Agree, but All Black pundits only ever appear to know All Black players. They rarely name NH players and the possible threats they might bring and rarely give any analysis on the NH opposition. It’s a bit one dimensional compared to NH pundits who in general will present an analysis on both. I suppose it’s the conditioning of years of not caring who the opposition was as the AB’s would likely win, but that’s not a current condition.
Beaver is on it. Looking at those clips vs England, if 9 looks the other way, the outsides have dropped right back. Opportunités to run. Maybe they need a code call to rip it.
It’s a tough ask for the all blacks with this current team, to win the first three games on this tour. They are top class opposition. Can they do it yes. Is it likely no.
Second row got smoked against England earlier in the year without Vaa'i. Doubt the coaches will forget that. Personally would prefer to see Patty in the second row with Vaa'i and Scott Barrett at 6. Though in reality, he may not be dynamic enough as a 6.
The Team is a work in progress - the other coaches are no doubt watching and trying to decipher the direction Razor is pursuing, but it doesn't look as though the AB's have nailed the game plan, but at least they're trying to get there. Each of these tests will be targeting specific areas of improve, as a team as well as individuals. I feel we need to be patient.
@@domcastrobluefool That sounds like a you problem. They're pundits. They share their opinions and they have a personality. You sound like the arrogant one to be honest.
@@AshboNZ86 dont put stuff in people’s mouth. I never talked about Jeff, I’m saying JK arrogantly talks on top of people way too much. That’s my opinion, simple. I’m not “projecting” anything other than my opinion.
Sorry boys, but DMac is not an international 10. He was given the keys in that position throughout most of the domestic international season, but it didn't work. It's time to go back to BB at 10.
I've been saying this for years. Dmac is not a 10. He's only in the conversation due to we desperately need a backup 10 for Mounga. Even if he plays at fullback, it doesn't feel safe playing there. Sometimes he did something big and sometimes he made some errors that could cost us the game. He's truly a double edged sword. Whether you win entirely, or not.
I think it's unfair to bring AB's back for the NPC final if they haven't been involved throughout the campaign. It would be really unfair on the players that have contributed through the season only to sit out the final for AB's that walk straight back in. But it would be cool to have AB's feature in the NPC more but that's unrealistic due to burn out and injuries. The AB's need fresh players for the end of year tours.
Mark my words, 2 losses likely and 3 quite possible on this tour. The All Blacks are wildly inconsistent, impatient and lacking in attention to detail. I am sure these pundits will blow smoke up the back sides of our players, though, ensuring this now 6 year cycle of mediocrity yields no improvement in standards or sense in selection policy. Bravo, Mark Robertson, for your stubborn ignorance to the workings of modern professional sport.
Absolutely not. The English, though they've not played a Test since July, in NZ, did ok down under. They'll be a handful on their own turf with their crowd baying them on.
The Abs got their expected result with the expected margin of victory Don't think too many players put their hands up for selection against England Perhaps W.SITITI All in all i wasn't overly impressed with the ABs performance truth be told Alot to work on still Even after how many weeks of being together? Also England's 1st up tackles need to be good So they can win or/slow the breakdown ball and really pressure the ABs They don't look comfortable in defence and are very prone in making mistakes and panicking when the pressure comes on
Once again something that nobody mentions with the abs…..is the failure to let our youth have ago, Once upon a time we would unleash our newboys . This current selection are winning but by the narrow margins. Youngsters bring enthusiasm and the unexpected, imagine Roydon, sititi, perafita,Procter, love,
That’s not quite true. Yes there has always been the phenomenal talent but there was a psychological element there too. Teams were beaten before they even took the field. They didn’t actually believe they could win.
Myttin da! From this old Ireland supporter. Yer ABs are in the best position they could possibly be. They've played ten Test matches since July. They are tuned-up. Simple as that☘🏴☠
@@Natedawg38 Club rugby, with respect to you, is not International Test rugby. No more the Super Rugby is compareable to playing for an ABs International .
When Ireland went to SA in July, it was their first game since March and the players were at the end of a very long season and yet they played very well. Also, Ireland have not lost in Dublin since they played France in February 2021. I expect Ireland will be fully fired up and ready for the ABs.
So much hate for JK and Goldie but it's really the "fans" who are the ones with the problem there. These guys know and understand the game better than anyone commenting here. They've played at the highest level and they are close to the players and teams and have the inside word at times. You don't need to agree with everything they say but some of the hate, name calling and insults shows how ugly a lot of people are.
The only thing that has been consistent under Razor has been the inconsistency throughout the games in terms of performance. The team has been playing in patches well but overall you get the feeling that they have underperformed. Will be interesting to see if anyone (ie. Proctor) gets a chance to start against one of England, France or Ireland. We learn nothing about the inexperienced players when we see them perform well against Japan or Fiji.
I don't think he's starting England he will be on the bench at best. There's a reason why that squad flew to England early that's your starting team plus a couple from the Japan squad read between the lines 😂
@rugbyanalyst1 no but sititi and Cane are a team players cane has been in our starting team for the longest he was there for leadership, he was going to start against England anyway. Sititi he already had a start spot for England they just wanted to experiment him at 8. The people who were competing for positions are the locks, Tuipulotu put his hand up for selection against England he will likely be on the bench. Alb and proctor I don't think they put their hand up to start as center so one of them will be benching England. The wingers were competing to start England because razor wants Jordan at 15. Dmac got another chance but gave razor another reason to start beaudy due to inconsistency.
Giving young new players only game time at games where doing well to winn and at every bigger country against like roses, books or ireland play older team where played years is nothing solving? Some youth AB also must be implemented in every games.
As already said, England have elevated their game considerably, NZ has to stop thinking their all so special. This female 'reporter ', clearly doesn't understand the History, nor the oral impact of the AB's, reporters like her and what NZ produces, only serve to limit our AB'S.
Well spoken, Tania. Your words are entirely correct, imo. You have excellent peripheral visionj, whilst others continue to look through Black blinkers. Respect to you👍☘🏴☠
@@Londonman564 Thank you for this highly derogatory comment, is that all you can come up with? I suggest you take a dictionary with you and look up words of more than 1 syllable.
@@taniagodwin2138 Yes, it will be absolutely full-on I reckon.. I hope discipline rules emotion and there are no cards, not even a yellow. Easier said, easier hoped for.
Looking forward to all blacks coming to Dublin
Its nice to have "The Breakdown" not so serious.... Good mix of people on this episode. Enjoyable watch!!!
Agree, but All Black pundits only ever appear to know All Black players. They rarely name NH players and the possible threats they might bring and rarely give any analysis on the NH opposition. It’s a bit one dimensional compared to NH pundits who in general will present an analysis on both. I suppose it’s the conditioning of years of not caring who the opposition was as the AB’s would likely win, but that’s not a current condition.
Less gooo boyyysss! This autumn nations series, is our time!!! 🖤🇳🇿
Beaver is on it. Looking at those clips vs England, if 9 looks the other way, the outsides have dropped right back. Opportunités to run. Maybe they need a code call to rip it.
It’s a tough ask for the all blacks with this current team, to win the first three games on this tour. They are top class opposition. Can they do it yes. Is it likely no.
You need to open up the selection rule, because I don't see any other 10s in NZ right now to match Mo'unga or Barrett's skill sets
You're 100% there.
Mo'unga will be back in the mix in the next year or so.
Second row got smoked against England earlier in the year without Vaa'i. Doubt the coaches will forget that. Personally would prefer to see Patty in the second row with Vaa'i and Scott Barrett at 6. Though in reality, he may not be dynamic enough as a 6.
So much nicer and easier to watch without loud arrogant JK
The Team is a work in progress - the other coaches are no doubt watching and trying to decipher the direction Razor is pursuing, but it doesn't look as though the AB's have nailed the game plan, but at least they're trying to get there. Each of these tests will be targeting specific areas of improve, as a team as well as individuals. I feel we need to be patient.
Far more enjoyable minus - with all due respect - the redundant views of JK and Goldie. Neither of those men can analyse the game like Beaver.
So much nicer and easier to watch without loud arrogant JK
@@domcastrobluefool That sounds like a you problem. They're pundits. They share their opinions and they have a personality. You sound like the arrogant one to be honest.
@@AshboNZ86 JK does not share opinions he talks on top of people thinking he is better than the other pundits
@ it sounds like you're projecting. Goldie and JK "arguing" is all part the their schtick. You sound like a hater to be honest 🤷🏽♂️
@@AshboNZ86 dont put stuff in people’s mouth. I never talked about Jeff, I’m saying JK arrogantly talks on top of people way too much. That’s my opinion, simple. I’m not “projecting” anything other than my opinion.
The gate with the Lions on it is called the Lion gate or official “Rose and Poppy” gates in reference to the World war
Barrette needs to be our number 10 again
Sorry boys, but DMac is not an international 10. He was given the keys in that position throughout most of the domestic international season, but it didn't work. It's time to go back to BB at 10.
I've been saying this for years. Dmac is not a 10. He's only in the conversation due to we desperately need a backup 10 for Mounga. Even if he plays at fullback, it doesn't feel safe playing there. Sometimes he did something big and sometimes he made some errors that could cost us the game. He's truly a double edged sword. Whether you win entirely, or not.
DMac has been absolutely terrible
We can see it from here in Australia, D Mac not a 10.
Bring back BB.
Yip, that's where the problem is. I hope they fix it soon
DMac over BB any day.
Do the AB have the Will (jordan ) to win?
I think it's unfair to bring AB's back for the NPC final if they haven't been involved throughout the campaign. It would be really unfair on the players that have contributed through the season only to sit out the final for AB's that walk straight back in. But it would be cool to have AB's feature in the NPC more but that's unrealistic due to burn out and injuries. The AB's need fresh players for the end of year tours.
Angus is a fence sitter, rearly gives an honest anwser
Just when you get rid of one tool in JK... here comes Angus...
Mark my words, 2 losses likely and 3 quite possible on this tour. The All Blacks are wildly inconsistent, impatient and lacking in attention to detail.
I am sure these pundits will blow smoke up the back sides of our players, though, ensuring this now 6 year cycle of mediocrity yields no improvement in standards or sense in selection policy. Bravo, Mark Robertson, for your stubborn ignorance to the workings of modern professional sport.
Obviously, 2 losses will happen if we being honest Ireland and France are better than te all blacks rn
2 losses is likely. 3 is definitely a possibility. I think a 4-1 northern tour would be a huge success.
England should not be taken lightly at home.
Absolutely not. The English, though they've not played a Test since July, in NZ, did ok down under. They'll be a handful on their own turf with their crowd baying them on.
Well done Wellington!!
The Abs got their expected result with the expected margin of victory Don't think too many players put their hands up for selection against England Perhaps W.SITITI All in all i wasn't overly impressed with the ABs performance truth be told Alot to work on still Even after how many weeks of being together? Also England's 1st up tackles need to be good So they can win or/slow the breakdown ball and really pressure the ABs They don't look comfortable in defence and are very prone in making mistakes and panicking when the pressure comes on
Sittiti has for sure put his hand up.
Once again something that nobody mentions with the abs…..is the failure to let our youth have ago, Once upon a time we would unleash our newboys . This current selection are winning but by the narrow margins. Youngsters bring enthusiasm and the unexpected, imagine Roydon, sititi, perafita,Procter, love,
was that a challenge to SA Sir John haha
Theres never been an all blacks aura it was just pure talent. Overseas media made that up. Lets go boys☝🏾🇳🇿🔥 win or lose.
That’s not quite true. Yes there has always been the phenomenal talent but there was a psychological element there too. Teams were beaten before they even took the field. They didn’t actually believe they could win.
No ways nz are ahead of ireland and france ....they are maybe 4 but lose to england and they 5th ..
Myttin da! From this old Ireland supporter. Yer ABs are in the best position they could possibly be. They've played ten Test matches since July. They are tuned-up. Simple as that☘🏴☠
Well a little more warmed up I guess. It will be Irelands first game since June.
Yeah but they've been playing club rugby for 2 months and don't forget - half the team comprises of leinster players.
@@Natedawg38 Club rugby, with respect to you, is not International Test rugby. No more the Super Rugby is compareable to playing for an ABs International .
@@Natedawg38as much as I want to agree with that’.
Club rugby is not international
When Ireland went to SA in July, it was their first game since March and the players were at the end of a very long season and yet they played very well. Also, Ireland have not lost in Dublin since they played France in February 2021. I expect Ireland will be fully fired up and ready for the ABs.
@ they went in July
Key to Wellington win a champion 7s coach he needs to be the all black attack coach….
go the boyz 💪
So much hate for JK and Goldie but it's really the "fans" who are the ones with the problem there. These guys know and understand the game better than anyone commenting here. They've played at the highest level and they are close to the players and teams and have the inside word at times. You don't need to agree with everything they say but some of the hate, name calling and insults shows how ugly a lot of people are.
The only thing that has been consistent under Razor has been the inconsistency throughout the games in terms of performance. The team has been playing in patches well but overall you get the feeling that they have underperformed.
Will be interesting to see if anyone (ie. Proctor) gets a chance to start against one of England, France or Ireland. We learn nothing about the inexperienced players when we see them perform well against Japan or Fiji.
Play Proctor, I reckon. He needs as much Int game time exposure as possible heading towards RWC 2027.
I don't think he's starting England he will be on the bench at best. There's a reason why that squad flew to England early that's your starting team plus a couple from the Japan squad read between the lines 😂
@@KernowekTim Yup I'd play him this weekend against England, Ioane on the wing.
@@EdgarJnrJnr Yea, unlikely for sure. Sititi and Cane started are likely to start again so it's not like no one from the Japan side has a chance.
@rugbyanalyst1 no but sititi and Cane are a team players cane has been in our starting team for the longest he was there for leadership, he was going to start against England anyway. Sititi he already had a start spot for England they just wanted to experiment him at 8. The people who were competing for positions are the locks, Tuipulotu put his hand up for selection against England he will likely be on the bench. Alb and proctor I don't think they put their hand up to start as center so one of them will be benching England. The wingers were competing to start England because razor wants Jordan at 15. Dmac got another chance but gave razor another reason to start beaudy due to inconsistency.
In my opinion the ABs are having a below average session.
So I see us losing both tests . Lol
Pleased to see JK no longer on the panel!
Giving young new players only game time at games where doing well to winn and at every bigger country against like roses, books or ireland play older team where played years is nothing solving?
Some youth AB also must be implemented in every games.
This tour could be the worst for a century.
Pick your overseas players. Come join the Boks in that regard. Sillyness really
jeez cocky all blacks/ I think they are back.
The beginning is just garbage if you mention the score as we only won by 7 points 2 years ago
Scott Hansen, lose brain cells listening to that dude, he puts me to sleep
Once again, I think this panel on this show is dreaming. If they think they are going to beat the Irish 😂
The French snd maybe the English 😂😂
Need subtitles for the weird accent sexaphone?? What's that ?? And who's Jiff ?
As already said, England have elevated their game considerably, NZ has to stop thinking their all so special. This female 'reporter ', clearly doesn't understand the History, nor the oral impact of the AB's, reporters like her and what NZ produces, only serve to limit our AB'S.
Well spoken, Tania. Your words are entirely correct, imo. You have excellent peripheral visionj, whilst others continue to look through Black blinkers. Respect to you👍☘🏴☠
@KernowekTim Cheers my friend, thank you! It's going to be one hell of a game🤗
It's called confidence you silly Tart up the ABs 🇳🇿
@@Londonman564 Thank you for this highly derogatory comment, is that all you can come up with? I suggest you take a dictionary with you and look up words of more than 1 syllable.
@@taniagodwin2138 Yes, it will be absolutely full-on I reckon.. I hope discipline rules emotion and there are no cards, not even a yellow. Easier said, easier hoped for.
Beaver our national hero? Give it a break the bloke was Overrated 🤦