Why Avenged Sevenfold aren't dropping Ronnie Radke
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- M Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold joins to talk about dropping Ronnie Radke from their shows.
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It’s nice to see a rockstar that doesn’t hate people with differing opinions. Respect.
Most people are respectful. It's the fringe psychos that usually have the loudest voices, unfortunately
My opinion differs from his on a lot of things. Ive always been a fan of his and always will be. He knows how to disagree respectfully.
Being a pedo is not a differing opinion... disgusting
Woke people suck man
@@bove2k918 a lot of celebrities don't have respect for other artists or peers because they're too afraid to speak out unless its convenient. so they come at people who say something against the norm
This is why I love avenged sevenfold. They aren’t letting this culture war divide their fans. A7x forever.
What bothers me the most is seeing bands cave into the pressure of doing something just because some vocal minority wants them to. These vocal "fans" don't have any real power as all they can do is yell on Twitter and not attend the shows. It's the artists and the people backing these artists who give these kinds of people power and I'm honestly sick of it. I wish every artist had the same confidence that a7x has to do what they want to do and not care about what others think cause the reality is that real fans will support you even if they don't agree with everything you say or do.
fully agree
100% amen to that broo
yeah I like Spiritbox but apparently they some real deal pussys, they coulda gained a bunch of FIR fans that they didn't already have, and now they isolated themselves from making those fans
I go to shows twice a month at least. Not including local bands that I support in my own scene. The only time I've missed major concerts in my area is because FIR (or another band with serious allegations) were on the bill. I also think this "real fans" bullshit is fucking lame. If people do bad things. If you have good morals, you don't support them. That's what being a morally sound person is about. Not compromising your beliefs cause you like someone else's art. If you wanna be a morally bankrupt person more power to you but this "vocal minority" framing and suggesting they have no "real power" is fucking bullshit. I don't give my money to people I know are scum. I don't care to be what you lames think are "real fans" cause if being a "real fan" is blindly following someone who does or has done questionable or terrible things then being a "real fan" isn't too far from being a complete fucking sheep.
A7X refused to release a record until their NFTs started selling. A7X died with the Rev.
I fully support m shadows, been listening to both a7x and fir for years now and love them both. Keep going and making great music!
THAT MOB YOU SPEAK AGAINST IS BLM, TRANS AND LGBT SCUM MATT SHADOWS!!
Dude. When Shads said "We all want the same things, we just have a different way of thinking we need to go about it." I've literally been saying this for years in regards to the political divide and identity politics. Nobody ever mentions this. People only see the difference in each other, never the similarities. If we spent more time focusing on the the things we have in common with others rather that the differences, by nature we would have more rapport with people we may disagree with and we would, without question, make more progress in society. That shads is a wise man.
Indeed he is, you know he's a smart man with the very detailed and insightful answers he gives to questions like that even on his Twitter. I'm not even agreeing with you as an admitted Avenged fanboy, it's just obvious how wise he is if you've ever listened to him talk in interviews especially in recent years. Like you said, people need to start seeing the similarities in each other instead of the differences and being more open-minded if you do disagree on something as long as you can see why the other person would feel differently and work towards a common ground.
I live in Florida and listen to these people speak daily. I fully disagree.
Love the respect Shadows give❤ I absolutely love Ronnie and his idgaf attitude! He is one of the most talented musicians I've ever heard and seen live and I can't wait to see these guys in NYC!
Yessss❤ I can’t wait to see him in Chula Vista 🫶🏻
One of the biggest issues nowadays is that people can so easily find others that share the same opinion, they've become intolerant to those who don't share the same opinion. If you can't be friends with someone because they have a different opinion on something, then you are the problem, not them.
I'm almost a year late but, I think you absolutely nailed it. That's one of the greatest and worst things about the internet, anything you're in to, you can find other people who are too! But that means ANYTHING, you're in to.. You can find others as well. And I ain't talkin about a crocheting club.
Thank you for facilitating these difficult kinds of conversations with hard topics. I’ve felt really uneasy in the heavy music world because I’m a Christian and I never know how to show people that all we have for each other is love and a common love for heavy music
same
Just be you. Show people by example how to be.
Just don't tell anyone you're Christian. Problem solving 101.
Act like Christ and not more Christian
@An Evolving Ape that would be going against us. We shouldn't have to hide who we are.
I went to their show last night in Georgia. Both M and Ronnie have evolved as musicians and human beings. They are both very passionate about what they do, and it definitely shows in their music and how they received us as fans.
The bottom line is, if you pay to see these guys no matter how you feel about them, you will be loved and well received. The concert was absolutely packed with songs! And plenty of "thank you, everyone" in between. I've never been a long-time fan, but I felt like I belonged there, and I had an amazing time because of the effort they put into their show.
So much respect for M Shadows after hearing this, having a back bone is becoming less and less common
A7X is my all time favorite band. M is my favorite singer and Syn is my fave guitarist. Man does this make me love him and A7X even more. People have different opinions. Doesn’t make them a bad person. Love everyone and let everyone have their own opinion. We may disagree politically but doesn’t mean I don’t like you or don’t want to be around you.
A7X is my all time favorite too!
Saw them in 07 at warped in Carson opening for bad religion. One of my fav memories. They were all on point. Jimmy killed it and has always been one of my favorite drummers.
But what if you thought something was true because of a character flaw of yours? What if you're a bad faith actor in debates? What if you're criminally insane? People also need to be allowed to shine the spotlight on negatives. I don't see any large acts suffering from cancel culture, if anything notoriety helps their pocket books. Yes, we are all human and have been assholes but don't you think social consequences for being an asshole should exist?
@@AnEvolvingApe who even was being slightly negative dude? We all were saying we love the band. Like???
@@chrisoberg6888 I thought my point was obvious but OK.
Haven't been into A7X for their last few albums but i have so much respect for M Shadows
we as a society need more people like matthew. hes chill and really sweet and most importantly has wise words and lets people like what they like and not judge other people. people like him really teach us a lesson
Love this guy even more! Respect. And RR is still awesome despite the drama.
I’m not much of a AX7 fan but I always like conversations with Matt. He seems like a good dude and always has solid stuff to say.
Respect to Matt here. I never really understood the Radke controversy. If anything, it gave the guy more respect for standing his ground on his own opinions.
If we tried to cancel every public figure who engaged in bad behavior we'd have nothing to entertain us. Appreciate this balanced answer from M
Ronnie won that defamation case, yes.
I respect a7x for staying, I respect spiritbox for dropping out, I respect Ronnie for his ups and hold him accountable for his downs. It's not about sides or narrative, it's about doing what feels right to you and moving with compassion and understanding. 🤘
So by that metric, you shouldn't respect them for agreeing and then pulling out because of public outcry?
Spot on. Cancel culture will rot the music industry inside out. It’s a bunch of virtue signaling BS.
VSBS! Love it!
Nah cancel culture is here to stay. For good reason.
@@turtleshell6391 ahh okay see you're I'll ignore you now
@Jezza R Must suck so bad when people don't agree with you :((( wahhh
@@turtleshell6391 A comedian for cancel culture, nice.
The irony that those who chant equality and acceptance the loudest are the same people who will cancel you or commit violence against you for not agreeing with them completely. The world needs more Ronnies
The people whining in the comments on every rock news outlet and making false claims is actually ridiculous. I was following everything throughout the years, and it’s evident that people simply want to believe negative things because judging people makes them feel like they have power. That’s why it’s important to ignore them and do what you think is best, because they don’t think at all.
Loved when M said Ronnie in the 90s would be axel. It's a fair point. Cry there's no more rockstars... Yet Shit on 2 of the few
well they are both rap*ist who abuse women so they definitely have that in common.
Refreshing to see someone who stands ground vs twitter mob. Not fan of Ronnie, but still very level grounded take from Mr. M Shadows
You mean it’s nice to see your own opinions parroted…
Just gained more respect for Avenged Sevenfold
He a smart mofo .... love him
People have become so sensitive and te social media herd mentality has killed individuality and free speech. I hate being part of this generation sometimes. Mad respect for M Shadows for telling it like it is.
Anyone who tries to say. "People have become so sensitive" has lost the plot entirely.
@@turtleshell6391 what's your argument then? People have people more sensitive and offended by everything it's a fact
@@turtleshell6391 It's 2023 and Twitter is by far the worst social media platform now because of how toxic and cancerous it's become as a direct result of how overly sensitive and hateful people have become, like the tiniest thing gets blown way out of proportion or even an offensive joke that would've been funny several years ago is now like killing a child in cold blood.
@@turtleshell6391 so when they add trigger warnings to thing you would disagree people are soft as hell. People can't even decide their gender or sexual preferences. Can't handle criticism and can't handle when people don't like the way they live.
No, most people just don't want to work with scumbags like Radke. Not wanting to associate with a POS is perfectly reasonable.
What a stand up guy! Much love and we need more people not afraid to hold their ground. 🤙🏽
Ronnie seems to be growing as a person, and I feel like the catalyst was his daughter. he still has the bite of a junkyard dog but uses it more defensively now than prior to his daughter when he seemed more prone to go on the offense.
is it with paige?
@@TheWalkThrewer you mean his daughter?
He has a daughter with Crissy Henderson
I met Ronnie about I wanna say 3 1/2 years ago or should I say the full band of FIR but none the less I met Ronnie he's an actual nice guy he's actually kinda funny to but besides that I've always had respect for Matt but after this I even have more for him
This is your best interview ever, and master class at letting the rockstar do most of the talking!! Unlike other channels!!
I can’t recommend people catch Ax7 and Falling on tour enough!! The Ax7 production your talking about has to be seen live to be appreciated!!!
Why can’t metal have redemption stories like everyone else???
Thank You AX7 for having a pair!!
Much respect for this.
Theres a reason people are being sheep herded into saying the "right" thing, when its actualy whats most popular to say during that time.
They dont want to own a label like "racist", "transphobic", etc.
I myself was a part of this group, there were times where i felt like i was walking on eggshells just asking questions. And i even thought i was doing the right thing because these people were on my side saying they dont support transphobia, etc.
You have a respectful and nuanced discussion about trans people in sports and if you say anything thats not the designated right thing, youre automatically transphobic lol.
So major kudos to matt and the team for not caving into this pressure that so many are, myself included at one point. Knowing who *you* are and standing up for yourself is invaluable. Dont let fear run your life 🤙
Shadows is such a fucking legend
I’m glad I’m am seeing you both 9/25. I was never a “big fan”. Hell, I was barely a “fan”. Now I am paying to see you both. I can’t wait for your evolution. My husband is ravenous to see @fallinginreverse
Did Shadows bring up Guttermouth? Thats awesome! Dude definitely hated his mom lol
Every time I think I can't respect this guy even more, there's a new interview with M.Shadows that makes me love him even more. I love that he's got his own opinion, but he'll still be open-minded about others having their own. It's honestly refreshing, especially with the crazy world we live in.
This guy is a individual and thinks for himself.. hell yeah
That's why you and everyone like you also agrees with him. Truly a non conformist
@@crowsarecool8135 and you're the same as well lol
GREAT INTERVIEW 💥
2:27 "When you start silencing people that's when you get BIG rebellions-"
He couldn't be more right. I've heard this old adage, "When the talking stops, the fighting starts." Shad just said basically the exact same thing.
More respect to M.Shadows.🙌
As a 24yo Black Male... Ronnie is pretty awesome. I like that he does his own thing.
I love Avenged so much more now. fighting the good fight and keeping on a straight head about it.. Rock on!
This whole statement can only be backed by a strong ‘fuck yeah’! ❤
If Ronnie is free to express himself in any manner he wants, everyone else is allowed to do the same.
Matt and I don’t see eye-to-eye politically on many issues but I’ve always respected his honesty and intelligence, and this interview is a perfect example of how public discourse should be handled by everyone. Cancel-culture and woke culture is an absolute blight on our society that is uninformed and dangerous, particularly here in the States. I love Ronnie and FiR personally but I don’t agree in lock-step with everything he says or does either and that is perfectly fine. The idea of wanting him silenced simply because I may disagree with him from time to time is just abhorrent to me. As has been said many times, the more you try to shut someone up the more you demonstrate that you are afraid of what they have to say. Good on A7X for not giving into this totally un-American POV and supporting Ronnie despite the fact that it may be unappealing to so,e of their fans.
Cutting off the balls of a genre .. truer words have never been uttered
Love Ronnie, love Matt, love A7X, love Escape the Fate and Falling in Reverse. People are stupid. Rock on 🤘🏼
It seems Ronnie is nice to you if you're nice to him. If you're an asshole to him he'll be an asshole to you. Regardless of your orientation, ethnicity, gender identity etc. It's crazy that it's come to this.
This is the definition of giving others what they give you. Nothing wrong with that.
@@hishamhilal8332 literally what I got taught by my parents haha
What about when he threw the microphone at a 16 year old girl and injured her, what did she do to him?
@@dylanarthur5526 dude that happened almost 10 years ago. What does that have to do with anything currently? The girl was compensated and was still a fan, how are you gonna get upset over a situation that's resolved and had nothing to do with you? You're statement is irrelevant and foolish.
@@CreepyPepper cuz bro just needs SOMETHING to bitch about
Not a fan of A7X but I like this man. Punk rock soull. 💕
Much respect to him for saying this!
M seems like such a solid dude…. Also love how natural his singing voice is. You can totally hear it’s the same voice he speaks with. Sucks when people create a crazy timbre to sing through that isn’t really them.
Preach king
It makes me feel a lot better knowing that so many artists see through this fake controversy bs.
People are still living in 2012 with the “Ronnie bad” mentality. Dudes doing more for the rock music scene than anyone else.
meh, fuck rock music. It's boring old and it sucks.
Lol his music more or less a bad parody of the rock music scene.
@@dylanarthur5526 You sound like a hater...
@@dylanarthur5526 you’re entitled to your ignorant opinion
awesome conversation...I HATE that this is an issue but A7X handled it perfectly...
If people like AX7 and can't stand Ronnie just go take a piss and get a beer and his band can look around and see if they want to keep him or not I've been to enough concerts at age 46 that your not going to love the entire lineup
M. Shadows I'm so grateful that you are such a great role model
I'm so thankful that I've been able to hold a good head on your shoulders
Happy to hear him talking about this
Communication is important
Very balanced and healthy mentality from M Shadows. We all have our opinions, and it's ok to go on tour with Ronnie just like it's ok if your band doesn't want to tour with him.
We in a country in Asia have a rock/alternative/pop band that have a vocalist/front man who involved in pornography scandals and then he went to jail for a couple of years (because porn are absolutely illegal in my country).
He used to be one of the most famous and fans favorite vocalist with his band become one of the most successful band in the country with record breaking album.
Personally I thought his career will end. He'll never come back after out from jail.
But in reality he made an incredible come back with new album he wrote in prison.
He and his band toured 2 continents and 5 countries in 24 hours after releasing their new album.
And since then, he's still the most famous vocalist and their band won so many awards.
Peoples sh*tty talk are just can't stop the man and the band.
"The World is getting better" LMAO
great interview tho
Yeah that's the only thing lol but a great interview indeed
Has Ronnie said and done some bad shit...Fuck yeah he has!
Will Ronnie continue to say and do questionable things...most definitely!
Is Ronnie a great frontman/song writer...absolutely! He's very talented but is problematic and driven by his ego 90% of the time. It's the age old problem of separating art from the artist, I guess, but I'll listen to his stuff.
Play video games with him on stream sometime. He's quite the humble normal dude without the ego now a days and lets most things just roll off his back.
but
On stage, he deserves that ego.
I saw some of his stream clips and old videos, and I don't think he is full of ego, he just seems like a normal dude, I think he just wants us to see him the way he is trying to show.
It's not that people don't like when people fight back, it's that these people have never been told "NO" their entire lives. They've been coddled and lead to believe that if they scream loud enough they'll always get what they want. Literally screaming in the streets. It's a culture, no, a generation, that lacks discipline and respect. I'm 46 and see it every day with new hires in I.T. We had one that didn't want to be told that they couldn't vape in the office. Actually started screaming and saying we were physically assaulting him with our words. Yeah, security dragged that little p.o.s. out real quick. Cancel culture is a product of modern generation's upbringing of "hands off" raising children. Not that you have to physically be hands on, but having no involvement with them whatsoever. Unruly little bastards that got whatever they want any time they cry. The real world doesn't work that way. But Twitter and Reddit aren't the real world. Are they?
Finally someone that agrees with me... The real problem of the "cancel culture" is exactly that. This new generations (at least a lot of them) are nothing but spoiled bratts that think they can do whatever they want or say and everybody has to agree with that... A lot of parents these days don't know how to say no to their kids, and when the kids grow up, they become exactly like that dumbass from the I.T. you said... It is very sad indeed...
He hit this issue on the head exactly. All the people complaining aren't buying tickets anyway. They're locked in their bedrooms with the internet attached to their umbilical cords. Money talks and bullshit walks.
“Shh.. Quiet, you might piss somebody off”
It's easier to hate than to love. Love requires vulnerability, but hate is a natural feeling for everyone, and you don't have to risk yourself in the process. That's why everyone on the internet is so fast to hate, because it's easy and it makes you feel something.
Very reasonable
Truer words have never been spoken. It feels like in this day and age freedom of speech is somehow a bad thing. Differing opinions is a bad thing. It's just sad to me, it's like we're not allowed to think for ourselves. Thanks M Shadows, love and respect this.
"If you don't like him, don't show up." Yup! See you boys in NY 🖤
i dont really like ronnie radke’s personality or FIRs music. that being said, glad for Shadows for standing up to bullshit backlash over it
I don’t know Ronnie or his metal but I support him not bending the knee
I just got out the KiA forum and Ronnie is a freaking rockstar. I’ve never heard his music but holy crap dudes crazy good
Loved this answer. Whether you like Ronnie or not, goin against what you believe in over outrage culture
don't agree on BLM and all these woke groups but I do agree on everyone having the right to speak their minds and not be crucified or cancelled for it, on all sides.
I played with A7x in like 02/03 (they weren’t cool but whatever) I always thought of M Shadows as way older and RR as waaaay younger. Wild
I love matt and followed these guys for years. This dudes voice is shot. It's insane he's still trying to keep it going. Mad respect but hope he's taking care of his voice
Might want to watch their recent live show and reconsider a little
Shadows holding that mic like his a sports commentator lol
A7X can tour with FIR, I’m going to see Spiritbox with After the Burial and Intervals
I mean there’s a video on Ronnie’s own RUclips page that corroborates the entire story that started all this with him spraying and throwing a fire extinguisher on to a highway
🤷🏻
Haters love to hate because it's the only thing they can love.
Very well said. The way you explained the hate bashing/jump on the bandwagon pandemic that courses not only through the entire music scene ....but the normal society of human beings as well was so REALIST AND SO SPOT ON. You approached it head on but with eloquence and entirety : all the while remaining in an unbiased neutral position. But the. Reason it resonated. To me was the GRIT OF HONESTY THAT YOUAYEX AS YOUR VERBAL COUNDATION. I respect all that you stated. Your musical craft has always been epic and of course what I'm about to say is so cliche....But if looks were considered a crime you would be locked up for eons upon eons just saying and as far as the music you have bless the world with ..."SO FAR AWAY ". IS BY FAR MY FAVORITE MASTERPIECE OF YOURS.
What ever happened to just enjoying the music bands put out? Wild.
What a great interview, hope this package will come to Europe as well.
Most of the old Rockstars have lost that rebellious edge, lost themselves in an industry working as a cog in the machine, the same thing is happening to rappers as well.. money corrupts and taints pure artistry.
Depends on how you define rebellion. I don't define rebellious as being a rebel without a cause, and most people do. Extremely whiney people that are screaming at clouds that the world is changing while sitting in their paid off houses with zero life problems.
@Roxy Cauldwell That's a heck of an assumption, sounds like you know some of these/this type of person irl.
What I mean by Rebellion are the Rockstars of the last 50 years, they used to raise hell and I know they grew up but when they stopped being young they molded into political cogs.. they've lost who they were and become a mutant version of what made them.
@SPC Dewitt that also depends on how you define "political cogs". British punk is EXTREMELY political, and it always has been. Look at Crass or Oi Polloi as the most staple examples. Rock n Roll has always been about fighting norms, and glam was also extremely in the realm of pushing against men's stereotypes.
That being said, the fanbase of rock music is made up of a lot of minority groups that are subject to certain people making their existence political, including transgender people. Ronnie Radke has taken jabs at those people. In the freedom of America, people don't have to like that. It's pretty simple.
It's easy to be rebellious when you're worth millions and no amount of online cancelling will stop your singles from being played.
It's funny that the people who have a problem with Ronnie don't have a problem with A7X. Have they listened to the self titled album? 2 words: Critical Acclaim.
Oh 100% people hated A7x for that back in the day.
@@ThatBibleStudyChannel2023 Because it was different for them and metal fans historically hate hearing noticeable influences from other genres or just completely different styles of music in general than they're used to from their favorite bands and they form a grudge against them purely because they didn't *only* play what that single person wanted to hear. They stopped giving a fuck what the critics thought of their choices in musical shifts even going back to the songs on Sounding The Seventh Trumpet that either barely resembled or completely differed altogether from what the rest of the album sounded like and if people didn't like it, that's too bad. It's always been quite simple to them and any rational person really, if you don't like it, don't listen to it
NIGHTMARE!!!!!!
What the hell ever happened to separating the art from the artist anyway? Some of my favorite bands of all time, I could not IMAGINE following their twitters..
M. Shadows speaking facts! The reason I got into heavy melodic music! Reasonable and senseable perspectives on what is happening in the modern world!
I have been a very very long time fan of Avenged Sevenfold, and seeing this just makes me love them even more. Cancel culture is just a thing I can’t seem to wrap my head around. Exactly how hard is it to separate the artist from the art?
I love honesty no matter what it is. Everyone needs to stand up for what they believe in. I love Ronnie
Matt is right we got to have opinions but not hate we must have opinions and if we don't like things we just ignore it and just let them be
I'm a 60 yr old woman who loves Ronnie Radke ❤❤❤ and A7X
I saw avenged at warped tour old bridge NJ. I am still obsessed with m. Shadows
I can't lie Ronnie is a bit of a snob bro, haven't liked him since escape the fate and the time he kicked my bois I see stars off there show. Ronnie is just controversial everywhere he goes
Hellz yes! Great interview!
that's why music today is not as creative as before they follow a format where they are playing safe to please this new culture where u can't do this because u are a metal or u can't do that because there are genres and where u are judged by something u did like you can't even be back as a better person.
More people need to stop tolerating all the BS. Consequences are an important lesson in life that so many need to learn.
It’s ironic though that Ronnie has no problem blocking people when people call him out for threatening and bullying artists like Andy Cizek or Lauren Babic. If only people knew he doesn’t practice what he preaches and is a coward and hypocrite to his core.
THIS
Hell yeah, brother
You mean Andy the guy that called him a serial rapist? Andy’s getting sued, as we speak, not blocked
@@ronnieradke8605 other way around dude. I called him out on his shit too and got insta blocked so Ronnie bitches about being silenced but then proceeds to do the same thing.
@@adamcogan211 no not other way around Adam, Andy literally called him a serial rapist and compared him to bill Cosby, ronnie then responded back and people like you callnit bullying for fighting back, you fucking suck. I cannot imagine spending your life doing this.
I've never listened to A7F but I will now ..
Falling in reverse is a great band!!! All the hate aside its great music!!!
as a gay man i LOVE Falling In Reverse they are awesome and people need to get off Ronnie's amd falling in reverse's nutz. Thank you m. shadows i have been a fan of avenged sevenfold since 08 and am glad that u still have balls much love and cant wait to hear the new album
Not a Ronnie or FIR fan, I’d prefer a different band on this tour, but that’s just a musical taste thing. Agree with Matt’s sentiments on this topic.