Mysteries in my Victorian Family Photos: How to Date Fashion History

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  • @NicoleRudolph
    @NicoleRudolph  2 года назад +37

    Check out MyHeritage and start discovering today! bit.ly/NicoleRudolph_MH

    • @sallyk7363
      @sallyk7363 2 года назад

      Those graduation outfits do not look like they're from 1919s they would have evolved into more Sleek Lines by then with shorter (ankle length) skirts and without the big sleeves and the big skirts it looks more like the Styles worn between 1899 and 1909

  • @CraftQueenJr
    @CraftQueenJr 2 года назад +496

    I think the matching dresses with best friend thing is about as peak 12-14 age range as it’s actually possible to get.

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +50

      People have really always been people, huh

    • @jessiebrown6084
      @jessiebrown6084 2 года назад +50

      Junior high school, there was always the discussion at lunch as to what were you going to wear the next day, so friend groups would all show up in jeans, or all show up in dresses, or a certain color.

    • @WasabiWitch
      @WasabiWitch 2 года назад +15

      It's so dang cute though

    • @acecat2798
      @acecat2798 2 года назад +24

      It's peak 12-14 year old + the influence of late 19th century romantic friendship being all about devotion between girls. It's freaking adorable.

    • @acelibrarian
      @acelibrarian 2 года назад +24

      TBH I was watching this and thinking my best friend and I (currently 41 and 39 years, respectively) should do a matchy pic, maybe for my 40th. We've been friends since I was 13 and I don't think we ever did one.

  • @kimberlynnwomack4262
    @kimberlynnwomack4262 2 года назад +78

    “This is fashion. She has made choices. And they are aggressive choices” I LOVE this!

  • @mothiestman4995
    @mothiestman4995 2 года назад +190

    Edith always looks so incredibly horrified by whatever she's looking at. I love it.

  • @roweng.4245
    @roweng.4245 Год назад +7

    Back in the very early 70s, I was visiting my grandmother (born in 1897) and her surviving older sister (born in 1891?), and I extracted from the tops and bottoms of closets boxes and boxes of photographs - tintypes, collotypes, cabinet cards, early b&w photos, mid-century color photos. . . plonked myself down on the rug in front of their chairs and said, "who are these people?" And wrote on the backs everything they told me. I am still amazed that as a teen, I had the forethought to do this.

  • @TheGFeather
    @TheGFeather 2 года назад +258

    The thing I think we forget when looking at family histories is that our families were every bit as messy and complicated as they are now, it was just a bit less out in the open than it is now. I remember discovering that my eldest uncle was a war baby and only a half sibling and being absolutely floored. Looking back a bit farther, there are plenty of children and marriages that don't line up, second wives mistaken for first wives because of similar names or appearances, and cousins incorporated into households as siblings. Blended families were really common when mortality was higher and options for getting by more limited. Tidy branches of family trees are unusual.
    Wonderful photos and interesting stories. It looks like you had some really characters in your family tree.

  • @julievitous8069
    @julievitous8069 2 года назад +214

    I inherited all of my Grandmother and Great Grandmother's photos. Once I got them scanned to digital, we had several family get togethers where we played 'Name that Richardson'.
    On of the big lessons I learned was, some of the biggest clues are in the background. My uncle was able to date some photos based on farm outbuildings - when they were built or removed - and automobiles. One fairly generic picture of a flower girl at a wedding was identified by the bridesmaid in the background.
    It is a fun process of detective work.

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 2 года назад +3

      Do you happen to have a
      William Carol
      Alexander Elijah
      James Alexander or
      Alexander Buchanan
      Among those? If so we might be related.

    • @msandigail
      @msandigail 2 года назад +3

      That is so neat!! And a great tip for me going through family photos!

    • @annbrookens945
      @annbrookens945 2 года назад +4

      This sounds like a great idea for a family get-together!

    • @julievitous8069
      @julievitous8069 2 года назад +14

      @@annbrookens945 it helps to have someone in the family hook a laptop up to the TV so you can run thru the digital images as a group.
      I do not recommend trying to go thru to many pictures at one time. An hour or two can be enough and get quite a bit accomplished.
      Also, we started recording the sessions because of the stories that were coming back to older family members based on photos. Don't rush the process. Let the stories come.

    • @theab3957
      @theab3957 2 года назад

      Lucky you. I guess your family didn't come from a war torn country.

  • @vadalia3860
    @vadalia3860 2 года назад +98

    Heck yeah, very proud of Daisy & her bold teenage fashion choices! Something about the look on her face, at least to me, reads "Yeah, my parents didn't want me to wear X, Y, or Z in this picture but I'm still gonna!" People really have just always been people.

    • @inr63
      @inr63 Месяц назад +1

      I saw that look in her eye too - playful yet mischievous; a staple of youth.

  • @beefarren
    @beefarren 2 года назад +198

    As someone whose childhood best friend is now my sister-in-law, that discovery of the BFF dresses hit me pretty hard. I have a bunch of pictures of my great-grandmother with her sister-in-law from throughout their lives - I might have to go digging and see if that story repeated itself in my family history too!

    • @inr63
      @inr63 Месяц назад

      That’s so cool - you both should get custom, matching dresses made!

  • @xnapalmxmorningx
    @xnapalmxmorningx 2 года назад +143

    The big question is what are future historians / descendents going to think about the mall glamorshots of the 80's and 90's.

    • @Siansonea
      @Siansonea 2 года назад +17

      I mean, they're already a punchline. "Mall hair" of the 80s is the subject of many a meme. And Glamour Shots were always a bit cringe, even at the time. I was never tempted to do that, I always thought it was a tacky concept.

    • @elisabethmontegna5412
      @elisabethmontegna5412 2 года назад +27

      “Glamorshots” have been around for quite sometime (even if they were called something else). I have a rather fabulous headshot photo of my grandma from around 1950 looking very elegant and glamorous wearing pearls and (I thought) an off the shoulder black dress. I asked about it once and she told me her friends thought she was a bit scandalous for having the photo taken because it was well-known at the time that that style of photo was actually taken by draping black fabric around your shoulders (no shirt or even a bra or anything underneath) and the studio provided the jewelry. So, it was a 1950s glamorshots. It wouldn’t surprise me if there weren’t similar types of photos (glam photos taken with borrowed accessories or clothes) in earlier decades as well.

    • @elfieblue3175
      @elfieblue3175 2 года назад +17

      I like to think about the "Old Wild West" portraits taken in amusement parks and at carnivals. We're talking tie-at-the-back costumes and cheap props. Or themed tourist costume portraits (my grandparents had a family portrait taken in "traditional" Dutch costume; 40 years later, my mother *required* us to do the same at the same tourist stop).

    • @EDDIELANE
      @EDDIELANE Месяц назад

      Hahaha- but why did they pop their collars so much??

  • @carlymizzou
    @carlymizzou 2 года назад +18

    OMG the marrying your bro/sister in law when they came to help "keep house" after a spouse died threw me off so much. Completely had to start my family history over after that realization. Also didn't help that my great great great grandfather was named "Beverly" who married "Cecil" and 2 years later, about 45 days after she died, married her older sister "Mary" who then had a son named Cecil with him, then after Beverly died she married someone else and I ended up with a 30 year span of like all these Cecil's with different last names and genders I couldn't sort out.

    • @KOKO-uu7yd
      @KOKO-uu7yd Месяц назад

      Sounds like a Muppet Show skit tbh - delightful and messy! 😆

  • @robintheparttimesewer6798
    @robintheparttimesewer6798 2 года назад +81

    That is such a lovely video. It’s so important to remember the past and keep the history alive.
    My grandmother was born in 1910 to her father’s second wife. When his first wife passed his widowed sister and her son moved in to take care of the kids and house. This really made him think as his sister didn’t have anything. She moved around the family to help out where needed. Anyway he made sure that all of his girls finished school and got a trade which was amazing for the time. My grandmother did secretarial work and moved to the big city. Her wedding was put on hold for the depression as they couldn’t afford to give up her job. Married woman didn’t work for the bank at that time.
    I never meet my great grandfather but I admire his forward thinking and his dedication to making sure his daughters would have a skill to fall back on. The fact that his sister had become the family’s housekeeper and nursemaid must have really weighed on him.

  • @mortuaryartist
    @mortuaryartist 2 года назад +60

    I bought a lovely picture frame many years ago. It had a B&W wedding photo from the 30s. I didn’t have the heart to change it. I don’t know who they were, but has hung on my wall for 20+ years

    • @myladycasagrande863
      @myladycasagrande863 2 года назад +26

      My old roommate likes buying antique photos of strangers; she calls it adopting orphans. :)

  • @simsvictor
    @simsvictor 2 года назад +83

    I found the picture of Eva aging so touching and beautiful. The wedding picture and the later picture of them together is realy moving 💜

  • @woodstock6957
    @woodstock6957 2 года назад +67

    At my grandmas house we were looking through old photos I noticed one photo of a lady who looks Native American asked my mom and she said that is Goldie she is half black and half Native American and I ask her you are half native American and Grandma and she said yes and so are you I was shocked and also happy sadly my uncle couldn’t find the photo when we asked for it so I only saw it once rest in peace Goldie

  • @liznotslow
    @liznotslow 2 года назад +2

    The matching friends makes me think of Anne and Diana of Anne of Green Gables. They never had matching dresses I don’t think? But they would have LOVED to.

  • @lizzaturnbull
    @lizzaturnbull 2 года назад +65

    I absolutely love this! I tried to do my family tree but on one side I could only 3 generations until I came to an abandoned baby found by travelling people, and on the other side my grandmother lost pretty much all photos etc when she escaped Austria as a Jewish woman in 1939

    • @caitlynstarrparrish
      @caitlynstarrparrish 2 года назад +11

      With genealogy reaching the heights it is, you still might be able to find where that abandoned baby came from. Long lost families are finding each other a lot more often now a days.
      But even if that's as far as you get, it's still an amazing story to hold on to. 🖤🖤

    • @laurakondrick1635
      @laurakondrick1635 Год назад +2

      Good reminder. My Czech grandfather came to Minneapolis with no claim to antecedents. Only a rumor that he was dropped off by his "aunt."

    • @mlatham23
      @mlatham23 6 месяцев назад

      This is hard. It might be one of those cases where DNA could help.

  • @erynhofland4744
    @erynhofland4744 2 года назад +17

    I don’t know if anyone else read little house on the prairie when they were little, but I distinctly remember a lot of different descriptions of buying fabric or cutting out a pattern or getting a sewing machine, and they took place around the same time.

  • @mizsherm4352
    @mizsherm4352 2 года назад +3

    I have to thank you for helping me date a photo of a very large group of people standing in front of my great grandfather's newly built store in rural Illinois. This will help immensely when I go to the state capital to do more research.

  • @hanananah
    @hanananah 2 года назад +3

    You're so lucky to have all of those pictures. I've been kicking myself for a decade for not helping my grandfather digitize his collection when I had the chance before his house burned down. He still has an incredibly detailed family tree that is longer than the dining room table when it's unfolded though, goes all the way back to 1690.

  • @AndersWatches
    @AndersWatches 2 года назад +55

    I’m so jealous 😩 I know so very little about my family history. Nobody was a prolific photo taker, it’s like pulling teeth to take them now even.
    I know I’m from working class stock, miners, potters, that sort of stuff. That’s about it. I didn’t even know my great grandmother had an identical twin until after she died and I met her twin at a party lmao.

    • @nelliebly6616
      @nelliebly6616 2 года назад

      😉 Envious not jealous 😎

    • @AndersWatches
      @AndersWatches 2 года назад +4

      @@nelliebly6616 Uh, okay? Do you often go around correcting the vocabulary of strangers?

    • @kaypgirl
      @kaypgirl 2 года назад +1

      Did the sisters just not get along? To be fair I don't think I ever met any of my great-grandparents siblings, even though I know some of them were alive when I knew my great-grandparents.

    • @saraa3418
      @saraa3418 2 года назад +13

      The same thing happened to my mother at her grandmother's funeral! The story goes that Anna and her sister traveled together from Poland to the US, but her sister met and fell in love with someone on the boat and they were married by landfall and her sister and her new husband moved to Chicago while Anna stayed in NYC. I guess they corresponded, but couldn't make it to see each other much at all because bothe families were very poor. My mother says she got the fright of her life showing up for that funeral, because it was her grandmother's funeral, but here was her grandmother!

    • @AndersWatches
      @AndersWatches 2 года назад +5

      @@kaypgirl They got along just fine, it’s just they lived up in Durham and my great great aunt never had reason to come down to Stoke since everybody had moved back up there too. Both the twins are dead now but I think at least one other sister is still going!

  • @kathmorgan3429
    @kathmorgan3429 2 года назад +5

    It's an interesting contrast to my family: my grandmother was born in 1920 in rural england. Her dad was a keen photographer, so we have a lot of photos of her childhood, but the styles she was wearing were positively victorian. We always put it down to being rural and lower income, but perhaps (especially since he did have the camera hobby which suggests some disposable income), we are looking at her grandma's influence on the dated choices!

  • @ragnkja
    @ragnkja 2 года назад +79

    Local fashions in “less fashionable” parts of Europe weren’t simply London or Paris fashion but a few years out of date; I assume it was the same in America.

    • @annaapple7452
      @annaapple7452 2 года назад +17

      Additionally, a lot of farmers had their regionally traditional clothes. Those were not static either, but I don't know to what extent they followed city fashion. There is a yt channel that does stabilized and colorized film from the 1920s and 1930s in (among others) the Netherlands, and it is amazing to see the people in local costumes mix with the city dwellers in everyday life. I have a picture of my g-g-grandmother in such traditional dress, which feels somewhat surreal.

    • @annapruitt5546
      @annapruitt5546 2 года назад

      @@annaapple7452 who is the RUclipsr?

    • @annaapple7452
      @annaapple7452 2 года назад +1

      @@annapruitt5546 it is Rick88888888 There is a cluster of videos from about a year ago with several places like Zeeland, Leeuwarden, Drenthe, Scheveningen, Marken and Urk where people wore folkwear. Keep in mind that the colours are not accurate. Some dresses were really colourfull and others weren't.

    • @mygreenfroggy
      @mygreenfroggy 2 года назад

      It's the same here for sure. I've seen fashions from the east and west coasts, usually very close to English or French styles, usually take a couple of years to catch on further inland. The center states do tend to be more conservative and slower to adopt the crazier, fashion-forward styles even now with instant communication of ideas. Not as being more backwards just less apt to be able to do the extremes of fashion.

  • @katiespalding3729
    @katiespalding3729 2 года назад +9

    Jessie, Marion, Hannah, Richard, Ellen, Linnie ... then Manly and Epaminondas?? Victorians really knew how to name people!

  • @user-mv9tt4st9k
    @user-mv9tt4st9k 2 года назад +2

    I loved this. I have many old card photos of my father's family in a well worn padded album. I was always referred to as the "three generation throwback," because I am darked eyed/haired with with an olive complexion. Until I saw an image of my maternal great-grandmother (same eyes, bone structure, jawline) I had wondered where my dark olive came from. Even in black and white, Grandma Danda was a mirror to me, and my toddler photos looked very like her daughter's. As my grandfather aged, I would often catch him looking intently at me: My mother and I believe that may have been because of my resemblance to his mother. 😉

  • @benneufeld2315
    @benneufeld2315 2 года назад +25

    Hey Nicole, I didn't fully watch this video but I wanted to say that when you put different old photographs into AI colorizers, you can see all sorts of things. Like how they would paint in or scrape of the ink by the waist and neck, you can see totally different colors than the backgrounds. Its so cool to see how they used different techniques in black and white thinking you would never see the paint or scrapes until you colorize the photos!

  • @lucasmcinnis5045
    @lucasmcinnis5045 2 года назад +49

    I'm always surprised by how well-dressed some of my ancestors were despite being rural farmers. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

    • @thomasfoley8287
      @thomasfoley8287 2 года назад +20

      My mom used to say, "just because we were poor, we were clean and never looked like a ragamuffin." Clothes were always neat.

    • @lucasmcinnis5045
      @lucasmcinnis5045 2 года назад +8

      @@thomasfoley8287 I think I've noticed, at least from the photos and stories that survive in my family, appearance usually had something or other to do with infrastructure.
      My family lives in North Carolina, and the farmers that lived in the more developed east look better dressed then the ones that lived out West and up in the mountains of NC.

    • @gauloise6442
      @gauloise6442 2 года назад +11

      Getting your photo taken used to be a very special occasion. People dressed in their "Sunday church clothes" I doubt they dressed that way in daily life.

    • @lucasmcinnis5045
      @lucasmcinnis5045 2 года назад +10

      @@gauloise6442 Not always, I have seen many family photos taken up in the mountains or at farmhouses, the entire family dressed in work clothes and rags, hair undone as if they weren't expecting the picture to be done that day

    • @EXO-L45
      @EXO-L45 2 года назад +1

      @@gauloise6442 the fashions shown in this video were actually for day to day wear.

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 2 года назад +37

    Sometime in the future I would love to see a recreation of one of these dresses (and maybe a lookalike picture?)

    • @honoraweaver788
      @honoraweaver788 2 года назад +6

      I just did this with my daughter and an 1895 picture of my 2nd great-grandmother. I made a dress inspired by the picture and had pictures done in a circa 1903 house that’s a bed and breakfast.

    • @becauseimafan
      @becauseimafan 2 года назад +1

      @@honoraweaver788 That is _adorable_ and I love it!

  • @counter10r
    @counter10r 2 года назад +20

    We have 3 photos of my great-great-grandfather--an ambrotype on glass in his 20s (1850s) and two tintypes where he's older. The interesting thing is none of them are with family members--two are with other (non-family) men--and in examining the third, a tintype, I realized that it was actually half of an image--presumably it was a double portrait that had been cut in half. Wondering if this was a friendly gesture (they went halfsies on a photo?) or if this literally was a split in a relationship. I have asked my mother's cousins if any other photos exist, but no one has come up with any--however, one of my mom's cousins owns this g-g-grandfather's fiddle (his name is on a piece of paper glued to the inside).

  • @izzyhaynes6422
    @izzyhaynes6422 2 года назад +20

    It is really nice that you have away to look back so far! Coming from two generations of displaced families not having more than bare bones oral stories of what little is remembered warms my heart

  • @___LC___
    @___LC___ 2 года назад +3

    An awesome finding in my family photos is images of my Uncle Plenny. Plenny was a formerly escaped slave turned free man who married into the family and was included in family photos, despite his status and fears at the time. Due to the time at which they married, they didn’t have children out of fear, but he was loved by the family. We think his name was actually Plentiful, but we only know the nick name and haven’t found records of him….due to the times it is thought he avoided government censuses.

  • @uleubner
    @uleubner 2 года назад +11

    "You push the button, we do the rest."
    My father worked, from the late 1960s until the 1990s, for Kodak, as a researcher in chemistry, improving films and film processing. If you ever took a picture on Kodak film, or had it developed, during that time, you enjoyed the fruit of his work.
    Thank you for drawing attention to the history of photography.
    It is a pity that chemical photography has pretty much disappeared. I fear for future generations, they won't have pictures of themselves, or their family, because digital is so ephemeral. And much, much lower resolution than what they were working on perfecting when Kodak's research was shut down. (My father had been working on creating film with one-photon resolution. DPI- dots per inch, is crude in comparison.)
    If you care about your family's history, make sure your pictures are hard copies, that your grandkids will be able to see with no technology beyond their own eyeballs. Because even now, people who digitized their pictures a decade or two ago can't necessarily actually see them.

  • @aShadeBolder
    @aShadeBolder 2 года назад +22

    this is fascinating, and it gives me hope that I can fill out some details of who-they-were-as-people IF I can find really old family photos. I don't have grandparents anymore, so everything verbal is from parents, and filtered through the resultant lack of description (even for the relatives they knew, I'll get "yeah, she was a bit weird" or "he was alright" followed by "I don't know, just weird" or "I don't know, that's just how it was" if I ask follow up questions) or lack of curiosity (they didn't ask older relatives very detailed questions, so there is very little they know about relatives they didn't meet).
    I do know that my granddad was a lamplighter in the east end of London, during the period between the phasing out of gas street lamps and people working out that electric street lights could all be turned on by a single switch at a centralised location. his job was to unlock the bottom of each lamppost & switch them on in the evening, then switch them off again in the morning. which is interesting, if only in the sense that I wouldn't know that job existed otherwise.

  • @GoingGreenMom
    @GoingGreenMom 2 года назад +12

    Lol, love that your grandfather loved candid shots. We have loads of pictures from both sides as the pictures from estate sales wound up at Grandma's house on my Mom's side, and my Granddad on my Dad's side got the camera and he and Grandmother did lots of documentation and photo developing when they lived out of the country.

  • @swarmqueenhydok4990
    @swarmqueenhydok4990 2 года назад +3

    One cool thing I hadn't realized that I discovered recently was just how early home video cameras were available. I got to see some casual home videos from my family last summer, lots of college-age guys and their girlfriends hanging out on the beach, boat races, just general silliness... taken by my grandfather's uncle before WWII.

  • @shamancarmichael5305
    @shamancarmichael5305 2 года назад +6

    Seeing the photos colorized just brings them even more to life! What a wonderful video!

  • @aeolia80
    @aeolia80 2 года назад +6

    my mom's mom and her sister-in-law were best friends too before her sister-in-law married her brother, and continued to be all the rest of their lives, even though my grandmother moved to a different State and raised her family in this other State from her hometown, to this day my grndmother's kids and grandkids are closer to the children and grandchildren of this great-aunt than my grandmother's own sister's children. Hahaha, I've kind of always wanted to name a bakery after those 2 women if I ever decided to open one.

  • @Rainbopagn
    @Rainbopagn 2 года назад +1

    “Best friends” being recorded like that is such a precious thing to see.

  • @dariapack8906
    @dariapack8906 2 года назад +2

    I love old photos. My mom when I was 10 or so (she's a portrait artist, mainly uses charcoal) did a piece with all of her grandmothers that she has photographs of, and included a sketch of her mother (my grandmother) from when she just graduated from high school. It's one of her best pieces. She even has each of their names and their birth and death dates on there.

  • @worm193
    @worm193 2 года назад +5

    not sure if you know this but the sites that colourise old photos are just making up the colours not “revealing” what they looked like so it wouldn’t be a very useful tool for working out what old clothes looked like. it’s all guess work. but seeing flesh coloured people in the clothes and the enhance features that make the images sharper could still be really interesting and useful! x

    • @catzkeet4860
      @catzkeet4860 2 года назад +1

      This is true, but, there are other resources than can inform the colouring process, such as textile samples from the period, wallpaper samples ditto. Written descriptions from the period will have colour references in abundance. They may not give the colours of a given garment per se(tho they can) but they will give an idea of the kinds of colours that were popular and possible in the era.

    • @worm193
      @worm193 2 года назад

      @@catzkeet4860 This is a great point and its very true if its a person doing the recoloration but for sites like these it's often a automatic thing (the algorithm can be fed this stuff but I wouldn't bet on it) I just wanted to warn against using an automatic tool as I think there's some confusion as to how these things work. But yeah recolorations a really interesting and very useful resource! im not saying to avoid it altogether which i'm sure Nicole knows :)

  • @VS-kf5qw
    @VS-kf5qw 24 дня назад

    The jump cut from those 19th century portraits of Eva to her rocking a flannel shirt in the 70's just blew my mind.

  • @hannnahm
    @hannnahm 2 года назад +1

    That is absolutely fascinating. My family photographs only date back to the 1900's, and the split between "Upper middle class" and "Grandpa lost his leg in a train accident so now we're poor" is VERY evident in the photos. All the earliest ones are in very nice formal clothing, posed and very clear obviously professional photographs, and then the photos from around 1920 or so are obviously very casual home photographs of the kids, almost never the parents, always waring very casual working clothing. They start looking fancy again around WWII when the kids are adults, but never again the super-professional posed portraits from the 1910's.

  • @killamoosdraree730
    @killamoosdraree730 2 года назад +3

    Genealogy is one of my other pastimes besides sewing. It's really quite interesting to delve into. It's especially fun if you happen across a family member's name in a newspaper. Sadly records do get lost and create brick walls on certain branches. Similarly, I have run into family members who have connected my own branch to the wrong ancestors in the same family tree (untangling that mess can be time consuming). I used to use a free website called gencircles to record my family tree - gencircles was purchased by myheritage and I can no longer access my data without paying for a subscription. Luckily I have my own hard copies. Because myheritage was able to gain so many family trees through gencircles, it really is an excellent resource to connect with other genealogists in your own family and share those fun stories that aren't recorded on any documents. Ancestry is another website that has excellent resources for historical records.
    When studying those actual handwritten records, you can notice how cursive writing styles have changed and sometimes find that surnames can be indexed incorrectly (Sometimes a capital S can look like a capital L to the modern reader as an example). Using that information, you can sometimes jump over a brick wall by trying to misspell your own family surnames. It was also not uncommon for a family to change their surname after migration. If you run into this brick wall, sometimes you can search first names including known relationships (say you know their names were Elizabeth and John and that they were married before migration as well as their approximate year of migration). This technique can work to point to possible prior surnames which can then be verified through other known facts about the couple such as the date and place of their marriage. Happy researching and as always thanks for sharing!

  • @jenniferb4764
    @jenniferb4764 2 года назад +2

    My grandparents house was full of old photos, they were in north Alabama. They were not like these. They had some blown up really big framed on the walls. They were horrifying when we were kids. Many of them had been done by traveling photographers in a field somewhere around there(from what my grandmother said). I would like to say I would look at them differently now as an adult, but some of them were really odd and I am still afraid to walk around that house at night, and the photos are still horrifying.

  • @LtSarai
    @LtSarai 2 года назад +2

    This made me remember looking through old photo albums at my great grandparents' house when I was younger. Now I wanna hit up grandma and see if she still has them.

  • @Chibihugs
    @Chibihugs 2 года назад +19

    Thank you for sharing your family history with us. I love looking at past photos they can tell us so much.

  • @rynrose81
    @rynrose81 2 года назад +9

    I love everything about this video, the fashion details, the family photos and stories. My extended family has splintered a lot in recent years so it’s really fun and interesting to look further back at a different era and hear different stories

  • @ChayatsujiKimono
    @ChayatsujiKimono 2 года назад +14

    I love this video and it resonates so much

    • @NicoleRudolph
      @NicoleRudolph  2 года назад +8

      How neat! I recently acquired a book about the various types of folkwear around Germany and I am amazed at how varied it was from one small region to the next. I'm also amazed at how many of the elements (like embroidery patterns) have survived into modern fashion. A lot of the people in the book are also wearing antique clothing that would have been "fashionable" mixed with the traditional pieces, which is extra fascinating! That's great that you're finding all of that research material.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 2 года назад +3

      @@NicoleRudolph now that you mention it, Europe must have had such a variety of folkwear. I am also from the Netherlands, but was lucky to visit ethnographic musea in Eastern Europe. The regional differences in both West and East are stark! Now let's count the countries that you pass through from the Netherlands to Eastern Europe and imagine how many regions that must be with their own folkwear 😲

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 года назад +4

      @@rdb4996
      If you just count countries, you’re _really_ undercounting, because regions within countries had their own traditions and styles too.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 2 года назад +2

      @@ragnkja I know!! But my brain cannot comprehend the amount of traditions/styles/folklore that used to be and that we lost 😱

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 года назад +1

      @@rdb4996
      They’re not necessarily completely lost, but there definitely used to be a lot more variation in how people dressed. Nowadays you could travel to the other end of the country (or even to another country) and people-especially teenagers-still look basically the same as what you’re used to. At best you might see one or two who are wearing one garment that is specific to the region, unless of course it’s a special day when people wear traditional dress.

  • @RiverBear37
    @RiverBear37 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm fortunate to have a lot of family photos from my dads side I love looking at them and learning what I can about them. My moms grandparents were poor immigrants so there are very few photos of them but I love the ones we have. I just saw some of 2 of her grandparents for the first time yesterday which was exciting for me. My dad is also an archivist and he's been showing me the old photos and documents my whole life which has made me very interested in history. I would love to have a job like his when I'm an adult.

  • @guineapig1985
    @guineapig1985 2 года назад +2

    Love this...as my grandparents are passing away and losing their memories, I am getting more and more interested in family history. I know they all did a bunch of work on genealogy and family history and uncovered and preserved a lot of stuff...I guess it's time for my generation to start to take interest

  • @fleurpouvior2967
    @fleurpouvior2967 Год назад +1

    I have two photo albums I put together in my teens. I should really go through and label them. Preferably in the most confusing ways possible, so future family members can spend years trying to work out what it means.

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 2 года назад +2

    My word! It's a wealth - a veritable Aladdin's cave of gems from your family's past. Thank you so much for sharing some of this with us - somehow having the girls all troop into town to the local photographer, dressed in their most fashionable and up to date gowns - it's adds such depth to these images. It brings them alive and makes me really like the young women in the photo and makes them very real to me 😊

  • @honoraweaver788
    @honoraweaver788 2 года назад

    I just made an 1895 bodice and skirt inspired by an 1895 picture of my 2nd great-grandmother. I have been researching my family for over ten years now. I love old pictures. They really do tell a story.

  • @Rhaifha
    @Rhaifha 2 года назад +2

    Oh man, those are some great outfits! From what I've seen most of my ancestors we still have pictures of just wore the local historical dress style (from a rural and conservative part of the netherlands), so they just wore a whole lot of black.
    I did get some great stories from my grandmother though. I treasure that stuff.

  • @dieschatten
    @dieschatten 2 года назад +5

    This is so supremely helpful!! I inherited a whole bunch of late 19th early 20th century photos from both sides of my family. one side wrote names and dates on the backs, the other did not 😅

  • @dismae7784
    @dismae7784 2 года назад +20

    OMG I loved this video so much!!!! The detailed description of your research methods was so helpful and satisfying. Would love to see more of these kinds of videos!!!!!

  • @valentinacavalottivelasco9484
    @valentinacavalottivelasco9484 2 года назад +1

    this video was FASCINATING.
    Just the other day we were looking at old pictures with my dad and i realized i can date them pretty closely by the clothes they're wearing, which is actually pretty exciting because many of the photos we don't have the names or dates

  • @crystilmurch5659
    @crystilmurch5659 2 года назад +4

    This was super fascinating! Eva sounds like she lived a very interesting life. This whole look into common people's lives has dispelled some myths about less wealthy folks and their clothing. Thank you for sharing!

  • @lesleyharris525
    @lesleyharris525 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your family photographs and storys, please keep us updated on what you discover, my cousin tryed to trace the family but could only go so far and contacted my mum for help and was shocked to discover that the reason she could not trace the marriage of our great grandparents is they never had a legal wedding, they jumped the broomstick!

  • @caoimhenimhuireadhaigh1303
    @caoimhenimhuireadhaigh1303 2 года назад

    The best friend matching dresses are honestly iconic

  • @mcwjes
    @mcwjes 2 года назад

    I used to always buy the old pictures at the thrift shop in town. I don't know whose family they are, but I like to think they'd be glad someone appreciates their baby pictures and the farm they loved.

  • @Niobesnuppa
    @Niobesnuppa Год назад

    It's so fascinating to look at all these details that give you more of a clue as to who the person was, and what they were like. It's so easy to just think of people from the past as random names you will never know or care about, but they lived lives as full of love, hardship and happiness as we do. My dad is really into researching our ancestry, and he actually found a prison document from our ancestor back in the 1700's who had gone to jail for beating up a man who was hitting on his wife when they were at a tavern. There's also a number of pictures of my ancestors, who lived mostly in the Telemark region of southeastern Norway, dressed in beautiful folk costumes.

  • @MizzMaree7
    @MizzMaree7 2 года назад +1

    I have family who were farmers in Frankfurt. How fun to see yours!

  • @WanderTrust
    @WanderTrust Год назад +1

    omg i love this!! My dads side comes from the logging industry, and I live in a city that used to be a big logging town (and still is a bit) and so when i was at the local thrift shop I noticed some old books about the logging industry in my area. I bought them for $5 cash only from an old woman, and inside of them were a couple very cool photos!! one of them I didn't discover until I showed the book to my dad, and he actually RECOGNIZED a couple of the guys in the photo, said likely where the photo was taken and also that it was way before his time...There was also a name written in the book (the owners name) who he recognized. So very cool to piece those things together. I think it's really cool that your family has held on to so many family heirlooms. I've never really felt that kind of connection to where I'm from and my family, but I'm really enjoying piecing these things together as an adult :)

  • @brandielee7971
    @brandielee7971 2 года назад

    I'm envious of the amount of photos you have of your family. I know a bit about my family from verbal history but it was made very clear that the one to two photographs we had was because of how poor we were going all the way back

  • @WomanRoaring
    @WomanRoaring 2 месяца назад

    This is so cool. On my mom’s side I can only go back to the early 1900s. My maternal grandmother’s mother came to the us in 1904 and her father was born here but his family was from Ireland and came over in the late 1800s and there were no photos. I would love to have these photos going back so far!

  • @digitaldgirl4459
    @digitaldgirl4459 2 года назад +5

    Such lovely photos of your family and the history you shared was wonderful. My father was a photographer since the early 40's and so many other families histories are there in photos we still have even 5 years after his passing. The ones of our family strikes up such great memories and faces of long gone elders. You are so blessed to have such wonderful historic photos of your family.

  • @sayakota3054
    @sayakota3054 2 года назад

    In France, most regions scanned all their old records for people to read. We managed to trace one part of our family back to the 1500s!
    My great grandma was around until 1975 as well. We have a photo of her from the 70s and she's still rocking her 1900s hairstyle. This generation fascinates me - imagine being born in the 1880s and seeing men on the moon, tv, computers etc, and all the fashion changes during your lifetime!

  • @bonniehyden962
    @bonniehyden962 2 года назад +1

    Oh my gosh!!! Why have I never thought of going through the photos my mom has to research historic fashion??!! 🤦‍♀️ Time with mom, learning family history, decoding fashion? What could be better? Thank you so much for sharing this video, Nicole! I look forward to seeing more of your family. What a handsome lot they were, too! 🤗

  • @SusanYeske701
    @SusanYeske701 2 года назад +1

    We have some old family photos that we need to get definitive names and dates for before everyone who knows who was in the pictures passes on. This was really helpful, thanks

  • @curiouslywoven9737
    @curiouslywoven9737 2 года назад

    I think digitization of family photos is terrific, especially for junior branch family members. You’re so lucky to have access to all of your family photos and not to suffer from lack of shared information. It was great a few years ago to have a family reunion with my mother’s paternal cousins and find out more about the family. My sister and I, the youngest members of the family present, spent most of our time there quizzing everyone we could and scanning every family photograph. That one weekend took that portion of the family history from being a complete blank pre 1900s to some line histories being fully outlined pre American revolution with photos dating back to just before the civil war! I even discovered that I and a second cousin had both been undergraduates at UGA at the same time. He had studied film while I was studying history. My best friend at the time even married one of his cousins (no relation of mine). Unfortunately we never met and he died in Afghanistan a few years after we graduated.
    On a slightly different note, your discussion on early photography got me to thinking of some of my favorite films on the subject. Have you seen The Governess (1998), Shadow Magic (2000), or Everlasting Moments (2008)?

  • @msandigail
    @msandigail 2 года назад

    My great great aunt Beryl noted down the names of the dogs, horses, and cows in her photos, but rarely the humans!! We have a "photo album" of negatives from her from 1910 that I would love to scan - working farm clothes, candid shots of women and men both working in the wheat fields during harvest, an amazing image of her friend drinking tea and reading a date-able issue of Good Housekeeping!! So much amazing history!

  • @inr63
    @inr63 Месяц назад

    Thank you for being so gracious as to share your family’s memories with us. 🤍

  • @lauralake7430
    @lauralake7430 Год назад +1

    My people were pretty much dirt poor, and they somehow had a new dress every year, going back to 1901, per oral history. I dont have any photos, or not very many, but my grandma was a good listener. In turn, so was i.

  • @lenaeospeixinhos
    @lenaeospeixinhos 2 года назад +4

    I'm squealing at these pictures 🥰 love love love! Wish my family's pictures had been this well preserved, but there were few and they're very damaged 😭

  • @sweetlorikeet
    @sweetlorikeet 2 года назад

    That spinning wheel is absolutely gorgeous and I want to use it to make yarn desperately

  • @kjmav10135
    @kjmav10135 2 года назад

    I have a very old photo album of my great aunt, galavanting around with her friends. She was born in 1890, so, because of this video, I can now figure out about when these pictures were taken. Must have been a very early, portable camera. I’m going to dig the album out and have a second look! Thanks!

  • @thiadesg
    @thiadesg 2 года назад

    You're so lucky to have so many photographs! My ancestors were farmers in Quebec and I don't have any pictures before 1935 (my grandpa in diapers!), because they never went to a studio, but they got their own camera around that time.

  • @InThisEssayIWill...
    @InThisEssayIWill... 2 года назад +1

    This is so cool! My dad was working on genealogy before he passed and I've been waiting for my mom to get me a copy of his files so I can pick back up where he left off... My uncle is the only other living person from that side of the family who could tell me anything... And considering they are twins I worry that he will encounter similar health struggles and that knowledge will all be lost...

  • @CaraTheStrange
    @CaraTheStrange 2 года назад +2

    I love your videos and voice so much. You sound like a wise mentor in all the best ways!

  • @vincentbriggs1780
    @vincentbriggs1780 2 года назад

    This is so interesting, and thank you so much for including men's fashion!!
    It's not an era I know much about, but I'm still awfully tired of people claiming 19th century menswear is inherently boring or "all the same".

  • @MsFitz134
    @MsFitz134 2 года назад

    I seriously cannot believe I get to watch this stuff for free. This was such an awesome video full of incredible photos, fascinating stories, and useful information. Have you ever considered doing a presentation about dating historical fashion at a genealogy conference like NGS or RootsTech?

  • @wendyreynolds2261
    @wendyreynolds2261 2 года назад

    This was so cool and informative! And the BFF pic of Edith and Eva is the sweetest!

  • @SpanishEclectic
    @SpanishEclectic 2 года назад

    This is wonderful, Nicole! I am also fortunate to have many old family photos, including a few tintypes. My maternal grandmother lived in the Bronx, NYC, and worked at a photography studio around 1918, when she was 17 years old. She hand water-colored photos as part of her job, and had her own camera. Unfortunately, she wrote nothing down, despite my Mom nagging her. My paternal grandmother grew up near St. Croix Falls, WI, and wrote notes on everything! I love comparing her 1912 teaching school graduation dress with the snazzy outfit she wore at the Santa Monica boardwalk after moving to CA in 1925. The library at San Diego State University has fashion section with bound copies of Ladies magazines going back to the 1880s. SDSU was founded in 1897 as a Normal School for Ladies (teachers). I think it's time to subscribe!

  • @anniebell6846
    @anniebell6846 2 года назад

    The spinning wheel and the dog pics are awesome.

  • @monikathomas4985
    @monikathomas4985 2 года назад

    I love the best friends picture! 😍 And those gowns were really pretty

  • @maryduhon9769
    @maryduhon9769 7 месяцев назад

    I love looking at photos from this time period

  • @chrisbeckstrom6182
    @chrisbeckstrom6182 2 года назад

    What an absolute treasure to have such an archive of photos!

  • @frankieamsden7918
    @frankieamsden7918 2 года назад +3

    I love this video! I have family photos going back to the 1860's-ish. Some of them I know the identity. My grandmother took a lot of photos with a friend in the 1930's but I don't know who she was.

  • @PepperReed214
    @PepperReed214 2 года назад

    I am lucky enough to have a lot of photos from my mother's side of the family. It is an amazing gift to have faces to go with names. It has helped me connect with my 3 and 4x great grandparents. Thanks for the info to help me specifically date them based on the fashions.

  • @TealCheetah
    @TealCheetah 2 года назад

    Grandpa with the candid shots is so wholesome and wonderful.

  • @mrschurch1979
    @mrschurch1979 2 года назад +1

    I was eating lunch while watching your video, and when you said Frankfort, I just about died of choking on my sandwich. My husband's family is from that area and he spent his first twelve years there. Small world!

  • @Joe___R
    @Joe___R 2 года назад +1

    Even though some people update their wardrobe to align with modern trends there will always be those who don't. Men are much more likely to keep with a style they like or simply not buy new dress clothes as often. As long as their preferred style is still available for purchase or even more likely able to be made for them. I know people who haven't changed clothing styles in over 80 years. I haven't changed styles in over 20 years & I don't plan to ever change it.

  • @bonestormftw
    @bonestormftw 2 года назад

    I could watch these videos ALL DAY! So interesting I need to re-examine all my family photos I have piles and piles!

  • @mlatham23
    @mlatham23 6 месяцев назад

    Another thing to remember is that often, they made these gowns themselves. I am pretty sure you are getting to the period of time when it wasn't uncommon for families to have sewing machines. Even today I may not buy exactly the amount of fabric that I need. That extra may get pulled back out and the garment refashioned to update the look.
    Actually the Little House in the Big Woods series of books, gives a pretty good look into how women kept up with fashion in the center of the US, on a farmers income.

  • @espurrlady3397
    @espurrlady3397 2 года назад +3

    Omg I love this!! I have some old pictures laying around the house I have needed to get dated for a while and now this video made it possible!!

  • @hexonyou
    @hexonyou 2 года назад

    i grew up very near to frankfort in a similarly small town, it's definitely got a weird feeling all its own. There are a lot of buildings in my hometown that have very historical architecture and always made me feel more tied to the history of the town around me

  • @christyb2912
    @christyb2912 2 года назад +2

    Fascinating!!! thank you I really enjoyed this - your knowledge is amazing -and 19th century first names are hilarious aren't they? Epaminondes?? Manly?? In my family tree (french Canadian) I have Euphrosine and Adjutor LOL

  • @blktauna
    @blktauna 2 года назад

    Eva is stunning. That look in her first pic is hilarious.

  • @j.singer8461
    @j.singer8461 2 года назад

    You make some very interesting points analyzing how to date photos. Particularly that clothing was more expensive, but people had less to spend money on. Also, that outside of major citiies, people were likely to be a few years behind the trends. Even now, new trends take time for new trends to be widely adopted. And yes, we define trends in decades, but people don't through out all of their clothing as soon as we enter a new decade.