Small Tire Car + Long Travel Struts = Big Problems To Solve!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This week in the shop, we dive deep into the heart of customization and problem-solving as we take on a challenging project for @StreetRacingChannel"s Camaro. Starting with the ambitious plan to upgrade the front end with new long travel struts, we hit an unexpected snag right out of the gate. The initial set that Billy had sent us threw a wrench in our plans, potentially leaving us without the ability to reattach the hood due to their size.
Not ones to back down from a challenge, we explored alternative solutions, testing out a smaller set for a mock-up. However, our goal wasn't just to make it fit; we were determined to get the full 6.5 inches of travel we had originally set out for. That's where our friends at Mensor Motorsports come into play. With their expertise, they agreed to craft a custom set of long travel struts, perfectly sized to meet our needs without compromising the 6.5 inches of travel.
Amidst the hustle and bustle of problem-solving and customization, Lonnie swings by the shop, giving us a chance to sneak a peek at his Buick GSX and adding an extra layer of automotive excitement to our day.
Join us as we navigate through the ups and downs of custom car modification, showcasing the importance of innovation, teamwork, and the relentless pursuit of perfection. Whether you're a Camaro enthusiast, a fan of custom builds, or just love a good automotive challenge, this episode has something for everyone. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button for more content like this, and drop a comment below to let us know what you think of our plans for Billy's Camaro!
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It's crazy how much chassis set up I have learned from racing RC cars. It's literally the exact same thing. Once I got into big cars I understood so fast. Get your kids into Rc folks!
Same here!
I’ll tell you one thing the stuff i learnt from rc cars was hell of alot easier to take to big cars than taking the stuff i knew about the big cars before hand to rc
i did it cost a small fortune, but worth every penny, my son won many national juinor championships
@@aeroflopperno he didnt
I totally agree!!! And if ya notice most drag racing and track racing guys always have an rc tucked away somewhere in the house or shop!!? And the biggest thing rc racing helps with is suspension settings on the big versions.. getting that rate, bound and rebound set correctly and balanced makes the traction possible..
Everyone working together, reaching out too friends and Company contacts to MAKE IT HAPPEN !! Murica Baby !! 🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸
MURICA! 🇺🇸🏁
I love what y’all bring to the community. Well done gents
TSR boys another great video. We love to see the day to day work in the shop. Always a positive vibe going on around there because we know there is nothing but greatness rolling out of that shop !!
nice work guys, can wait to see this thing race
I literally have this exact same problem and need these exact struts 😂 taking a big tire rotary car and doing LT and no prep.
Yeah there's definitely a couple guys out there you need to talk to Taylor 💯 I've seen 2 maybe 3 like yours doing the Tippy Toe down the Track ... And when they were they were flyin big time 💯 if its squatting it's working 😅
Thank Billy for sharing this. Most people don't. You guys do a great job at explaining things.
“Built in Kentucky by hillbilly’s”❤
Thanks for paying this video guys. Great stuff. I wish I could afford to have Brad build my truck. Even Billy who is no slouch on getting cars to go fast is having his Camaro set up at TSR. I have to ask Billy how he got his leaf spring truck to leave so hard and straight. I get the cal-tracks and lock up the frame but there must be more. Billy is a talented guy Hope you all figured out the struts. I’m working on a 49 ford f1 now that sits on a fat man chassis , with a 9” and 4 link. Im setting up the instant center now with advice from the Tin Soldier Racing video that y’all helped so many of us with. Rest easy guys when I get to progress my 2000 s-10 I will be going to you all for parts to get it hooking up and going fast. I wish it was a square nose s-10 like Billy’s but With help from guys that know a lot more than me ,Maybe the 2000 year chassis is better?? I do see guys putting a lot of coin into s-10’s and they seem to come up short,I worry if I should look for a short wheel base car?
If Mark comes up with some struts that will work on Billy's car he better get a warehouse full of them because he's going to sell a shit ton of them!
Glad to see you guys have ur hands on Billy’s car ..
get it Done Brad...that car going to be player when its lined out can't wait
Excellent work guys! You guys build the baddest parts, keep it up!
I'm here because of SRC, Billy is an awesome guy! Y'all are awesome, great job on what y'all are doing for him. I was impressed with the Nova, I think the Camaro will be even more impressive! I can't wait to see how well he does with this mean machine, light weight, big engine and I imagine twin turbos, nitrous. Sounds pretty mean to me! Let's go Billy!!! 🤘😝🏁
It will have a Pro Charge..pro charger on it.
@@Sunshine-zi8zc sweet! I can't wait to see it man!
TSR and SRC getting ready to hurt some Feelings 💪🏻🔥😁
Man I really appreciate showing us the up and downs of it all
Hey guys absolutely love the video plus you guys teaching about the different strut sizes years ago I worked in a Fab shop in your work is top-notch God bless you guys stay strong and stay fast
Billy's Camaro gonna be a Beast 😎🏁🤘🔥🇺🇲
The 6” travel menscers will work. That’s what I had on the Lucky Luciano Camaro. Mario Johnson’s car
Thats awesome that there are companies that don't mind making what you need. Not many are willing to do that because it's actually outside of their skill set..
Love watching the building process.. keep up the great work.
Just wondering why you cant lower the lower control arm brackets and adjust the ride height of the strut.
U just can't put the lca taps anywhere bro. Everything has to be in line n work together thru the whole travel of the struts n the upper n lower control arms homie. Shiiii can't be binding up n stuff bcuz the stuff won't work on the track n billy will be fighting the car to go down track straight n all.
Guys every time I watch this channel I'm educated I gain knowledge and you cats always have a great attitude Brad is really good at all aspects of performance thx feĺlers
I got to give it to y’all boys , y’all the best out there when it comes to chassis for race cars 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
That was the best explanation of "caster" I've ever heard. Amazing. He should be a teacher or instructor.
Cool 😎 !
Some work in that! Fair play. Shop is looking great
Thats right having a great shock guy to help is awesome!!!!👍👍👍
This is badass! It’s amazing to watch what you guys can do, the level of engineering and fabrication that goes into your work is unmatched. So glad Billy has let you guys do your thing with the chassis, this car is going to be a rocket 🚀 and it will be fun to watch the progression. Tin Soldiers and SRC is such a cool collab and even more, a genuine friendship. It will be nice to see Billy in a car that will be competitive again and capable of bringing home the 🏆💵💵
I was thinking to put a spring cup in the lower arm to absorb some of the length your struggling with. Then I see it’s a 7 day old video. Hey maybe on future builds when the problem arises. I bet you can’t loose much more than 2” as when the cars land from wheelies the spring cup in the lower arm may come into track or road contact.
Looks like he finally wised up and gonna let real race car builders work it.
I used a TRZ Fox Body spindle with an AFCO Foxbody strut in a 5th Gen Camaro to have alot of travel. Not sure if it would fit into a 1st Gen Camaro though.
Respect for showing the trials and tribulations of building cars .
There is nothing wrong with the struts going above the hood that will become the norm at some point .its the same in off road long travel ...
It would look sick too
I'm excited to see the solution. Nice video guys. Stay safe
The amount of knowledge I gained from this video is insane. Big kudos to the builder!
Looks like a solution for Turbo John on the Saturn, then again he already has another car going together
3-4 inches, I mean I’d say those are average struts..right guys??
So few shaft measuring jokes considering 20% of the content in this episode 😂
Looks like the car is going to work good
Billy has the right team on the job. Glad y’all had time to work on his new car. Can’t wait to see it when it’s done.
Good stuff!! Watch and Learn!!🇺🇸🇺🇸
Someone’s gotta tell the camera guy he doesn’t need to make a noise after every sentence that is said
Man that’s a really nice car that is a game changer
The best for the fast ❤🙏🤘🇱🇷 have fun and blessed weekend guys 😁
6:01 "6-10 degrees of caster"...I've been saying this for 30 years and I don't even have anything considered quick or fast.
Think of it this way, try pushing a shopping cart backwards real fast. What happens? The "caster wheels" try to correct themselves. You don't want that. Another example, most GM cars from late 60s, all thru the 70s and pretty much rear wheel drive 80s (think g body) all had negative caster "built in" to make them nice to drive. Think couch down the freeway kind of thing. My old 1950 Ford had manual steering and positive caster, the steering wheel corrected itself to center when turning the wheel. This phenomenon on a race car is doing the same thing...trying to center the steering wheel and kinda "forcing" the front tires to do the same at speed...kinda forcing the tires to go straight in a pair on the front of your car.
I might be doing a crappy explanation, but hope y'all get the importance of positive caster in your alignment and setup.
Otherwise you just pushing a shopping cart backwards.
Ditto on caster. Had a 2nd gen Camaro bracket car and put as much caster as I could in it. Drove like a Cadillac at 130 on a Sunday drive. Made looking around at the finish line very comfortable. 👍
That cars gonna be a nasty one to beat on the track.
6:55 what a fine looking Buick!
I did NOT expect that to come rolling in...
Wish i wasn't poor...
Im just a displaced eastern Kentucky man stuck in Detroit and life bit me hard for the last 25 of my 54 years.
All i really want out of life is for my first car, my 70 442 Olds to run 8.50s with a legit Olds engine. I forever dream of winning the lottery and dropping off the roller to Tin Soldier race cars and helping me out with the "stance". I know everything else will work once that is nailed.
Hey if you haven't already checked ksr performance and fab RUclips channel he is building a Olds powered drag car. It's his first car as well
The camera guy is a true question king 😂..and he's got the..yeah uh-huh 😂 down point.
Just make it look like a badass gaser.
The gsx was also only offered in yellow or white. They are killer
Good job bro
love the thinking that you guys do with these old cars to make them work
Billy doesn't care what it looks like! He's going to want ALL the travel! Won't care that it's popping up through the hood/fender. ASK HIM FIRST.
Always looking forward to your videos.
Wow, go figure. Another first gen Camro. What is the fascination with a '69 Camro specifically? NPK needs to mandate everyone run a '69 Camro. There would only be a few that would have to change. NPK is almost all first gens. A '69 is a sweet-ass car. I loved myself a first gen too. But, nowadays I'm sick of seeing them everywhere.
But, the fact is? It's not my car. They can own whatever they want. After all this is America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a couple of guys measuring each others shafts on facetime......wait, what??
are you interested in a 1967-68 Camaro - complete fiberglass front end with opening hood and 7 inch snorkel scoop , has grill and aluminum engine surround trim 900.00 , marina blue with white Z/28 stripes
@1:59 that spring spacer is used if you wanna run dual rate springs. Common in long travel off road vehicles. I run a 550lb 14 inch spring on top and a 350lb 12 inch spring on bottom, on a 12 inch stroke shock.
If Nicky Bobby Had the Tooling He Could Get it Done No Doubt Love ALL Yall guys God Bless
Y'all got some work ahead of ya I'm afraid
From the looks of it
But i just build semi trucks
BADASS 💪
Way too many projects at once. I realize it is fun, but don't spread yourself too thin. It is an addiction I wish I could afford.
I’d be interested in a set of those struts once you get them sorted and pricing figured out.
Camera man "nice" lol I think he must have gone to the same school as I
😂 guy must of worked in the butcher shop at jewel osco 🤡 im gunna splice into the front down bar instead of bending a whole new down bar... 💩
Hustling horsepower has an odd setup like that sticking way up high but very little body if front
If you make it wheee the shock cup is right above the lower ball joint you can probably get up to 9 inches of travel! But you’d have to relocate the spindle out slightly or run smaller length lower control arms.
I think a callout with Billy and Cleetus is in order when the cars are done. Billy can i promote it?
Mustang strut on a Camero... don't let Bill watch this!😂
I actually own one of those Buicks my grandmother gave it to me. They are my favorite car in the world by far.
Hey guys did you get the long strut ordeal figured out on the Camaro I have a 68 Dodge Charger that I have been wanting to put a long strut on it!!
Have been wanting to do it for about 7 years
If you have something figured out let me know I may bring my car to you unless you guys fix it up
Thanks
Been waiting on this video for too long lol thanks for yalls content god bless y’all
Please please tell me you guys are going to film and show that Buick GSX car !?
Bones the old bracket car how’s the weird looking front shocks
LAYOUT, funny the differences in types of racing, we set our cars at full bottom nose up 2-4° then work from there, 12° min caster as a starting point, we need at high speed the car to self correct. Ride can be anywhere but at full compression having the nose down will ruin our day. Interesting
Yeah on drag racing cars the nose may be sitting down while it's just sitting there but once it takes off the nose of the car stands up n som cars are the nose of it may be off the ground like 1foot give or take n it's like dat all the way to the finish line as long as it's in power going down track bro. It dnt stay wit the nose pointn down to ground . It's just how it sits
No I get it and understand the design side but then you see guys like Brett Lasala running more like an NPK car granted on radials and a prepped track.Thankyou for your response,keep up the good work.@@obezzyjohnson9680
I’ve never heard it called cali lean, it’s always been Carolina Squat 😂
Is cantilever not an option with the coilovers top coming thru the firewall?
Awesome video guys, can't wait to see it done with all you guys are doing to it
Would it be possible to run the shock/strut parallel with the top frame tube and use a solid rod on a pivot to actuate it? So spindle to an actuator rod, rod to a pivot mounted to the upper frame tube, and then pivot to the shock.
Make small tire racing great again small tire no prep racing is my favorite
There is no way i would have a ls in a gsx ..i guess it depends on how deep your wallets are
That strut sticking out of the hood would be kinda cool. I’ve thought about it, been waiting for someone to do it, like a shock tower on a trophy truck. It’ll be soon.
Todd is feeling the trophy truck vib lol
Why are you not using Jeff Thomas long travel?
bill and billys heads have gotten to big for me
half of the no prep cars are running no hoods. deep six the hood and have the strut cups be flag holders. Strut cups/TSR flag's the next great revenue stream.
Only supposed to use nylok nuts once correct?
What are you going to do with your old strutts, $
Jason brad great job as always Godbless
Send the shocks back and call ron G. He shortens that strut body while keeping the same stroke.
Ron builds really nice stuff but Menscer is our people and we really like their product and our relationship with them. We are their largest dealer.
Its all about solving problems
Can't wait to see the car when it's done
Man ,Doc Holiday is working on race cars now. Dude in the gray shirt is Tombstone Doc Holiday’s twin.
Love you guys your the best of the best
We haven't see much from Billy's nova after its debut. A hand full of races and thats it. Maybe hes done with the Nova. This is going to be a different beast.
We'll see if a light bulb went off in his head after sick week about what to do with the Nova, since it's got the cage, engine, steel and should alrrady have provision for cooling etc. for a class like ultimate iron or whatever.
Love the Buick! Building a Buick engine that’s fast would cost more than the whole car.
Thank God they fixed the firewall .
I saw this car in a garage outside of Chicago, and the firewall was Swiss cheese
Good job, guys
Excited that you guys might have a offering for this void in the industry. I would love something with more travel
I'm kinda a qa1 guy but that's definitely pretty solid what mencer is doing to help not only his program but something that you guys can offer all ur customers in the future!
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