Arizona Coytes AFTERMATH of move to Utah (with Leah Merrall)
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 This is personal & professional
1:44 This happened slow, and fast
3:08 What it's like to watch things in UTAH
4:35 Did Utah poach the Coyotes?
6:03 Things that led to Coyotes move
8:35 Did Coyotes get evicted from Glendale?
9:24 Status of the AHL Tucson Roadrunners
11:10 NHL future relies on Coyotes PAST owners?
13:45 Upcoming land auction & theme park district
15:20 Gut instincts on the future
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Meruelo’s biggest obstacle to bringing the Yotes back is simply that everyone whose help he needs hates him now
not really, he has the corrupt Gov. and corrupt Phx mayor on his side(can you say envelopes under the table)$$$$
Rooting for Leah's career to take off. She did an outstanding job for PHNX.
Awesome interview with Leah. I live in Utah, and we're obviously super excited to be getting a team. However, I feel for Leah and other Coyotes fans who have invested time, money, and emotion into a team that has been completely mismanaged by ownership. Hopefully that guy can get his crap together and you all can get another franchise and the Coyotes franchise can make a comeback in the next five years.
Eff them, they stole the team from a city that did support them in every way, and just cause they couldn’t get a new arena fast enough….ironic eh? If half the patience shown to Phoenix had been shown to Winnipeg in the first place.
5 years is a pipe dream. Seattle lost it's NBA team and still hasn't gotten it back. That was 17 years ago.
Crazy. I just assumed they’d get an expansion NBA team the year after the Kraken arrived.
@@davechan8613 The NBA is in the middle of their next tv deal which is supposed to be finalized this summer. Next season is the last year under the current deal. Expansion should happen after that. So maybe before the end of the decade they get their team back but that would mean more than 20 years since they left. I think Phoenix is looking at something similar for the NHL. Never trust what billionaires tell you.
Having said that it took Winnipeg 15 years to get their hockey team back so 5 years is a pipe dream
@@ipsbz Exactly. That was under the right circumstances at the right time. A bunch of things has to fall in line at the right time otherwise it isn't happening.
@@daboys1215NHL should not expand beyond 32.
As a Utah NHL fan, getting this team is bittersweet because it's tough to see how rough this is on the real fans in AZ. My heart goes out to you.
Taylor Swift's new song off her latest record "So long, London" (about leaving her long-term relationship) is another song (apart from "Anti-Hero") that could apply to this situation that could have very well been written by Gary Bettman (called "So Long, 'Zona"). Lines like: "I stopped CPR, after all it's no use, the spirit was gone, we would never come to...And you say I abandoned the ship, but I was going down with it...When you're not sure if he wants to be there...And I'm just mad as hell 'cause I loved this place for so long, 'Zona. Had a good run." Gary (like Taylor) stayed way longer than he should've (waiting for this franchise to get it's act together rather than waiting for a proposal).
i think now we got bad blood, it used to be all love...
@@brodiebrazil #totally lol
Leah is awesome. Im gonna miss the PHNX Coyotes show. Wishing her the best in whatever comes next
Same thing happen when the people in Winnipeg lost their Jets in 1996.
Leah, I've enjoyed watching you on RUclips and wish there was some way you could continue doing this for the Utah HC
Agreed. Her and her team were great to Utah fans and realy gave us the TLDR on our new NHL team
7:58 Phoenix Roadrunners were an IHL team at the coliseum.
Roadrunners need to stay in Tucson
agree, i dont like the domino effect
as a lifelong Seattle Sonics fan, I feel your pain!
When the Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis, I was 20 years old. And it's been a non-stop new stadium ever since. I think we all have to keep sports at arms length.
Glendale is a great arena and even though the location sucks the fans would have come had the team been consistently in contention for the playoffs. I remember the three years from 2010 to 2012 when they were good and in the playoffs and the arena was full. Unfortunately the best owner was the NHL.
Great interview. As someone who is now covering the Utah Hockey Club with DNA Sports Recap, I watched there videos and was in their live stream, learning all I can about this team. Leah and the rest of her team were great sports about the whole thing. Looking forward to the fall.
Great content. Leah is so thoughtful and well-spoken.
especially during difficult circumstances
i feel bad for all the people affected by this. Sadly,The NHL will high likely not return in AZ with AM as owner. Shane Doan story do tend to confirm this.
I know the Coyotes TV director. There are a lot of people who will suffer in AZ because of this.
Leah is the best. My heart goes out to her
Great interview by Brodie. Great answers from Leah. Thanks for your fair, honest coverage over the past month.
buttman bent over backwards to give con man and fraud meruelo a 700 MILLION GOLDEN PARACHUTE , and let him have the tucson roadrunners, f'ing ridiculous .. tucson supports their roadrunners , no way should they move .. we suggest meruelo never show his face in arizona ever again .
We travel from southwest New Mexico to support the roadrunners, will continue even if it means additional mileage, naturally we hope they stay at convention center,a Roadrunners game and an In n Out hamburger is the equivalent of a good life!
Explain what Muruelo did that is defined as fraud, because that's a very serious term to accuse someone of, so please present your evidence.
Bettman is the one most responsible for the Coyotes plight over the last 20+ years. He knew Steve Ellman, the real estate developer who bought the team around 2001, was building the Westgate Entertainment district in Glendale.
Ellman claims that he tried to find an arena space in the East Valley area, but couldn't, even though he only spent about 6 months looking for a spot. It really seems Ellman always intended to build the area in the Westgate district in Glendale when he bought the team to help make the Westgate district a more attractive spot for retailers and restaurants as having an arena with a permanent sports teams means a more consistent flow of people coming to the Westgate district. This would also mean more money for Ellman's other businesses. Bettman should have stopped Ellman from building the stadium in Glendale and made him find a stadium spot in the East Valley. Bettman didn't, partly because Ellman had Wayne Gretzky as a partner, and Ellman cashed out his ownership of the team in 2006, leaving the Coyotes to rot in Glendale, 45-60 minutes from their main fan base.
Leah is awesome.
Substance over flash.
Informative and naturally pretty.
Brodie is a great host.
I have always been a fan of the NHL's southern strategy but only recently realized how special coyotes are/were.
If Meruelo didn't want to sell the team, I don't think Bettman could've forced him to as long as he was fulfilling his obligations as an owner. So the next best thing for Bettman was to guarantee him an expansion franchise with a 5 year window in return for agreeing to sell this current edition of the Coyotes. It works for Meruelo if he was in fact losing lots of money on the team each year - now he gets time to build a new arena, and if so, the Coyotes will re-enter the NHL.
Heartbreaking video. Really feel bad for the Phoenix fans. We went through this with the A’s here in Oakland and it hurts. Hope for the best for Tampa, Milwaukee, Winnipeg, Kansas City, Chicago and all the other cities that are in danger of losing their teams.
I am beyond excited for Utah to have an NHL team but I do feel so bad for the Coyote fans in Arizona! I hope your franchise comes back sooner than later!
Leah wow
Definitely need new ownership by the sound of things.
From what I heard, Gary Bettman did not want to have the Coyotes in Glendale, and would have prohibited Alex Meruelo from buying the team if he intended to keep the team in Glendale
Leah is the Bomb.
Leah's cute❤
I mean there are multiple players. I think the tipping point was the Yotes doing well. There was a point in January where the Yotes looked like a wild card. Smith and Gary both admit real conversations started in early February. Gary didn't want playoffs in Mullet. The governors all believe there is a chance Meruelo messes up the auction. Smith was heavy-handed in begging for a team. So the rumors get loud in February. The Yotes tank. Gary twists Meruelo's arm to sell to Smith. Gives conditions so Meruelo can't sue. Meruelo goes a long with it bc he'll be fine either way. Team get hot potatoed to Smith/SLC. Enough ducks are in a row for games to played in Utah. That said there are glaring issues. I think Smith thought he'd have another year. It's why he has pivoted from a new stadium to renovations. It's why he keeps saying "we won't be perfect".
The 2 sports media i followed due to relocations, same vid at last
Mentioned in another video, potential name as Ice……years ago there was the Indianapolis Ice in another league!
Two greats in one room!!!
I have followed PHNX for the last three years! Brodie Brazil for a little over a year now.. I , Love That Two World Finally collided
Best of luck to Leah. She is amazing! #GOPHNX
I bet Meruelo moves the Roadrunners to Mullett. The Roadrunners will be Utah's AHL team from now on regardless of whether Meruelo gets an expansion franchise or not. In the meantime, he can have them play at Mullett to help keep hockey alive in Phoenix during this 5 year window. If he gets a new NHL team, he'll sell the Coyotes to Smith (bet the Roadrunners move to Provo or somewhere else.) and start a new AHL affiliate elsewhere If he doesn't get the NHL team, he can sell the team to Smith anyway since he'd be out of the NHL hockey business.
We have the Utah grizzlies in the echl and they have been in the ahl before so no need for the roadrunners
@@ryanhicks9546 Grizzlies are the Avalanche's ECHL affiliate. Roadrunners are the Utah Hockey Team's AHL Affiliate. AHL is a tier above the ECHL in terms of player skills. Smith will likely want the Roadrunners to move, especially if Meruelo takes them away from Tucson and to Phoenix as there's almost no chance Smith wants them to stay in Mullet after the Coyotes 2.0 situation is resolved either way.
2nd time now this franchise has moved due to lack of new arena. Wpg-ARI-Utah
I believe they are only trade marking Utah hockey club and Utah HC as temporary names until an actual name is chosen.
Near 100% chance. The Utah team will have a moniker beyond HC.
If the Phoenix ownership wasn't competent enough to run the Coyotes, what makes the NHL think that the Phoenix ownership could run an expansion team better than the team that they just had taken away from them.
If they get an arena built that changes a lot of things. They built a solid young core. Maybe Alex M. will learn from his mistakes. He did get a bad deal purchasing the team right before the virus.
You speak as if the owner has been the owner since forever...when in reality it's been multiple owners that have failed repeatedly since 1995/96, which more than laid the foundation of the inevitable failure that led to the Coyotes departure.
Because problem 1 to me was playing at a college hockey arena while there were no guaranteed NHL plans.
1) Hockey revenues are now going to directly to players instead of an escrow account, and I'd hate to be lose millions over a contract because the Coyotes only made $120 million instead of $180 million.
2) The Oakland A's situation is making MLB look bad; let's keep the weird negative stadium stuff out of the spotlight and focus on hockey.
@@HHSGDFootballJPD If they had competent ownership, they would have never been playing in a 'college' arena.
I really am sad about seeing the Coyotes go. They have one the best looking NHL Jerseys of all time and such a passionate fanbase. Hoping to see them make a return to AZ someday
I agree that they should have renovated the Veterans Coliseum. Could have bought them a lot more time. Alex Meruelo made sure that didn't happen.
certainly could have been a more sustainable option
@brodiebrazil would have been more widely accepted by the hockey community. The move to Mullett Arena was not professional. I would have supported an attempt at staying in Arizona had they renovated the Coliseum. The Tempe vote was the nail in the coffin.
You can't renovate the coliseum. It's too old. It would need to be demolished and rebuilt.
@@Chevelle602 they could have easily added new locker rooms (which they had to already do at Mullett) and club seats down near the ice for the short term. Anything was better than Mullett Arena
@@jamesfranke4521 That's actually not true. You look very young. Ever been to a hockey game at the coliseum? I used to go in the 90s to see the roadrunners. There's only like 10k seats in there and NOTHING works. The scoreboard doesn't work, everything is vintage 1980s at best. The structure is almost 60 years old. It would need a massive overhaul.
Great video. Leah is a gem.
Whenever the lottos hit $1bil+, the only real reason i spent $20ish bucks on it... buying the majority share of the Coyotes to run them the way a fan would, as a full time hobby and NOT a tax write off or business portfolio.
The coyotes could have been the just like the Florida Panthers if they had a commitment to winning and the fans. The panther arena isn’t convenient for rush hour traffic and it’s way west but because they win, the arena fills. The coyotes were rebuilding forever and fans don’t want to come out all the time for a perpetually losing team
That was awesome!
There have been some atrocious owners of Arizona sports teams. Hell, the Coyotes have had a litany of them. The only passable one was Richard Burke. However, Meruelo was beyond a shadow of a doubt the most woeful, embarrassing, and pathetic owner the state of Arizona has ever had. The stories that have come out would be outright laughable if they weren't true. Crossing off prices owed to hotels and writing in your own amount, like he was on Ebay looking at the "make an offer" button, or removing printers from coaches offices. These are actions you might expect from the owner of a team in an independent first year hockey league that is destined to flop. Not an NHL team. Yet, what's sad is, theres worse out there about him that isn't being told, yet. Much worse.
Eh I mean the St. Louis Blues have feeder teams they pull from across 3 or 4 states since they are the only big city in a large tri-state area.
Leah, you would be an awesome fit for this team in Utah. You're well spoken and very knowledgeable and would be an asset in helping the Utah community learn hockey.
I'm upset that we lost the only Columbus Phoenix rivalry in sports and the only Phoenix San Jose rivalry in sports. There's now only one Phoenix Buffalo rivalry in the NFL only, only one Phoenix Nashville rivalry in the NFL only, only one Phoenix St. Louis rivalry in the MLB only and only one Phoenix Las Vegas rivalry in the NFL only.
Personally I wouldn’t consider any of those cities besides Nashville and Vegas with the coyotes, as rivals of Phoenix teams. Just because they play every now and then doesn’t make it a rivalry.
Love Leah ❤ gonna miss PHNX Coyotes a lot
Wow uhh you should have her on more often 😅
I doubt the NHL would ever grant the same owner another franchise after basically taking it away from them..AM got to walk away with a bag full and an empty promise
They're contractually obligated to reactivate his franchise and grant him an expansion roster if he successfully builds an arena in 5 years. They gave him $1B to walk away and if he wants to reactivate, he has to pay the $1B reinstatement fee. There's no legal mechanic where Meruelo meets all the NHL's criteria and doesn't get to reactivate the team. Furthermore, if the team is successfully reactivated, then Meruelo is not allowed to sell the team for at least 5 additional years.
What I don't understand about the Glendale wanting a long term lease info is Glendale had a previous 15 year lease with the Coyotes, that the Coyotes didn't honor in Glendale's eyes, and that lease was terminated early in favor of short term leases.
When is the change of mind happening for Glendale?
Glendale canceled the 15 year lease so they could bring in AEG as the arena managers. They were fine with the Coyotes being a tenant they just didn't want them managing the arena.
People wouldn't drive 45 minutes to Glendale, they ain't driving to Tucson.
Leah I believe i speak for all of utah please follow your team to Utah we would love and welcome you with open arms .
Fffffff no. I’ll sit on it for 5 years, as long as Muruelo doesn’t screw it up
Bro I’m from Utah and happy we got a team but asking their old fans to watch the team in Utah is a slap in the face
@@KHIIyeah go and sit on it
hah....no.
@@RecklessRobert
When they left Winnipeg to go to Phoenix, I was like I hope they suffer 😂 it's just a natural reaction for many fans.
Now the franchise has gone through two divorces, maybe third time's a charm. 😅
I've moved on now with the new Jets.
I don't see the Utah team as the old Jets anymore.
Think Murello doomed the team when he couldnt come to an agreement with Gila. Just feel like if he was a better business man he would have been able to compromise with Gila. Mullet was too far and not having a new arena to move to when Gila called his bluff was a misstep, if you're going to pretend u have the better hand. The public didnt back up his poor plan/decision.
Dang ofc she's Canadian lol. I'm also a Canadian and living in Salt Lake City so I'm pumped to have a second team (flames fan here)
Keep an eye on the land auction, it's been reported by local media that the Coyotes had no opposition for the land until the team was relocated. This is now a "hot" property and watch out if the Dbacks make a move for the property, the work that Murelo did gives the Dbacks an oppotunity to replace Chase Field which it's lease ends in 2027. The auction is not solely based on highest bid, it's also based on the best use of the land connected to the bid, a baseball stadium/ent. district for an existing team may have a higher value than a hockey arena/ent. district for an in-active hockey team. It would also end Murelos chances of getting a new facility built in the 5 year window and the NHL could work in 2029 with a new group for an arena and possibly use the Glendale Arena as the bridge...so 2031-33 a new team in AZ.
So we're looking at 7 years without hockey in the Valley...
If Meruelo has an ounce of sense he will partner with the Dbacks to make a joint bid on the property
Thank you for everything Leah! "I am beer"
If I were a billionaire I would work with Meruelo to co-own the New Yotes. I actually cried after the final Coyotes game
That's a bit melodramatic...No team made up of wealthy players are worthy of tears...Root for them to win? Sure.
Cry over them?
C'mon...do you think they cried over you?
And even if they did cry over you, it's a short lived cry-session because they still have their jobs, in a new market, business as usual, their tears are very short-lived, the sentimentality is gone.
Meanwhile you're still out of a hockey team.
No team is worthy of a fan's tears, ever, especially in today's business world.
@@moonytheloony6516 i cried for the Coyotes fans because they didn’t deserve any of this
@@moonytheloony6516 Then please quit following and reacting to sports teams. Move on with your life since clearly it's not that important to you. Quit spending any energy on sports then.
leah, time to move to Utah and keep it going
Unless the management is changing with the location, I wish the State of Utah good luck with this politics-driven, bill-skipping organization.
The Utah team has a completely different owner. Same guy who owns the Jazz. Alex M. has five years to get his shit together with a stadium in the PHX area. Chances of success below 1% probability.
Ryan Smith/SEG need to hire Leah as part of the broadcast team for Utah HC!
The cheap coyotes owner should have payed for the suns arena renovation so they can accommodate hockey. The coyotes would have stayed if that happened
Should have stayed in Glendale. It was not an ideal location for fans in the East valley but at least there would still be NHL hockey in the desert for many many years to come. If a new venue was preferrable, should have had plans first before parting ways. I do understand there were a lot of factors in Glendale that I may not be privy to but... the Yotes would still be in AZ!
I agree. The league would’ve kept them afloat. They wanted a team in Arizona that badly
Winnipeg got "poached" by Bettman and dragged to Arizona, where the team has always struggled with owners and bankruptcy etc. It's kind of satisfying to see Bobble-head Bettman swallow his pride and finally take his baby off life support after bailing them out for years.
Hoping for failure is stupid
Personally, I don't think Arizona deserves a team for at least a decade after coming in at the Expense of a Canadian Team and being propped up for nearly 30 years but as things stand, they get expansion priority.
Yeah right they pushed this big time. They knew what they were doing. They poached the coyotes
In 1996 Phoenix poached the Jets with Bettmans help. So It's kind of satisfying to see Bobble-head Bettman swallow his pride and finally take his baby off life support after bailing them out for years.
GO ahead and continue to push that bullshit angle.. SMith wanted HIS OWN EXPANSION, not this mess. And remember, he only got the assets, NOT THE FRANCHISE. Arizona franchise history, name, etc. remains in Arizone, jackwad. THe players didnt deserve to continue to be victimized by Merdauelo
Bettman stole the team from Winnipeg because Pheonix is the 3rd largest television market in the USA. Yall proved that hockey is not watched in the desert, you couldnt even sell out a 6000 seat arena for home games. Boohoo, thousands of people lost their jobs in Winnipeg back then too. Support your team or loose it and quit your winning and crying.
Well, I glean from this interview that Leah is anti-Meruelo - as are 85% of people in Arizona. Still scratching my head at all the vitriol. The team he bought was a shit sandwich. You can call it Nutella, and keep selling it as is, or you have to toss it all in the garbage and start all over again. Yep, the team has sucked. But who's fault is that? Suckage was in the DNA of this team. If you wanna blame people, start with Ellman. He was the one that bungled Los Arcos, and dragged the team out to perpetual failure, aka Glendale. I do like the fact however that Leah clarified something a lot of us have been saying the whole time. It wasn't Glendale not getting paid that started that fire out there at the Desert Dumpster. It was that Glendale was trying to extort the Coyotes into an unfavorable long-term lease...Headscratcher. Nobody, and I mean nobody, ever brings up Veterans Coliseum as a third option. 13.7k for ice hockey. Downtown Phoenix. 15 minutes from Tempe and 20 from Scottsdale in light traffic. The Roadrunners played there for years. It opened in 1965, so it's the same age as the Oakland Coliseum, but I can attest that it's in way better shape than the Last Dive Bar. The State Fair maintains it pretty well. Same design as the Saddledome. Not optimal, but it would have been a far better bridge facility than either the Mullett or the Desert Dumpster. For my part, I would've done the same thing as Meruelo in leaving Glendale...
Arizona should never have an NHL team again. NHL hockey does NOT belong in Arizona.
NHL should be 20 franchises. maximum. All Canadian and northern US. California, Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and Tennessee should not have franchises. No one in those places give a damn about ice hockey.
well, it is partially the fault of the Tempe voters, though they had every right to say no, especially with this owner. Otherwise it is 100% the fault of Merdauelo
Not sure why mulrelo get all the hate. He's had miss steps but name a newer owner who hasn't. He was also delt a bad hand by previous owners. Had a bad team in an area that wouldn't work, city wanted a long term deal still. Couldn't move back downtown as the Sun's owner wouldn't share a building, no other real good options for a building. Tried for a privately financed areans in Tempe but Nimbys won out. He was delt a bad hand from day one and he just couldn't right the ship in a market that's not the strongest
Meruelo gets all the hate because he's bad at building relationships. He's a poor communicator. He's not good at making people feel welcome or important. He comes off as defensive and petty.
Yes, he bought into a bad situation and had some bad luck, but he also positioned the franchise in a way that made them vulnerable.
There's lots of reasons and plenty of blame to go around when it comes to why the Coyotes aren't in the Valley anymore.
8:50 its not misinformation its called pay your Bills 🤦
Arizona government and governor fail the Arizona Coyotes
Giving that Arizona market another shot already is such a slap in the face to Quebec fans. Arizona cost the league hundreds of millions and the leagues image has taken a hit due to the whole fiasco
Arizona doesn't deserve a team
They never should have got one
wrong
Oh yeah? What makes a city "worthy" of a team then?
And Auston Matthews should never have been an NHL star.
@@Chevelle602 For NHL, a northern climate. There are the only places the NHL belongs.
Meh, sucks but had to happen. Was becoming a circus. If the fans just would have voted yes they'd still be there and probably good soon. Easy to blame the owner but it's way more than that. PHNX needed to tell it like it was.
I am sure fans that lived in the city of Tempe did vote "yes" but not all fans live in Tempe
this is all the fans fault like hers, they didn't want to drive out to glendale for games, this is what they deserve, i feel so sympathy for these rich podcasters
I mean, it's not entirely their fault (ownership carries a lot of the blame) but a lot of people are def holding back on telling the truth here because they don't want to kick fans who already down hurting (which is noble to a degree). Everyone else could see this coming from a mile away and this was way overdue this is not the same as Oakland. Arizona was given chance after chance after chance after chance to right the ship against the better judgement of many because Gary was so stubborn in his support for Phoenix (he was going to let them play in a 5 000 seat barn for the forseeable future when you have NHL ready arenas in Kansas City and Quebec and even junior rinks in Canada with double/triple that capacity). Sometimes you just have to cut anchor lol
Exactly @@kiroolioneaver8532Winnipeg Jets 1.0 got "poached" by Bettman and dragged to Arizona, where the team has always struggled with owners and bankruptcy etc. It's kind of satisfying to see Bobble-head Bettman swallow his pride and finally take his baby off life support after bailing them out for years.
Got to love these moronic fans telling Leah to move to Utah because they hate the Arizona Coyotes so much and still crap on them even after they moved.
Since Arizona is locked in (as long as they get the land and arena built), they need to do Oakland, Quebec and Hamilton as the other 3. They have arenas and can quickly get teams in. Make it right!
Lee come be my wife and follow to utah ❤❤❤❤
Arizona does not deserve a nhl team. They get outcheeered in their own barn.
do some math
@@brodiebrazil what do u mean. Phoenix has greater population than Utah.... yet coyotes fans can't even show up for their team and consistently get out cheered in their own home games.... bill armstrong said that recently. Utah has less population and significantly better fanbase already. Arizona coyotes are gone forever and nobody will miss them
@@mitch511 Shut up, Mitch.
@@NHLCrazy2007 no
@@mitch511 The Coyotes will come back if Meruelo gets the job done with the Arena
Bill armstrong said its amazing to no longer get out cheered at home games....... atizona yall don't deserve an nhl team whatsoever.
Says who?
You? 😂
@@DR-gh7yk says the GM of the team... he said the team would always be gutted when they get out cheered by other fans when they are at homr
@@mitch511it's because 75% of the state is from the Midwest.
The Roadrunners played at the coliseum when they were in the WHA and IHL. Their ECHL team played where the sun's play.
@@mitch511 Where are you from, Mitch?