Thanks Caleb for these reviews and looking very forward to your side by side comparison with the Hisense U8H. Will be interesting for sure as Stop the FOMO has done this with the U8H the clear winner. I already have a Roku TCL 6 series 2019 model and have become totally at ease with the Roku system, its simplicity, but it's a bit long in the tooth with its 60 hz panel and basically poor studder performance when watching 24p movies. I would dread having to switch over to the U8H's Google OS. But I admit that after some other comparison videos and articles on side by side comparisons of these two TVs, the Hisense may be just too hard to pass by despite having to learn a new OS. And please go in depth on the U8H's built in speaker system, FOMO says the built-in speakers are among the best he's ever heard for built-in, with a built in bass on back of tv, so good many won't need a sound bar.
Might just be my personal opinion/budget but I feel the normal price without any reduction makes it a harder buy considering Sony/Hisense etc other brands have very competitive prices. The tcl seems nice though but a bit hard buy for me to pull the trigger. I might test out the cheapest version though just to see or can use it as a spare room tv. Great review though thx
I have the last Gen tcl r646 and it's a great tv for its price. I use it for PC gaming and have no issues. Ppl did experience issues but it's been updated and no longer has issues anymore.
Hey Caleb, great fan of yours here. If it's possible, your review of TCL C735 would be really helpful! Thanks for your great work! Edit: Really was not expecting to see my country (Georgia) here :D
Someone must have been reading regarding previous youtube videos freezing up iPad RUclips client when you try to enlarge the window. This video I can play on my iPad and the enlarge button works and doesn't lock up my RUclips client. Multiple ones before this video did this, and this one works. 😃Thanks to the person who resolved this issue.
Always love your reviews! You’re the main reason I went with this same TV. My only issue is that I run my tv through the e-ARC output, but my AV receiver (Denon X-2000) supports 4K, but not 120hz or Dolby vision. I’ve been scratching my head on how to run the full specs of my Series X while getting sound through my receiver without having to spend a ton for a newer one.
Ok I figured it out. Got my new tv yesterday. The tv has a EARC HDMI out. I connected an hdmi from that to the ARC on my Av receiver. In the receiver settings I turned hdmi arc on the “tv” source and now my new tv pushes the atmos/digital sound info to the receiver when I’m on one of the other 3 tv hdmi sources when having the “tv” source on my receiver selected
Caleb, If you receive the TCL 5 Series 2022, would you please do a review on it. It’s selling , but there’re know display models in the box stores to view. Thanks in advance.
I really enjoy watching your videos, and it’s one helped me choose my purchase of 85R655 tv. I have had it for a little over a month now but have been getting bold white vertical bars that come up from the bottom of the screen, they don’t show for long but it very annoying to say the least. Just wondering if you have ever seen this and if you have could you give any help. Ty
Any word on the TCL 8-series ? It's the 8 series I've been waiting for but have heard nothing yet and we're now well into October. Are we even getting the 8-series here in the U.S. ? Seems like Hisense will get my money with the U8H if I don't hear any announcements from TCL regarding the 8-series in the next couple of weeks.
I bought the 2018 version of this TV and it’s been great. Great picture quality and all. I now have a PS5 and Series X so this TV would be great. Unfortunately I still have a perfectly functioning TV so I won’t be upgrading anytime soon. Great video though.
@@capnsnaxx Sorry i cancelled the delivery got a really good deal on SAMSUNG 85" Class Neo QLED 4K QN90B Series Mini LED for $2500 & LOVIN IT is better TV in quality & pic ...BUT if u wanna 75 inch for $1500 get Hisense 75U8H QLED Series Quantum 4K ULED Mini-LED better an this TCL, BUT if u lucky to find one in stock in ANY size anywhere for month now , i wants to get that in 75 inch U8H is VERY hard to get, VERY good TV in pic & blks even almost the same pic, blks & Brightness u getting like $3-$4000 TVS is proof is in videos here in utube side by side ...BUT is very hard to get one in stock to buy sales like hot cakes & got glorious reviews all over internet & utube as BEST in budget TV of the year , so good luck 👍
@@SFBenjaminK nice man! Yeah that Hisense U8H is on my short list as well. But with it being so hard to get I've pretty much started to consider the U7H instead or this TCL. So it's pretty much between those two for me.
@@capnsnaxx well wait around till end of the month like by blk Friday/cyber Monday ,pretty sure gonna get that U8H back in stock because they out for couple of months now , if u NOT hurry & always check with AMAZON daily sometimes what i heard brings few in stock but sales out pretty quick , never know might u get lucky...anyway happy holidays!
Did you do something different with your camera settings with this video? It looks very different, contrasty, the equipment behind you and on the wall lost in shadow compared to other recent videos. Maybe you had the ISO setting set very high?
@@Caleb_Denison You could also try running the HDR/HGIG setup utility on the xbox. I noticed when I hooked up my xbox series x that it defaulted to a much brighter minimum luminance than my TV is actually capable of. I know you aren't playing games, but it is possible that since the TV automatically detected the xbox and switched itself to game mode, it could be using those HGIG tone mapping settings for anything coming from the xbox.
For SDR peak brightness, did you set the backlight to 100 with mode Brighter? Because once you get to 65-70 on the backlight, it gets super bright for SDR, any higher and you are staring at the sun.
I wonder how new TCL TVs hold up in the long term. I have an R605 and I have had to replace the power board twice. It's a known common issue with this TV. The good thing is that it is a cheap part and only takes a few minutes to swap out.
I have Gamma flicker issues when using it in VRR in some games on PC. I also cannot get into Game Mode with a 3080, not that it matters cause I still turn on 120/VRR separately and the Input Lag is phenomenal anyway. EDIT: cable was the issue
Thanks God NOT into the GAMES stuffs so don't bother me in these kinda Budget TVS , BUT Bought the NEW 85 inch just released on BESTBUY for now, for only $2000...U can f*n beat that in price, size & quality
Looking at this tcl, u8h, or lg b2 in 75. Can’t seem to find the Hisense anywhere and the oled b2 is just a few hundred more. What would y’all lean towards. Medium lit living room will be its home
This, or best buys LG qned83? I have had both in the last 4 days and have had to return both do to defects. They are delivering my choice of either in 3 days, and I need to decide which to one to go with. I think the TCL had better image quality, and better blacks, being a VA, versus LG's ips, but now I dont know which one to go with.
Calebbbbb don't forget to talk about the TCL Chopping off half the vertical pixels at 4k 120hz!!! Apparently that's the biggest problem for gamers. I believe the Hisense does that too. May not be as visible but we need to see it! Haha.
A lot of people claim there is a squeal from the back of this tv when the screen goes black, have you heard this is there a fix or are they defective?? Was just getting ready to buy but may change my mind!! I hope you take a min to respond.
I posted this on another video you did. I have been in the industry 43 years and we recently tried TCL on a budget Bar project 3 hours out of town installing 19 TCL TV's. Two were defective out of the box. I have spent 37 hours on the phone over 16 call ins with the worst customer service I have ever experienced including dealing with the government and health insurance. Every time I call I am required to repeat the 12 step troubleshooting procedure of factory resets, emailing videos of the problems, and shooting a picture of the serial number EVEN THOUGH I have a case numbers. It is designed to never take care of a warranty issue because the TV is so cheap you will give up. Our new company policy is if someone asks for TCL, we will charge $600 an hour to install them. We are also telling CEDIA, CE Pro, and INFO Com until they go bankrupt.
How are tvs that are produced now struggle with low bit stuff? My 9 year old 1080p sharp has zero macro blocks. But when I watch the same content on my 2022 hisense u6h it's so bad. Macro blocks all over the place. But streaming content looks amazing. It's not even a competition between the two tvs.
How does this compare to the Vizio MQX? Secondly, how is the customer service? Also, since it’s Chinese do you worry about it (and Hisense) getting banned like Huawei and ZTE products.
Hi Caleb , I am viewer from Australia , What i had noticed these Hisense U8G and TCL 6 Series which you review for US are may be different model with same name available in countries like UK , Australia , Would you be able to add a disclaimer or clarify to your viewers that . The TV available in US and the review is not applicable to Other Countries like Australia , UK . What these Manufacturers had identified is that they - sent there best product to US and then your review mislead viewers to purchase them in other countries . They make cheap version of there TV in other countries . Your help would be helpful
Can you turn motion smoothing on and review it's quality for all TVs? There's a good 30% of us who really appreciate frame interpolation tech. For me, it would be the single most important software feature for image quality.
@@bluemarvin743 only the older generation think of it as that. I watch more RUclips than soap operas, which often is shot in 60fps. Check some snowboarding films with and without motion smoothing and you'll agree with me. Don't watch Saving Private Ryan with motion smoothing
I’m going to have to return my 55r655 due to loud screeching whenever there’s a dark scene transition. Completely ruins the cinematic experience. Apparently, this is a pretty common problem shown in Best Buy’s review section and is probably why there’s already an open box available of this exact TV. There’s a separate high pitched screech that’s common in most TVs. This one’s in the 10-12k hz range it’s always present as long as the power cable is plugged in. Really annoying for tinitus.
One thing that this TV seems to lack is Dolby Atmos passthrough by eArc. I cannot get Dolby Atmos to passthrough to my Vizio M5124a-H6 soundbar from my Series X. It seems i need to connect my Xbox to the soundbar and the soundbar to the TV.
Every time I use the voice-control, the television replies, making a lot of noise that is VERY annoying. I wonder if there is a way to turn off the reply of the television, thanks.
I have a question. I have a PS4 (the regular one) and my TCL hooked up to a sound bar. When I switch input to play my PS4, my TV switches to 1080p 60hz. When I switch back to my television, does the television switch back to 120 hz 4k programming or do I have to manually switch back to that setting? Thanks
Please check 4K RUclips videos with VP9 codec with fine lines, repeating patterns, geometry, fine lines, cityscapes. On my 65R655, there is Moiré effect in fine line details and shimmer from jaggies and stair-stepping in fine details not seen with the same content on the Hisense U8H or other display. I'm hoping this is the only way this happens. Thank you.
Could somebody please tell me what just happened to my tv? I was watching TV on the Sling TV app. All of a sudden there was a very loud high pitch screaming sound coming from the back of the TV. It was a constant screaming sound almost like an alarm or buzzer. It sounded like the TV speakers were at full volume, it was so loud. The remote control inputs still worked, but there was no sound from the TV other than the screaming noise. I turned the TV off, and the loud noise continued with it off. I had to unplug the TV for it to stop. Once I plugged the TV back in, everything worked fine again. Could this be some sort of extremely loud coil whine that just appeared and then went away?
Compare it to the LG C2 😅. I got the C2 but I've had a 65" TCL over 4 yrs and it's amazing. C2 is for my room but I wouldn't pay that again instead I'd get the TCL in the largest size and still have money left over. LG C2 is the best but TCL is close enough, definitely better than Samsung or Sony.
If you could only choose one based on compatibility with Dolby vision and Dolby Atmos sound bars. As well as picture quality, Would you pick TCL or Hisense? And would you pick roku or Google tv?
I'd go with the TCL Roku tv, I had the TCL Google and the OS was laggy and apps wouldn't load up fast, I since replaced it with the Roku version an haven't looked back. I heard Hisense is good too but from talking to the Best buy rep, he said the TCLs are better.🤷🏿♂️
My 2018 TCL just burned its LCD panel, after 4 years, my $600 tv is not functional. Super not happy. Had a repair dude show up, can’t believe it. I’d love another TV but with a Best Buy 4tear warranty I’m still loosing. Won’t be getting another. Got my mom two 4series and one just overheated. Not ok with this..
I have zero clue about tvs. Is there function that cleans up those "trashy blocky" image you mentioned with different manufacturers? Is it called upscaler?
I'm confused... isn't there a Roku TV app that will let owners choose "Expert Settings" on their TCL Roku TVs? In other words give the owner access to more calibration settings and such.
Unfortunately, the TCL panel lottery on the 55 inch is on the losing side. I exchanged for a new one 3 times at Best Buy and they all had the same panel issues with thick, diffused horizontal lines going across the middle of the screen, some worse than the other. Gave up and spent the extra money for a LG C2, no issues with it at all. Overall, not worth the savings in money when it's a gamble if you are going to get poor panel quality.
Yeah alot of that is TCL and Hisense processors, which effects the dse on the panels. They have to step it up on the QC of that to really compete with the big 3
glad you went with the C2. My old tv was a budget TCL 4k from 2020 and the C2 is worlds apart in quality even tho its on the pricier side. Still worth it!
@@joze9127 No the C2 was my first oled. But it you see a good priced C1 then i would say go for it. The C2 is not a huge jump over the C1 and you would be perfectly happy with the C1 from reviews ive seen. Go for whatever has the better price to performance!
My TCL is 18 months old bought it primarily because of your reviews,, was thoroughly happy with the purchase till last week when a vertical green line appeared. Have done what some techs have suggested but no luck, do you think it is worth purchasing a new Ton board and/or a new Main Board as these are probably faulty and the reason for the vertical lines, any help here is appreciated
I still have the R617 from 2018. I realized that it had just been updated and am curious as to why the gamma was changed to 2.4. I used to do 2.4 for about a year but opted to do 2.2 again. Wondering if it's a bug or if TCL/Roku believes 2.4 is "correct".
@@cntswn I do 2.2. It's entirely dependent on room lighting and I play in a nearly pitch-black room when gaming and watching movies. 2.0 is for brighter rooms.
caught this bad boy on sale this morning out of the blue at best buy. within a week went from 699 - 799 back down to 599. got it with the five year insurance
Hi I am in Australia . I just got this tv . I have all apple products and it’s an android. So I did as instructed and skipped a section. Now it asked I enter m6 PIN number I did then it asked for language ,English . Now it won’t move off language nothing I do including turning the tv off
Caleb, so the question I keep trying to get answered is if you want a large screen pure Roku experience, I.e. turn on the set and it open right up to the Roku Home Screen, is the 65”/75” r655 the best option out there. My wife doesn’t want to see a Google or Samsung start page, just straight to Roku. I assume the U8H isn’t an option. Thoughts?
Just FYI the Roku app to adjust Gamma and RGB levels is broken. It is a known issue at Roku and there is a year-long thread on Reddit about the issue. It's a Roku not a TCL problem and the workaround is using a very old version of the Roku android app. I'm not going to pay $1500 for the 75" version and have any part of it not work properly. It is only the "expert picture settings" that get this operation error. Like the reviewer I'm not a fan of taking expert or fine adjustments off the TV and hiding it from users especially if it doesn't work. Roku has been zero help in resolving despite numerous e-mails.
Here in Eugene Or, our ABC outlet is 720P, our CBS, NBC are 1080P. I have the rights to view the Xfinity Streaming app, but only use on occasion and I don't pay for the privilege, it's part of the Comcast Community's. FS1 for drag racing, The Five and very little else.
i would get this tv over the u6k but the amount of glitches it has is really turning me away from it especially since the smart features working is pretty important to me since i’m not hooking it up to a console or apple tv.
What do I think of the R655? I think if this is calibrated then it's best for movies 🍿 and for those who stream their favorite shows using that support Dolby Vision. I just ordered this and plan to use it in my bedroom to stream shows. I bought this because of the dynamic range Dolby Vision gives you. But for a living room I'd save more for a brighter mini-LED tv. Maybe a Sony or Samsung.
I just got my TCL 55R655 today and after getting it set up and turned on I sat down to watch some tv. Right off the bat I noticed how vivid the picture was compared to my 14 yr old Sony Bravia rear projection tv. What I also noticed is motion blur...LOTS OF MOTION BLUR. It's nauseating. I only have on internet option where I live and it's not very fast but it's been fast enough to stream with a Roku ultra connected via an ethernet cable from the router. Can this blur be adjusted out or at least minimized so it's not nauseating? If so...how?
GOT looks better with the lifted colors. A lot of these Directors don't realize people can't watch GOT with young family and we have to wait late at night before watching the show. Dark scenes are difficult at night becuase we already lower the brightness to save our eyes from the extra bright scenes. Not everyone watching GOT in a studio with perfect lighting and sound control. It's driving me crazy and is the reason why I wouldn't watch lots of shows out there. Another example is Ozark.
I was looking at either getting a TCL 6 series or LG QNED and was wondering what's the better option? I'm gonna use them mostly for gaming on my Series X.
I would like to see a comparison between the TCL and the Hisense to see which one is better in a living room (not so much for games, except for the occasional Switch game).
Most people already did one and the U8H wiped it but it doesn't have true 4k 120hz at the moment but will in the form of an update. plus it's got posterization issues while gaming but it's possible that could be fixed in a update like the 4k 120hz will be.
@@hypno17 What do you mean when you say "most people already did one and the U8H wiped it"? Do you mean that there are reviews (other than FOMO's) comparing the two TV's? If so could you point me to those comparisons? Thanks.
Reviews are great, but wish they would mention reported issues which with this model R655 has a coil whine noise. This noise is what's holding me back from buying this model.
I just got this tv 2 days ago. I just noticed yesterday that when turning the tv on or off, it makes a audible click sound like a relay. Not sure If this normal or not? I thought it was silent?
Looking at this tv for my girlfriend, I will say I have an LG CX and it does the same audible click as well not sure why but I have had no issues with it!
Can the tv do 4k 120hz, dolby vision, and vrr all at the same time in game mode. I remember hearing that last years models were not able to do this. I believe vrr and 120hz were not capable of being used together, and i’m almost certain dolby vision gaming and vrr did not work together. Thanks in advance.
Heard it can't along with the Hisense U8H because they still aren't using the new chips but The 2023 models I heard will as they should have the new latests ones that this years sadly didn't receive.
There are functionally no real Dolby vision games. Halo infinite is one, but it looks just as good in HDR. Dolby vision gaming isn't real. It's a myth lol. You can't name a handful because we don't even have 5.
Make sure you also check out Caleb's Hisense U8H vs. TCL 6-Series comparison: ruclips.net/video/7S8hgDhipFc/видео.html
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Thanks Caleb for these reviews and looking very forward to your side by side comparison with the Hisense U8H. Will be interesting for sure as Stop the FOMO has done this with the U8H the clear winner. I already have a Roku TCL 6 series 2019 model and have become totally at ease with the Roku system, its simplicity, but it's a bit long in the tooth with its 60 hz panel and basically poor studder performance when watching 24p movies. I would dread having to switch over to the U8H's Google OS. But I admit that after some other comparison videos and articles on side by side comparisons of these two TVs, the Hisense may be just too hard to pass by despite having to learn a new OS. And please go in depth on the U8H's built in speaker system, FOMO says the built-in speakers are among the best he's ever heard for built-in, with a built in bass on back of tv, so good many won't need a sound bar.
If you do get Hisense get a Roku streaming stick so you’re used to the platform
Might just be my personal opinion/budget but I feel the normal price without any reduction makes it a harder buy considering Sony/Hisense etc other brands have very competitive prices. The tcl seems nice though but a bit hard buy for me to pull the trigger. I might test out the cheapest version though just to see or can use it as a spare room tv. Great review though thx
I have the last Gen tcl r646 and it's a great tv for its price. I use it for PC gaming and have no issues. Ppl did experience issues but it's been updated and no longer has issues anymore.
@@baseballreg123 my tv still running strong whatever rig your running probably not strong enough
Hey Caleb, great fan of yours here. If it's possible, your review of TCL C735 would be really helpful! Thanks for your great work!
Edit: Really was not expecting to see my country (Georgia) here :D
Someone must have been reading regarding previous youtube videos freezing up iPad RUclips client when you try to enlarge the window. This video I can play on my iPad and the enlarge button works and doesn't lock up my RUclips client. Multiple ones before this video did this, and this one works. 😃Thanks to the person who resolved this issue.
Always love your reviews! You’re the main reason I went with this same TV. My only issue is that I run my tv through the e-ARC output, but my AV receiver (Denon X-2000) supports 4K, but not 120hz or Dolby vision. I’ve been scratching my head on how to run the full specs of my Series X while getting sound through my receiver without having to spend a ton for a newer one.
Just connect the Xbox to the tv then run an optical from the tv to the Denon.
Ok I figured it out. Got my new tv yesterday. The tv has a EARC HDMI out. I connected an hdmi from that to the ARC on my Av receiver. In the receiver settings I turned hdmi arc on the “tv” source and now my new tv pushes the atmos/digital sound info to the receiver when I’m on one of the other 3 tv hdmi sources when having the “tv” source on my receiver selected
Loved This video. Thank you. I have a 65 inch r646. Wanted to get a 75r 655. Did you notice any raised black bars in your testing? Thanks.
Caleb, If you receive the TCL 5 Series 2022, would you please do a review on it. It’s selling , but there’re know display models in the box stores to view.
Thanks in advance.
I really enjoy watching your videos, and it’s one helped me choose my purchase of 85R655 tv. I have had it for a little over a month now but have been getting bold white vertical bars that come up from the bottom of the screen, they don’t show for long but it very annoying to say the least. Just wondering if you have ever seen this and if you have could you give any help. Ty
If we take Samsung, LG, Sony, and Hisense with which models from this brand can you directly compare this TV, especially picture quality?
I have TCL P607 from 2018, but I'm starting to get the upgrade itch even though it still works great.
Looking forward to your versus video with the U8H.
Any word on the TCL 8-series ? It's the 8 series I've been waiting for but have heard nothing yet and we're now well into October. Are we even getting the 8-series here in the U.S. ? Seems like Hisense will get my money with the U8H if I don't hear any announcements from TCL regarding the 8-series in the next couple of weeks.
I bought the 2018 version of this TV and it’s been great. Great picture quality and all. I now have a PS5 and Series X so this TV would be great. Unfortunately I still have a perfectly functioning TV so I won’t be upgrading anytime soon. Great video though.
i think so 2..i just bought 85 inch R655 from BESTBUY for $2000..u cant beat that quality & price ...cant wait delivery tomorrow
@@SFBenjaminK how are you liking that new TV? I'm thinking about getting the same one you have but in the 75 inch version.
@@capnsnaxx
Sorry i cancelled the delivery got a really good deal on SAMSUNG 85" Class Neo QLED 4K QN90B Series Mini LED for $2500 & LOVIN IT is better TV in quality & pic ...BUT if u wanna 75 inch for $1500 get Hisense 75U8H QLED Series Quantum 4K ULED Mini-LED better an this TCL, BUT if u lucky to find one in stock in ANY size anywhere for month now , i wants to get that in 75 inch U8H is VERY hard to get, VERY good TV in pic & blks even almost the same pic, blks & Brightness u getting like $3-$4000 TVS is proof is in videos here in utube side by side ...BUT is very hard to get one in stock to buy sales like hot cakes & got glorious reviews all over internet & utube as BEST in budget TV of the year , so good luck 👍
@@SFBenjaminK nice man! Yeah that Hisense U8H is on my short list as well. But with it being so hard to get I've pretty much started to consider the U7H instead or this TCL. So it's pretty much between those two for me.
@@capnsnaxx
well wait around till end of the month like by blk Friday/cyber Monday ,pretty sure gonna get that U8H back in stock because they out for couple of months now , if u NOT hurry & always check with AMAZON daily sometimes what i heard brings few in stock but sales out pretty quick , never know might u get lucky...anyway happy holidays!
Did you do something different with your camera settings with this video? It looks very different, contrasty, the equipment behind you and on the wall lost in shadow compared to other recent videos. Maybe you had the ISO setting set very high?
Thanks for the video, Caleb. I was wondering why this TV has such bad reviews on Amazon?
Do you think the deep blacks and all the other stuff can be fixed by a firm update great job.
Definitely looking forward to the comparison! The U8H seems to be the winner, but man it's really hard to find one in stock
Good luck finding either in stock honestly
646 on sale this black Friday is the real winner btw. It's going to be 600-700$
If you are looking for 120Hz or VRR gaming, then the TCL is the winner by far.
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I believe U8H has the same thing.
@@Michael45007 No, it does not. I have it.
Worth upgrading from the 635?
For the game mode, use DTM, it will make the tv follow the EOTF accurately, this based on HDTV test review of the C835 which is the R655.
That option was locked out in game mode. I’m going to give it another go. But most of the tests I ran with DTM showed no or barely visible difference.
@@Caleb_Denison You could also try running the HDR/HGIG setup utility on the xbox. I noticed when I hooked up my xbox series x that it defaulted to a much brighter minimum luminance than my TV is actually capable of. I know you aren't playing games, but it is possible that since the TV automatically detected the xbox and switched itself to game mode, it could be using those HGIG tone mapping settings for anything coming from the xbox.
are you sure that the c835 is the R655؟؟؟
What about the c935 model equal to ؟؟
@@hashimyousif8716 yes the C835 is the R655.
As for the C935, it is still unreleased in the NA, and when it will come, it will be called Q854
@@mabombo8221 Then what is the C735? I thought it was the R655...
I’m torn between this and the x90k, I’m worried about the motion not being near as good. But mini led would be nice for contrast
Even with mini-leds, the A90K has terrible blooming.
@@Mazoku_Clan apparently an update addressed the blooming issue. It’s supposedly not nearly as bad now.
Nice review keep up the good work
For SDR peak brightness, did you set the backlight to 100 with mode Brighter? Because once you get to 65-70 on the backlight, it gets super bright for SDR, any higher and you are staring at the sun.
I wonder how new TCL TVs hold up in the long term.
I have an R605 and I have had to replace the power board twice. It's a known common issue with this TV. The good thing is that it is a cheap part and only takes a few minutes to swap out.
P607 running every day since launch with no issues. Best thing I've ever had.
I have Gamma flicker issues when using it in VRR in some games on PC.
I also cannot get into Game Mode with a 3080, not that it matters cause I still turn on 120/VRR separately and the Input Lag is phenomenal anyway.
EDIT: cable was the issue
Thanks God NOT into the GAMES stuffs so don't bother me in these kinda Budget TVS , BUT Bought the NEW 85 inch just released on BESTBUY for now, for only $2000...U can f*n beat that in price, size & quality
as usual, cable was the issue, tried two certified opticals and no luck, had to go back to a copper one
Looking at this tcl, u8h, or lg b2 in 75. Can’t seem to find the Hisense anywhere and the oled b2 is just a few hundred more. What would y’all lean towards. Medium lit living room will be its home
This, or best buys LG qned83? I have had both in the last 4 days and have had to return both do to defects. They are delivering my choice of either in 3 days, and I need to decide which to one to go with. I think the TCL had better image quality, and better blacks, being a VA, versus LG's ips, but now I dont know which one to go with.
What tv would you recommend for a room that has light coming thru the windows at a similar price point.
Caleb does your 75inch give off heat from the screen? Mine does. Normal?
Calebbbbb don't forget to talk about the TCL Chopping off half the vertical pixels at 4k 120hz!!! Apparently that's the biggest problem for gamers. I believe the Hisense does that too. May not be as visible but we need to see it! Haha.
Wait hold up It does it too!?
Would you spare some time to recommend a TV for Bright room like sunroom. Even anything from OLED lineup
A lot of people claim there is a squeal from the back of this tv when the screen goes black, have you heard this is there a fix or are they defective??
Was just getting ready to buy but may change my mind!!
I hope you take a min to respond.
I posted this on another video you did.
I have been in the industry 43 years and we recently tried TCL on a budget Bar project 3 hours out of town installing 19 TCL TV's. Two were defective out of the box. I have spent 37 hours on the phone over 16 call ins with the worst customer service I have ever experienced including dealing with the government and health insurance. Every time I call I am required to repeat the 12 step troubleshooting procedure of factory resets, emailing videos of the problems, and shooting a picture of the serial number EVEN THOUGH I have a case numbers. It is designed to never take care of a warranty issue because the TV is so cheap you will give up. Our new company policy is if someone asks for TCL, we will charge $600 an hour to install them. We are also telling CEDIA, CE Pro, and INFO Com until they go bankrupt.
Thinking of buying. Can I place my current Vizio sound bar on the TCL center mount stand? Really don’t want to mount my TV or sound bar
How are tvs that are produced now struggle with low bit stuff? My 9 year old 1080p sharp has zero macro blocks. But when I watch the same content on my 2022 hisense u6h it's so bad. Macro blocks all over the place. But streaming content looks amazing. It's not even a competition between the two tvs.
How does this compare to the Vizio MQX? Secondly, how is the customer service? Also, since it’s Chinese do you worry about it (and Hisense) getting banned like Huawei and ZTE products.
Nowadays it's hard to find an r655 so what do you think about the Q7, which one do you recommend of the two?
Hi Caleb , I am viewer from Australia , What i had noticed these Hisense U8G and TCL 6 Series which you review for US are may be different model with same name available in countries like UK , Australia , Would you be able to add a disclaimer or clarify to your viewers that . The TV available in US and the review is not applicable to Other Countries like Australia , UK . What these Manufacturers had identified is that they - sent there best product to US and then your review mislead viewers to purchase them in other countries . They make cheap version of there TV in other countries . Your help would be helpful
Is He Reviewing the tcl 835 ( Europe model) ?
Would you think the U7H in 85 inch is better ?
When can we expect the comparison with the U8H?
How does this compare to the C935? I don't think we have the R655 in the UK.
Can you turn motion smoothing on and review it's quality for all TVs? There's a good 30% of us who really appreciate frame interpolation tech. For me, it would be the single most important software feature for image quality.
Why?
@@BB-ed4om Because good motion smoothing is the single most important difference in picture quality between TVs to me
By your math, 70% abhor motion smoothing. I'm one of them. I don't want to watch soap operas.
@@bluemarvin743 only the older generation think of it as that. I watch more RUclips than soap operas, which often is shot in 60fps. Check some snowboarding films with and without motion smoothing and you'll agree with me. Don't watch Saving Private Ryan with motion smoothing
I’m going to have to return my 55r655 due to loud screeching whenever there’s a dark scene transition. Completely ruins the cinematic experience. Apparently, this is a pretty common problem shown in Best Buy’s review section and is probably why there’s already an open box available of this exact TV.
There’s a separate high pitched screech that’s common in most TVs. This one’s in the 10-12k hz range it’s always present as long as the power cable is plugged in. Really annoying for tinitus.
One thing that this TV seems to lack is Dolby Atmos passthrough by eArc. I cannot get Dolby Atmos to passthrough to my Vizio M5124a-H6 soundbar from my Series X. It seems i need to connect my Xbox to the soundbar and the soundbar to the TV.
Every time I use the voice-control, the television replies, making a lot of noise that is VERY annoying. I wonder if there is a way to turn off the reply of the television, thanks.
Would you guys buy this or the visio M series??
How can I READ this review? I went to the DT website but couldn't find a printed version?
What’s the recommended picture settings for a dark room? Just picked this up
But does it still have the green tint on some yellow hues?
I have a question.
I have a PS4 (the regular one) and my TCL hooked up to a sound bar.
When I switch input to play my PS4, my TV switches to 1080p 60hz.
When I switch back to my television, does the television switch back to 120 hz 4k programming or do I have to manually switch back to that setting?
Thanks
Please check 4K RUclips videos with VP9 codec with fine lines, repeating patterns, geometry, fine lines, cityscapes. On my 65R655, there is Moiré effect in fine line details and shimmer from jaggies and stair-stepping in fine details not seen with the same content on the Hisense U8H or other display. I'm hoping this is the only way this happens. Thank you.
Maybe try turning off Game Mode on the Xbox, but leave it enabled on the TV. Games were really blown out for me on my 6-Series when both were enabled.
Can try that. But without changing anything on the Xbox, the TV looked dramatically different in a non-game mode picture preset.
Wasn't Caleb the host for the TruValu shootout this year? I can't find a video about it here, what am i doing wrong in my search?
How does this compare to the R635?
Hi great video I have a Samsung q70t with the tcl 655 be a noticeable upgrade. Thks in advance
Could somebody please tell me what just happened to my tv? I was watching TV on the Sling TV app. All of a sudden there was a very loud high pitch screaming sound coming from the back of the TV. It was a constant screaming sound almost like an alarm or buzzer. It sounded like the TV speakers were at full volume, it was so loud. The remote control inputs still worked, but there was no sound from the TV other than the screaming noise. I turned the TV off, and the loud noise continued with it off. I had to unplug the TV for it to stop. Once I plugged the TV back in, everything worked fine again. Could this be some sort of extremely loud coil whine that just appeared and then went away?
Compare it to the LG C2 😅. I got the C2 but I've had a 65" TCL over 4 yrs and it's amazing. C2 is for my room but I wouldn't pay that again instead I'd get the TCL in the largest size and still have money left over. LG C2 is the best but TCL is close enough, definitely better than Samsung or Sony.
How does compare with the 646?
If you could only choose one based on compatibility with Dolby vision and Dolby Atmos sound bars. As well as picture quality, Would you pick TCL or Hisense? And would you pick roku or Google tv?
I have the same questions…thank you!
I'd go with the TCL Roku tv, I had the TCL Google and the OS was laggy and apps wouldn't load up fast, I since replaced it with the Roku version an haven't looked back. I heard Hisense is good too but from talking to the Best buy rep, he said the TCLs are better.🤷🏿♂️
@@tlfelder9275 I ended up getting a Sony XR
is there a way to know the calibrated specs that you used in the Nit-Nerds section??
I had 4 dark horizontal dots on the bottom screen. I'm exchanging it for another one and playing the panel lottery.
My 2018 TCL just burned its LCD panel, after 4 years, my $600 tv is not functional. Super not happy. Had a repair dude show up, can’t believe it. I’d love another TV but with a Best Buy 4tear warranty I’m still loosing. Won’t be getting another. Got my mom two 4series and one just overheated. Not ok with this..
I have zero clue about tvs. Is there function that cleans up those "trashy blocky" image you mentioned with different manufacturers? Is it called upscaler?
cool review.. :) i just bought this one TCL 55QLED860 for my xbox x and i love it :) i dont know how its called in usa :) its the 120/144 hz model :)
R655 or XL?
75 inch Hisense U8H or TCL R655?
I'm confused... isn't there a Roku TV app that will let owners choose "Expert Settings" on their TCL Roku TVs? In other words give the owner access to more calibration settings and such.
Yes its really great
Does anybody know what the model number for the 6 series is in the UK? Thanks
I looked for this model in the UK but also couldn't find it. Wondering how it compares to the C935.
Unfortunately, the TCL panel lottery on the 55 inch is on the losing side. I exchanged for a new one 3 times at Best Buy and they all had the same panel issues with thick, diffused horizontal lines going across the middle of the screen, some worse than the other. Gave up and spent the extra money for a LG C2, no issues with it at all. Overall, not worth the savings in money when it's a gamble if you are going to get poor panel quality.
Yeah alot of that is TCL and Hisense processors, which effects the dse on the panels. They have to step it up on the QC of that to really compete with the big 3
glad you went with the C2. My old tv was a budget TCL 4k from 2020 and the C2 is worlds apart in quality even tho its on the pricier side. Still worth it!
@@Bdot888 have you had the c1? thinking about getting one
@@joze9127 No the C2 was my first oled. But it you see a good priced C1 then i would say go for it. The C2 is not a huge jump over the C1 and you would be perfectly happy with the C1 from reviews ive seen. Go for whatever has the better price to performance!
@@Bdot888 gotchu thanks
Im currently comparing U7H and TCL 6 series. Is U7H better for bright room viewing compared to TCL 6 series?
The tcl will be marginally better.
My TCL is 18 months old bought it primarily because of your reviews,, was thoroughly happy with the purchase till last week when a vertical green line appeared. Have done what some techs have suggested but no luck, do you think it is worth purchasing a new Ton board and/or a new Main Board as these are probably faulty and the reason for the vertical lines, any help here is appreciated
No new tv will be a much better value than going down that rabbit hole.
Have you tried squeezing the frame where the lines appear?
Do you have the calibration specs that you used in the video for picture quality?
I still have the R617 from 2018. I realized that it had just been updated and am curious as to why the gamma was changed to 2.4. I used to do 2.4 for about a year but opted to do 2.2 again. Wondering if it's a bug or if TCL/Roku believes 2.4 is "correct".
I like running 2.0 on the games
@@cntswn I do 2.2. It's entirely dependent on room lighting and I play in a nearly pitch-black room when gaming and watching movies. 2.0 is for brighter rooms.
caught this bad boy on sale this morning out of the blue at best buy. within a week went from 699 - 799 back down to 599. got it with the five year insurance
just paid for mine gonna go pick it up tomorrow 65 inch for 550 is crazy ill add the protection plan on friday i cant wait
Anyone know if there has been a new 5 series released recently?
Hi I am in Australia . I just got this tv . I have all apple products and it’s an android. So I did as instructed and skipped a section.
Now it asked I enter m6 PIN number I did then it asked for language ,English . Now it won’t move off language nothing I do including turning the tv off
I have already made up my mind for the U8H but I still want to see your comparison!!
Same here, looking forward to the tv and the comparison.
Trust me U8H gonna blow the R655 away it gets significantly brighter over 2000 nits, in fact it’s the brightest tv this year
I have the R655. It's fantastic. I recommend it. That said, I think the U8H beats it.
Caleb, so the question I keep trying to get answered is if you want a large screen pure Roku experience, I.e. turn on the set and it open right up to the Roku Home Screen, is the 65”/75” r655 the best option out there. My wife doesn’t want to see a Google or Samsung start page, just straight to Roku. I assume the U8H isn’t an option. Thoughts?
Yup. I’d do the R655
Maybe the xbox app was doing SDR 4K for HoD?
Just FYI the Roku app to adjust Gamma and RGB levels is broken. It is a known issue at Roku and there is a year-long thread on Reddit about the issue. It's a Roku not a TCL problem and the workaround is using a very old version of the Roku android app. I'm not going to pay $1500 for the 75" version and have any part of it not work properly. It is only the "expert picture settings" that get this operation error. Like the reviewer I'm not a fan of taking expert or fine adjustments off the TV and hiding it from users especially if it doesn't work. Roku has been zero help in resolving despite numerous e-mails.
What's the difference between this R655 and the European TCL C83 and C93?
I have the same question. What is the European model equivalent?
Here in Eugene Or, our ABC outlet is 720P, our CBS, NBC are 1080P. I have the rights to view the Xfinity Streaming app, but only use on occasion and I don't pay for the privilege, it's part of the Comcast Community's. FS1 for drag racing, The Five and very little else.
i would get this tv over the u6k but the amount of glitches it has is really turning me away from it especially since the smart features working is pretty important to me since i’m not hooking it up to a console or apple tv.
A lot of people are complaining about a coil whine with this tv.
What do I think of the R655? I think if this is calibrated then it's best for movies 🍿 and for those who stream their favorite shows using that support Dolby Vision. I just ordered this and plan to use it in my bedroom to stream shows. I bought this because of the dynamic range Dolby Vision gives you. But for a living room I'd save more for a brighter mini-LED tv. Maybe a Sony or Samsung.
hows the local dimming?
@@tony23807 it’s not as bad as some people cry about on the internet
The TCL R655 was not submitted for THX Certification... However the 8k TCL 65R648 is THX certified. Be sure to read the fine print.
I just got my TCL 55R655 today and after getting it set up and turned on I sat down to watch some tv. Right off the bat I noticed how vivid the picture was compared to my 14 yr old Sony Bravia rear projection tv. What I also noticed is motion blur...LOTS OF MOTION BLUR. It's nauseating. I only have on internet option where I live and it's not very fast but it's been fast enough to stream with a Roku ultra connected via an ethernet cable from the router. Can this blur be adjusted out or at least minimized so it's not nauseating? If so...how?
From what I've seen you can turn it off. Caleb skims over it a bit but shows the option on his unboxing of this TV.
646 vs 655. If you could have the 646 for 200.00 less is it a better buy? or is the 655 worth the extra?
For $200, I would get the 646. I dont own either but I'm shopping them and the difference is minimal from what i can tell
GOT looks better with the lifted colors. A lot of these Directors don't realize people can't watch GOT with young family and we have to wait late at night before watching the show. Dark scenes are difficult at night becuase we already lower the brightness to save our eyes from the extra bright scenes. Not everyone watching GOT in a studio with perfect lighting and sound control. It's driving me crazy and is the reason why I wouldn't watch lots of shows out there. Another example is Ozark.
Wil & Jada only watch programs on micro LED
I was looking at either getting a TCL 6 series or LG QNED and was wondering what's the better option? I'm gonna use them mostly for gaming on my Series X.
Lg is the better option if the QNED has HDMI 2.1 support. Game mode options work surprisingly well on my LG OLED C1 with my Ps5 and Series X.
@@jovanyvera6963 Awesome! Thank you very much. I see an LG 75" in my near future. 😊
@@scottyrob82 no problem. I would make sure that tv also supports vrr that is a must to have a smooth experience while gaming.
The TCL6 series is a much better TV for cheaper. Don't buy an LG QNED most use IPS panels which are inferior.
Only LG's OLED TVs should be considered. Steer clear of their QNED line.
Wemax 30% discount?
How would you say this set compares to the R646 since it seems they have ironed out the majority of the issues it had?
It's the same tv but refined a little bit. They aren't world's apart.
he dont go backword
the colors don't really seem that vibrant compared to some of those oled tvs
I would like to see a comparison between the TCL and the Hisense to see which one is better in a living room (not so much for games, except for the occasional Switch game).
Most people already did one and the U8H wiped it but it doesn't have true 4k 120hz at the moment but will in the form of an update. plus it's got posterization issues while gaming but it's possible that could be fixed in a update like the 4k 120hz will be.
U8H completely smokes this tv in every category the U8H is the best mini LED tv this year
@@hypno17 What do you mean when you say "most people already did one and the U8H wiped it"?
Do you mean that there are reviews (other than FOMO's) comparing the two TV's? If so could you point me to those comparisons? Thanks.
Could you do a review of the 2022 samsung q80b?
Reviews are great, but wish they would mention reported issues which with this model R655 has a coil whine noise. This noise is what's holding me back from buying this model.
I just got this tv 2 days ago. I just noticed yesterday that when turning the tv on or off, it makes a audible click sound like a relay. Not sure If this normal or not? I thought it was silent?
Looking at this tv for my girlfriend, I will say I have an LG CX and it does the same audible click as well not sure why but I have had no issues with it!
What tv has no macro blocking?
Can the tv do 4k 120hz, dolby vision, and vrr all at the same time in game mode. I remember hearing that last years models were not able to do this. I believe vrr and 120hz were not capable of being used together, and i’m almost certain dolby vision gaming and vrr did not work together.
Thanks in advance.
Heard it can't along with the Hisense U8H because they still aren't using the new chips but The 2023 models I heard will as they should have the new latests ones that this years sadly didn't receive.
The only tvs that currently can do 120fps Dolby Vision are the LG OLED.
There are functionally no real Dolby vision games. Halo infinite is one, but it looks just as good in HDR.
Dolby vision gaming isn't real. It's a myth lol. You can't name a handful because we don't even have 5.
@@paulcox2447 True sadly.....