Pimax Crystal Light Review: A New PCVR King is Born
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- The Pimax Crystal Light has arrived, so here's my full review of it. It really surprised me and I hope you find this hands on review of the Crystal Light useful and at least a bit entertaining :)
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I'm going to get my first VR headset and It's going to be used for gaming as well as productivity. The quest has access to things like immersed and a few other things. Can you get that with the Cystal? The one thing that would stop me from getting this is the access to certain apps
@@aarongarcia2911 I believe Immersed is available on Steam as well so it would work. Just a word of warning though, do not expect to really work for long hours in any VR headset. For gaming VR is amazing for immersion, but for working a monitor will beat VR any day.
Has Smart Smoothing worked well with the Crystal Light? I am primarily in MSFS and currently use a Varjo Aero. The Aero does not do motion reprojection well at all.
@@VRManCave yeah.. but there are things that will help when I'm halfway across the world. Team meetings will feel real. Some trainings to keep attention high. As well as me buying clients a quest 2 to have meetings with. $250ish to be different and hold onto a client longer. There's just things I want to do mainly for my ADHD and also to feel like the team is real
@@briank3754 it works great for me yes, but I do prefer 90hz native than 60/120 smart smoothing.
great review!
my unit was shipped an hour ago, my wife accepted the package, I am stuck on work for 2 more hours. cant wait!
Thanks so much and congraats on getting it, I’m sure you’ll absolutely love it! Just 1 more hour left, so let your wife know you’ll be unavailable this evening while enjoying your new tech toy 😄
I have to wait 2 months for my paid crystal light.😢
@@xtremespecs ugh that sucks man. But it would have been worse to receive it and have problems with it. It’s worth the wait!
I agree. I received the crystal a year ago and RMA because it was just fisheye and problems..I got a new one and I love it@@VRManCave
@@xtremespecs same.. I'm in uk and it says shippingin August 😭
Thank you for your video, I picked up the full fat version of this headset yesterday secondhand for a really good price as i also wanted eye tracking to take advantage of Foliated Rendering.
Caveat- i only use PCVR for sim racing when i want total immersion.
My sim rig is hooked up to 4090 + 7800x3D with a 57 inch Double 4K (7680x2160) ultra wide display.
For PCVR, I had low expectations after owning a HTC Vive Elite XR, Quest 3 and PSVR2 on ps5, none of these are good enough for Sim Racing, just too many compromises.
It took me 45mins to install and dial everything in and once up and running, my jaw dropped when I fired up ACC and Auromobilista 2.
I finally realised where PCVR is heading for sim racing - road to 90% realism.
I am glad the newer light version of this headset is now cheaper so more people can experience this.
The clarity is soooooo much better than my previous headsets (HTC vive Elite XR, Quest 3) and I am possibly one of the worst offenders who chases frames and ultra high res graphics.
I know newer or upcoming PCVR headsets are going above 5760x2880 with an even bigger FOV, no idea how people are going to drive those headsets., 5090 better be a beast.
This headset kills my 4090 as there so much to render. so your PC rig matters and you either need to use upscaling (DLSS or FSR) or compromise on graphics quality).
Battery issue that everyone complains about, i followed an advice from YT who suggested to plug a USB cable into a fast charge adapter and connect it to the hidden usb c port above the left lens, it works, my battery hasn’t drained at all after a 3hr session and still with 5 bars.
I think the new Pimax Crystal Light will be a great purchase as long as you have the right PC setup and know your way around settings in Pimax Play. I will try Open Composite / XR next.
I could not agree more with every single word. I actually didn't know you could plug in the Crystal to sort out the battery issue, but now that I have the Light, I get everything the Crystal could offer besides the dynamic foveated rendering, which I wasn't really using that much anyway.
I am also a Simracer. I had a similar experience when I switched from Quest Pro/3 to Bigscreen beyond. Native is simply a whole lot better and I especially noticed the lower latency and it actually made me faster.
So cool! Can wait to try it
Yeah it’s sooo good for this price 😄
"eyegasm" Love it 😅 Great video. I'll share this on my Discord if that's OK 😊
Aww man it's such an honor to have you here, I watch all your vids! Thanks so much and yes, sharing the video would be awesome! 😁
@@VRManCave Thanks Andy. Keep up the fantastic content and thankyou for your kind words ❤️
@@VRFlightSimGuy Will do mate, you too!
Can't wait for the Crystal Super .. coming from a G2 I feel like the dynamic FOV is going to help more despite being on a 4090 and a 5090 on the horizon.
Same here, but just be aware it's going to be extremely expensive and we still don't know if it's actually coming this year or not. The Crystal Light is an absolutely solid choice!
Just ordered mine and can't wait to try it. Gutted it's a 6 to 8 week wait time at the moment though.
Congrats! Yeah it’s unfortunate but better than getting one that has issues. It’ll be worth the wait!!
Thank you for your review. I'm always wondering when people say they use local dimming in a balanced mode. Is it even noticeable then?
I have heard that the implementation of Pimax local dimming is weak compared to professional monitors or OLED. Besides immersion, does this bring negative visibility to night races when using local dimming?
Thanks for watching! Yes Local Dimming Balanced vs. Off is very noticeable. And yes you're right, you can't compare a tiny QLED display to what can be achieved on a 55" or bigger OLED. Local dimming basically allows for better blending of dark areas and light areas, so yes, when racing at night it's a very welcome addition since there will be headlights, tail lights and other lit parts, but there should also be almost pitch black parts, including inside the actual car.
are older controllers and lighthouse BaseStations and the audiostrap from the pimax 5k+ compatible to the Crystal light?
Not sure about the audiostrap but older base stations and controllers should work, yes.
Thank you for the solid review! I am upgrading from the Varjo Aero and honestly other than the clarity the Varjo has not been that great. Really looking forward to 120HZ refresh. I can easlily get 60 FPS in MSFS and with Smart Smoothing will have a top notch experience.
That’s gonna be a great upgrade! I have the Aero too and I much prefer the Crystal Light. Thanks so much for watching!
Hi, Since you have both headsets, I'll ask you a difficult question: if they were both new and had the same cost, would you buy a standard Crystal or a Crystal Light and why?
Thanks
100% Crystal Light. While I wish it still had eye tracking, everything else is just better. It keeps the same amazing displays and lenses, but reduces weight dramatically so comfort is waaaay better than on the Crystal, and also removed the need for a battery which honestly was just plain stupid when it comes to PCVR 😄
Thanks for the review! Could you clarify something … I’m sure I saw that the crystal light also needs a Mains power supply plugged into a box that’s on the cable. Is that not true?
Thanks
Thanks for watching! Yes it does also need mains power, but there's no box. It's a small barrel connector that goes into the cable close to the computer end, where the DP & USB cables join.
@@VRManCaveawesome! Thanks for the quick response
@@ollydeggers4900 Happy to help! I always try to reply to comments as quick as I can. Only fair since you took time out of your day to watch my channel 😄
Congrats on getting your Crystal Lite a week ago. When did you order? As soon as the pre-order was announced?
Well others got it even earlier than me, though I believe most of them got it by attending the EU Roadshow events where you’d also be able to buy the headset. Mine was sent by Pimax but they didn’t sponsor the video or force me to say or not say anything.
ciao ottima recensione !!,volevo chiederti come fov e paragonabile al psvr 2 ? meglio del quest 3?,grazie
Grazie! Il FOV sembra più grande sia di Quest 3 che di PSVR2. Adoro ancora il mio Quest 3, ma per PCVR Crystal Light è il migliore che abbia mai provato.
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I have never seen the DMAS Earphones in stock. They need to up their production for them, because I will never buy it until they are in stock.
Depending on where you are, I’ve even seen them in stock with third party retailers. Also with some other accessories like the top strap I’ve personally ordered while technically out of stock and received it within the week.
Do you have a Reverb G2? I'm curious how much better the visuals are than the G2? It's obviously a higher resolution and no fresnel lenses.. but curious of your thoughts! Especially is the FOV clearly larger??
I unfortunately don’t own the G2, but from everything I’ve read and watched, the sweet spot on the G2 is pretty small. On the Crystal Light it’s huge and from reading specs on the G2 online it seems the FOV is also considerably larger.
sweetsspot even on my older pimax 5k+ is much bigger. The pimax crystal light is not only more edge clarity and sharpness but also brighter and deeper blacks, no washed out picture. big difference.
Is there plenty of room in the headset for people with glasses? I dont want to buy extra lenses and I dont want to scratch the VR lense. Thanks.
While I don’t personally wear glasses I would say there is plenty of room, yes. There are even some slight cutouts on the sides for the glasses arms to easily fit without causing pressure.
How long the controllers works after charge? Did you have any issues with auto-centering?
I didn't measure exactly, but I'd say I used them for roughly 8-9 hours before I had to plug in, and they weren't completely dead. I've had no issues with centering or with it forgetting my playspace, which used to be an issue with the original Crystal, but with the latest software updates that's not happening on either Crystal or Crystal Light.
@@VRManCave Thank you for the answers!
Are the cameras used for anything when using the Lighthouse face plate, or could they be covered up?
Only passthrough but it’s terrible quality black and white, so I’d think they can be covered, yes.
@@VRManCave Cool, thanks!
I enjoyed watching your video. I am patiently waiting for my Pimax Crystal Light headset to arrive. I went with the Local Dimming and Face Plate Bundle, seeing how I already own the Base Stations and Valve Index Controllers. I also have experienced a good bit of headsets. Currently owning 12 of them. From Original Vive, Vive Pro, Vive Pro 2, Vive Cosmos and Elite, HP Reverb G2 Version 2, Quest 1,2, 3 and Pro, PSVR2, and Pimax5KSuper all of these VR headsets have brought me much Joy. But, I am most excited to try this Crystal Light headset with the highest visuals I will ever experience. I noticed they made a video talking about delays due to some quality issues. I don't mind waiting a bit longer to get a headset that will work properly and bring me joy for many moons. 🌛 😉👌
Thanks so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it! And yes while it sucks that some customers might have to wait, I do respect them being honest and making sure the headsets they ship are issue-free. You've got a very nice collection of headsets, but I think you'll really really love the Crystal Light, it's awesome!
@VRManCave I believe, you're right. I don't mind spending this amount of money if the product us good. I almost bought the Pimax Crystal but, when I learned you had to use the batteries even when connected to the PC that made me change my mind. Now that they revised the headset and made this Light Version I decided to take a chance. I Respect Pimax as well for letting us know what is going on. Instead of lying and hiding. I will continue to show my support for them because. It seems they're now starting to learn from there previous mistakes. They make good products just had bad communication in the past. They seem to be getting much better overall. Thanks, you also have a Nice Collection. Well, Have Fun and Have a Wonderful Day! 🙋🏻♂️🫶
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe Thanks again, and yes I fully agree. I really think Pimax has a LOT of potential if they get better at communicating to us, their customers. They're taking risks, innovating, and it's starting to pay off and they've really improved in the past few years. Wish you a great day also!
I received my Pimax Crystal Light with Local Dimming and Light House Face Plate today. I am very happy with the visuals. They're the best I have ever seen. Even in the distance everything is sharp, crisp, and clear. Crystal clear. 😉👌
Only issue is the Audio is very low. Even at 100% I can barely hear it. I guess, I have to adjust some settings in my Nvidia HD audio or something...? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Thanks a lot for the review.How would that headset work with 9750H laptop and RTX 2070 Max-Q?
Thanks for watching! I'm not entirely sure if it would work at all with laptops, since I don't know if a Displayport adapter will work. The headsets plugs into the PC via full-size DisplayPort + USB.
@@VRManCave My laptop came with Rift-S and that is hooked to laptop with display port.
It is Omen X 2S
Couldn't be me watching my 50th crystal light review while waiting for mine to ship 🙃 Good review 👍 Have you tried the crystal vs the 8kx for sim racing? I always thought the FOV was more important when racing.
Hahaha I do the exact same thing when I order a new tech toy! 😂 I've never owned the 8kx but the Crystal & Crystal Light's visuals and FOV and awesome for me. I can see the top mirror and the mirror on my side of the car without moving my head, which is perfect. I think you're gonna really enjoy the Crystal Light!
Hahaha, 😂 I have watched many of these videos over and over while waiting for mine. I am actually about to hop in my Pimax5KSuper and play for a bit. Having that large FOV is great! But, I have been told by Crystal owners that I won't miss it having Visuals this good. I am excited to see for myself so I can compare. But, having that large FOV is like having a Triple Monitor setup in VR. It definitely makes a difference. Big Difference!
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe I've personally never tried the 5K Super, but yeah I've heard the FOV is crazy good. Honestly, you've made a good choice skipping the Crystal and getting the Crystal Light.
Would you please give at least some additional info about when can we expect a similar video about Crystal Super and is there any real chance we can get Super to our hands in late 2024 as originaly was mentioned? Thanks!
I would love nothing more than to know that, but for now all we have is Pimax saying Q4 2024. The second I have any additional info I will definitely share it and there will 100% be a review of it here on the channel when it does come out!
Is this a pre-production unit or did you take screen shots of the OG Crystal for showing off the lenses, the "Light" shouldn't have the screw at the top of the lenses since they are not interchangeable. Just curious, I have a Light on order, looks like late August for me (ordered May 31), gonna be a long wait! LOL
All the footage in the video is of the Crystal Light, except for those few seconds where I show the headphones mine came with, the non-DMAS ones, which I’ve switched between them so for that bit I recorded the OG Crystal, but otherwise everything else I’ve shown is from the new Crystal Light. I just had another look at it and it does have that screw. Not entirely sure to be honest what having or not having that screw has to do with the interchangeable lenses. Most of the Crystal Light is still the old Crystal with some stuff taken out or slightly changed.
@@VRManCave Might just be it being a very early version, the screw is still there, I believe newer models don't have the screw since they are permanent optics and cannot be exchanged like the OG Crystal. Just found it odd the screw was still there and caught my attention. LOL
what gpu do you have? My rtx 3060 wouldn't be able to handle this right?
I have a 4090 on my main PC, but I've also tested this on my older 3070-powered PC and it worked just fine. Of course as you can imagine, you won't be able to max out everything on less powerful cards, but it will work.
1) Is the Pimax software a requirement, and if so does it work on Linux? I hear VR is working pretty well on Linux now, but wondered if that was mainly SteamVR only.
2) How is the binocular overlap for 3d effect? I heard it varies greatly from headset to headset, i.e. PSVR2 is better than most, but reviewers rarely mention it.
The only VR headset I own is the original Pimax and the software was a pain to work with... and required both that and SteamVR running. And that was while I was still on Windows. Thanks!
I honestly have no idea if it works on Linux, but I’d assume if the software is available, then it should work. Haven’t tried without the software at all but the new Pimax Play is very good and I haven’t had any issues with it.
Regarding bunicular overlap, it’s excellent, one of the best I’ve ever tried.
Great review. 😊 I'm on the HTC Vive Original, got it for free, and I'm wondering if the Crystal is compatible with the Vive basestation 1.0?
Thanks so much! So the Crystal Light is inside-out tracked by default, but if you get the lighthouse tracked version then yes, it will work with any base stations.
hello, what about uevr experience with this headset ? and luke ross vr mods ?
The displays and lenses look fantastic with any native or modded VR games, so UEVR and Luke Ross too :)
@@VRManCave ok but i'm worried about performance with such high resolution on demanding games even with rtx 4090.
@@lolokikou5521 well yes there will always be downsides to non-native VR, but even at 80% resolution it still looks fantastic.
Dang this headset looks like a slam dunk
It’s really good yeah, truly a nice surprise for once! 😄
Will there be any need for prescription lens inserts?
The need depends on your eyes I guess. There is enough space for glasses if that’s what you mean but prescription lenses are always gonna be more comfortable and easier to use.
@@VRManCave Not in my experience. Glasses were way more comfortable than lens inserts.
Good review. I ordered one too as I want base station tracked. I really want to know how it feels in both weight and size compared to the Valve Index. I'm planning to replace my Index which I used to do full body dancing with and I guess I want to know if the Pimax Crystal will hold onto my head similar or better to the Index. If not I'll buy a Big Screen Beyond with all its downsides.
I own a Quest 3 already but I don't want to switch headsets while playing like some dancers do. It takes a bit to exit VR and then turn on the other headset and log in.
Looking forward to your thoughts once you get it. For my head/face shape it holds on great for active games, but I also don’t do any dancing so can’t comment on that. Otherwise the quality of the visuals is absolutely amazing and the best I’ve ever tried.
does it come with a built in mic? if so hows the quality? i need to upgrade from my index and im eyeballing this headset
@@malakai71 It does have 2 built in mics yes, down from the 3 that the original Crystal has. The audio quality is not great, not terrible. I would be fine using it for in-game chat, but when recording content for my videos, I’d definitely attach my Antlion Modmic Wireless to it as it just sounds much much better.
@@VRManCavethx ill keep that in mind
@@malakai71 no worries, happy to help!
Ordered today
Awesome, congrats! Hope you’ll love it as much as I do!
@@VRManCave I went for local dimming with the controller also got those extensions you linked.
I have quest 3 to tide me over but looking forward to seeing it
How does it compare to the Pico Neo link 3? A bit better? Night and day? Worth 3X the price?
I have the Pico Neo Link too and it’s not even in the same galaxy 😄 For how big the difference is, it would be worth 5x the price honestly. Every single aspect is just much much better, from visuals, to FOV and comfort.
I'm not sure if i missed it in the review but how is the mic quality if it even has one?
Dammit, I completely forgot to do a mic test in the video. But I can tell you it’s not great. They’ve gone from an excellent quality 3-mic array on the Crystal to a 2-mic setup on the Crystal Light and while it’s totally adequate for in-game chat, if you’re trying to create content or are big into VRChat and other socials apps, it’s pretty low quality and I’d recommend attaching a ModMic instead.
Thank you i'll keep that in mind
what game is shown that looks like nighttime Bladerunner in the rain ?
AirCar 😄
Would you mind telling us the specs of your PC? Curious what processor and GPU you're running. Thanks for the review!
I’m running everything on an AMD 7950x3D CPU and an Asus RTX 4090. I’ve also tried it on my old PC that had a 5800x CPU and 3070 GPU and it runs very nicely, but of course I had to lower the resolution a bit to get decent framerates on that. It will definitely scale well to a 5090 when that comes out 😄. Thanks for watching!
What would be more interesting is if its worth it over an 8KX which its much larger FOV
I don’t own the 8KX so can’t do that comparison but since the Crystal Light is newer, I’d say it’s likely better in terms of clarity.
Hey man what about the heat after long sessions. Ordered me one for Simracing am just curious about heat
I'm very into sim racing as well as you could probably see in the video. For me at least, regardless of the headset, I have a small fan in my sim rig. This one didn't seem to get any hotter than any of my other headsets and the facial interface is pretty breathable, but yeah there's still something on your face so it does get a bit warm after a while.
@@VRManCave cool. Ordered the dmas after this vid as it seems pretty solid. Will get my headset in 3 weeks can't wait! Nice vid btw liked and subbed :)
IMO with every headset you want a windsim/fan for most of the year.
@@Leynad778 cool ill take a look at those thanks
@@YouriOniRacing thanks so much man, appreciate the sub!
So how does this compare to the Bigscreen Beyond?
Well, while I haven’t personally tried the Beyond, I’ve watched pretty much all the reviews on it and the only two benefits it has over this are OLED and the size. Otherwise this has better clarity, bigger FOV, integrated audio, etc.
Depends on the stuff you want to play. For Simracing i prefer the bigscreen. The h FOV is quite similar. But the Edge to edge sharpness is not as good but good enough for Simracing.
Hello - my question is - I already own lighthouses .. if it doesn't need them - why would anyone ever choose to pay extra money for the faceplate to use lighthouses? The only reason I can think of is maybe the head-tracking isn't as good without lighthouses - but no-one ever says the headtracking is anything but perfect so I'm legitimately confused? Thanks in advance ..
Headset tracking is great with the inside out tracking, but no inside out tracking on earth is as accurate as base-stations. Also, base stations allow you to use Index controllers, which a lot of people prefer as they can't be ocluded by you having your hands behind your back, etc. Also, you can use it in complete darkness with base stations. So the short answer is, for ultima accuracy and/or use in pitch darkness, you would use the lighthouse faceplate. Otherwise for most people, inside out is absolutely fine.
@@VRManCave I really appreciate this response and the effort you put into it. Subscribed. You da man.
How does the visual quality compare to the Varjo Aero?
I have the Aero too, and the visual quality is comparable if you only take the middle of the Aero. I could honestly never use the Aero because the FOV is just soooo tight, it makes me claustrophobic 😄. I would take the Crystal Light over the Aero any day of the week.
@@VRManCave Thank you!
Im ready to make the jump into a set to last me the next 5 years. Crystal light or Varjo 4?
I have not personally tried the XR-4, I only own the Varjo Aero as a point of comparison. For me, the Crystal Light is the absolute best image I've ever experience in VR. Also I'd say comparing a sub $1K headset like the Crystal Light to the $4K+ Varjo XR-4, which is not even meant for gaming, is not really a fair comparison. With the $3K difference in price you could get a really nice PC, or a Sim Racing or Flight Sim rig that would be incredible if you already have a 4090-powered PC. Regardless, I don't think the XR-4 is worth the pricetag for home use.
My valve index is only a year old and my god do I want this now
Well, not to be rude but... the Index is a 5-year old headset, using very old tech. This Crystal Light is pretty much the latest and greatest 😁
The valve index still is a good headset, and still has THE BEST controllers and tracking. I'm sorry, but inside out tracking is doodoo compared to outside in. I'm still using my index and i love it. I'll only upgrade if valve releases a worthy successor
@@austin9809 you are a pathethic valve shill
Do you have any problems with head tracking? Any solutions?
@@petersaint8851 i’ve had no issues with tracking of the headset or controllers at all so far. I’ve used it with both inside out tracking, as well as base stations, and both have been super reliable.
The new update app doesn’t show inside-out tracking but 60 or 50hzs as tracking option to choose, I am lost right there. Any help there is greatly appreciate. Btw, I don’t have controllers with the order.
is it good enough to be a monitor replacement?
I would not personally use any VR headset as a monitor replacement since no matter how comfortable it may be or how good the screens and lenses are, it does not compare to a flat monitor for working. So to answer your question, it could be used for that, yes, the clarity is good, but not sure why you’d want to :))
Hello VR ManCave, I have two questions and hope I get an answer :). 1. I currently have a Quest 3, is the Light worth the extra money in terms of display/graphics, I have a 4090 as a GPU. The second question, is it relatively easy to set up, I would say almost plug and play? Pimax is supposed to always have problems with that? Thank you in advance and subscription is here :)....kind regards, Sandro.
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment Sandro! The Crystal Light is night and day in terms of clarity and latency compared to the Quest 3, which while a great headset, is not ideal for PCVR due to latency and compression. I have a 4090 as well and it’s incredible with this GPU. Regarding your second question, yes, it’s 100% plug and play. Pimax did use to have some issues with the software but those are sorted now and I have not had any issues at all with the Crystal Light. Hope that helps!
I can't believe I can finally upgrade my Rift S. Holy moly, FINALLY
Hahaha it’s gonna blow your mind coming from Rift S 😄
@@VRManCave Lmao, yeah probably haha
I can get the 512Gb Quest 3 fot 400 bucks rn, a Pimax Crystal Light without dimming zones for 650, or a Pimax Crystal Light for 750. What would you say is more worth it? I have an RTX 4070, I play simracing, but the main racing I'd like to get a VR headset is to play combat games like blade and sorcery. Is the Quest clip useful outside? Like, can you play in a garden? Awesome video btw
@@f.f.2260 Thanks for watching! I do a lot of sim racing too and hands down the Crystal Light is the best I’ve ever tried. For Blade and Sorcery, honestly, I still prefer my Quest 3 since it’s wireless, so I basically give up some clarity and FOV for better mobility in games like those. Overall, as much as I absolutely love the Crystal Light, if you intend on using wireless PCVR and potentially stand-alone too, the Quest 3 is a better choice. If the wire doesn’t bother you, or if 90% of your time is sim racing, then Crystal Light all the way.
@VRManCave thanks for the answer! Another question, does the Pimax Crystal Light have mixed reality? I couldn't find anything about it on the web.
What is the fov, regards
As with any headset it will depend on your IPD, but on their website they say 125 degrees.
No downsides? Well that is surprising! Can’t believe that it’s light as well, I remember the 1st version was super heavy.
Believe me I was just as surprised at you are. It’s a whole new headset compared to the original Crystal. Thanks for watching! ❤️
1kg light? How aobut 600g or 128g? Screen resolution no RTX can support?
@@unotoli it’s 925 grams with the premium speakers, and while it’s not light, it’s very comfortable and doesn’t have all the downsides of something like a Bigscreen Beyond.
Is there passthrough? With lighthouse faceplate?
There is passthrough with both faceplates, since the cameras are exposed even with the Lighthouse faceplate, but it's black and white and terrible honestly. Like it's enough to walk around your room but it looks about the same as the Quest 2 passthrough, maybe even a bit worse.
@@VRManCave no wonder I never hear anyone talk about it lol
@VRManCave that's what it's like on the OG too?
@@killdano yup it’s identical
谢谢！
Oh wow thanks so much Caroline! That's really amazing of you! ❤
Better than Quest 3. visualls?
It’s miles better yes. I still love the Quest 3 but for PCVR the compression is not great, whereas on this Pimax one there is no compression so it looks incredible.
wow just wow i got mine and i can tell u just go get it... no matter which one go get. but you do need a better gpu for flight sims than i got. 4070 super is just good enough
Congrats for getting it. It truly is a stunning VR experience in it, isn’t it? And while you can use it even with older cards, the better your PC spec, the more you’ll get out of it!
Pimax updated their website so the $699 version now lists 120 hz, the same as the other versions. It's not available for sale right now due to delays in manufacturing the screens for it.
Also keep in mind even if you order the Crystal Light local dimming version right now you're going to be waiting until the end of August or September until it ships out due to demand. Even the original Crystal is out of stock (likely due to parts being used fulfill Crystal Light orders).
Thanks for the comment, very useful info! I checked their website a couple of days ago while making this video and it was only showing 90Hz, but great to hear it can still do 120.
It sucks that there will be delays, but I'm hoping that means lots of people decided to get it, because it's genuinely really good bang for buck for PCVR folks.
Like you said, even with the 4090 card it will struggle to provide 120hz well. Looks like 50 series cards will be the sweetspot for this headset. Luckily, I was able to get me a 4090 card. I paid $900 out of pocket for it. Heck Yeah! 😉👌😁👍
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe Aww man that's a fantastic price for a 4090. And yeah totally agree, the 5090 will bring this headset to a whole new level, and I'm happy with 90Hz max graphics for now, since it means the headset is futureproof.
The OG Crystal is restocked for Canada, the UK, the EU, and Australia. For the US, it is estimated to be back in stock by July.
@@calvin7799 Good to know, thanks.
What game is that cyberpunk looking game at 6:08 in the video? You are fliying in between buildings and neon lights and rain all over
It’s AirCar, it’s free on Steam. Mostly just a playable tech demo with not too much to do besides fly around, but I use it to test every new headset because it really pushes graphics to the limit and looks incredible.
I've ordered the light and currently have the Original crystal to. Just wondering how much you need eye tracking if you have a 4090 to run it on?
@@earnaz Well, eye tracking on the Crystal allows me to push it to 120Hz max graphics, max resolution in pretty much all games on my 4090. On the Crystal Light I have to drop it down to 90Hz to maintain those settings on the same PC. I don't mind for the extra comfort, but I will definitely be getting a 5090 when it's out if I can afford it.
Why nobody test the non local dimming version?! It's the most demanded version...
Because the non local dimming one is delayed, check out Pimax’s video on shipping delays.
@@VRManCave delayed?! It was completely removed from their website few days ago... 🙃
The truth is that they tried to attract customers with the non local dimming version but sold the local dimming one only...
What game is that at 6:10??
It’s called AirCar, free on Steam. There’s not much to it but the graphics are absolutely stunning so I always use it to test new headsets.
@@VRManCave thank you!
Do you prefer paper or plastic?
Ehm... I feel like this is a trick question 🤣
Hi, is the RTX 3080 enough to power this beast?
Hi, enough, on the 3080ti - MSFS works very well, sometimes small jams flying over big cities, but it's quite nice. But for full potential of this headset in games will be possible with series 5090 or rather 6080/6090.
3080 is definitely enough but just don’t expect to max out settings.
Just allow 144hz idk why to this day the Index is the only one
The original Crystal can go up to 160Hz, so I assume they will be able to enable that in software on the Crystal Light too at some point.
@@VRManCave I had no idea!
vr wars
They have begun 💀
2:10 soviet? 😆
😂😂 just watched that back now… and yeah it sounds weird but I said “so be it” 🤣
Please tell me games played here :)
Absolutely! The games featured in this video were Half Life Alyx, Kayak Mirage, AirCar, Automobilista 2 and Assetto Corsa.
Thank you so much!
Do you recommend to get this VR headset I have the Pico 4 currently which I use for also for PCVR. How much better is the FOV and image quality on this Pimax Crystal Light?
Hahahaha why comparing the quest 3 with the bobovr strap and not without for the weight ? 515gr vs 900gr looked to bad? 😂😂😂
The answer is quite simple, and two fold. First, the Quest 3 comes with a stock strap that's worse than a pair of women's underwear for keeping it stable on your head. Secondly, if I compared the weight of the Quest 3 alone, then it would only be fair to deduct the weight of the headstrap and headphones from the Crystal Light, wouldn't it? Finally, to give you the simplest possible answer, I was just comparing my personal favorite Quest 3 setup with the Pimax.
P.S. If you use the Quest 3 with the stock strap, then hats off to you sir, you're a very rare breed.
indeed I use it with stock strap like the quest 1 and 2. I think I have a head like a female butt.
It's funny how none of the people I've seen doing Crystal Light reviews mentions the actual price will include VAT etc - and in my own case (local dimming + Lighthouse faceplate) ends up being just $14 (£11) less than my full Index - which everyone considered an "expensive" headset. This headset isn't as cheap as everyone seems to make out - though it's a good price for what it is. *PS - would have been helpful if you had told us with text etc which games you were in while showing us them ;-) I didn't recognise a couple that looked interesting.
It’s probably because most viewers are in the US, where tax not being included is the norm. I don’t think it’s fair to compare this to a 5 year old headset that has had the same price since launch. The Index was expensive back then, but nowadays it’s just a bad choice for anyone since you can get A LOT more for that price.
That’s a great idea about having an overlay with the game’s name, thanks, I’ll take that on board for future vids. The games featured in this video were Half Life Alyx, Kayak Mirage, Air Car, Assetto Corsa and Automobilista 2.
@@VRManCave I'm not in the US and OP isn't in the US and I'm guessing from your accent that you're not in the USA either.
@@dtz1000 You’re right, I’m in Ireland. But what I was saying is that 70% of the people who watch are in the US, and the dollar is a pretty common currency to use when talking about prices of tech. I’ll make sure to add both dollars and Euros in future videos.
The light with local dimming, dmas speakers No controllers comes out at around £920 delivered in the UK... ... the standard crystals was over 1500 if memory serves... Your getting THE SAME visuals with better sweet spot by all accounts... for nearly 600 less... mad
The Index display is rubbish even compared to the Reverb G2, let alone the Crystal. $700-$800 U.S. for the Crystal Light is a steal. Don’t blame Pimax for your countries sky high taxes. Also, inside out tracking is far better and less cumbersome for racing and flight sim users. We simply don’t need all those sensors and extra nonsense. To be fair we still pay taxes in the U.S. it’s never included in the price here.
how can you say tracking is anything like the Q2, i have both and a Q3, the crystal tracking is not good at all, also you failed to mention that that face foam after about 2 weeks starts to get thin and not good at all. very hard on the face build is just cheap all around. but i can say that everything else is awesome. the lens and screeens are great. takes a beast of a gpu... i have a 4070 super and that is not enough to get full benefits out of my Crystal light. Pimax please stock your 15mm face foam, and please fix your tracking
@@gaminginstilllife9429 my tracking has genuinely been absolutely fine and very close to the Q2 tracking. Not sure if it’s about lighting, the space, or what, but I have not had any issues with it. The facial interface is the same as the one on the original Crystal and I’ve used it for way more than 2 weeks and it looks and feels the same as it did on day one, so not entirely sure what you’re talking about. The fact that I like this headset all around is not to say the Quest 2 and Quest 3 aren’t great headsets. I own a lot of different headsets and I like each one in their own right.
@@VRManCave that's very curious I mean when I play the shooter games I lose tracking of the guns they tweak out more than they did when I had my quest too that's why I say the tracking is not the same even though it's the same exact room
Got my 2 days ago. The first 2 hours i was thinking 2 send it back after using the quest 3 for 5 monthes . But after tweaking for 1 day and looking for settings online i finaly got the view i wanted on a vr headset. But if i want to max out the game i need a 5090ti 😂
Hahaha believe me I’m already looking for ways to afford a 5090 when it comes out for this exact same reason. The Crystal Light is fantastic and I’m happy it’s futureproof, but right now on my 4090 I can only do 90Hz max graphics reliably, so being able to maintain the resolution and game settings on full and going to 120hz will be incredible!
@@VRManCave ya i already got the money aside for the 5090. And already a buyer for my old 4090. Want 2 see what amd going to do with the new x3d.. now playing iracing need ro turndown almost everything to get the 120hz. But what i get looks great.
PLEASE....a stripped down version of the Crystal isn't king of anything. The regular Crystal stomps it hard. However I get it, not everyone can afford a full version Crystal so I guess it is a good thing Pimax started accepting EBT cards for the Crystal light.
I have both Crystal and Crystal Light and in my opinion, as mentioned in the video too, besides the eye tracking and maybe the microphone, there is literally nothing that makes the Crystal better than the Light. But I'm just a dude on the internet, doesn't mean my opinion is the truth :)
You must be fun at parties
Including strap weight is such a disingenuous comparison for the weight, especially since you chose completely different strap designs to compare. Of course a halo style strap is going to more heavy than an elite style strap. Yet the halo style strap is still more comfortable.
What actually matters is the weight of the headsets without any straps included.
That’s totally your opinion. I compared it with that strap because that’s what I use on my Quest 3 after trying every other one on the market and find it the most comfortable. The weight without the headstrap is a useless thing to measure, since no one will ever use a headset without a strap. And regardless, it was just a point of comparison so people know what that weight means, but both are still comfy.
another sponsored advertisment
looks like there is a giant wave coming of them across the whole youtube
everyone keeps saying "699", when that option doesnt seem to even exist anymore properly, and its not including any TAXES.
This video is not sponsored, and I’ve already mentioned that in the video, but there’s just so much hate in your heart that it just doesn’t matter to you.
Don’t even know why I bother with people like you, but here we go. All prices in the US are without taxes, from iPhones to toilet paper. The 699 option does exist, they have just temporarily removed it from the website because it had display issues and they didn’t want unhappy customers.
Wish you all the best and hope you find happiness one day beyond spreading hate anonymously on the internet.
@@VRManCave lmao! You've been using it for weeks, when it just barely starts shipping to customers who paid it on first day. Then you have a referral link on top of it. Classic RUclipsr-ego, talking about hate and projecting someone emotions.
@@SINfromPL i said “1 week” in the video, not weeks. And there are people who bought it and received it before I had mine. But whatever dude 😅 And regarding the referral link, yeah, sorry I want to make a few bucks after putting 40 hours into making this video, I’m evil.
@@VRManCave yeah like who? its not a secret pimax has always been prioritising youtubers over customers. SOME customers are beginning to receive it just now, but no, it wasnt in anyone hands last week - other than people like you who got CONTACTED by pimax directly.
hiding a referal link without saying its a reflink is just scumbag behavior. but this is the vr youtube norm. oh i'm calling it out. IM SUCH A HATER! its always us vs them isnt it? you are pathethic, and will promote everything mindlessly as long as you get paid. this is why everyone makes fun of vr youtubers - you guys arent passionate, you just want to profit off it by being toxic positive about every aspect with no original thoughts of your own.
My Pico 4 with bobovr battery pack back cushion weighs 840grams (extra battery INCLUDED). I don't know from where that over a kilo for Quest 3 and bobovr strap comes from since they are pretty close (Pico4 and Quest3).
It's a pity that Pimax have some really bad designers and "economists" because that big azz box is actually useless being empty as they actually shown in their video about how it's made in the factory. You pay and wear that cupboard over head because of LAZYNESS of engineering design and stinginess of their accountants. I am pretty sure they just made a huge deal for those shells some years ago.... probably they bought like thousands of them for nothing and now they have them laying around.
Maybe the screens are good but the rest... bleah.
I love it when I get comments like these from folks that have never tried it. The BoboVR S3 Pro is heavier than the stock Pico 4 strap + Bobo battery pack, and also the Quest 3 is heavier than the Pico 4 itself. Regardless, 840 grams vs. 925 is an insignificant difference, and the compressed PCVR stream you get on the Pico 4 vs. what you get on this is miles apart. In any case, I'm not encouraging anyone to buy this if they're happy with what they have, so if you're enjoying your Pico 4 and don't feel you want anything more, then I'm nothing but happy for you. If you are by any chance near a location where they're doing the roadshow, just go and try it out and you'll understand what I'm talking about :)
04:56 --> Through the lens footage literally shows you the sweet spot...and with all that blurriness starting not far from the centre (as you can see), this Pimax Light model's small sweet spot is clearly visible.
05:04 --> This is NOT through the lens footage...obviously! WHY did you deliberately put the 'cloned' desktop footage here? !!!
"It's why I don't do 'through the lens' footage very often"
--> With 'through the lens' footage we can ALL see the size of that crucial sweet spot
--> Substituting through the lens footage for footage from a cloned screen (that obviously contains NO sweet spot) you are pushing/selling(!) a lie !!!
--> The majority of VR channels get their free toys by NOT showing through the lens footage ;)
Gotta love the haters! 😂
Firstly, the way a camera lens works(especially a wide lens like I have) is very different from how the human eye works. Also, I cannot fit my camera lens inside the facial interface so I had to zoom in a bit.
Secondly, at 5:04 I never said that’s through the lens footage, and anyone with half a brain can clearly see which one is through the lens and which isn’t.
Lastly, I don’t try to sell anything, it’s just a review, and if you look at my original Crystal review you’ll see that I specifically say it’s only good for sims, but wouldn’t recommend it for anything else.
And finally, listen, if you’re unhappy with this video, you can 1. Stop watching, and 2. Make a better review yourself and show us noobs how it’s done.
Wish you all the best!
@@VRManCave Nope. You deliberately cut that 'perfect' desktop footage at 5:04 immediately(!) after the real through the lens footage to mislead those not in the know into thinking this was also through the lens footage. Your continued commentary at the 'join' backs this up.
Unfortunately, you are not alone on RUclips - those walls of HDM's on all the usual suspect channels are obviously freely given on condition a script is stuck to.
I am a VR enthusiast. I had a Rift CV2 and currently own a Reverb G2, but I am sick to the teeth watching all these 'reviews' where misleading desktop footage is all we see (clearly sticking to scripts).
Key point: 'through the lens' footage, when done right, very accurately shows the crucial sweet spot. You do this correctly here at 04:56, and I've seen it elsewhere e.g. MRTV, Tyriel - but we still have a situation where >99% of all 'footage' is that blatant, misleading desktop video.
You can all do better!
@@ChrisM541 mate I didn’t deliberately do anything, and honestly if anyone decides of they should or shouldn’t get a headset based on through the lens footage, they’re making a huge mistake. Camera lenses, by default, are sharper in the middle than on the edges, and this is even more noticeable with wide angle lenses. I’m truly sorry you feel I tried to mislead people, because I genuinely don’t do through the lens footage specifically because it’s a nonsense method of “showing” clarity, since camera lenses do not match the way a human eye works and show distortion, reflections and other artifacts that are not seen by the human eye. Feel free to fact check me on that one, and try recording your Reverb G2 through the lens using your phone or a camera if you have one handy and see for yourself how much worse it looks filmed through a camera than it does when you’re wearing the headset.