JAY SLATER How Is The "Private Search" For Jay Going?

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  • @LouisVanGaalsArmy-ty6cq
    @LouisVanGaalsArmy-ty6cq 3 месяца назад +75

    I do like this channel, but until this lad is found, there is nothing concrete saying what happened, so even what you are promoting is nothing but theory. Keep in mind, everything starts as a conspiracy until proven true.

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +29

      everything starts as a conspiracy until proven true.>>>That's not true at all. Conspiracies are demonstrably not true, and easily disproved. A conspiracy isn't equal to another theory anchored in facts and evidence, it is by definition NOT anchored in sufficient facts or evidence.

    • @JustAnita123
      @JustAnita123 3 месяца назад +27

      agree, I've unsubbed felt insulted

    • @bambacska
      @bambacska 3 месяца назад +9

      Yes!!!
      This is a projection, Nick,
      you are talking about yourself.

    • @Nilzipan
      @Nilzipan 3 месяца назад +16

      ​@@TCRS he said conspiracy not conspiracy theories. I think you misunderstood what he was saying. Look up the word conspiracy, it will take you two seconds. The world is full of conspiracies, they happen every day.

    • @zenaidarivera957
      @zenaidarivera957 3 месяца назад

      @@ThisIsSparta300

  • @heathercampbell2686
    @heathercampbell2686 3 месяца назад +51

    Hypothesis is the word you should be using not conspiracy. A Hypothesis is an assumption or idea . People throw the word conspiracy around which means something else. Those who say theyv got Jay and holding him to ransom now that is a conspiracy . It's perfectly natural for people to hypothesise in cases like these , that's how a detective may first start out by hypothesising if there's not enough evidence in the beginning.. It's called thinking , check your dictionary.

    • @wattage2007
      @wattage2007 3 месяца назад +3

      He’s not as smart as he likes to make out.

    • @craftpea
      @craftpea 3 месяца назад +1

      Agree with this.

  • @alienblackgoo_gle
    @alienblackgoo_gle 3 месяца назад +29

    I'm a 'conspiracy theorist', according to a lot of people's labelling. The fact is I have spent hundreds of hours reading, researching, looking at theories & evidence to create a conclusion different to mainstream doctrine ⚖️
    I would call it critical thinking. Sifting through both sides of evidence, following money trails & who benefits from certain events or agenda. It's a horrible place to go and the far easiest & most comfortable place is to stay believing the spoonfed mainstream preaching. Often it goes against everything you've been told & taught & you need to be able to stimulate your own cognitive dissonance. Jay's situation is just theory & speculation intertwined with people making things up. We don't have enough evidence & our knowledge bank is too small which is very frustrating. Metaphorically speaking, we don't have enough jigsaw pieces or even many fully formed jigsaw pieces to put in place, to see a picture forming 🧩

    • @stuart3753
      @stuart3753 3 месяца назад

      Better to be labelled a conspiracy theorist than be a gullible fool who still believes what the media tell them. The same media that lied about WMD in Iraq

    • @Gggg-sb7fg
      @Gggg-sb7fg 3 месяца назад

      I agree. When something is said to be a conspiracy or those tinfoil hats are nuts no-one can say that some previously known 'conspiracies' have now been proven beyond doubt.
      I always go to the Barry Seal story of when the CIA were allowing him to import tonnes & tonnes of class A drugs because he was suppluying the Contras with weapons for the CIA. He even smuggled for Pablo lol so if Id have said this back then I wouldve been laughed at and called a conspiracy theorist.
      Its well documented now that it was happening.

  • @PMCA977
    @PMCA977 3 месяца назад +29

    A lot of conspiracies end up being true yes a lot are not true but this guy talks as if conspiracies are people just coping 😂

  • @Emy53
    @Emy53 3 месяца назад +34

    There are no ransom calls that are truly asking for a ransom. There are people that love to insert themselves in a family's tragedy for shits and giggles. No one is going to risk being arrested for a ransom. Jay possibly fell into that terrain, got struck by a car and thrown over, or someone he pissed off knew he was up that area, and caught up with him. He could have possibly been taken out under the cover of darkness, and set off out to sea. We are all speculating. Some speculations or rumors seemed to turn out to be true. Jay went bv to Tenerife for trouble, and he found it. His own friends said they were told he stole something, and it was worth a lot of money. Be it drugs or a true Rolex, he pissed someone off.

  • @Guapaahi
    @Guapaahi 3 месяца назад +36

    From where I'm sitting The Witnesses have changed their stories So what are the police to believe

    • @wingleburt3146
      @wingleburt3146 3 месяца назад +3

      The police are in on it

    • @krismcstay1325
      @krismcstay1325 3 месяца назад +1

      The police dont care and why should they .....kids telling stories that doesnt add up

  • @jasondevlin133
    @jasondevlin133 3 месяца назад +5

    There's always an element of truth in conspiracy

  • @tech1238
    @tech1238 3 месяца назад +28

    Thanks for the updates. I’d like you to continue with this if you don’t mind

  • @PriorityPeace77
    @PriorityPeace77 3 месяца назад +8

    I really did love your words in this video. Thank you very much. Much love and peace to all of us. 👏👏💕✌️✌️✌️

  • @seamuspadraigsanders431
    @seamuspadraigsanders431 3 месяца назад +25

    The two guys he went back to the air bnb aren't just a couple of dudes, they're "the guys".
    Their gang used to run Barking and details are murky but they're either heavily connected with the "hellbanianz" or are that dangerous they remain untouched and free to roam Barking.

    • @SharonMoore-cs3os
      @SharonMoore-cs3os 3 месяца назад +5

      There are many Somali gangs now days

    • @seamuspadraigsanders431
      @seamuspadraigsanders431 3 месяца назад +7

      @@SharonMoore-cs3os They were part of Potter paypers crew. Look it up. The cafe he runs in tenerife belongs to Potter.

    • @averyintelligence
      @averyintelligence 3 месяца назад +2

      @@seamuspadraigsanders431 Gascoigne estate

    • @seamuspadraigsanders431
      @seamuspadraigsanders431 3 месяца назад +1

      @@averyintelligence Exactly.

  • @robertbosson5223
    @robertbosson5223 3 месяца назад +15

    Yesterday's conspiracy is tomorrow's fact.

  • @carolharrison1204
    @carolharrison1204 3 месяца назад +28

    You can’t knock all conspiracy theories as until the whole truth is known every thing is a conspiracy.
    The truth about this is you don’t know what happened non of us do so any one of the conspiracy theories are possibly true .

    • @estelledossantos5661
      @estelledossantos5661 3 месяца назад +1

      You are clearly missing the point...this conversation is clearly WAY over your head & clearly beyond your comprehension..!😑

    • @carolharrison1204
      @carolharrison1204 3 месяца назад +1

      @@estelledossantos5661 and what point is that ? Is it any opinion that does not align with yours or the mainstream narrative is a conspiracy theory and you are an idiot if you believe anything different?
      So despite research done by yourself that gives a different perspective to the one the mass collective have you are a ‘ flat earther ‘
      Do you still believe that the covid virus came from a wet market in wuhan ?
      Do you believe that president Biden is 100% cognitively apt ?
      There is a full lack of intelligence surrounding this event with the missing lad . Yes some people are adding way out strange thinking solutions. However just because people think there is more to this story does not make them untrue. So convince me I’m wrong .

  • @kathrinscharrer3923
    @kathrinscharrer3923 3 месяца назад +4

    Conspiracy as a coping mecanism is very wide spread. And as a German it reminds me far too much of the 1930s. I keep engaging in debate with people, but I get anxiety after talking to them. I fear where this might lead.

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 месяца назад

      Conspiracy was the murder of Thronfolger in Sarajevo in 1914... not Jay Slater´s

  • @debraanderson3395
    @debraanderson3395 3 месяца назад +13

    This is becoming beyond a joke. Ransom money. Where is proof of life???. Jay is no longer with us

  • @andreaclarke4955
    @andreaclarke4955 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for explaining rocks, rolex etc, my heart goes out to Debbie Slater and her family, I pray God bless poor Jay wherever he may be, we hope for good news, I love your channel ❤

  • @bambacska
    @bambacska 3 месяца назад +15

    This is a projection;
    You are talking about yourself.

  • @debbratrueax4430
    @debbratrueax4430 3 месяца назад +31

    Conspiracy theories are about extreme reactions to broken trust.
    There is an element of truth in every lie. Discernment is key when many truths are threaded through loopholes in the mind of the listener.

  • @Loopylulu8
    @Loopylulu8 3 месяца назад +3

    Did everyone enjoy their unsolicited counciling session ?😊

  • @fastbandit1250
    @fastbandit1250 3 месяца назад +4

    I hope ther is an audit being done on the go fund me money, 50 grand is a lot of money to be frittered away on miscellaneous expenses , the parents don’t look distressed , they just got a lot of money to spend on what they want

  • @leisastokes5358
    @leisastokes5358 3 месяца назад +16

    Hi Nick! I wish we could go back a couple of weeks and do it better!

  • @rhodi-anne
    @rhodi-anne 3 месяца назад +2

    Nick, your content has me coming back for more each day, I was hooked by your thinking with Lucy Letby. I wish you could forget all the other RUclipsr’s in true crime, as they by no means use their critical thinking… you are not of the same breed. Thats Ok. Leave them be and just keep doing what you are doing, there are so many of us out there that appreciate your point of view and opinion. Thank you for all your hours of research and work.❤

  • @pattysbmjs4319
    @pattysbmjs4319 3 месяца назад +2

    DebbieDebbie. Dedicate yourself to searching for your lost son. Nobody stops you from walking through those steep forests and stops wanting to charge for everything. Who has the brains and time to even file lawsuits?

  • @Hoppycat908
    @Hoppycat908 3 месяца назад +3

    I quite like the conspiracy theories the creative ideas suggested and reasons behind them. I take it all with a grain of salt, but it’s kinda group problem solving and theorising what could have happened and if it that seems possible given the evidence. Which gets you thinking 🤔

  • @Taytates-lr6kg
    @Taytates-lr6kg 3 месяца назад +3

    Best level headed analysis on this story I've seen great work..its a crazy situation that must be hell for the family..Jay's been missing for nearly 3 weeks I'm afraid I don't think he's still alive at this point but you never know crazy things happen..

  • @wedontneedmoneyanymorewene824
    @wedontneedmoneyanymorewene824 3 месяца назад +34

    This guy's channel started a conspiracy theory that he was smoking a joint when it was clearly a cigarette but hey ot good for his views aka money revenue 😂

    • @Etch-on4oi
      @Etch-on4oi 3 месяца назад +3

      Smoking a cigarette or smoking a joint, what's the difference? 😂
      Edit4TheTards: he is implying a cigarette would be ok and a joint wouldn't, I'm asking what the difference is in judging him smoking a cigarette Vs smoking a joint... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ "Getting stoned" doesn't answer this...

    • @rosita3528
      @rosita3528 3 месяца назад +16

      ​@@Etch-on4oia cigarette doesn't get you stoned

    • @Etch-on4oi
      @Etch-on4oi 3 месяца назад +2

      @@rosita3528 what's bad about that

    • @stoicsavage509
      @stoicsavage509 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Etch-on4oiyou asked him what's the difference... He told you.. Then you proceed what's bad about that... Thereby admitting it's different 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Etch-on4oi
      @Etch-on4oi 3 месяца назад

      @@stoicsavage509 you actually thought that I thought they are literally the same? Is your IQ in the double digits?

  • @mandyD
    @mandyD 3 месяца назад +25

    I used to laugh at conspiracy theories. Now, the woke nonsense we hear each day has me reaching for my tin hat.

    • @kathrinscharrer3923
      @kathrinscharrer3923 3 месяца назад +2

      Don't, we have to keep talking to people. If we disagree with what people say we still need to talk with them and try to understand where they are coming from. We do not have to agree with the answers they have found, but in democracy we need to try to understand what discomfort/ inadaptation caused them to seek those answers. Freedom is good ( and anyone who has ever split from a partner without being insulted by their community for it, like 70 years ago, knows it) but it is terribly difficult for humans to manage. If we have many options many of us get lost in them. We need to address people feeling lost, even if we find their answers stupid or absurd.

    • @lynn-mariemullins410
      @lynn-mariemullins410 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kathrinscharrer3923 true words .

    • @CelticSaint
      @CelticSaint 3 месяца назад +1

      Welcome. We are a friendly lot who would just like to know the truth of what is actually happening to the world and who is doing it.

    • @kathrinscharrer3923
      @kathrinscharrer3923 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@CelticSaintI highly doubt that finding easy answers and that " one, obscure force" that is " doing" things is anything but friendly. But then, I am a German and my grandmother has spent her life warning me about where easy answers lead and what the early signs are.

    • @kathrinscharrer3923
      @kathrinscharrer3923 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@CelticSaintCould you be more specific about what you are worried about and why? What specific measures do you think we need? Why do you think someone hidden is " doing it"? What is the " it"?

  • @carolmurray5048
    @carolmurray5048 3 месяца назад +15

    Can’t wait till the Alec Baldwin trial I hate that everything always comes down to money.If I Had the means of rock climbing I would definitely donate my time I am athletic and good at hunting for lost people but not a good rock climber

  • @bills6093
    @bills6093 3 месяца назад +7

    More and more, the internet and social media shows us it's bad side.

  • @wanya1980
    @wanya1980 3 месяца назад +23

    Yeah, conspiracy believers are unvaccinated bro - see how it works sometimes?

    • @Micofitness
      @Micofitness 3 месяца назад +1

      @@wanya1980 brilliant fxxking brilliant 😂

    • @topazlake85
      @topazlake85 3 месяца назад

      Many unvaccinated just took well informed decision not to get vaccinated, as nobody better than themselves knows their overall health status.

    • @njones420
      @njones420 3 месяца назад +2

      As a medical geneticist, I’m in no way surprised by this …

    • @raddersmyhero
      @raddersmyhero 3 месяца назад +2

      Pureblood and proud of it!!!

    • @njones420
      @njones420 3 месяца назад

      @@raddersmyhero "pureblood" 🤣
      Are you proud to make choices from a position of ignorance?

  • @sylviarogier1
    @sylviarogier1 3 месяца назад +1

    Soldiers of reality . . . I like that.

  • @billierobinson799
    @billierobinson799 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @auntieree
    @auntieree 3 месяца назад +27

    Jay deserves the cool heads to prevail. We all deserve that. My happy place is with my elderly kitties, a crochet hook and yarn. Your videos are pretty grounding to me. I appreciate these moments of sanity. Thank you 😊

  • @DelvineMounsearWilson
    @DelvineMounsearWilson 3 месяца назад +21

    True Crime Rocket Science is far from authentic and come up with such BS. Talk about lies and fraud - ha ha - describes this channel exactly.

    • @sueharvey4747
      @sueharvey4747 3 месяца назад +1

      I was thinking how to say this but you saved me the effort - thank you!

  • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
    @Mychannel67-wh4tc 3 месяца назад +4

    The kidnap theory is nonsense.
    He was abducted on the road fleeing from the two men. His phone was tossed into the area below.
    He was with them for a reason & he did steal something from them.
    This is logical based on the lies & group of people he was involved with. Plus he was stabbed on the beach by whoever he’d upset.

  • @karenholmes9560
    @karenholmes9560 3 месяца назад +2

    Initially this story was of a young lad who seemed to have got himself lost in a remote place and needed urgent help to survive. Very quickly it turned into a mystery and web of lies and dark drugs underworld. If we build on the premise of' what we think about we bring about,' the more we focus on something the more the universes gives us evidence of it to prove that to us. So we are drip fed info so regularly by news bullet ins, you tube ect and some is true and some is not, that in the end we make decision in our mind that satisfies our curiosity and enables us to solve the reason why this event has happened. We all have experiences to call upon when something like this happens but not all end up in death or us missing. I myself have had close calls that could have ended badly if it wasnt for some stroke of luck that rescued me. Just as some luck can help some unfortunate occurrences can also effect the outcome. Very interesting this episode and worth more discussions.

  • @berniemax1259
    @berniemax1259 3 месяца назад +10

    How does mwt know jay was scared leaving the Airbnb he was talking to Brad on video call laughing that doesn't sound like a guy terrified 🤔

    • @owenwadders3689
      @owenwadders3689 3 месяца назад

      He always seems to pop up on cases that don’t add up! Or pushing a narrative with no evidence or actual proof! He thinks it was down to himself that jimmy savile was found out! A tad late there, as jimmy had died and been at it years apparently! Either way MWT again pushing a narrative! Makes me wonder if he only on conspiracy cover ups! Probably works for SIS or similar

  • @iaincraig4871
    @iaincraig4871 3 месяца назад +13

    Is it a conspiracy theory to point out that Jay has 3 feet in the photo of him on the steps with a cigarette in his hand??? If it is then look closely because the middle shoe is a different size and style of shoe!!! Is it a conspiracy to point out that Jay could of swam back to town from the beach at the bottom of the ravine in approximately an hour and that that would be the most logical way of getting back to his friends whilst staying off the roads and out of the cactuses??? If it is then just look how close town is to the beach on Google!!! Is it a conspiracy theory to point out that Lucy has only done one interview this whole entire time and that was with the B.B.C who have been proven time and time again to be liars, they just did it again with Nigel Farage!!! Is it a conspiracy theory to know that the best thing to do with Lucy would be to keep her talking to as many “news” organisations as possible as this would likely end up with her exposing her lies and discrepancies in the story??? Is it a conspiracy theory to point out that this isn’t about a missing idiot who makes really bad choices in life but is in fact now a diplomatic crises because the Balearic Islands are run by corrupt politicians and police chiefs who know exactly what the score is regarding drugs and that they know the Islands would financially collapse if the whole system was fully exposed to the outside world??? I.e, no drugs, no visitors = no hotel bookings and no bars and restaurants making money. Everyone would be hit by the loss of trade!!! Are these few things all conspiracy theories? Because I’ve got a shit load more for you but I suspect you’d prefer to just keep making your daily videos that say nothing of these issues and do nothing to shed light on actual possibilities whilst you sit there in your bedroom and make money from churning out the same inconsequential bullshit that you did in your previous video and the one before that and the one before that….. or perhaps it’s a conspiracy theory to point out that you yourself could be a paid operative employed to misdirect people from the truth of this situation so that the status quo remains intact!?? Hmmm, now there’s a thought. So maybe you should shut up calling anyone who has an idea that runs against the heavily pushed, nonsensical mainstream narrative a conspiracy theorist who has “issues of their own to deal with…”. and start doing some real analysing of the bigger picture here. How about that???

    • @amelu_amelu
      @amelu_amelu 3 месяца назад +3

      💯 💯 💯

    • @thefonzeful
      @thefonzeful 3 месяца назад +1

      "Jay has 3 feet in the photo of him on the steps" at last!!!! someone else noticed it. it was the first thing i saw in that photo.

    • @shazzarobo4383
      @shazzarobo4383 3 месяца назад +1

      Love this statement!! You are spot on!! Well said!

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 месяца назад

      Balearic or Canary?

    • @fozlesgitit1568
      @fozlesgitit1568 3 месяца назад +1

      Is it a conspiracy that you mean Canary Islands not Balearic

  • @akweeyin23
    @akweeyin23 3 месяца назад +16

    In my opinion most RUclipsrs are coming up with these theories to make content in order purely to make money .

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +7

      100%. That accounts for a lot of the so-called "true" crime content, most of it isn't true.

  • @TaraEstcourt-se1sx
    @TaraEstcourt-se1sx 3 месяца назад +3

    Your saying about all these people money grabbing etc. your doing the exact same thing. Benefiting off of their misery. And you make videos going on and on about stuff that's completely wrong. For example you repeatedly said 15 minutes when it was 50. You can't tell the difference between a cigarette and a joint. The people your criticising are doing what you are. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @eddiehockley4144
    @eddiehockley4144 3 месяца назад +4

    If he was in the mountains the buzzards and Egyptian vultures would be circling the body by now.

  • @robbirobin9657
    @robbirobin9657 3 месяца назад +1

    We can see through the ransom demands straight away. The family did not have that cash until after Jay disappeared. “They” couldn’t “take” him after he disappeared.

  • @LikeabossB
    @LikeabossB 3 месяца назад +1

    Let the light keep shining brighter & brighter til the real truth of what happened to young jay comes out 🙏

  • @Flowersofromance6-fs4pb
    @Flowersofromance6-fs4pb 3 месяца назад +5

    I don't know if there could be anything this or not, but I keep thinking - that bit of film where Jay is on the dancefloor and drops to his knees. Maybe not falling - maybe saw an expensive watch from someone nearby drop to the floor unseen, and he grabbed it ? Because it would be hard even for a seasoned pickpocket to steal a watch from someone's wrist. Maybe he just 'got lucky' saw it and grabbed it off the floor and word of that got to the owner who challenged him in the skirmish outside.

    • @Auntypsychotic12
      @Auntypsychotic12 3 месяца назад +1

      Could well be and the 2 guys at the air b and b said they would buy it off hom. He goes there with him of the promise of money bit they dont give it so he leaves with the watch. The giys could have caught up with him and took him back. Remwmber they said he went to get cigs then came back? What if he left and they brought him back?

  • @contiflex
    @contiflex 3 месяца назад +2

    It's clear drugs are involved in all aspects of this story. The 2 men in the air B&B are involved, Lucy is involved and Jay has been dealt with for messing up with the drugs he was selling. The GoFundMe is a con and I'm amazed that people are continuing to give these people money. Thanks for your insights.

  • @jacquibaldwinson4119
    @jacquibaldwinson4119 3 месяца назад +1

    Have you heard the account written by the other young woman who claims that she was working alongside Jay And Lucy as a member of a drug pushing organisation ?

  • @robbirobin9657
    @robbirobin9657 3 месяца назад +1

    Another great episode Nick, full of great advice. I’m going to go out there now into the world and face a few realities. Nick, are conspiracy theories connected to “The Denial of Death”?

  • @susanneedham2836
    @susanneedham2836 3 месяца назад +31

    So what about the dad that died of bit marks ? So much mysterious stuff happening. The family's need THE TRUTH.

    • @cathal3020
      @cathal3020 3 месяца назад +7

      You what love

    • @Quietlygm
      @Quietlygm 3 месяца назад +4

      Different island mate

    • @thefonzeful
      @thefonzeful 3 месяца назад

      the dad that died of what dude? bite marks? wdym?

    • @cathal3020
      @cathal3020 3 месяца назад

      Old susanne needs to be sent into a care home the dementia is setting in :/

    • @simonpeyton-n3h
      @simonpeyton-n3h 3 месяца назад +1

      died of bite marks are u really so dense,they dont know the cause of death yet there saying probably hit and run,he also happened to have a few bite marks on him but didnt die from them for gods sake

  • @earth0128
    @earth0128 3 месяца назад +2

    This case is saturated like many before, it's important to be aware of what you watch and read. The reality is often much more straightforward. Jay is in the mountains, it will take expertise and luck to find him.

  • @happyheidi747
    @happyheidi747 3 месяца назад +1

    What ransom has been asked for ??
    I'm in the uk and I've not heard this!!

  • @Thedevilwearsprada24
    @Thedevilwearsprada24 3 месяца назад +2

    Why do you keep referring to new York times?. Nobody cares about that

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад

      Lol, I do.

  • @carolmurray5048
    @carolmurray5048 3 месяца назад +7

    I am terribly immersed in the best way to search for Jay

    • @rupertdabear3148
      @rupertdabear3148 3 месяца назад

      @@carolmurray5048 I'll try to point you in the best direction ok. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN A RUclips COMMENT SECTION 😂😂😂

    • @carolmurray5048
      @carolmurray5048 3 месяца назад

      @@rupertdabear3148 Oh I kno you are right I hav other sources

  • @MrJamiez
    @MrJamiez 3 месяца назад +13

    Bro is milking a dead cow..

  • @danahsutton101
    @danahsutton101 3 месяца назад +7

    Sometimes there are conspiracies. Lets have debate and figure out what the truth is.

  • @SusanaSantossmlvs73
    @SusanaSantossmlvs73 3 месяца назад +1

    Excelent video! I think lack of accountability also plays a big role in this fear, victim, vilain mentality. We are not responsible for our misfortune, others are. Wise tips for people's empowerment. Completly agree with your analyses. And i always learn and grow here. TY🙏

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +1

      We are not responsible for our misfortune, others are.>>>Well said. Shortened even more: We are not responsible.

    • @SusanaSantossmlvs73
      @SusanaSantossmlvs73 3 месяца назад

      @@TCRS TY Nick! In a world of lies, truth is revolutionary. And you are right, we need to fight for truth together learning from each other. Also if what we say disturbs so many people as i've hitnessed in comments, what we are saying must BE of importance. Keep up with your excelent humanistic work! It's relevant for a lot of us!

  • @CatherineDover
    @CatherineDover 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the Spanish police have done all they can for the moment. The cost of neverendingly searching with no hard facts to go on must be enormous. I think we should wait for at least one proven fact to appear before making sweeping statements. Thanks for your programme.

  • @LorrieGreen-l6j
    @LorrieGreen-l6j 3 месяца назад +5

    Theres such a thing as authorised crime

  • @SusanaXpeace2u
    @SusanaXpeace2u 3 месяца назад +1

    Yeh, uncertainty is hard for people

  • @Denise-r5p
    @Denise-r5p 3 месяца назад +3

    i'm still very suspicious of Lucy. Why did she call the police so early in the morning, and assume there was a problem, surely Jay must have said something to her or she knew something, because i thought they only had a convo about him coming home, strange i think.

    • @mishamandrake1677
      @mishamandrake1677 3 месяца назад +1

      I think because she said Jay had called her saying he was lost and thirsty, so she called police hoping they would send a helicopter to search for him

    • @topazlake85
      @topazlake85 3 месяца назад

      Because it's the most sensible thing to do under circumstances. Obviously, Jay wasn't able to think clearly about his situation, until he found himself deep in trouble. Ignorance of youth and lack of basic survival skills might have cost him his life....

  • @deejaydannyj5621
    @deejaydannyj5621 3 месяца назад +5

    I apologise if this comes across as a bit of a rant.
    Sometimes like you say when people try to help, it may come across as a bit of unhelpful hindrance to the case..
    Also, if channel creators on RUclips didn’t advertise this kind of “true crime” would there be speculation and so called conspiracy theories, internet sleuths ?
    I’d never heard of this until Y.T creators posted it up.
    As one of the so called internet sleuths that are delusional from reality (offended much) we can only go by facts, by following the facts presented to us the same way as a court case would be done, you have to join the dots - also done the same way police/investigators would.
    I myself do know of both sides of the law but I would literally go with this -
    Jay went out with friends had fun, then ended up alone, then went off twenty miles away into a known dodgy drug area with two people he kind of knew but again it was 20 miles away from where he was staying.
    (Bare with me)
    No matter how fast he wanted to get away from the B&B, didn’t wait for the bus, didn’t ask host lady from B&B for water/drink or charge his phone and wait for that bus (apparently had no money for the bus) didn’t ask his two B&B mates for a lift back, didn’t follow the bus route by safety of the road in the direction/route the bus would’ve taken him back or ask for a lift, didn’t use his last remaining battery to ask friends to help him get back BUT did all the complete opposite only to disappear is very odd.
    The conspiracy theories and sleuths can be useful as in, open minded.
    It may be that Jay took a wrong path, slipped into the ocean and that could sadly be as simple as that but you have to take every option of what if and backgrounds/history of persons involved.
    (Basically) everyone or no one could possibly know something or be involved in some way until eliminated. when RUclips channel creators jump on these missing person/crime files and some not having any professional experience nor knowledge of facts, I myself would expect many speculations to come flooding in.
    The fact Jays family were out there but I reckon told by police/investigators not to go off searching would be down to safety and so they don’t loose/injure anyone else.
    I would poke a tad at the Spanish police for not investigating the B&B or the two guys Jay stayed with until two weeks later but again they were looking for a missing person that had left there alive.
    Only one guy has been identified from the B&B, has police taken any persons involved phones for absolute proof of calls/texts/video calls ?
    Maybe they have and know more than we’re told..
    Or we could look at it as conspiracy theorists and sleuths are not but, not disconnected from reality and are literally concerned for a missing young lad and trying to keeping a closed investigation open that bit longer to get more answers or actually find Jay.
    Or we could all just say, give up, forget it as if no one cares.
    Next investigation please.

  • @paulvine1487
    @paulvine1487 3 месяца назад +7

    It's ok his parents saying stop believing what's on social media but they are not denying what people are saying on social media in fact there not saying anything about him his past not one of his friends have stud up for him saying none of the comments aren't true and who's was the boat hanging around at the bottom of the gouge that went off radar

    • @3301Anonymous
      @3301Anonymous 3 месяца назад +10

      Jay was killed at sea they stripped him. the guy in Jay's clothes at door isn't jay it's the guy who was with Lucy the rolex is also a cover up it was a kg of tackle lucy and brad put his phone up in the hills along with his glasses to save themselves. He was shot and threw in the sea with a heavy vest. You will never find him or his body. Code of honor in the drug trade. Nobody will talk they all know the consequences. He was on the trafficking boat the maruba at 8.30 am transponder off and at the same time lucy and brad were making it look as if he was at the air bnb the guy keeps deleting the post

    • @amandacarter7740
      @amandacarter7740 3 месяца назад

      ​@@3301Anonymoustaxi driver saw him and women from by Airbnb..i believe hes played with the big boys and is now gone but no one will know how they dealt with him

    • @lizxox9460
      @lizxox9460 3 месяца назад

      Poor kid ❤

  • @Justalking-gg9di
    @Justalking-gg9di 3 месяца назад +1

    Click bait anyone 😤

  • @CharlesSilver-ew3ju
    @CharlesSilver-ew3ju 3 месяца назад +4

    Just wondering why or maybe they have, did people take a lie detector?? Are the cops allowed to ask them to do this in Spain? I have no idea. I think I've had my fill of RUclips for a few days, the world is so disheartening and gross. Happy Independence Day!

  • @thefonzeful
    @thefonzeful 3 месяца назад +3

    When will anyone else point out that Jay has 3 shoes in the photo of him on the steps with the cigarette ????? And those shoes certainly don't look like the kind of footwear a 19 yr old raver would wear!!

  • @thecatinthehat3931
    @thecatinthehat3931 3 месяца назад +4

    The evidence does point to him getting lost ,however, who in their right mind would attempt to walk through that rugged mountain range [11 hours walk when he could have waited a couple of hours for the next bus]? I reckon 'you live by the sword, you die by the sword!

    • @shalinivarma237
      @shalinivarma237 3 месяца назад

      He had been raving for days he would have been out of it after taking drugs etc, he probs wanted to get back to his friends seeing the sea or whatever in the distance thinking he could walk it. So that's what he did rather than waiting for the bus. He didnt have water etc, he went the wrong way,. He had an accident slipped, fell got knocked out. Unfortunately he may never be found theres lots of Ravines, dead ends and caves so his body could be anywhere. Awful for his family n friends

  • @tomcat561999
    @tomcat561999 3 месяца назад +2

    How much does he owe to his dealer? Let's just pay it so he can safely return to Lucy....
    He lost his bag and now he must face the consequences.....
    Wake up guys....

    • @eliandranogekoskiuk
      @eliandranogekoskiuk 3 месяца назад

      Too late, he got stabbed in the beach because of that.

    • @simonpeyton-n3h
      @simonpeyton-n3h 3 месяца назад

      i think you should maybe wake up pal,even if what u say is true then a young inexperienced 19 yr old lad isnt gonna be trusted with more than a few grands worth of pills at the most,if hes lost that then hed maybe get a slap and made to work off the debt,organised crime groups do not kidnapp or kill young lads over small debts, that would be totally counter productive to the whole operation and making money which is all they care about plus the heat it would bring onto them from police is hardly worth it is it?its ridiculous this isnt a soap or a movie

  • @auntieree
    @auntieree 3 месяца назад +1

    The Lucy element to me begs a question of why critics of this search are not considering the youth and inexperience of Lucy as well as Jay? It troubles me that people will heap loads of blame on her and dissect her words and actions straight away, no matter what the consequences of delay and the wasted energy in the long run (if you're just an armchair sleuth on the internet, that is).

  • @DebbieGreen-le2130
    @DebbieGreen-le2130 3 месяца назад +11

    Click bait

  • @estelledossantos5661
    @estelledossantos5661 3 месяца назад

    Yes exactly....blame, blame, blame...it is sick..!☹️

  • @topazlake85
    @topazlake85 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you Nick...yet another excellent video! Critical thinking is a skill...

  • @missymoon2831
    @missymoon2831 3 месяца назад +6

    The Mother and Father are not surprised. Disappointed in their son, but all parents are very upset .We know JS is not the brightest tool in the box, Let's just stop talking bs, drag the b and b owner in, LML, BH, and the two "British" men and then the truth will out. ❤

    • @shalinivarma237
      @shalinivarma237 3 месяца назад

      Well there not brits but the air b n bs guys are back in the UK Tenerife police allowed them to go.... but obviously its come out about their drug offences

  • @JanTraveler
    @JanTraveler 3 месяца назад +3

    Hi Nick,
    I really appreciate the excellent videos you are doing on this case, and I hope you will continue..from Arizona US

  • @xevvvi
    @xevvvi 3 месяца назад +3

    The pandemic caused that for most people

  • @3301Anonymous
    @3301Anonymous 3 месяца назад +10

    Why delete my comment u helmet

  • @sharondrury5676
    @sharondrury5676 3 месяца назад +15

    😯 thank you, Nick, for the well wishes for our Independence Day. This day means very much to me. 🇺🇸
    When you post I watch and I appreciate all the work you put in to your videos.

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +7

      You are so welcome

    • @corrinapett
      @corrinapett 3 месяца назад +2

      I don't need help with reality. This is a case that will be resolved. People will naturally look at all possibilities. The truth is out there.

  • @o-i-see.4025
    @o-i-see.4025 3 месяца назад +1

    using my critical thinking an not conspiracy phycological disorder, take a look at the ratio of comments that surggest your logic is flawed,your rude condecending attitude is insulting which is the only authentic thing you display.authenticity is not your decision to be,its how you are observed by a audience.i think a channel poll would prove that point.if or when the slatter case is resolved depending on the details if it alines with conspiracies will you make a authentic appology to all the commenters you have labeled as crackpots? ...conspiracy theory was a term introduced by the CIA in the wake of the kennedy assassination,,,,funny why they would do that.its all researchable fact thats not denied.

  • @kingkongsson1
    @kingkongsson1 3 месяца назад +2

    He was a drug mule like lucy mae , he got in too deep . Its all smoke n mirrors

  • @loganavich17
    @loganavich17 3 месяца назад +4

    I haven't heard anything about his passport ,belongings or where his accommodation was,or Lucy's?

  • @jacquelinedangelo46
    @jacquelinedangelo46 3 месяца назад +6

    Conspiracy theorists seldom have rational minds

  • @lornahudson4454
    @lornahudson4454 3 месяца назад +6

    I think you're being very close-minded. Yes, he could be in the mountains, unfortunately dead. But the life he lived makes it very possible that he has been taken or killed

  • @CrystalGlow-mu4bf
    @CrystalGlow-mu4bf 3 месяца назад

    I studied forensics and anyone else who has studied it will know, you stick as closely to the facts of the case as possible and you make link to persons or scenarios - it's like a puzzle. This is why detectives get so frustrated with conspiracy theories because it has nothing to do with the pieces of the puzzle.

  • @tommyi6667
    @tommyi6667 3 месяца назад +8

    A conspiracy cannot be a conspiracy of chaos, only chaos can be chaos. Non sensical

    • @kathismith7441
      @kathismith7441 3 месяца назад +2

      It provides a level of control for people who don’t have control of of their own lives.

    • @tommyi6667
      @tommyi6667 3 месяца назад

      @@kathismith7441 control of people by the SAME people who have no control over their own lives, Explanation of the logic in this scenario please 🤭🤔

    • @kathismith7441
      @kathismith7441 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tommyi6667 are you kidding me. Look it up. It provides comfort for those who feel out of control. Like a person with anorexia. It’s something that they can control themselves without any input.

    • @kathismith7441
      @kathismith7441 3 месяца назад

      @@tommyi6667 from a spouse or friend.

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +4

      Of course it can.

  • @ambertosler8961
    @ambertosler8961 3 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if this is a complete set-up for the money that was donated. And is that man even a real policeman or part of a bigger plan? Plus, in that tik tok, he spoke with a friend at 7pm on the morning that Jay he allegedly left the air b and b did not have his face in so strange 😮

    • @stuart3753
      @stuart3753 3 месяца назад

      I've thought the same, but would the family have to disclose how they used the gfm money?

  • @CelticSaint
    @CelticSaint 3 месяца назад +1

    A conspiracy can be defined as when 2 or more people, behind closed doors, are conspiring together to being about a result that they find advantageous. That happens in ALL walks of life and especially in the business world. Are you saying that this never happens?

    • @garbancitolentejas486
      @garbancitolentejas486 3 месяца назад

      Never and always mean the same......two non-existent absolutes...

  • @LorrieGreen-l6j
    @LorrieGreen-l6j 3 месяца назад +4

    The main stream media are the ones speculating and putting it out there look at mwt famous for it

  • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
    @Mychannel67-wh4tc 3 месяца назад +1

    Ava Al-Goddess wrote -
    Jay was shot and dumped in the sea. Lucy and the others had no choice but to comply and launch his phone down that ravine. He was taken to the maruba balkan cartel trafficking boat shot and sunk with a heavy vest. He broke the code. It's sad that these gangs will watch a lads head fall off on drugs then he fucks up and when the order comes from high up Senegal bosses.
    Maruba is a known cartel running a vessel that makes regular trips to Senegal.
    This sends a message to other runners like Lucy.
    The truth is often a conspiracy theory

  • @robbirobin9657
    @robbirobin9657 3 месяца назад

    Thanks Nick for thinking about The General Election 😊

  • @bah-bah29hinks7
    @bah-bah29hinks7 3 месяца назад +3

    The Mum knows. You can see it and feel it. She reminds me of the people held hostage by t3rror13ts. They have to say on video that they are being treated well but clearly they are not. 😃

  • @snowedman2993
    @snowedman2993 3 месяца назад +16

    What the f are u talk in about you have me lost to

  • @krismcstay1325
    @krismcstay1325 3 месяца назад +3

    The biggest fraud known that thomas fella

  • @garbancitolentejas486
    @garbancitolentejas486 3 месяца назад +1

    It's the best thing I've heard in a long time. Excellent video. Congratulations. People are willing to watch anything in order not to watch themselves. They can't stand reality so they evade it (it's just a pretense, nobody escapes the wheel of life and death)... through drugs, films... whatever... for not accepting things as they are, as simple as they are, as hard as they may be.
    Life has taught me that people don't want to know the truth (he who seeks truth deserves the punishment of finding it) they just want to know something that comforts them and pass it off as truth... that's why people are willing to believe whatever they want to believe in. However irrational it may be....
    They can't stand the idea that a 19 year old kid, in full youth, in full happiness, in full fun, could make a mistake and lose his life... they want to believe in a false and criminal "Karma" that kills a kid as a punishment for something they themselves have decided to believe (although it is known that Jay Slater neither killed nor physically harmed anyone)... and that celestial "avenger" takes multiple forms for these conspiranoids (The Mafia, local poblation, sects.. cannibalistic groups etc etc.).
    Another human idea (especially of this century) is not to assume one's own responsibilities. The blame is always on the other (my parents, siblings, friends, teachers...or at a general level, Jews, foreigners, homosexuals ....) everyone but me... if I fail it is because there is an international conspiracy against me... It is easier to blame everything than to take responsibility, to see where one has failed, what one has to change to improve and to try again. Here it is easier to say that poor Jay has been the victim of an international conspiracy that dominates the world than to think that the same thing could happen to your son if he goes out partying and makes bad decisions accompanied by bad luck...
    From minute 17.35 onwards, it seems like a tribute to Galeano (Montevideo, 1940 - Montevideo 2015)... "Mucha gente pequeña, en lugares pequeños, haciendo cosas pequeñas, pueden cambiar el mundo" (Many small people, in many small places, do many small things, that can alter the face of the world.”).
    A great video of yours against lies and manipulation.

  • @20FreeWill
    @20FreeWill 3 месяца назад +2

    They seemed to brush off the early ransom demands too easily, also how they treated some witnesses. I assume they know something I dont , but thats not necessarily a good thing

    • @shalinivarma237
      @shalinivarma237 3 месяца назад

      Agreed it was all over social media and other places yesterday that the eritrean guy one of them at air b nb had been to jail over drug charges and supplying drugs. So maybe jay went back there to carry on partying 🤷‍♀️

  • @kisertherednose
    @kisertherednose 3 месяца назад +2

    People just churning videos out now because they get views it's disgusting.
    I been told his mother is Shannon Mathews mother's half sister is this true I mean they do look similar but is this just the internet internetting???

  • @leisastokes5358
    @leisastokes5358 3 месяца назад +3

    Private Stokes falling in line, Sir, reality check, check!

  • @hassallman1
    @hassallman1 3 месяца назад +2

    To be honest i think the conspiracy theories are going about because of his past. I understand no one is a saint but c'mon his past has done him no favours and he was clearly off his face on drugs the morning he went missing. I hope they find him cos you wouldn't wish this on anyone but i also think where there is smoke there is always fire. Unfortunately if he has got mixed up with the drug lords in Tenerife then it doesn't look good as they don't mess about.

    • @shalinivarma237
      @shalinivarma237 3 месяца назад

      The guys from air b nb the one weve heard about was drug supplier and went to prison. I guess we will never know what happened to jay, like with Nicola bully fir example where the police un Lancashire messed up. It's very sad indeed especially for his family.

  • @bambacska
    @bambacska 3 месяца назад +1

    Not wanting to see what is, is a copyng mechanism , too.

  • @marinad8715
    @marinad8715 3 месяца назад

    I’m amazed no one is using metal detectors to find the phone or him

  • @UKProperPrepper
    @UKProperPrepper 3 месяца назад

    There will be valid reason why the family and friends suspect foul play. Through past experiences or current knowledge of what he got up to on holiday...or maybe a combination of both.

  • @linlippy3358
    @linlippy3358 3 месяца назад

    I'm glad that there will be private searchers.
    #amazonhasnicksbooks

  • @deborah972
    @deborah972 3 месяца назад

    I hope he found safe and well 😢

  • @runtheworld26.2
    @runtheworld26.2 3 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for all the time and hard work you’ve put into this case. Your coverage is stellar.

    • @TCRS
      @TCRS  3 месяца назад +1

      Much appreciated