AI and the Paradox of Self-Replacing Workers | Madison Mohns | TED
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- As companies introduce AI into the workplace to increase productivity, an uncomfortable paradox is emerging: people are often responsible for training the very systems that might displace them. AI ethics advocate Madison Mohns presents three leadership principles to embrace technological progress while prioritizing your coworkers' well-being - paving the way for a future where AI enhances human potential.
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This talk could have been summarized in one sentence: "Let the AIs replace you, and help them replace others because you'll surely find something else to do once you're replaced"
That does seem to be what all the LLM people are saying, yet none of them have the vaguest of ideas as to what these miracle jobs might look like. "trust me bro" is the best they can come up with.
It sucks, but we have to admit at some point. The technology has been invented and no one can stop the evolution. Just like when the steam engine comes out to the world. The new technologies can make many people losing their jobs, but after, we will have a better life. At least for our next generation…
Wow, what a horrible conclusion.
But it's unfortunately true, under capitalism at least.
she talks like an AI, buzz-word-salad
@@Ryan-_-Kim imagine everyone believe ai will take over and quit all their jobs tomorow. that would be amazing! haha
The problem has never been technological innovation but rather who benefits from those innovations. Under our current organization of the economy, such innovations will always be used to displace workers in order to decrease wage related expenses and increase profits. This serves to overall stifle the desire to pursue innovation because it always comes with the implication that it will replace workers. The economy needs to be reorganized in a way where workers have more say in all aspects of the enterprise, whether it be through unions, co-ops, etc.
I can not stress how I agree with you completely. The problem is not in our ability to recognize the systems we are in, we can be endlessly verbal about them and so what... I have a saying: From 4k years we have written everything about decency, From Chinese thinkers to Plato to Hitch and Zizek to be comically terse. DFW gave it a mighty whack...and what have change exactly at the top of power structures/ religious structures? We are bombarded every day that this leader is a pedophile, that leader is a war lord, that one is a liar, in every sphere of activity... We are fucked and no amount of speaking about it will change anything for us at the bottom...
I would say that in the end we all should benefitntnhe end. The question is at what cost and how many people will go under during this big change. If this technology will really change society on sereral levels how the industrial revolution did, we all will be affected.
Look at “futurist” videos from the 1950’s, predicting an utopian future where everyone would have their needs taken care of with only a ten-hour workweek because of automation. Of course, that didn’t happen, but a lot of people ended up with zero-hour workweeks due to automation, with corresponding zero-dollar paychecks.
Really down playing AI capabilities. Corporate greed doesn't care about saving a position for you. Add that with AI, which doesn't have needs or compassion.
Yeah I was like she is downplaying what AI can do NOW. Not talking about what it will do 2 years from now. The title should be: How to manage your teams anxiety and possibly keep them a bit longer.
ai is cheap… workers are expensive.
@@closerrl9851Ai is dogshit right now, it is not yet a disruptor and just minimizes repetitive inefficiencies, in like 10 years it will be very good though.
100%. And once every other team has their AI capabilities up and running, you have a network that'll replace everyone - all you need then is a few to keep them running and some others to upgrade. No company has any interest other than its bottom line - that includes "additional training" for employees. Asking for transparency on AI at this juncture is like asking congress to pass a bill.
@@Betweoxwitegan It's already replacing jobs, right now. These changes are happening. right. now. Maybe not in your workplace, but certainly in others.
Funny how they never offer up AI replacing management. You know the one occupation that should literally be data driven. Anyway just a thought, have a nice day.
There was a curious old black-and-white episode of The Twilight Zone about that happening at a factory... Eventually the president himself was also deemed obsolete.
Eventually they'll run out of people to replace and start cannibalising themselves.
@@justinklenk Eventually implies the president is replaced last, why not first?
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Somehow this format feels more like a sales pitch than a TED talk…
"I get to go to my trusted team, who i've worked with for years, look them in the eyes and pitch them on training the very systems that might displace them."
That part....
I recommend Michael Moore’s first movie, “Roger & Me,” in which Detroit auto workers are introduced via corporate propaganda to their “buddies” - the robots that would soon replace them on the assembly lines.
This is not a paradox but a dilemma.
It is a little bit of a paradox. Because people want to have jobs, but they also want to be innovative and improve. Can't have both without sacrificing the other; thus a paradox. A dilemma would be more along the lines of desiring x but y is getting in the way. Often to do with ethical issues, like slavery. If the employer uses slaves, they would have a better bottom line, however they'd be morally bankrupting themselves while doing so.
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I appreciated the point of that rebuttal, but I do believe he was correct in his distinction, there - this IS a moral/ethical dilemma, for us, going forward, which we must address rationally, intelligently, humanely - whereas a paradox is where there are 2 (seemingly) mutually-exclusive things that are, mysteriously, somehow yet true at the same time.
So training an AI at the cost of your own resulting obsolescence is actually not paradoxical at all - one actually results in the other. But to do so becomes a human quandary - this whole issue of how to then continue to keep everyone both receiving an income; and active + involved in their own society; and having the self-esteem and sense of personal value that exists with actually _being_ of value. 👍
Yeah there's no paradox here, but people will do mental backflips to avoid addressing moral dilemma's "i was just doing my job!" when they know they are wrong.
AI and machines replacing workers is inevitable. What needs to change is the need for people to work to survive.
We should work towards phasing out jobs and money, whilst phasing in automation of jobs. The only elegant solution is a UBI for every citizen, funded by a robot tax.
UBI wont work. People always desire more, to be better than others, to have power over others. Left unchecked you get people who will take over the world. Just look at the likes of Bezos.
Perhaps the way to solve the problems is to give everyone equity in the company. That way, even if people are replaced, they end up with greater rewards.
The only way you can do this is to buy shares in it; invest as early and as often as you can.
Sadly I don't think tech bros are thinking about what they SHOULD do, instead they are focused on how much they COULD or CAN do
humans have also half the world live under the poverty line and even in the first world is faced with many problems. Also never in our known history, have we faced the kind of technological advancement, which mind you, isnt bad, but it requires a complete rethinking of what kind of economic system should be introduced
We desperately need a worker/consumer co-op economy and strong unions.
It's a decent talk, but the real paradox is that modern US companies won't care about training people to take on the new jobs, so what we will see is a mass layoffs, followed by years of companies' complaining about labor shortages, while those with enough money take night classes to retrain for the new positions and those without money just starve and lose everything.
You can take free courses on AI from google and multiple other providers and great AI subject matter experts who literally currently provide this info for free until it becomes monetized - people just have to keep their eyes open in this ever changing crazy world
“Arxhitects of our own progress “
and in turn architect’s of our own demise
When they say don’t worry about it , you should be worried . They just want an easy transition you out replacement in less work for them if your doing your own job elimination
I don't know about AI taking jobs, but a 60-second AI summary of this video would be nice.
Re-skilling might allow you to hang on to 25% of your current team but that's an example of the law of diminishing returns. And what about the other 75%?
Companies usually take the route of reducing costs over finding ways to utilize what they have better, as it's a simpler process. Why let people work less hours to do the same amount of work when you can force less employees to do even MORE work because they are under more threat of unemployment?
It's a downward spiral that corporations cannot resolve as they have no interest in resolving it, quite the opposite. The only way things will improve is if institutional changes force them to. Good luck with that as long as the Corporations pull the strings on governments. These companies will not invest a single cent in retraining/repurposing the people they discard and its getting really tiresome hearing these ivory tower people from silicon valley who are willfully ignorant of how the world works and how people (especially those in power) work.
Tax the AI jbs at 500% of ten times the salaries of displaced workers. Then use the taxes for UBI.
We seriously need UBI and UBH.
yes, we're heading towards it. It's inevitable.
Whose going to pay for that? Large corporations have already demonstrated they are willing to move around the globe in order to dodge taxes so unless you get world wide agreement (HA) it's not going to happen.
I don't know maybe she need to change her tone because all i heard was "we can replace people more slowly so they don't catch on to our plans😁
As it looks, you either upgrade your skills or get replaced....its not getting any better
The rate of upgrading ones skills, inevitably, will be outpaced by accelerating AI/AGI progress. Thus it isn't a viable solution to the looming economic crisis.
Isn’t the core of the problem, private ownership? The benefits of labour accrue to individuals, but the benefits of capital accrue to concentrations of shareholders. This is a simple consequence of a society that privatizes the benefits of progress. While there has been a delicate equilibrium, the exponential amplification of AI annihilates this balance creating a paradox. I suppose that leaves two options: either nationalize private property into public utilities and public services for social benefit, or democratize ownership so all individuals receive a private benefit from the advances of technological progress. To me they functionally amount to the same outcome, which is sharing prosperity widely, instead of concentrating it narrowly.
This is the crux of the problem. Unfortunately the US will have one of the hardest transitions in this post-labor future because we are one of the most raw capitalist countries in the world. The social upheaval is going to be brutal until we all finally come to your conclusion and find leaders who act accordingly.
The main problem is that tech, AI and Robotics will kill the economy by making bussiness and the economy to become stagnant because the very few have a jobs and a large part of society will have no the money and no jobs to buy the products businesses produce and sell that will causing a major recession around the world. you can see this has already happened around the world where large companies that a towns depended on closed down leaving these town to become ghost towns because there was no money and no jobs for these towns to survive and thrive. this is what Ai will do to our world in the future killing business opportunities in the future unless you remove people from the population will this business idea and model actually work. due to the fact Ai and Robotics has the potential of replacing a large section of the work force and reducing these jobs is economic suicide for businesses.
Just so everyone knows, she's "an AI Product Manager at Indeed, where I have the privilege of leading our AI Strategy for the Taxonomy and Ontology team." (from her linkedin profile)
She deals in AI ethics. So she's 100% the person we want to pay attention to and talk about this subject. She'll probably be one of the people helping us keep our jobs when AI goes after them lol
This camera work and lighting is really distracting 😒 It hurts the impact of the subject matter… (unless the cameras were run by an A.I. 😏)
Cool vid. How long before we get an Ai TedTalk?
You could make one now if you wanted to.
The positive/earnest effort she made here - just to fail to make anything more than a naive, non-novel point - really underscores the extent of the problem we're facing here, as individuals and as a society: that there's an unavoidable ecological collapse we're facing, as long as (most) anyone/everyone who doesn't _themselves_ become an effective leverager of AI, instead becomes a nonfunctioning liability, economically and socially.
As a critical/creative thinker myself, I yet recognize and appreciate the need for, and the role of, ALL those who will never themselves be critical/creative thinkers. (...And why should a human HAVE to be, in the grand ecology of a society - ?)
How do you know that you are a critical thinker??? You sound more like a pessimist.
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I think critically because I value the clear advantage and cognitive leverage of doing so - you should have gathered that from reading my comment, of course; but that's on you to recognize or fail to recognize.
And I'm far from a pessimist - which also would be clear, had you paid attention to the entirety of what I said. I'm a realist and an optimist; I see a _reason_ in _hope._ 👍
@@justinklenk ohh now I know it's a real person I thought RUclips had some ai bots commenting. Hi Justin
At this time you can tell by her expression trying to be upbeat on Ai but really knows the true impact.
i feel like ai will be a tool just like any other that pushes people forward. automation hurts jobs initially, but it’s a net positive
Ok, what is the goal of automation. Is it so it van be a tool? No. But will people do whatever it can to further human kind until it cant? Ofc. Unless, having all needs met drains our curiosity. What your saying is a bit weird but ur thinking is good. Going into an idea economy is still an economy.
Ai is not going to be like other tools. It is going to make tools and plans and innovations that humans are incapable of.
Alpha zero was given only the rules of chess and, after four hours of self play, it was the best chess player known to man. It beat Magnus Carlsen at about two hours.
Their intellectual performance is going up exponentially snd human's is nearly flat. What other tool we have made looks like that?
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Ai is a black box, car production lines aren't.
Unfortunately the easy availability of this tech is going to create new companies and the companies themselves may not survive. Google is struggling because of a relatively new company, open Ai. In future these Ai companies will become like Amazon... Only these Ai companies will be selling services as products. Those using it now are unknowingly helping these companies..
TLDR: tech always displaced jobs. But people found new ones.
The paradigm is different. Generative ai has come in overnight and very soon will replace highly skilled jobs that took a person years to learn.
I also with with AI and I think the future is quite bleak for skilled labor.
And we came to the point where TED has become an HR forum...
Not saying HR shouldn't have forums, but I don't get why they have to get the tech forums, why not make their own "HR talk"? just because AI mentioned?
Similarly, Reuben Clamzo knowingly put himself out of work when he clampooned the last Giant Clam
the problem is that 80% of the people I know don't study. So if they don't study something new, their jobs will disapear and they won't know how to work in the new ones.
I know this is not going to be a popular take… but the reality is AI is coming for our jobs whether we like it or not and this does offer a a pragmatic approach to how we handle it. There’s more that needs to be done to safeguard jobs but this feels like a sensible first step
Tell that to the 200k just axed employees of silicon valley
AI is a tool to replace exceptionally bad employees but it’s mostly not used properly (sadly AI can’t replace bad employers)
This will be an interesting one.
Thanks for your opinion, I agreed and scrapped this video!
Talk about a dystopian future.
Maybe and just maybe ai will replace any job and not just some jobs...
I dont want to need to work to be able to live, i want to be free
One definition of AI is an omniscient consultant, similar to the business consulting companies that executives turn to now for help with strategy and implementation. One of the major uses of consultants is for downsizing and planning layoffs to minimize business disruption and maximize cost savings. One of the first jobs companies will give AI is to take job descriptions and resumes provided by employees, feed them into an algorithm, and develop a plan for eliminating as many employees as possible. I see this all headed to a critical point of inflection where companies have few human employees, but also few customers able to buy their products, because everyone has been laid off by the bots. Where does capitalism go from there?
It's like a star, which, having burned up enough of its fuel, finally collapses under its own weight, becoming a black hole.
I love the irony that consulting firms who specialize in laying off other companies workforce are perfectly suited to being fully replaced by AI.
Yes this is power
This was a great talk! There’s a lot more FUD in the comments than deserved, but I suppose that’s the point.
no slides? wtf
Is Ai Dangerous for us ?
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I lost a tickle fight. :(
Wow, anyone can get a TED talk these days, eh? My horse is available. He can discourse probably a little more relevantly on whether he can be replaced with AI or not. He's all for it. Just give him more hay.
Does she realise the job of a middle manager will also be automated by Ai within 5yrs.
Workers should be able to buy robots to replace their own job and make money for them.
Instant thumbs down. We cannot afford to lose more jobs. AI should only be used as a resource, not a mechanism to replace human workers.
They don't consider you human beings, they think of you in terms of human capital stock.
Consider this. Suppose you had an AI that could do your job for you, bring you your current income and more so that you could go about doing anything that you wanted to do, essentially retire early. Would you accept that AI? Well, that's exactly what could happen if the correct economic policies are put in place, policies that are a far cry from the capitalism we currently have.
One of the first mindsets that have to change is this infatuation we have with jobs for job sake. The focus should be on creating a system that values human well-being over mere economic productivity, ultimately leading to a more equitable and fulfilling society.
The problem is there is alot of bullshit jobs that AI can replace.
Let's always do alot of good 🔥
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All these positive AI videos are super gaslighty. Oh, we get to delegate the parts of our jobs that we hate - until AI can do the rest of our job as well.
Welcome to what the middle class has been fighting up against for the past century...
At the moment She says. Replace, that's the big problem. That thing AI should ask; wait a second, why does this person ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET have no banking report. Let me DO something. oh! I see. Check your e-mail. NOW
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Not this time.
Wishful thinking... AI is a tool and it makes work faster, like the car before made an entire industry of horse drawn/powered transportation obsolete in 2 decades... all that jobs lost, this time AI will make mundane task automated and hopefully workers in the future are more equipped to have skill sets that would still make them valuable in the job market of the future.
I wrote this comment with the help of AI. Soon, AI will be able to write comments without my help.
lmao leave it to execs to take until 2024 to realize they need to be paying attention to the AI industry
The way she is looking around at a imaginary crowd is really distracting. Extremely unnatural, almost AI like :-)
AI can't become clients, therefore it can't set requirements for quality. As long as humans consume each other's products, only humans can qualify a quality, therefore in the end, we're going to be scrutinizing AI's work with ever increasing scrutiny, even if the AI's ability far exceeds our own, until AI start becoming clients of eachother - at which point, the income tax generated by AI could sustain Universal Basic Income, allowing most of us enough emotional fortitude to care for the planet, instead of surviving inflation.
Have you paid attention at all to how much tax billionaires typically pay? because the profits from AI will go into the hands of billionaires, and they will continue to do exactly what they do now.
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Let AI end all the slavery, let them report to the bosses.
When no human is employed, no one in unemployed, so finally we all will be free of any expectations and societal pressure. Finally, we will be able to do whatever we always wanted to do. Hail AI!
Yes please!!
The people who control AI will enslave the rest of humanity. There are grim times ahead and the possibility of world wars/uprisings as the populace get desperate, making the current problems in the US look like a walk in the park.
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If only this TED talk had taken place back in the 2020s.
Oh.🫢