide like you made for the XR conversion going over wiring, soldering and jst connectors as far as wiring the VESC to as much stock components as possible? I think the community would be very grateful for it.
I’m not sure which document you’re referring to for the XR, but either way all the documents you need are already on the Vescify Discord server. That’s what I used to get my conversion done
@@surfdado vescify?
@@autolex1675 discord.gg/2F4cf4f4
What is the pole count in the pint motor?
30, same as all other Onewheel motors currently in use
Love this! Thanks for all the infotainment you have put out. Can I ask if a stock controller case mod is possible to fit a trampa vesc? To start I will use stock battery / bms, and soon a UK cbxr clone instead. Any particular trampa vesc you can recommend please? And anything additional I may need. If you wouldn't mind. I started work at Trampa recently so hoping to connect with a couple of faces who they know and see what's up
congrats on your new job! Now, this is an XR question, right? The XR or Plus controller box doesn't have enough space for the Trampa VESCs but if you remove the handle then it will fit easily. Or 3D printing. Search "flowglider" on thingiverse to find 3D models
@@surfdado thanks. XR yeah
@@surfdado would the 6 75 work?
@@redboyjan wdym? Of course it would, that's what I used in the video you commented on
@@surfdado just checking haha. Not paid too much attention while the project matured tbh, but my new work circumstances mean learning stuff is useful suddenly! Once again, thanks for sharing your knowledge to the community
Can you tell me what resistor you used?
@@Vector-lo9gx 10kOhm but 1k works too
Wow that's amazing bro...did you ever have time for update on this project and will you sell your diy boards?
I have 2 broken pint x could you build or help me build them? Thanks!
sorry, I can't but if you join the Vescify Discord you will find everything you need to do the conversion yourself: discord.gg/6vFHJXMB
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is it true the red wire on the bms and battery is negatively charged?
not true - they do stick to norms on wire colors, but instead their XT60s are reversed inside the battery compartment
The pulldown should be placed as close as possible to the JST pin on the VESC controller. Reason: when the cable brakes it should pull down the signal to GND. We can design a little pull down pcb with ease.
if you increased the battery size to 16s as just stated was possible in the beginning of the video, how would that increase the range? and the torque?? obsessed with my pintx just wish it has a little more range. if it could go 25 miles and had XR style pushback, I would never need to buy another wheel ever again.
sounds like you want a GT. Going from 15s to 16s gives you 6 percent more range. Torque is the same
@@surfdado ahh ok, so not a substantial increase in range. I like everything about the GT except the size and weight
Will the gt40 work with vesced pint x? I am thinking about that option. As i not always need that range i just have to put on the fender when i do.
@@agyas23 definitely works, VESC doesn’t care. Also no need to worry about incorrect readings in the app.
Will a powerbutton be possible sometime in the future?
A power button is possible now, I got one on my desk, just need to find the time to open up the controller box and install it
What’s the top speed you can get?
I'm not much of a top speed guy but on this weekend's group ride the PintX was keeping up with XRs and GTs without ever dealing with pushback
2:21 Who keeps the envelop that their TFL float plate comes in? Oh wait ... there's one to my right.
Any chance your app will come to Android?
Sorry, I’m afraid that’ll never happen. It would be a complete rewrite
@@surfdado 🥲 ouch
Ill get a vesc and ios phone asap yessss
👍🏾🙏🏾
Whisper wide is great on the PintX, and only weighs 1.0kg
As part of this transition from FM based OW to VESC based OW think about, at some point, adding a feature to bleed off charge during full charge downhill runs.
That kind of feature requires a giant chunk of hardware, wouldn’t be practical for such a compact vehicle
Yeah the stock tire is squirrelly but I needed it squirrlier lol
what is this magic at the end!?!?
You don't need to replace the button. You just need to use binary logic to invert the value. There are lots of ways to do this. I have ideas, but they are probably outdated. If you can't find a younger EE to propose a circuit for you, I'll tell you how I would do it. Let me know what you think. ☮️❤️🌈
Whatever circuit you have in mind wouldn’t it need to be powered somehow?
@@surfdado what ever voltage the VESC's operating voltage is set to (likely 5v or 3.3v) should work. One way to do it would be to have a 5 pin relay. 2 pins receive the activation current. The 3 other pins toggle the center between the Normally Open and Normally Closed. But, since the VESC won't be powered on to activate the relay... Yeah, it might need a dedicated voltage regulator. This is tough. A real EE may have a better solution.
@@surfdado I suspect someone will have a NE555 IC solution or use a voltage regulator and a PNP transistor.
its so hard to watch anyone record while riding..esp when they as squirrely as this dude- last month I had my first nose dive ever after 200 miles without ever doing so... ate the pavement @ 13mph..the only protective gear I was wearing was gloves and pants only because it was night and a little chilly, the pants didn't do much both my knees got ate up, luckily the gloves saved my hands which i can only imagine what they would have look like had i not wore them.., gashed my eyebrow had to stitch it up 5times and my chin right/front side got rashed pretty bad...got it on camera tho - which after you watch me eat it all you see is trees and sky going by as you hear the fading sounds of me moaning and swearing for a good 4-5 secs awhile my phone flew/slid a good 25-30yds down the street... I watched it once and refuse to watch it again. Im designing/testing my own device to put on the front to prevent it from happening again. yes i know these exist but i think I can do better and make one much more compact. I like my pint but wish id bought a GT my feet are too bigand I have to have them placed in one exact spot or im not comfortable on it