the paradox of this scene / movie is that the characters in the book are so well trained to NOT show any emotion / expression that could give away their motivations. Obviously you can't have a film where everyone is a stone-faced wall, so it's a feat to balance on the knife's edge of showing just enough for the audience to register meaning and have them still be true to the character. What an accomplishment for the actors and direction.
Duke Leto wouldn't have had any special training if I remember though. He's just a normal guy who happens to be a duke. He should be as stone-faced as possible but he had no special training.
The sound design surrounding the Bene Gesserit is the most ominous of any in the film for me. More than any Harkonnen or worm. I think that's intentional. I felt genuine dread in their scenes. The weight of that stare the sister gives Jessica while Leto marks the agreement accompanied with the rumble of the sands of an entire universe shifting in this scene got me goooddddd.
I didn’t pick up on the design woven into Jessica’s clothing or the subtle glance at Paul. There’s so much subconscious information Denis Villeneuve offers in every scene that takes an expert to awaken us to it.
There's so much going on in this scene that it's easy to miss something. In just a few words, we learn that Gurney Halleck is not given to much humour, and that Thufir Hawatt is a human computer. We also see how the Bene Gesserit stares at Jessica and Paul, It's not only that Jessica bore a son when she was ordered to produce only daughters; the Sister would also have picked up that Jessica had been giving him Bene Gesserit training as well. Perhaps the most significant exchange, though, is the one almost everyone seems to have missed. Perhaps it's only after you've seen the whole film that it becomes evident. That's the final exchange between Leto and the Herald. Leto seems anxious that the transfer of authority is complete, but he is also aware that, if not an actual trap, there are many pitfalls ahead. The Herald's tone, when he answers that 'It's done.' has a kind of finality in it. It's almost as if, in just those two words, he's telling Leto that the trap's been sprung, and Leto and the rest of House Atreides is doomed...
This is the scene where I fell in love with this film and ostensibly began my obsession with this story world. Come to find out it's not even in the book 😅 Fair play, Villeneuve
Please keep the great content coming! I don’t know if this is your only channel but your videos are excellent quality. You write the narration and edit the footage like a pro. It’s also really nice to have some shorter videos that are 2-5 minutes long like these since, as much as I like to get immersed in a 30+ minute Dune breakdown, there’s not always time to finish them once started.
Thank you so much! More content is coming, especially since Dune Part Two is so close! And I agree, there are already plenty of channels making the 20-30 minute Dune videos, so I am hoping to kind of carve my own lane with these 2-5 minute ones.
He also does tons of exposition as narration just covered as being characters listening to a book - with no real practical reason as to why the characters are listening/viewing the thing except to explain or foreshadow something to the audience. Overall I didn't like the balance he used in this film, while also leaving out significant character stories that would help develop secondary characters.
@@joejackson4627 Ok? Explain to me how a side-character being changed from male to female effects the story? Oh wait, it doesn't. You people just like to get upset over the dumbest shit because you're probably sexist. Otherwise why mention it? After Kynes is killed & Chani reacts to the death, Kynes is barely ever mentioned again, if at all. So again why does it matter if the character is male or female?
@@AChopstix Ok I guess we could cast Mohiam as a man then? Sexist, for pointing out a falsehood? Go smoke another. Chani's mother died years before the events in Dune. Liet is a major character in the prequel triology. Good luck explaining that Mr Villeneuve .
@@joejackson4627 Wtf does Mohiam have to do with this? Also you didn't explain how this affects the plot...oh wait cause it doesn't. In this version Chani's father died years before the events of Dune. Why the fuck does it matter? Why does it make you so upset to see a woman cast over a man? Also fuck the prequel trilogy, Brian Herbert is a terrible writer and rode the coattails of his father because he isn't talented enough to come up with his own original story.
The Herald of the Change is played by Benjamin Clementine a unique, hauntingly beautiful singer./songwriter. This was his first movie role. He has a great NPR Tiny Desk. concert. Here’s his Wikipedia.: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Clementine
the paradox of this scene / movie is that the characters in the book are so well trained to NOT show any emotion / expression that could give away their motivations. Obviously you can't have a film where everyone is a stone-faced wall, so it's a feat to balance on the knife's edge of showing just enough for the audience to register meaning and have them still be true to the character. What an accomplishment for the actors and direction.
This is such a great way of saying it! Such a complex scene to try to make digestible for a broad audience.
Duke Leto wouldn't have had any special training if I remember though. He's just a normal guy who happens to be a duke. He should be as stone-faced as possible but he had no special training.
That scene is PACKED!
The sound design surrounding the Bene Gesserit is the most ominous of any in the film for me. More than any Harkonnen or worm. I think that's intentional. I felt genuine dread in their scenes. The weight of that stare the sister gives Jessica while Leto marks the agreement accompanied with the rumble of the sands of an entire universe shifting in this scene got me goooddddd.
I didn’t pick up on the design woven into Jessica’s clothing or the subtle glance at Paul.
There’s so much subconscious information Denis Villeneuve offers in every scene that takes an expert to awaken us to it.
There's so much going on in this scene that it's easy to miss something. In just a few words, we learn that Gurney Halleck is not given to much humour, and that Thufir Hawatt is a human computer. We also see how the Bene Gesserit stares at Jessica and Paul, It's not only that Jessica bore a son when she was ordered to produce only daughters; the Sister would also have picked up that Jessica had been giving him Bene Gesserit training as well.
Perhaps the most significant exchange, though, is the one almost everyone seems to have missed. Perhaps it's only after you've seen the whole film that it becomes evident. That's the final exchange between Leto and the Herald. Leto seems anxious that the transfer of authority is complete, but he is also aware that, if not an actual trap, there are many pitfalls ahead. The Herald's tone, when he answers that 'It's done.' has a kind of finality in it. It's almost as if, in just those two words, he's telling Leto that the trap's been sprung, and Leto and the rest of House Atreides is doomed...
Your analysis of that scene was beautiful and enlightening!
This is the scene where I fell in love with this film and ostensibly began my obsession with this story world. Come to find out it's not even in the book 😅 Fair play, Villeneuve
Also low key one of the best cues in the score
Please keep the great content coming! I don’t know if this is your only channel but your videos are excellent quality. You write the narration and edit the footage like a pro. It’s also really nice to have some shorter videos that are 2-5 minutes long like these since, as much as I like to get immersed in a 30+ minute Dune breakdown, there’s not always time to finish them once started.
Thank you so much! More content is coming, especially since Dune Part Two is so close! And I agree, there are already plenty of channels making the 20-30 minute Dune videos, so I am hoping to kind of carve my own lane with these 2-5 minute ones.
Denis and the crew execute so well!
Finished the book for the first time last night. What a book, what an amazing story Herbert wrote. Sad it's over, but now I know.
I honestly watch this film once a week and still always notice something I missed before.
God tier content
You didn’t mention the Guildsmen and the spice gas during The Herald of the Change scene.
A great breakdown and analysis. Thanks
I appreciate that!
Great work, Kyle!🐀⚔💧
excellent content right here
Nice analysis, but you should have commented on Thufir. ;-)
The bene geserit knee of paul long before this scene.
I would've liked to have seen more of Leto.
Subscribed
He also does tons of exposition as narration just covered as being characters listening to a book - with no real practical reason as to why the characters are listening/viewing the thing except to explain or foreshadow something to the audience. Overall I didn't like the balance he used in this film, while also leaving out significant character stories that would help develop secondary characters.
Did he cover how Liet was miscast?
I thought Liet’s casting was excellent
@@evieyak I'm guessing you've not read the book. Liet is Chani's father..
@@joejackson4627 Ok? Explain to me how a side-character being changed from male to female effects the story? Oh wait, it doesn't. You people just like to get upset over the dumbest shit because you're probably sexist. Otherwise why mention it? After Kynes is killed & Chani reacts to the death, Kynes is barely ever mentioned again, if at all. So again why does it matter if the character is male or female?
@@AChopstix Ok I guess we could cast Mohiam as a man then? Sexist, for pointing out a falsehood? Go smoke another. Chani's mother died years before the events in Dune. Liet is a major character in the prequel triology. Good luck explaining that Mr Villeneuve .
@@joejackson4627 Wtf does Mohiam have to do with this? Also you didn't explain how this affects the plot...oh wait cause it doesn't. In this version Chani's father died years before the events of Dune. Why the fuck does it matter? Why does it make you so upset to see a woman cast over a man? Also fuck the prequel trilogy, Brian Herbert is a terrible writer and rode the coattails of his father because he isn't talented enough to come up with his own original story.
The Herald of the Change is played by Benjamin Clementine a unique, hauntingly beautiful singer./songwriter. This was his first movie role. He has a great NPR Tiny Desk. concert. Here’s his Wikipedia.: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Clementine
Yes and I saw Benjamin at the Dune Part Two Premiere Afterparty! So he still hangs around with the Dune crew.