How Security Pins Work

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @brennencox516
    @brennencox516 3 года назад +1345

    Welp, now I understand a tiny bit more of what the lockpicking lawyer does.

    • @SpencerHHO
      @SpencerHHO 3 года назад +81

      It just makes it all the more impressive how easily he picks locks.

    • @TaiwanFlashard
      @TaiwanFlashard 3 года назад +14

      I was thinking exactly the same thing.

    • @OS10100
      @OS10100 3 года назад +18

      @@SpencerHHO When you do something for a living. You tend to get good at it. It's like saying man that pilot of 20+ years experience made that vertical 380 degree spin look easy!

    • @minercraftal
      @minercraftal 3 года назад +5

      +1,just pass through LPL’s video when get to this one… 😂 this one is a excellent video maker!

    • @OS10100
      @OS10100 3 года назад +2

      @@SpencerHHO lol

  • @WhiskeyGulf71
    @WhiskeyGulf71 3 года назад +587

    This & another of your videos has really helped me to understand what the Lock Picking lawyer is encountering whilst picking locks, i had no idea when watching him pick what was causing counter rotation, now it makes perfect sense.

    • @raymondwiggins354
      @raymondwiggins354 2 года назад +2

      Same

    • @iloveddlc2007
      @iloveddlc2007 Год назад

      Now, i cant find any sense of how its possible to defeat the last pin without dropping eveeyting, suka

    • @petesmith9472
      @petesmith9472 Год назад +1

      ..and your comment has cleared that up for me too

    • @keitofu
      @keitofu Год назад +1

      Same here it is really clear now with this video !!!

  • @taylankammer
    @taylankammer 3 года назад +243

    Your videos should be getting a lot more attention, they're exceptionally well-made with the CGI and clear explanations!

    • @BestHakase
      @BestHakase 3 года назад

      It is not so popular bcz the sound level is too low.

  • @DukeBG
    @DukeBG 3 года назад +46

    this was an explanation that I needed on how these work!
    LPL often disassembles the lock and just goes: "this one was a spool, this one was a t-pin, thanks for watching, goodbye", leaving the viewer a bit confused about how those shapes actually factor in the picking process.

    • @evelbill1439
      @evelbill1439 3 года назад +6

      The going out and finding out is more than half the fun! LPL is allowing you to pursue this on your own, it’s a remarkable show of good sportsmanship. It’s not like you’re his apprentice. This is a useful hobby and it’s up to you to learn it!

    • @onemoremisfit
      @onemoremisfit 2 года назад +2

      @@evelbill1439 That's why some viewers seek instructive content like this, to learn. LPL is informative to the extent of consumer education about what makes a secure lock, and also he does useful reviews on tools of the trade as well as consumer lock products. Along the way a new enthusiast can learn from him, but largely his content is more entertainment than instruction, and I'm sure that is intentional on his part. His comment section is dominated by attention seekers cracking unoriginal unfunny jokes over and over, and that is to be expected on any channel with subs in the millions.

  • @EdocDab
    @EdocDab 4 года назад +202

    After the basics that I have seen many people explain, I am much enjoying the more in depth videos like this. Really well done 👍

  • @onazram1
    @onazram1 3 года назад +1

    Finally someone is describing the fine details and nuances of locks that no one else is...

  • @nejiross
    @nejiross 9 месяцев назад +1

    I like how this video allowed me to realize that counter rotation isn't ALWAYS direct counter rotation, but more so just lightening the tension while still retaining some tension to allow it to counter rotate naturally and keep the pins secured that are being set or are set. It's like car tires realigning themselves when driving forward after a turn without directly turning them. For some reason that is the analogy that formed in my head.

  • @BirdsOfGlass
    @BirdsOfGlass 3 года назад +3

    I'm here from LPL. RUclips basically decided I am into lock picking now & they were right.

  • @vodiak
    @vodiak 4 года назад +86

    This is great, especially the focus on on how it affects picking and what it will feel like when picked. Looking forward to some of the more unusual designs (disc detainer, dimple, slider, interactive elements...).

  • @williamna5800
    @williamna5800 4 года назад +38

    Loved this! It's exactly the knowledge needed to be able to progress past the master locks so many of us start on. This video takes the mystery out of picking slightly harder locks and allows us to mentally picture whats happening inside, thus giving us a much better chance of success. Every new picker need to see your videos. LPL and Bill are absolutely great to watch, but knowing what they are doing by watching your videos really puts it into perspective.

  • @tiirikka6480
    @tiirikka6480 4 года назад +31

    These explanations are great! I think that the part starting at 1:35 with the "picture in picture" view of the lock from two angles is really brilliant. I think that this is the first time I've seen the "Would this be shown as a cutaway of a single pin or by showing the whole lock mechanic" solved by being able to do both at the same time.

  • @libertariamemes
    @libertariamemes Месяц назад

    THATS FOR SURE ONE OF THE BEST LOCKPICK VIDEOS EVER

  • @paradox19993
    @paradox19993 3 года назад +6

    awesome demonstration, i went from no understanding to getting how the pins work in the first few mins thank you :)

  • @gamerzk1llz894
    @gamerzk1llz894 2 года назад

    I see only comments about LPL.. so I want to say thank you for helping me understand safety pins because I'm just starting in lockpicking hobby :)

  • @ThePrufessa
    @ThePrufessa Год назад

    This is just what I needed to help me understand what's going on inside of locks and how security pins resist picking. Now I can watch LPL with much better understanding.

  • @srnunan4783
    @srnunan4783 3 года назад

    I’ve been wishing LPL would explain what is a false set and what causes counter rotation because neither is easy to understand if you just consider standard pins, but he mentions them on nearly every pick and he has millions of viewers.
    He owes you some revenue

  • @dm4800
    @dm4800 Год назад

    I've been searching youtube on this subject for the past 2 days and finally came across this gem of a video. TY for the information

  • @donaldvincent
    @donaldvincent 3 года назад

    My father was a locksmith thru the 1970's and 80's. I used to love watching him pick locks and make keys by impression. He was self taught and lucky for him I do not recall any of these security pins. He used to take me along during summer break and as I got older he would let me rekey a customer's lock once in a while. I was fascinated by the mechanical nature and he taught me a lot about the history of locks. For example that before his head was cut off King Louis of France was trained as a locksmith simply because he too loved mechanical things. There were also ancient locks from Africa where the key was made of rope and sticks of different lengths. If your stick was too long or short you were locked out. Pretty cool in an age long before Google.

  • @litephaze
    @litephaze Год назад +1

    I am very, very impressed with your videos! Very easy to understand, comprehend, and your illustrations are straight-forward! Great work!

  • @EvaderGuy
    @EvaderGuy 3 года назад +22

    Outstanding class! The graphics are superb and your explanations are clear and very easy to understand and look forward to watching the rest of your videos. Please do keep them coming!

  • @Pyrolock
    @Pyrolock 4 года назад +22

    Thanks "Mr. Lockfall" -- You have done a great job with your computer animation using something like a power point recording -- Good Job -- I personally like this format -- Thanks for your hard work and sharing it with us

  • @nando68two
    @nando68two 3 года назад +1

    OK, so I know what it feels like on my fingers when I hit security pins, but now I have a much better understanding about what I'm feeling as I pick. Thanks for teaching this. I have a feeling that this can improve my picking technique.

  • @AnCapGamer
    @AnCapGamer 3 года назад

    I saw this video in suggestions from watching Lockpicking Lawyer. Now i have a better understanding of what he is saying, thanks!!

  • @77gravity
    @77gravity 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video, thank you. I have been watching LPL for some time, and he often refers to these pin types, but it's great to see the operation of each type, to understand how they make picking so much more difficult than the "standard" smooth pins.

  • @agentfourteen8574
    @agentfourteen8574 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for this video. Really great CGI and narration throughout the video.

  • @theprinceofallsaiyans5830
    @theprinceofallsaiyans5830 3 года назад

    After watching lock pick lawyer i thought negatively of this video at first but as i watched i was given answers to terminology questions that i had with LPL. So thanks you cleared up allot. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @boneinthebox
    @boneinthebox 4 года назад +10

    This is exactly what I needed while learning and didn't have.

  • @kevinbrown4947
    @kevinbrown4947 3 года назад +7

    Thanks. Very well done. Good animations and articulate expert commentary. Stay well.

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 3 года назад +9

    Huge fan of LPL, but your videos explain lock picking better!

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ 2 года назад +1

      that's because LPL expects some kind of prior experience or knowledge

  • @RookKnight
    @RookKnight 4 года назад +29

    I have been enjoying these, and now that they are starting to get into the more advanced locks, Im all the more excited, keep up the incredible work.

  • @davidgrisez
    @davidgrisez 3 года назад

    This video does a lot to explain how locks are made more difficult to pick by the use of various types of security pins. This video also helps to explain the terminology used in videos by the Lock Picking Lawyer RUclips videos when he is picking a lock. The Lock Picking Lawyer RUclips videos show that a very experienced locksmith with the right tools and a lot of practice can still pick these locks with security pins. All it takes is some additional time.

  • @RobertJochim
    @RobertJochim 3 года назад

    Very well done. Now I'm off to buy more tightly-fitting tension wrenches than what I've been using. Your explanation of the mechanics of counter-rotation gave me that "a-ha moment", and now I finally get it.

  • @WiliamBennettwildarbennett
    @WiliamBennettwildarbennett 3 года назад +3

    Am glad I've started learning with KW1 and most of those are mastered and makes it a lot easier so far that is.

  • @XxdiggitxX
    @XxdiggitxX 2 года назад

    Damn dude. I've been a part of locksport for years, seen all the videos and such, this right here is GOLD. Excellent job, I'm going to make sure I watch every bit of content of yours

  • @Desopolis
    @Desopolis 3 года назад +1

    I’ve been interested in the lock stuff (especially because of LPL, Bill, etc) but haven’t been able to add it to my ridiculously long hobby list yet.
    This vid is great for explaining and understanding wtf is actually going on and why!

  • @rofflestomp684
    @rofflestomp684 3 года назад +3

    Excellent videos with very clear graphics and straight forward explanations of what is going on. Eye opener for me, thanks.

  • @Unkn0wn1133
    @Unkn0wn1133 2 года назад

    Great diagrams, Im a visual learner and this is exactly the kind of explanation i need.

  • @The_A_Cast
    @The_A_Cast 3 года назад

    By far the most interesting and informative video on the internet!
    Now I can finally understand what LPL is talking about! 😂

  • @belperite
    @belperite 3 года назад +1

    This is really good. Great graphics mean I now understand (on a very basic level) how these locks work. Just shows how much practice LPL, Bosnianbill et al have to put in to recognise and defeat these locks.

  • @lindsay.newman
    @lindsay.newman 3 года назад

    excellent explanation, as others have said, now I understand a lot more of the lockpicking lawyer.

  • @jcricket23
    @jcricket23 4 года назад +3

    Superb video. Clear explanations with excellent visuals. Bravo!

  • @berbstn
    @berbstn 4 года назад +8

    Great teaching through animation. Good job.

  • @lynnottaway7090
    @lynnottaway7090 3 года назад

    The visualization in this video helps so much! Thank you!

  • @walden6272
    @walden6272 Год назад

    That was an excellent presentation. I finally understand these security pins. Thank you!

  • @dougfive3907
    @dougfive3907 3 года назад +2

    Amazing video man, I was super confused about the different security pins, but now I feel like I have a working understanding of them

  • @DestroyedAngel
    @DestroyedAngel 3 года назад

    This is EXACTLY what I was looking for!!! Thank you!! Really helps to know what you’re feeling in the lock!

  • @evasuser
    @evasuser 4 года назад +11

    you're amazing, thank you for the education and please keep uploading.

  • @MrSthomas423
    @MrSthomas423 3 года назад

    Best video on the subject by far. Thought-out and clear

  • @Justus_Patrick
    @Justus_Patrick 3 года назад +1

    wow that was one of the most informitive and helpful videos ive seen. Bravo sir. Would you be able to make one with every "keyword" demonstrated? Like a "set" pin, "overset" "binding" etc?

  • @W-C-F-o1k
    @W-C-F-o1k 2 года назад

    This video has been the most helpful thing I've seen!! You deserve more subs

  • @ronnycook3569
    @ronnycook3569 3 года назад

    I'm really surprised to see that you still only have ~10k subscribers a year after making this.

  • @OldManTenno
    @OldManTenno 3 года назад

    Fantastic video demonstrating what I’ve only heard about in other videos.

  • @TekDristan
    @TekDristan 3 года назад

    Thank you for the video. Just getting started on recreational lock picking and this was a great illustration of security pins and the feedback to expect with each type.

  • @Xmw92ba3oenalfk9
    @Xmw92ba3oenalfk9 3 года назад +1

    Great video to help us know what really goes on inside!

  • @RSDonovan
    @RSDonovan 2 года назад

    Great video! Doesn’t the key ever get caught by these traps?

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video!! So well explained!!

  • @krugmaintenance
    @krugmaintenance 2 месяца назад

    Great video! Thanks for the in depth explanation!

  • @austin702
    @austin702 2 года назад +1

    Awesome, awesome video. I have a question though. The T pin you show at 5:34 is oriented with the skinny side down and as you show in this position it can be simply pushed through to the shear line. However, when I’ve actually come across T pins in locks they have the skinny side up, which makes them get hung up and harder to pick. Do you have any tips on these? I’m pretty good at spool pins but T pins I can’t seem to get. Thanks!

  • @KF1
    @KF1 3 года назад +3

    well presented. thanks

  • @Zerpersande
    @Zerpersande 3 года назад

    Spools give me the most problems. I lose my false set really often. And given how common they are it’s obvious why my skill level involves lots of frustration.

  • @mikeesty2513
    @mikeesty2513 3 года назад +1

    The barrel/spool with the torpedo key pin is a nasty combo, would it be possible to pick if all pins were this way?

  • @mynameisyasser
    @mynameisyasser Год назад

    Loved it, absolutely succinct. Nicely made, cool voice

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI 3 года назад

    Very good video if you watch the lockpickig Lawyer and don't know what some of his terminology means!

  • @adsonmoreira7261
    @adsonmoreira7261 4 года назад +2

    Amazing explanation!

  • @drakedbz
    @drakedbz 2 года назад

    One thing not mentioned here is that these may all allow you to use a comb that pushes all the key-pins up past the sheer line entirely. The solution to this that I've seen is to include false chambers in the core, and add wafers to any T pin, such that the key pushes the wafer past the sheer line, protecting the T pin from entering the false chamber, where someone picking this might not get the wafer past the sheer line, allowing the T pin to fall into the false chamber once the rest of the pins are set and the core is rotated. This unfortunately binds the lock, so it would have to be disassembled to be usable again, but it at least keeps the picker out.

  • @douglas1391
    @douglas1391 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video. Succinct. Informative. Lucid.

  • @dave_in_florida
    @dave_in_florida 3 года назад +2

    Now I know what LPL means by overset.

  • @konsul2006
    @konsul2006 3 года назад +1

    Why don't they add serations on both the pin and the barrel that interact with the pins? It would lock the pin better when you tensioning the lock for picking attempts. Looks like they do this at 7:20 looks like a good design.

  • @Error-xl3ty
    @Error-xl3ty 3 года назад

    You are really under rated this is awesome Keep up the good work

  • @omarzed6043
    @omarzed6043 3 года назад

    Exactly what i needed to know and understand, great video 👏

  • @alexanderaphonin7850
    @alexanderaphonin7850 3 года назад +1

    Great explanations, thank you!

  • @michaelandrews2619
    @michaelandrews2619 3 года назад

    Very nicely explained.

  • @AurelienCarnoy
    @AurelienCarnoy 2 года назад

    Steep learning curve.
    Any recommendations on what tools to buy to get in my house door and 2001 f150 truck ? I often forget my keys

  • @AndrewBoundy
    @AndrewBoundy 3 года назад

    Must take a lot of time to do the graphics - but maybe if you're bored, on on raking and fast entry methods would be cool. Awesome video(s). Thanks.

  • @piezaclave393
    @piezaclave393 3 года назад

    A+ video‼️💯
    Btw which software did you use to create this animation ??

  • @-NGC-6302-
    @-NGC-6302- 3 года назад

    Perfect explanations

  • @dfailsthemost
    @dfailsthemost 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome animation

  • @lumensmith9787
    @lumensmith9787 3 года назад

    The security pins in that example lock wouldn’t do much for security. If I’m not mistaken, there is enough space above the shear-line to comb pick that lock.

  • @skoolboy991
    @skoolboy991 3 года назад +13

    gona make it so much easier to follow along with LPL lol

    • @Minecraftrok999
      @Minecraftrok999 3 года назад +4

      Yup, I finally know what counterrotation and false set actually means.
      I watched so many LPL videos in the hope he's gonna explain it somewhere, turns out nahh.

    • @skoolboy991
      @skoolboy991 3 года назад +1

      @@Minecraftrok999 same bro 😂 and yet i still watch all to them lmao.. having no clue what anything means

  • @worroSfOretsevraH
    @worroSfOretsevraH 2 года назад

    Can you transform normal pins into security pins at home by filing?
    Do you have a video on that?
    Thanks.

  • @Loganmaha
    @Loganmaha 3 года назад

    This is the perfect educational video! I love it!

  • @motorv8N
    @motorv8N 3 года назад +2

    Fascinating!

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 3 года назад

    So... you would get the most safe pin tumbler lock by having counter milling in both the chamber and the bible *and* having torpedo keypins and barrel pins on top + mixed strenght springs. However, the *usability of such lock would be pretty bad* because pushing the key in and taking the key off the lock would be really hard because the key stucks every time if the core is not perfectly straight. It might have be even better to have the top pin look like upside down torpedo pin so that the action near the shearline would be similar no matter if the keypin is underset or overset.

  • @pilkjaer
    @pilkjaer 3 года назад

    Brilliant video! Thank you so much for explaining this!

  • @Bob3D2000
    @Bob3D2000 3 года назад

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @Alvekan
    @Alvekan 3 года назад

    Very interesting and enjoyable. Thanks!

  • @elijahevans1191
    @elijahevans1191 2 года назад

    This was very helpful!

  • @SeanCMonahan
    @SeanCMonahan Год назад

    If the spool pin's thin section is already in the shear line to start, could you tell it's a spool because the cylinder will drop into a false set without your having interacted with that pin yet?
    Do they make spools with the thin section shifted down?

  • @veroxid
    @veroxid 3 года назад

    Why aren't the torpedo ones used for pretty much everything? It seems like such a simple way to make picking instantly much harder.

  • @MrLanzac
    @MrLanzac Год назад

    Did you ever make that video on picking torpedo key pins?

  • @Rising_Pho3nix_23
    @Rising_Pho3nix_23 3 года назад +2

    You want to create a secure lock? Make all of them barrel/torpedo pins. Got it.

    • @SifArtorias
      @SifArtorias 3 года назад +1

      tbh, that would probably be enough to make it near impossible to pick. I say that, but the LPL can probably still pick it :P

  • @evasuser
    @evasuser 4 года назад +1

    Because ABUS has a Diskus series of locks, could you please add the word 'detainer' after the disk in the description of 88/40?
    ABUS Diskus may or may not have disk detainer cores.

    • @LockFall
      @LockFall  4 года назад +1

      sure no problem, i added that clarification, thanks for the suggestion!

  • @davidgannon5388
    @davidgannon5388 3 года назад +1

    I'm confused; why would a lock not use all spools? What advantage is there in having one standard pin in the mix?

  • @dirtydishes2148
    @dirtydishes2148 3 года назад

    Great video, easy to understand. Thank you!

  • @Sam_Hue
    @Sam_Hue 2 года назад

    Video title should be called:
    Lockpickinglawyer explained in detail - The sequel

  • @maartenhappel9014
    @maartenhappel9014 11 месяцев назад

    Great! Thnx. Makes a lot of sense.

  • @LinkinPark4Ever1996
    @LinkinPark4Ever1996 3 года назад

    So you just need a pick that pushes up straight all the pins instead of one at a time while rotating? The problem is not all pins set at the same height

  • @TurkVladimir
    @TurkVladimir 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks Great Video Presentation

  • @tednugent1351
    @tednugent1351 3 года назад

    Thank you I always wondered.

  • @kylebeatty7643
    @kylebeatty7643 3 года назад

    Well done. Concise!