I think that this is really amazing application for motorized knobs. I'm even more impressed that they implemented customizable indents and sweep range on knobs! It's great marge of analog control and digital control.
People complain about pot durability, yet these are more durable than traditional pots, and given they're drone based, one could only imagine when a failure happens and suddenly you drop from the sky. Given these knobs will see nothing like their drone counterparts, one can only assume their lifespan will probably exceed the lifespan of the owner/ownership. Thx for the upload and wishing you all the best for Xmas!!!
Nina has the best sound and the best UI of any synth I’ve owned. However, I had two Delias and one Nina that were defective before I got this fourth unit, which is finally functional (though it still has one slightly scratchy pot). Melbourne Instruments' support has been a bit... random as well. The design is completely fine, but there are issues in assembly and QC that need to be ironed out, it seems.
@@StarskyCarr Despite that one slightly scratchy pot, my current unit is wonderful to use, and I wouldn’t worry too much about its reliability, as it arrived in working condition and feels really sturdy. (The previous units came brand new with issues, so the problems were actually unrelated to excessive use, etc.)
This is why, to me, the rated lifetime of the motorized knobs isn't really relevant. If they can fail straight off the shop floor (which all moving parts can) they can fail at any point in their lifetime. It wouldn't bother me as much as a serviceable component, but if these guys own the tech and are the only ones that can sell them or replace them then yeah I have to take that into consideration on what synths to buy in the first place.
@@AudioLomtik Actually, my first two defective Delia units didn’t have issues with the knobs at all. The first unit produced a crackling sound in the audio path, and the second unit had a crooked screen installed, which blocked one of the menu buttons from being pressed. (This is a known issue that was reportedly fixed in the later batches of Delias, according to support.) The third unit (which was a Nina) had all the knobs linked to the wrong parameters, which I couldn’t resolve with a firmware update. I’m pretty sure this was a software-related issue. Technically, anything can eventually fail in a synth. I’ve had synths from companies like Sequential arrive with a faulty knob, but their excellent customer service addressed all concerns quickly. Melbourne Instruments was super helpful when they were available, but they stopped responding about a month ago in the middle of troubleshooting my issues and haven’t yet commented on my recent concern about the scratchy pot. Not sure if they’re on vacation or something...
@@AudioLomtik I don't agree with that (respectfully), as it's not a 'reasonable' expectation. For QC to standardise a part to eg x cycles it has to undergo stringent tests which will ensure immediate failure isn't possible (or a 1 in a million chance). This is standard manufacturing process for millions of products. Aerospace, transport, hi-value/essential engineering - buildings, mining, off-sea structures etc.. all have QC in place to mitigate for immediate failure. It's standard practice, so if this drone tech is rated at 50 million, it's working within the same parameters. Otherwise lifespan ratings would be absolutely meaningless, which they're not - they're an essential part of 100s of supply chains.
Wow… a game changer indeed. Those aren’t your father’s motorized pots, they’re drone motors used as rotary encoders. They should last virtually forever. That plus it makes the detents, resistance, and stops software controlled, so any knob can morph its functionality. Imagine a future firmware update that lets you use one knob for coarse and fine tuning for example. In coarse mode it detents to semitones, in fine mode it’s multi-turn for precision. Great stuff. I’d love to see this technology used in other places, like car radio/infotainment knobs, TV/stereo knobs, etc.
After buying my first synth which was a one knob per function analog mono without presets I've been unimpressed by every synth i've bought since. It's not ideal not being able to save presets though. This solves both problems. I hope they can get the price down on these eventually. It would be great if they license the technology to other manufacturers who can then sell in big volume and get the technology on much more affordable synths.
GREAT REVIEW, it is not gimmick at all, it is game changer for synths with patches as it helps massively to concentrate on music instead of guessing “WHAT WAS THE PARAMETER VALUE BEFORE I EDITED THAT PATCH “, only silly amatoriale would call this feature gimmicky
Wanted one of these from the minute I laid eyes on it! It’s such a cool concept and I love that it shows what’s happening in the patches! So cool. Great for learning sound design too!
Oh yes, very useful, thank you. My first big question when introduced was longevity of those motors, and you answered that perfectly. Now that this technology is (probably) dependable, time will tell, I will be expecting it on all synths in the future. For my sound designs I will ALWAYS set my synth to what I call neutral knob/fader/ setting before beginning design; which is fine unless the synth has layers like a JD-800 Roland. I expect these motorized controls to be on the next Korg and Yamaha arrangers that cost $5000US+, I am furious they charge this kind of money and the controls are NOT motorized for the live play pro who would use these most expensive keyboards. Layered synths sharing the same physical controls would benefit from this tech. Layered synths that have oscillator panning to me are the most useful synths made, and the most rare. Udo, Gaia, Jupiter8 and CS80 are examples of motorized necessity. As digital synths will again replace analog with the rising quality in sound they can produce and equal to analog, full physical control and the technology to support non-menu synths in the future and keep cost down will be the next big tech leap in synths. I imagine 76 and 88 note keyboards with a panel completely covered in knobs/fader/buttons. Like the Roland E-A7 for example. I don't think menus will continue to be the only source for controlling a complex digital synth. Both will prevail, much like the Roland Fantom today, the Fantom is very close to the dream of very few menu pages and lots of physical controlls.
Really useful review - why hasn’t anyone else done such a straightforward demonstration? Beggars belief really. Thanks again as always and Merry Christmas in 2024 🎄🎄😊👍
I would add another feature that's should have been implemented along time ago. E-ink labels. Now you solved the multi-engine with different parameters problem too (you could use smal OLEDS too be better in dark environments actually)..
It's a really cool and nice sounding synth. Love the moving pots, they really do adds to the practicality and I'm sure they will hold up as good as any regular pots. About the price - not a whole lot for what you are getting. I'm an IT Security Consultant I charge a bit over €100 per hour - and for that I won't leave even a single motorized pot after I leave...
Great vid... thanks for creating and uploading! What I like best and most about motorized faders? It's the DECADENCE of putting in so much technology for doing such a minor task, that is, changing the values of a potentiometer... That's just what it is... Marvellous, simply marvellous... Mit freundlichen Gruessen to Rube-Goldberg...
Thanks… I remember thinking electric windows in cars were a pure decadent luxury 😂 and remote controls on TV… who can’t be arsed to get up and change the channel…. Turns out it’s me! 🕺🏼🤦♂️😂
The motorised knobs are a brilliant idea, and appear to have been implemented really well. But with all the interest in the new tech, people have been skipping over the other important thing, the sound. And from the demos I’ve heard, it sounds beautiful. But I suspect that’s another video 😀
@@samuelyang1140 It would be crazy for them to not encourage this as it would certainly drive sales! Heck.. mount them in an LCD panel so the panel could also mimic the synth its replicating or controlling!
Motorized Pots exist for a long time. That in itself is not special. What is indeed special, is the fact that so far motorized post have been huge! With a motor sticking out their back. But this synth obviously has solved that problem. If they are clever then they OEM those pots to other synth makers ❤
I own a Nina pretty much since it came out and didn't encounter any problems so far. I'm basically addicted to VSTs, so I' m not a heavy user but considering the available UIs on the hardware market, Nina offers by far the best solution. Imho. So I totally agree with what you say in your video. The only thing that I would wish for, is a more versatile filter section. Otherwise I find it to be the perfect analogue poly synth for my needs.
I bought an LG front load combo/dryer washing machine in 2006, it advertised direct drive brushless motor. Can spin at 1200 rpm. They put a 10 yr warranty on the motor. it still works perfectly to this day, except I have repaired the door switch price and it might need a new outlet / drain pump soon. Electric motors can last a really, really long time. These are slightly turning, not spinning at high RPM for hours on end. Imagine how long an electric drill can last.Normally these had brushes which could wear, modern motors are largely brushless. Even electric cars, everyone is concerned about the batteries not lasting, not the motors.
Both Alps and Bourne has motorized potentiometers, so I don't know what they needed to develop? Maybe those potentiometers doesn't have the possibility to sense the force, so you can't both have them motorized and manual. Or they are too slow. Just widely guessing here.
Nice. You answered most of the questions, however I'll point out that the Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) does not define lifetime - you need to consider the number of components/complexity.... IE the time before one of the pots fails will be sooner. Not that I'm saying it will be an issue.
Yeah I was trying to get across that they’re not cheap pots that are likely to die in a year or so. Any rating will have tolerances, and if I’d gone with a 1000 twists a day we’d have got to 120 years! A more realistic 100 turns twice a week and we’re looking at Lord of the Rings timescales 🧙♂️I was just putting things into perspective.
I think knob-per-function synths either need motorised knobs, or the LED encoder rings pioneered properly in a synth by Nord Lead 3 back in the day, or a combination of both. These are the only possible methods to do the UI properly IMO.
They've gotta be stepper motors, just being used as a potentiometers. Stepper motors have been around for decades. Now I see them being used, I'm actually quite surprised they have been utilized befor. Good stuff starsky.
They’re different motor types. Here’s a quick definition I found: “Stepper motors are highly precise motors that operate in discrete, highly reliable steps, and DC motors are flexibly controlled by voltage and current, and convert electrical energy into mechanical motion.”
Not to say anything about these pots but mechanical parts are always a weak point of any system. From your door’s hinges to the good ol’ HDD, mechanical parts are more often than not the first ones to fail.
I've got mechanical parts on all my vintage synths, and actually it's the electronics that goes first. Capacitors, batteries, power supplies, resistors, and chips... all before the pots.
@ fair enough, I repaired a lot of potmeters of vintage gear. Thing is, I can open them up and fix them. As said before I don’t know about this specific pots, we’ll see in a decade how they’re holding up.
I almost don't care what it sounds like. I love it for the theatre it provides. But yes, the fact it sounds great too makes it undeniably awesome. I grew up listening to Howard Jones and Depeche Mode, and although I'm actually a drummer (don't hate me) I have a stack of keyboards and modules that I use to write music with. I am addicted to "kit". Its tactility inspires me to play and experiment. However... cost. You make a good case for its value but it's out of my range.
@@RobertFisher1969this takes the LEDs to another level. Pots feel better than encoders a lot of the time - you can feel the end limits etc. this can do either. It’s so cool.
@@olafsigursonsreally? If one way of showing where a parameter is set is a gimmick why isn’t the other? Nothing weird - just 2 ways of doing the same thing? LEDs cost more than not, so do motors? It’s exactly the same, except one has haptic feedback as well 🤷♂️
I don't care about the all star game, never cared about it don't know why anyone does. There are no good takes about it, it's a law of nature. Just let it happen who cares.
I had a mc 808 what pos it had motorized sliders and dang it sucked the sound was trash and literally the beginning of the end for Roland every single thing they made after was trash 🗑️ as a british man do u remember Roland being from England? And sold to a Japanese company in the 80s after the 909 fail ido but Alex ball says it was always from Japan but then why did Roland make synths in Italy in the early 80s and even the chips used in the Jupiter 8 were made in Europe so it just doesn’t make sense
@@Tripwelleverday If you cannot understand why companies use branding to create a sense of familiarity, or transfer manufacturing to jurisdictions which allow them to sell if they produce there, or the fact that Roland are a 100% Japanese company then you should stick to tripping. A 30 second scan of Roland's Wikipedia entry would prevent you from idiotizing yourself in front of the community.
I think that this is really amazing application for motorized knobs. I'm even more impressed that they implemented customizable indents and sweep range on knobs! It's great marge of analog control and digital control.
People complain about pot durability, yet these are more durable than traditional pots, and given they're drone based, one could only imagine when a failure happens and suddenly you drop from the sky.
Given these knobs will see nothing like their drone counterparts, one can only assume their lifespan will probably exceed the lifespan of the owner/ownership.
Thx for the upload and wishing you all the best for Xmas!!!
Nina has the best sound and the best UI of any synth I’ve owned. However, I had two Delias and one Nina that were defective before I got this fourth unit, which is finally functional (though it still has one slightly scratchy pot). Melbourne Instruments' support has been a bit... random as well. The design is completely fine, but there are issues in assembly and QC that need to be ironed out, it seems.
Thats a shame, I can only comment on what I'm using - which is a well hammered demo unit tbh.
@@StarskyCarr Despite that one slightly scratchy pot, my current unit is wonderful to use, and I wouldn’t worry too much about its reliability, as it arrived in working condition and feels really sturdy. (The previous units came brand new with issues, so the problems were actually unrelated to excessive use, etc.)
This is why, to me, the rated lifetime of the motorized knobs isn't really relevant. If they can fail straight off the shop floor (which all moving parts can) they can fail at any point in their lifetime. It wouldn't bother me as much as a serviceable component, but if these guys own the tech and are the only ones that can sell them or replace them then yeah I have to take that into consideration on what synths to buy in the first place.
@@AudioLomtik Actually, my first two defective Delia units didn’t have issues with the knobs at all. The first unit produced a crackling sound in the audio path, and the second unit had a crooked screen installed, which blocked one of the menu buttons from being pressed. (This is a known issue that was reportedly fixed in the later batches of Delias, according to support.) The third unit (which was a Nina) had all the knobs linked to the wrong parameters, which I couldn’t resolve with a firmware update. I’m pretty sure this was a software-related issue.
Technically, anything can eventually fail in a synth. I’ve had synths from companies like Sequential arrive with a faulty knob, but their excellent customer service addressed all concerns quickly. Melbourne Instruments was super helpful when they were available, but they stopped responding about a month ago in the middle of troubleshooting my issues and haven’t yet commented on my recent concern about the scratchy pot. Not sure if they’re on vacation or something...
@@AudioLomtik I don't agree with that (respectfully), as it's not a 'reasonable' expectation. For QC to standardise a part to eg x cycles it has to undergo stringent tests which will ensure immediate failure isn't possible (or a 1 in a million chance). This is standard manufacturing process for millions of products. Aerospace, transport, hi-value/essential engineering - buildings, mining, off-sea structures etc.. all have QC in place to mitigate for immediate failure. It's standard practice, so if this drone tech is rated at 50 million, it's working within the same parameters. Otherwise lifespan ratings would be absolutely meaningless, which they're not - they're an essential part of 100s of supply chains.
Wow… a game changer indeed. Those aren’t your father’s motorized pots, they’re drone motors used as rotary encoders. They should last virtually forever. That plus it makes the detents, resistance, and stops software controlled, so any knob can morph its functionality. Imagine a future firmware update that lets you use one knob for coarse and fine tuning for example. In coarse mode it detents to semitones, in fine mode it’s multi-turn for precision. Great stuff. I’d love to see this technology used in other places, like car radio/infotainment knobs, TV/stereo knobs, etc.
Great video! I think these synths deserve more props than they've been getting. Absolutely amazing to use, quality build, and great sound.
After buying my first synth which was a one knob per function analog mono without presets I've been unimpressed by every synth i've bought since. It's not ideal not being able to save presets though. This solves both problems. I hope they can get the price down on these eventually. It would be great if they license the technology to other manufacturers who can then sell in big volume and get the technology on much more affordable synths.
@@MadelnMachines delia is a lot cheaper already
@ Yeah it’s not too bad
@@MadelnMachines i guess there may be a desktop version of delia eventually:)
@@neuronist That could be very tempting
GREAT REVIEW, it is not gimmick at all, it is game changer for synths with patches as it helps massively to concentrate on music instead of guessing “WHAT WAS THE PARAMETER VALUE BEFORE I EDITED THAT PATCH “, only silly amatoriale would call this feature gimmicky
I had to look up amatoriale before I agreed ;)
Wanted one of these from the minute I laid eyes on it! It’s such a cool concept and I love that it shows what’s happening in the patches! So cool. Great for learning sound design too!
5:36 Ooft… Sorcery. I need one.
Ok, I’m not minted enough for this bracket but it’s not disgustingly priced at all. Again, so cool and such an awesome job from them.
Would have been nice to hear some sounds of it 😊
Never had any problems with my Nina, sounds great, prefer it over the PB12, one of the best synths on the market.
The amazing sound of the synth engine is enough, but when you add the motorized knob functions.... Gotta hear more!
Oh yes, very useful, thank you. My first big question when introduced was longevity of those motors, and you answered that perfectly. Now that this technology is (probably) dependable, time will tell, I will be expecting it on all synths in the future. For my sound designs I will ALWAYS set my synth to what I call neutral knob/fader/ setting before beginning design; which is fine unless the synth has layers like a JD-800 Roland. I expect these motorized controls to be on the next Korg and Yamaha arrangers that cost $5000US+, I am furious they charge this kind of money and the controls are NOT motorized for the live play pro who would use these most expensive keyboards. Layered synths sharing the same physical controls would benefit from this tech. Layered synths that have oscillator panning to me are the most useful synths made, and the most rare. Udo, Gaia, Jupiter8 and CS80 are examples of motorized necessity.
As digital synths will again replace analog with the rising quality in sound they can produce and equal to analog, full physical control and the technology to support non-menu synths in the future and keep cost down will be the next big tech leap in synths. I imagine 76 and 88 note keyboards with a panel completely covered in knobs/fader/buttons. Like the Roland E-A7 for example. I don't think menus will continue to be the only source for controlling a complex digital synth. Both will prevail, much like the Roland Fantom today, the Fantom is very close to the dream of very few menu pages and lots of physical controlls.
Really useful review - why hasn’t anyone else done such a straightforward demonstration? Beggars belief really. Thanks again as always and Merry Christmas in 2024 🎄🎄😊👍
I would add another feature that's should have been implemented along time ago. E-ink labels. Now you solved the multi-engine with different parameters problem too (you could use smal OLEDS too be better in dark environments actually)..
Wow didn't see this coming. Love Nina and wait to get the green keycaps.
It's a really cool and nice sounding synth. Love the moving pots, they really do adds to the practicality and I'm sure they will hold up as good as any regular pots. About the price - not a whole lot for what you are getting. I'm an IT Security Consultant I charge a bit over €100 per hour - and for that I won't leave even a single motorized pot after I leave...
I love devices that have heptatic feedback. I like to feel the control changes right smack in my liver.
Not shabby, Starsky. In doing your own demonstration of Nina here, you created your own Star Wars Christmas special.
Happy Life Day, y’ mutha wookies!! 😀
Great vid... thanks for creating and uploading! What I like best and most about motorized faders? It's the DECADENCE of putting in so much technology for doing such a minor task, that is, changing the values of a potentiometer... That's just what it is... Marvellous, simply marvellous... Mit freundlichen Gruessen to Rube-Goldberg...
Thanks… I remember thinking electric windows in cars were a pure decadent luxury 😂 and remote controls on TV… who can’t be arsed to get up and change the channel…. Turns out it’s me! 🕺🏼🤦♂️😂
The motorised knobs are a brilliant idea, and appear to have been implemented really well. But with all the interest in the new tech, people have been skipping over the other important thing, the sound. And from the demos I’ve heard, it sounds beautiful. But I suspect that’s another video 😀
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Hopefully they do a midi Controller with that technology one day! Would be Sick AF !
Seems like a no-brainer for someone/anyone to code something that maps your favorite synth or vst to this interface!
I heard something like that is coming from them in late Jan 2025
@@samuelyang1140 It would be crazy for them to not encourage this as it would certainly drive sales! Heck.. mount them in an LCD panel so the panel could also mimic the synth its replicating or controlling!
I'm hoping for-eventually-a MIDI 2 controller using the Melbourne knobs.
That's what I'm hoping for. In the meantime I'm not buying any new (or used) gear.
Motorized Pots exist for a long time. That in itself is not special. What is indeed special, is the fact that so far motorized post have been huge! With a motor sticking out their back. But this synth obviously has solved that problem. If they are clever then they OEM those pots to other synth makers ❤
I own a Nina pretty much since it came out and didn't encounter any problems so far. I'm basically addicted to VSTs, so I' m not a heavy user but considering the available UIs on the hardware market, Nina offers by far the best solution. Imho.
So I totally agree with what you say in your video.
The only thing that I would wish for, is a more versatile filter section. Otherwise I find it to be the perfect analogue poly synth for my needs.
I bought an LG front load combo/dryer washing machine in 2006, it advertised direct drive brushless motor. Can spin at 1200 rpm. They put a 10 yr warranty on the motor. it still works perfectly to this day, except I have repaired the door switch price and it might need a new outlet / drain pump soon. Electric motors can last a really, really long time. These are slightly turning, not spinning at high RPM for hours on end. Imagine how long an electric drill can last.Normally these had brushes which could wear, modern motors are largely brushless. Even electric cars, everyone is concerned about the batteries not lasting, not the motors.
Wow -- to immediately see what each preset is doing is a huge leap. I can see all premium (over £2k) synths having motorised pots in a few years.
Game changer for a hardware synths with presets. What you see is what you get (hear).
Very balanced commentary, Scouser (from an Aussie Geordie).
Both Alps and Bourne has motorized potentiometers, so I don't know what they needed to develop? Maybe those potentiometers doesn't have the possibility to sense the force, so you can't both have them motorized and manual. Or they are too slow. Just widely guessing here.
Those drums in the intro sounded so nice
Love this! going to have get one
Love Nina. Best analog synth after Jupiter 8.
Nice. You answered most of the questions, however I'll point out that the Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) does not define lifetime - you need to consider the number of components/complexity.... IE the time before one of the pots fails will be sooner. Not that I'm saying it will be an issue.
Yeah I was trying to get across that they’re not cheap pots that are likely to die in a year or so. Any rating will have tolerances, and if I’d gone with a 1000 twists a day we’d have got to 120 years! A more realistic 100 turns twice a week and we’re looking at Lord of the Rings timescales 🧙♂️I was just putting things into perspective.
I think knob-per-function synths either need motorised knobs, or the LED encoder rings pioneered properly in a synth by Nord Lead 3 back in the day, or a combination of both. These are the only possible methods to do the UI properly IMO.
Thanks
Absolutely no opportunities for double entendres here.
Haha, I know. I promised myself I wouldn’t go down there… it was hard but I pulled it off.
6:18 or so there are some... interesting word choices.
@@StarskyCarr 😝
I don't have a lot of GAS, but I would love a Nina.
i had a nord lead 3 which i bought and sold and bought and sold damn
Try a Nord Lead 3.. that unit has some nice knobs too
I know, it's a shame they discontinued them. I did look at them once but could afford it at the time.
I’ll never sell mine
you only need them on synths with presets ;)
I prefer led endless encoders, Nord lead 3, Modular G2,…
They should make a midi controller.
They'll make a generic 16 pot controller and make a fortune.
Why dont we have motorized pots on everything? Regular Price: € 4.299,00, thats why :(
Ah another car priced synth… yess as h I want one…. Like I wanted a car when I was 15. Never going to happen.
They've gotta be stepper motors, just being used as a potentiometers. Stepper motors have been around for decades. Now I see them being used, I'm actually quite surprised they have been utilized befor. Good stuff starsky.
They’re different motor types. Here’s a quick definition I found: “Stepper motors are highly precise motors that operate in discrete, highly reliable steps, and DC motors are flexibly controlled by voltage and current, and convert electrical energy into mechanical motion.”
they're not steppers, they're coreless drone cans, just modified design which has been patented for their intended usage.
they just need to licence it out to other synth manufactures .....
Not to say anything about these pots but mechanical parts are always a weak point of any system. From your door’s hinges to the good ol’ HDD, mechanical parts are more often than not the first ones to fail.
I've got mechanical parts on all my vintage synths, and actually it's the electronics that goes first. Capacitors, batteries, power supplies, resistors, and chips... all before the pots.
@ fair enough, I repaired a lot of potmeters of vintage gear. Thing is, I can open them up and fix them. As said before I don’t know about this specific pots, we’ll see in a decade how they’re holding up.
Come on Behringer you know what to do
😂
Yeah they know how to rip everybody off
@@supercompooper you mean Moog? with gear without On/Off Switches? Or Sequential? With Windows Mainboards inside their Synths? these guys?
@ Everyone apart from their customers 😉
My love is Uli
I almost don't care what it sounds like. I love it for the theatre it provides. But yes, the fact it sounds great too makes it undeniably awesome.
I grew up listening to Howard Jones and Depeche Mode, and although I'm actually a drummer (don't hate me) I have a stack of keyboards and modules that I use to write music with. I am addicted to "kit". Its tactility inspires me to play and experiment.
However... cost. You make a good case for its value but it's out of my range.
It's got 4 inputs?! Whats going on there?!
they are audio or CV, so you can have 2 CV control inputs from modular for example.
@@StarskyCarr ok thanks
lol $5k.... nope
Gimmick: I use CCs to change VST host parameters arbitrarily. Zero rotation rate. Motors have rotation rates.
But thats VSTs, not hardware. Different paradigms.
Real men don't need a motorised knob.
Real men need as many motors as possible.
expensive gimmick. Use led rings like the BCR2000 did 25 years ago. Which was the best MIDI controller ever made.
Following that train of thought, the LED rings could also be considered a gimmick.
While I'd love to see LED rings used more, for me the haptic capabilities of the Melbourne knobs make them a worthwhile upgrade.
@@RobertFisher1969this takes the LEDs to another level. Pots feel better than encoders a lot of the time - you can feel the end limits etc. this can do either. It’s so cool.
@@StarskyCarr That's one weird way to see it, but that's your money. If you have enough to burn it on stuff that gonna break, good for you!
@@olafsigursonsreally? If one way of showing where a parameter is set is a gimmick why isn’t the other? Nothing weird - just 2 ways of doing the same thing? LEDs cost more than not, so do motors? It’s exactly the same, except one has haptic feedback as well 🤷♂️
...HAHAHAHAHA....FFS....Star Wars....LOL!!
I don't care about the all star game, never cared about it don't know why anyone does. There are no good takes about it, it's a law of nature. Just let it happen who cares.
Utterly pointless.
Self-fulfilling comment. 🙃
I had a mc 808 what pos it had motorized sliders and dang it sucked the sound was trash and literally the beginning of the end for Roland every single thing they made after was trash 🗑️ as a british man do u remember Roland being from England? And sold to a Japanese company in the 80s after the 909 fail ido but Alex ball says it was always from Japan but then why did Roland make synths in Italy in the early 80s and even the chips used in the Jupiter 8 were made in Europe so it just doesn’t make sense
?? From England? It was founded in Osaka. Where they manufacture their products is irrelevant as to their origins.
Trip a little TOO well, maybe? 🤔
@@bengsynthmusic mandela effect
@@kierenmoore3236 why did a Japanese company name themselves Roland and manufacture the 808 and other chips in Italy
@@Tripwelleverday If you cannot understand why companies use branding to create a sense of familiarity, or transfer manufacturing to jurisdictions which allow them to sell if they produce there, or the fact that Roland are a 100% Japanese company then you should stick to tripping. A 30 second scan of Roland's Wikipedia entry would prevent you from idiotizing yourself in front of the community.