Spotting Demko AD20.5 CLONES from eBay, AliExpress, etc. Knockoff comparison 🤥
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2022
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Comparing a Demko AD20.5 knock off / clone from eBay/AliExpress/Wish to the real deal… initial box opening, almost didn’t realize. 😶
Blade material is 8Cr15MoV (marked AUS10A), and the handle material is G10 vs grivory.
Luckily, side by side there are many differences to watch for:
1) Different pivot hardware (larger)
2) No textureless “AD20.5” logo under the pocket clip
3) Pocket clip finish is satin
4) Has steel backoffs vs back spacer
5) Smaller screws in backoffs
6) No lefty carry / pocket clip included
7) Subtle shark lock ramp shape difference
8) Shark lock appears slightly narrower
9) Locking “divot” in base of blade is shallower
10) Box and cleaning cloth slightly different colors
11) No pattern on box, blue lines are a lighter color
12) Knife case material is cheaper poly
13) Gimping on shark lock is different
14) Blade steel is satin/stonewashed vs tumbled
15) Smaller gimping on blade spine
16) Blue box base has lighter grey knife logos
17) Shark on knife case different color
18) Knife comes in a shorter plastic wrap
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Mid Price
1) Benchmade Bugout & Mini - www.dlttrading.com/benchmade-...
2) Demko AD20.5 - www.dlttrading.com/demko-ad20...
3) We Knife Co Banter - whitemountainknives.com/we-kn...
4) Spyderco Para 3 G10 SV45VN - www.dlttrading.com/spyderco-p...
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1) Civivi Elementum - whitemountainknives.com/civiv...
2) Ontario Rat 2 - whitemountainknives.com/ontar...
3) Victorinox Tinker - www.dlttrading.com/swiss-army...
4) Victorinox Explorer - www.dlttrading.com/swiss-army...
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lol who cares about the box if it’s not a collector knife
People like that shark case man and the patch that detaches lol mine came in a plastic box but I’d take a case in a heart beat just to keep other knives in. Cuz it sho won’t be this one it’s my main carry now lol
Great video. After watching it I immediately went to eBay and found a seller peddling these fakes for $255. I’m trying to find a way to report him. It’s one thing to sell a knockoff at a knockoff price but he’s selling knockoffs at a higher price than what you can get a legitimate one for.
Yeah I just saw those go up on eBay this week, such a scam!
Absolutely agree! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
They have the Titanium versions for $40-$50 would love a comparison.
do you have a link?
Just bought mine. Waiting to review. Should be a week.
Have the clone. It’s amazing. Bought aftermarket demko scales. Fit right in. 🤷🏻♂️ I’m not spending 200 dollars on a knife, y’all are out of your f mind.
@@CorpseInTheMaking i have 3 of the titanium ones now and they are just incredible! You’re going to love it. I have gotten one where the lock rattled a bit side to side but the other 2 had better tolerances. But for the price to get a titanium, shark lock, & a D2 blade that gets a wicked sharp edge. You just can’t beat that for $40ish. Other than the edge retention of the better steel from the real one, I don’t see how the real one could get better. I might get some hate for this but listen I’m way over brand names at this point in life. As long as the quality is good and It looks good I don’t care about it being Counterfeit. I was never going to buy the real one to begin with and I still get to enjoy it. Expensive for the sake of being expensive is not me. Plus you wont be afraid to really use it which is the whole point of owning a knife. And obviously don’t be the piece of shit that tries to rip people off by passing it off as the real thing.
Can anyone provide a link
Just to play Devil's advocate, my Demko had a slight squeak, not as bad as that. One drop of mineral oil and it was gone. My QSP penguin occasionally squeaks as well.
my demko ad20.5 does as well, not as bad now but sill there after cleaning and lubing
I have a titanium one coming in soon . Can’t wait
Only the grivory knives have the flat spot on the scales.thats how you can tell the difference between grivory and G10. And G10 would make it weight more too.
Right! And they don't make the AD20.5 in G10, only the AD20/AD20S. ☝
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Thank you for participating and adding valuable commentary, it has been fun! 🙏
Congratulation on 100 sub... 1k next... cheers
Wow thanks!! 🎉
Well I just read somewhere the AD20 clones will be out early 2023 and anything thats wrong with this knife will be fixed on those.
Absolutely true! Got mine AD20 few days ago from Ali. Sold by Jufule. Excellent quality. Zero blade play. Perfect knife for the money. God bless China!
They shouldn’t put his name on it. I’ll tell you what man I recently got a cold steel A.D. 15 and I fell in love with the knife after it broken. I will say the lock bar was sharp on the bottom but some 2K paper made it smooth enough to pinch. So I absolutely fell in love with the design and respect for the man and they shouldn’t put his freaking name on it.
I agree they shouldn't put the names on the clones. I have zero problems with clones in general, there are clones or 'inspired copies' of almost everything in the world, not just knives. But the original branding shouldn't be used.
Looks like you have a spot on g10….not a grivory
Soon you’ll be rocking 100K subs bud
Thanks!
Clones improving more and more, even in the steel alloys.
At 22 minutes the edge on the black one looks like it’s 12° from that viewpoint. Sorry about all the comments I’m over here just talking and texting.. Oh it was blurry I see
What's the closest clone to a real one have you got? I'm thinking about grabbing one just for the fake pouch because my real one from BladeHQ only came in a plastic tube.
Only got the one, you might be able to get an authentic case from a website, or from someone on bladeforums, or the Demko fb group. If not, take a look at AliExpress where this one came from, seller JUFULE but I don’t want to link and promote them.
Yeah unfortunately Demko changed their packaging BECAUSE of all the fakes & clones. Now the "legitimate AD 20.5" knives *only* come in the dumb tube. I bought one of the "Blade HQ Exclusive Jade Grivory" editions when the AD 20.5 first came out with the pouch. Long story short, I recently reached out to Blade HQ & Demko and was told the pouch was discontinued in favor of the plastic pill case tube to easily identify the fakes/clones. It sucks. They are really nice pouches. I have 3 different models & only 1 of the nice pouches. They pop up on eBay without a knife from time to time but people want $50+ for them. Happy hunting
What do you think dude order a black real Demco and get some original goat scales? I just picked up a Roxy three it’s all right kind of small. The actions really good though. Apparently this knife is a good flipper to otherwise it wouldn’t be so popular. I know I’m going to get it I’m trying to talk myself out of it
Haha! Yeah, just get a Demko, so good. I don’t mind the Grivory, OG would be a nice add though.
@@pocketpriorities absolutely
Great video! Liked and subscribed
Thanks!
The "New" demko ad20.5 grivory handle with the D2 blade actual does come with steel demko pivot or maybe it's 3v non titanium. The old grivory with the Aus10 blade doesn't have the steel Demko pivot..........................
Oh? Where are you seeing that?
@@pocketpriorities I don't see them anymore they were at blade hq, dlt or knife center. About 1-2mo ago I'll look into more and let you know.. Not the titanium handle w/ 3v blade either...
@@zbaird3 ah, I think you mean the AD20S model, made in USA? Those do have the full steel pivot hardware even on Grivory and G10. Whereas only the AD20.5 Titanium and CF models from Taiwan have it.
@@pocketpriorities No It was the 20.5 .. I've got it somewhere ill show you. HANG ON
@@pocketpriorities my bad I didn't see your carbon fiber comment. Your probably right mighty be only the carbon fiber.. I thought it was grivory too but maybe not..
Yes, I have seen the Chinese Knock-Offs; beware! The are trying to sell them for premium prices on eBay; beware! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
What scumbags
@@druidic4353 Exactly!!!
Seems like nobody is doing a vid on regular full size AD20 counterfeits and clones. I just saw one advertised as a clone on eBay but it looks exactly the same. I was just about to pay secondary market price for one until I found out about this. At $1,300 I just can’t take the chance now knowing there are identical counterfeits of the original ad20 with textured ti. 😢😕🤬
oof yeah that's scary! I hadn't seen any at the time, i try to stay away from those sites but maybe ill do another one on the AD20 FS if it gets bad
I e bought a few clones over the years out of curiosity to compare , lol. ZT 0456 and green thorn stellar were actually pretty well done . We were all suprised actually . The rest were crap . I remember a guy saying the frank Fischer battle was well done . These knives didn’t have the name billboarded , just a decent copied design , oh the ZT was an imposter but the green thorn stellar is a knife people would actually like imo .
How long did it take in shipping and where did you order from
@@adamthomas4638 3 weeks . Man it’s nice . So nice 👍. Nicer than two sun
Is there that much money to be made that they go to these lengths?
Great question! I have no idea how they can ship this from China for $25 and still make money.
@@pocketpriorities The only reasoning is that we must simply value labor and materials far too much. It boggles the mind to think what China's manufacturing capability truly must be.
@@pocketpriorities Another thought: perhaps China is so uncreative so as to be starving for ideas on what to manufacture to give jobs to 5 billion citizens.
@@pocketpriorities Also, we in America must be so wealthy relative to the average Chinese citizen that our perspective on value is isolated and skewed. Much like how royalty lives relative to us.
@@Greenmachine305 indeed
While I don't condone forgeries in the slightest, I am curious as to how it performs. Everyone's main complaint against the AD20.5 is the price paid for budget materials; this clone seems much more inline.
Definitely shows the money goes largely to R&D, no one in China is developing tech like the shark lock. That said, this clone is definitely a step down on materials, quality, and much more so it’s not like for like. Just consider there are knives with 20CV for $99 and similar 20CV knives for $999. A lot goes into determining price.
@@pocketpriorities I ordered the black on black from Bladeops for Christmas, so I guess I'll be joining the Demko family shortly :) Thanks for the review and comparison!
@@sublyme2157 fantastic, great choice!
One more for the Algo, L O L
Lol!
Well I got ripped. When did demko downgrade their packaging? I got a damn plastic case
Saves you space haha! All the top end Demko AD20.5 (everything withtbhe bigger pivot hardware) have always shipped in the simple plastic case, kinda cool.
Makes me sick to be point blank. Because now whomever purchases one of these and adds the cheap ( clone ) aluminum scale kit will now have a super clone. I recently saw a scale set with hardware on a knife forum that you can not tell the difference between the real vs this kit. It actually comes down to weight or testing to know the difference between the two. Means many inexperienced buyers could potentially purchase one thinking it is real.
We should stop all importation of knock off knives kinda like they do with other things they confiscate within customs.
In a serious way Americans are partly responsible for this. By supporting these clone manufacturers they in return can upgrade their efforts and machinery to create better clones.
And drive down American manufacturers prices.
That in itself is another problem. These companies here that produce these knives and then slap ridiculous prices on their knives actually are in the long run cutting their own throats. With Chinese labor being so much cheaper they can dang near create close enough to exact copies for a fraction of the costs. And people who want or like the American designs but hate the pricing will of course grab a clone instead.
I have recently seen a updated clone Benchmade 9400 where they now have the purple backspacer the correct color to match the original versions purple backspacer.
Given enough time the Chinese will get these right eventually.
I am not sure there is any way of stopping this as long as people continue purchasing the clones.
Talk about a vicious circle ..
Indeed! What percent of these do you think sell in the US vs in other countries?
You're not the brightest guy on the hood my man aren't you? 😂
@@4Sandrix I’m pretty sure this is an insult but given it’s not a coherent sentence, nor do you give context on what you found to be a display of underwhelming intelligence, I’m just going to take it as constructive feedback to “be brighter”. 🫡
@@pocketpriorities 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I can tell they’re nowhere near the same quality although they look similar . I ve been down this road . It has to be at least $60 for any clone to be close to good . Don’t let the night community for you there’s people there by these two just cause we’re all curious
Quite a confusing and repetitive vid. You could have easily accomplished your goal in half the time.
Get 2 2mm shims. That fixes all the problems
honestly man... the zipper pouch is most likely the exact same product off the same assembly line. it's not like he's stitching these things in his shop, they are outsourced to china for sure. Even the real ad20.5 knife itself is made in Taiwan...
I’ll post a revised statement video immediately… 😊
I’m happy to buy a knife made in Taiwan. No way I’ll buy one made in china.
@@rockymountainlockpicker9606 yeah... ok... I'm sure you don't own any products made in China 🙄
You're such a virtuous human. 🙄
It’s a counterfeit, not a “replica”.
Duly noted, thanks for the comment!
People who buy stollen knife designs should be shunned from the community.
You’re so cool after spending your life savings on the same knife we can get for 15 lol
@@_doomzday You feed criminals.
@I Bleed Thc if your entire life savings is 350 bucks then your just poor. Get gud and make your life richer.
I have over 100 folding knives and the demko is so over priced for the lock. The China clones are AWESOME. D2 is better tool Steel than 10A and China’s heat treat on the d2 is great. Never had any issues sharpening or use. For $27 and you get upgraded materials lol g10 and great heated tool steal for $125 difference. I didn’t mind adding some KPL oil to the pivot and sharpening it. No blade play or noise, same action, and as slicy. My real one was $165 clone $27. The price does not out weight the quality by any means, it is not even close.
Sounds like you prefer the clones and don’t mind patent fraud?
@@pocketpriorities I don’t prefer them but if you can sharpen your own shit and like collect, I only get clones I can’t get the real deal or afford at the time. Most of mine are the real deal. I lost my real demko replaced it with a clone and it was as good or better for $125 less 🤷🏼♂️ hard to turn down. I have 12 plus real benchmades and spyderco. I don’t need any more high end steel. All into budget blades love kizer and kancept. Sitivien and CJRB knocking it out of the park with 14c28n and ar-rpm9
@@pocketpriorities I don’t like to admit it, but for the money USA is getting KILLED in the industry… it’s not close right now
@@pocketpriorities Bestech is crapping on Benchmade for the price 🤷🏼♂️sucks but it’s the truth
How long did it take for a knife to come from aliexpress
Not meant to promote the purchase of clones, just to help people avoid being sold them at full price.