@@ShaileshSharma-Sikkim AC10 all day dude, in my personal opinion (preference) I think the AC10 (along with every AC model) is the best amp to use as a pedal platform and the AC10 is simply head and shoulders above the jr when it comes to versatility.
@@Douglas_I I currently own an AC10 and used to own a blues jr until it started collecting dust after I bought the Vox but your comment is spot on in that the Vox sounds absolutely beautiful even at lower volumes compared to just about any low wattage tube amp.
25-year guitar teacher here. I actually agree. As far as a tone that would sound great in a mix, that was wonderful. I wanted to hear some great vocals and the rest of the band come in.................
I feel the same way about my THR10C. Great, full, rich tones with fantastic bottom end. It's my go-to amp for late night creativity and looping. There is a feeling of tube sag without it getting loud. Everytime I take it out to a friendly jam at someone's home, everyone marvels at its tone.
Hey everybody! I am thinking about getting one, I use a lot of reverbs and delays and this has no FX loop... How does it take them? Thank you all kindly!
I don't have too much trouble front ending my pedal board into my THR10C. Of course, not all pedals sound great with every amp and the same rule applies with this amp. That being said...my Free The Tone delay pedal and Analog Man KOT overdrive sound fantastic using the Fender setting.
The THR10 is a brilliant piece of kit and sounds absolutely phenomenal. You can use it as a simple amp, get into the nitty gritty of the editor and really do some cool things, and it takes pedals better than a lot of full powered heads. The THR5 is nice too, but the 10 gives you a great stereo field that make the effects stand out.
In further praise of the 10 it has the dedicated USB/AUX-in volume control and does a simply superb job for mixing in backing tracks e.g. from RUclips. It really sounds you're playing along *in* the mix rather than alongside/on top. Great piece of kit.
I have a THR 10x and it is great with a backing track & an mp3 player in the park on batteries, but it is a joke when it comes to a real sound. At first you think wow! But then you move a few feet and wonder what the hell is wrong with the bass. Then you realize it is like a Bose stereo with serious phase issues with the bass reflex. But you think, WTF, it is fun. Put it through your reference monitors and it is much better. Then you try to hook it up to your DAW and really think...WTF? Lame ass drivers made by someone with less than 3 digits in their IQ so you end up with asio 4 all and latency and no direct, or you use the stock drivers and must playback through the THR! Bye monitors. Sounds better (check out youtube reviews) with a mic anyway. So that is a total wash...LOL. The futility of it all starts to set in. Next you start to dial in a sound like something you are used to. You realize how bad the gate is. You ditch it and use a pedal. It is so noisy you need one unless you kill the gain. Now you quickly realize the gain is useless and you hook up a decent pedal. You can ditch the gate now. If you have enough batteries and want to carry all of that you can kill in the park. But any software...even free stuff...will so blow this little toy away there is no way you'd want to record with it. But you could. You can deal with the issues. You can make a demo video and make a good sounding track. The final recording can be good. I've done it. Total F'ing PITA...and nobody tells you the truth about it because they've never used it longer than for a demo and don't know. A Zoom multi-box and a mini Marshall smokes it. As a quickie demo thing or on the porch or in the treehouse, with presets and all? Sure. I might even keep it. But in your bedroom or at your DAW you want something that works right and responds right. Finally, you'll get to open it up and move some wires around to get them to stop making noises. Google it. Some people like this thing. No wonder they don't understand a tube amp...even a little bity one...? LOL! Maybe I will sell it...and just buy a good pedal or some NOS tubes. By the way, I use a THD univalve (hi-v w/el34) into a microiverb4 and then a clean '62 Tremolux (all w/nos mullard/rca pre's & SS recto) to a G12H & V30 (sweet spot right in the middle)...all fed by a DS-1 and a metal muff...and it works better the lower it is. Smokes like a Marshal stack on steroids, and feels like one, at a whisper. A proper (even tiny if enough headroom) clean tube amp with a few proper pedals and one 12" in my face is the only bedroom thing that really works for me. You can rock out and still hear your strings directly!
You should tell us how you really feel about the THR... :-) Not sure how you set yours up, but I have near 0 latency when recording. I don't do it often - like most folks, I use it more for a practice/jam amp for the house. I also use my monitors just fine when using it through the stock ASIO drivers. Not sure what you mean by "no direct" either. I have the direct monitoring option in the device config just like my regular A/D system (UR824) and it works fine. You might want to reconfigure your DAW to allow shared drivers and turn off exclusive mode (if your DAW supports it). If you can't get that to work, it's more of a DAW problem, not the design of the unit. You're kind of reaching there. And as far as any noise - yes, you can google it, but if you read more than a few sentences of any of those articles you'll see that there was a defect in a small number of power supplies (only in the original version of the unit) which was fixed shortly after and Yamaha offered to replace any units with the problem. Look, if you don't like the unit, or feel jipped because you bought one and didn't like it, then sell it and be on your way. Obviously from the video, you can see it works quite well - it takes pedals, sounds great, it's quiet, and does a lot for what you pay for it.
This is one of the most useful episodes of the show. Loud boutique gear is a ton of fun, but the vast majority of players spend most their time playing at home at the quietest possible volumes. Loved seeing the THR10 make its way to the show, my favorite bedroom amp of all time!
But isn’t choosing the Fender Bassbreaker as your favourite small amp because ‘its loud enough to gig with it’ defeat the object of the title of this video? If any of the amp manufacturers had a decent marketing department, they would build more amps for the ‘bedroom’ players which I would wager make up a huge chunk of the market….not going to ‘gig with it’ so don’t need the volume!! Truth is the bedroom guitarist who is trying not to wake up the neighbours, spouse or baby is looked down upon….
"I just can't get excited about quiet guitar tones." Thanks for that one Mick. My favorite quote of the whole video. I'll tell my wife that you said that and see if that can help me to make some headway. 👍🏻👊🏻
for Bed room tones i recommend the Vox ac4. Only has 4 watts (and even has an attenuator that takes it down to one watt then 1/4 of a watt) so is fairly quiet and gives you nice tubey distortion at low volumes
I have the white ac4c1 with a 10 inch greenback, jj ecc803s in v1, jj ecc83s in v2 and a jj el84 in v3. also excellent for home use, especially because of the master volume.
Love the Vox Ac4. The newer Bugera 5V Infinium is a brilliant little bedroom amp. All tube, super affordable and underrated. Great clean and bluesy tones. Has 0.1, 1 and 5W attenuator switch. And, has a headphone jack that mutes the speaker.
Yep, the AC4 gets my vote too, although surprisingly it's still going to piss your housemates off even on the 1/4 watt setting if you want any breakup.
I purchased a Yamaha THR10X just over a year ago. Best purchase ive made in so long. Dead quiet and really can emulate heavy power tube sag at whisper volumes. I play it 95% of the time since it sits in the living room. The THR series is unbelievable for as old as the tech is now.
If you're a serious musician, you can't underestimate the importance of having a space where you can really open up and play, preferably any time the mood strikes. As a young, broke, man, I learned quickly that a lot of sacrifices had to be made to support such a space; as the main instigator and front man, I took it upon myself to sponsor such " safe spaces".I froze, sweat, took cold showers in homemade baths, risked mean streets, and went hungry, to keep them up and running; many thought I was crazy, but no one questioned my commitment. I see a lot of young bands trying to get by renting studios a couple times a week, while working out their respective roles quietly and privately.I've done/tried that as well. In theory, it can work, especially if there's a clear, business like focus , and a pre determined idea of where the project is going. Now, I don't think I really need to clarify the limitations creatively on this approach, or even point out the difference in broader mentality , but especially for a group of musicians trying to do something unique, or find a individual voice, - an absolutely chilling and deadly approach.Not to sound like that guy, but there's a good reason so much ground breaking music was born in garages and re purposed industrial spaces,- they are conducive to the creative process.Where you're not rushing, or limited by even more time constraints, as if it isn't already hard enough to find common free time ( and energy) of 3 or 4 different people. When I talk to bands I don't know, I always ask about where they practice and write, - almost never suprised by the results.Peace.
Yes, but this approach isn't practical for 99% of musicians. Most of us have to deal with normal living conditions and keeping family and neighbors happy.
@@alfgwahigain5544 NFN, my friend, little has changed in this regaurd since the days of Beethoven; you decide the level of commitment to your art, and not unlike those caught between desires to be parents or sucessful business people, - it's almost impossible to be both. You can usually tell the difference between the music of those who live it , 24/7, and those to whom it is a side job.The only mistake is thinking there will be no comprimises, and no results of those choices.Many have lived happily only for their music.
@@markferguson3745 I can't agree with this, but you're entitled to your opinion. Aside from being the greatest musical mind to ever live, there are several differences between Beethoven's time and now directly related to: technology, style, **patronage**, and culture. I agree with immersion and 100% commitment, but this is just not a good comparison.
@@markferguson3745 I work behind computer, often at night, and I play guitar whenever I want to take a break. Let say - two hours of working, one hour of playng. Don't want to loose time by going somewhere else to play and then back (although I have such place, but use it very rarely). For me it is a matter of seconds to start playing and having fun. You can check my channel to hear what kind of tones I have at home at bedroom level.
What about a comparison of small tube combos? Bassbreaker 007, Vox AC4C1, Blackstar HT-5, VHT Special 6, Marshall DSL5C, Bugera V5. There are no good comparisons of those online, and much less on how to achieve great tones with those. Also they are in a much more reasonable price range, just that attenuator costs as much as my amp + pedalboard :)
Yeah checking on ebay or Reverb the Super Champ is in the same price range - perhaps also add it to a comparison? Would like to see them getting good tones out of them.
At one time or another I've tried almost all of the home amps you mention, and the Superchamp XD probably was my favorite- even over the newer X2. They all were good in one way or another (except the HT5) but for getting tons of great tones at low volume, XD was best. Even the little 8 inch speaker sounded great.
Green Meany It's the Vibro-Champ that has the 8" speaker. The Super-Champ has a 10" speaker. There's nothing wrong with an 8" speaker though at low to mid volumes. They'll fart out at high volumes, but they're just about right for a Vibro-Champ's requirements.
Knocked it out of the park again, guys. THANK YOU for all the great info. I work in a retail music store and our education center has 120 students. I'm always hipping our customers to your show as the BEST online source of tone info. Cheers!
In a single I recorded some 6 years ago or so, the guitar tones were an Orange AD30 pushed with a Fuzz Face into a 4x12 w/ V30s. A guy wrote to me(this was in the Myspace days) and said that was the guitar tone he'd been chasing for 10 years... when I informed him that the tones(the exact signal chain I just listed) were actually achieved with a POD X3, he never wrote back. LOL
The best is the thr10, X, and C. I own all three they are godly. Just plug in and play. Perfect natural organic sounds. Even the controls behave like a real tube amp.
I gotta concur with this. Just spent a few hours with the Yamaha stuff and honestly....for home usage, they are just incredible. Agreed, to me the Yamaha stuff, for home/bedroom usage, absolutely seems to breath and flex like real valve stuff up to 95%+ of that way.
The big difference with these amps over your normal guitar amps is that it's a desktop amp. If you put it there, close to your ears, it sounds wonderful.
Wolves hey man I'm with you on that. The original thr10 and thr5 are better than both the black and green one. Go give that cream colored tannish looking one at guitar center. You're gonna love it.
Fantastic! My bedroom amp is a 72 twin reverb...the demonstration regarding how low volume with a proper am is, well, "meh," was spot on. I have been incredulous regarding attenuation until this video and was pleasantly surprised at the difference demonstrated. Looking forwards to a dedicated video for attenuators. The twin is a special thing...but offensive at its best at home. Thanks again guys. Well done as always.
What a great show! I've used an amp sim for two years now at home while learning. I just bought an AC15 which I thought may be too much at home. It is if I turn it up, but with a drive pedal and lower volume, I'm able to get an inspirational sound. Of course, cranked it shakes the floor! For amp sims, you really ought to give S-Gear a try. It sounds incredible and is one of the most realistic I've tried.
Everything I do with just a couple exceptions is at low volume (NYC apartment) equal to a loud TV. I own a '64 Super Reverb, a Metro JTM45, and a Tweed Deluxe. Two have Lammar PPIMVs and the SR uses an attenuator. ***IMHO just buy whatever inspires you the most.*** Would a lot of my gear sound better un-attenuated or un-ppimv'd.....maybe/probably but who cares. I enjoy playing "cool" amps so much more than my Fender Mustang (sold it) or Amplitube through headphones or speakers. Cool amp attenuated > purpose built "bedroom" amp....ignoring $$$ and weight. For late late night just use software and headphones. I have a demo of many of the popular attenuators but beware...I am cliche as they come....nice gear...can't play for sh#t.
I have had a Yamaha THR10 for 5-6 years and some of the tones you can get out of it are outrageously good! Upgraded to the new 30 Watt second generation amp and using the line out capabilities and the wireless 'Airstep' foot switch by Xsonic Audio, I now use the amp for gigging! Really would recommend a Yamaha THR 30ii, quite possibly the best purchase I have ever made.
@Zach Ball I mean with the hxstomp you have somewhat accurate recreations of those sounds and can set up a multi amp rig inside the unit. So I would just spend time going back n forth between your rig and the stomp tuning it in. Other things to have/consider are a good pair of headphones and/or a fr/fr monitor, like the headrush 8, to hear yourself with. Personally I've gone the way of a hybrid system. I use a two notes Captor x to turn my existing tube amps into headphone amps.
I bought a Yamaha thr5 2 years ago, easily the best gear investment I have bought in a long long time. I love this video. it took me going through 10 different amps and 4 years to come to this realization of how to play at home and get good tones. This has to be one of the best videos you guys have ever done. will save alot of players time and and a load of cash.
Ok, I've watched the whole thing now. Nice job. A few thoughts- 1) You should hit up the folks at Yamaha for a sales commission. 2) The biggest revelation for me was how good the Kingsley Page sounded with the Yamaha. That's always been the concern for me. I have pedals and I like to use them but if I get a small digital amp, will it render them (the overdrive pedals at least) useless. 3) The amplitude i-rig demo was great. I've long wanted to see that. Knowing myself though, I'd go too far down the rabbit hole of trying to find fun stuff, the Jimi Hendrix setups and all that. I wouldn't practice actual guitar playing enough, but it might still be fun. Also, I use my computer for my day job work stuff- MS Word Documents and Excel Spreadsheets and I don't want to combine those two worlds, mentally, and physically in my home. 4) Mick is absolutely right, bassbreaker 15 over the blues jr. in a heartbeat. 5) Dan's tele continues to be an amazing sounding guitar.
Loved the THR segment, Dan is so right about setting it up with your normal pedals. Have you ever tried the THR10C? (the blue one) I reckon that would be right up Micks street, its got a load of classic 'blues' style amps modeled. (Twin Reverb, Matchless DC30, Blues Jr, Bluesbreaker and a Dr Z Mini Z for some slightly more pushed sounds. The delay is also analogue modeled as well.) Sounds fantastic!
For my home recording it’s been an Orange Micro-Terror 20W with the 8” cab and a Subzero Tweed 15W combo with it’s 6.5” speaker. I love having the stereo sound. I record both with SM57s at very low volumes and use diverse pedals for drive, distortion, fuzz delay, etc... This setup has been an inspiring upgrade from the Amplitube and Amp Farm plugins which I was using for years. It just sounds SO much better. It’s awesome getting back to amps (even if small) and pedals again instead of using the plugins where the beautiful graphics never quite match the sound. I keep comparing my sound files to the old ones and I’m always pleasantly surprised at how much warmer, crunchier and downright superior everything sounds now. I also use the ART Pro MPA II 2-Channel Tube Mic Pre which just adds extra transients and warmth to everything.
I have Amplitube 4/Mesa Boogie pack and like it for just jamming sometimes late night and in certain situations. But a couple years ago I got away from modeling and went back to amps and even sold my cab and just got a Suhr reactive load and just use impulse responses. I just record though. Don't play live but I find the real amps and pedals deal way more fun and inspiring. Awesome video guys!
I agree, but what I definetly wanna hear is more of that Gretsch Great Sound of your Anniversary! I know that not much people playGretsches, but some of us do!
Great video guys, as always! Can you please make a video about home recording setup rigs, from loadboxes to audio interfaces and so on? Also what's your opinion on using that kind of setup for low volume home practicing versus an attenuator? Maybe you can address this part on the upcoming attenuators show :) It would be great to hear what you think about all this and it sounds like a nice idea for a show too! Cheers from Portugal
Great show, guys. I'm very happy with my THR10C. It sounds great and Yamaha seem to have found the sweet spot where it feels simple and full featured at the same time.
A colder preamp tube will greatly enhance your home, tube amp experience. I'm using a 12AY7 and 12AU7 (depending on what sound I want) in my old Princeton Reverb and that helps a LOT! I like it so much, I think the 12AX7 sounds awful now. WAY too hot for me.
One of the best videos yet, thanks guys! My heart sank a bit when you mentioned Facebook live videos. I'm a grumpy mid-forties git who hates Facebook with a passion. Is there some way I can find out when you are going to stream live without constantly checking Facebook?
Thanks Mick. As an alternative to Facebook, RUclips live streams are great fun, and all of your RUclips subscribers can interact in real time... although the hundreds of real-time comments can be a bit overwhelming for the hosts! :-)
Bought the THR10 a week ago after watching this video. Can’t praise it enough, absolutely love it. Very easy to use and great sounds from such a small unit. Plugged it into the Mac and found you get a few other effects to use like a compressor and noise gate and you can choose various cabs. I’m going to be returning my long term loan Marshall MG100 DFX as this Yamaha is all I want now
Bought one of these second hand for £90 off ebay a month ago. It's brilliant, not just good for the money but brilliant. I've got a Marshall plexi and Blackstar Ht5 so although I'm a crap guitarist I do have some decent gear for reference and a couple of very good guitars and any half decent guitarist will sound good through the Yamaha.
my answer was a Mesa Express + 5-15-25 -all tube --2 channel switchable you can drive the preamp while controlling the output at bedroom levels. I added a good TC delay and Strymon reverb and Keeley compressor and a secondary Euphoria pedal an old Boss chorus pedal and an old Mu-tron Wah -vol and an amp for stereo. All on good power --Lovely---not inexpensive but works for me
For rehearsing parts on the go GarageBand is best. You can start a backing track on your laptop and save it to the cloud and play along on an iPhone (with interface). As long as your tone doesn't require massive wha or expression pedal usage it's great to run stuff at coffee shop or wherever shoegazers reside.
That has been my experience as well. I've tried for years to like Amplitude and it seems to work fine for many but I could never get along with it. I gave up on that and thought I'd try the Fender Mustang III v2 for lower volume / headphone playing. It was better but I think the modeling sounds much better & different through the speaker than headphones. A separate set of headphone optimized patches helps with that though. Then I found scuffham s-gear. Sounds great & responds like an amp. It has a standalone and vst/audiounit/aax. Search is over for silent/headphone/DAW amp plugin playing. On top of that the owner (MIke Scuffham) runs a straight up customer first company. I recommend you try the demo (14 day no-nag trial)
One thing I've always wondered about these types of videos is, how do you not blow your f*cking ears out when you crank a 100W amp to 8 or so? How big is the room you guys are in?
Please do an all Boss pedal special! You could feature both vintage and new Boss pedals. That would be really neat. Thanks guys, and keep up the good work!
Great show. I have gained so much useful, and by that I mean inspiring, information from That Pedal Show. One take away today: I play too loud at home! I have a Princeton and an old Musicmaster bass amp (12 & 10 watts), and finding a combination of amp settings and pedals has been fun, but also very...confusing at times, I guess. They sound good at louder volumes. Good clean. I have played around with different speakers in both. You guys helped to clear a path for me to get to a point of hearing a sound I want to hear using pedals, because nothing seemed to hit the mark before I started putting information from this show into practice. I was hit or miss before that. I learned to do proper setups on my guitars at home, first. That was huge. Everything past the guitar jack I think I have mostly navigated by information from your shows. I happened upon a couple Catalinbread "foundation" pedals, basically amp in a box pedals, that also really helped get there for me sound-wise. But I would have had no idea how to use those pedals with other pedals without you guys. For the past month or so I have thought, " how do I take this sound and turn it down but keep it?" And today you flipped on an attenuator! I have been looking at 18 and 20 watt Marshall-type amps, but not pulling the trigger. Thank you!!
This and the Blues Junior video are saving my life while I'm home from uni, in a tiny bedroom in the corner of a very thin walled house; thanks a bunch!
Excited for the attenuator episode. I would love it if you guys would do an episode on speaker cabinets! Obviously they are not pedals, but you guys explain and demonstrate so well how to get different sounds. Many of us do not have access to try lots of different types of cabinets and really understand the differences in sound. I would be so interested to see/hear a 2x10 compared to 1x12, 1x15 compared to 2x12, compared to 4x12 , closed back vs open back et. . I am learning a lot about tone from your show and the speaker cabinets can be such an important part. There are some demonstrations online, but not to the quality of your show.
I find I do so much in-the-box that I rarely record an amp anymore. I started messing with computer music waaay back in the 80s. Back when the IBM PC still only had a speaker I was using a Commodore Amiga to do multichannel stereo 8 bit audio sequencing. I've watched software program after program come along to be a 'guitar amp' or effects boxes and they were always tinny and weak but an obvious progression. These days though it is stunning what you can achieve with a bit of software. I've got tones for all my favourite artists that I can re-create with pedals or right in the DAW. Impulse responses take it to another level. As the prices drop and the software improves it is only going to get easier for people to make music. Fantastic!
Given you had the Victory Duchess tucked away behind I was hoping you'd find a minute to discuss whether the low power modes on such amps have a negative effect on the tone; is it (more or less) the same but softer or does the reduction weaken the tone, and either way, does it warrant EQ as was mentioned re the Fryette?
You guys should try sticking a clean boost in a tube amp inside the effects loop and set it to a very mild gain. I do this and find it opens up the amp at low volumes and drives the power tubes just enough to clean up some pre amp fizz. I do this with a mini spark boost or even an EP boost set to about 9oclock and it works well. It can even help clean up fuzz on an orange which are notoriously fuzzy at under half volume Attenuation is probably much better but this is a cheap option for people that already have a clean boost.
That's a sweet amp! I have been looking for a 1 watt Marshall to pop up on the market for a while but seems like nobody is ever selling them. Good luck
I would definitely like to have a update on this topic, I know for you guys it’s not an issue but for a lot of us plugging in and playing at home is the only place we have to play and I have four kids. I’m on a limited budget. I can’t afford you amps and guitars you guys play through regularly so tips on budget rigs mean a lot to me and I’m sure to other people in my situation.
Best TPS ever. Everything Mick and Dan do, and the gear that they demonstrate on the show is so inspiring, but it's impossible to recreate at home with neighbors, so it becomes really discouraging. THIS episode shows that there's gear out there that let's you be BOTH creative and a considerate neighbor -- AND it gets the coveted stamp-of-approval from Mick and Dan! Thanks, guys!
For decades I've done a lot of my home practicing acoustically... as in solid body electric guitar not plugged into anything at all. The dynamics are the best you'll ever get, and I think its done amazing things for my picking technique. The only downside is that you can get lazy with muting of unwanted strings if you don't practice cranked up occasionally... you've got to be aware that when you plug in at high volume you are gonna hear strings ringing that you wouldn't notice when playing acoustically.
Hey guys ! i was wondering if it would be interesting to make a TPS on matching "uncommon" guitars with pedals (especially guitars with weird pickups, i.e. very high or very low output such as jazzmasters, gold foil pickups, filter-trons...) I think it would be pretty fun to see you guys treat yourself and play with odd guitars, but would it be of any interest ? By the way, you did a fantastic job as always. cheers !
I got my first Tele for a good price from a guy whos (ex)wife made him sale an old guitar if he wanted to buy new one. I have to thank that woman, I love that Tele, it has a spilt humbucker at the neck and the warmest, bassy, muffy sound I've ever heard from a Tele live.
@Rodney McMinge I had to pawn my 74' Stratocaster, that I bought for 500 bucks back in 97', during the last "crisis", caused by my ex-cunt-wife; so glad she's gone! I still haven't recovered from the loss of my 74' Stratocaster...
I never played so much guitar as now that I have got a THR for home use. What ever way you use for get a decent sound at home is the key for getting better at guitar. I don't have an attenuator and I don't plan to get one , surely not for home use. The THR sounds so much better at home than any valve amp , simply fantastic. The reverb quality and the stereo speakers set can make you feel inspired also at a pretty low volume . A personal suggestion is to place it right in front of you, couple of feet away and to tilt it a bit and make it shoot directly at your face, that can give a false volume impression and maximizes the reverb stereo image.
I love the Yamaha for two reasons, its super easy to plug in to, and when you dig in hard it distorts and when you play soft its clean. I have the classic C model but all the speaker cabs have been tweaked in the software. The yamaha can be edited too and it works on US voltage and overseas. Great show guys.
thr10 or similar amp are the best choice for bedroom playing with good tones... a small tube amp is always too loud for home, I have a mini jubilee and at 5 w sounds good..but not good like my thr10...
Was looking at the comments section just in case someone already asked! Dan, it would be awesome if there was a way for you to share those, they sounded great!
Yeah, that would be great to get those patches - I LOVE my THR-10 - It's a brilliantly simple and easy-to-use amp, and recording with the USB is fantastic for home studio use.
I've been limited to low-volume playing for a very long time and the simplicity of that Yamaha amp appeals to me; fiddling with a computer may give more variety but it's an added layer of cost, complication, and cables. Bravo for covering this subject and please consider doing it repeatedly since most players aren't able to crank up their sound (I'm guessing.)
Thanks guys, this is great. I mentioned on another thread (which Mick was kind enough to respond to) that I play a tele at home through a THR 10c. I love it - it feels like an amp, and responds dynamically like a tube amp would. It's a perfect solution for me at home, and running on batteries and being an MP3 player we use it as a great portable MP3 player. It's a fantastic little thing - it even has an acoustic amp setting that I run my D28 through sometimes. Amazing. So, having had it for 6 months or so I have started experimenting with a few pedals. I bought a TC Electronic Flashback delay, which I also love, and not surprisingly which works well through the amp. While the amp does have a tape delay, there are so many more options with the TC. This also goes with a reverb pedal - I have considered picking up a reverb pedal even as the amp has a really nice set of reverbs. I also recently bought a TC Mojomojo overdrive to experiment with drive over top, as well as a Big Muff nano. I can say that the drive and fuzz also works well into the amp - it allows you to get different sounds through it and go beyond what the amp provides. It also reminds me to play dynamically, using the volume knob on the guitar to control breakup sounds. The only issues I've had with the amp is the absence of an effects loop and the limitations of running all the pedals off the front, and the rather arbitrary limitation of the amp, tube and cabinet models available on each iteration of the model. It would be nice to have access to all the amp, tube, cabinet simulations and all the possible effects on one unit. I know that there are many people who wouldn't mind a happy medium inbetween the 10 and the full sized 100 with the features of the 100. There's certainly room on the amp cabinet for it, and the whole thing has a very analog vibe about it - plugging into the computer moves away from the feel they're trying to create with it, and I'm certainly not running the computer when I take it to a friend's place to play. I'd certainly pay more for more features on the cab. My solution for not having an effects loop will probably be to get the complimentary THR10 to add to my 10c, as it's about the same price as a pricier pedal. I'll add an A/B switcher and have a stereo rig if I want it, with the ability to loop one sound through one and then play overtop of the other with a different sound. Sophisticated wanking! There's the added benefit of having someone over and they can just plug straight in to the second amp and not have to lug their own gear over. This is how I justify things! Above all it has allowed me to play with great tone and flexibility at home, and be inspired by what I'm playing.
Definitely was a game changer for me. I love playing my big amps, but it's just so nice being able to practice just sitting on the couch watching tv or late at night with the THR. Also, the ease of connecting it to your computer for quick recordings is a great feature.
What about amps like the Boss Katana 50w that can be turned down to 0.5w. This would allow you to take the Amp out for band practice/gigging and also have the FX loop to be able to set up more like you would do if gigging. I know it doesn't have the advantage of being on a shelf to appease your significant other but is cheaper than the Yamaha THR10 yet more versatile. Can also be used with an Acoustic too. Also there is the Boss JS-10 that offers the GT100 effects, ability to plug in a mic/2nd Guitar and a LOT of backing tracks built in. Full range speakers and decent volume for the same price - less of an 'Amp' though. I still think this has a lot of functionality for the bedroom player to practice with - even has a tuner and can slow down tracks to hear and practice over. I think its a fantastic option for the bedroom player. I find it gets tedious practising with just a guitar and amp so having all those backing tracks etc really helps - its also much nicer to practice timings with a backing track compared to an annoying metronome.
I agree with everyone else. This is what we've all been waiting for. Well done. Looking forward to the attenuator show since I have not tried that route. I currently use a Blackstar HT20 Studio and Pro Jr with pedals. Been seriously looking at the modeling amps recently but haven't pulled the trigger. I think you guys hit the nail on the head with this show. I think there are a ton of us out there playing at bedroom volume buying pedals and small amps.
I bought a Vox Adio. I live in an apartment in Europe and I used to use the Vox AC4TV and a Fender 600 but the neighbors always complained. These small amps like the Yamaha and Vox are perfect for home use, but now I have a wall covered with the pedals I am not using at the moment.
@Giant Killer So sir, it has a backlight that makes it look tube but is't totally digital. The tones are unbeatable for a digital amp and the knobs (no screens and buttons) make it play like a real amp. It's a bit more than other digital amps but... you won't return it! PS: it can run off batteries, too!
Perfectly timed fellas. I'm on my way to Andertons tomorrow to buy a new Amp for home use.......and now I'm tempted to blow it all on that Morgan MVP23 with built in attenuator.....
The sound coming out of that tele never ceases to amaze. Nerd mode on: adding 10db roughly equates to doubling the loudness so in the section where you wound up from 80ish to 100ish things got 4x louder than where you started from. Notes to self. Might have to buy Yamaha THR5 for offspring. Might have to buy telecaster. Must stop using 50W head and Fender 4x12 for daily twiddling.
I tell people all the time that my THR is the best guitar related purchase I've ever made. Their marketing is spot on. It makes practicing electric guitar so easy and fun.
@Stig Brautaset an effects loop would've been nice. I use my THR with my looper pedal all the time, and the only gripe I have is that the built in effects apply to the whole loop if you choose to use them. You can't just overdub a riff with some chorus ontop of your loop, unless you want the whole loop to have chorus. It's really not a huge deal. It's a practice amp, not a gigging amp.
Phil Doughty Those are mainly important for metal, some rock players use them, but almost all metal / metalcore / djent players essentially need a noise gate
+Oracle's Gaming & Tech Yep, and that really isn't us. Dan and I don't move in that world and we're not very knowledgable about it, so best to go elsewhere for that. Cheers!
I tried a noise gate before and it killed my sound, especially on the clean channel. There was no sustain. I can take a bit of hiss, just not a loss of sustain. The main noise I find hard to tame is the squealy high-pitched feedback. I end up rolling off the treble to tame it, but sometimes I have to roll it off more than I would like.
When are you guys going to start actually reviewing gear? I'd love to see you do a whole video on just one pedal or a line of pedals, especially some of the more far out stuff that Moog do (Moogerfoogers and the like). EDIT: Similar to the AB comparisons you do. I just wanna see you do some Moog stuff, they really have their heads screwed on right, they're definitely making some of the best pedals available at the mo. The MoogerFooger Cluster Flux is a godsend, and the MoogerFooger delay is really cool too.
+Linus Martin We're not a review channel. Bloody waste of time (Mick here). For example: I can't stand most super posh boutique guitars and I struggle to be inspired to play them. I blimmin love Gretsches and Danelectros and knackered old Fenders that barely stay in tune and we're basically thrown together. I get music from those. And then other people are the exact opposite. Neither one of us is right - it's just all personal preference. TPS is about celebrating that - helping people understand stuff that they might want to ask their own questions about, rather than us providing some answers. Moog. Yes, we should try some. Synths are my kryptonite so the brand has never appealed. Again, just an opinion. Everyone says they're awesome!
I didn't so much mean reviewing every new pedal that comes out, I just thought it would be cool to hear about some pedals you really like in more depth, and why they're better than similar pedals on the market. And if you've never tried the Moog MoogerFooger Cluster Flux, you're seriously missing out. I got one a few months ago and haven't been able to turn it off since. And thanks for replying!
That Pedal Show Mick, you should definitely look at their pedals :o the cluster flux is amazing, although probably not really your thing i guess, although it can be tamed to do a basic chorus. but that isn't really it's strength :)
A DRRI is almost always the answer. Loud enough for small clubs; At home, with the volume just cracked is TV volume, gorgeous and clean or goosed with tube screamer or something still sounds awesome. I also have a little AC4 which is also a killer sounding amp but the bigger box and speaker make the DR is no comparison, sounds like a proper amp.
So I was saving for years to finally get a valve amp, I don't have a band right now, and I love Vox tone, so AC30 was the way to go. Since you need volume to get the sound, I was looking about all the different options AC4's with 10", 12", AC10's, AC15's etc. I wanted an amp to train me in dynamics, also looked for Fender's, etc. That little Yamaha is making me think it twice, it sounds awesome! For gigs I own a Marshall MG250DFX, which everyone says its crap, but it actually takes pedals very well and I like when cranked up. I need to own a barn in the fields, then I'll own a couple oc AC30's. Meanwhile I guess I'll rather spend my money on that small amp.
I'm so glad I'm divorced and no longer have to live in a situation where, although I'm paying for everything, it's all for my wife and god forbid I have something in "our" house that displeases her. The very idea of a "man cave" is deeply offensive.
An enthusiastic second on the Power Station. I use mine to quiet down a Hiwatt, boost up a Champ & Vibro Champ and also match impedances between amps & cabs that otherwise wouldn't play well with each other. It sounds great in all these applications. Terrific piece of gear.
I bought a 1968 Vibro Champ from Emerald City Guitars on my last tour through Seattle - what a great home/lessons amp. It has two inputs and it's so lightweight that I take it as my green room warm up amp, songwriting on the bus, sitting in on lead guitar with acoustic singer songwriters, travel amp for lessons, studio amp, and get a great tone at reasonable volumes at home. Buy a little Champ and use pedals if you need drive! Hard to go wrong. When the spouse/family/neighbors are out, crank that little guy up and it's a pretty glorious noise without peeling the paint off of the walls.
Man, I'm getting worried about this "bedroom volume" thing. It seems that everybody is giving up on the legacy of the mighty electric guitar and starting to turn it down. Where's the rock? Why are guitarists becoming huge pussies afraid of their girlfriends and the old lady next door? Jesus, be a man or a woman and turn it up. The only excuse for turning your guitar down is if you suck at it. You gotta have volume to feel the rock, man. Let's stop this "bedroom volume" nonsense. Either turn it up or turn it off.
Lol, I feel you, bro. I started gradually turning it up at home late at night a couple of months ago and surprisingly nobody in the family wakes up or complains. It feels great. If it turns into a problem they will definitely tell me and of course I will turn down, but yeah take a chance on rocking out!
Yes! Yamaha love. Nev sold me an AC30 once that I only ever used at home. Well used once before realising you can't have an AC30 as a bedroom amp! THX all the way now.
Quite enjoyed this video. One thing that I think escapes many guitarists is the differences in how the human ear perceives frequencies or in effect "loudness" at various SPLs. This is why a tool such as the Power Station is so useful, because adjustments can be made that give the aural satisfaction we're looking for since we're used to full on amps and the low volume simply isn't doing it for us. Old hi-fi amps and receivers sometimes had a "loudness" switch for this effect. Valves, transformers, and speakers all get a bit magical when working hard...yes that's true... but also how your ears are perceiving sound is quite relative to SPL.
With the evolution in technology I would love an updated version of this subject
Yes! I second that idea!
@@Douglas_I Count me in…
Torn between a AC10 or a Blues Jr 4 for that “bedroom” sound…
@@ShaileshSharma-Sikkim I have both and prefer the ac10. The blues Jr has to be a little louder to get the tone I want.
@@ShaileshSharma-Sikkim AC10 all day dude, in my personal opinion (preference) I think the AC10 (along with every AC model) is the best amp to use as a pedal platform and the AC10 is simply head and shoulders above the jr when it comes to versatility.
@@Douglas_I I currently own an AC10 and used to own a blues jr until it started collecting dust after I bought the Vox but your comment is spot on in that the Vox sounds absolutely beautiful even at lower volumes compared to just about any low wattage tube amp.
Dan´s tone in the beginning jam was the best he ever had :D loved it!
+Manuel Borges Mick here. You are on drugs.
just wanted to tease him a little bit :) great video
+Manuel Borges Thank goodness. Thought you'd had an eardrum prolapse for a second. ;0)
25-year guitar teacher here. I actually agree. As far as a tone that would sound great in a mix, that was wonderful. I wanted to hear some great vocals and the rest of the band come in.................
I agree! Wonderful tone there
The Yamaha THR10 is the single best piece of kit I've bought in the last decade. An absolutely awesome little amp.
I feel the same way about my THR10C. Great, full, rich tones with fantastic bottom end. It's my go-to amp for late night creativity and looping. There is a feeling of tube sag without it getting loud. Everytime I take it out to a friendly jam at someone's home, everyone marvels at its tone.
Hey everybody! I am thinking about getting one, I use a lot of reverbs and delays and this has no FX loop... How does it take them? Thank you all kindly!
I don't have too much trouble front ending my pedal board into my THR10C. Of course, not all pedals sound great with every amp and the same rule applies with this amp. That being said...my Free The Tone delay pedal and Analog Man KOT overdrive sound fantastic using the Fender setting.
Have to agree, my THR10X was a gift and sounds pretty awesome. Takes pedals well, but really doesn't need them..
Jamie McEwan agree...i have my THR10 for about 4/5years now and it still amazes me to this day...love it
The THR10 is a brilliant piece of kit and sounds absolutely phenomenal. You can use it as a simple amp, get into the nitty gritty of the editor and really do some cool things, and it takes pedals better than a lot of full powered heads. The THR5 is nice too, but the 10 gives you a great stereo field that make the effects stand out.
Stratomacaster . I concur...
In further praise of the 10 it has the dedicated USB/AUX-in volume control and does a simply superb job for mixing in backing tracks e.g. from RUclips. It really sounds you're playing along *in* the mix rather than alongside/on top. Great piece of kit.
I have a THR 10x and it is great with a backing track & an mp3 player in the park on batteries, but it is a joke when it comes to a real sound. At first you think wow! But then you move a few feet and wonder what the hell is wrong with the bass. Then you realize it is like a Bose stereo with serious phase issues with the bass reflex. But you think, WTF, it is fun. Put it through your reference monitors and it is much better. Then you try to hook it up to your DAW and really think...WTF? Lame ass drivers made by someone with less than 3 digits in their IQ so you end up with asio 4 all and latency and no direct, or you use the stock drivers and must playback through the THR! Bye monitors. Sounds better (check out youtube reviews) with a mic anyway. So that is a total wash...LOL. The futility of it all starts to set in. Next you start to dial in a sound like something you are used to. You realize how bad the gate is. You ditch it and use a pedal. It is so noisy you need one unless you kill the gain. Now you quickly realize the gain is useless and you hook up a decent pedal. You can ditch the gate now. If you have enough batteries and want to carry all of that you can kill in the park. But any software...even free stuff...will so blow this little toy away there is no way you'd want to record with it. But you could. You can deal with the issues. You can make a demo video and make a good sounding track. The final recording can be good. I've done it. Total F'ing PITA...and nobody tells you the truth about it because they've never used it longer than for a demo and don't know. A Zoom multi-box and a mini Marshall smokes it. As a quickie demo thing or on the porch or in the treehouse, with presets and all? Sure. I might even keep it. But in your bedroom or at your DAW you want something that works right and responds right. Finally, you'll get to open it up and move some wires around to get them to stop making noises. Google it. Some people like this thing. No wonder they don't understand a tube amp...even a little bity one...? LOL! Maybe I will sell it...and just buy a good pedal or some NOS tubes. By the way, I use a THD univalve (hi-v w/el34) into a microiverb4 and then a clean '62 Tremolux (all w/nos mullard/rca pre's & SS recto) to a G12H & V30 (sweet spot right in the middle)...all fed by a DS-1 and a metal muff...and it works better the lower it is. Smokes like a Marshal stack on steroids, and feels like one, at a whisper. A proper (even tiny if enough headroom) clean tube amp with a few proper pedals and one 12" in my face is the only bedroom thing that really works for me. You can rock out and still hear your strings directly!
You should tell us how you really feel about the THR... :-)
Not sure how you set yours up, but I have near 0 latency when recording. I don't do it often - like most folks, I use it more for a practice/jam amp for the house. I also use my monitors just fine when using it through the stock ASIO drivers. Not sure what you mean by "no direct" either. I have the direct monitoring option in the device config just like my regular A/D system (UR824) and it works fine. You might want to reconfigure your DAW to allow shared drivers and turn off exclusive mode (if your DAW supports it). If you can't get that to work, it's more of a DAW problem, not the design of the unit. You're kind of reaching there.
And as far as any noise - yes, you can google it, but if you read more than a few sentences of any of those articles you'll see that there was a defect in a small number of power supplies (only in the original version of the unit) which was fixed shortly after and Yamaha offered to replace any units with the problem.
Look, if you don't like the unit, or feel jipped because you bought one and didn't like it, then sell it and be on your way. Obviously from the video, you can see it works quite well - it takes pedals, sounds great, it's quiet, and does a lot for what you pay for it.
You can play it out your computer speakers? damn, I need to figure out how to do that.
Great job guys. Finally someone who understands that we don't all want to upset the neighbors or even people inside our home.
I bought a Nik Hubner Krauster 2 recently, the guy asked me " oh been watching Daniel Steinhardt have we".. Dan you should be on commission!.
This is one of the most useful episodes of the show. Loud boutique gear is a ton of fun, but the vast majority of players spend most their time playing at home at the quietest possible volumes. Loved seeing the THR10 make its way to the show, my favorite bedroom amp of all time!
But isn’t choosing the Fender Bassbreaker as your favourite small amp because ‘its loud enough to gig with it’ defeat the object of the title of this video? If any of the amp manufacturers had a decent marketing department, they would build more amps for the ‘bedroom’ players which I would wager make up a huge chunk of the market….not going to ‘gig with it’ so don’t need the volume!! Truth is the bedroom guitarist who is trying not to wake up the neighbours, spouse or baby is looked down upon….
Well said and I agree 💯
"I just can't get excited about quiet guitar tones." Thanks for that one Mick. My favorite quote of the whole video. I'll tell my wife that you said that and see if that can help me to make some headway. 👍🏻👊🏻
for Bed room tones i recommend the Vox ac4. Only has 4 watts (and even has an attenuator that takes it down to one watt then 1/4 of a watt) so is fairly quiet and gives you nice tubey distortion at low volumes
I have the white ac4c1 with a 10 inch greenback, jj ecc803s in v1, jj ecc83s in v2 and a jj el84 in v3. also excellent for home use, especially because of the master volume.
Love the Vox Ac4. The newer Bugera 5V Infinium is a brilliant little bedroom amp. All tube, super affordable and underrated. Great clean and bluesy tones. Has 0.1, 1 and 5W attenuator switch. And, has a headphone jack that mutes the speaker.
Yep, the AC4 gets my vote too, although surprisingly it's still going to piss your housemates off even on the 1/4 watt setting if you want any breakup.
Will Turner yeah i have one and too and i set it up about to break up and it still sound loud in the 1/4watt mode
The Vox AC4 is too loud. Even at 1watt it's loud. At 4 watts..? Mom makes death threats.
I've tried that Bassbreaker 15 combo last week,it is absolutely great. And a great bang for your buck.
My day is MADE. Mick played Back in Black with the C# with the A. I've never even gotten anyone to agree they hear it in there!!
I purchased a Yamaha THR10X just over a year ago. Best purchase ive made in so long. Dead quiet and really can emulate heavy power tube sag at whisper volumes. I play it 95% of the time since it sits in the living room. The THR series is unbelievable for as old as the tech is now.
If you're a serious musician, you can't underestimate the importance of having a space where you can really open up and play, preferably any time the mood strikes.
As a young, broke, man, I learned quickly that a lot of sacrifices had to be made to support such a space; as the main instigator and front man, I took it upon myself to sponsor such " safe spaces".I froze, sweat, took cold showers in homemade baths, risked mean streets, and went hungry, to keep them up and running; many thought I was crazy, but no one questioned my commitment.
I see a lot of young bands trying to get by renting studios a couple times a week, while working out their respective roles quietly and privately.I've done/tried that as well. In theory, it can work, especially if there's a clear, business like focus , and a pre determined idea of where the project is going.
Now, I don't think I really need to clarify the limitations creatively on this approach, or even point out the difference in broader mentality , but especially for a group of musicians trying to do something unique, or find a individual voice, - an absolutely chilling and deadly approach.Not to sound like that guy, but there's a good reason so much ground breaking music was born in garages and re purposed industrial spaces,- they are conducive to the creative process.Where you're not rushing, or limited by even more time constraints, as if it isn't already hard enough to find common free time ( and energy) of 3 or 4 different people.
When I talk to bands I don't know, I always ask about where they practice and write, - almost never suprised by the results.Peace.
cool comment, i think so too. renting or owning big spaces really lets your creative come out when you are constantly able to
Yes, but this approach isn't practical for 99% of musicians. Most of us have to deal with normal living conditions and keeping family and neighbors happy.
@@alfgwahigain5544 NFN, my friend, little has changed in this regaurd since the days of Beethoven; you decide the level of commitment to your art, and not unlike those caught between desires to be parents or sucessful business people, - it's almost impossible to be both.
You can usually tell the difference between the music of those who live it , 24/7, and those to whom it is a side job.The only mistake is thinking there will be no comprimises, and no results of those choices.Many have lived happily only for their music.
@@markferguson3745 I can't agree with this, but you're entitled to your opinion. Aside from being the greatest musical mind to ever live, there are several differences between Beethoven's time and now directly related to: technology, style, **patronage**, and culture. I agree with immersion and 100% commitment, but this is just not a good comparison.
@@markferguson3745 I work behind computer, often at night, and I play guitar whenever I want to take a break. Let say - two hours of working, one hour of playng. Don't want to loose time by going somewhere else to play and then back (although I have such place, but use it very rarely). For me it is a matter of seconds to start playing and having fun. You can check my channel to hear what kind of tones I have at home at bedroom level.
What about a comparison of small tube combos? Bassbreaker 007, Vox AC4C1, Blackstar HT-5, VHT Special 6, Marshall DSL5C, Bugera V5. There are no good comparisons of those online, and much less on how to achieve great tones with those. Also they are in a much more reasonable price range, just that attenuator costs as much as my amp + pedalboard :)
Because a Super Champ XD smokes them all and cost less.
Yeah checking on ebay or Reverb the Super Champ is in the same price range - perhaps also add it to a comparison? Would like to see them getting good tones out of them.
Ok, easy now, cowboy...
At one time or another I've tried almost all of the home amps you mention, and the Superchamp XD probably was my favorite- even over the newer X2. They all were good in one way or another (except the HT5) but for getting tons of great tones at low volume, XD was best. Even the little 8 inch speaker sounded great.
Green Meany It's the Vibro-Champ that has the 8" speaker. The Super-Champ has a 10" speaker. There's nothing wrong with an 8" speaker though at low to mid volumes. They'll fart out at high volumes, but they're just about right for a Vibro-Champ's requirements.
Knocked it out of the park again, guys. THANK YOU for all the great info. I work in a retail music store and our education center has 120 students. I'm always hipping our customers to your show as the BEST online source of tone info. Cheers!
In a single I recorded some 6 years ago or so, the guitar tones were an Orange AD30 pushed with a Fuzz Face into a 4x12 w/ V30s. A guy wrote to me(this was in the Myspace days) and said that was the guitar tone he'd been chasing for 10 years... when I informed him that the tones(the exact signal chain I just listed) were actually achieved with a POD X3, he never wrote back. LOL
That's pretty funny.
Sadistic.
The Bassbreaker sounds awesome!!!! EDIT: 1 year later and I still love my Bassbreaker 15 - fantastic amp for home use.
The best is the thr10, X, and C. I own all three they are godly. Just plug in and play. Perfect natural organic sounds. Even the controls behave like a real tube amp.
I gotta concur with this. Just spent a few hours with the Yamaha stuff and honestly....for home usage, they are just incredible. Agreed, to me the Yamaha stuff, for home/bedroom usage, absolutely seems to breath and flex like real valve stuff up to 95%+ of that way.
Joe Satchton Yes! THRC absolutely kills, especially for Blues and R&R. GREAT headphone out, also- best I've heard, and I've tried many.
The big difference with these amps over your normal guitar amps is that it's a desktop amp. If you put it there, close to your ears, it sounds wonderful.
Michael Lopez I bought the X and I couldn't bond with it. I use the Blackstar Fly 3 stereo rig now.
Wolves hey man I'm with you on that. The original thr10 and thr5 are better than both the black and green one. Go give that cream colored tannish looking one at guitar center. You're gonna love it.
I bought a Freyette. It's awesome. I love it. And now I have a use for all my 50w amps, and an effects loop on my vintage amps.
Fantastic!
My bedroom amp is a 72 twin reverb...the demonstration regarding how low volume with a proper am is, well, "meh," was spot on. I have been incredulous regarding attenuation until this video and was pleasantly surprised at the difference demonstrated. Looking forwards to a dedicated video for attenuators. The twin is a special thing...but offensive at its best at home.
Thanks again guys. Well done as always.
Ditto here. Using a twin reverb at home and looking at attenuation solutions.
What a great show! I've used an amp sim for two years now at home while learning. I just bought an AC15 which I thought may be too much at home. It is if I turn it up, but with a drive pedal and lower volume, I'm able to get an inspirational sound. Of course, cranked it shakes the floor! For amp sims, you really ought to give S-Gear a try. It sounds incredible and is one of the most realistic I've tried.
seems to me like the best way to improve bedroom sound is get a bigger bedroom not a smaller amp...
+Jos Taylor We love you. Wise, wise words.
Haha thanks guys, love the show!
Jos Taylor Yeah but your rent or a mortgage for that bigger room is going to cost more than a smaller amp.
@Southeastern777 "New girlfriend'? New accusations for having "too many guitars"
You sound like my 14 year old son.. "dad we need a bigger house so i dont have to go outside to play football".. damn spoiled bratt
Everything I do with just a couple exceptions is at low volume (NYC apartment) equal to a loud TV. I own a '64 Super Reverb, a Metro JTM45, and a Tweed Deluxe. Two have Lammar PPIMVs and the SR uses an attenuator. ***IMHO just buy whatever inspires you the most.*** Would a lot of my gear sound better un-attenuated or un-ppimv'd.....maybe/probably but who cares. I enjoy playing "cool" amps so much more than my Fender Mustang (sold it) or Amplitube through headphones or speakers.
Cool amp attenuated > purpose built "bedroom" amp....ignoring $$$ and weight. For late late night just use software and headphones.
I have a demo of many of the popular attenuators but beware...I am cliche as they come....nice gear...can't play for sh#t.
I have had a Yamaha THR10 for 5-6 years and some of the tones you can get out of it are outrageously good! Upgraded to the new 30 Watt second generation amp and using the line out capabilities and the wireless 'Airstep' foot switch by Xsonic Audio, I now use the amp for gigging! Really would recommend a Yamaha THR 30ii, quite possibly the best purchase I have ever made.
Amplitube is like The Sims for guitar gear, not really life like but you can spend hours creating absurd things
Justin Garcia very well said
@Zach Ball on a budget hx stomp is really good. The new Neural DSP seems like the top of the heap right now, tho pricey
@Zach Ball I mean with the hxstomp you have somewhat accurate recreations of those sounds and can set up a multi amp rig inside the unit. So I would just spend time going back n forth between your rig and the stomp tuning it in. Other things to have/consider are a good pair of headphones and/or a fr/fr monitor, like the headrush 8, to hear yourself with. Personally I've gone the way of a hybrid system. I use a two notes Captor x to turn my existing tube amps into headphone amps.
Never liked it myself. I like the Spark
One of your most relevant videos, great job!
I bought a Yamaha thr5 2 years ago, easily the best gear investment I have bought in a long long time.
I love this video. it took me going through 10 different amps and 4 years to come to this realization of how to play at home and get good tones.
This has to be one of the best videos you guys have ever done. will save alot of players time and and a load of cash.
I got a THR10 last year and love it. It's taken a lot of play time from my tube combos. I even use it for demo recording.
Ok, I've watched the whole thing now. Nice job. A few thoughts-
1) You should hit up the folks at Yamaha for a sales commission.
2) The biggest revelation for me was how good the Kingsley Page sounded with the Yamaha. That's always been the concern for me. I have pedals and I like to use them but if I get a small digital amp, will it render them (the overdrive pedals at least) useless.
3) The amplitude i-rig demo was great. I've long wanted to see that. Knowing myself though, I'd go too far down the rabbit hole of trying to find fun stuff, the Jimi Hendrix setups and all that. I wouldn't practice actual guitar playing enough, but it might still be fun. Also, I use my computer for my day job work stuff- MS Word Documents and Excel Spreadsheets and I don't want to combine those two worlds, mentally, and physically in my home.
4) Mick is absolutely right, bassbreaker 15 over the blues jr. in a heartbeat.
5) Dan's tele continues to be an amazing sounding guitar.
Loved the THR segment, Dan is so right about setting it up with your normal pedals. Have you ever tried the THR10C? (the blue one) I reckon that would be right up Micks street, its got a load of classic 'blues' style amps modeled. (Twin Reverb, Matchless DC30, Blues Jr, Bluesbreaker and a Dr Z Mini Z for some slightly more pushed sounds. The delay is also analogue modeled as well.) Sounds fantastic!
+srYYZ need to try that one
For my home recording it’s been an Orange Micro-Terror 20W with the 8” cab and a Subzero Tweed 15W combo with it’s 6.5” speaker. I love having the stereo sound. I record both with SM57s at very low volumes and use diverse pedals for drive, distortion, fuzz delay, etc... This setup has been an inspiring upgrade from the Amplitube and Amp Farm plugins which I was using for years. It just sounds SO much better. It’s awesome getting back to amps (even if small) and pedals again instead of using the plugins where the beautiful graphics never quite match the sound. I keep comparing my sound files to the old ones and I’m always pleasantly surprised at how much warmer, crunchier and downright superior everything sounds now. I also use the ART Pro MPA II 2-Channel Tube Mic Pre which just adds extra transients and warmth to everything.
I have Amplitube 4/Mesa Boogie pack and like it for just jamming sometimes late night and in certain situations. But a couple years ago I got away from modeling and went back to amps and even sold my cab and just got a Suhr reactive load and just use impulse responses. I just record though. Don't play live but I find the real amps and pedals deal way more fun and inspiring. Awesome video guys!
Dan, please play your Les Paul more!
Sincerely,
Les Paul players who love the show.
Yes ! Dan's tone pushed me over the edge purchasing a les paul. I guess he wants me to buy a tele too..
+1 million
I like his Les Paul, but prefer his Tele.
Totally agree. Way too much pedal RUclips content is Fender based which doesn't help us LP players!
I agree, but what I definetly wanna hear is more of that Gretsch Great Sound of your Anniversary! I know that not much people playGretsches, but some of us do!
Great video guys, as always!
Can you please make a video about home recording setup rigs, from loadboxes to audio interfaces and so on?
Also what's your opinion on using that kind of setup for low volume home practicing versus an attenuator? Maybe you can address this part on the upcoming attenuators show :)
It would be great to hear what you think about all this and it sounds like a nice idea for a show too!
Cheers from Portugal
Great show, guys. I'm very happy with my THR10C. It sounds great and Yamaha seem to have found the sweet spot where it feels simple and full featured at the same time.
You know, every demo of that Yamaha amp I've ever heard it's sounded great. One of the best value little amps on the market IMHO.
A colder preamp tube will greatly enhance your home, tube amp experience. I'm using a 12AY7 and 12AU7 (depending on what sound I want) in my old Princeton Reverb and that helps a LOT! I like it so much, I think the 12AX7 sounds awful now. WAY too hot for me.
One of the best videos yet, thanks guys! My heart sank a bit when you mentioned Facebook live videos. I'm a grumpy mid-forties git who hates Facebook with a passion. Is there some way I can find out when you are going to stream live without constantly checking Facebook?
+ForViewingOnly They get saved onto Facebook so you can view them any time. Mick here - I too am a grumpy 40s git and hate Facebook as well. :0)
Thanks Mick. As an alternative to Facebook, RUclips live streams are great fun, and all of your RUclips subscribers can interact in real time... although the hundreds of real-time comments can be a bit overwhelming for the hosts! :-)
Bought the THR10 a week ago after watching this video. Can’t praise it enough, absolutely love it. Very easy to use and great sounds from such a small unit. Plugged it into the Mac and found you get a few other effects to use like a compressor and noise gate and you can choose various cabs.
I’m going to be returning my long term loan Marshall MG100 DFX as this Yamaha is all I want now
Bought one of these second hand for £90 off ebay a month ago. It's brilliant, not just good for the money but brilliant. I've got a Marshall plexi and Blackstar Ht5 so although I'm a crap guitarist I do have some decent gear for reference and a couple of very good guitars and any half decent guitarist will sound good through the Yamaha.
my answer was a Mesa Express + 5-15-25 -all tube --2 channel switchable you can drive the preamp while controlling the output at bedroom levels. I added a good TC delay and Strymon reverb and Keeley compressor and a secondary Euphoria pedal an old Boss chorus pedal and an old Mu-tron Wah -vol and an amp for stereo. All on good power --Lovely---not inexpensive but works for me
i've tried Amplitube several times, and while recorded it does sound really good, i find it horrible to play through and totally uninspiring.
thats my main rig
I recommend you delete amplitube immediately and install positive grid's bias amp . You are welcome
Ewwwww bias is even worse, sounds like you playing through a happy meal box
For rehearsing parts on the go GarageBand is best. You can start a backing track on your laptop and save it to the cloud and play along on an iPhone (with interface). As long as your tone doesn't require massive wha or expression pedal usage it's great to run stuff at coffee shop or wherever shoegazers reside.
That has been my experience as well. I've tried for years to like Amplitude and it seems to work fine for many but I could never get along with it. I gave up on that and thought I'd try the Fender Mustang III v2 for lower volume / headphone playing. It was better but I think the modeling sounds much better & different through the speaker than headphones. A separate set of headphone optimized patches helps with that though.
Then I found scuffham s-gear. Sounds great & responds like an amp. It has a standalone and vst/audiounit/aax. Search is over for silent/headphone/DAW amp plugin playing. On top of that the owner (MIke Scuffham) runs a straight up customer first company. I recommend you try the demo (14 day no-nag trial)
One thing I've always wondered about these types of videos is, how do you not blow your f*cking ears out when you crank a 100W amp to 8 or so? How big is the room you guys are in?
Please do an all Boss pedal special! You could feature both vintage and new Boss pedals. That would be really neat. Thanks guys, and keep up the good work!
Great show. I have gained so much useful, and by that I mean inspiring, information from That Pedal Show. One take away today: I play too loud at home! I have a Princeton and an old Musicmaster bass amp (12 & 10 watts), and finding a combination of amp settings and pedals has been fun, but also very...confusing at times, I guess. They sound good at louder volumes. Good clean. I have played around with different speakers in both. You guys helped to clear a path for me to get to a point of hearing a sound I want to hear using pedals, because nothing seemed to hit the mark before I started putting information from this show into practice. I was hit or miss before that. I learned to do proper setups on my guitars at home, first. That was huge. Everything past the guitar jack I think I have mostly navigated by information from your shows. I happened upon a couple Catalinbread "foundation" pedals, basically amp in a box pedals, that also really helped get there for me sound-wise. But I would have had no idea how to use those pedals with other pedals without you guys. For the past month or so I have thought, " how do I take this sound and turn it down but keep it?" And today you flipped on an attenuator! I have been looking at 18 and 20 watt Marshall-type amps, but not pulling the trigger. Thank you!!
I'm actually pretty loud at home. My neighbours don't actually talk about it but they secretly hate me. I love it!
+Phoebus-Delatte And we love you! Just don't move next to us please. ;0£
I have an ac15 and a Vox Vtx40 and I still love my THR10. Might offload the bigger amps and get a nice Tele.
how would you vtx40 with thr10? Especially for crunch tones.
This and the Blues Junior video are saving my life while I'm home from uni, in a tiny bedroom in the corner of a very thin walled house; thanks a bunch!
Excited for the attenuator episode. I would love it if you guys would do an episode on speaker cabinets! Obviously they are not pedals, but you guys explain and demonstrate so well how to get different sounds. Many of us do not have access to try lots of different types of cabinets and really understand the differences in sound. I would be so interested to see/hear a 2x10 compared to 1x12, 1x15 compared to 2x12, compared to 4x12 , closed back vs open back et. . I am learning a lot about tone from your show and the speaker cabinets can be such an important part. There are some demonstrations online, but not to the quality of your show.
37:57 is the exact texture of the opening chord in Won't get Fooled Again. Just a couple steps lower.
I think he's tuned down half a step but yeah similar, I think there was more sustain/distortion on that song but good catch
Thanks for the great video! You guys are the best in the biz!
Great video. Thanks for tackling this difficult to record issue that so many other youtubers avoid.
I find I do so much in-the-box that I rarely record an amp anymore.
I started messing with computer music waaay back in the 80s. Back when the IBM PC still only had a speaker I was using a Commodore Amiga to do multichannel stereo 8 bit audio sequencing. I've watched software program after program come along to be a 'guitar amp' or effects boxes and they were always tinny and weak but an obvious progression.
These days though it is stunning what you can achieve with a bit of software. I've got tones for all my favourite artists that I can re-create with pedals or right in the DAW. Impulse responses take it to another level. As the prices drop and the software improves it is only going to get easier for people to make music. Fantastic!
Given you had the Victory Duchess tucked away behind I was hoping you'd find a minute to discuss whether the low power modes on such amps have a negative effect on the tone; is it (more or less) the same but softer or does the reduction weaken the tone, and either way, does it warrant EQ as was mentioned re the Fryette?
You guys should try sticking a clean boost in a tube amp inside the effects loop and set it to a very mild gain. I do this and find it opens up the amp at low volumes and drives the power tubes just enough to clean up some pre amp fizz. I do this with a mini spark boost or even an EP boost set to about 9oclock and it works well. It can even help clean up fuzz on an orange which are notoriously fuzzy at under half volume
Attenuation is probably much better but this is a cheap option for people that already have a clean boost.
Lee E I am going to try that today. I have a jvm1c and a mini boost
That's a sweet amp! I have been looking for a 1 watt Marshall to pop up on the market for a while but seems like nobody is ever selling them. Good luck
Lee E interesting tip man-will try it out
90s Guitar Covers Z z.
I would definitely like to have a update on this topic, I know for you guys it’s not an issue but for a lot of us plugging in and playing at home is the only place we have to play and I have four kids. I’m on a limited budget. I can’t afford you amps and guitars you guys play through regularly so tips on budget rigs mean a lot to me and I’m sure to other people in my situation.
Best TPS ever.
Everything Mick and Dan do, and the gear that they demonstrate on the show is so inspiring, but it's impossible to recreate at home with neighbors, so it becomes really discouraging.
THIS episode shows that there's gear out there that let's you be BOTH creative and a considerate neighbor -- AND it gets the coveted stamp-of-approval from Mick and Dan!
Thanks, guys!
+AtomicMug cheers Mr Mug :))
Can you please do a show on guitar tones for recording?
+Ollie Stacks yes we can ;)
Awesome!
For decades I've done a lot of my home practicing acoustically... as in solid body electric guitar not plugged into anything at all. The dynamics are the best you'll ever get, and I think its done amazing things for my picking technique. The only downside is that you can get lazy with muting of unwanted strings if you don't practice cranked up occasionally... you've got to be aware that when you plug in at high volume you are gonna hear strings ringing that you wouldn't notice when playing acoustically.
There are several things I could definitely not play at all without any amplification. Yet I agree, it is improving my picking technique.
Just catching this episode now. How incredibly valuable it is. And - for me - timely, as I just got a yamaha and bought one for my brother, too.
Beautiful Jam ( and Tone ) to open the Show . . . " Wow " that was Special
Hey guys ! i was wondering if it would be interesting to make a TPS on matching "uncommon" guitars with pedals (especially guitars with weird pickups, i.e. very high or very low output such as jazzmasters, gold foil pickups, filter-trons...)
I think it would be pretty fun to see you guys treat yourself and play with odd guitars, but would it be of any interest ?
By the way, you did a fantastic job as always. cheers !
Can you do a show on how you get your wives to let you buy more gear? :)
+Robert Shaw You have to make 'Messing About With Guitars' your job. Then it's always for work, see. :0)
Dont ask dont tell has always been mo for 28 years. No problem
I got my first Tele for a good price from a guy whos (ex)wife made him sale an old guitar if he wanted to buy new one. I have to thank that woman, I love that Tele, it has a spilt humbucker at the neck and the warmest, bassy, muffy sound I've ever heard from a Tele live.
@Rodney McMinge I had to pawn my 74' Stratocaster, that I bought for 500 bucks back in 97', during the last "crisis", caused by my ex-cunt-wife; so glad she's gone! I still haven't recovered from the loss of my 74' Stratocaster...
I never played so much guitar as now that I have got a THR for home use. What ever way you use for get a decent sound at home is the key for getting better at guitar. I don't have an attenuator and I don't plan to get one , surely not for home use. The THR sounds so much better at home than any valve amp , simply fantastic. The reverb quality and the stereo speakers set can make you feel inspired also at a pretty low volume . A personal suggestion is to place it right in front of you, couple of feet away and to tilt it a bit and make it shoot directly at your face, that can give a false volume impression and maximizes the reverb stereo image.
I love the Yamaha for two reasons, its super easy to plug in to, and when you dig in hard it distorts and when you play soft its clean. I have the classic C model but all the speaker cabs have been tweaked in the software. The yamaha can be edited too and it works on US voltage and overseas. Great show guys.
oh , and it fits in the overhead bin of an Airbus A320
+Chris wumperone The C model is my fave. (Mick here). Great little amp!
thr10 or similar amp are the best choice for bedroom playing with good tones... a small tube amp is always too loud for home, I have a mini jubilee and at 5 w sounds good..but not good like my thr10...
I don't guess we could get those THR10 presets could we? They were pretty lush! Also were you using the newer 2.0 firmware? Great episode guys
Was looking at the comments section just in case someone already asked! Dan, it would be awesome if there was a way for you to share those, they sounded great!
Yeah if you use the editing software you can export a patch or your entire library.
I agree! There's a good site for sharing: guitarpatches.com/patches.php?unit=THR10 . Dan, please share your patches!
Yeah, that would be great to get those patches - I LOVE my THR-10 - It's a brilliantly simple and easy-to-use amp, and recording with the USB is fantastic for home studio use.
I've been limited to low-volume playing for a very long time and the simplicity of that Yamaha amp appeals to me; fiddling with a computer may give more variety but it's an added layer of cost, complication, and cables. Bravo for covering this subject and please consider doing it repeatedly since most players aren't able to crank up their sound (I'm guessing.)
Thanks guys, this is great. I mentioned on another thread (which Mick was kind enough to respond to) that I play a tele at home through a THR 10c. I love it - it feels like an amp, and responds dynamically like a tube amp would. It's a perfect solution for me at home, and running on batteries and being an MP3 player we use it as a great portable MP3 player. It's a fantastic little thing - it even has an acoustic amp setting that I run my D28 through sometimes. Amazing.
So, having had it for 6 months or so I have started experimenting with a few pedals. I bought a TC Electronic Flashback delay, which I also love, and not surprisingly which works well through the amp. While the amp does have a tape delay, there are so many more options with the TC. This also goes with a reverb pedal - I have considered picking up a reverb pedal even as the amp has a really nice set of reverbs. I also recently bought a TC Mojomojo overdrive to experiment with drive over top, as well as a Big Muff nano. I can say that the drive and fuzz also works well into the amp - it allows you to get different sounds through it and go beyond what the amp provides. It also reminds me to play dynamically, using the volume knob on the guitar to control breakup sounds.
The only issues I've had with the amp is the absence of an effects loop and the limitations of running all the pedals off the front, and the rather arbitrary limitation of the amp, tube and cabinet models available on each iteration of the model. It would be nice to have access to all the amp, tube, cabinet simulations and all the possible effects on one unit. I know that there are many people who wouldn't mind a happy medium inbetween the 10 and the full sized 100 with the features of the 100. There's certainly room on the amp cabinet for it, and the whole thing has a very analog vibe about it - plugging into the computer moves away from the feel they're trying to create with it, and I'm certainly not running the computer when I take it to a friend's place to play. I'd certainly pay more for more features on the cab.
My solution for not having an effects loop will probably be to get the complimentary THR10 to add to my 10c, as it's about the same price as a pricier pedal. I'll add an A/B switcher and have a stereo rig if I want it, with the ability to loop one sound through one and then play overtop of the other with a different sound. Sophisticated wanking! There's the added benefit of having someone over and they can just plug straight in to the second amp and not have to lug their own gear over. This is how I justify things!
Above all it has allowed me to play with great tone and flexibility at home, and be inspired by what I'm playing.
need one of those Yamaha Amps..
Definitely was a game changer for me. I love playing my big amps, but it's just so nice being able to practice just sitting on the couch watching tv or late at night with the THR. Also, the ease of connecting it to your computer for quick recordings is a great feature.
What about amps like the Boss Katana 50w that can be turned down to 0.5w. This would allow you to take the Amp out for band practice/gigging and also have the FX loop to be able to set up more like you would do if gigging. I know it doesn't have the advantage of being on a shelf to appease your significant other but is cheaper than the Yamaha THR10 yet more versatile. Can also be used with an Acoustic too.
Also there is the Boss JS-10 that offers the GT100 effects, ability to plug in a mic/2nd Guitar and a LOT of backing tracks built in. Full range speakers and decent volume for the same price - less of an 'Amp' though. I still think this has a lot of functionality for the bedroom player to practice with - even has a tuner and can slow down tracks to hear and practice over. I think its a fantastic option for the bedroom player. I find it gets tedious practising with just a guitar and amp so having all those backing tracks etc really helps - its also much nicer to practice timings with a backing track compared to an annoying metronome.
I agree with everyone else. This is what we've all been waiting for. Well done. Looking forward to the attenuator show since I have not tried that route. I currently use a Blackstar HT20 Studio and Pro Jr with pedals. Been seriously looking at the modeling amps recently but haven't pulled the trigger. I think you guys hit the nail on the head with this show. I think there are a ton of us out there playing at bedroom volume buying pedals and small amps.
I'm only 12 minutes in and I already know this great episode. Such a great topic.
The Bassbreaker amps just sound tonally quite dull to me.. and the gain is really fizzy and uninteresting.
Brilliant video mates... off to buy a Fryette now... *checks price* GAHHHH
+Aaron Sternke (Tonestructor) hahahaha
I bought a Vox Adio. I live in an apartment in Europe and I used to use the Vox AC4TV and a Fender 600 but the neighbors always complained. These small amps like the Yamaha and Vox are perfect for home use, but now I have a wall covered with the pedals I am not using at the moment.
I’ve got a fender blue junior, & I keep the volume & master set to 3 with about 5 on my strat. Perfect range for my apartment.
I have no wife...but I do have 4 ,100 watt marshall heads and 4x12 cabs in my living room. Lucky me!!!
You need three humdingers and TRS patch cables to daisy chain those rascals together. rock on.
YAAAAAAA!
Priorities!
Yamaha THr = problem solved. It's the only digital amp I've not returned.
@Giant Killer So sir, it has a backlight that makes it look tube but is't totally digital. The tones are unbeatable for a digital amp and the knobs (no screens and buttons) make it play like a real amp. It's a bit more than other digital amps but... you won't return it! PS: it can run off batteries, too!
Mate I have an ac15 and a Vox Vtx40 and I still love my THR10. Might offload the bigger amps and get a nice Tele.
Perfectly timed fellas. I'm on my way to Andertons tomorrow to buy a new Amp for home use.......and now I'm tempted to blow it all on that Morgan MVP23 with built in attenuator.....
Brett Hussey The MVP23 works very well for home playing and I probably play quieter than most, 70 - 75 dB.
I have a THR10c. I was astounded at the sound that comes out of an amplifier. I love it!
Guys, I am surprised that you still haven't done anything with the atomic amplifire. Hope to see you demoing it!
The sound coming out of that tele never ceases to amaze.
Nerd mode on: adding 10db roughly equates to doubling the loudness so in the section where you wound up from 80ish to 100ish things got 4x louder than where you started from.
Notes to self. Might have to buy Yamaha THR5 for offspring. Might have to buy telecaster. Must stop using 50W head and Fender 4x12 for daily twiddling.
Just bought a THR 10. Had it a couple of years ago for two days. Didn’t like it. Bought another one now. Now I love it! I was totally wrong 🙏
I tell people all the time that my THR is the best guitar related purchase I've ever made. Their marketing is spot on. It makes practicing electric guitar so easy and fun.
@Stig Brautaset an effects loop would've been nice. I use my THR with my looper pedal all the time, and the only gripe I have is that the built in effects apply to the whole loop if you choose to use them. You can't just overdub a riff with some chorus ontop of your loop, unless you want the whole loop to have chorus. It's really not a huge deal. It's a practice amp, not a gigging amp.
Hi guys, will you do a Noise Gate show this month?
+Phil Doughty Probably not Phil. We don't use em. Cheers!
Phil Doughty Those are mainly important for metal, some rock players use them, but almost all metal / metalcore / djent players essentially need a noise gate
+Oracle's Gaming & Tech Yep, and that really isn't us. Dan and I don't move in that world and we're not very knowledgable about it, so best to go elsewhere for that. Cheers!
That Pedal Show Yeah, that's what I meant with the comment 😊
I tried a noise gate before and it killed my sound, especially on the clean channel. There was no sustain. I can take a bit of hiss, just not a loss of sustain. The main noise I find hard to tame is the squealy high-pitched feedback. I end up rolling off the treble to tame it, but sometimes I have to roll it off more than I would like.
When are you guys going to start actually reviewing gear? I'd love to see you do a whole video on just one pedal or a line of pedals, especially some of the more far out stuff that Moog do (Moogerfoogers and the like).
EDIT: Similar to the AB comparisons you do. I just wanna see you do some Moog stuff, they really have their heads screwed on right, they're definitely making some of the best pedals available at the mo. The MoogerFooger Cluster Flux is a godsend, and the MoogerFooger delay is really cool too.
+Linus Martin We're not a review channel. Bloody waste of time (Mick here). For example: I can't stand most super posh boutique guitars and I struggle to be inspired to play them. I blimmin love Gretsches and Danelectros and knackered old Fenders that barely stay in tune and we're basically thrown together. I get music from those. And then other people are the exact opposite. Neither one of us is right - it's just all personal preference.
TPS is about celebrating that - helping people understand stuff that they might want to ask their own questions about, rather than us providing some answers.
Moog. Yes, we should try some. Synths are my kryptonite so the brand has never appealed. Again, just an opinion. Everyone says they're awesome!
I didn't so much mean reviewing every new pedal that comes out, I just thought it would be cool to hear about some pedals you really like in more depth, and why they're better than similar pedals on the market. And if you've never tried the Moog MoogerFooger Cluster Flux, you're seriously missing out. I got one a few months ago and haven't been able to turn it off since.
And thanks for replying!
That Pedal Show Mick, you should definitely look at their pedals :o the cluster flux is amazing, although probably not really your thing i guess, although it can be tamed to do a basic chorus. but that isn't really it's strength :)
A DRRI is almost always the answer. Loud enough for small clubs; At home, with the volume just cracked is TV volume, gorgeous and clean or goosed with tube screamer or something still sounds awesome. I also have a little AC4 which is also a killer sounding amp but the bigger box and speaker make the DR is no comparison, sounds like a proper amp.
As a bedroom/apartment writer (nothing really big happening in Maine) this episode was perfect for me! Thank you for another great video Gents.
Positive Grid Bias FX is phenomenal, try it out people!
My problem is I like to play louder at home than most gigs would allow lol
+MrBingping Yep! That's becoming the case for lots of people!
That Pedal Show can't really blame em, I keep my 59 bassman absolutely dimed lol
That Pedal Show thank god for attenuators!
So I was saving for years to finally get a valve amp, I don't have a band right now, and I love Vox tone, so AC30 was the way to go. Since you need volume to get the sound, I was looking about all the different options AC4's with 10", 12", AC10's, AC15's etc. I wanted an amp to train me in dynamics, also looked for Fender's, etc. That little Yamaha is making me think it twice, it sounds awesome! For gigs I own a Marshall MG250DFX, which everyone says its crap, but it actually takes pedals very well and I like when cranked up. I need to own a barn in the fields, then I'll own a couple oc AC30's. Meanwhile I guess I'll rather spend my money on that small amp.
Great video.. I finally got to hear a OCD through a bassbreaker 15. Probably my next 2 purchases.
Gas detected every where lol
I'm so glad I'm divorced and no longer have to live in a situation where, although I'm paying for everything, it's all for my wife and god forbid I have something in "our" house that displeases her. The very idea of a "man cave" is deeply offensive.
Ban Man Caves. Long live the She Shed!
An enthusiastic second on the Power Station. I use mine to quiet down a Hiwatt, boost up a Champ & Vibro Champ and also match impedances between amps & cabs that otherwise wouldn't play well with each other. It sounds great in all these applications. Terrific piece of gear.
I bought a 1968 Vibro Champ from Emerald City Guitars on my last tour through Seattle - what a great home/lessons amp. It has two inputs and it's so lightweight that I take it as my green room warm up amp, songwriting on the bus, sitting in on lead guitar with acoustic singer songwriters, travel amp for lessons, studio amp, and get a great tone at reasonable volumes at home. Buy a little Champ and use pedals if you need drive! Hard to go wrong. When the spouse/family/neighbors are out, crank that little guy up and it's a pretty glorious noise without peeling the paint off of the walls.
Y'all need to wear earplugs seriously, I'm so worried for your ears.
Man, I'm getting worried about this "bedroom volume" thing. It seems that everybody is giving up on the legacy of the mighty electric guitar and starting to turn it down. Where's the rock? Why are guitarists becoming huge pussies afraid of their girlfriends and the old lady next door? Jesus, be a man or a woman and turn it up. The only excuse for turning your guitar down is if you suck at it. You gotta have volume to feel the rock, man. Let's stop this "bedroom volume" nonsense. Either turn it up or turn it off.
+bigJohnnybabyboy We like you Johnny. Please stay with us and keep our spirits up!
But I don't wanna be evicted
One of the dummest comments of all time
Lol, I feel you, bro. I started gradually turning it up at home late at night a couple of months ago and surprisingly nobody in the family wakes up or complains. It feels great. If it turns into a problem they will definitely tell me and of course I will turn down, but yeah take a chance on rocking out!
Yes! Yamaha love. Nev sold me an AC30 once that I only ever used at home. Well used once before realising you can't have an AC30 as a bedroom amp! THX all the way now.
Quite enjoyed this video. One thing that I think escapes many guitarists is the differences in how the human ear perceives frequencies or in effect "loudness" at various SPLs. This is why a tool such as the Power Station is so useful, because adjustments can be made that give the aural satisfaction we're looking for since we're used to full on amps and the low volume simply isn't doing it for us. Old hi-fi amps and receivers sometimes had a "loudness" switch for this effect. Valves, transformers, and speakers all get a bit magical when working hard...yes that's true... but also how your ears are perceiving sound is quite relative to SPL.