WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. WHAT. It's episode 8, what is even happening right now?!?? If you want to see the full-length timer version of the reaction, check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/semblanceofsanity
I haven't noticed anyone else bring this up so far, but the overhead shot of the "sword guy" with his blood pooling out in the middle of the white rooftop looks EXACTLY like the Japanese flag. I still don't know to this day what Fujimoto was doing there. Because it's a PERFECT circle. It's definitely intentional.
@@RabidDogma I went back and checked the manga, but it's not a perfect circle there, just a generic 'blob' shape and it's cropped in one panel and more oval shaped in another. The overhead shot of Sawatari reviving katanaman is anime-only. The overall shot does look a LOT like the Japanese flag though in the Anime though, it's at like 18 minutes, 15 seconds into the episode, for anyone who wants to check.
3:10 The Fox Devil resides in Kyoto, which is also where the shrine of the fox god is. It could've been worshipped as a god for centuries, hence why its friendly towards humans.
In case you have missed, the ghost devil gave a little smirk after Himeno pleaded to give her life saving Aki. It proves Himeno does not have her screws loose, and let her fear of losing Aki take over. Remember that devil in nature wish for a death of human.
Only to just immediately jump to space and made something so mindbending i just cant say anything about than just good. Yes im talking about look back and goodbye eri.
Tbf Himeno already was clearly dying, she just tried to make her death mean something by giving her entire body to the Ghost devil which made it more powerful. Unfortunately it wasn’t enough to win, but we do know her sacrifice was at least able to keep the attackers preoccupied. Hopefully that ends up meaning something 🤷♀️ Himeno’s whole death scene was just so well done and honestly really sad. Massive props to Fujimoto
We don't have enough world building before this episode to really know who's capable of surviving which wounds. Yes, Himeno was shot and she coughed blood, but we've been baited with a few gory "deaths" and blood as early as the 1st ep so the 1st time watcher is primed to suspend judgement on which deaths are final. The only certain death "hints" that I've noticed so far after a few watches are the stylistic differences between Makima's and Himeno's deaths. Makima's death was too anticlimactic for a central character that still had so many loops to close and motivations to reveal, while Himeno's was beautifully done and prefaced with death flags (in past eps). We know her arc could just end and land gracefully on ep 8 because she's just been fleshed out.
@@markmywords3817 I mean she's human, most human characters in CSM wont survive alot of wounds. Tatsuki Fujimoto makes it clear how fragile human characters are, many, many times.
Give me everything. Quotes from an interview with the author. “I understand why people get attached to their work, but if you spend all day staring at your own story, you’re bound to lose that essential objectivity. Don’t fall too in love with anything you do. Kill your darlings.” “I try to create scenes that readers will remember until the day they gasp their dying breath.” I think this episode embodies that mindset pretty well.
"Give me everything" The sword hybrid is never given a name in the manga as noone ever calls him by one (which is weird considering how important he is) The Promotional material refers to him as "Samurai sword" but we, the fandom, have collectively agreed that is a really lame name so we all just call him "Katana Man" Also theres a design thing I love about him, his transformation comes with a cool Hat.
This episode was insane. My mind went blank for a full minute when it ended. Also, no one believes that Makima is dead, right? I mean, it's just a headshot.
I think this might be a show where dying isn’t permanent. I think Makima is probably dead, but it likely doesn’t matter. I guess worst case scenario you can sell your Devil your soul, if that’s possible.
Give me everything. Since you talked about Aki needing a hammer to go with his nail: The Curse Devil's sword has an inbuilt "hammer". If you rewatch all the nailpierces that Aki landed on the assailant then you can see that a giant demon finger always pops up behind the nailsword to "hammer" (i.e. flick) it into Aki's specified target at the time. Aki also always says "now", "fire" or "shoot" whenever he has the nailsword in position to hit the assailant. A really cool detail regarding this is that in the Manga chapter for this fight the finger of the Curse Devil actually reached from outside the panels of the Manga into the panels where it flicks the nail for Aki. That was a very creative and meta way for Fujimoto to show how otherworldly this devil is to his readers. It's a shame that the Anime couldn't really replicate that - some people said that a real human finger coming from offscreen or something could have evoked a similar feeling but I feel like that would have been too meta and immersion breaking for a lot of watchers of the Anime. Here is how it looked in the Manga if you want to see it for yourself: i.imgur.com/RrVvAwg.png
Fun fact: Aki’s nail (sword) and Nobara’s nail (JJK) are both base on a Japanese cursing ritual, where the practitioner goes to a shrine in the middle of the night (1-3 am), and nails a straw doll representing the target to a sacred tree. The ritual needs to be performed 7 days in a row, which is why there’s usually some kind of countdown.
Welcome to what people refer to as "Chainsaw Man pacing"...though it fits Fujimoto as an author more in general. If you haven't noticed,he doesn't like to stay in a spot for too long,and is always jumping from idea to idea without a care in the world. Which is why the attack on Public Safety works so well: it sneaks up on the characters just as much as it does for the viewers. The shock is palpable. In a recent interview,he said: "I understand why people get attached to their work, but if you spend all day staring at your own story,you're bound to lose that essential objectivity. Don't fall too in love with anything you do. Kill your darlings!"
This is how I interpreted the grandson's actions. I believe his primary motivation to be vengeance against Denji, blaming him for his grandfather's death, despite the whole business with the Zombie Devil. Additionally, remember that the grandfather in the first episode talked about how Public Safety gets in the way of Yakuza when it comes to devils. These two organizations were already at odds. The grandson gets revenge, the Yakuza get a thorn out of their side, and they get in the favor of the Gun Devil by delivering something it wants. The grandson has personal motivation, but the professional benefits are what he gives to his people to justify their involvement and support in this operation.
@@Todd-Alquist Hard disagree. Ywawch is a brutal king with a grudge against the soul society who explicitly does not care about his minions at all while feeding them bs religious rhetoric and literally leeching off of others. He never really grows as a character and his motivations are very unclear as the whole "son of the soul king" thing is never explored at all. Himeno is a girl who has lost people over and over again due to the brutality of life as a Devil Hunter and been devastated by it coping with drinks and smoking, and desperately clinging to Aki her last living partner. That leads to her getting to know him better both becoming an influence on his life, helping build Aki's character to the audience, and falling in love with him as she sees him never lose his hummanity in the face of the same brutality she faces. That very love tragically leads to her giving her life to save him, her only consolation being that as long as he lives there will at least be someone who mourns her. Himeno has all of that in a fraction of the screen time that Ywach had.
This fight specifically sets a very good example for the malevolent nature of devil contracts, you could see the ghost give a tiny smirk when himeno offered herself for this fight because it fully knew this was a futile attempt and it kind of egged her on hoping to see her fail and to try to fuck her over. And as the master said, she died because she acted too rationally, she got shook and she put up everything to try and protect the person she cares about. Had she been more unhinged she could probably make it out of this situation alive. But it's a good lesson to establish that just because you have a contract with a devil, doesn't mean they are your friend.
Yeah actually im kinda disappointed that the anime didnt make Ghost's smirk more obvious. The manga literally had 3 panels of Ghost's mouth went from normal to a joyful smile, so its obvious Ghost was waiting for it.
I generally get the feeling that she was not going to make it out of there with that gunshot wound anyway. No way to get her any medical assistance. It was do and/or die. She could have revived Denji though immediately. That would have stacked up some of their odds.
@@Squiddyize I assume it was because of her selfish desire to have Aki cry for her, she figured that if she was the one to save the day, it'd be more impactful
"Give me everything" 28:05 Actually in the manga (and other sub versions of this episode) Katana Man never said that he just "hears" the gun devil wants his heart, but rather its just a straight up "The Gun Devil wants your heart."
yea the sub they are going with was a terrible one less impactful overall and the himeno dialogues were completely ruined man i feel bad for her it was " ghost, i will give you all of me, so give me all of you "
@@doublex85 yeah, i wouldve TL as "Did you know the Gun Devil wants your heart?", which is still pretty close to what the subs said. However for me though, i didnt read too much into it. i thought the guy just cares about revenge so Gun Devil came second to him.
@@catjamcultist That is so hyperbolic of you :P You can have preferences for different subs based on how it impacts you, but this is definitely not "terrible sub everything is ruined" lol Looking at the original Japanese lines, the fact of the matter is no English translation can capture all the nuisances, and the translators have to err to one side or another when translating to English. If you really are so obsessively fixated on "the best" take then learn Japanese and watch it without subs lol
Give me everything. When Himeno resolves herself to sacrifice everything to save Aki, we've heard the music that plays there before: in the first episode, when Denji's finding his own resolve to fight back against the Zombie Devil and his history of being exploited. Little synth notes, bubbling up, making me feel a sense of clarity. It's a GRIM setting, but to me those meek little notes call out when our protagonists find their purpose and become actual heroes. Godspeed, Himeno.
Welcome to Chainsaw Man! we were finally blessed by Fujimoto sensei's signature warm welcome party, took a while tho, unlike his previous series :'v *regarding the fox devil being friendly to humans, it's probably because of it's long existence with humans, I mean there are legends of the evil fox spirit from ancient china and japan, some fear the fox, others revere it
Also that demon likes to eat, so it's in it's own interest to band with humans. But once you feed it something it doesn't like it ignores you and you can't call it again because it is mad at you, it's a very pet-like demon
And not to mention that contracts with Fox Devil look like this "you can summon me but in exchange I'm gonna eat some part of you every time you use me" so Fox gets both weaker demons as food and also some of humans' flesh and blood. It's win-win contract for Fox and easy ally for Devil Hunters.
"Give me Everything" - There were so many back-and-forths in that battle. It seems like in something like one-piece you'd have like 5 episodes, one where Aki first fights "Katana-man" and wins, another where Aki fights him a second time after red-hoodie revives him and loses, then one where himeno uses ghost and starts to win, then one more episode where the snake shows up and finishes it. Instead it's, like, bang-bang-bang.
“Give me Everything” One of the things this episode conveys very well is the concept of death, and how Fujimoto implements it into his stories. We are made very clear early on in this show that Devil Hunting is a job that comes with great risk, and that death is a commonality, sort of like something that just naturally comes with the job. Fujimoto writes death in a different approach from other mangaka, in the sense that death is not only swift, but it can come in and out unexpectedly at any moment, it doesn’t need too much of a build up for it to happen. This episode sets that standard for you, and I hope you guys are prepared for what’s to come. Love your content, have fun watching!
Himeno seemed like a significant character to the story, to the cast. The story gave her a path moving forward, a path of growth and fulfillment, but then she dies. It's a reminder to what type of story this is and how it depicts a sense of realism not only with how character act but also the setting and fatality of guns. Himeno's death reminds us no matter how significant people might be in our lives. To the grand scheme of things, our lives are all insignificant and can be taken away just like that.
On the other hand, it's a double edged sword. Because if you kill characters too quickly or just as they start to develop too constantly, eventually the audience start getting less connected with the characters because they just know they'll die relatively soon. Plus you risk going to the end of the story without characters for the audience to care about because all the others died.
Give me everything The chapter where Aki explodes with blood after being cut by the katana just so happened to debut in the same issue of Jump as the Jujutsu Kaisen chapter where Yuji and Nobara both do a black flash. The interesting part of that is that both of those shots have similar composition, because they both are inspired by the same mangaka, Hiroaki Samura, who was known for panels showing people bursting with blood.
@@Todd-Alquist lmao the biggest difference between the two is that Chainsaw Man shot the characters, but Bleach also shot its story in the head multiple times. Bleach doesn't even live up to its own hype, let alone Chainsaw Man's.
Give me everything When you said it is interesting that Aki's sword is actually a nail then suddenly it clicked within me. Nail is just this iconic image for curse in japanese show (Aki called the sword "curse") And if you look at the blade devil/fiend man before he is "dead" on the ground, I am pretty sure he was crucified to show the actual "cursed" image. The aesthetics pretty sick
Regarding why the fox is generally friendly to people. I think it's because in Japan, fox is generally seen as god or any kind of monster that is equivalent to god. There are lots of Japanese folklore with fox as the most noble and strong "yokai" (monster) or "god". Hundreds of shrines in Japan have the fox (O- inari-san) as the god, like Inari Shrines. So at least in Japan, "the idea of fox" is "the symbol of god", which is scary and strong but also very much loved by people. I think this take is not too far off since the design of Aki's fox is pretty much how Japanese fox god looks like. The fox gods in Japan have white fur and their eye shapes are like Aki's fox's ones. Try searching "Inari Fox God" images and you will easily find all the Japanese fox god images. I'm adding some other trivia too. These are not spoilers, just general Japanese culture knowledge that any Japanese watcher would think about when watching this episode. 1. There are lots of snake gods in Japan too. In general, fox gods are stronger than snake gods, and usually, fox gods are "good" and snake gods are "evil" but not always. 2. Aki's sword was not "a sword" and it was "a nail." The reason that was used for the "curse devil" is probably because in Japan, "the idea of nails" includes "curses". One of the most popular method of "curse" in Japan is "Ushi no koku mairi" (=Ushi no toki mairi) which uses nails and straw dolls. This curse is a curse to actually harm/kill people and you put someone's hair or body part in the straw doll and hammer that doll with metal nails. This popular method of curse is also the original idea of Kugisaki's way to fight in Jujutsu Kaisen.
Give me everything. Small note from the manga that may be really hard to notice in the anime: when Himeno offers all of herself, there is a panel of the mouth in the Ghost Devil hand starting to smile before activating. A reminder that even though some Devils might cooperate with you, in the end they will gladly consume you if given the chance.
[ Give me everything ] The reason why the katana man's companion, the snake girl didnt use it earlier was maybe bcus they really want denji's heart after all. otherwise if she did she'd be in trouble i feel like. also i love how fujimoto the author depicts guns, it shows how powerful guns actually can be. like you dont see this in every show or anime, i really like the realistic approach and how the world building is going you dont just get splattered with burst of explanation of what it is by the first few chapters.
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand Himeno’s character. She tried on several attempts to save Aki from seeking revenge and possibly becoming a victim himself. In the end, she could only sacrifice herself in hopes that he lives a long life. Such a good person!
Give me everything. When I read this part in the manga a while back, I didn’t really care about Himeno, but Mappa did such an amazing job with their adaption and addition that I felt way more invested with Himeno’s character and felt much more saddened with her death.
@@Todd-Alquist lol spoken like someone who hasn't read the manga, Yhwach is ultimately a very shallow character. He is just a static character who fits his role well.
@@Todd-Alquist Is life in France really so boring at 8:30PM that you have nothing better to do than spam the same comment on everything? Laisse tomber, dude. 😆
@@Todd-Alquist If you like that more, good for you. I'm not here to have a discussion about which one is better. Each one have their good and bad things
Give me everything Curse is definitely more clear in the manga. When Aki tells it "now", a finger comes in from OUTSIDE THE PANEL and flicks the nail into the target.
“Give me Everything” During Aki's fight, whenever he said "now" you'd see the curse devil summon a finger to flick the nail(sword) into the enemy. Also the poking someone with a nail 3 times method of attack is definitely a reference to stabbing a vodoo doll to inflict harm on someone
GIVE ME EVERYTHING: one of the reasons I love fujimotos works is how nonstandard his way of telling his narratives can be ,and how you can perfectly comfortably about how things are and then boom, death and destruction. Everything has consequences, Denjis past has caught up to him , what he thought he has left behind is now back to destroy everything he’s been “gifted”. Loving seeing your faces of shock and awe
Give me everything. Himeno saying that Aki cries a lot when his rookies die, is the same reason why Aki beat the shit out of Denji in episode 2, he thought that he was just a naive kid and that he was basically useless and incapable of being a devil hunter. So he beat him up in order to make him quit, to save him from death.
“Give me everything” First Off all i just gotta Say, am i the only one who thinks katana man sorta looks similar to Jotaro ? The cap and everything and long cout. But in all seriousness i don t know if you noticed But when Aki was fighting the katana man, every time he landed a stab on him you can clearly see Aki’s sword devil hand appear near Aki and see how the hand flicked the back of the Nail to just propel Aki’s stab with great power and speed for a devastating impact. Love the way that nail ( as a weapon ) was used.
Give me everything A very interesting thing I noticed is that the girl who appeared out of nowhere had snake eyes and Kobeni has white pupils as well. Most probably connected to their devil's contracts, so before I was guessing Makima was half Devil like Denji or the Sword/blade guy because of her eyes but it may be because of her Devil Contract as well.
Some of my observations (might be thinking too much into somethings) -To me it gave me the vibe that Denji essentially paid for Katana mans childhood. Denji was making money to survive while katana man was getting spoiled, thus making me believe the money denji made wet to him -The difference between Denji and Katana Man design is very interesting to me. Denji has sharp randomly placed teeth while Katana man has clean and straight. Which I believe represents further the different upbringing. Also Katana Man looks like hes wearing a military uniform -i love the way Aki uses the Sword. When he says "now", a devil hand suddenly appears to flick it forward. Kinda reminds me of a Gun funny enough -The curse devils activation is very clearly a crucifixion. Which is honestly very cool imagery because it uses a nail in order to use. I also like how its an abstract fear, curses are something people dont really think about -The snake appeared suddenly and left instantly, which could be playing off that snakes are ambush hunters. Striking fast and leaving fast with no warning. It also only did a single big attack And Katana man is just a fan name for the sword guy because his name was never given
Correction: Power isn't too chaotic to use Denji. She's too chaotic to use Denji the same way everyone else is. Everyone else is playing the long game with ya boi. Power will just tell him to do something for whatever reason so long as it benefits her, and might also try to help him as well if it looks like it'll help her get what she wants. She's a very short term manipulator compared to the others.
"Give me everything" 😢 I think it's very impactful what Himeno says about Aki crying. I take it as: our lives don't seem to matter to anyone, so we need a person like you who values us and grieves our deaths... that's why you need to survive. Coming from the same girl who once said coldly about her dead partners: "they just died because they were weak"
"Give me everything" Just to clear a few legitimate misunderstandings: -Summoning the Snake devil did have a cost (you might see it on episode 9), but similarly to the Fox, it just wasn't noticeable yet. -Little riding red hood did no use a special power to resurrect Katana Man, she just gave him some blood or pulled his "ripcord" like others have done for Denji. Also listening to your theories is always really cool, wether you are an inch away from the truth or entertainingly wrong.
enjoyed your commentary! this ep definitely added on to the world building of the show in the sense that devil hunter's lives are short and the field itself is highly dangerous, with himeno's death i think on top of it being just tragic also contributes to the running theme that a devil hunter has to have some screws loose in order to livelong in this field or even be an actual threat to devils. while she slowly does disregard her life through subtle things such as drinking, smoking which ultimately leads her to making many mistakes, she can't help but cling on to the humanity, which is why she never wants aki to die, she keeps visiting her buddies' graves...it is himeno's own humanity and love and attachment she has towards aki that brings her own undoing. as much as she tries to be desensitized to death (i.e. the facade she keeps during high stress situations, or her laughing over newbie deaths) , she can't bc himeno cares so deeply for her own buddy, but while this is something that causes her death, himeno dies happy bc she knows upon death, she won't have to suffer through the grief of losing aki, and bc she knows aki will love her, grieve her and cherish her memory. and ppl may argue that himeno's death was for nothing, but himeno had 2 choices, which was watch aki die while she somehow lives, or sacrifice herself. Himeno is familiar to death, she's not scared of her own death as she is aki's and what himeno hates most of all is the grief that haunts her from losing everyone she works with, so ofc she'd rather die to save aki, not only bc she thinks she can stall aki's death but bc she won't have to mourn him and blame herself, she'll die knowing she gave her all, knowing that aki will cry for her. also think it's rlly cool how the ghost devil's design correlates with himeno. majority of the himeno flashbacks have either been at the grave site or with aki, and the ghost devil's design is literally based off of a grave site...the flowers, the multiple hands of the dead beneath the flowers, and a smiling peaceful corpse as it's head. himeno dying by being consumed by the ghost devil is interesting cause it means that grief, her trauma, that fear, consumed her and she is now a ghost that haunts aki and the cycle will continue. ALSO loved the shot in the ed of himeno literally in a grave naked holding herself in a vulnerable position, you could say that was where she was mentally the entire time, just waiting to die, but only living to see aki thrive.
Give me everything I feel like Himeno's death is very important from a story standpoint, as this is the part where the series truly establishes that it is NOT a story that's going to be pulling its punches.
"Give me everything" If I remember correctly, Fujimoto (the author) did say something along the lines of "don't get too attached to your characters, kill your favorites when you have the chance" once.
I think with the Katana Man, he just like his grandpa. I think he genuinely want revenge to Denji and saw the opportunity to gain more power by establishing an alliance with the Gun Devil, powerhungry just like his grandpa
I found about you guys through chainsaw man subreddit. I'm not much of a fan of reaction videos, but I really liked this. The discussions you guys have are great. Looking forward to more chainsaw man content form you!
reallly great discussion its like a podcast about chainsaw man after the episode, i loved it, and i can't wait for next week (1-2 days haha) thanks for a good video ^_^
Give me everything... One of the things that i would like to attract more attention to is what makima said a few eps back, how powerful a devil is based on how scary it is or seems. She doesn't mention anything about popularity of the fears tho which i think is the reason the snake devil is more powerful than the ghost, as imo the idea of ghosts isn't something that's easily interpreted and probably less common than the idea of some real animal which can sneak in on you and kill you in an instant. I wonder what you guys think of that, bit of a long one but i hope it gets chosen. These reactions have been amazing, keep it up. ^_^
Give me everything. With gun manufacturing and selling becoming so strictly regulated in this world, you gotta wonder where the guns came from. Like, if the Yakuza had lots of guns, you’d think they’d use them to hunt devils for the black market themselves, it’s a massive source of income for them. But they use contractors like Denji. I think it’s most likely the Gun Devil literally makes contracts with people to give them guns, I bet the terms are generous too, like it only makes the Gun stronger even if it asks for nothing in return. Also interested in the model of guns used, I’m not a gun expert so I could be wrong, but they all looked like M1911’s to me, one of the longest lived and reliable pistols in history. It’s almost the platonic ideal of a gun. Like if someone told you to picture a rifle, you’re probably thinking about an M4 or AK, if you imagined a pistol, that’s the image.
@@Todd-Alquist bro…… who asked? Like what a really weird & unprovoked comment. No one is talking about Bleach? How old are you? Do you wake up everyday intrude other people’s conversations in real life and just yell out “bLeAcH bEtEtEr” ? What’s wrong with you?
Give me everything. It looked like to me like it was a rock papers scissors problem. Himeno's ghost could overwhelm and almost defeat the katana man but got taken out by snake lady, while Aki's curse didn't work on katana man, it may be because he looks to be the same thing denji is, Aki might've had better results if he instead attacked the snake girl instead. But ultimately that's how the dice rolled, Himeno wouldn't have sacrificed herself if she didnt see Aki's moves fail, while the snake girl probably sent the more durable katana man to reveal and tank their abilities. Over all I think katana man appearing alone initially was an intelligent decision if we consider that he seems to be as durable as Denji is.
Give me everything I love how well thought out the power levels of the devils are in terms of how much certain things are feared. The fox is seemingly more powerful than the leech, but the ghost is evidently stronger than the fox, and the snake is stronger than the ghost. It also makes perfect sense that something as abstract as an eternity devil that isn't particularly feared would need a piece of the gun to become strong. Now I'm left waiting for the Fire, Darkness, Death, Ocean, Forest, Human, and maybe even just a general Fear Devil. Also, given all of this, my only question for Caleb is: Spider Devil when? I think we've already got our hint as to Makima's state. After all, if she drank so much without really feeling it, I get the sense that she's more akin to a Demon Slayer demon than a devil, and I would not be surprised in the slightest at this point if she could just regrow her own head Reiner/Yushiro style. Edit: Also the Storm Devil would be neat. Edit Edit: I love the gun granny, and the girl might not have two contracts. The Snake could have healing abilities a la rod of Asclepius.
Holy shit this episode. Gun Terrorism, A devil human that resembles Denji, the Curse Devil, and Himenos Goodbye... I mean atleast we avoided the crime of s*xually abusing a minor, so silver lining.
[Give me everything] The little monologue the yakuza grandson gives about how his grandfather was a "Good Yakuza" is often considered to be a reference to another Shonen Jump series called Nisekoi. In that series, the main character has a grandfather in the yakuza and said something along the lines of his clan "being a good yakuza that protects the town". This line of logic got meme'd to hell in the Japanese fandom and some suspect the author of inserting the diatribe about how the good yakuza "only killed a handful of women and children" here as a takedown
"Give me everything" In regards to the attack on Denji's group and specifically the weirdness of sword-man's words and motivations, it's important to remember that Denji isn't seen as just one entity in this world he's seen as two: Denji and Pochita. We've seen by now that there are a number of devils that want Denji's heart (A.K.A Pochita) with the eternity devil and now the gun devil while not really caring about Denji. so while sword-man's job is to take Denji's heart to the gun devil, sword-man only really cares about getting revenge on Denji, and Denji doesn't need to be alive to have his heart delivered.
“Give me everything.” Given that swords guy is the new cool ranch flavor of Devil Hybrid just like Denji, then the Gun Devil would be after him too if this was about their shared condition. He could be planning to offer Denji up as an appeasement to save his own skin, but the fact that he specified Denji’s heart (the exact organ that Pochita replaced) makes me think that this is about Pochita. The Eternity Devil blabbering on about how far “Chainsaw” has fallen means this would give us a second Devil with a personal vendetta against the Chainsaw Devil. This begs the question of when, why, and how the tiny chainsaw dog earned their ire, and I think Makima might know the answer. Makima refuses to tell us why she’s so interested in Denji, and she hasn’t shown nearly as much interest in Power despite the two of them displaying about the same level of promise as combatants. Something tells me her interest isn’t just an academic curiosity about new things.
Give me everything Something I saw you two confused about was fiends and devil hunters. Makima explains in EP2 that Aki's devil Hunter division is experimental, hence trying to use fiends and devil-hybrids for devil hunting. The welcoming party in EP7 consists of all the members of Aki's division, hence why there should have been another fiend, but was too crazy to attend. Something to remember is that when Denji and Power were patrolling, if they came across private devil hunters or police, they specifically had to identify which division they are affiliated with, because fiends are usually killed on sight by Devil hunters.
Katana man is definitely one of the better characters, if not for the content of his character but for his impact and his concept. He's Denji's foil being on the recieving end of the Yakuza vs paying them, and uses a precise fighting style vs Chainsawman's chaotic swipes. Everythign about the events transpiring with his intro shift the series indefinitely
Give me everything. I absolutely love the Snake devils design. You mentioned the arms it but it wasn't 100% clear in the anime how the Snakes maw looked. The Snake devils maw is basically two people holding each other with the many arms hugging the other side of the maw, while it culminates with two human heads, almost like kissing but their faces replaced with teeth.
Give me everything. The moment I found out that TK "the Unravel man" himself is gonna be doing an ED for this show and the title of the song is gonna be "First Death" I knew it's gonna be for the very first huge emotional/tragic episode but I still didn't expect this.
"Give me everything" One of the things that I love about Fujimoto's incredible art and design work on Chainsaw Man is how all the Devils we get to see the full forms of have this fantastic body-horror theming to them. Devils are born of human fear, and Fujimoto gives them all some element of twisted human form, regardless of the concept they represent. The first devil we see is the Tomato Devil, and it has too many eyes, is sprouting limbs, and has a grotesque vertical mouth. The Eternity Devil is an endless mass of flesh with horrible heads, mouths, and hands all flowing into one another like John Carpenter's The Thing. The Snake Devil has a monstrously creative head made of interlocking arms. It really underscores the idea that they are derived from and are a dark reflection of humanity.
every person they went after was a member of the fourth squad, which means they all most likely had devil contracts or were fiends so the point of the guns was to take out the threat before they can react with their abilities. Second just because we only see the sword guy and snake girl didnt mean the rest dont have abilities, his was simply the only hit to not go successfully that we could see(most likely because of the personal grudge and monologue) and so he had to use his abilities as back up. and lastly notice they only said to proceed with the operation once they thought for sure they got makima, meaning she was by far the biggest threat that they needed to take out without her powers being used or the rest of the operation wasnt possible
himeno earned all the respect in that last scene, sacrificing everything to give aki a chance and with that ost it was perfect, at the end she only gave love and wanted to receive the same from the other person, this anime is better every week,, by the way when aki buries the nail, you can see that it is actually curse because you can see his finger.
Give me everything. I'm sure you will notice soon a 0-100 tendency which leaves you speechless. This is in Chainsaw Man and Fujimoto's other works like Fire Punch, Goodbye Eri, etc. I think this sudden pacing is an amazing move on the author's part as it emphasizes the shock, horror, and displays of overwhelming power that are shown in his writing style. They enhance the reading of Fujimoto's other works but feel like they were made perfectly for Chainsaw Man.
Give me everything. Fun fact: in the manga, the yakuza son sword guy actually says "The Gun Devil says it wants your heart," before shooting everyone. So this guy *is* working with the Gun Devil.
Give me everything. so a fun thing I wanna bring up that I don'tthink is spoilery: apparently the "sword man" who attacks everyone is never actually formally named in the story. A recap page gives him the title of "samurai Sword", while more popularly the fans took to calling him another name due to how obviously he's meant to parralel denji: Katana Man.This latter name is what you'll see like EVERYONE call him to the point I thought it actually was his official name before I found out otherwise.
I think you're the first reaction channel which I have seen where someone talks about the fact of Himeno and Aki using the best of their abilities and still being powerless against the snake girl and the katana dude. Like, that hit so hard for me
25:18 But that happens in real-world Japan as well, civilians don't carry guns. As well as most other countries like my country of Romania, people don't carry guns except police and criminals. America, Canada and I heard Switzerland are very into civilans carrying guns.
The fox devil's view point on making more contacts is most likely rooted in Asian mythology and culture as the fox spirit is often revered in the East and is generally regarded as a friendly spirit. Just found the channel though and excited to watch future reactions! Great show thus far.
“Give me everything” Fujimoto has gone on record to say that Berserk is a series that he really enjoys, so an event that is essentially his version of The Eclipse makes a lot of sense Minor and major characters die in a way that’s out of the blue, and the horror wraps up with one of the main characters’ futile attempt to stop another main character’s torment
Give me everything. A small detail I'd like to point out: the group did hear the gunshots but they didn't recognize them. They thought it was the sound of taiko drums but they didn't even consider any kind of training or violent crime involving guns. It was previously mentioned how guns are heavily censored on media, but devil hunters (and the police who they are working with) are supposedly allowed to use them. And yet even the people who are allowed guns don't know how a gunshot sounds. If Public Safety, a structure under the government, doesn't use guns, why do yakuza have them?
Give me everything There's a decent possibility that the snake girl didn't revive the katana man on her own, maybe like how denji and be revved up, katana man probably also has some form of "trigger" to revv?blade? him back up?
Give me everything. This is most definitely the turning point of the series, the moment that tells the audience that anyone can die. I am unsure if they are going to show it next episode or not, but just in case it does, the cost of using the Snake Devil is actually very small. This episode also reinforces the idea that the devil "hybrids," for lack of a better term, taste very different from both humans and devils, as seen previously with the Bat Devil.
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. WHAT. It's episode 8, what is even happening right now?!??
If you want to see the full-length timer version of the reaction, check out our Patreon: www.patreon.com/semblanceofsanity
It's Gurren Lagann all over again xD
Haha chainsaw go brrr
Painsaw Man begins now
I haven't noticed anyone else bring this up so far, but the overhead shot of the "sword guy" with his blood pooling out in the middle of the white rooftop looks EXACTLY like the Japanese flag. I still don't know to this day what Fujimoto was doing there. Because it's a PERFECT circle. It's definitely intentional.
@@RabidDogma I went back and checked the manga, but it's not a perfect circle there, just a generic 'blob' shape and it's cropped in one panel and more oval shaped in another. The overhead shot of Sawatari reviving katanaman is anime-only. The overall shot does look a LOT like the Japanese flag though in the Anime though, it's at like 18 minutes, 15 seconds into the episode, for anyone who wants to check.
Episode Start: "Will Denji get laid?"
Episode End: "Wait, is anyone still alive?"
Part 1 end : is someone alive!!
the tonal shift of this episode was so good.
3:10 The Fox Devil resides in Kyoto, which is also where the shrine of the fox god is. It could've been worshipped as a god for centuries, hence why its friendly towards humans.
Also it likes when humans call it to eat lesser demons, it's a human-dog relationship, of course he's much more than that though
@@bunnythebunbalboa It's a she.
@@ivansyomkin2156 techno devil's don't have genders, and the fox devil's female pronouns are never stated in the manga.
But yeah, the VA is a she.
@@ivansyomkin2156 it's a devil
@@egyedgergo8904 and?
SoS: Our main three are fine.
Denji: *Literally shot in the head*
Hes got the pochita hack, he'll be fiiiiiiine, just needs some milk (blood)
Does he know 🤓
Aki: "Denji can walk it off."
He's literally been chopped up into pieces and had his neck snapped like a twig.
What is SoS?
In case you have missed, the ghost devil gave a little smirk after Himeno pleaded to give her life saving Aki. It proves Himeno does not have her screws loose, and let her fear of losing Aki take over. Remember that devil in nature wish for a death of human.
wow nice catch, i have read the manga more than 10 times (i love csm so much) but didnt know that detail
thank you
It as Khishibe said, the sane ones die first.
Denjis devil never tries to kill him though, and even saves his life
But its been shown that Himeno is a very flawed character.
And so begins the true pain. Welcome to Painsaw man boys.
Next up depressawn man
@@NUCL3AR991 Then after that is Education man
Yep. chapter 21, this episode, is the real start of CSM. weird and creepy devils and characters, death everywhere. just a wild ride till the end.
@@Heavenly_Spirit1 Then after is school massacre man
It begins
Ah, yes.... From here on Fujimoto started levitating and did not touch the grass until part 1 of manga ended...
Only to just immediately jump to space and made something so mindbending i just cant say anything about than just good.
Yes im talking about look back and goodbye eri.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist least toxic bleach fan, like damn i like bleach but stfu christ
@@Todd-Alquistwhy are you here then? This a Chainsaw Man reaction video.
@@ants237 He commented this on every comment in the video. He just really wants attention.
Tbf Himeno already was clearly dying, she just tried to make her death mean something by giving her entire body to the Ghost devil which made it more powerful. Unfortunately it wasn’t enough to win, but we do know her sacrifice was at least able to keep the attackers preoccupied. Hopefully that ends up meaning something 🤷♀️ Himeno’s whole death scene was just so well done and honestly really sad. Massive props to Fujimoto
at least she was able to protect aki Sadge
Good way to go out. Just sucks she forgot that she can pull Denji's chain like she did during the eternity fight.
We don't have enough world building before this episode to really know who's capable of surviving which wounds.
Yes, Himeno was shot and she coughed blood, but we've been baited with a few gory "deaths" and blood as early as the 1st ep so the 1st time watcher is primed to suspend judgement on which deaths are final.
The only certain death "hints" that I've noticed so far after a few watches are the stylistic differences between Makima's and Himeno's deaths. Makima's death was too anticlimactic for a central character that still had so many loops to close and motivations to reveal, while Himeno's was beautifully done and prefaced with death flags (in past eps).
We know her arc could just end and land gracefully on ep 8 because she's just been fleshed out.
@@markmywords3817 I mean she's human, most human characters in CSM wont survive alot of wounds. Tatsuki Fujimoto makes it clear how fragile human characters are, many, many times.
Everyone that isn't a demon goes out of commision with a single good hit.
Give me everything. Quotes from an interview with the author.
“I understand why people get attached to their work, but if you spend all day staring at your own story, you’re bound to lose that essential objectivity. Don’t fall too in love with anything you do. Kill your darlings.”
“I try to create scenes that readers will remember until the day they gasp their dying breath.”
I think this episode embodies that mindset pretty well.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
That second statement goes hard
"Kill your darlings" is not usually quite this literal. 😆
@@Todd-Alquist lol no
@@Todd-Alquist
This is your alt account right?
Copy and pasting this opinion in every comment section is pathetic.
"Everyone wants a piece of denji" is so on point
😔 do they
Everyone wants the Chainsaw Man's heart, but no one want Denji's :(
@@douglascostateixeira8265 exactly! can't wait for this part to be animated
@@Vikilumi next season definitely. when is the question
@@usakenvi who knows maybe the whole reze arc could be a movie, it's the perfect length.
"Give me everything"
The sword hybrid is never given a name in the manga as noone ever calls him by one (which is weird considering how important he is)
The Promotional material refers to him as "Samurai sword" but we, the fandom, have collectively agreed that is a really lame name so we all just call him "Katana Man"
Also theres a design thing I love about him, his transformation comes with a cool Hat.
Senor Dash n Slash
Ah yes, one of the three genders: She/her, They/Them, Cool Hat!
Machete Mister
This episode was insane. My mind went blank for a full minute when it ended.
Also, no one believes that Makima is dead, right? I mean, it's just a headshot.
just a HEADSHOT, not a big deal 😂 lmao
I think this might be a show where dying isn’t permanent. I think Makima is probably dead, but it likely doesn’t matter. I guess worst case scenario you can sell your Devil your soul, if that’s possible.
@@fireheart8878 did you not read the manga.... Ah well... They are humans, they die..
@@fireheart8878
"I think this might be a show where dying isn’t permanent."
It's hilarious that you think that.
Problem for anime onlies is that Makima is too popular a character for people to think she just dies like that.
Give me everything.
Since you talked about Aki needing a hammer to go with his nail:
The Curse Devil's sword has an inbuilt "hammer". If you rewatch all the nailpierces that Aki landed on the assailant then you can see that a giant demon finger always pops up behind the nailsword to "hammer" (i.e. flick) it into Aki's specified target at the time. Aki also always says "now", "fire" or "shoot" whenever he has the nailsword in position to hit the assailant.
A really cool detail regarding this is that in the Manga chapter for this fight the finger of the Curse Devil actually reached from outside the panels of the Manga into the panels where it flicks the nail for Aki. That was a very creative and meta way for Fujimoto to show how otherworldly this devil is to his readers. It's a shame that the Anime couldn't really replicate that - some people said that a real human finger coming from offscreen or something could have evoked a similar feeling but I feel like that would have been too meta and immersion breaking for a lot of watchers of the Anime.
Here is how it looked in the Manga if you want to see it for yourself:
i.imgur.com/RrVvAwg.png
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
I did like that in the manga. I was hoping maybe they would letterbox the fight for that to maybe get the same effect.
To add to that, hammering a nail into a strawdoll is the way cursing someone is symbolized in Japan. See: Nobara from JJK, Pokemon attack etc.
Could've maybe had the fight be in widescreen and have the finger come from outside the black border? Just an idea idk.
@@Todd-Alquist even using google i wasn't able to find who the fuck asked.
Fun fact: Aki’s nail (sword) and Nobara’s nail (JJK) are both base on a Japanese cursing ritual, where the practitioner goes to a shrine in the middle of the night (1-3 am), and nails a straw doll representing the target to a sacred tree.
The ritual needs to be performed 7 days in a row, which is why there’s usually some kind of countdown.
Welcome to what people refer to as "Chainsaw Man pacing"...though it fits Fujimoto as an author more in general. If you haven't noticed,he doesn't like to stay in a spot for too long,and is always jumping from idea to idea without a care in the world. Which is why the attack on Public Safety works so well: it sneaks up on the characters just as much as it does for the viewers. The shock is palpable. In a recent interview,he said: "I understand why people get attached to their work, but if you spend all day staring at your own story,you're bound to lose that essential objectivity. Don't fall too in love with anything you do. Kill your darlings!"
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist Thanks for telling me your opinion by putting down another thing, Monsoon! Loved you in MGR!
@@Todd-Alquist no one asked bro
@@Todd-Alquist I swear I've seen both OP's and your exact comments on another vid
@@Todd-Alquist MEME THE DNA OF THE SOUL
This is how I interpreted the grandson's actions. I believe his primary motivation to be vengeance against Denji, blaming him for his grandfather's death, despite the whole business with the Zombie Devil. Additionally, remember that the grandfather in the first episode talked about how Public Safety gets in the way of Yakuza when it comes to devils. These two organizations were already at odds. The grandson gets revenge, the Yakuza get a thorn out of their side, and they get in the favor of the Gun Devil by delivering something it wants. The grandson has personal motivation, but the professional benefits are what he gives to his people to justify their involvement and support in this operation.
yhwach is a better written character than himeno
@@Todd-Alquist I think you might've replied to the wrong comment on accident.
@@Todd-Alquist Hard disagree. Ywawch is a brutal king with a grudge against the soul society who explicitly does not care about his minions at all while feeding them bs religious rhetoric and literally leeching off of others. He never really grows as a character and his motivations are very unclear as the whole "son of the soul king" thing is never explored at all.
Himeno is a girl who has lost people over and over again due to the brutality of life as a Devil Hunter and been devastated by it coping with drinks and smoking, and desperately clinging to Aki her last living partner. That leads to her getting to know him better both becoming an influence on his life, helping build Aki's character to the audience, and falling in love with him as she sees him never lose his hummanity in the face of the same brutality she faces. That very love tragically leads to her giving her life to save him, her only consolation being that as long as he lives there will at least be someone who mourns her. Himeno has all of that in a fraction of the screen time that Ywach had.
@@Todd-Alquist Poor dude seems to be lost. I think you belong to the Bleach sub.
You should edit your comment with the phrase so they can reply to it in the next video!
This fight specifically sets a very good example for the malevolent nature of devil contracts, you could see the ghost give a tiny smirk when himeno offered herself for this fight because it fully knew this was a futile attempt and it kind of egged her on hoping to see her fail and to try to fuck her over.
And as the master said, she died because she acted too rationally, she got shook and she put up everything to try and protect the person she cares about.
Had she been more unhinged she could probably make it out of this situation alive.
But it's a good lesson to establish that just because you have a contract with a devil, doesn't mean they are your friend.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist L
Yeah actually im kinda disappointed that the anime didnt make Ghost's smirk more obvious. The manga literally had 3 panels of Ghost's mouth went from normal to a joyful smile, so its obvious Ghost was waiting for it.
I generally get the feeling that she was not going to make it out of there with that gunshot wound anyway. No way to get her any medical assistance. It was do and/or die.
She could have revived Denji though immediately. That would have stacked up some of their odds.
@@Squiddyize I assume it was because of her selfish desire to have Aki cry for her, she figured that if she was the one to save the day, it'd be more impactful
"Give me everything"
28:05 Actually in the manga (and other sub versions of this episode) Katana Man never said that he just "hears" the gun devil wants his heart, but rather its just a straight up "The Gun Devil wants your heart."
yea the sub they are going with was a terrible one
less impactful overall and the himeno dialogues were completely ruined man i feel bad for her
it was " ghost, i will give you all of me, so give me all of you "
but the sub was a diff one sadge
Nah, the translation is fine.
[CSM ep8 15:15] 銃の悪魔はてめえの心臓が欲しいんだとよ
The だとよ on the end makes it quite clear that he's speaking secondhand.
@@doublex85 yeah, i wouldve TL as "Did you know the Gun Devil wants your heart?", which is still pretty close to what the subs said.
However for me though, i didnt read too much into it. i thought the guy just cares about revenge so Gun Devil came second to him.
@@catjamcultist That is so hyperbolic of you :P
You can have preferences for different subs based on how it impacts you, but this is definitely not "terrible sub everything is ruined" lol
Looking at the original Japanese lines, the fact of the matter is no English translation can capture all the nuisances, and the translators have to err to one side or another when translating to English. If you really are so obsessively fixated on "the best" take then learn Japanese and watch it without subs lol
1 day has passed and I am still in a state of denial. This episode was beautiful and totally insane.
i saw this episode and immediately went to read the manga LMAOO i’m almost caught up to the recent chapter
fr hope Kobeni is alright, Makima maybe be dead dead but maybe not
@@crescentlust6113 man how many tears have been shed?
@@crescentlust6113 and also how did you feel about
Darkness devil scene, aka my favorite scene in recent years
@@benzohhhhh oh hell yeah. so many fan animations of that scene too. theyre so creative the
Give me everything. When Himeno resolves herself to sacrifice everything to save Aki, we've heard the music that plays there before: in the first episode, when Denji's finding his own resolve to fight back against the Zombie Devil and his history of being exploited. Little synth notes, bubbling up, making me feel a sense of clarity. It's a GRIM setting, but to me those meek little notes call out when our protagonists find their purpose and become actual heroes. Godspeed, Himeno.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist I like turtles
@@Todd-Alquist you seem lost
Welcome to Chainsaw Man!
we were finally blessed by Fujimoto sensei's signature warm welcome party, took a while tho, unlike his previous series :'v
*regarding the fox devil being friendly to humans, it's probably because of it's long existence with humans, I mean there are legends of the evil fox spirit from ancient china and japan, some fear the fox, others revere it
LIVE
Also that demon likes to eat, so it's in it's own interest to band with humans. But once you feed it something it doesn't like it ignores you and you can't call it again because it is mad at you, it's a very pet-like demon
@@dwarer3064 *insert Agni face*
And not to mention that contracts with Fox Devil look like this "you can summon me but in exchange I'm gonna eat some part of you every time you use me" so Fox gets both weaker demons as food and also some of humans' flesh and blood. It's win-win contract for Fox and easy ally for Devil Hunters.
@@dwarer3064 LIVE
"Give me Everything" - There were so many back-and-forths in that battle. It seems like in something like one-piece you'd have like 5 episodes, one where Aki first fights "Katana-man" and wins, another where Aki fights him a second time after red-hoodie revives him and loses, then one where himeno uses ghost and starts to win, then one more episode where the snake shows up and finishes it. Instead it's, like, bang-bang-bang.
if Toei animated Chainsaw man fight scenes will be atleast 5 episodes long 😂 like One Piece and DragonBall pacing
So stoked to hear your theories - as a manga reader, it’s really cool to see how people watching the show for the first time are thinking :D
It’s crazy how some of them are actually spot on
The prologue is over.
“Give me Everything”
One of the things this episode conveys very well is the concept of death, and how Fujimoto implements it into his stories. We are made very clear early on in this show that Devil Hunting is a job that comes with great risk, and that death is a commonality, sort of like something that just naturally comes with the job. Fujimoto writes death in a different approach from other mangaka, in the sense that death is not only swift, but it can come in and out unexpectedly at any moment, it doesn’t need too much of a build up for it to happen.
This episode sets that standard for you, and I hope you guys are prepared for what’s to come. Love your content, have fun watching!
Himeno seemed like a significant character to the story, to the cast. The story gave her a path moving forward, a path of growth and fulfillment, but then she dies. It's a reminder to what type of story this is and how it depicts a sense of realism not only with how character act but also the setting and fatality of guns. Himeno's death reminds us no matter how significant people might be in our lives. To the grand scheme of things, our lives are all insignificant and can be taken away just like that.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist i agree brother bleach is getting way better more people started watching from the soul society arc , I'm really happy brother 🤗
On the other hand, it's a double edged sword. Because if you kill characters too quickly or just as they start to develop too constantly, eventually the audience start getting less connected with the characters because they just know they'll die relatively soon. Plus you risk going to the end of the story without characters for the audience to care about because all the others died.
@@Todd-Alquist nobody cares what anime you think is better
Give me everything
The chapter where Aki explodes with blood after being cut by the katana just so happened to debut in the same issue of Jump as the Jujutsu Kaisen chapter where Yuji and Nobara both do a black flash. The interesting part of that is that both of those shots have similar composition, because they both are inspired by the same mangaka, Hiroaki Samura, who was known for panels showing people bursting with blood.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist lmao the biggest difference between the two is that Chainsaw Man shot the characters, but Bleach also shot its story in the head multiple times. Bleach doesn't even live up to its own hype, let alone Chainsaw Man's.
When Katanaman showed up and said "It's katana-time" and katana'd all over Aki, I knew this manga would be a masterpiece.
idk why but while reading this comment my mind was like: replace "katana" with "d*ck" and now we have the jojo fandom :')
@@etaweeb zesty ahh comment
you speak with such beauty i took you for a flower
I wonder when this is gonna die.
I was skeptical of this show, but after watching just the first episode it's already one of the anime ever made!
You guys are literally the best reactors out there. Your level of analysis and attention goes beyond every other reactor out there. Love your content!
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist I will respectfully disagree, although I'm glad you could find enjoyment and meaning in something I couldn't
@@mugsmcratmin6842 you're probably a boruto fanboy and you won't admit it
@Monsoon I've never met a single human being that actually liked boruto
Give me everything
When you said it is interesting that Aki's sword is actually a nail then suddenly it clicked within me. Nail is just this iconic image for curse in japanese show (Aki called the sword "curse") And if you look at the blade devil/fiend man before he is "dead" on the ground, I am pretty sure he was crucified to show the actual "cursed" image. The aesthetics pretty sick
@@jross7287 yes! Nobara's usage is more iconic because she has the puppet as well
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
Regarding why the fox is generally friendly to people. I think it's because in Japan, fox is generally seen as god or any kind of monster that is equivalent to god. There are lots of Japanese folklore with fox as the most noble and strong "yokai" (monster) or "god". Hundreds of shrines in Japan have the fox (O- inari-san) as the god, like Inari Shrines. So at least in Japan, "the idea of fox" is "the symbol of god", which is scary and strong but also very much loved by people. I think this take is not too far off since the design of Aki's fox is pretty much how Japanese fox god looks like. The fox gods in Japan have white fur and their eye shapes are like Aki's fox's ones. Try searching "Inari Fox God" images and you will easily find all the Japanese fox god images.
I'm adding some other trivia too. These are not spoilers, just general Japanese culture knowledge that any Japanese watcher would think about when watching this episode.
1. There are lots of snake gods in Japan too. In general, fox gods are stronger than snake gods, and usually, fox gods are "good" and snake gods are "evil" but not always.
2. Aki's sword was not "a sword" and it was "a nail." The reason that was used for the "curse devil" is probably because in Japan, "the idea of nails" includes "curses". One of the most popular method of "curse" in Japan is "Ushi no koku mairi" (=Ushi no toki mairi) which uses nails and straw dolls. This curse is a curse to actually harm/kill people and you put someone's hair or body part in the straw doll and hammer that doll with metal nails. This popular method of curse is also the original idea of Kugisaki's way to fight in Jujutsu Kaisen.
完璧な説明👍
Give me everything.
Small note from the manga that may be really hard to notice in the anime: when Himeno offers all of herself, there is a panel of the mouth in the Ghost Devil hand starting to smile before activating. A reminder that even though some Devils might cooperate with you, in the end they will gladly consume you if given the chance.
Kobeni's chekov's gun with her demon the main reason I think she's still alive. Makima just can't be dead, there's no way.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist AHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHHA
@@Todd-Alquist or you can just like both?
But noooopo, you gotta be edgy 🙄
@@cloberlobster2276 Pretty sure it is a bot spamming the comment
To be fair we just saw a chekov's gun fail with Aki's sword
[ Give me everything ]
The reason why the katana man's companion, the snake girl didnt use it earlier was maybe bcus they really want denji's heart after all. otherwise if she did she'd be in trouble i feel like.
also i love how fujimoto the author depicts guns, it shows how powerful guns actually can be. like you dont see this in every show or anime, i really like the realistic approach and how the world building is going you dont just get splattered with burst of explanation of what it is by the first few chapters.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist yea sure but who asked?
@@catjamcultist yhwach vs yamamoto made chainsaw man look like a joke
@@Todd-Alquist and?
@@Todd-Alquist this mfs life must be sad af man
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand Himeno’s character. She tried on several attempts to save Aki from seeking revenge and possibly becoming a victim himself. In the end, she could only sacrifice herself in hopes that he lives a long life. Such a good person!
kid named curse devil:
@@anti-mate407 ?
@@anti-mate407 stop it
RIP to our 🍺 drinking and 🚬 smoking queen, Himeno.
May she rest in peace 😭💔
The Painsaw Man Saga Begins
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist lmao
Give me everything.
When I read this part in the manga a while back, I didn’t really care about Himeno, but Mappa did such an amazing job with their adaption and addition that I felt way more invested with Himeno’s character and felt much more saddened with her death.
yhwach is a better written character than himeno
@@Todd-Alquist this is not twitter
@@Todd-Alquist huh??? who are you talking to?
@@Todd-Alquist ok...?? but who asked though?
@@Todd-Alquist lol spoken like someone who hasn't read the manga, Yhwach is ultimately a very shallow character. He is just a static character who fits his role well.
Welcome to Chainsaw Man's first actual story arc, this is just the beginning of the suffering
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist Is life in France really so boring at 8:30PM that you have nothing better to do than spam the same comment on everything? Laisse tomber, dude. 😆
@@Todd-Alquist If you like that more, good for you. I'm not here to have a discussion about which one is better. Each one have their good and bad things
@@Todd-Alquist No one's here to talk about Bleach, kid
@@hououinkyouma5372 least toxic chainsaw man fan , you're probably the kind of person who gets mad when bleach is first in the anime week ranking
Give me everything
Curse is definitely more clear in the manga. When Aki tells it "now", a finger comes in from OUTSIDE THE PANEL and flicks the nail into the target.
“Give me Everything”
During Aki's fight, whenever he said "now" you'd see the curse devil summon a finger to flick the nail(sword) into the enemy. Also the poking someone with a nail 3 times method of attack is definitely a reference to stabbing a vodoo doll to inflict harm on someone
Ah you guys are truly experiencing Fujimoto's style and pacing now :D
It's a fun and interesting time
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
GIVE ME EVERYTHING: one of the reasons I love fujimotos works is how nonstandard his way of telling his narratives can be ,and how you can perfectly comfortably about how things are and then boom, death and destruction. Everything has consequences, Denjis past has caught up to him , what he thought he has left behind is now back to destroy everything he’s been “gifted”. Loving seeing your faces of shock and awe
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-AlquistMans really commenting this on every post… love the maturity.
Give me everything.
Himeno saying that Aki cries a lot when his rookies die, is the same reason why Aki beat the shit out of Denji in episode 2, he thought that he was just a naive kid and that he was basically useless and incapable of being a devil hunter. So he beat him up in order to make him quit, to save him from death.
“Give me everything”
First Off all i just gotta Say, am i the only one who thinks katana man sorta looks similar to Jotaro ? The cap and everything and long cout. But in all seriousness i don t know if you noticed But when Aki was fighting the katana man, every time he landed a stab on him you can clearly see Aki’s sword devil hand appear near Aki and see how the hand flicked the back of the Nail to just propel Aki’s stab with great power and speed for a devastating impact. Love the way that nail ( as a weapon ) was used.
Love how they did Ghost taking all of Himeno, reminded me of that part in Looper
same
Give me everything
A very interesting thing I noticed is that the girl who appeared out of nowhere had snake eyes and Kobeni has white pupils as well.
Most probably connected to their devil's contracts, so before I was guessing Makima was half Devil like Denji or the Sword/blade guy because of her eyes but it may be because of her Devil Contract as well.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist Your mom is better
@@Todd-Alquist cool.
Was that enough attention?
this is what fujimoto pacing like
"Give me everything"
And *this* is why I like to say that the katana man arc is when CSM *truly* begins
Welcome to chainsaw man pacing. So glad you've joined us in this journey
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
welcome to chainsawman action
no build up
no warm up
no one safe
all in a few seconds
death
End of a season and second season will be fire
Some of my observations (might be thinking too much into somethings)
-To me it gave me the vibe that Denji essentially paid for Katana mans childhood. Denji was making money to survive while katana man was getting spoiled, thus making me believe the money denji made wet to him
-The difference between Denji and Katana Man design is very interesting to me. Denji has sharp randomly placed teeth while Katana man has clean and straight. Which I believe represents further the different upbringing. Also Katana Man looks like hes wearing a military uniform
-i love the way Aki uses the Sword. When he says "now", a devil hand suddenly appears to flick it forward. Kinda reminds me of a Gun funny enough
-The curse devils activation is very clearly a crucifixion. Which is honestly very cool imagery because it uses a nail in order to use. I also like how its an abstract fear, curses are something people dont really think about
-The snake appeared suddenly and left instantly, which could be playing off that snakes are ambush hunters. Striking fast and leaving fast with no warning. It also only did a single big attack
And Katana man is just a fan name for the sword guy because his name was never given
Correction: Power isn't too chaotic to use Denji. She's too chaotic to use Denji the same way everyone else is. Everyone else is playing the long game with ya boi. Power will just tell him to do something for whatever reason so long as it benefits her, and might also try to help him as well if it looks like it'll help her get what she wants. She's a very short term manipulator compared to the others.
"Give me everything" 😢
I think it's very impactful what Himeno says about Aki crying. I take it as: our lives don't seem to matter to anyone, so we need a person like you who values us and grieves our deaths... that's why you need to survive. Coming from the same girl who once said coldly about her dead partners: "they just died because they were weak"
"Give me everything"
Just to clear a few legitimate misunderstandings:
-Summoning the Snake devil did have a cost (you might see it on episode 9), but similarly to the Fox, it just wasn't noticeable yet.
-Little riding red hood did no use a special power to resurrect Katana Man, she just gave him some blood or pulled his "ripcord" like others have done for Denji.
Also listening to your theories is always really cool, wether you are an inch away from the truth or entertainingly wrong.
enjoyed your commentary! this ep definitely added on to the world building of the show in the sense that devil hunter's lives are short and the field itself is highly dangerous, with himeno's death i think on top of it being just tragic also contributes to the running theme that a devil hunter has to have some screws loose in order to livelong in this field or even be an actual threat to devils. while she slowly does disregard her life through subtle things such as drinking, smoking which ultimately leads her to making many mistakes, she can't help but cling on to the humanity, which is why she never wants aki to die, she keeps visiting her buddies' graves...it is himeno's own humanity and love and attachment she has towards aki that brings her own undoing. as much as she tries to be desensitized to death (i.e. the facade she keeps during high stress situations, or her laughing over newbie deaths) , she can't bc himeno cares so deeply for her own buddy, but while this is something that causes her death, himeno dies happy bc she knows upon death, she won't have to suffer through the grief of losing aki, and bc she knows aki will love her, grieve her and cherish her memory.
and ppl may argue that himeno's death was for nothing, but himeno had 2 choices, which was watch aki die while she somehow lives, or sacrifice herself. Himeno is familiar to death, she's not scared of her own death as she is aki's and what himeno hates most of all is the grief that haunts her from losing everyone she works with, so ofc she'd rather die to save aki, not only bc she thinks she can stall aki's death but bc she won't have to mourn him and blame herself, she'll die knowing she gave her all, knowing that aki will cry for her. also think it's rlly cool how the ghost devil's design correlates with himeno. majority of the himeno flashbacks have either been at the grave site or with aki, and the ghost devil's design is literally based off of a grave site...the flowers, the multiple hands of the dead beneath the flowers, and a smiling peaceful corpse as it's head. himeno dying by being consumed by the ghost devil is interesting cause it means that grief, her trauma, that fear, consumed her and she is now a ghost that haunts aki and the cycle will continue. ALSO loved the shot in the ed of himeno literally in a grave naked holding herself in a vulnerable position, you could say that was where she was mentally the entire time, just waiting to die, but only living to see aki thrive.
Give me everything
I feel like Himeno's death is very important from a story standpoint, as this is the part where the series truly establishes that it is NOT a story that's going to be pulling its punches.
"Give me everything"
If I remember correctly, Fujimoto (the author) did say something along the lines of "don't get too attached to your characters, kill your favorites when you have the chance" once.
Give me everything.
Believe it or not but CSM is actually considered the tamer work by the mangaka.
I think with the Katana Man, he just like his grandpa. I think he genuinely want revenge to Denji and saw the opportunity to gain more power by establishing an alliance with the Gun Devil, powerhungry just like his grandpa
I found about you guys through chainsaw man subreddit. I'm not much of a fan of reaction videos, but I really liked this. The discussions you guys have are great. Looking forward to more chainsaw man content form you!
reallly great discussion its like a podcast about chainsaw man after the episode, i loved it, and i can't wait for next week (1-2 days haha) thanks for a good video ^_^
Give me everything...
One of the things that i would like to attract more attention to is what makima said a few eps back, how powerful a devil is based on how scary it is or seems. She doesn't mention anything about popularity of the fears tho which i think is the reason the snake devil is more powerful than the ghost, as imo the idea of ghosts isn't something that's easily interpreted and probably less common than the idea of some real animal which can sneak in on you and kill you in an instant. I wonder what you guys think of that, bit of a long one but i hope it gets chosen. These reactions have been amazing, keep it up. ^_^
FINALLY the only react crew to point out that Aki's life span has been cut in half using the sword.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@someguy9164 and another boruto fanboy
Give me everything.
With gun manufacturing and selling becoming so strictly regulated in this world, you gotta wonder where the guns came from. Like, if the Yakuza had lots of guns, you’d think they’d use them to hunt devils for the black market themselves, it’s a massive source of income for them. But they use contractors like Denji. I think it’s most likely the Gun Devil literally makes contracts with people to give them guns, I bet the terms are generous too, like it only makes the Gun stronger even if it asks for nothing in return. Also interested in the model of guns used, I’m not a gun expert so I could be wrong, but they all looked like M1911’s to me, one of the longest lived and reliable pistols in history. It’s almost the platonic ideal of a gun. Like if someone told you to picture a rifle, you’re probably thinking about an M4 or AK, if you imagined a pistol, that’s the image.
Fujimoto was pulling the rip cord until now. He lets it rip from here on out. Top notch job this episode.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist Go enjoy it then. You are the literal definition of a troll. Nothing worthwhile to say.
.....Now it begins
now for the true fujimoto experience
From here on out it’s truly just PAIN & MAYHEM nonstop
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist gahlee ur rlly on every comment 💀💀 u must rlly love bleach
@@Todd-Alquist bro…… who asked? Like what a really weird & unprovoked comment. No one is talking about Bleach? How old are you? Do you wake up everyday intrude other people’s conversations in real life and just yell out “bLeAcH bEtEtEr” ? What’s wrong with you?
RIP Makima, you were too good for this world. Now you get to step on all the lucky doggies in heaven :(
Himeno is better
@@smoker4156 no shes not.
@@GOJOpacklmaoo Ok...
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist if you think chainsaw man doesn't have deep meaning youve obviously never read it 💀
Give me everything.
It looked like to me like it was a rock papers scissors problem. Himeno's ghost could overwhelm and almost defeat the katana man but got taken out by snake lady, while Aki's curse didn't work on katana man, it may be because he looks to be the same thing denji is, Aki might've had better results if he instead attacked the snake girl instead.
But ultimately that's how the dice rolled, Himeno wouldn't have sacrificed herself if she didnt see Aki's moves fail, while the snake girl probably sent the more durable katana man to reveal and tank their abilities. Over all I think katana man appearing alone initially was an intelligent decision if we consider that he seems to be as durable as Denji is.
Give me everything
I love how well thought out the power levels of the devils are in terms of how much certain things are feared. The fox is seemingly more powerful than the leech, but the ghost is evidently stronger than the fox, and the snake is stronger than the ghost. It also makes perfect sense that something as abstract as an eternity devil that isn't particularly feared would need a piece of the gun to become strong. Now I'm left waiting for the Fire, Darkness, Death, Ocean, Forest, Human, and maybe even just a general Fear Devil. Also, given all of this, my only question for Caleb is: Spider Devil when?
I think we've already got our hint as to Makima's state. After all, if she drank so much without really feeling it, I get the sense that she's more akin to a Demon Slayer demon than a devil, and I would not be surprised in the slightest at this point if she could just regrow her own head Reiner/Yushiro style.
Edit: Also the Storm Devil would be neat.
Edit Edit: I love the gun granny, and the girl might not have two contracts. The Snake could have healing abilities a la rod of Asclepius.
Holy shit this episode. Gun Terrorism, A devil human that resembles Denji, the Curse Devil, and Himenos Goodbye...
I mean atleast we avoided the crime of s*xually abusing a minor, so silver lining.
[Give me everything]
The little monologue the yakuza grandson gives about how his grandfather was a "Good Yakuza" is often considered to be a reference to another Shonen Jump series called Nisekoi.
In that series, the main character has a grandfather in the yakuza and said something along the lines of his clan "being a good yakuza that protects the town". This line of logic got meme'd to hell in the Japanese fandom and some suspect the author of inserting the diatribe about how the good yakuza "only killed a handful of women and children" here as a takedown
"Give me everything"
In regards to the attack on Denji's group and specifically the weirdness of sword-man's words and motivations, it's important to remember that Denji isn't seen as just one entity in this world he's seen as two: Denji and Pochita.
We've seen by now that there are a number of devils that want Denji's heart (A.K.A Pochita) with the eternity devil and now the gun devil while not really caring about Denji.
so while sword-man's job is to take Denji's heart to the gun devil, sword-man only really cares about getting revenge on Denji, and Denji doesn't need to be alive to have his heart delivered.
“Give me everything.”
Given that swords guy is the new cool ranch flavor of Devil Hybrid just like Denji, then the Gun Devil would be after him too if this was about their shared condition. He could be planning to offer Denji up as an appeasement to save his own skin, but the fact that he specified Denji’s heart (the exact organ that Pochita replaced) makes me think that this is about Pochita. The Eternity Devil blabbering on about how far “Chainsaw” has fallen means this would give us a second Devil with a personal vendetta against the Chainsaw Devil.
This begs the question of when, why, and how the tiny chainsaw dog earned their ire, and I think Makima might know the answer. Makima refuses to tell us why she’s so interested in Denji, and she hasn’t shown nearly as much interest in Power despite the two of them displaying about the same level of promise as combatants. Something tells me her interest isn’t just an academic curiosity about new things.
Give me everything
Something I saw you two confused about was fiends and devil hunters. Makima explains in EP2 that Aki's devil Hunter division is experimental, hence trying to use fiends and devil-hybrids for devil hunting.
The welcoming party in EP7 consists of all the members of Aki's division, hence why there should have been another fiend, but was too crazy to attend.
Something to remember is that when Denji and Power were patrolling, if they came across private devil hunters or police, they specifically had to identify which division they are affiliated with, because fiends are usually killed on sight by Devil hunters.
A line from the ED 'First Death' - "Giving you a melty kiss, I dedicate my first death to you".
Fucking hell.
Katana man is definitely one of the better characters, if not for the content of his character but for his impact and his concept. He's Denji's foil being on the recieving end of the Yakuza vs paying them, and uses a precise fighting style vs Chainsawman's chaotic swipes. Everythign about the events transpiring with his intro shift the series indefinitely
I WAS WAITING FOR UR REACTION!!! Thank God it's finally here
Give me everything.
I absolutely love the Snake devils design. You mentioned the arms it but it wasn't 100% clear in the anime how the Snakes maw looked. The Snake devils maw is basically two people holding each other with the many arms hugging the other side of the maw, while it culminates with two human heads, almost like kissing but their faces replaced with teeth.
Give me everything. The moment I found out that TK "the Unravel man" himself is gonna be doing an ED for this show and the title of the song is gonna be "First Death" I knew it's gonna be for the very first huge emotional/tragic episode but I still didn't expect this.
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist Mate, the more you spam that, the less people are actually going to want to watch Bleach. Don't be a dick.
"Give me everything"
One of the things that I love about Fujimoto's incredible art and design work on Chainsaw Man is how all the Devils we get to see the full forms of have this fantastic body-horror theming to them. Devils are born of human fear, and Fujimoto gives them all some element of twisted human form, regardless of the concept they represent.
The first devil we see is the Tomato Devil, and it has too many eyes, is sprouting limbs, and has a grotesque vertical mouth. The Eternity Devil is an endless mass of flesh with horrible heads, mouths, and hands all flowing into one another like John Carpenter's The Thing. The Snake Devil has a monstrously creative head made of interlocking arms.
It really underscores the idea that they are derived from and are a dark reflection of humanity.
Massive props to Fujimoto and Mappa, what a fucking incredible episode.
every person they went after was a member of the fourth squad, which means they all most likely had devil contracts or were fiends so the point of the guns was to take out the threat before they can react with their abilities. Second just because we only see the sword guy and snake girl didnt mean the rest dont have abilities, his was simply the only hit to not go successfully that we could see(most likely because of the personal grudge and monologue) and so he had to use his abilities as back up. and lastly notice they only said to proceed with the operation once they thought for sure they got makima, meaning she was by far the biggest threat that they needed to take out without her powers being used or the rest of the operation wasnt possible
himeno earned all the respect in that last scene, sacrificing everything to give aki a chance and with that ost it was perfect, at the end she only gave love and wanted to receive the same from the other person, this anime is better every week,, by the way when aki buries the nail, you can see that it is actually curse because you can see his finger.
Give me everything.
I'm sure you will notice soon a 0-100 tendency which leaves you speechless. This is in Chainsaw Man and Fujimoto's other works like Fire Punch, Goodbye Eri, etc. I think this sudden pacing is an amazing move on the author's part as it emphasizes the shock, horror, and displays of overwhelming power that are shown in his writing style. They enhance the reading of Fujimoto's other works but feel like they were made perfectly for Chainsaw Man.
Give me everything.
Fun fact: in the manga, the yakuza son sword guy actually says "The Gun Devil says it wants your heart," before shooting everyone. So this guy *is* working with the Gun Devil.
"Gun devil"
Give me everything.
so a fun thing I wanna bring up that I don'tthink is spoilery: apparently the "sword man" who attacks everyone is never actually formally named in the story. A recap page gives him the title of "samurai Sword", while more popularly the fans took to calling him another name due to how obviously he's meant to parralel denji: Katana Man.This latter name is what you'll see like EVERYONE call him to the point I thought it actually was his official name before I found out otherwise.
I had the same thought of this EP being Turning Point 1!!! The pacing went from 0 to warp speed ...
bleach is better , it has better story and narration with deep meaning
@@Todd-Alquist I'll say this as kindly as I can. Go fork yourself with a cactus.
@@nikm3r fatherless gay
I think you're the first reaction channel which I have seen where someone talks about the fact of Himeno and Aki using the best of their abilities and still being powerless against the snake girl and the katana dude. Like, that hit so hard for me
25:18 But that happens in real-world Japan as well, civilians don't carry guns. As well as most other countries like my country of Romania, people don't carry guns except police and criminals. America, Canada and I heard Switzerland are very into civilans carrying guns.
only discussion after reaction i’ve actually sat through and watched for anyone, you guys are extremely good at analyzing the story
couldn't wait to see your reactions all day man!!!1
Give me everything.
The mangaka has perfectly encapsulated the feeling of a party meeting CR25 Vecna at level 3.
And so the story removes it's limiters and revs up it's engine.
Buckle up kids, Chainsaw Pacing is upon us.
The fox devil's view point on making more contacts is most likely rooted in Asian mythology and culture as the fox spirit is often revered in the East and is generally regarded as a friendly spirit. Just found the channel though and excited to watch future reactions! Great show thus far.
“Give me everything”
Fujimoto has gone on record to say that Berserk is a series that he really enjoys, so an event that is essentially his version of The Eclipse makes a lot of sense
Minor and major characters die in a way that’s out of the blue, and the horror wraps up with one of the main characters’ futile attempt to stop another main character’s torment
The prologue is now over this is where the story really begins s***'s only gonna get crazier from now on
Give me everything.
A small detail I'd like to point out: the group did hear the gunshots but they didn't recognize them. They thought it was the sound of taiko drums but they didn't even consider any kind of training or violent crime involving guns. It was previously mentioned how guns are heavily censored on media, but devil hunters (and the police who they are working with) are supposedly allowed to use them. And yet even the people who are allowed guns don't know how a gunshot sounds.
If Public Safety, a structure under the government, doesn't use guns, why do yakuza have them?
Give me everything
There's a decent possibility that the snake girl didn't revive the katana man on her own, maybe like how denji and be revved up, katana man probably also has some form of "trigger" to revv?blade? him back up?
Give me everything. This is most definitely the turning point of the series, the moment that tells the audience that anyone can die. I am unsure if they are going to show it next episode or not, but just in case it does, the cost of using the Snake Devil is actually very small. This episode also reinforces the idea that the devil "hybrids," for lack of a better term, taste very different from both humans and devils, as seen previously with the Bat Devil.
Painsawman Chasing has arrived!