The GOLD SELLING UNDERWORLD of WoW Classic | Asmongold Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Why gold selling in Classic WoW is worse than you think
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Whenever Asmon remembers something illegal he did back in the day-
"Man, so my friend..."
Big true
Hahaha
@Ripperchieff lmao when you translate this to English it gives you one less ha and makes it lowercase
@@jerryturgin6583 hahaha is german and means haha in english. Your welcome
@@ripperchieffIt's you're not your, you're welcome.
Yknow, Asmon is kidding, but my mom introduced me into WoW by telling me you just kill things and skin them. I did this on her character for weeks, before she showed me flower picking.
She was a smart lady I guess lmao
Very Smart xD
Your mom taught me a lot of things honestly.
@@tehjamerzchill
@@tehjamerz I think she's fucken hot as hell tbh
Plus your name is Jason. Only people born in like 1970 are called Jason. You're a old Gen X Nirvana fan aren't you? You can't even come back from me ripping you up. You been banished. GG no RE. Owned. Go google more jokes.
Next thing you know the IRS will shutdown Blizzard servers for an audit.
Honestly at this point with Blizzard, it wouldnt surprise me lol.
My friend works for Chase Bank for a decade at the department of frauds and blizzard is number company with the most scams
The only thing that could fix blizz would be the irs
@@OnlyTidus not even supervillains tangle with the IRS
We can only hope
I miss the days of Swockwickdus' Death Rolls. It was a real world of warcraft.
This! That was the real way to get a profit
And he got that dudes staff of Jordan
Lol, ya that was pretty epic
Those were the most dope days of classic wow tbh.
Making kids play WoW is a real strat. I was so excited to play for my Uncle and he just had me fishing and mining for him all the time.
My cousin, who was older than me, introduced my brother and I to Runescape. He got me to get his mining skill to lvl 89 lol
Lmao that’s how my dad got me into this game… showed me his cool ass Headless Horseman mount in wrath and had me mine/skin/fish for him
The kids yearn for the virtual mines
The consequences of child labor 100 years later, a resurgence in the modern digital day, an essay.
Back in Wrath I had a friend who was broke IRL, his family life was awful and at 16 he was supporting himself. We would "buy" his gold with $ so we could support our friend without him feeling like it was charity.
u a good friend
So he was playing wow instead of fixing his life,and you guys decided you would milk him out of his wow gold? True friends
@@markxv2267 did you miss the part where he was 16 and supporting himself?
@@markxv2267Would you rather him play wow and sell gold or go commit crimes and participate in illegal real world activities?
@@markxv2267what a shit takeaway. He was 16. Clearly his choices had little to do with his circumstances
At this point, I must admit that it was me, in 2007, who asked my father forcibly after seeing all the commercials on TV. We did raids together, dungeons, joined a guild and saw the members irl. And now I'm still here but alone.
@Eternal wow they have a family with 4 children and aren't alone playing the same game for 20+ years? Raising the next generation? Wow yeah soooo depressing
who asked
When I played on Whitemane my guildie got death threats and mass reports from the farming / gold selling mafia for undercutting and trying to reset prices in flasks / lotuses. They control the economy and regular players cant stop it
thats how mafia works, kiddo
@@benne6512 That's why we made the rico.
@@atrent3732 which server was this on? I vaguely remember something like this.
If only WoW had an owner, who had the authority to enforce the rules and get those people banned
@@Kelso540 There were Devilsaur Mafias on every pvp server.
So let me get this straight. People pay money so they don’t have to play the game and then wonder why there’s a wow token and diablo immo?
Yeah this is just supply and demand.
wow is a game for boomers now, dad gamers, people that dont have the time to play the game because they have a wife a job and 5 kids, thats why gold sellers exists
@@user-vv1io2hn3s they've always existed. Sure, it's more accepted now, but I remember people just hiding that they bought gold back in the day. It's always just been baked into the game
I don't think anybody wonders why, the community is full mask-off at this point
I see it splitting into GDKP servers/non GDKP servers
@@Tiven321 true brother, the demand to be milked for irl money in order to finally be good at a 20 year old game. I bet there’s plenty of suppliers for that huh.
I have always suspected that Blizzard are in on this and only take action if its too obvious. Apparent proof of this is when Blizz lost the lawsuit to that bot company, the day after they lost they banned the implicit accounts that were using bots. in short they could not earn money from the lawsuit so they made game that way so they could, since the wow token came in play.
Yeah you can't sit here and tell me that blizz aren't aware of this
Reminds of me of how a runescape dev was in on the ddosing of streamers and the scamming of players in the arena for their gold
I will admit I had my daughter farm ore in FF14 a couple of times
my man!!
Least you spent some kind of time with her. Most father's don;'t even do that. Esp. gaming ones who are losers that stay addicted to games over the age of 21.
@@DannyP-dm1pw go touch grass. 4chan is bad for you but you don't need me to tell you that lol
ff14 player, pony picture... please seek help to never touch your daughter
@@DannyP-dm1pw lol, "IT'S tHe PaReNtS, WoN't SoMeOnE ThInK oF ThE ChIdReN?!" typical zoomer, lmao. it's the parents fault because you aren't rich and don't own a Tesla. wah wah wah.
Real story when i was in high school back in original vanilla wow, my friends dad was grinding r14 and during summer holidays he made him farm premades all day for him while he was at work, and if he came home and he hadn't farmed him enough honour points he used to go crazy. The was back before cross realm bgs so every que took like an hour only for you to get into the game and the other team immediately just left when they saw it was a premade. If you were lucky you might get 1 or 2 games per day vs another premade.
unrelated but on a similar line: before that, his dad bought ff8. They each had their own save file, but if his dad came home and my friend was further than him in the game he would just delete his save file... so my friend had to check where his dad was so he wouldn't go past him and then stop playing. His dad was fucking arse at games so it took forever to get anywhere lol
That's like wow NC
no way to avoid this in modern day MMos cause companies never punish it. look at every MMO. inflation goes nuts, people buy carries or inferno capes, or ultimate runs
4:40 Man I remember how i "trained" my 9yo brother to farm fishing mount from Conjurer Margos in Legion, he was grateful that i let him touch "game for adults"
Did I watch this 30 minute video yesterday in its entirety? Yes.
Am I going to watch an hour-long episode of asmon's reaction to said video? Also yes.
😂guilty of the same😂
Lol same.
so players killed the game themself. and then players are shocked when gamedevs decide to add personal loot into a MMO.
pretty much ya capitalism will always win over anything
I might have bought gold in classic years ago. So they sent it with some items and a long letter. The letter was apologizing that he and his wife stacy heard I was in the hospital. He then said, hey here this is for you, I hope it helps. It was from CN. After that though it always just said ""gdkp cut". Only time I got banned was before they did it this way. It was a 3 day ban but they didnt even take the gold away from me.
It's funny when Asmon mentions the bots in Hellfire Ramparts back in Cata, because that was my favorite farm. I was too stupid or poor to get a bot program, though. It was just like 12 hours a day of me rerunning and vendoring.
As a resto shaman, I found GDKP's one of the only few ways to lift my character out of poverty. I didn't have alts to supplement my healer's income, I only played 1 character and that's all he did was heal. Occasionally I would bid for something, but for the most part I would just contribute my share to the pot and stick it out until the end of the raid.
As someone who played back in the original wrath days and only just a little bit of og classic at launch I never saw anything gdkp or knew anything about it... Can't you just like run the dungeon or whatever like normal and get loot the normal way? I never understood why people are dropping 10k+ on items in the first place. That just sounds ridiculous.
@@Ljrobison Because if you have gold you can get items easier, if you don't have gold but you're geared you can join the same raid and get paid for it, so it's a self sustaining economy. Some people take Min-Maxing that seriously, plus what else are you gonna use gold on in classic
@@TypicalDote I guess I just don't get it. I've never even had close to even 10k in classic through probably even wrath even. I don't understand some of these insane numbers in these runs. Like where the hell is all this gold coming from? And this was even before the token, which I can only assume will inflate these numbers even more.
@@Ljrobison the numbers would probably be less insane if gold sellers / buyers were banned more often, same as botters. I'm sure adding a legit way to buy gold will only make more people do it
@@Ljrobison He explains all this in the video. The WOW token does not spawn gold, the only thing it might do is bring more gold into circulation, but the inflation factor wont be much compared to botting.
Literally why I stopped playing classic when TBC came around.. People want to escape their real life suffering in the fantasy of Azeroth, but can't seem to leave their credit cards behind..
Back in original Warth and TBC my dad would pay me pocket money to do mining, skinning, herbing while he was at work so 7 year old me would spend more time playing than my dad did. Used to listen to Linkin Park on Itunes while doing it loved those days.
17:35 Someone needs to save this clip for future asmongold rants.
This is hardly an underworld anymore, its more like a shopping mall
"This game is so f*cking stupid. What happened?"
Well, they allowed GDKPs to exist and they did nothing about gold buying/selling. This is why private servers are a generally better player experience and why they're growing in popularity again.
I am shocked, I did not know they brought the gold token to classic. I stopped playing classic because of all of the speed leveling, bah not the way it was intended and yes it happened back in the original too lol.
I was undercutting some insane price on iron ore (like 10gp a ore) and i put in like 300 ore. Some guy start whispering me about it in some foreign language clearly upset.
funny how the Wow token on Farelina went from 10k to 5k in like a week. no one is gonna end up buying a token with gold when they have more money IRL than in game
The price doesn't drop because people aren't buying them, the price drops because people ARE buying them. When people stop buying them they increase in price as there's less in circulation
@@TypicalDote i'm pretty sure the guy means buying a token with gold to turn in for play time and you're talking about buying tokens with money to get gold so you're both correct
@@TypicalDote no actually when ppl dont buy with gold price goes down. So if more ppl buy with $ and try to sell the token but less ppl are buying price will go down
@@TypicalDote It's because they can get like 3 months of game time for $13 by RMT through gold sellers rather than going through blizzard lmao.
@@aranahjohnson9640 Yes but it can also work out that if more people are buying token than selling them the price will also drop. Either way, people will always buy tokens because there's plenty people that don't trust RMT
The WoW token actually still isn’t worth buying, people are still buying gold on websites since $22 gets you 20k instead of $20 for 6k.
Its an excellent way to get cheap gametime tho. I got 5 months worth for 30$ 👌
@@Verycoolguy1337 Oh yeah, if you’re spending gold for WoW token, not selling it for gold. I guess I should’ve made that clear: it doesn’t really feel worth spending $20 to get the token, so some are still just getting raw gold off of websites.
really ?
and no ban ?
@@FelipeLeiter ofc not, blizzard doesnt moderate lmao
Just look at the weed market. Even in legal states. People buy from street dealers, because its cheaper than going to the dispensary and paying a huge tax markup. The token thing is essentially the same thing.
I used to do things to make gold in retail and then I realized people will pay gold cap for mounts and started carrying raids
Easy fix, no more mailing gold. Gold sellers aren't gonna hang out in stormwind doing trades all day, it'd be too inefficient.
lol yes they would
And this is one of the main reasons I quit wow, and am never planning on returning. Economy completely ruined by botting and rmt.
This is a big reason why people like fresh servers. I bought a ton of wow tokens for game time when I played. It got to a point where it got to expensive and I quit playing during BFA.
It must be really hard to identify a bot as a bot, when the account uptime is like 23+ hours per day for more than 3 days straight. That is either account sharing or botting. Just ban it no questions asked. I remember back in early diablo 3 where you could actually look at these kind of stats on some third party sites. And there were accounts with 99%+ uptime that had not been banned for months. Just ridiculous.
I pugged an m+ +11 Azure Vault in 10.0, and we had a Vulperan Monk Tank that was a bot. It was very suspicious at first and using abilites that forced movement on the tank messed up the bot, basically giving the group confirmation. We all reported, and about a week later, I was sent a message saying that action was taken. However, that bot was probably just running m+ over and over again, grinding valor.
5:00 flashbacks to my mom and dad getting me to gear up their rogue and druid for pvp
Gold sellers have existed since Vanilla. Nothing can surprice anymore about WoW. Everytime I watch those videos I get reminded of why I quit this game back in legion.
You get this type of services for every online game.
The bottom line is blizzard has complete control over the backend of the game and can log any transaction they want to. Obviously acting on that data in real time is a big ask, but they could certainly use their logs to identify the path gold takes in the game and ban users accordingly. The idea that you could somehow 'launder' gold in WoW is ridiculous, and the only reason why people are able to do RMT is because blizzard allows it to happen. Why is anybody's guess, I can only assume some spreadsheet tells them it's more profitable to allow this kind of thing.
Right now when botters are just trading gold directly maybe u can. But once u start doing it they will do it in ways that will lead to false bans. For example in between sending gold through mail for their actual transactions they will just send some to a random person and now that person gets banned. Or they can join a GDKP raid with their bot account, buy a bunch of gear for insane prices and the pot gets partially distributed to the people who paid them for it and to normal raiders who just happend to be in that raid.
Basically yes u know where the gold ends up, but u don't know if the person who received it did anything illegal to receive it.
Because Blizzard is making money of gold sellers. They pay for accounts, they sell gold to players, which keeps them in the game, which keeps them paying a subscription.
Tarkov has the same problem. Devs ban a shit load of hackers, hackers just buy new accounts and the Devs profit.
They are very obviously profiting from it. Bots need gametime, the botters either a) use real money to buy game time, or b) buy WoW Tokens with gold, which still needs to be bought by someone somewhere with real money. Why would they go after the people who are generating them profit? Bots are the backbone of gold selling and by association GDKP's, It's literally an ecosystem, remove one part of it and it dies off, but Blizzard themselves are a part of that ecosystem, so again, why would they kill off bots when they are profitable? Bots, goldselling, and GDKP's will forever be a part of WoW. This is also the exact reason they kept trading allowed in HC, eventually there will be GDKP's in that as well and Blizz will add WoW Tokens or even fucking revives, honestly wouldn't put it past them, so that they can join in on the cycle and make even more money.
During early wow I managed to get some sharpening stone schematic that only dropped in the Barrens at a low rate. I was the first person on my server to get one (at least.. the first to get one and realize that they could sell them and make a fortune) and what a glorious 2 weeks that was. 10 gold a pop seemed to be the sweet spot. Made 1-2k gold. A lot for a lv20odd at the time.. until the dreaded day when none sold and I saw someone else had posted for 9g99s. A few days later and he was posting for 2g so I had to message the guy. He said to meet him at some bar in orgrimmar to talk it through. I reluctantly went.. and oh boy. I just told him that if we both sold at 10 gold, we would both benefit so it's a win-win. He said "You know.. collusion is a serious crime. The orgrimmar militia will throw us in the stocks if they find out. I'll have to think this over for some time." Ahhhh I was 12 years old. I just wanna make some gold dude. Will you or will you not agree to just cease this undercutting war?? After 5 minutes of him talking with no answer I gave up. The next day I noticed that 2 more people had started selling them so the price was down to 1g anyways.
I don't even remember the point of why I was telling this story but I had to finish it.
People literally sell stuff under vendor price on AH. The AH is a freaking circus.
What an amazing world we got to experience, as much as I hate Blizzard for turning the game into what it is now, I'm grateful for the good times. I love reading random experiences like these, thanks for sharing.
Sounds like you shoulda taken some sort of deal, way too greedy
wth are you talking about, during the early wow people would buy sharpening stones for 10g? Even at 1g doesn't seem likely at all. You sure you're not thinking of silvers?
Used to use a mephisto/pindle bot in D2, go to sleep and wake up to a nice inventory of stuff.
gold farming and selling ruined the last server I played on, it got to the point no one was running anything except mage bots running people thru all the various 5 mans as you leveled, so people would buy gold, buy runs, get to max, be absolutely useless, then eventually people started the transfer train off the server because most people were useless in pvp and pve, then the gold buyers started transfering off because there was nothing to do at the end game
What I think they meant when they said WoW token didn't generate any income is that in terms of subscriptions it's not giving them more money, since without the token you'd still need to buy a sub. However the fact you can buy stuff of the blizz store makes it so it's definitley more profitable than a sub fee. They probably just misspoke either on purpose or not
How would it not give them more money on a sub? A token costs $5 more than a sub and is only worth $15 in balance, so it's straight up $5 profit on a token that costs $20
@@mathias3721 I’m not saying they make less money, I’m trying to make sense of the fact that the PRESIDENT of blizzard is saying that the token doesn’t make them more money. Also a wow sub is like 13$ if you buy bulk so even if the token was 15 they’d make more money than a sub.
@@mathias3721 because those 5$ will get eaten up by taxes, credit card fees, etc.
@@Lalon93 They don't pay tax or credit card fees on the $15 sub?
@@mathias3721 they do if somebodys buys a token for 20 and for everyone token bought somebody needs buys the 15 with gold.
I still cannot believe they didn't wipe gold after 60 after they saw the issue bots had created by flooding gold into the game. Alongside not putting into the game legit gold sinks that are relavant for how much gold is generally in the economy.
Plus have to agree, blizzard are aboslutely the same as the gold sellers.
Smartest Thing blizzard could have done is starting a gold selling company under the radar, then make the price like 20% of that what gold sellers want from you.
Make the whole thing not lucrative for them anymore while also getting all the buyers data.
But don't ban them right away, wait for the gold sellers to move on to another game.
Then strike all gold buyers at once
My guild used to sell H LK kills in Wrath for $100... We'd also do 10/25H ICC GDKP runs with 10-15 guildies and would fill the rest with buyers who didn't get a cut. Had a few items that would go for gold cap (DFO/DBW mainly).
One time I purchased gold in wow back in like 2015 I spent like 90 bucks and met up with a dude in wow , I was told to wait at a spot in the world of wow , I was worried I would lose my hard earned dollars worth , I waited
And all a sudden here come a dude on his mount.asked my name and said yes , to my surprise I got hooked up and that day was one of the coolest days at the time for sure , I tip my hat to whoever that was cause I’ll always remember that and made my day for real ! That gold helped me rank up sooo much !
Been looking forward to this reaction, absolutely legendary video from Metagoblin.
Here's the real solution to the problem:
Back in WoD I was convinced that Blizz would introduce a mobile game of the garrison system, with which you could do all the boring legwork like farming gold and making potions etc., I was also convinced that you could set it up in the game so it would just automatically happen while you were offline (so you wouldn't have to set it up on mobile). Garrisons were such a missed opportunity for Blizz, and i haven't touched wow since that expansion. Instead of introducing wow token, you could've just introduced offline play and everybody would be happy, bots would lose their purpose (apart from gDKPs). Blizzard doesn't gain anything by having more people online, you only log in to do content and not slave away gathering flowers. Hell, you could even introduce p2w with buying legendary followers who would gather faster or something. People will always buy gold, unless the company makes it so farming gold/mats/etc. is not a chore. gDKPs will always be a thing, but now they have evolved into an actual business, and i wholeheartedly agree with Asmon's take on the big fat goblin paying for gear from lowly peasants running around killing bosses for him, the wow token killed the RP.
Blizzard is never going to get rid of bots in the way we want them to because they make to much money from bots making new account's. If they ban the bots straight away then they will stop making new accounts which doesn't look good for shareholders because the number of new accounts or new players will decrease.
What they said about the wow token was that the 5 dollar extra fee wasn't a big profit increase. Not that they aren't making money of it.
If Blizzard wanted to spend the money they could easily develop AI that would be capable enough to ID these gold buyers and ban them with 99%+ accuracy.
In the first (non classic) era of the game, playing on an EU, predominantly UK + Dutch + Danish population server, my experience was that it was a HUGE nono to do any type of buying / selling / boosting until at least WOTLK, which is when I quit. You would be shamed and blacklisted serverwide if you got found out.
This is what happens to a game that has no anticheat and that doesnt ban bots and RMTers.
I had a low level money maker toon in EQ. Was just high enough level to self-teleport. You could hide your level in EQ (literally just turn it off), and I had a robe on that character that was super rare, and no way anyone under super high level could realistically get one, but it was on the RP server, so I was able to mule it over from my main. I would get groups together for teleports to hard to reach locations, collect the dough, then teleport myself away as I ungrouped. Ran that thing for years. So many people fell for it multiple times.
Not sure if this qualifies as GDKP but on my vanilla server (EU) back in the day, it was an open secret you could buy yourself into getting carried by mostly the higher-end guilds and claim certain items, or even certain PVP ranks.
But this was then only maybe a handful of people who reserved a spot/specific loot - all on individual negotiation basis.
That’s more of a pay for carry , than a gdkp , gdkp you’re expected to know what you’re doing for the most part unless you are joining as a carry, at which point they expect you to have a lot of gold to spend basically.
Way back in my day of Vanilla wow we did have a private forum for top guilds that were selling spots in their farm runs for gold. Back in the day, people weren't as open about it and didn't trust random people to not mess things up, so guilds needed some assurance. I guess that as demand increased and rmt incentives became a thing, nobody cared anymore about who they brought in for carries.
me sitting here in onslaught harbor waiting on respawns: "am I literally the only person that ENJOYS farming gold?" In Vanilla Classic I actually had a lot of fun doing jump runs in DM, now I make bags in onslaught harbor... I always have more than enough gold, I don't no life the game... I just do not understand the hatred of "farming gold." it has always been one of my favorite aspects of the game, especially on a fresh max toon. What am I gonna do to generate income? what upgrades can I get to make it more efficient? there are fun moments of progress to me. idk...
How about an mmo that has no economy, no currency, and every player has to earn everything they have and maby you can trade certain items for other items In a barter system. Don't know if it could work, but sounds better then this stuff.
Well the stuff you would trade for is no different than buying it for gold
@4:45 When I was grinding for HWL in OG Vanilla, one of the usual crew of grinders regularly had his ~12 year old son play BGs with us on his character when he went to work. He would call his son in sick to get him out of school 1-4 times a week, depending on how much honor he needed to grind. Incredible times.
Playing and raiding with my guild, this is completely invisible to me.
Same lol
Man I haven’t played since literally 2006 and had a nostalgia wave recently and wanted to jump back in Classic to make a rogue twink and looked up auction house prices for Shadowfang and my jaw dropped. Shits like 1 million gold, or a couple grand if you were to RMT for it. Wild
The wow token should be seen as a digital gift card (except for the 5 dollar fee which is pure profit) where the redemption is more of a advertising function as their profit incentive. They can make money from when a wow token recipient buys more than the face value of the card, or when there is an unused balance left on a card.
If they are making redemptions to people who were already going to pay for a sub fee the redemption value loses them an equal value elsewhere.
DO. NOT. REDEEM.
the 5 dollar fee is not even pure porfit if you look at taxes and so on
You got it wrong. Buying the wow token gives blizzard the full $20 profit, not $5. Because from the moment you're not allowed to cash out your money, it becomes a digital fake currency. those $15 u get is not real money, it's a buying power illusion they give you. Even if you don't redeem, they already have your $20 deposited in the bank.
The token is an immediate 20$ in revenue. Whether the player who receives it ultimately uses it or not doesn't matter. Sure it's one less subscription at that point if they use it for that but you already got your money ahead of time. I don't understand how this is hard to wrap your head around.
imagine if blizzard bought gold from these sites, notifying their banks/providers about this so they can refund the amount. Allowing them to get the info of whos selling in game and all accounts linked to it by researching it. If you buying and refunding, and banning accounts left and right, that would put some big stress the the sellers.
Also, if boters really want to maximize their profits, they could try to modify the game to be headless. Which is taking out the rendering so it only does what it needs to bot.
That way you can run way more instances on the same setup, though it would take more effort.
There was a thing in minecraft a few years ago where some people were running several instances and boting to perform an exploit, and they modified the game to not render the game so they could run more instances on the same computer. (This is the NoCom thing that happened on the minecraft server 2b2t)
I just had a baby and I can confirm the reason was so that I've spawned my own gold farmer.
This is so much better from MetaGoblin, I ALWAYS thought he was a low effort creator, but this is much more than what I expected from him. Good job.
Never played WoW but I love these videos for some reason, fair play. Good quality content.
Played WoW on KT just through Burning Crusade. Some really good memories and also the single only instance I ever raged quit a game. My first ever raid run of MC with my guild I kept getting mind controlled into the lava. Pretty funny to think about now. Good times.
They will pretend you’re a buddy coming back, or alt and send potions and mats with friendly messages with gold.
Asmon "I've had a good relationship with blizzard for years"
Also asmon "I don't think blizzard is as predatory as 3rd party websites"
Yes?
Blizzard is not going to hack your account or steal your credit card info, 3rd party scum will if they can
Goddamn, this reminded me individual servers had reputations. Nostalgia TKO
this is why solo self found is so important
i'd like to think that people who try to rmt buy gold on official hc will later probably die and think it wasn't worth spending that money but who knows lol
official HC won't work without this limitation and pvp off. Or it will be just rich P2W twinks VS griefers
@@vashe9they always find a way
Until WoW token eventually gets put in. And it will, let me tell you.
But most of you folks will stay on official blizzard servers like seals regardless.
During Wrath, I was a small time subsistence gold seller. I would sell golf for a game card every month.
When classic wow was re made me and my guild did normal dkp and we collected a few gold per raider around one gold to five depending on what they wanted to donate per raid we would funnel this to alts of officers who we trusted and we gave free enchants ect to all the main raiders on new items there was never any issues
Use punctuation.
@@stillnotchill2560 Get a life.
@@stillnotchill2560 no i dont think i will
How did you make gold from raids if you were using normal dkp system?
@@ingainloggningsnamn well you make gold passive in a raid just killing shit you will end the raid 2-3 gold richer so just doing the raid you make that back.
Gdkp confuses me.. as a boomkin i was in full bis in my 3rd week of doing nax.. theres so many raiding guilds why does anyone pay?
They should put a 10k gold cap per character , this way gdkp bids would be capped at 10k gold, which isn’t enough and would lead the system to be impossible to use unless using trust (over people trading the loots after the raid while waiting the gold being mailed from alts) and people would be forced to use other loot distribution systems
/roll, DKP without G
Implementing that would destroy the game economy, because people would be dumping it on the AH to exchange for material items
"$21 per day may seem like a small amount"
*Me whos living paycheck to paycheck* 😢
This fucks the economies for F2P players so hard. People buy gold = gold value is diluted = everything gets more expensive.
Quoting a guild member when the news broke: "I can't play on my alt right now I'm busy buying anything that's on the AH for a reasonable price"
It's funny that his reason for not using stolen credit cards is that it's risky (24:40). Shouldn't the main reason be that it's criminally illegal?
A regular person does a dozen technically criminal actions a day.
Asmon right. It's about the risk of how big/much of a crime your committing
We live in the real world, not some fantasy holy society. Life sucks and people do what they do to get by. We're all sinners.
i love when asmon goes on about the old days of wow because i just get flashes of streams i watched and times i attempted to get into the game again but would always want to die and never stay long playing
Asmon seems to miss the fact that there are countless methods of making gold naturally in the game. Just with a few alts, you can make tens of thousand of a few world quests on each character. This leads to people essentially receiving services, they otherwise would've paid for, for free. This is why the token may not be a profitable solution.
Imma be honest and admit, i've bought gold in wotlk classic. It is mind numbingly simple and easy. IMO, I feel blizzard should scrap the 2hour window to trade BOP raid/dungeon gear and enforce a system of class-based gear drops. Introduce more daily/consistent gold sinks so players doesn't just sit on millions of gold.
Take OSRS for example, they have their "wow token" version in the form of Bonds but to trade them requires players to pay a hefty fee which offsets the P2W aspect and they are continuously cracking down on the ultra rich by introducing lots of gold sinks, trade taxes and item sinks on their GE to control supply/demand. They're still not perfect, but the economy in OSRS is improving and stabilizing.
This was quality RUclips programming. The nostalgia hit hard.
Way back in the day when I played (Pre-Mists of Pandaria) I was in a guild called “Filthy Casuals”. I logged in one night late for a raid so I ran a PUG Naxx for the lulz and came across this guy decked out.
He couldn’t play worth a damn.
I asked how he could have the gear if he didn’t know how to play, and he basically said he just farms gold, and does random PUGs to get carried to make it look like he was legit.
Needless to say that PUG failed hard, but it was hilarious levels of failure.
In the end, the state which Blizzard is today is the Blizzard that it's Players deserves
Lol I'm trying to imagine a kid being yelled at and told "You are being punished! Now grind my DK for me unti you hit level 50 and If you can't do that by the end of the week you don't get any chicken nuggets next time I get groceries."
Blizzard has lost control, and the funny thing is their doing nothing to sort it. and you know why, their making lots of money from this
I know someone who had parents that had them farm on their toons as a chore they had to do every day before they could play their own lmao.
dear gawd, just imagine. "Mom can I have dinner now?" "you can eat when I see my toon on that protodrake mount"
I find how interesting the first real world turing experiment its happening in gaming right now. How is bot bad if the end user isnt able to perceive that it's a bot? cant wait to see the new era of AI
In my opinion, once blizzard announced classic, WoW is at its end and they're just hanging on to make money
Its so funny that he is surprised about 10g for a potion when they were even more expensive back in 2009 on my server.
Blizzard has completely given up on WoW (Classic and retail)
bald god of games
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i go to overgear on days where i just want to give up. It's just nice to have someone to talk to.
I made mu sibling farm my honor gear on all characters at every new xpac/major patch all the time since TBC 😂
I'm playing on a literal private TBC classic server and there's gold selling on that, it doesn't take long for Gold's others to pop up in any version of the game.
4:50 I actually used to raid on my dad's behalf when he was too busy lmao
By the way, they DO make money on the WoW token. While WoW has regional subscription prices, the WoW token has a fixed, non-regional price. So if someone pays for their sub with a token rather than their lower, regional price, they effectively made money.
I was on Bleeding Hollow. I remember Kel Thuzad hate posts on the forums. good times.
Knew a guy in the Army that lived in the barracks and ran some servers with some bots in his room. He made like 10k a month and because he lived in the barracks, so he never had to pay for utilities.
As a Brazilian who plays wow I corfirm that. this is the pure truth you don't mess with us
"I would make a joke about this being like original Wrath, but this was like original Wrath" No it weren't. Not on EU.