I used to work as a PCO in the court system, I didn’t know one officer male or female who would have reported a SA or DV assault to the police. Out of sheer embarrassment or just knowing the court experience/outcome.
@@SuperBobbster - It is, you just don't look deep enough. it is a whole "culture" inside working place. In this case the Police. My view? "That is just too simplistic point of view missing a lot of other points. It is just full of older generation guys, who still think that something that was OK 20 years ago, it is OK now (expecially concidering behavious towards women). And they are stuck within their roles, and probably going to stay there until they retire. And the new collegues are only learning from that that kind of backwater mentality, and daily behaviour. Also, lets not kid ourselves. Most of those police officers, are not the brightest guys in the world. A lot has average university, with some averege (useless - in a real life - degrees). A lot also couldn't find the job with those kind of degrees, and at the end all they could do is join the police. In a way, a lot of them would be a complete failure outside police (mentally too), and most likely completely unemployable due to education. Note: and you would be shocked, that according to the report from March, there is currently over 900 police officers with open court cases against them, over 1000 in fact - related only to sexual misconduct and also... domestic abuse. Only those 2 criteria. Those are results of some deeper, much more serious issues, mental ones included, and very often connected with the average education." And now, just imagine working there as a young woman. And if you think the justice system is fair in UK? That is another can of worms to be opened. As long as you can afford the lawyer (700-1000 per day, per court visit, plus additional expenses and some can charde even 50-70 pounds per email) or a barister (anything between 3-5K per day, per court visit) - you most likely will be OK. Just how many of those young ladies can afford it? To go against the Police in the court?
It is also applicable other way around: the report is related to MET, but why do you assume something like this is not happening everywhere else, within the police force? Most like it is, just not at the same level.
@undertaker747 - no it won't. If you think this will happen, you don't know much about what is going on in public sector (not just police but also health service and education). Money talks, and all of that is connected with politics - at the top level. So no, MET won't be shut down.
It sounded at one point that she was saying it's hard to prove that the aleged victim has been raped so we need to do more to put men accused of rape in jail! In other words, believe all women and all men accused of rape are automatically guilty of rape. Great police work!
They have to wait until they leave for fear of reprisals and bullying and who policies the police? Conveniently themselves. If she spoke up while still working there it would surely have been brushed under the carpet.
Where were you when your best friend saville was going around doing what he was doing. You’re ready to give it the large but you go and train as an officer and then take action. We await the update.
@@CEO786 saville was no friend in the working classes eye's?, he might have been to the chelsea and Kensington yuppie types of the upper echelons of society even to those in the middleclass spectrum, but to average blue colour workers he was a slimey filthy idiot and most could see that something wasnt quite right with him, just like JR from the pistols.... Trouble is, he was that well connected with the upper class circles, and the powers that be, to speak out and raise concern could and probably would have cost you your job, sackfulls of dosh in legal fee's and being cancelled before cancel culture was even a recognised thing.... Using him to gain some leverage in a argument is very weak and verging in the pathetic....
Worked with some great girls in my time in the Service and they where great. This report makes me very sad but I could see it going downhill 30yrs ago when I retired.
@nevillewalker6299 - actually it is much, much worse now. If you would read a full report from beginning of this year (Louise Casey)... you would just cry. There are some serious number out there, with a lot of data that cannot be ignored. And yet, it is ignored almost every year - by the police themselves.
Wayne Couzens convicted and jailed 2021, David Carrick convicted and jailed 2022, Adam Provan convicted and jailed 2023. All Females ask, when will this ever end?
@seanmcgarrigan3942 - nothing to do with Torry as such. That is just too simplistic point of view missing a lot of other points. It is just full of older generation guys, who still think that something that was OK 20 years ago, it is OK now (expecially concidering behavious towards women). And they are stuck within their roles, and probably going to stay there until they retire. And the new collegues are only learning from that that kind of backwater mentality, and daily behaviour. Also, lets not kid ourselves. Most of those police officers, are not the brightest guys in the world. A lot has average university, with some averege (useless - in a real life - degrees). A lot also couldn't find the job with those kind of degrees, and at the end all they could do is join the police. In a way, a lot of them would be a complete failure outside police (mentally too), and most likely completely unemployable due to education. Note: and you would be shocked, that according to the report from March, there is currently over 800 police officers with open court cases against them, over 1000 in fact - related only to sexual misconduct and also... domestic abuse. Only those 2 criteria. That's not just... "Torry", those are results of some deeper, much more serious issues, mental ones included, and very often connected with the average education. Edit: Spalling and grammar
Yup. It was irrevocably destroyed by May and Osborne/Cameron. However - I read with interest the comments made by a former colleague about this person on her Twitter account. He is someone who’s opinion I trust. Huge integrity. Very capable. Honest. Intelligent. He worked with her and said she was one of the poorest calibre officers he’d ever worked near. He detailed clearly a time when she’d provably lied about her lateness and detailed a string of incompetence. I would be very very cautious about believing the version of events given. They were actually being managed out of the police they were so poor during their probation according to the the Detective Sergeant commenting. I know him to be very open minded and fair. This former officer must have been very poor for him to challenge her ‘truth’
@mack_75. Such shallow response. How about simply acknowledge that there is an issue with the police. All you have to do is to read Casey report (original one, not the newspaper version - the data is there and is... shocking, and it is also shocking how public opionon is completely different than 5-10+ years ago; in fact the opinion about police is lower as it can be, comparing to the last 20+ years), or even internal yearly reports from the MET police - one of those anonymous reviews that sometimes are done at the public sector places, where employees have to fill the questionnaire). Long story short: Currently there is 900 police officers charged with sexual abuse and domestic ones - nothing more just those 2 categories, and a lot more regarding discrimination, homophobic behaviour and simply... lack of education (as most of them are just old school, not the brightest bunch anyway and all they could do is join the police at some point, old mentality and they don't want to change - all they want to do is to wait for the retirement). And almost 30% of women, police officers reported abuse from the so called colleagues... with a low level, few precent reporting sexual one. No matter how you want to spin it... that is not normal, for any organization. In fact in most of the places, private one or public one around London - a lot of them would be sacked on the spot (but not in the police). Edit: grammar & spelling here and there
Also needlessly slaughtered dogs that had caused no injury, and were both on lead, posing no risk when confronted by idiotic police officers; devoid of humanity or common sense. Human excrement with guns and a danger to us all.
I ave heard the exact same from a ex met officer just the other day, so sad what another officer has had to go through. If you haven’t RUclips millions and Marshall shot by the met police this was there actions on the seventh of may. Poor dogs shot with guns brutally and there was no need. What does met do try cover it up nearly one and a half million signed petition there is also a face book group if you want the name it’s millions and Marshall shot dead by the met police at lime house London
It's propaganda when you only talk about sexism and racism, and say nothing about how the police serve the state instead of the law, meaning we have a police state.
@mk0ee7vx - not just many years, 15-20+. But the main issue is that this is just getting worse, according to various reports. Before, long ago you could say the the police was racist in some cases, easily target some of the minorities. Now? You have sexism and misogyny, homofobia and almost completed disreagard for women police officers, their own colleagues - all on top of racism (did you know that according to that Louise Casey report, almost 30% of women police officers, reported abuse, with small precentage reporting sexual abuse? In their own workplace, from colleagues)? That is not normal in any organization, no matter how some people want to spin it.
I wasn’t a Freemason and only experienced that situation back in 1998 . I challenged it and the corruption of the situation was sorted out . Don’t think every cop is a Freemason in every force . That’s a myth .
Spoken like somebody who was never in that situation. In education sector? Yeah, definitely possible, and issues like that are dealt with very quickly (UCL, UAL, King's College and so on). Most people would be sacked very quickly after the internal investigation is done. I've seen that happened in couple of cases. In NHS? The same. Guys like that, who are abusing toward female coworkers - would be sacked very quickly, after a quick internal investigation. Brutal one too. And this is not tolerated at all. In police force? Not possible. Not gonna happen. Louise Casey internal report is just a proof of it. In a lot of cases, those guys can work there for ages...
And? If you join public service as a women you should expect this! Yes it's not right but that's how it works sorry! The British Army is exactly the same 🤷
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I used to work as a PCO in the court system, I didn’t know one officer male or female who would have reported a SA or DV assault to the police. Out of sheer embarrassment or just knowing the court experience/outcome.
That's not the fault of the Police though is it
@@SuperBobbster - It is, you just don't look deep enough. it is a whole "culture" inside working place. In this case the Police.
My view?
"That is just too simplistic point of view missing a lot of other points.
It is just full of older generation guys, who still think that something that was OK 20 years ago, it is OK now (expecially concidering behavious towards women). And they are stuck within their roles, and probably going to stay there until they retire. And the new collegues are only learning from that that kind of backwater mentality, and daily behaviour.
Also, lets not kid ourselves. Most of those police officers, are not the brightest guys in the world. A lot has average university, with some averege (useless - in a real life - degrees). A lot also couldn't find the job with those kind of degrees, and at the end all they could do is join the police. In a way, a lot of them would be a complete failure outside police (mentally too), and most likely completely unemployable due to education.
Note: and you would be shocked, that according to the report from March, there is currently over 900 police officers with open court cases against them, over 1000 in fact - related only to sexual misconduct and also... domestic abuse. Only those 2 criteria. Those are results of some deeper, much more serious issues, mental ones included, and very often connected with the average education."
And now, just imagine working there as a young woman.
And if you think the justice system is fair in UK? That is another can of worms to be opened. As long as you can afford the lawyer (700-1000 per day, per court visit, plus additional expenses and some can charde even 50-70 pounds per email) or a barister (anything between 3-5K per day, per court visit) - you most likely will be OK. Just how many of those young ladies can afford it? To go against the Police in the court?
Police… it’s not just the MET.
It is also applicable other way around: the report is related to MET, but why do you assume something like this is not happening everywhere else, within the police force?
Most like it is, just not at the same level.
The MET will be shut down.
Should be.
Betting it won't.
Too many irons in that fire.
@undertaker747 - no it won't.
If you think this will happen, you don't know much about what is going on in public sector (not just police but also health service and education).
Money talks, and all of that is connected with politics - at the top level. So no, MET won't be shut down.
Please support by reading her book! ‘No Comment: What I Wish I Knew About Becoming A Detective
It's as if she's only saying these things to make money off her book
It does not surprise me tbh...
It sounded at one point that she was saying it's hard to prove that the aleged victim has been raped so we need to do more to put men accused of rape in jail! In other words, believe all women and all men accused of rape are automatically guilty of rape. Great police work!
NO ROOM for Any Bullies!!!
No room for weak all talk no walk women too
She seems very sincere
"Seems" is not the same as "is". Another individual that waits until they leave an organisation before denigrating it.
@@davidbarr9343 I mean, the alternative is to slam it while you still work there, which clearly wouldn't end well would it you pleb
They have to wait until they leave for fear of reprisals and bullying and who policies the police? Conveniently themselves. If she spoke up while still working there it would surely have been brushed under the carpet.
Sounds like she's got a book to sell
Read her book: No Comment: what I wish I knew about becoming a detective.
Absolutely brilliant and totally eye opening. Would also highly recommend.
Definitely worth a read - a fascinating insight into the MET
No Comment - worth the read !
An eye opening very interesting read - would highly recommend
Sounds interesting! I'll definitely check out that book. Thanks!
Evil sexism
Now they want to speak out. Not when all of those young girls were getting assaulted by grooming gangs
Where were you when your best friend saville was going around doing what he was doing. You’re ready to give it the large but you go and train as an officer and then take action. We await the update.
@@CEO786 saville was no friend in the working classes eye's?, he might have been to the chelsea and Kensington yuppie types of the upper echelons of society even to those in the middleclass spectrum, but to average blue colour workers he was a slimey filthy idiot and most could see that something wasnt quite right with him, just like JR from the pistols.... Trouble is, he was that well connected with the upper class circles, and the powers that be, to speak out and raise concern could and probably would have cost you your job, sackfulls of dosh in legal fee's and being cancelled before cancel culture was even a recognised thing.... Using him to gain some leverage in a argument is very weak and verging in the pathetic....
😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉❤what’s Going Around Cum Around.! How u abuse your power in the workplace upon the citizens and real victims ❤❤❤
Worked with some great girls in my time in the Service and they where great. This report makes me very sad but I could see it going downhill 30yrs ago when I retired.
@nevillewalker6299 - actually it is much, much worse now. If you would read a full report from beginning of this year (Louise Casey)... you would just cry. There are some serious number out there, with a lot of data that cannot be ignored. And yet, it is ignored almost every year - by the police themselves.
Wayne Couzens convicted and jailed 2021, David Carrick convicted and jailed 2022, Adam Provan convicted and jailed 2023. All Females ask, when will this ever end?
The problem starts with the MET being the Tory police ,the rot starts from the top.
@seanmcgarrigan3942 - nothing to do with Torry as such. That is just too simplistic point of view missing a lot of other points.
It is just full of older generation guys, who still think that something that was OK 20 years ago, it is OK now (expecially concidering behavious towards women). And they are stuck within their roles, and probably going to stay there until they retire. And the new collegues are only learning from that that kind of backwater mentality, and daily behaviour.
Also, lets not kid ourselves. Most of those police officers, are not the brightest guys in the world. A lot has average university, with some averege (useless - in a real life - degrees). A lot also couldn't find the job with those kind of degrees, and at the end all they could do is join the police. In a way, a lot of them would be a complete failure outside police (mentally too), and most likely completely unemployable due to education.
Note: and you would be shocked, that according to the report from March, there is currently over 800 police officers with open court cases against them, over 1000 in fact - related only to sexual misconduct and also... domestic abuse. Only those 2 criteria. That's not just... "Torry", those are results of some deeper, much more serious issues, mental ones included, and very often connected with the average education.
Edit: Spalling and grammar
Yup. It was irrevocably destroyed by May and Osborne/Cameron.
However - I read with interest the comments made by a former colleague about this person on her Twitter account.
He is someone who’s opinion I trust. Huge integrity. Very capable. Honest. Intelligent. He worked with her and said she was one of the poorest calibre officers he’d ever worked near. He detailed clearly a time when she’d provably lied about her lateness and detailed a string of incompetence.
I would be very very cautious about believing the version of events given. They were actually being managed out of the police they were so poor during their probation according to the the Detective Sergeant commenting.
I know him to be very open minded and fair. This former officer must have been very poor for him to challenge her ‘truth’
@mack_75. Such shallow response.
How about simply acknowledge that there is an issue with the police.
All you have to do is to read Casey report (original one, not the newspaper version - the data is there and is... shocking, and it is also shocking how public opionon is completely different than 5-10+ years ago; in fact the opinion about police is lower as it can be, comparing to the last 20+ years), or even internal yearly reports from the MET police - one of those anonymous reviews that sometimes are done at the public sector places, where employees have to fill the questionnaire).
Long story short: Currently there is 900 police officers charged with sexual abuse and domestic ones - nothing more just those 2 categories, and a lot more regarding discrimination, homophobic behaviour and simply... lack of education (as most of them are just old school, not the brightest bunch anyway and all they could do is join the police at some point, old mentality and they don't want to change - all they want to do is to wait for the retirement).
And almost 30% of women, police officers reported abuse from the so called colleagues... with a low level, few precent reporting sexual one. No matter how you want to spin it... that is not normal, for any organization. In fact in most of the places, private one or public one around London - a lot of them would be sacked on the spot (but not in the police).
Edit: grammar & spelling here and there
Scotts daisies barrels of fine spirit 🌱
Also needlessly slaughtered dogs that had caused no injury, and were both on lead, posing no risk when confronted by idiotic police officers; devoid of humanity or common sense. Human excrement with guns and a danger to us all.
I ave heard the exact same from a ex met officer just the other day, so sad what another officer has had to go through. If you haven’t RUclips millions and Marshall shot by the met police this was there actions on the seventh of may.
Poor dogs shot with guns brutally and there was no need. What does met do try cover it up nearly one and a half million signed petition there is also a face book group if you want the name it’s millions and Marshall shot dead by the met police at lime house London
Funny how all these police don't come out about grooming gangs
It's propaganda when you only talk about sexism and racism, and say nothing about how the police serve the state instead of the law, meaning we have a police state.
So brave she even wore crocks.
Unfortunately rhis has been the case for many years!!
@mk0ee7vx - not just many years, 15-20+. But the main issue is that this is just getting worse, according to various reports.
Before, long ago you could say the the police was racist in some cases, easily target some of the minorities.
Now? You have sexism and misogyny, homofobia and almost completed disreagard for women police officers, their own colleagues - all on top of racism (did you know that according to that Louise Casey report, almost 30% of women police officers, reported abuse, with small precentage reporting sexual abuse? In their own workplace, from colleagues)? That is not normal in any organization, no matter how some people want to spin it.
NOT JUST THE MET.
what do you expect from Freemasons ?
I wasn’t a Freemason and only experienced that situation back in 1998 . I challenged it and the corruption of the situation was sorted out . Don’t think every cop is a Freemason in every force . That’s a myth .
@@markwalker4142 good for you. i don’t, but more often than not the higher up flat hats are.
I think we all know that there are useless
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Does ITV always rely on disgruntled former employees as the single version of the truth?
So she didn't complain but went to the news for a payday instead
Im sure theres a trans man who can take her place...😇
RUBBISH i can tell she's just another say a lot do nothing type worker.
I know what that feels like,,,
The Met is broken? Try the justice systems judges lawyers everything judges are the biggest criminals
She quit? She should’ve stayed put and taken no 💩 from her colleagues.
Spoken like somebody who was never in that situation.
In education sector? Yeah, definitely possible, and issues like that are dealt with very quickly (UCL, UAL, King's College and so on). Most people would be sacked very quickly after the internal investigation is done. I've seen that happened in couple of cases.
In NHS? The same. Guys like that, who are abusing toward female coworkers - would be sacked very quickly, after a quick internal investigation. Brutal one too. And this is not tolerated at all.
In police force? Not possible. Not gonna happen. Louise Casey internal report is just a proof of it. In a lot of cases, those guys can work there for ages...
So why do women apply. I think the government need to only take on male officers as they are physically fit to take on such roles
And? If you join public service as a women you should expect this! Yes it's not right but that's how it works sorry! The British Army is exactly the same 🤷
A real man would stand up and do the right thing. Whats it like having no dignity?
@@baggyobeast Pretty fulfilling :)
@@zonenuke not really meant to answer rhetorical questions but OK, good to know
@@baggyobeastlol dude she's making a mountain out of a mole hill. I can tells she's that type