You Might Be an Oath of Vengeance Paladin | Paladin Subclass Guide for DND 5e

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @robertprueter3292
    @robertprueter3292 Год назад +280

    Favorite line I saw a player use as a Vengeance Pally "that's big talk from someone in Smite range."

    • @re1v3r
      @re1v3r Год назад +4

      I laffed 😂😂😂

    • @legendphil6232
      @legendphil6232 8 месяцев назад +3

      xD

    • @michaeledmunds7056
      @michaeledmunds7056 7 месяцев назад +11

      Remember, against an oath of vengeance paladin, you are never NOT in smite range.

  • @VerbenaComfrey
    @VerbenaComfrey 5 месяцев назад +50

    I heard "Avenging angel" and was ready for "Angel with a shotgun" before remembering I wasnt listening to Pointy Hat

  • @ojodeoro1106
    @ojodeoro1106 Год назад +282

    Am still mad at people not respecting the agreement of voting bard after monk. You guys are bunch of oathbreakers

    • @jeffreyeshbach9372
      @jeffreyeshbach9372 Год назад +6

      Right here with ya, dude. But it was still a great video. Maybe we can get the astral monk and lore bard folks to unite the next time around.

    • @TheOnyxFoxReturns
      @TheOnyxFoxReturns Год назад +3

      Same, but hey, looks like it's finally bard's turn! As far as I saw on the vote so far...

  • @erikwilliams1562
    @erikwilliams1562 Год назад +62

    When Vengeance isnt a motivation, but a lifestyle
    Edit: i love the running "whatever spells are" gag.
    Almost applies to Warlocks too!

    • @genghiskhan6809
      @genghiskhan6809 10 месяцев назад +3

      Except for eldritch blast.

    • @dletagames920
      @dletagames920 4 месяца назад

      ​@@genghiskhan6809That's the only spell warlocks care about

  • @johnblain4477
    @johnblain4477 Год назад +156

    Time to be Batman while screaming “I AM VENGEANCE”

    • @tanks608
      @tanks608 Год назад +6

      I am the knight

    • @manleychenoweth8144
      @manleychenoweth8144 Год назад +5

      That's how I described this class to a friend, Batman in plate armor

    • @erikwilliams1562
      @erikwilliams1562 Год назад +5

      ​@@tanks608a person of culture I see.
      RIP Kevin Conroy

  • @j.thehappywyvern6397
    @j.thehappywyvern6397 Год назад +39

    Ah Vengeance my first and favorite subclass I ever played in 5e.

  • @a.z.pantera5577
    @a.z.pantera5577 Год назад +178

    If you multiclass at least 5 levels into Sorcerer, you can get Shadow Blade, which does ridiculous damage on it's own especially when upcast, but with Divine Smite, you kinda just... delete whatever you touch.

    • @marbled31
      @marbled31 Год назад +26

      Three levels. Shadow Blade is second level.

    • @a.z.pantera5577
      @a.z.pantera5577 Год назад +10

      @@marbled31 Oh doi! Don't know why I keep thinking it's 3rd level. My bad.

    • @francescobisighin2495
      @francescobisighin2495 Год назад +13

      My most powerful PC was a Sorcadin,with the afromentioned Shadow blade+booming blade+smite......
      It was glorious
      Yes i know that TECHNICALLY they don't work together but my DM allowed it

    • @shreyasnathani7628
      @shreyasnathani7628 Год назад +3

      nah nah NAH u go warlock instead of sorcerer. metamagic is cool but not as cool as hexblade curse, using charisma instead of strength on weapons, 2 invocations, a pact boon, AND shadow blade

    • @jordanwhite8718
      @jordanwhite8718 20 дней назад

      And this is why I always remind my players that multi classing is an optional rule. And I ban it at every opportunity.

  • @Kavanaugh_Kohls
    @Kavanaugh_Kohls Год назад +47

    A Vengeance Paladin who seeks to take revenge on the deity they serve for the death of their younger brother

  • @FireHawkISA
    @FireHawkISA Год назад +23

    Ay homie, we wouldn't support as hard as we do if it wasn't top tier content.
    Talk about hitting the ground rolling, you definitely set your bar high. The fact that you decided to continue at that high bar, and engaing a community you probably didn't expect to immediately break into, despite probably slowing your upload schedule shows that you're dedicated, and you care.
    So we can care, and not feel bad 😉 keep it up!

  • @Aiden-wx9xr
    @Aiden-wx9xr Год назад +17

    I remember playing as a dhampir paladin in a gothic campaign. My party was fighting against mutated vampire count and when im about to run out spell and my channel divinity is about to wear off, i slap my trusty silver sword with a level 3 divine smite.
    Im basically in the front, toe to toe with the bbeg, and surrounded by his vampire minions. After my turn came the sorcerer of my party.
    I said to her "Rain them down." And the sorcerer almost hesitated and reply "but you're in front." I reply again "Let them burn."
    The sorcerer starts droping fireball towards the bbeg and the minions. Since i have the shield master feat, i rolled nat20 in my dex save.
    I never felt so alive...

  • @harbear6276
    @harbear6276 Год назад +10

    Recently played an Oath of Vengeance Paladin Hexblade multiclass and this video is pretty accurate. Its just nothing but stacking buffs and other ways to add damage on top one another until you fish into a crit and just splatter an enemy's guts all over their carpet. I even had boots of speed so with haste active I could and would be anywhere my team needed me and ensured that if I killed whatever I was fighting I could quickly move onto another victim.

  • @jeffreyeshbach9372
    @jeffreyeshbach9372 Год назад +23

    Still want the “lore accord” to come to fruition but I can’t deny this video was amazing. As always, it gave me a much needed laugh at the end of a long day. Big congrats on the 10k and keep the solid material coming. You deserve the recognition for your hard work and dedication.

  • @Comicsluvr
    @Comicsluvr Год назад +3

    I just never get tired of this series! I wanna see the Whisper Bard next!

  • @disgruntledbob2812
    @disgruntledbob2812 Год назад +14

    Get ready for some more positivity bitsh
    I haven’t seen D&D class content this good since the legendary A Crap Guide to D&D, and easily the best subclass series there is. You’ve more than earned our subs with your wit and editing skill, here’s to hopin’ you’ll get many more soon!

  • @James_Irish
    @James_Irish Год назад +1

    I found you recently, and you seem to be touching on the subclasses I'm learning about recently, so this is perfect! I think I will subscribe!

  • @neon-rc6lc
    @neon-rc6lc Год назад +1

    Another absolute banger as always can’t wait to see the next one

  • @re1v3r
    @re1v3r Год назад +6

    As a WH40k Black Templar with a picture of Sigismund on my wall, Vengeance Paladin fits me nooice.
    SUFFER NOT THE HERETIC!!!
    FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
    Omg!!! 😱 i posted before the reinhardt, Reinhardt, REINHARDT clip.
    Insta subbed! The edits, memes in this vid are 💯 🔥 top shelf m8!!!

  • @wrightcore3367
    @wrightcore3367 Год назад

    My favorite Oath of my favorite class. I’ve played three Vengeance Paladins at this point, and they’ve all been absolutely awesome!

  • @ACR2k11
    @ACR2k11 Год назад +11

    Inigo Montoya is a Dex based Dex Vengeance paladin!

  • @theblindjedi41
    @theblindjedi41 Год назад +1

    Love the oath of vengeance; just fantastic. Oath of conquest is pretty great too.

  • @rs-bx9im
    @rs-bx9im Год назад +13

    Congratulations on getting sponsored! Its more than deserved for all the A+ content. The humor here is absolutely baller.

  • @RPGFanboy14
    @RPGFanboy14 Год назад +1

    Congratulations on 10k man! You deserve it. Looking forward to the next video.

  • @michaeledmunds7056
    @michaeledmunds7056 7 месяцев назад

    "What attacks can bad guys make from the grave?"
    Ghosts: "...."

  • @rickxhoshinji
    @rickxhoshinji Год назад +9

    Currently playing a vengeance paladin while only knowing the mechanics, but somehow my character fits into every one of these personality traits.

  • @cyancybershock719
    @cyancybershock719 Год назад +1

    its fun to stay at the YMBA

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 26 дней назад

    Guts is nice, but you might also have some inspiration to take from Gotz of the iron hand.

  • @kableedge9278
    @kableedge9278 Год назад +1

    I'm definitely a vengeance paladin #CompellDuel and walk past everyone until I reach my target? Yes please

  • @MrThewalkingdead
    @MrThewalkingdead Год назад

    I know it is not the "intent" but Relentless Avenger is a GREAT kiting ability, especially with polearm master.

  • @kubiakpella
    @kubiakpella Год назад +3

    Oathbreaker Paladin pls

  • @wingchun2147
    @wingchun2147 Год назад

    Do i already know everything about the Vengeance subclass? Yes
    Am i gonna watch the video anyways? Absolutely

  • @kyloben8537
    @kyloben8537 2 месяца назад +1

    "any who harm the innocent mark themselves as my nemesis, they sentence themselves to death by their actions and I am the one to meet that sentence out."

  • @jakk222rem
    @jakk222rem Год назад

    I think jocat wants his smite back.

  • @johnfranklin87
    @johnfranklin87 Год назад

    My like just made it go from 1.2 to 1.3 . . I've never seen the number go up past 1k . . Oh and the video was amazing too 🤣🤣

  • @Vampireknight99
    @Vampireknight99 Год назад +4

    As a Paladin main I approve

  • @jabious
    @jabious Год назад +2

    been here since bladesinger and its only gotten better keep it up man this is my favorite dnd content

  • @nabra97
    @nabra97 Год назад +1

    "I was supposed to be the edgy one! Why I am the only person in this group who sees something slightly wrong with the idea of genociding this tribe for trying to rob us? What's wrong with you, guys?!" (actually, I know the reason, but it's related to some pretty messed up out-of-game stuff I don't really want to talk about). To be honest, the oath of vengeance is a bit of a stretch for my character, it's just the only one I managed to connect with low-key anarchy (besides Ancients, but fey and ecoactivism were super out of place), and yes, it's super good.

  • @jordanshizuka3224
    @jordanshizuka3224 Год назад +1

    These videos are dangerous because I want to. Do. Them. All.

  • @Jordan.A.07
    @Jordan.A.07 Год назад +1

    I am so pleased with YMBD's use of the SMITE joke. 😂
    The only way I could see said jokes getting better is by making the words shake or move around instead of flash, as the oscillating lights kind of hurt my eyes when I look at them.
    But yeah, great video. Can't wait to see the next one!

  • @MissionSilo
    @MissionSilo Год назад

    What attacks can the bad guys do from the grave? None!
    Technically correct but this is dnd.

  • @maphestispain203
    @maphestispain203 Год назад +1

    Kinda wish their last feature boosted damage or paralyzed creatures instead of running them out of smiting distance.

  • @DNDNDumbness
    @DNDNDumbness Год назад +1

    May you please make an Oath of Conquest subclass guide please. I also love your channel and you are extremely under rated.

  • @uksoloz
    @uksoloz Месяц назад

    is there a vengeance monk subclass i dont know about?? O.o or am i going to have to build one........

  • @Siegsoul
    @Siegsoul Год назад +1

    If you haven't all ready rune knight

  • @Pkhemi
    @Pkhemi 8 месяцев назад +1

    I personally allow all vengeance paladins to gain the spell "Fuck that one guy in particular" as a 1 a day class spell that can be cast through their slots

    • @michaeledmunds7056
      @michaeledmunds7056 7 месяцев назад

      "How in the blood soaked protestant hell did he do that??"
      "Fuck you, that's how."

  • @mikfhan
    @mikfhan 4 месяца назад

    Just popping in to say I thought the thumbnail said Degeneracy paladin. I feel cheated! xD

  • @tobiasviby
    @tobiasviby Год назад

    I do enjoy 💥💥💥

  • @loganmosig
    @loganmosig 2 месяца назад

    Video format could've been more inspired, makes me want to watch Runesmith.

  • @rashawnw3689
    @rashawnw3689 Год назад

    Do the Drake Warden!!!!

  • @edxcal84
    @edxcal84 5 месяцев назад

    I just pieced together a Fallen Aasimar Vengeance Paladin for a new game my friends and I are going to start soon. I normally play fairly basic classes, Rogue, Fighter, Wizard are my normal go too, but I wanted to try something different. I'm fairly excited to try this character out, I started D&D 20 years ago with 3.5 and often still think of the traditional Paladin and have often been annoyed by the newer Paladins with more flavor, but reading through the description and building one has my interest! Though I'm more of an RPer, I can't wait to experience the melee potential of this beast!

  • @thecheesen
    @thecheesen Год назад +1

    _It's fun to stay at the YMBA_ 🎶

  • @aronsayo5044
    @aronsayo5044 Год назад +1

    Sooooo… Guts is a vengeance paladin 😂

  • @Super-Saiyan9665
    @Super-Saiyan9665 Год назад +1

    Oath of Ancients?

  • @gregs757
    @gregs757 Год назад +1

    i just want soul knife

    • @dharmeshmistry342
      @dharmeshmistry342 Год назад

      I’m playing a Soulknife and it’s been very fun. Being really good at everything you want to be good at is very helpful.

  • @garthodowd6846
    @garthodowd6846 Год назад

    Oh man, I've just discovered the oath of vengeance and found your page while researching on RUclips,im subscribing!

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard 9 месяцев назад

    The character I'm playing as in Curse of Strahd is a female headless Reborn(Yes I wanted to play as a Dullahan without having to homebrew) who happens to be a Oath of Vengeance Paladin with her backstory being after her and the noble family she belonged to the Ashland Family were wrongfully accused of a crime they didn't commit by a wicked rival family the Blackthorn Family and their allies they were wrongfully executed aka legal murder with her manner of murder being decapitation with as final insult the Blackthorn Family taking her head as a trophy and throwing her fresh headless corpse complete with signet ring, and scroll of pedigree in a ditch but unbeknownst to the Blackthorn Family and their allies before being beheaded she swore an oath of vengeance against the Blackthorn Family and their allies a oath that was heard by the Raven Queen who in exchange for becoming one of the goddess's eternal champions of vengeance against evil, raised her from the dead and gave her the power to take vengeance upon the Blackthorn Family, and their allies.
    Yes my main character inspiration was The Crow.

  • @aquila873
    @aquila873 Год назад +2

    Congrats on 10K!

  • @profc9916
    @profc9916 6 месяцев назад +1

    This slapped, subscribed 🎉

  • @PaintballaJkilla
    @PaintballaJkilla Год назад

    "F that guy in particular" IS a homebrew spell and it's hilarious.

  • @bluecoconut9543
    @bluecoconut9543 Год назад +1

    Your videos are the best 🔥

  • @dubiousdevil9572
    @dubiousdevil9572 Год назад

    Ayyy thanks Obvious Mimic for sponsoring this! I just bought your PDF and I'm super excited!

  • @fremontstaples1752
    @fremontstaples1752 Год назад

    This was grate

  • @Nickachuuuuu
    @Nickachuuuuu Год назад

    I laughed out loud at every 'whatever those are...' 😂
    Good stuff.

  • @bingbong6800
    @bingbong6800 Год назад +1

    NEW VID POG

  • @theyoungfool.1895
    @theyoungfool.1895 Год назад

    Bruh, ya gotta do soul knife rogue next and please tell me the truth on this
    If you dip into fighter, use the blades teleportation ability, use main, extra, action surge to teleport three times, is this actually possible to do?

  • @ampur2
    @ampur2 Год назад

    This would be my character on BG3, with dueling feats, holding a spear and a shield hehehe

  • @bradwillis7415
    @bradwillis7415 4 месяца назад

    Ordered Wolves of Langston!

  • @MrThewalkingdead
    @MrThewalkingdead Год назад

    4th lvl Paladin Spells don't exist. They're not real.

  • @swordpvnk
    @swordpvnk 9 месяцев назад

    I'm subbing because i love the level of snark in your presentation.

  • @adriansimaicum5454
    @adriansimaicum5454 Год назад

    fore the first time i irl relaited witch what he sed it wos more barbarina rage then f lightneng butch yes

  • @glarak9819
    @glarak9819 Год назад

    Congratulations on 10k you definitely deserve it 🎉 Thank you for making such great videoes ^-^

  • @kirito-mj5nd
    @kirito-mj5nd 8 месяцев назад

    have you mentioned the ability to use SMITE

  • @eliasmancias6163
    @eliasmancias6163 Год назад

    you should totally cover the drakewarden ranger! regardless, loving the content!

  • @johnrushman1586
    @johnrushman1586 2 месяца назад

    Im Batman!

  • @SimplexStorm
    @SimplexStorm Год назад

    This video was sick! BIG congrats on 10,000 my man :)

  • @karolbielik838
    @karolbielik838 Год назад

    Rip Teddy Kacyznski the OG Vengeance Paladin

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod Год назад

    Oath of Conquest is a close second if not it’s equal in power.

  • @lolbots686
    @lolbots686 Год назад

    The matrons chosen,reaper of the dead and ceaseless end of the undead:am i joke?

  • @xavierbelen2913
    @xavierbelen2913 Год назад

    Great vid as always man, looking forward to learn what's the next one

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Год назад +2

    If only Smite worked via the internet...

  • @KingFergus
    @KingFergus 8 месяцев назад

    We need to revisit this video when you figure out which bathroom to use

    • @youmightbeadnd
      @youmightbeadnd  8 месяцев назад +1

      Was that an attempt at a joke?

    • @KingFergus
      @KingFergus 8 месяцев назад

      @@youmightbeadnd unfortunately no....

    • @youmightbeadnd
      @youmightbeadnd  8 месяцев назад +1

      You sure? Because it sounds like the same recycled material every internet creep spouts anytime they have nothing intelligent to say...

    • @KingFergus
      @KingFergus 8 месяцев назад

      @youmightbeadnd funny because I was thinking the same thing about your warn out political jokes in a D&D video lol

    • @youmightbeadnd
      @youmightbeadnd  8 месяцев назад +3

      A.) *worn. Maybe learn to spell before you call others stupid... idk just a thought.
      B.) Cry more? Which one triggered you the most sweetie?
      It's ok, I'm sure there's a hate group you can slither back to.

  • @EmperorMarcus-Aurelius
    @EmperorMarcus-Aurelius 3 месяца назад

    Why does he keep asking what spells are

    • @anjelica948
      @anjelica948 5 дней назад

      Bc its a running joke in the DnD community that Paladins never use their spell slots to cast real spells, and instead only use them for Smite.

  • @crpgs
    @crpgs Год назад

    Great video once again, super fun and unique content.

  • @dharmeshmistry342
    @dharmeshmistry342 Год назад +2

    The one thing I always struggled with when using Paladin was the fact you just sorta feel like a lightly seasoned martial. You play like a burst martial but it requires you to exchange being able to do any of the neat things that spells allow you to do. I dunno, it just felt like there wasn’t a whole lot of flavor outside of channel divinity and smite, compared to wizard or bards who get all sorts of interesting spellcasting on top of subclass features.

  • @ernestbradford1368
    @ernestbradford1368 10 месяцев назад

    I hope he does oath of devotion next

  • @PsyrenXY
    @PsyrenXY 11 месяцев назад

    Top tier editing, have a sub

  • @DNDNDumbness
    @DNDNDumbness Год назад

    It's fun to stay at the YYYYYMBA

  • @booleanillogical4757
    @booleanillogical4757 Год назад +1

    RUclipsrs try not to act like smites are better than casting spells as a paladin challenge (actually impossible)
    I get its a meme but like... its a meme bc ppl actually do this and then new players dont realize they are not actually supposed to do it and they do it too. Cast spells pallys i beg you. If you use command to make the enemy flee then you get to smite on your oppurtunity attack, and the rogue next you gets to use sneak attack on their attack of oppurtunity, and the enemy doesnt get a turn if it lives. Bless usually adds more damage to a combat than any single smite. Aid is a rly good all day buff and a good way to pick up multiple party members in a bad situation.
    Watching pallys blow all of their spell slots in one fight is wild bc after thay ur like a glorified fighter the rest of the day.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Год назад +2

    Just as long as I'm not a Lore Bard .......😉

  • @bigcdo1498
    @bigcdo1498 Год назад

    I was not disappointed.

  • @T_RipTheHomie
    @T_RipTheHomie 11 месяцев назад

    SMITE!!!

  • @jamiekuryla3940
    @jamiekuryla3940 Год назад

    These are great thanks

  • @frawelto4252
    @frawelto4252 Год назад

    first one

  • @jason7120
    @jason7120 Год назад

    Nice

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Год назад +1

    Remember to always retaliate _first._

  • @matthewschultz7390
    @matthewschultz7390 Год назад

    Fighter/Paladin is one of the best multiclasses in D&D. 10 levels in Champion Fighter and 10 levels in any Paladin subclass gives you 3 basic actions, 3 fighting styles, an improved critical, half your proficiency bonus to strength rolls, healing abilities, smites, action surge and a bunch more. Just so good!

  • @MaxGordon-w2s
    @MaxGordon-w2s Год назад

    Really love all your vids, this has been my new fave RUclips channel! Shame about the advertising you just added, and that’s a dealbreaker for me unfortunately. Thanks, it’s been fun!

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel Год назад

    This doesn't sound like a Paladin to me. How would the Paladin's powers work when not fighting enemies that have anything to do with his vengeance targets? To be embued with the powers of a Paladin you have to be selfless as well as righteous. Vengeance is a selfish act, Strong enough that maybe you could receive power to enact vengeance personally but not enough where you'd be able to use it against a group of bandits or a random hill giant and you can't just say you're enacting vengeance for everybody on everything... that's just having your cake and eating it to necessitate this character. What happens once you complete your vengeance? Then you'll just be a normal person again. I think we're forgetting that a Paladin's power comes from something higher than themselves. This is counter to what a Paladin should be. What possible power would embue somebody to be an archon of vengeance? That be just about everybody who has ever felt wronged by someone. If that were the case their be so many Paladins of Vengeance in multitude they'd be substantially weaker than other paladins.

    • @notsochosenone5669
      @notsochosenone5669 Год назад +4

      Paladins of Tyr is basically something you are looking for - they are almost textbook example of Oath of Vengeance

    • @NotTheWheel
      @NotTheWheel Год назад

      @@notsochosenone5669 Being a Holy Judge Dredd as it seems to read is not the same as Vengeance. It reads more like Absolute Justice.
      Justice is blind and for a group that sees the world in Black and White they hold those scales fervently. "Reveal the truth, punish the guilty, right the wrong, and be always true and just in your actions."
      This power they are bestowed makes sense for their order for there is right, and there is wrong, there is black and there is white and there is no inbetween.

    • @k.m.sparks1190
      @k.m.sparks1190 4 месяца назад

      considering in 5e paladin power is based on strength of your convictions, not a god you dont have to be holy, caring, or righteous to be one. and what happens when they fulfill that conviction(s)? whos to say, maybe they take on another oath, maybe they retire from adventuring, maybe they change classes. i can imagine a depowered paladin becoming an amazingly skilled fighter, or a paladin that's fulfilled/failed their goal being tempted by a warlock patron.

    • @NotTheWheel
      @NotTheWheel 4 месяца назад

      ​@@k.m.sparks1190 I think that's a bit lame for 5e or any setting to do that for Paladin. I obviously concede that there's not much I can do about it but if you'll indulge me.
      I think that strength of conviction for the power a Paladin wields is just absurd. Paladins are beacons in the dark, where the forces of Good may be few they are elite while the forces of Evil are numerous but are of lesser quality.
      A Paladin is bestowed and ordained their power from something higher than themselves and can only use this great power by how devout they are. That's the trade-off for being exceptional.
      If all it takes to become a Paladin particularly one of vengeance surely anyone with martial skill with a vengeance in their heart could evoke the power of a Paladin.
      That's too baser instinct and I find personally again, this being subjective, that Paladins are supposed to be pinnacle examples of what a good and righteous mortal can be. Vengence is more of a seductive influence. Anyway, that's how I feel about it. Again doesn't change what 5e is but whatever, whatever.

    • @k.m.sparks1190
      @k.m.sparks1190 4 месяца назад

      @@NotTheWheel if you don't like this, i have a feeling you really won't like the celestial warlock or oath of conquest paladin.
      Also, morality isn't black and white, even in dnd.
      And it's any conviction. Have an incrediblely strong ideal of devotion or redemption? Ya got powers. A dedication to stopping otherworldly threats? You betcha

  • @zavaro26
    @zavaro26 Год назад +1

    Awesome but why political? Lol

  • @textoffender3410
    @textoffender3410 11 месяцев назад

    I really like oath of vengeance RP wise but i kinda wish the mechanics leaned into it more.