This is pure gold and exactly what I need. How come there are only 103 subs and 306 views? Also, how can I attend the classes? I am pretty new to the game (2 months) and tried all things trading, I am now at about 40B asset and feel stuck trying to grow to 100B. Quite contrary to the conventional wisdom, each 10B seems harder than the previous one in EVE for me. Everything that used to work is not working any more. Thanks so much for sharing! Do you have an in game channel, a discord or the like?
I also listened to your conversation with OZ, lots of insights from two trading giants, with very different styles. These videos are most helpful. Also, would love to hear your level 5 mission stories in a carrier!
And this is just mass market Jita exports. I did look into it, but just maxing the orders on one character I can make a billion a day with much less effort everywhere but Jita.
that 73 bill profitt for may, is that pure profitt, or is it before moving fees, sale taxes and so on, so actual profitt lower? seems like alot of work, and more like a full time jobb to me for "only" 2 bill profitt a day with that much investment. in comparison i currently in a situation where i use rougly 100 bill for my station trading, and i sell exclusivly in my alliances main trading hub, and only using 130 or so trade slots. when im on top of my game, i can move around 12 - 15 bill worth a day, and make rougly 1.8-2 bill profitt a day. i dont really do any t1 or t2 items, but trade allmost exclusivly in faction and deadspace modules and implants. typical example are the Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System i sell around 7-8 of daily with around 25 mill each profitt margin. i sell quite a few of the +5 training implants with rougly 25 mill profitt each aswell. when it comes to higer end deadspace modules that cost between 500 mill and a bill in jita, i usually make between 150 and 250 mill profitt each i sell. they do not sell in high volumes, but when you have that kind of profitt for each sale, it quickly adds up.
40:15 when I copy/paste I dont get the stuff in columns, I get the text with tags blabalbla price blablabla, its due of Photon or is there a way for do it like in the video?. Thanks.
Very nice video Thank`s a lot Mister Eden Trade and RIP ICY i hope you evolve to something else , let`s talk about it in one year fly safe or stupid o7
Very interesting insights from a master at his craft. However, I only ever intend to play with one account, so the sheer scale presented will never be attainable, but that's my personal choice. I like EvE quite a bit, but there are other things in life I need to strive towards, all of which require time. Something I've noticed is that his top 5 performing markets all have player-owned stations with market access (most being of the IChooseYou variant). I'm currently debating with myself a move from my current manufacturing hub of Anttiri (selling there is mostly due to ease of transport) to the much more active Uedama... but, sadly, there's no player-owned markets in either system, which isn't optimal for long-term selling.
ooo Thanks for the video buddy ! Its very educational , its hard too see players to show how is done......:) but in other hand we must sey that this proffit is becose of structures you own or some other friend of you own :) otherwise you cant make solo that .....
As an active industrialist, I can state quite confidently that is not the case for most items - though it requires specialized skills, player-owned industrial hubs, and a lot of time and preparation. Ultimately, with fully-researched blueprints, you're gaining a few percentages at every stage of the crafting process, so it can be worthwhile if you do it at scale or for items that happen to have a high cost but the mats are fairly cheap in comparison and you use an industrial station in a system with a low cost index (Perimeter works for some, but that's a choice of prioritizing speed over cost, since that system has the highest cost index in New Eden for most job types). There are others that will always be cheaper to buy than craft, mainly those (especially ships) awarded by the starter missions. For most people, just selling the mats to Jita works fine, but the opposite approach can be lucrative if you know what you're doing.
It's been a while and when I played that's what I was seeing (raw mats worth more then the finished product) in most cases. If that has fliped then that's good for the game. @@DarkVeghetta
@@Boonedale It heavily depends where you sell. Anything that can be acquired from non-industrialists can at times go down in price significantly as well. The odd stock liquidation can also drop prices for a while. Furthermore, there's nullsec politics to consider, given that those tend to be the main manufacturing areas and a war can easily shake up that pipeline and create more demand for weapons/ammo/ships. I personally manufacture in The Citadel and most things will sell for a fairly good markup (as compared to the raw materials needed to craft them) in that region, but the volumes aren't even close to Jita. The issue in Jita is heavy competition and usually you'd make only razor thin margins as an industrialist there, depending on where you can manufacture.
60 characters 2bil profit a day? 1b peer toon 3b peer acount. current plex prices x500 2.7b makes 300m for each account x 20 makes 6 b net profit a month..... that is not much for this amount of work. i can make double the net profit with 1 toon
This is great. Please take this video down now as I have watched it :)
That was amazing. Thanks for being so generous with your knowledge!
This is pure gold and exactly what I need. How come there are only 103 subs and 306 views? Also, how can I attend the classes? I am pretty new to the game (2 months) and tried all things trading, I am now at about 40B asset and feel stuck trying to grow to 100B. Quite contrary to the conventional wisdom, each 10B seems harder than the previous one in EVE for me. Everything that used to work is not working any more. Thanks so much for sharing! Do you have an in game channel, a discord or the like?
I also listened to your conversation with OZ, lots of insights from two trading giants, with very different styles. These videos are most helpful. Also, would love to hear your level 5 mission stories in a carrier!
@@newchaoz man i wish i had your knowledge. I'm terrible at trading but trying to learn
@@neutricks don't you wish you had this guy's knowledge instead? XD
@@newchaoz I mean more knowledgeable all together about Eve Trading lol.
Thank You for the great content!!!!
And this is just mass market Jita exports. I did look into it, but just maxing the orders on one character I can make a billion a day with much less effort everywhere but Jita.
Just found your discord. Great info 👍
that 73 bill profitt for may, is that pure profitt, or is it before moving fees, sale taxes and so on, so actual profitt lower? seems like alot of work, and more like a full time jobb to me for "only" 2 bill profitt a day with that much investment. in comparison i currently in a situation where i use rougly 100 bill for my station trading, and i sell exclusivly in my alliances main trading hub, and only using 130 or so trade slots. when im on top of my game, i can move around 12 - 15 bill worth a day, and make rougly 1.8-2 bill profitt a day. i dont really do any t1 or t2 items, but trade allmost exclusivly in faction and deadspace modules and implants. typical example are the Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System i sell around 7-8 of daily with around 25 mill each profitt margin. i sell quite a few of the +5 training implants with rougly 25 mill profitt each aswell. when it comes to higer end deadspace modules that cost between 500 mill and a bill in jita, i usually make between 150 and 250 mill profitt each i sell. they do not sell in high volumes, but when you have that kind of profitt for each sale, it quickly adds up.
Thanks for this great video. Very informative and my type of gameplay.
solid masterclass
Would you mind sharing your google spreadsheet template?
Where can i get your spreadsheets?
2005? Me too but on and off. But yesh, remember when w had to set our alarm clocks to change skills? : )
40:15 when I copy/paste I dont get the stuff in columns, I get the text with tags blabalbla price blablabla, its due of Photon or is there a way for do it like in the video?. Thanks.
Good stuff - thank you! Does anyone know his discord server or how to get the spreadsheet?
Very nice video Thank`s a lot Mister Eden Trade and RIP ICY i hope you evolve to something else , let`s talk about it in one year fly safe or stupid o7
I didnt get him acousticly....he has 16 characters...or did he say 60 characters...??? Anyway: completely insane in both cases
6 characters
I just use public contracts.. never had an issue and wayyy cheaper. If you want it moved faster just up the pay for moving
Very interesting insights from a master at his craft. However, I only ever intend to play with one account, so the sheer scale presented will never be attainable, but that's my personal choice. I like EvE quite a bit, but there are other things in life I need to strive towards, all of which require time.
Something I've noticed is that his top 5 performing markets all have player-owned stations with market access (most being of the IChooseYou variant). I'm currently debating with myself a move from my current manufacturing hub of Anttiri (selling there is mostly due to ease of transport) to the much more active Uedama... but, sadly, there's no player-owned markets in either system, which isn't optimal for long-term selling.
ooo Thanks for the video buddy ! Its very educational , its hard too see players to show how is done......:) but in other hand we must sey that this proffit is becose of structures you own or some other friend of you own :) otherwise you cant make solo that .....
Wont you make more ISK from selling the material used to make those items then the finished product?
As an active industrialist, I can state quite confidently that is not the case for most items - though it requires specialized skills, player-owned industrial hubs, and a lot of time and preparation.
Ultimately, with fully-researched blueprints, you're gaining a few percentages at every stage of the crafting process, so it can be worthwhile if you do it at scale or for items that happen to have a high cost but the mats are fairly cheap in comparison and you use an industrial station in a system with a low cost index (Perimeter works for some, but that's a choice of prioritizing speed over cost, since that system has the highest cost index in New Eden for most job types). There are others that will always be cheaper to buy than craft, mainly those (especially ships) awarded by the starter missions.
For most people, just selling the mats to Jita works fine, but the opposite approach can be lucrative if you know what you're doing.
It's been a while and when I played that's what I was seeing (raw mats worth more then the finished product) in most cases. If that has fliped then that's good for the game. @@DarkVeghetta
@@Boonedale It heavily depends where you sell. Anything that can be acquired from non-industrialists can at times go down in price significantly as well. The odd stock liquidation can also drop prices for a while.
Furthermore, there's nullsec politics to consider, given that those tend to be the main manufacturing areas and a war can easily shake up that pipeline and create more demand for weapons/ammo/ships.
I personally manufacture in The Citadel and most things will sell for a fairly good markup (as compared to the raw materials needed to craft them) in that region, but the volumes aren't even close to Jita. The issue in Jita is heavy competition and usually you'd make only razor thin margins as an industrialist there, depending on where you can manufacture.
60 characters 2bil profit a day? 1b peer toon 3b peer acount. current plex prices x500 2.7b makes 300m for each account x 20 makes 6 b net profit a month..... that is not much for this amount of work. i can make double the net profit with 1 toon
You need to speak up a bit, a bit hard to hear you
There is a button on the left or right side of your phone that might help with that
That doesn't help when their recording software audio messed up, that should be obvious@@stasdimov310
TL;DR he buys cheap sells expensive and thinks that's a lot to take in
Excellent, your only mistake is where it says quantity and orders...orders is how many are sold, not quantity. Quantity is how many are stocked