Farmertec JonCutter G3800
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2019
- Did not think UPS delivered on Saturday. But sure enough this little dude arrived Saturday eve. So Sunday morning I Opened the box and checked it out. This is the G3800 JonCutter from Farmertec.
Part of a new line of saws they have released. I will, over the next few months, put this little dude through its paces and see how it holds up. Be sure to subscribe to see how all of the saws I am trying out hold up.
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I like the size/weight of the 3800 for limbing/firewood cutting. I converted mine to rim drive/.325/050 full size chain.
Looks like it has decent power out of the box for a 38cc chainsaw. My favorite all-around chainsaw size is the 45-50cc class chainsaws.
I wouldn't mind seeing the 58cc one 👊
That chain seemed to be binding to me. Almost as if you have a 3/8 chain in a pico guide bar or something. You should be able to spin it around by hand easily. Should spin over a little after you kill the throttle. Thanks for posting. Just subscribed.
Looking good my friend! Appreciate ya stopping by my channel! New subscriber right here! Good looking saw in my opinion! I haven't quite mastered the getting them to send me a saw lol!
It took years to get to the point offers like that started coming in. But hell I was just having fun making videos for my Nieces and Nephews when I started.
@@DIYwithUncleCy that's what it is about! Plugfone's have been very good to our channel it is our first sponsor and I used them before they sent anything! It's pretty cool & humbling!
The 625 and 630 Jonsered's were set up like that? The chain brake was in the cover, we used them when we were in the pine.
A port and muffler mod would do wonders for that saw.
[]From out here looking in the bar didn't seem to be blessed with oil. The chain seemed to be stopping to quickly when you let off the throttle. That should be an easy remedy. Thanks for the videos.
I run Canola oil in my saws now. It is very hard to see until the bar heats up. It was oiling fine.
Looks a lot like the Blue Max professional saw I bought a month ago. It's a 45cc. You can cut a truck load of wood in about 20 minutes.(if you can keep up) Good power. Advertised as having 15% more power then other saws it's size. Was wondering what it was a clone of. Chain was crap, had to tighten it about every 5 cuts. Put on Oregon chisel chain took care of that. Now to see if it lasts. ($150)
Yep Blue max is also a Zenoah clone.
Did it last ?
@@MrJokkii Still running after 4 years.
@@johnscott2849 Great! Maybe i need to try😉
Ok thanks
Cool beans on the Husqvarna ownership owns Zenoah. Wait until the word spreads that buying a clone saw is pretty much buying a Husqvarna.
Zenoah still makes and sells the g3800, g5200, and g2500. The other two don't get rebadged as husqvarna and husqvarna t425 is a g2500. Husqvarna bought zenoah for it stratocharged engine design patents. Husqvarna actually does not have a full line of homeowner and pro saws that they make. Sub 40cc homeowner saws are poulan and their top handle are 1 made in house and other's made by zenoah. The 543xp is made by zenoah and they use the engine intake designs from zenoah.
Hard to tell from a video, but the little saw looked like it did ok for such hard wood. I'm not a big fan of little saws either, as I started out running a Mac 797 at 13, but small saws have their place (crawling under a building and cutting out piling with a 797 is not a lot of fun).
It'd be interesting to see these cheap saws torn down. I've heard some have straight aluminum cylinders, maybe that's why they call for such a rich mix. It may also be because some of the places they're sold use motor oil for mix like we used to before the two stoke blends came out.
Afleetcomand. Or something close to that . Is your guy ,that man has videos up on about all of this companies products. He breaks them down and researches them like a harvard professor. Even gives you the part numbers of the parent saws, oem replacement parts. In places that the clone may be prone to failer , so if you chose to build one from a parts kit( unassembled saw) vs a assembled saw . One could opt for original equipment of the parent saw in these failure prone places. Very competent reserched analysis. He has a ton of these saws . Accually utube AI will probably recommend you to him after you watch a few vids on them.
+Wallie Hart no Redmax stuff yet tho. These saws are gonna be fantastic. I've been tinkering with the Ryobi 37cc versions for some time and no one I know will run their 40cc saws against me. Even their modded ones. My ported saw is turning 14k in the wood and 4stroking
Thanks, site looks interesting, another one to keep up til 2AM.
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Hi. Great videos. I just got my joncutter 3800. Saw is greate but i cant get much oil on the bar. It looks like the oil holes dont match up. How is your saw holding up? This will be my farmertec saw nuber 3. btw
I like the Jon Cutter saws but when I went to buy a backup chain I couldn't match it. Farmer Tech seams to only sell them as a bar and chain pair. Has anyone else found a chain from Oregon or Stihl that fits?
Hey uncle cy...does the 14inch bar of Holzfforma will fit to joncutter G3800?
Thanks...😉
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I contacted hutzl about oil mix on my recent g372 purchase. One document said use 25:1 fuel mix, but inside the owners manual it said use 50:1 mix. Hutzl responded and said use 25:1 for break in, but then switch to 50:1 except in cold weather. Not sure why the cold weather makes any difference. I kind of think they are making it up as they go.
I was relying on info from a petroleum chemist who I know. They were sure that modern 2 cycle oils were more than adequate at 40 and 50 to 1.
+DIY with Uncle Cy I'll have one of these apart within the week. Then we'll know the cylinder plating situation and such. Never know what our Capito- communist friends are up to until you bust the toys apart and put them back together. Hoping the 58cc is based on the quad port 5000, not the 4500
+DIY with Uncle Cy the pictures on the site show saws depicted different than what they are. The 4500 can be pushed out to 5800 but that Walbro wt clone would be pretty maxed out....plus quad ports and rotary tools and late night pots of coffee
They foo you haha 🤣🤣⛩🇨🇳🏴
It's more for "small" wood ...the best thing for 38 cc is that they are lightweight
Be a good little carving saw , or it should be
I'm telling you that you need 12 step program from Chainsaws Anonymous -your
Waaaay out of control Dude !! : ) Hahaha!
I was exactly the same way a new saw every week or two well new to me anyway!
The Zenoah (sp) Chainsaw has been around for quite a while even when I was still
collecting and were said to be pretty darn good saws! Enjoy them My Friend !
Is it a good place to order on amzon
Can you tell me if the bar and chain are compatable with husqvarna. I have a husky 440 and would like to know if I can use the bar and chain from it on this saw. The bigger JonCutter say there parts are interchangable with the equivalent size Husky. Thanks
I will be researching that but it may be a few days. As I said in the video I will include that info in a future video.
Just fired up one of these saws I just got
Works great but by the time we were getting to the second half of the second tank of gas
U hear a little "chirp " every few seconds , when u let it idle ,
Haven't had a chance to look at it ,but has anyone had a problem or what to look for
I am pretty sure its the Clutch on the verge of engaging. Try turning the idle down just a touch. Mine does that too, I just haven't been too concerned about it. But then again I have backup saws for days LOL.
Is this the strato charged version or Walbro at type like the Ryobi 3714?. Redmax invented the strato induction that's why Husky bought them. For modding the non strato are great. The g3800/4000s with muff opened up are nearly impossible to beat at 40cc. Monstrous power when tuned right
Walbro WT
Answered this in the next video. Should have it up soon.
Just be careful in cold weather the plastic can become brittle.
Looks like it's more like a Jonsered's? Which in its own right was one of the best saws on the market?
Yep Jonsred is owned by Husquvarna too.
When I was running them their was a feud going on about witch was a better saw?
@@toolspayless pretty much after the 2055 im pretty sure jred and husq are identical saws
@@billyboots3730 OK
@@billyboots3730 OK
Wow it’s painful to watch what you do to a saw. Man. You have got to let them warm up
Cold seizure on all your saws
Iv been acused of missing a few screws myself . Or having one loose. So y not play the part ? I tell people to never call me late for supper ,makes me mad. Idc otherwise. Bet that saw pumps oil with crank case pressure.
Well since it has a worm drive oil pump that is run off of the sprocket as I pointed out in the video I'm gonna guess it has one of those LOL.
@@DIYwithUncleCy 😁 i took more notice of the oil cap location. It sounds like a smooth runner. I have one simular that sees some action when someone needs to barrow a saw ,i will say without handling that one it looks to be equal if not better built than the (wild thing) lol with its 14" bar.lol who names these things? Although this one is the jon cutter. Lol never thought of making my jon a convertable before . 🤣
Spoil by the bigger saws.
I'll be curious to see if it makes it pass the break in period without breaking. If a home owner is just using it to trim small branches and little stuff AND cares for it and stores it properly, it should be OK. But, it looks cheaply made and fragile like the disposable Poulan saws you see at department stores. I wonder how many of them will get wrecked when a homeowner puts the bar oil in the wrong tank.
Putting the wrong fluids in the wrong tank is the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw their locations too.
Since the manufacturer looks to you for feedback, I would suggest they make the gas and oil caps different colors or add better labeling since this saw is clearly aimed at homeowners who will use it infrequently.
I tinker with the Ryobi 37cc version of this saw. Hutzl isn't playing with junk designs. They're cloning legends. This Redmax is IMO the burliest 38-40 cc saw ever. Tuned right and muffler cleaned out (if these don't have limiter caps, the muff may already be Cat free) no one I'll even try to run with my $50 robin refurbished. Even the non ported ones. Basically get the saw back to how it would be tuned in another country and you're golden. The strato version of this saw is the reason husky felt they had to buy Redmax. BTW Redmax have the most beautiful castings I've ever seen Ina saw. Make the orange Germans look like tin can
Can u use a sthil bar on the g2500 just ordered one
Yes. If it fits the ms250 it will fit the g255
No the top handle g225
G 2500
Will a holzforma bar fit on
Will a holzzforma 12 inch bar work on a g2500 puppy prowler
if that isn't a husky clone then I don't know what is. I think your chain was just too loose and it sounds like it was still trying to calibrate itself in terms of air and fuel
The JonCutters are Zenoah clones. Zenoah is owned by Husqvarna but are not Husqvarna saws though some of the technology in them is the same there are differences. And yes it needs a little tune up.
Sounds a little under powered for a 3/8 chain. Would it not go better with a .325
That could be, but I will wait till it is all broke in to pass that judgement, besides If this becomes a carving saw it will probably get a dime tip bar and 1/4 pitch chain.
It's pico chain
Id like to see it after being tuned,its way to fat ,you can hear it
Got one of these 38 and have problems with thestarter pawls on the flywheel buckling over and going flat
They appear to be very soft and easily straightened with pliers ,but after a dozen pulls go flat again
Tears up the plastic starter cup as well
I just emailed farmtec and was advised ,that if I figured the pawls were too soft , I should order EOM parts from a local
Dealer
Anybody have any idea where I might get these online