The Point: Political meritocracy in China
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What's driving the worsening demonization of China? Why is it not a problem that China has not become more like the West? What is China in terms of the political system? Is China a democracy?
Guest: Prof. Daniel A. Bell, dean, School of Political Science and Public Administration of Shandong University.
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As a Brit who has lived in numerous countries, and is now living in China, I can't think of a better run country than China to raise my daughter. The government here serves the people and I am an eye witness to 12 years of exceptional governance as is continually being demonstrated by China's miraculous handling of the COVID19 pandemic, poverty alleviation, and the building of world leading infrastructure. Thank you for keeping me and family safe.
@High School Teacher Learn some manners!
@High School Teacher So rude!
@batios 997 Thankyoufor the truth
Unfortunately, due to language and cultural difference the majority of western people still thinks and believe negativity on China.
The west is so brainwashed and corrupt. They have been dishonest for as far as I have been alive. Adults in the US still don't understand china or the east in 2021.
It's nothing but jealousy of the West. Love to China from neighbouring Nepal.
Nepal is China's brother.
@@user-ix7uc2ct6q Nepal is in mess.
@@sadayarana6419 I hope Nepal and China can work together more and more.
@@user-ix7uc2ct6q Nepal could develop easily provided India, Nepal and China could work together.
If you have any one interested in this field who can help, that would be appreciated
@@sadayarana6419 OK, I will keep an eye out for the cooperation.
It's well known in the US that politicians spend +50% of their time calling people for political donations. This has two obvious problems - 1. They are spending less then half their time governing 2. This places the politicians in the debt of their largest donors, who write the legislation that get introduced.
The US system was carefully designed this way.
The bankers back-door.
China can't even feed their own people without help from the USA and our allies.
@@sambam215 where have you been? You better wake up!
@@belltolltothee261 I lived in China for nearly 3 years, I am wide awake.
@@sambam215 3 years and still learnt nothing ....
Right to fresh food, clean water, right to warm protective housing, right to live, right to free health care, right to free education, right to free social support. That would be cool
I agree. But due to the large populations China and even India have a lot more work to do. Not easy.
And right to love muslim, blacks and China despite of differences.
I've been to China and it lags far behind New Zealand in all the things you mentioned. As a New Zealander, I hope that's what you mean. Yes, education in China is free, as it is in most countries. The trouble with Chinese education is, its directed by the CCP so glosses over all their crimes and missteps of the past 90 years. And health care ? They still believe Chinese traditional medicine is a viable alternative to Western medicine and is even practiced in hospitals giving the patient false hope. I've seen it.
@@matthewmorgan7106 How many people are there in New Zealand ? Has New Zealand ever involved in any wars over the past 200 years? The size of New Zealand cultivate areas?
@@lisa.e5776 look it up on Wikipedia
In the west, one person one vote - but the person they vote for is actually working for the one who gave him/her the most $$$$$$.
And the people standing for election can have zero education & be as dumb as a donkey, but still become president - e.g. trump.
Lets admit it, election is expensive process for the state and for the candidate. Donors are needed and the candidate owed that favour to the donors...
@@burung81 Of course, and it shouldn't be expensive. Plus it relies on media hypnotism. Otherwise say if the party I vote doesn't work for the people than I won't vote for them again. But most people in the west are hypnotised by the media & they keep voting for people who don't work for them.
And that is called corruption. The usa is the most corrupt country in the planet.
CHINA RISE IS JUST TOO GREAT N BEAUTIFUL FOR THE CHINESE 1.4+ BILLION
PEOPLE LAST 40+ YEARS.
It would have been 70 years except Mao Zedong tried to kill the culture along the way. Approximately 80 million died over 2 generations because of Communist policies. Its all happening again under Xi Jinping. This man is leading China to hell.
China's rise is based on democracy. They lost most of the progress they have made recently..... and will not recover. Sad. Their desire to control is their undoing.... especially since communism is their main problem. There seems to be no cure. That's probably for the best for all concerned.
@@matthewmorgan7106 You're a village fool. First of all where did you find those numbers? Yes, Mao Tse Tung may have had a some misguided policies that didn't help, but it was the US who banned exports of grains to China when they saw them in desperate need of food that caused a few millions to die. This is all on the US!
@@pinchmesh2856 You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@kickyouinhalf I know its impossible to present facts to someone who is brainwashed and hateful but here they are anyway.
Approximately 80 million people did die and every one of them is because of Mad Mao's policies. It is true the US did not donate any grain to China during the worst part of the famine, unlike Australia and Canada. The reason the US did not donate any grain was because the CCP were trying to co-opt Vietnam and pressuring it to fight the US, who were in the beginning stages of their inglorious war in Vietnam. The point is though ... and you must come to terms with this fact, Mao Zedong caused all the catastrophes China endured for 30 years. The man may have united China but he also defeated the only other group (Kuomintang led by Chiang Kai-Shek) who could have averted the disastrous communist mis- management of China, which continues to this day. And before you say the CCP pulled China up from poverty, it was them who put China there in the first place ! Only when they realised communism was rubbish, did they allow a market economy, thanks to Deng. The only thing the CCP have kept from their defeat of the Kuomintang is their brutal authoritarian control. Why? so they can continue to steal from the Chinese people ! Asshole.
In China political leaders from Engineering where as America mostly Lawyers and Businessman. Hence, in China you built infrastructure and for the people whereas in America you work for the rich and policy for the big corporations.
Yeah build infrastructure that falls apart in 10 years. I lived in Shenzhen for nearly 3 years and there were buildings that were less then 20 years old starting to crack at the foundation. Not just a few, half or more of the buildings I saw. Build it cheap and fast with super low quality materials. That is Chinese infrastructure.
Only the rich can afford lawyers.
@@pooi-hoongchan8680 I'm not rich but I can afford a lawyer. If someone doesn't have the money the court gives you one for free. Our courts are also fair and made up of our peers who decide your guilt. Not like the CCP party officials who just give what ever punishment he wants unless they bribe him. The Rich just get away with crime in China.
@@sambam215 You can say it any way you want but China is the most successful country in the 21 st century that is the bottom line.
Democracy is a popular vote it has nothing to do with experience or merits. It’s whoever has more propaganda money and more publicity wins.
what about freedom of speech?
@@u235u235u235 , what about it? China’s Constitution protects freedom of speech, unless you are inciting political and social upheaval.
@@wadepo1 LOL that's not true. they have laws preventing critical speech against the govt.
and who decides what's "inciting" is a wide field and there is the problem.
china doesn't even allow citizens to search the internet normally. chinese citizens can't use facebook, youtube, instagram, etc. how is that freedom of speech?
@@u235u235u235 , so what? They have a duty to their people to keep the country stable and safe, or I guess you would prefer they collapse into chaos.
Democracy :- if you have 100 people voting for 5 senarios,
19 vote for 1,
20 vote for 2,
20 vote for 3,
20 vote for 4
21 vote for 5,
79 of the people must accept what the 21 voted for against their wishes.
Brexit referendun 51.89% for Leave to 48.11% Remain. Therefore less than 2% decide for almost half of the country.
The first thing that struck me about China was how different China is from the idea I had of it. 10 days in China and I only think of going back. From Canada
Naive ..
@@walidaichi2927 The naif is the one who speaks without having seen.
@@jeanleveille5319
I have seen more than what you think .. if you think 10 days are enough to understand a country , you are then so delusional ..
@@walidaichi2927 You talked like a Trumpist..
@@walidaichi2927 From the amount of research I have done regarding China .. thought it was only those 10 days that shaped my hold up, that's ridiculous. But these 10 days confirmed that it is really pleasant to visit China and I am going back there in December. It is the most interesting country on the planet and the Chinese are charming.
I'm from the US and I love your show! China is presenting an alternative to a rapidly collapsing western world.
The guest interviewee made some insightful comments that are useful for leaders in China as well as other countries. Some western countries' rigidity and dogma will continue to harm their social and economic progress. When a country thinks its political and economic system is the best and everyone elses' systems are trash and evil, such arrogance will impede progress.
This is more true with china .. the west is an open society where you can hear and read different forms of critisism to the current system .. while in china is a totalitarian regime where no freedom of expression and no critisism is allowed ..
USA does it for world domination period.
Stop it. USA does not really want China to be like the USA. Can you imagine how powerful China would be if China develops like the USA. Look at Singapore, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. USA would not be the ultimate hegemon. USA must demonize China and slow it’s growth.
I thought China had said that she isn't bothered with the internal political system of other country and they shouldn't likewise interfere with China's internal policy which should be decided by the Chinese people themselves!
On the subject of corruption, several years ago I travelled from HK to Shenzhen by car, at the border checkpoint, it took us 30 minutes before we can enter China. My HK friend told me that there were many CCTVs installed, and they were pointed and used to monitor the government border officials to catch bad characters. The corruption eradication effort goes down to the lowest level!
Wonderful!
You focus too much on something it is everywhere around the World, even in your work place for sure!!!!! But, but what to afraid? Only those trouble makers comment that they feel exhausted crossing the check points.
This is fighting corruption at all level, be it flies or tigers...
IT IS OK TO LOVE CHINA! 中国加油！
For those who still have such negative images about China, you should at least go to China once and see it for yourself before you judge or believe anything that western media says ! China is changing compare to 20 years ago, same as everyone is fighting for better self , China is fighting for a better country , Chinese work harder than anyone else to get to this success today ! that's why China's raising is unstoppable. Because all Chinese love their own country and proud to be a Chinese !
The Germans thought the same thing when the Nazis took control. History has taught us they were being misled by people who controlled the narrative. Major crimes were committed by the Nazis to try and make Germany dominant in Europe. EXACTLY the same thing is happening in China and it will have to live with the shame and humiliation for generations to come. Ask the Germans about this.
@@matthewmorgan7106 LOL stay where you are
@@MrBlinder514 Fine. This time we won't need to go to war to preserve freedom, as I have a sense China will simply implode under the weight of its own hysteria and fanaticism, fuelled by perverted social science and the round of current crimes being sponsored by The CCP. Nazis 2.0
@@matthewmorgan7106 Germany is a different story. Germans have war genes in their blood (maybe eat too much knuckles?), even before the advent of Nazis, Germans had been invading, on a regular basis, almost all of its neighbours. The root cause is not Nazi, but the warmongering nature of Anglo-Saxon races. Germany now seems to be a very peaceful nation, because it has been castrated.
The Chinese nation is peaceful in nature, not like you guys. Thanks.
@@matthewmorgan7106 "China will simply implode under the weight of its own hysteria and fanaticism"
This remark is indeed more than hilarious.
Look at the incompetence of the western governments and a system of impunity for western politicians throughout this pandemic, I think your argument makes sense by simply replacing China as the EU.
Thank you, I am a Canadian history student majoring in Chinese history. This has been a very informative video.
@Siceli Puoltana , how do you expect me to respond to something so stupid?
@Siceli Puoltana , stop wasting people’s time. Get a life.
@Siceli Puoltana , what are you, a 12 year old? Who do you think you’re impressing? You’re a mosquito. Get squashed.
You poor soul.
The enemy of political meritocracy is democracy: people choose whoever please them, not those who work for their interest.
At least we can choose unlike your goverment ban everything lol.
@Tian Wong Ban anime and censored sexy cartoon genius.
@Tian Wong Instead of educating little child you ban it hah shows how incompetent are china.
@Tian Wong I play COD since i was a child i just growing up fine.If people just take alternatives instead banning everything like a facist.
@Tian Wong Fyi i love china people met many chinese gamer with a great attitude inlike your goverment boomer party offended by everything like winnie the pooh.
Wow Napoleon was on point when he said let the Dragon Sleep. China just lectured America on how to conduct international diplomacy, America's human rights violations and its behavior unbecoming of a superpower. Meanwhile in England we are fighting over what's been said about the royal family on American TV. Go China respect from England motherland of two blondes (Bojo and trumpy).
You've lived up to your name...
Human rights violations huh? ruclips.net/video/hfkXSNo6jAg/видео.html
They treat the Uyghurs so great right?
@@sambam215 And you "know" that from where?
@@sambam215 !0The trade war failed 2) The sanction backfired 3)USA can't even stop criminals from RIOTING & Looting 4) Coronavirus is USA patent 4) After WW2 the USA can't even improve it's infrastructure 5) Instigating Civil unrest FAILED to take down China's economy 6) Every War USA started failed and a waste of tax payer's money 7) there's more homeless today than all previous years put together!! 8) Now USA resort to point finger into Xinjiang since they can't instigate another unrest in Hong Kong 9) USA is littered with criminals and lawlessness But still stick it's nose in other countries business and DICTATE how they should rule and run their country 10) Pointing fingers at others but not how USA themselves GENOCIDE the Native American INDIANS PATHETIC
@@dennislee121 Nice Chinese propaganda there robot. You can bring up "genocide" all you want, but those are things from 200+ years ago. Your country is doing that shit right now. Don't worry, the developing world realized that what goes around comes around and we are through it. China will see soon. They are making the same mistakes today that Westerners made 100 years ago. Hope your family is safe when it happens.
Thank you for the show. Very infromative
EXCELLENT PRESENTSTION . THANK YOU FIR THIS INTERVIEW.
Thank you for this informed and intelligent interview. No wonder the UK Gov has to boot CGTN out of the UK. In contrast, BBC’s bad mannered HardTalk doesn’t allow its interviewee to talk unless the response is consistent with that of the interviewer.
Dan BELL’s insightful comparison of political systems between the West and China reminds me of Kishore MALBUHANI. I look toward to CGTN to promote a conversation jointly with BELL and MAHBUHANI together.
Excellent guest! It's great that there is only one excellent guest on this one show. Sometimes, Chinese media (and Russian media) like to emulate the "balanced" approach used in the West by having 2-3 guests and it just dilutes the the focus and intensity of the topic.
Professor Bell is so impressive! Thanks for the insightful interview👍
to cover up their incompetence, scapegoat others especially if one consider their nation Exceptional.
@Wood floor It's about time the world learns about how modern China was founded: Millions killed by Mao, yet you refuse to teach it in schools or admit it.
@@theowl2044 Mao did many crazy things in China. For example, he asked people to cut down lots of trees and many areas in the north of China have turned to desserts which has caused huge environmental problems. Another very wicked thing he did was that of cultural revolution which many people were punished and sent to the countryside and many young people lost their education. The question is why is it that people in China do not talk about these bad things which Mao had done.
@@zhangruyi3153 That's exactly my question. Well, we all know why.
@@zhangruyi3153 It comes from the cult of personality that was built around him that doesn't allow such flaws to be seen. Same thing's happening today with Xi Jinping. It's a communist thing that needs to die, along with communism.
@Wood floor HAHAHA genocide is when it's your own people, you know, like what Mao did to his own people. It's estimated 12 million natives died because of European settlers between 1492 and 1900. (USA founded in 1776) Okay how about China? 20-50 million people killed between the years 1958-1962. We don't even know how many were killed on purpose or just starved to death. FOUR YEARS. The CCP killed that many people in only 4 years. That's just the ones we know about. The fact that you can even remotely compare that to the US history is asinine.
Seriously, besides our wanting to draw logical conclusions, the anti China rhetoric has but one visceral reason - envy.
@Handsome Hobo lmao, another ignoramus who is pretending that the US doesn't mind being number 2.... How dreadful to be in your shoes right now...
Envy of what ??
@@walidaichi2927 envy that Westerners can remain in slumber as the guillotine falls down. It amazes that you lot think nothing has changed when everything has.
@Handsome Hobo yeah, you continue to take your slum dwellings and homeless population and PRETEND that it's great. Us Asians are outta your BS. We see through the decrepitude ffs!
@@abc-hi6df you said nothing meaningful .. jealousy of what exactly ?? .. china is still lagging behind almost in every aspect compared to the west .. thats why chinese still immigrate to the west ..
It rattles the US team in Alaska that most of them got to where they are for political reasons and patronage while the Chinese team members had to prove themselves.
The US has done more in 300 years then China has in 5000.
@@sambam215 Yes, America is doing its upmost to maintain and advance the Anglo-Saxon goals.
@@sambam215 but, America has not created a social system/culture that allow the nation to sustain and grow. and that Culture/social system is the highest technology human being may acquire. that technology took one of the smartest people on earth 5000 years to practice and perfect. it is the foundation for everything else.
@@sambam215 The USA is LITTERED with criminals and TOTAL LAWLESSNESS .
@@dennislee121 Yeah and I lived in China for years. All the back alley "massage" places that are fronts for prostitution. All owned by criminal organizations controlled by the CCP. Chinese "Law" is whatever serves the CCP at the moment. Like stealing peoples property to build new buildings, or taking peoples motorbikes because it makes the city look poor. All things I witnessed in Shenzhen personally. How about the "Corruption Campaign" Xi Jinping ran? Just put all of his political rivals in prison so no one can go against his will. Your entire country is being controlled by a handful of people who have the rest of the country held at the end of a gun. I guess you would say "It's worth it for order" but you wouldn't know because Chinese people haven't experienced true freedom. You only have one perspective, I have two. I've lived in both systems, although yours might seem like order, one crack and it all falls apart. Just like the USSR did, just like the Qing Dynasty did when they showed weakness. Let me tell you, the CCP is going to cause nothing but heart ache biting the hands that fed her. Once they lose the mandate of heaven chaos will emerge again. It's been a cycle in Chinese history for 5000 years.
I love your channel and I love the Chinese People .. it is hard to watch all the propaganda .. thank you for keeping it real ..
“It is good if we are attacked [slandered] by the enemy since it proves we have drawn a clear line of demarcation between the enemy and ourselves. It is still better if the enemy attacks us wildly and paints us as utterly black and without a single virtue; it demonstrates that we have...achieved a great deal in our work.” -Chairman Mao
Great in depth explanation by Prof Bell. Many thanks i have learnt a lot.
This is the real modern day China
Truly an extraordinary nation full of great people , mutual help and massive manufacturing
Come on , you know it's TRUE
However , Pompeo does not approve this message
You're very welcome
Sincerely
From the AWESOME TRUTH REVOLUTION
@High School Teacher
Just like you
Pompeo is a liar a cheat and a thief - that's what he taught in CIA
@High School Teacher
With an incapacitated statement like that , the AWESOME one pitys your students
How do you define massacre?
Daniel Bell is very insightful... he should do a podcast
Great interview my sincere respect for both of china so far doesn't have to do any different what it's doing right now keep going on the same path you guys are doing great
What USA wants: 1 world, 1 system - the USA system only.
What China wants: 1 world, many systems.
Current state of affair: One world, 2 systems.
Fantastic interview here with an impressive grasp of Chinese culture and history. We need more like this
Good Job and Fully Support to China ! Bravo to China, be Strong and be Careful ! Pray for all leaders over the world, mind your own business and take care your own peoples !
It's all about Checks and Balances. Having some democratic element in government (such as in china's system) provides a checks and balances for a social approval of the people.
But for most politicians in China's system, the local election is just the beginning of their political career, not the means to the climax of their political career. After which they must build consensus to move up the system.
America doesn't need to use China's system of course, every country has its own circumstances. America DOES seem to need to improve its own system. And that does NOT mean going around bashing other countries.
The Chinese system is still evolving, as mentioned in this interview, the biggest topic for China is to develop an adaptable and robust check and balance against corruption. Though currently anti-corruption holds the system together, corruptions can make the system fall apart. This is China's domestic development issue and China does NOT want the likes of US or its vassal Japan to interfere - and US has interfered quite too much already it is sick.
A large number of China’s govt. officials of all levels, are from the grassroots level, meaning for those who are aspired to serve the people and the country, can actually rise up from the base population. Think freedom, think equality, think democracy. Now you are thinking.
Awesome interview by a REAL reporter, clean crisp to the point , not just dirrecting the response from the interviewed
The West can learn from China, how government can be more effective in the implementation of very large scale national projects to benefit citizens and not just special interest groups. Infrastructure, agriculture community involvement in local projects.
very informative.
I really liked this. You could tell they let him speak freely. More content like this and I will watch.
US cannot accept rivals from ... allies or not...
Ask the Japanese in the 80s. Toshiba then Huawei now.
Very good Liu Xin, keep it up!
My point here as I see it is that China’s political system is highly flexible-a combination of all known governing systems to get the best out of it.
Meritocracy is an extension of Confucius idea of selecting the best for governmental service. All public examination systems in schools and universities around the world follow this concept.
@Lily Devi,
Though those schools & universities might teach or know the concept, but unfortunately they never follow nor apply to their political system, as like warmonger US & its allies.
Don't forget that the US/UK systems are not one person one vote.
China cannot be stopped now cause the system they have made in their country is incredible! And they don’t rely on any foreign country ....
More power and love to china from neighbours , Pakistan.
In the main reference of democracy, Athens around 450 BC, our eternal problem of cliques was solved by randomly selecting 50 representatives of one out of the 10 municipalities that constituted the city-state (demos), for one year. No elections. Modern society copied this in the jury selection in courts and it decides even matters of life and death, not the professionals. Anybody who had something to present, had the same amount of time to do it in front of this jury of 50. In the west, if you control the media, indirectly by advertisement expenditures or directly by affording to lose money to buy their shares, you win.
Athens, a city of 100 thousand built the Acropolis in 8 years. Their interest in theoretical mathematics that had no apparent use in most cases, left us with theorems that found use 2500 years later, as a basis for cellular phone transmission and some that are still waiting. These may be two of the few records left that the Chinese will hopefully be able to break.
For sure the technique of testing people before promoting them is excellent and it seems to work in China. The question is, who judges them, independently of cliques.
I wish we could have leaders based on merits. What an amazing concept. Can you imagine our POTUS being elected by a panel based on achievements? The days of installing a bankrupt financially and morally, tv personality would be a thing of the past.
The political sytem in the West is decaying at present. It is more and more obvious that not the most competent people become rulers but the most populist and rabble-rousing. Their are not longer leaders who represent the whole nation or even a majority. They usually represent a certain group of particular or even foreign interests. The mechanism of self-control of the system doesn't work any longer.
I am convinced that China's approach to leadership has some preferences if they avoid the trap of gerontogracy in which they may tap when the elect an(or some) "indispensable" persons. By time they will surround themselves with dependend boottickers and yes-sayers as we saw many exemples in Western and Eastern history. I thought that the idea to limit the time a person may stay in power that China has abandoned today was a good one. The pope claims to be unfailable but there is no such man in the world. And I am convinced that there is no man in the world as well who can keep pace with all new developments.
As a marxist I know that the criteria of truth is the praxis and that no country develops in the same way and speed. As the praxis shows China is on a good path. I hope that they will go ahead on it what will be good for their people and the world. Let's learn from each other and respect each other for our common good.
Could u talk about how accountability works please? This is what s really destroying the West from the inside at the moment.
Admire the host. She is also knowledgeable. The professor deserves high respect. His world view is highly intellectual.
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In the context of democracy, U.S. dominated neoliberalism no longer resembles Abraham Lincoln's 1863 definition being 'governance of the people, by the people for the people'; whereas China's Marx/Lennin inspired 'socialism with Chinese characteristics' publicly advocates and demonstrates Lincoln's definition of democracy.
Great show!
I'm amenable of the present system of China only if they could use another word for communism, for example, Socialism with Chinese Characteristics since communism is no longer being practiced in China.
But communism is the goal, there is nothing wrong with that
@@gut.6925 how could communism still be their goal when they themselves didn't practiced it anymore.
Great interview, more of stuff like this..
I think that you might need a westerner to explain China for westerners..
Not going to work. They will call him a paid communist sympathizer.
That's what Deng's philosophy
for governance: Black or White, that catches mouse is a good cat.
You are doing a good job, promoted; You are not doing a job, replaced and demoted.
Meritocracy has put USA democratic system to shame .
Hey guys, you should be talking with Brazilian professors about what is happening here!
Good Format! (my personal view)
I agree. It's more natural this way. I like The Point.
I love your show
In US, political candidates are backed by big money.
The man in interview , looks so scared.
China should applying for membership in the NATO! Make it public and do not giving up like Russia did.
Mmm why China need to join NATO? NATO was form to contain the Soviet Union, and its really an obsolete organization and should be disbanded! Now NATO is use to contain Russia which is laughable because Russia is hardly the power of the Soviet Union and NATO is a legacy of the cold war period! Does anyone think that Russia will invade the NATO countries near their borders???? The only reason NATO exists is because the US wants to impose their domination on the world stage and keep their 750+ bases worldwide as a legit excuse and to sell weapons and arms to these countries. Since world war 2, the US has been engage in armed conflict all over the world, and now they are saber rattling in trying to contain China. But they will soon findout the determination and industrious Chinese will overcome all the challenges thrown at them and will emerge stronger than ever.
@@albertwong1919 What they gonna do? Try to get over the Pacific and see what happens. As to NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Countries must be from the North Atlantic Ocean above the Equator. It is a defense agreement incase a single country gets as powerful as Japan or Germany was in WW2 then attacks another country. It was created to try to make peace in Europe after centuries of on and off warfare. Also if you think the US has any problem containing your weak military you need to lay off the propaganda. The US has the power and means to turn China's entire Eastern Coast into glass within a week. We would really like to keep buying cheap goods from China, but if they think they can stand a chance against the American Military they will gladly show them the difference in power.
@@sambam215 - U dont speak for US. U think war is fun and games? U also dont understand history and how world war 2 started in the first place. What make u think I am from China, other than I am chinese? Two countries with nuclear weapons and u think who has the bigger 'stick' lmao, than u clueless about the power of nuclear weapons, both countries has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world hundred times over. Get your head out of the ground and look around u.
@@albertwong1919 The difference is China's nuclear weapons cannot reach us. Ours are right in Japan pointed at Beijing.
@@albertwong1919 If you are not from China and are pro China then idk what the fuck you are doing. Chinese people are fantastic and I loved my years in China. My friends I made there are for life. The government, however, is absolutely terrible. If a war happens, it will be 100% the fault of the CCP for continuously breaking agreements and international sovereignty. My head is up and looking. What do I see? Dozens of countries scared because China is flexing their power to take over the Asian seas and economic wealth with no regard for anyone else. I obviously understand history a hell of a lot more then you. China's power flexing and nationalism is exactly what Japan and Germany did to start the war. Well who had to come in and defeat the world enemies in WW1 and WW2? The USA. You are welcome btw, cause I am sure speaking Japanese as a Chinese person would have been terrible.
The.Brit deserve.my respect. He really know China.history and Confucianism. He even.know the.words 選贤 meaning select talent which was carried out during.the last.few thousand years. The use of public examination to.choose.talents has been practised.since the.SUI.dynasty about 2000 years ago
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Exactly so. Working your way up through the ranks of 95 million in the CPC, you will necessarily display serious leadership skills.
West needs to learn from Chinese Wisdom.
The West is too arrogant , ....which will lead to future wars and their downfall .
Do you travel in a vehicle driven by a popular guy with no experience, or by a guy with all the qualifications.
Brilliant Tank you
INTELIGENTE, AN INTERESTING INTERVIEW. I AM BRAZILIAN, AND IN MY OPINION, CHINA HAS TO MAKE A COMPARISON WITH WHO IS SOCIALLY BETTER OR MORE DEVELOPED THAN ITS COUNTRY.
Continue being wonderful. If your looking at something beautiful its really hard to slander it as something other.
I've been talking to lawyers and finance guys about factoring some of my invoices and have been going over some of the conversations in my mind. If I had slandered or been untruthful in my dealing with these people it would have registered as maliciousness , as , unethical conduct and the product of hostility not need. What I'm saying is people know the character of an individual by the manner in which they conduct themselves and it translates over time into trust.
That said, theres not a damn thing you can do with someone not paying attention :)
Whatever type of political governance you choose, it must be good governance to serve the people comprehensively (not just the few rich ones), it must be based on justice (law, order and fair), it must be effective (able to deliver tangible and intangible results), reliable (good track record) and transparent. As someone from CGTN just said (Zhou Yue) no political system is a done deal, it must evolve and change by trial and error meeting the needs of the people at a particular point of socio-economical development. To apply one standard method after a country is advanced and whose wealth is obtained by legitimate and aggression (i.e. colonialism, invasion) is simply not effective and frankly could be dangerous. The history and socio-cultural context is critically important too.
How do China governors grade themselves? What is the system? Self given grade A+?
When one party reigns and chairman has the position lifetime? How do you prevent power corruption? Who defines 賢明 (non-corrupted and wise)？and how is defined?
为中国发声！！！👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂🤣
As an old Chinese saying says even if the dogs barks along the way the caravan will go on! K
China greatest strength is in its younger generations who are highly educated to discern the fallacy and failings between the western democracy and Chinese own centralised system based on the long tested eastern democratic values besides the hard work and discipline.
The real pudding has already shown in the end results and not some rhetorical promises.
Imo China is on the right trajectory to greatness if it stays on track on what it is doing right now.
This type of discussions which touch the core of the understanding of a "system" are never undertaken in actual western media. Perhaps inside very closed "thinktanks" are some people of the highest level having discussions over this topics. 50 years ago this type of discussions where held also in the universities and under common people in the west. 50 years ago also sometimes in radio or TV at 2 o clock in the morning.
More than that, not only you don't see it on journals but any academic work done, where people talk for example about good economy strategies of China, will be noted less good. If you are an excellent student and work about this theme, many teachers and institutions will note you lower. That should be mentioned too. It's straight discrimination
Many of low hanging fruits were picked. Now, Chinese government have to educate, given more tools their officials to extend the fruits picking ranges.
I love china. I am from india. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Liu! the word demonisation means the portrayl of something good or even exceptional as being bad. the question is WHY???????
how would you grade the choice of the elite? if most people thought they made a good choice? how do you decide what sort of behavior constitutes virtue? If the people disagree,it doesn't matter?
Meritocracy - easy said he did,
How the merit is defined? Who defines it? Who promotes position? How do you define one has more merit than the other, by his boss? All the way to party chairman and the peak of power structure?
One needs to understand, ‘China’ is a very repulsively compelling term that has its own value in many ways, just like how people tried to understand Singapore, Norway, Japan, many years ago, but scaled at thousand folds. There’s are a few things that this term is still an attraction to general public and experts:
1. Any institution with that term on its establishment is drawing higher attention and has significantly higher asking price in news industry than any other term of the same context, eg. “China Financial Analyst, London”, “China Strategic Analyst, S.E.A.”, “,
Spreading falsehood is not a monopoly of the West. The Chinese government itself did it too. For example which party, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) or the Nationalist Party (KMT) is responsible for the independence of Outer Mongolia? Today most of the people in mainland China thought the KMT is responsible for the independence of Outer Mongolia when in fact it is the CCP that sign the treaty with the Soviet Union and recognizes the independence of Outer Mongolia.
两份条约一目了然
一、1945年中华民国和苏联加盟条约
签字人：王世杰(外长), 斯大林
1.苏联承认中国对外蒙古的宗主国地位；苏联必须在1950年前撤走在外蒙古境内的所有驻军。苏联同意中国政府对蒙古的驻军，但其驻军不能用来反对苏联。苏联强烈要求25年以内中国政府同意外蒙古举行公民表决，由联合国监督表决的公平性。
2.中华民国政府声明对外蒙古有不可质辩的主权，中国政府1950年10月10日恢复对外蒙古驻军，用于保护领土完整，不用于反对苏联，在同一时间实行蒙古高度自治。中华民国政府同意 100年以内让外蒙古人民举行公民表决，由联合国监督表决的公平性。公民表决的先决条件是1911年被苏联用武力驱逐出去的原外蒙各族居民迁回原地，参与投票。中国政府认为，公民表决是决定自治，不是决定独立。
3.双方同意就蒙古问题继续进行谈判。双方同意就东蒙问题继续进行谈判。
4.苏联同意无条件撤走苏联驻东三省所有武装力量。同意中国政府恢复原苏殖民地大连主权；苏联承认中国对海参威的主权，苏联同意在50内以内撤走苏联驻海参威所有武装力量。
5.中国政府将在1995恢复对海参威的主权，并开放海参威为自由港，对苏联免税。
6.双方同意就海参威问题继续进行谈判。
7.苏联承认江东六十四屯为中国领土。苏联承认图门江出海口是中国主权。
8.中国声明图门江出海口是中国主权，为了中苏友好图门江对苏联开放。
9.中国政府将保留继续废除不平等条约的权力。
10.苏联拒绝中国对科叶群岛的主权要求，但原意同中国政府就所有领土纠纷进行谈判。
11.中苏两国一致同意江面主权中苏各二分之一。
12.本条约需要中国国民代表大会同意，苏联人民代表大会同意，中苏最高领导人签字才能生效。
二、中苏友好同盟协议：(1949)
中苏友好同盟协议：(1949)
签字人：毛泽东, 斯大林
1.中华人民共和国无条件承认外蒙古独立，取消国民政府关于外蒙的不平等条约。并愿意根据联合国民族居住权原则，把南京政府用武力霸占的外蒙领土还给外蒙。
2.中华人民共和国承认海参威(包括海参威所辖之郊区)是苏联固有领土；中华人民共和国承认江东六十四屯为苏联领土。中华人民共和国承认图门江出海口是苏联主权；"新疆北郊"是苏联领土；
3.中华人民共和国停止1945年以来南京政府所有索土要求。承认清朝政府1850年以来所有领土条约。
4.乌苏里江江域靠苏方三分之二属于苏联主权，靠中方三分之一属于中国主权。
5.苏联政府欢迎中华人民共和国关于领土的声明。
6.双方同盟一致反对台湾国民党，及美国为首的帝国主义。
7.承认清政府关于大连的协议，承认苏联在大连旅顺的特权。
8.中华人民共和国欢迎苏联在新疆、东北、内蒙驻军，兄弟互助关系。
1949年，新政与苏俄签订《中苏友好同盟协议》，“无条件承认外蒙古独立，取消国民政府关于外蒙的不平等条约。并愿意根据联合国民族居住权原则，把南京政府用武力霸占的外蒙领土还给外蒙”。 并发表社论祝贺外蒙独立，1950年2月《人民日报》还刊载了胡华的文章，题目是“我们为什么要承认外蒙独立？”郭沫若也在“中苏友好同盟条约四周年纪念日”，北京新华广播电台发表了“我们应该怎样认识外蒙古立？”的文章。露骨地为外蒙脱离祖国而辩解。
《人民日报》社论:只有国民党反动派才痛恨蒙古独立
1950.02.24
作者：胡华
大家知道，蒙古曾侵入中华建立过蒙元。明太祖即位后蒙元灭亡，满清兴起后，又被满清占领统治。蒙古人民长期在本族统治阶级和异族统治的奴役压迫下，过着极其贫穷痛苦的生活。
到一九一一年中国辛亥革命，推翻满清后，蒙古是不是解放了呢？没有的，相反的它更成了帝国主义侵略争夺的对像。当辛亥革命十月中国武昌起义时，蒙古的统治阶级――王公、便利用这个机会，以“独立”的名义，投入帝俄的怀抱。
一九一七年俄国十月革命胜利，日本帝国主义却利用了白俄反动将军谢米诺夫，窃据蒙古，和苏联红军作战，到一九一一年才被苏联红军击溃。谢米诺夫失败之后，日本帝国主义又利用了中国北洋军阀安福系将军徐树铮侵入蒙古，在那里建立了亲日的军事独裁。安福系在中国北方失势之后，日寇复扶植谢米诺夫的一个助手――温根男爵，盘踞蒙古。蒙古人民受这样长期的侵略掠夺，什么时候才起来革命获得解放的呢？
为了反对帝国主义的劫掠，为了解放蒙古，蒙古贫苦破产的牧人和广大的下层职员、喇嘛、便在却伊巴桑等蒙古革命者领导下，在一九二○年组织了一个秘密的革命团体，发动游击战争。
侵略者统治着虽然用各种野蛮的屠杀，死刑和迫害来对待蒙古革命者，但蒙古的革命团体和革命游击队却日益壮大，到一九二一年的三月便举行了一个游击队和恰克图附近的盟族的代表大会，选出临时的革命政府，会上并以大多数决议，请求苏联的帮助。
在三月十七日到十八日夜间，蒙古革命游击队便攻占了恰克图，不久，又先后击溃了中国北洋军阀侵略军万余人，日寇扶植的白俄温根男爵反动骑兵一万一千人，在战争过程中，苏联红军曾出兵援助蒙古革命游击队，使革命取得了胜利。
在一九二四年（民国十三年），蒙古已宣告了独立，建立了蒙古人民共和国。当时，中国的国共合作的广东革命政府，对蒙古的独立是承认的，因为孙中山先生在“国民党第一次全国代表大会宣言”中，已承认了“民族自决”的原则。“那末，正式承认蒙古独立问题为何一直拖到一九四五年呢？承认经过如何呢？”由于在一九二七年叛卖革命的中国国民党反动政府，一直坚持大汉族主义，所以不肯承认蒙古独立。而蒙古从革命以来，在苏联的友谊帮助下，内部已建设的很强盛；对牵制打击日寇保卫远东和平，有也很大的贡献，如一九三五年和三六年，蒙古革命军曾两次击退了日寇在蒙古国境内东部的挑衅行为；一九三九年在诺门坎，苏军蒙军并肩作战，给进犯的日寇以严重的打击。在中国八年抗战中，苏联远东军和蒙古革命军对百多万日本精锐关东军的牵制，对中国抗战是极大的帮助。而在一九四五年的八月十日，蒙古人民共和国有对日宣战，配合苏军，联合东北抗日联军，出兵夹击日寇，在世界反法西斯战争中间，建立了卓著功勋。因此，世界各国，尤其是中国，应该正式承认蒙古的独立，这是义不容辞的。
所以，在一九四五年八月十日订“中苏友好同盟条约”的同时，双方又交换了“关于蒙古人民共和国之独立的问题”的文书。在文书中，中国国民党政府声明：“……由于外蒙古人民屡次所表示出的对于独立的热望，中国政府声明：在日本失败以后，若是外蒙古人民的投票公决证实此种热望时，那么，中国政府将承认具有其现时境界的外蒙古之独立。……”
“投票公决”的结果如何呢？一九四五年十月二十日举行的蒙古人民投票的结果，有百分之九十七?八的人，投票赞成独立，连国民党政府派去监票的内政部次长雷法章，也对投票手续表示满意（见塔斯社一九四五年十月二十二日库仑电）。
蒙古的独立，就是在民族自决的原则下，一个新国家的诞生，给世界的和平民主阵营增加了一份力量。承认蒙古独立，对每个真正爱国的中国人来说，是天经地义的事，只得欢呼的事。只有国民党反动派才痛恨蒙古独立，他们在当时被迫承认了蒙古独立，事后又大肆造谣，侮蔑人民的蒙古，侮蔑苏联与伟大的世界领袖斯大林，说：“蒙古独立是中国领土的丧失”。反动派这样说原也不足为怪，可怪的是，我们人民中有的人居然也有宗主国的情绪，似乎蒙古也非得划在中国“版图”上不可以似的，这实在是中了大汉族主义的毒。
[注：胡华为我国著名中共党史专家，曾任中国人民大学中共党史教研室主任，中共党史系名誉系主任。]
This Prof. Daniel Bell seems to be a honest and humble guy with a 'nerdy' like demeanor. He seems straight forward and calls a spade a spade. Of course he will be lumped by the anti-China crowd as a sycophant for the CPC for simply not conveying the negative China narrative. I like his response (when asked if the demonization by the West will continue), 'sometimes you have to forget about the West' (with the reporter giggling in the background) but concentrate on doing what is right (i.e. humane mechanism to train willing learners devoid of rigid dogmas).
Your achievement in China is fantastic and phenomenal. I laud your government. But please do not try to impose your aggression on India.
He is right. America presidency is the only job that does not requure a resume and 3 references.
This is the point ultimately.
The West live in fear and have a need that most Chinese citizens be rather poor than not and China as a country to be weak and subservient rather than strong and confident. This suit them (the West) in their condition.
Their condition is not an ideal or healthy condition to be accommodated. Least of all by China and its wonderful people. So I'd advise that one not waste unnecessary time on their deliberate strategy of deflecting the truth and insinuate that China is doing something gravely wrong.
Sick people that deny their illness will result in us ( the healthy ones) becoming mentally unwell .... for the sick to subjectively feel ( not be) better. I hope we can soon begin to ignore them .... but they're dangerous. We need be prepared for the worst from them including...war.
In the USA the Party Boss of the two party system determines the political candidates whom the people may vote for. And the Americans happily eat whatever is place in front of their face. Consequently, the qualifications of US politicians is subpar, morality below zero, and corruption at its zenith. The people elected a mediocre movie star , Ronald Reagan, to the White House - his portrayal of a US President was according to the script written by the Elite. A peanut farmer, Jimmy Carter, whose Presidency was marked by one failure after another, naively used the Presidency as an opportunity to preach Southern Christian values. An ambitious couple of modest means from Arkansas wheeled and deal their way into the White House. In their bizarre marriage Bill Clinton combined extramarital sex with politic, Cannabis, and corruption: his sexual escapade while as Governor of Arkansas as well as President was well publicized including his DNA evidence left on the dress of Monica Lewinsky and on the floor of the Oval Office; his infamous “ I didn’t inhale “ alibi speaks volume about his special rhetorical ability; their net worth from government service has miraculously increased to 8 digit. Bush I and II were very wealthy oil businessmen from Texas but not the brightest light bulb as Presidents - both committed USA to wars in the Middle East at the behest of Elite. The Elites wanted a Black man , Obama, as President to silent the criticism that US is a racist nation. They used him as a puppet in the White House. While the Black man of America called Obama one of their own, Obama was in fact the first White President disguised as a Black man. In his 8 years in the White House, Obama dashed the dreams of Black Americans who had hoped since the days of Emancipation of arriving to “ the Promised Land.” In the casino business world Trump is esoterically known as the ruthless take-no-prison businessman - his multiple bankruptcies left a wake of financial destruction upon his lenders and creditors. Trump is the master of public relation: several trophy wives, TV show MC, celebrity appearances, owner of beauty pageants and high profile real estates. In politic Trump’s ruthlessness exploited the ‘hot button issues’ such as : the massive illegal Hispanic immigration that dilutes the voting power of the White major; US companies off-shoring manufacturing and industry to the new economic power house China; and the economic decline of the USA. In Trump’s 4 year Presidency, the primary focus of his domestic and foreign policy were his re-election to the White House - a triumphant public relation that adds to his over-sized ego. The master of delivering a well rehearsed Hollywood script , the politician Ronald Reagan asked the America people : Are you better off today ? Today, the America is in worse shape than ever: millions of homeless, jobless, and hopeless; massive national debt; an economy that oscillates from on economic bubble to another ; and the political leadership that goes from expedient ruthlessness to senility.
Great interview and insights !!! Drump would not be trusted to be a village chief in China lol 😂
There three reasons why the western developed countries attack China. One is so called ideology. Two is the power generation process. Three is race discrimination.
For ideology, China failed to explain the democratic elements of its system, and the West have no interest to understand. Because western is controlled by capital, thus it is the main task to demonize the ideology, that is capitalism is good, socialism is bad.
For power generation, China again failed to explain its demonstratic elements which in fact superior than western system. Qualification requirements is one example.
The race discrimination, there is only one solution, that is China defeats America again and completely on American soil. Because it started from 1820 through opium smuggling.
He is knowledgeable..
Simple and stark contrast in US attitude towards an authoritarian regime like SAUDI ARABIA......why no regime change push?
Black gold?
In Western democracy, all passengers are allowed to drive the car and non-driving passengers are allowed to criticize the driving passengers. As can be expected, many unnecessary miles are traveled and numerous accidents encountered. Only 35% of passengers are happy with the journey.
In China's meritocracy, only expert drivers are allowed to drive. They arrived safely ahead of schedule. 90% of passengers are happy with the journey.
Liu Lao Lao : Who was the Chinese judge to decide who is the expert driver? How do you know the "expert" driver will arrive ahead of schedule. Finally how did you know 90% of passengers are happy with the journey? According to the recent "white paper" protest, more than 90% of the Chinese population were not happy; and many Chinese escaped to the US in 2023; and a young Chinese woman exhibited a US flag to a crowd on the street and she was arrested by police. All these facts showed you were totally wrong.
@@legpol
1.Who was the Chinese judge to decide who is the expert driver?
The Chinese govt. who else?
Her superb track record in making the country more and more prosperous (now world number 2) is the very reason she is allowed to continue.
In the West, the rich is the one who makes the decision. That is why the rich gets richer.
2. "how did you know 90% of passengers are happy with the journey?
Edelman, Harvard school, PEW and gallop.
3. "According to the recent "white paper" protest, more than 90% of the Chinese population were not happy"?
What a stupid example.
What you are saying is 100% of the hungry people feel hungry.
BTW, you said 90% of the Chinese population were not happy ACCORDING to the "white paper protest". Is it a research project?
I thought it is just another failed color revolution.
4."many Chinese escaped to the US in 2023"?
Both the US and China closed their borders, how many Chinese "escaped"? Number please.
5. " a young Chinese woman exhibited a US flag to a crowd on the street and she was arrested by police". What happened next?
Was she executed like BLM (black ....)?
6. When an idiot said I am wrong, more than likely I am not. Thank you for honoring me.
@@liulaolao7269 : I am sorry your first 1) answer was wrong because your original claim was, the driver was the government. Now your answer was equal to saying that "the driver decided himself is the expert driver.
Now your 2) was wrong again in the same logic. "she is allowed to continue" = she is allowed by herself to continue.
I shall skip 3.
4) The number was 6500. You can find this number from videos on You Tube under the title "Chinese illegal migrants".
5) Of course nobody knows next. I saw two security guards wrestled her down and disappeared.
6) You were found red-handed wrong. What a puppet show!!!
@@legpol
1. "original claim was, the driver was the government. Now your answer was equal to saying that "the driver decided himself is the expert driver".
What's wrong, as long as the people (90%)are happy?
2.Your question was "how did you know 90% of passengers are happy with the journey"?
My answer was "Edelman, Harvard school, PEW and gallop".
Do you know that all these are US research companies or institutions?
You asked me how did I know and I shown you the sources.
What more do you expect?
3. I ask you about the source of your 90% and you just give it a pass meaning your figure is based on nothing.
4. "The number was 6500"!
It is my turn to ask you about the name of the research companies.
In any event, 6500 on 1.4 billion is negligible. Nothing close to the 1 million passed away on a population of only 330 million. These 1 million couldn't even "escape".
@@liulaolao7269 I will only respond to your 4th question. The number was given to your original question that was: {Both the US and China closed their borders, how many Chinese "escaped"? Number please.} The number could only answer your original question. I could not satisfy your new question: "It is my turn to ask you about the name of the research companies." Your new asking was irrelevant because the number did not come from any "research companies". The number was only reported by the media namely RUclips.
To avoid more irrelevant questions, we shall only discuss this one.
It's a serious misrepresentation to say "totalitarian stalinism" I hope the guest was only referencing the American perception of Stalin and not asserting Stalin was totalitarian, he wasn't.
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western style is based on freedom of speech. one person, one vote comes from freedom of speech.
make the focus about FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Political meritocracy? What a strange euphemism for communistic dictatorship.
if am a chinese citizens i would not worry about the govt system of china and people who talk about china withough knowing reality