Setting Up Your Amp To Use With Drive Pedals

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    In this episode, Daniel and Mick attempt to throw some light on how to think about setting your amp up for different drive pedals.
    Bottom line, the gain and EQ structure of your amp has a huge influence on how your drive pedals sound, feel and react.
    The guys begin with a late-1970s Fender Twin with EV speakers and a Mallard 18-watt Marshall clone through Greenbacks.
    They use a Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive and Electro-Harmonix Nano Big Muff Pi into both amps, to demonstrate the extent of just how different your pedals can sound, depending on which kind of amp you use - the difference is remarkable!
    They then move on to an amplifier that sits between the classic Marshall and Fender schools in terms of gain and EQ structure, the Hamstead Artist 20, to explain how you might think about setting up your amp and drive pedal to get the sound and feel you desire.
    There's a little bit of discussion on delay and reverb, but this is predominantly about drive and distortion.
    Daniel is playing is Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster; Mick is playing his Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster.
    Switching is handled effortlessly as ever by TheGigRig G2.
    As ever, there are no answers - we're just trying to help you ask better questions in pursuit of your ideal sound!
    For more on TheGigRig, see www.thegigrig.com
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  • @davejones8680
    @davejones8680 8 лет назад +257

    I'm approaching 40, and started learning to play guitar when I was around 15. In between, there were a lot of years when I didn't play that much for various reasons (none of them very good). Anyway, over the last few years I've committed to rebuilding my rig and getting back into a passion that I've cared about deep in my soul ever since I was a kid. Finding this show is one of the very best things that's happened to me as a guitar player. It is the friendliest, most accessible set of explanations I've ever been able to find about pedals and amplifiers. From a Yank living in the cold, snowy American upper Midwest (Minneapolis), thank you guys for this show. I love it.

    • @Subtle-System
      @Subtle-System 8 лет назад +3

      That's awesome dude... I love this show and most of the time they are great, but they are beig totally misleading here on how a Big Muff will sound on different amps without dialing them differently for each amp... That is absolute rubbish, but most other episodes are great... Not this one .

    • @rmcunningham3874
      @rmcunningham3874 7 лет назад +3

      Same situation. Same experience. This channel has been such an inspiration. I can't believe how much more fun it is to play with sounds when I have some idea of what I'm doing!
      Highly recommend the Anderton's channel as well if you haven't stumbled across it. There's a similar positive vibe over there.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 7 лет назад +4

      Same. Played from 14-24 then put it down for 15 years. Started getting serious again around 3 years ago. Love it.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 7 лет назад +3

      Wampler is also a good channel.

    • @utooberblooper
      @utooberblooper 6 лет назад

      STOP BEING AN IDIOT AND GET A LAUGH OUT OF IT,the twin sounds like ass.............. period......

  • @maxsalasr
    @maxsalasr 9 лет назад +58

    Guys, your vídeos are a masterclass. Loved them. Just so much info all together, so valuable. I just don't have words to describe how much I have learned lately with you guys. THANKS SO MUCH

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад +7

      max salas absolutely our pleasure Max, feedback like this makes it all worthwhile ;)

    • @a21drs
      @a21drs 7 лет назад

      max salas I've watched almost every video from this guys, up until this day and indeed they are a masterclass. I got a lot better with my sound, based on their videos

    • @jarrydee2799
      @jarrydee2799 7 лет назад

      I love the videos also, sometimes way to much talking, but still good

  • @boozoochavis7506
    @boozoochavis7506 6 лет назад

    This goes back to the fact that we as musicians and guitar players do NOT hang out or play music together as much as we used to! In the bad old days, pre interent, there was a serious lack of knowledge and the best place to discover some real truths was from our peers and elders - people who knew because they had done said effort. I learned more from guys like Dan and Mick than I ever did reading 6 different brands of guitar magazine.

  • @bmorr6734
    @bmorr6734 7 лет назад

    Fantastic information, you gentlemen saved me years of pissing around. You guys are the best. Thank you

  • @wendelllaffin240
    @wendelllaffin240 9 лет назад

    Thanks for the great videos. These are great demos. I am learning a lot about pedals... how to use them, where to place them, and how they sound dynamically different on different amplifiers. Keep them coming, i definitely look forward to more.

  • @PeteCalandra
    @PeteCalandra 9 лет назад

    those silver face twins from that era do sound great on a fender rhodes piano tho. I used one way back in the day and loved the sound.

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад +1

      petercalandra yeah, they can sound ace! its all about what's going into them. Cheers Peter, thanks for watching ;)

  • @caleshtcincredibles
    @caleshtcincredibles 8 лет назад

    again spot on class on mixing pedals , Amps and tones .....thanks guys !

  • @JohnDoe9764
    @JohnDoe9764 8 лет назад

    The "Diezel Schmidt" uses kathod biased EL34s (or KT77s, 6L6s, KT66s, KT88s, 5881s, 6505s or 6V6s) as well :)

  • @aaronabubo
    @aaronabubo 9 лет назад

    Best sound in the video: big muff into the fender twin.

  • @johnmaseratis
    @johnmaseratis 8 лет назад

    Thanks gentlemen - I found this really helpful (AND entertaining).

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 8 лет назад +1

    Love these guys videos.

  • @michaelkelley5119
    @michaelkelley5119 9 месяцев назад +1

    I just wanna know if you should have your amp on the clean channel or the overdrive channel that’s all I meant

  • @aidanscrivens8923
    @aidanscrivens8923 9 лет назад

    I know this video isn't about that tele, but what are the specs on that guitar? Tonewoods and pickups? It sounds fantastic

  • @mybluemars
    @mybluemars 8 лет назад

    You guys are awesome!

  • @SRM335
    @SRM335 8 лет назад

    Great video. Would there be a big difference in how this all sets up if we are using humbuckers vs. single coils?

  • @wilfredoolivenciaolivencia4724
    @wilfredoolivenciaolivencia4724 6 лет назад

    Gentlemen,would the JHS Angry Charlie sound good with the Twin Reverb?

  • @neilbantugan
    @neilbantugan 8 лет назад

    do you mean is it ok to plug a DS-1 to a fender twin rather than JCM 800?

  • @abond623
    @abond623 7 лет назад

    What if I use a clean clear amp (Roland JC), run it though a Drive Pedal first, then a Compressor, then the Fuzz/Distortion (maybe the Big Muff), and then a Noise Gate?

  • @scottmclennan692
    @scottmclennan692 8 лет назад

    Thanks for a good vid fellas, i have a question for you or rather would like your opinion? im running tuner, wah, maxxon 808 and delay in that order to the front end of my OR100. i have a phase 90 and blue sky in the effects loop.. my question is if i put my delay in the loop as well my reverb should always be last.. yes?? sigh.. or should I keep the delay in front end.. its a standard carbon copy.. thanks to anyone who might have an idea ! cheers from victoria BC.

    • @teunputker
      @teunputker 8 лет назад

      Experiment and see what you like. There's no good or bad.

  • @vasileiospapadopoulos6268
    @vasileiospapadopoulos6268 7 лет назад

    So guys i have a question and I'll be very greatfull if you can help me.
    I really like the fender supersonic 22 but all my friends tell my not to buy it. And thats because its clean channel has not a full equalizer the mids are missing. So if i get bored of the beautifull dirt that this amp produces i cant have a really reliable clean chanell to put my drive pedals on. And they tell my that is better to buy a twin or a super reverb. Please help

  • @xMasterxRazorx
    @xMasterxRazorx 9 лет назад

    What was the volume set to on the Marshall?

  • @supercrackhead100
    @supercrackhead100 8 лет назад

    great vid, the only thing that would have made it better would be if a les paul was thrown in there

  • @herrlogi
    @herrlogi 9 лет назад +96

    Man this video is perfect for showing people/my wife why I need to buy more amps!

  • @777Yoni
    @777Yoni 8 лет назад +47

    Big Muff + Twin Reverb + Miku pedal = apocalypse?

  • @anthonyknight5114
    @anthonyknight5114 9 лет назад +37

    Ok guys, I love your videos. They are very insightful, but I just have one problem with this segment. This video was supposed to be about setting up your amp to work with drive pedals. To me, it seemed like the bottom line here was throw out your Fender and Marshall amps if you're going to use certain drive pedals, and get a Hamstead because it will seemingly handle everything better than the latter two. You demoed the Fender with the fuzz pedal and said it had a "bad sound". You also demoed the Marshall clone with the SD1 it also had a "bad sound", but my problem here is that you never gave any suggestion or insight on how to remedy these "bad sounds" if you happen to own these amps. I have a Marshall JCM 800 clone, but what I don't have is time or money to endlessly try and buy pedals to find ones that work best. I, like most I assume, have to make the best out of what we have so to that effect, it would have been nice for you to share some tips on overcoming the sort of flaws in these two amps in regards to using drive pedals.

    • @Slothclawcolseslaw
      @Slothclawcolseslaw 4 года назад +5

      The moral of the story is pick the right pedals for your amps circuit. You don’t have to buy to try them out. Bring your rig to your local guitar store and throw some different things in front of it. Or just google which pedals work best with a jcm800 (cough tubescreamer cough).

    • @davidbrookes9424
      @davidbrookes9424 4 года назад +3

      @@wildbob I noticed the tone knob on the muff was all the way to the right which is very bright. If they had of turned the tone knob down a little it may have introduced some more mid range on the Fender.

    • @josearalat
      @josearalat 2 года назад

      Totally agree with you. What a waste of my time this video was.

  • @cyberdel
    @cyberdel 6 лет назад +9

    Dan's voice sounds different here.. I was like "who's voice is that!?"

  • @Jaspertine
    @Jaspertine 8 лет назад +14

    That muff into the twin sound really takes me back to the days of watching noisy as fuck punk bands at all ages shows when I was a teenager. I have a startling amount of nostalgia for that awful, awful tone.

  • @dakn0x
    @dakn0x 9 лет назад +28

    Professional, intelligent, insightful....putting other You Tubers to shame!

  • @marcelferencz6688
    @marcelferencz6688 8 лет назад +31

    great video, great show one of the best out there, lots of quality infos

  • @marcuslewitzki4610
    @marcuslewitzki4610 2 года назад +2

    Damn, Dan's voice sounded completely different back in 2015 than it does today. A dramatic difference.

  • @MaxStephens77
    @MaxStephens77 8 лет назад +63

    turn the tone down on the Muff and itd sound a lot better....

    • @slashersethmcgerk
      @slashersethmcgerk 8 лет назад +18

      +Maxfield Stephens I was thinking the same thing. Its settings are clearly set up for the Marshall. With the tone at 11 o'clock it would sound bad on the Marshall and much better on the twin.

    • @MaxStephens77
      @MaxStephens77 8 лет назад

      +Seth Gingerich my thoughts exactly :)

    • @lauraslocumb7451
      @lauraslocumb7451 8 лет назад +6

      +Maxfield Stephens And stop playing everything with telecaster bridge pickup.

    • @garyharrison8891
      @garyharrison8891 8 лет назад +9

      Exactly and if the bright switch is on on the twin turn it off (like most people do). The OD simulates preamp (square wave distortion , hard clip/soft clip diode). Take and plug into the fuzz pedal, then into the OD pedal then into the twin. Guitar>fuzz pedal>OD pedal> twin = closer rep of what the Marshall was doing. Or turn all the preamp distortion off of the Marshall till it's perfectly clean. Not a decent comparison between amps and pedals. I've played through Marshalls and fender twins for over 30 yrs.

    • @shaunm1983
      @shaunm1983 8 лет назад +1

      i have the tone all the way down

  • @shaunm1983
    @shaunm1983 8 лет назад +30

    giving the back end more love........while Daniel plays with the big muff

    • @GJSolo
      @GJSolo 8 лет назад +3

      I see what you did there

  • @whynottalklikeapirat
    @whynottalklikeapirat 9 лет назад +16

    It is a beautiful thing to reach point on the arc of life where appreciating the deep seated irony of a big muff into a fender twin is bound to cause spontaneous outbursts of merriment.

  • @notaxisfuzz
    @notaxisfuzz 9 лет назад +15

    To me you need to cut off a little of tone ( it's way open!!!) in that BigMuff and probably it would sound better with that Silverface. I'm using a BigMuff with my Blues Deville (beautifully clean and bright) with the tone set slightly over noon and I love it. Obviously everyone has a tone in mind, and maybe my settings would not satisfy everyone, that's just my two cents. Interesting video anyway, thanks guys!!!

    • @Ultrafone68
      @Ultrafone68 9 лет назад +6

      +Enrico De Nard Exactly, why would you leave the tone completely open before a clean amp? I play a super-clean silverface Pro Reverb and like to use Muff-type Fuzz. It sounds much better than what we hear in the video. I get the point the video is making, but this bugged me a little.

    • @nomorebs
      @nomorebs 6 лет назад

      I have an acoustic amp, carvin ag100d and use its guitar channel as a practice amp as I can actually turn it down unlike my Marshall. It is super clean solid state amp as you can imagine and I use a muff pie through it. Being a sterile super clean amp you'd think the muff would be shrill but its not. Its got mega balls. Clearly I prefer my Marshall but its strictly reserved for certain times of day.

    • @jakollee
      @jakollee 6 лет назад +1

      I agree that was a weak point in this video. I won't argue that a Big Muff pairs better with a Marshall amp than a Fender Twin, but to not readjust the Big Muff for the Twin was very unfair. Not only should they have brought the tone knob on the Muff down to around noon, but they should've increased the sustain a little (and lowered the volume to compensate), that would've given a much warmer and more pleasing sound.

  • @sbirkey
    @sbirkey 9 лет назад +17

    Make a book, put a lot of pictures in it, with this type of content, and I'd pay 30 quid for it.

    • @PeterWasted
      @PeterWasted 9 лет назад +1

      Simon Birkey Have a search to see if you can find Guitarist magazine's "Guide to Effects Pedals". It was even edited by Mick. While it's not quite what you are asking for, it's certainly worth a look and covers some of the same ground as these videos. If you can find it, it should be less that £30 :-)

    • @Pstaines439
      @Pstaines439 8 лет назад +2

      +Simon Birkey yeah, the movie was good, but I'm waiting for the book ;o)))

  • @regularnimnule9715
    @regularnimnule9715 8 лет назад +15

    "We're giving the back end more love" LOL!!!!

  • @lakibjornson281
    @lakibjornson281 8 лет назад +23

    Why does dan's voice sound different in this?

    • @Balance3rd
      @Balance3rd 8 лет назад

      He sick

    • @alexisd3
      @alexisd3 8 лет назад +57

      He's using a EH pitch fork

    • @urbanesoul8400
      @urbanesoul8400 8 лет назад

      +Alexis Gutierrez Ah, that's awesome. I got a good belly laugh from that comment! Good joke, lol

    • @LordBransty
      @LordBransty 6 лет назад

      I had my back to the tv when this came on. I thought "Oh - Mick's working with someone different today..." - He sounds completely different. I agree.

    • @nightcrawlerf5
      @nightcrawlerf5 5 лет назад

      Hahahaha. He sounds more like a man, not like a teenager changing voice.

  • @Teletex82
    @Teletex82 2 года назад +3

    Why does Dan's voice sound so different here???

  • @DoItYourselfMusician
    @DoItYourselfMusician 9 лет назад +5

    I appreciate that you guys are trying to make a point, and a generally correct one at that, but geez that is not what a Fender Twin sounds like. Whether it was an awful recording or the way you set it, it's like you've cut its balls off or something. That amp can sound way better than that even with a Big Muff.

  • @Adipsia1
    @Adipsia1 8 лет назад +6

    In 1977 I remember being a budding 16 year-old rock-hero... and believing that I needed more watts in the same way that Blue Oyster Cult needed more cowbell on 'Don't Fear the Reaper'... in fact our band was called Reaper. ;) Sadly our band lasted just one gig because I went out and bought a Laney 100w head and 4x12 on the day, plugged my Carlsbro Suzz-pedal into it during the evening... and sounded like a very angry wasp in a jam-jar. I've been suffering from PTSD ever since... :)

    • @bazjones7349
      @bazjones7349 7 лет назад

      Peter Marshall been there seen it done it,I had a sound city 120 ,2 4x12 ,flat out !!!!!!!,then bought a Hiwatt dr105 ???? used to drive to a gig in an old breadvan !!!!!,drove home in a rolls royce !!!!!!! right ear has no top end now !!!!!!!

  • @brooklynboy1000
    @brooklynboy1000 8 лет назад +2

    OK you don't like the sound... we get it.. move on...you need to edit this shit down blokes

  • @michaelsnydermusic
    @michaelsnydermusic 2 года назад +3

    I learned more in this video than any other. It’s funny how everyone misses the obvious (in hindsight) key: the amp. Just like how so many people get caught up on tone wood, tubes and so on when it’s the speakers and how you mic them that has the largest impact on tone. Thanks guys!

  • @mottosierra1372
    @mottosierra1372 8 лет назад +7

    33 people use fender amps with big muff lol..

  • @lcjg2013
    @lcjg2013 8 лет назад +8

    I LOL'ed so loud when the big muff went into the twin. xD Good vid, guys.

    • @Dalley93
      @Dalley93 4 года назад

      Are you still laughing

  • @tonecontrol
    @tonecontrol 8 лет назад +11

    Jack White used to plug a Big Muff into a couple of twins 😘

    • @1971SuperLead
      @1971SuperLead 8 лет назад +3

      +Adrian Figallo Very good observation! And he made a signature sound for himself doing things like that. And people loved it. I loved it. "...make the sweat drip from every pore."

    • @guitarnoisechains1961
      @guitarnoisechains1961 8 лет назад +8

      +Adrian Figallo The problem in this Video is the Tone Setting of the Big Muff, as you can see at 6:07. Normaly you would adjust it and not leave the Tone setting way open.

    • @c0ralcaves
      @c0ralcaves 8 лет назад +8

      +Adrian Figallo Plus White's twins were running at full blast.

    • @Subtle-System
      @Subtle-System 8 лет назад +6

      +Guitar noise chains thank you! Yes! They expect the muff to sound the same when clearly they dialed it in foe the Marshall...

    • @MrGresK
      @MrGresK 8 лет назад

      exactly

  • @Driftuner
    @Driftuner 8 лет назад +6

    thats why i love Vox AC's...you can do anything with them..

  • @rigorhead01
    @rigorhead01 9 лет назад +4

    This is a really great video explaining and showing why pedals sound so different in different amps, and how important it is to choose a pedal for a specific amp.
    It totally makes sense why Tubescreamer-type pedals sound so good in blackface Fender amps: Fender blackface amps are so mid-scooped and a TS pedal makes up for it.
    Great job guys! I always love your videos, but I believe that this one is one of your best!

  • @jschwam1307
    @jschwam1307 4 месяца назад +1

    With the middle control on the twin reverb, can’t you compensate for some of that scooped mid tone by turning the mids up higher? I’m assuming in this example the mids were drawn back quite a bit?

  • @patrickfarley8036
    @patrickfarley8036 11 месяцев назад +1

    The moral of the story kids, is know (really learn and know) each and every piece of your gear/rig and recognize each piece for what it is!
    "The right tool for the job!" is more than half the battle to any job in any industry!
    And for fahk sake learn everything there is to know about gain staging!
    When you know these things, you will have more confidence and life will be so much easier because you will know your options before you start!
    You'll know exactly what to bring for any particular gig your doing, without having to bring everything thing you own and hope you hit the right sound!
    "Know Your Gear!!!!"

  • @JIMJAMSC
    @JIMJAMSC 8 лет назад +1

    I have accumulated enough effects over 35+ yrs to open a store. At any given time I have 4 running amps/effects setups and when friends come over have noticed a common problem. I call it SPINAL TAPPING. First thing guys do is max the knobs. Distortion, CRANKED. Reverb,echo,chorus,flanger, etc knobs must be maxxed!! Its like you paid for it, use it! If a little bit of chorus,echo,flanger sounds good then MAXXED must be better!!! My advice to get a newbie started is turn them all to 12 o clock and go counterclockwise. If you are alone or simply soundscaping in a room of blue smoke who cares. But if you cannot find your pets for days or open a inerdimensional portal you might should turn all the pedals off and give it a rest.Remember- a turd + effects sounds like a turn + effects. The turds just now cost more.

  • @joeurbanowski321
    @joeurbanowski321 Год назад +1

    In 2023 you can’t buy a used Hamsted head for less than $3,000…!!!
    Maybe when I book my arena tour..?🤣🤣🤣

  • @justinpaquette224
    @justinpaquette224 3 года назад +1

    I play mostly funk and soul music. So I play a fender twin with the master at 10 and gain at around 3, clean, clean and then when I turn my guitar volume from 8 to 10... also clean, but with great cut and tone for single note lines. So the way I get my dirt is by having a clean boost, Fuzz, low gain drive and a medium gain drive on my board. Many options this way. I've found that I get a good fuzz tone if I run the fuzz into my low gain drive

  • @LaminarSound
    @LaminarSound 8 лет назад +2

    I won't lie, at first I didn't like you guys. I thought you were longwinded, a bit cheesy and I thought YOU thought you were funnier than you actually were. I've watched a few more videos now and you really cover a lot of questions I've always had, and I'm sure thousands of others have had. You really have a niche for the more in depth concepts and ideas behind guitars/amps/pedals. Thanks for making a great show. My apologies for prematurely judging you. Cheers!

  • @schwag512
    @schwag512 8 лет назад +3

    First off, I'd like to thank Mick and Daniel for taking the time to explore the different tones available.
    I would like to express how incredibly hard it is to choose, the right tone a person would be looking for. I personally find it very difficult to think what setup would be right for me. With a limited budget and limited time to play, I want to get the most our of what I experience. I consider myself a very logical person, but with an infinite amount a variables it's easy to get lost. Keep up the good work. -Drew

  • @TheseusTitan
    @TheseusTitan 5 лет назад +2

    I laughed my hind end off when you played the Big Muff through the Fender. On my computer speakers it sounded like you were playing it through a 7 transistor radio speaker. I have an original black face Super Reverb. I bought it back around 1969 or 1970 and it doesn’t sound anything like your Fender amp. I like the tone of mine a million times better. It isn’t as clean as yours either. I seldom use pedals… but when I do I use my Timmy and a few others. They all sound great through my Super Reverb. Thank God they don’t like pedals through your Fender - lol

  • @luisutil9070
    @luisutil9070 8 лет назад +3

    Laughing at a Twin Reverb... unbelievable... Obviously I would dial the Big Muff different than with the Marshall...

    • @justinpaquette224
      @justinpaquette224 3 года назад

      Clearly these guys are not funk players... otherwise they would love the twin and find a way to make the pedal work with the amp... like throwing an overdrive after the fuzz..

  • @Alexander-iq5yq
    @Alexander-iq5yq 9 лет назад +20

    I cant stand overdrives that mix in the clean signal.

    • @moorditjman
      @moorditjman 9 лет назад

      +J583 cool

    • @Alexander-iq5yq
      @Alexander-iq5yq 9 лет назад

      jimmy roch warm

    • @Psyfonify
      @Psyfonify 8 лет назад +12

      +J583 they are intended for use with an overdriven amp - so its slight crunch mixed with heavy overdrive, instead of clean with overdrive

    • @aektzis91
      @aektzis91 8 лет назад

      +J583 why?

    • @Alexander-iq5yq
      @Alexander-iq5yq 8 лет назад +2

      aektzis91 I can hear two distinct tones at one time and it feels unnatural.

  • @jetpiston2161
    @jetpiston2161 8 лет назад +4

    "While Daniel plays with the Big Muff."

  • @GingerLeftyGuitar
    @GingerLeftyGuitar 9 лет назад +3

    Just stumbled upon this channel at the weekend. I love it. This is probably the most informative guitar related channel out there. Brilliant work.

  • @skynyrdrebellion
    @skynyrdrebellion Год назад +1

    "Whilst Daniel plays with the Big Muff......" 22:31

  • @yga
    @yga 8 лет назад

    Just found you guys as well! You seriously know your gear... very impressed indeed! Subscribed :)

  • @tombowman9463
    @tombowman9463 8 лет назад +2

    I've played a silver face 1969 Twin Reverb since the early 1990s. It's a wonderful but very challenging amp, especially for overdriven and distorted sounds. The amp reveals everything, but lots of pedals sound harsh and thin as Mick and Dan demonstrate so well. I've had great results with a number of pedals, though. For example: Fulltone "The 69 Pedal" (from the mid-90s) is a rich fuzz that really works. Zendrive and Zendrive 2 work great (and an Archer Icon into the Zendrive 2 is visceral experience!) because both pedals offer some compression and mid boost. Wampler Black 65 (with mid boosted and treble and bass down) sounds like an extension of the amp itself-very open and uncompressed. Wampler Euphoria works too with mid boosted but treble and bass down. Exotic RC Booster (fabulous) and BB Booster work. All of these pedals seem to preserve the openness and headroom that make the Twin what it is. Tube Screamers sound OK too (and maybe less revealing of every tiny detail and flaw in my playing), but at the cost of a lot of low frequencies. I'm still looking for a TS808-style solution. BTW, I tend to play Strats and Teles.

  • @sliberty
    @sliberty 7 лет назад +2

    When I was a kid, I bought a Sam Ash Fuzztone. I brought it home, and it didn't make a fuzz sound. I brought it back to the store, and it sounded properly fuzzy. Took it home again, no fuzz. Based upon the demos in this video, I bet it was due to the differences in the amps I tried the pedal with. I certainly didn't understand that back then.
    Thanks for a great, instructional video. Always learn something from you guys.

  • @schmidtty1387
    @schmidtty1387 2 года назад +1

    I know this video is over 5 years old but Dan sounds so Australian

  • @gregclarkreasons
    @gregclarkreasons 8 лет назад +3

    Love that Marshall! That natural drive is glorious.

  • @phlopalopagus
    @phlopalopagus 9 лет назад +3

    A lot of early Rivera amps like my r55 12 has the Marchell /Boogie on channel 1 and fender cleans on channel 2. I just switch which channel for what peddle. This video was very helpful as I couldn't figure out why my fuzz was so tinny as I had just assumed using the fender super clean was just the way to go for all the peddles. I switched it over and it was bad ass so thanks guys.

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад +1

      +Phlop Alopagus fantastic! Our job here is done ;)

  • @mark7166
    @mark7166 9 лет назад +14

    I had a 73 Silverface Twin Reverb for years. I loved it. Not sure how it stacks up to a Blackface, but I never had a single complaint about it whatsoever. Beautiful amp!

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад

      Mark Lugg they are great, loads of guys still use them and get great tones from them. I had a silver face Pro Reverb for years, killer amp :)

    • @mark7166
      @mark7166 9 лет назад

      Daniel TheGigRig Yeah. I was super sad to let it go, but I sold it to get a Mesa Recto-verb 25 combo. I wanted something with a good gain channel, and also something a lot smaller than the Twin.
      It was a hard call (but a good call indeed, as the Recto is killer!), but that's what being a gear head is all about, no?

    • @joshjenkinson1929
      @joshjenkinson1929 6 лет назад

      I have a silverface Bassman and that’s great too. A couple of circuit tweaks and attention to the components can make them amazing.... every bit as good as a 2 grand boutique amp. I’m sure Dominic Miller had a silverface Fender of some sort with Sting when I saw him a couple of years back. They are a steal for the quality, surely they’ll soar in value in years to come.

  • @davelewis4993
    @davelewis4993 8 лет назад +1

    Hi guys great video ! just a little question for a range of tones. As a predominately rhythm guitarist I need to have a clean tone, Rhythm and then occasionally lead tone higher up in the mix all from one rig ready at a push at a gig. Would it be best to use an OD / driven boost pedal in front of the clean channel for the clean and rhythm tones and then put this in front of the driven channel for lead tones. Alternatively would it be better to stack a higher gain sound on top still on the clean channel ? By the way I use a marshall DSL40c.

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  8 лет назад

      +Dave Lewis hard to say Dave, but an OD pedal into the clean and a booster into the dirty would be ideal, but have a play and try some things out, see how you get on :)

  • @effectrode
    @effectrode 9 лет назад +2

    Muff into Fender Twin reminds me of the 'Rhubarb and Custard' theme tune :)

  • @paraguitarmedic
    @paraguitarmedic 7 лет назад +1

    That Marshall is the best sounding amp I've heard on RUclips

  • @Jay-sy5yf
    @Jay-sy5yf 8 лет назад +4

    Stellar info but I don't get what's so funny?

    • @alexanderjosephross
      @alexanderjosephross 8 лет назад

      He cracks up laughing a lot in a lot of videos

    • @utooberblooper
      @utooberblooper 6 лет назад +1

      the twin with the muff sounds like a metal zone plugged straight into a p/a.its fucking horrid.that's what he is laughing about,did you just start playing recently ?your ear might not have developed to hear garbage yet.

  • @philipvanpeborgh9273
    @philipvanpeborgh9273 8 лет назад +1

    +Daniel TheGigRig - I apologized to a guitar today. It's a Yamaha F'holed Les Paul shape with P90's. Been struggling to find a usable tone since I bought it and was about to sell it and move on. However, following the grand theme of That Pedal Show (discovering complimentary and uncomplimentary combinations of stuff), I gave it a another chance with a Vox AC15C1. Couldn't believe how great it sounded, I mean floored, mouth agape, calling a friend in to check I wasn't hearing things type of great. Just goes to show.....Thank you.

  • @lexluthorpm
    @lexluthorpm 8 лет назад +1

    Dan's noiseless laughs gets me every time lol. Great video guys, it helped me A LOT! I'm going out on a limb here and ask: Could you please make a video with tone tips for tow guitar bands to play live? I can't seem to get my band´s sound right, the sound always get messy and confusing.

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 9 лет назад +1

    Regarding the Fender twin, When Leo fender was out of the way so to speak, there were eager technicians that wanted to make changes to the amp that Leo had forbidden from a soundperspective. Those were; making the amp more stable electronically, and getting cleaner, away from that "terrible" distortion (that Leo knew was good). I grew up around these amps and the guitars of that era (spikey 70's Teles - ouch) I'm glad that Fender got back on course. A lot of info can be found on this, should you so desire :-)

  • @slavmeister73
    @slavmeister73 7 лет назад +1

    Daniel, what you said is spot-on correct. The question SHOULD be: "What effects are going to work better with my amplifier?". I know this through my own personal experience. For about 2-years, I played through a Fender Blues De-Ville 410 Reissue. Good amp, not the best. The 4 x 10 amps can sound toppy so I replaced the original Eminence speakers with Jensen's to make the amp project a warmer and rounder tone. I chose the 'Clean channel as my sonic 'canvas' and then set about finding good overdrive/distortion pedals. I must've tried out a dozen or so and the ones that worked well did so because of the way they interacted with the De-Ville's tone. I always paid attention to how the pedals sounded when I tried them out at the shops through other amps, but I had to know my amp well enough to hear how they would sound going through it. The importance of tone and EQ controls on the pedals was crucial. I had to be able to tailor the tones to work well with my amp. What I have discovered in the end was that the tonality and and flexibility of the pedals were the most important so that if one day I was to switch to another amp, the pedals would still sound great. I found a new amp (a very, very good one) and when I ran my old trusty pedals through it, the tone was amazing! I hope this can shed some more light on the subject.

  • @Giggity230
    @Giggity230 9 лет назад +1

    this is the best show ever...i love you guys learning so much LOVE LOVE LOVE IT please give us more !!!!!!!!!

  • @rogeriosartori555
    @rogeriosartori555 7 лет назад +1

    they should try stacking some pedals... for example, the sd1 boosting the big muff.

  • @Ibanezman03
    @Ibanezman03 8 лет назад +1

    Noob Question: i also bought myself a big muff lately and didn't like it through the front, so i tried it in the loop and it sounds huge! My amp is an Orange OR15. Is putting drive pedals in the loop something you should/shouldn't do for some reasons ?

  • @MisterTee
    @MisterTee 8 лет назад +1

    Great, great video. You gents sit firmly atop the plethora of youtube guitar shows

  • @maham593
    @maham593 7 лет назад +2

    Brilliant information as always, cheers!

  • @Jonwsm
    @Jonwsm 2 года назад +1

    Dan sounds so odd. Lol

  • @ljwoollett
    @ljwoollett 8 лет назад +1

    I have used the boss sd1 with a jcm 800 since the 80,s just use the tone knob if 5he mids are to much works for zakk....

  • @BobBob-rt1vl
    @BobBob-rt1vl 8 лет назад +1

    really enjoy your videos.. nice job all around. good points for beginners as well as advanced players.. which is hard to do in one video. entertaining as well. keep it up.

  • @GGRetroRally
    @GGRetroRally 8 лет назад +3

    Just found this channel.. You guys are great and really informative 👍

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад

      +Andy “Da7thSon” Lord Welcome aboard Andy. Great to have you along!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow 8 лет назад

      +Andy “Da7thSon” Lord Welcome aboard Andy. Great to have you along!

    • @DrumWild
      @DrumWild 8 лет назад +1

      I just found it as well, earlier this week, but also accidentally found their NEW channel, where they have moved.
      The link is in the description, which I accidentally found just now, so figured I'd mention that. No doubt, this channel and the info they provide is most helpful.

  • @frankie28web
    @frankie28web 9 лет назад +1

    Hi Daniel, just wanted to say that this is one of the very best guitar channels! So much knowledge and good information! Thanks for the good work. Rock on...

  • @petert7449
    @petert7449 8 лет назад +1

    Great show Guys. I accidentally stumbled on to your site. This is a great tutorial. Its people like you guys that keeps me interested in music. I really appreciate the time you guys put in to this stuff. Thank you.

  • @stevenpriest1378
    @stevenpriest1378 9 лет назад +2

    Can you do a video on more affordable pedals?
    Ive bought a a few tone city pedals, EHX soul food and a TC Flashback Mini recently and they sound great with the gear i'm using without going bankrupt.
    I think it would make good viewing. :)
    Steve

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад +1

      Steven Priest cheers Steve, yes lots of great reasonably priced stuff out there. good idea ;)

    • @randerson2842
      @randerson2842 9 лет назад

      Daniel TheGigRig even some under the radar pedals. I just bought an old Ibanez Em5 Echomacbine for £28. Sounds great - darker delay that sits just under your notes beautifully.

  • @latigo66
    @latigo66 9 лет назад +1

    Absolutely fantastic, extremely insightful. A cut above the rest. Thank you.

  • @GK-mm3nz
    @GK-mm3nz 9 лет назад +1

    Congrats guys. You've had a video on RUclips for a week, with over 11 thousand views and not one thumbs down! That says a lot.
    Seriously, keep up the great work.

  • @smashallpots1428
    @smashallpots1428 9 лет назад +2

    this video was very important for me just now I had almost this shocking revelation when you explained why the muffin didn't work with the fender I was like oh man that's it that's my problem exactly I was trying to get a big muff to work with a hotrod and a strat or tele and it just wasn't happening thanks so much for this info

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  9 лет назад +1

      +jake winchester great stuff Jake, glad to help ;)

    • @smashallpots1428
      @smashallpots1428 9 лет назад

      +Daniel TheGigRig I just stumbled upon your videos today and I watched a couple I'm really enjoying the "that pedal show" series thanks for sharing your wisdom with us all

  • @harrysouter2304
    @harrysouter2304 8 лет назад +1

    Dan seems very peaceful in this video - was he ill? Or has he just been on a deep meditative yoga course

  • @scottmclennan692
    @scottmclennan692 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks for a good vid fellas, i have a question for you or rather would like your opinion? im running tuner, wah, maxxon 808 and delay in that order to the front end of my OR100. i have a phase 90 and blue sky in the effects loop.. my question is if i put my delay in the loop as well my reverb should always be last.. yes?? sigh.. or should I keep the delay in front end.. its a standard carbon copy.. thanks to anyone who might have an idea ! cheers from victoria BC.

    • @teunputker
      @teunputker 8 лет назад

      Experiment and see what you like. There's good or wrong.

  • @anilyazar_
    @anilyazar_ 8 лет назад

    dont buy bigmuff if you have twin

  • @MrCrapheadist
    @MrCrapheadist 9 лет назад +1

    I have the exact same twin. The problem is this twin is too good at what it's supposed to do. The Marshall adds so much to the natural guitar sound that what u hear is Marshall! not Guitar! They each have their place. Great vid.

  • @olstadp
    @olstadp 9 лет назад

    love your reviews - check out my guitar playing and music videos sometime. I'd love to get your comments!

  • @1willywonker
    @1willywonker 8 лет назад +1

    the TA 30 is pretty good alrounder
    could you guys do a vid on that

  • @Pokey7317
    @Pokey7317 6 лет назад

    Hey Guys, I realized you didn't respond to my Line 6 POD HD500x post. So I went and got a load of pedals. Lets see if you respond now... LOL. I have a question. What effects work with a Mesa Boogie Mark IV? Can you recommend and amp for me to use all this stuff with? I generally like a Broken up clean tone that responds to my right hand. I have a HEAVY hand and I use the following... I have a Jeckl and Hyde, Tube Screamer, BOSS DD2 modded, LPB 1 for a boost, Line 6 M9 for effects, MXR Dynamics's Comp, MXR Distortion plus from the 80's, BOSS Eq pedal, Dunlop Cry Baby was and Ernie ball Jr. volume pedal. I run all that into the front of the Mark IV and play a Gibson Les Paul and Telecaster.

  • @davidsonlou
    @davidsonlou 8 лет назад

    Big Muff---> Twin= San Francisco 1967 Yeah!! BIg Brother + the Holding company. ENjoying your shows,thanks for Fun info....

  • @periloustemple8290
    @periloustemple8290 4 года назад

    Of course, I watched this one the day it came out. But all this time later, one thing that is really interesting about that Muff into the Fender: Gilmore not only used Hiwatts famously, but also spend most of the 80's into the early parts of Delicate Sound of Thunder (Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour) with big, clean Fender heads (he also had a Mark IV and eventually a Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp - kind of a Mark III in a rack mount sans power stage. He basically used these as drive "pedals") - and used Muff's, Ibanez TS's, Chandler Tube Drivers, etc. Seems impossible, but sounded killer - and nothing like that Muff into that Fender. He did have at least 3 Boss Eq's he could put in and out for all kinds of things. Very complex, of course, with tube buffers all throughout his Pete Cornish rig. No answers or better questions here, just Wow. Go figure.

  • @2010georgian1
    @2010georgian1 8 лет назад

    Hi Dan, I'm loving ur show, I don't have very pro gear, well at least not my amp, I have mxr uni vibe, mxr 108 fuzz, boss turbo od, boss dd 3 and a DigiTech digiverb, it gets really horrible when I use hi creamy fuzz for 60's 70's tones, the reverb gets really messy and I can't even hear my notes when I'm doin fast solos, oh BTW I have a small vox r15 pathfinder, Jeff Beck strat, and 2015 sg special with 61's zebra hummies. any suggestions? maybe because the reverb pedal is digital, idk...