why in hell do so many people dislike this? yes, he's not the actual final boss, and he's closer to a minigame, but like, that's kinda the point. it's just one last celebration, it's not meant to be taken "seriously"
Honestly, this boss is a final skill check. You can cheese damage so easily by this point in the game, but you can't cheese defense. If you got this far by abusing broken strats, and still somehow don't know how to dodge or counter attacks well, this boss makes sure you aren't allowed to win until you do.
M&L Fan: "Man, Elder Princess Shroob is my favorite final boss! It was so emotional!" Me: "Okay, but Shrowser is the actual final bos-" M&L Fan: "SHUT THE FUCK UP."
Maybe this could've been better if it appeared before or even during the Elder Princess Shroob fight. Most of the complaints I've seen are the timing of the fight. So if it was in a different place, it could have been a better received boss. I mean, Ludwig in the Superstar Saga remake had pretty much the same mechanic, and we don't see anyone complaining about his boss, do we?
tbh i really Really disliked the ending before the shrowser fight it felt boring and incomplete so having the shrowser fight and then really ending the game made the ending way better in my personal opinion and Yes i greatly prefered the shrowser fight over elder princess shroob it was a great concept for an awesome final battle where bowser and elder princess shroob combined forces 😏
@@Kurumithespiritnightmareit’s quite funny that ss did this EXACT SAME THING and no one bats an eye but when PiT does it it’s an issue! It wouldn’t be that bad without shrowser but I like that they added it!
@@ssj4gogeta130 i agree with you it’s definitely frustrating knowing that fact alone people seem to just be angry about it in pit because bowsers the final boss again it’s all i can think of as a criticism and it’s stupid it was still a great battle as well as the one from super star saga the remake at least
I had an idea for the Remake version of Shrowser. So first up, no attacks as usual.. But what is different is the Elder Princess Shroob. She has a model of the Monster and Ghost version. She would have a different idle animation rather than doing a menacing animation instead as it is used when they are at the Fury stage.
So it would make more sense if it happened before we know anything about Elder Shroob?! Could it have been done better?! Possibly but while I don’t know for sure the reason I’m pretty sure the reason was to prove that Elder Princess is crazy and will stop at nothing to win at least when she’s breathing even if her breathing is very faint! Also some peoples reasons for it being bad is you can’t actually attack Shrowser! Really?! Since when does that make a boss good or bad all of the sudden things have to go your way for it to be good?! Shit by that logic when you fight the first 3 Shroobs where it’s impossible to win and the bros almost DIE that should’ve been the drawing point too! Superstar Saga did it with one of the koopalings (99.9% sure anyway!) and no one whined about it but when this game does it all of the sudden it’s a problem! Also people are saying it’s the worst boss in the Mario and Luigi series that is such bullshit and you know it too! Cackletta Soul for example is definitely worse than Shrowser as if you’re not perfect the game punishes harshly and she makes everything hard to dodge! Also Bowser X in both Bowser’s Inside Story could’ve been done better too but no one complained about it no “iTs A PerFecT ChAlleNge!” Like F off!
Are people seriously whining about this boss! The boss is fine not perfect but fine y’all just like to complain about anything atp! I’m like 99.9% sure this was to prove how crazy Elder Princess Shroob is and even when she “dies” she’s still alive and kicking it! Plus it’s Bowser you gotta have Bowser near the end somewhere winning or losing! Also the “you can’t attack during this boss!” Is quite honestly the weakest/lamest argument I’ve ever heard! Not everything in a video game has to “go your way” anyway I’ll give this boss an 8/10 could be better but not as bad as people are whining and bitching about!
Bro, it's horrible for a final fight. Almost every other fight in the game had better buildup than this. Shrowser was just an excuse to have Bowser as the final boss.
@@jeremiahgreen5632all I heard was whining like I said when you find a better argument come talk to me! ITS BOWSER FOR ONE AND ITS A MARIO GAME WHAT DO YOU FKING EXPECT! Ofc it’s not “the greatest!” Final boss but overall it’s alright! Cacklettas Soul was definitely better but Shrowser is still great like I said! Also just skipped everything I said about Elder Princess to support your narrative cuz you’re a jack*** CLOWN!
This might aswell be the worst Mario boss of all time. Why? It is incredibly easy to dodge and counter his/her attacks. You can’t even attack Shrowser. The worst thing is the game could have ended after defeating Elder Princess Shroob as she was challenging, had some buildup and also great music. Shrowser on the other hand comes right out of nowhere and just reuses the boss theme for Bowser and Baby Bowser. It’s a fine theme, but isn’t final boss material. In conclusion, Shrowser is not only the worst Mario and Luigi boss, but also the worst boss in any Mario game and one of the worst video game boss period.
@@citrusreality64 i really likeed both the shrowser fight and the ludwig boss fight in the seories and in my opinion shrowser was my second favorite boss in partners in time and No elder princess shroob wasn’t number one that honor goes to bowser and bowser jr i really liked the barrage mechanic in the shrowser fight it was a nice change to the original battle system and honestly a way better final boss than elder princess shroob
En conclusión shrowser el el peor jefe de este juego , de toda la saga de mario and luigi , de toda la franquicia de Mario y de los peores jefes de videojuegos
why in hell do so many people dislike this?
yes, he's not the actual final boss, and he's closer to a minigame, but like, that's kinda the point. it's just one last celebration, it's not meant to be taken "seriously"
Honestly, this boss is a final skill check. You can cheese damage so easily by this point in the game, but you can't cheese defense. If you got this far by abusing broken strats, and still somehow don't know how to dodge or counter attacks well, this boss makes sure you aren't allowed to win until you do.
So, a victory lap, basically.
Frfr@@SoulHero7
M&L Fan: "Man, Elder Princess Shroob is my favorite final boss! It was so emotional!"
Me: "Okay, but Shrowser is the actual final bos-"
M&L Fan: "SHUT THE FUCK UP."
As far as I remember, you need to watch the Tentacles very carefully to see who Shrowser is going to attack.
Left tentacle: Mario
Right Tentacle: Luigi
@@moronichybrid
In reality left for Luigi, right for Mario
Stand: Bowser
Stand user: Elder Shroob
Maybe this could've been better if it appeared before or even during the Elder Princess Shroob fight. Most of the complaints I've seen are the timing of the fight. So if it was in a different place, it could have been a better received boss. I mean, Ludwig in the Superstar Saga remake had pretty much the same mechanic, and we don't see anyone complaining about his boss, do we?
tbh i really Really disliked the ending before the shrowser fight it felt boring and incomplete so having the shrowser fight and then really ending the game made the ending way better in my personal opinion and Yes i greatly prefered the shrowser fight over elder princess shroob it was a great concept for an awesome final battle where bowser and elder princess shroob combined forces 😏
@@Kurumithespiritnightmarealso having the Shrowser fight before would make 0 sense!
@@ssj4gogeta130 agreed it wouldn’t make sense lol
@@Kurumithespiritnightmareit’s quite funny that ss did this EXACT SAME THING and no one bats an eye but when PiT does it it’s an issue! It wouldn’t be that bad without shrowser but I like that they added it!
@@ssj4gogeta130 i agree with you it’s definitely frustrating knowing that fact alone people seem to just be angry about it in pit because bowsers the final boss again it’s all i can think of as a criticism and it’s stupid it was still a great battle as well as the one from super star saga the remake at least
Shrowser isn't a boss, he is a minigame.
What's a finale without a Bowser appearance?
A cruddy finale, that's what.
Bowser but he’s high on shrooms
Nah possessed by one
more like high on shroobs
@@Pyrope_Multiverse_Protector Maybe it's the mushroom that's high on him.
Bowser figured out he could just not let you take your turn long before sans existed, that's kinda cool?
This feels so, so anticlimatic after defeating Elder Shroob, which was already exhausting due to having like 3 consecutive Boss Battles...
I had an idea for the Remake version of Shrowser.
So first up, no attacks as usual.. But what is different is the Elder Princess Shroob.
She has a model of the Monster and Ghost version.
She would have a different idle animation rather than doing a menacing animation instead as it is used when they are at the Fury stage.
What would’ve been interesting is to see a mutated bowser that had elder princess shroom as his power source.
isn't that what happened in this fight lol? or did you expect bowser to have a more transformed look after ingesting the shroom?
It's a cool concept, just put at the weirdest point in the game to be put it in
So it would make more sense if it happened before we know anything about Elder Shroob?! Could it have been done better?! Possibly but while I don’t know for sure the reason I’m pretty sure the reason was to prove that Elder Princess is crazy and will stop at nothing to win at least when she’s breathing even if her breathing is very faint! Also some peoples reasons for it being bad is you can’t actually attack Shrowser! Really?! Since when does that make a boss good or bad all of the sudden things have to go your way for it to be good?! Shit by that logic when you fight the first 3 Shroobs where it’s impossible to win and the bros almost DIE that should’ve been the drawing point too! Superstar Saga did it with one of the koopalings (99.9% sure anyway!) and no one whined about it but when this game does it all of the sudden it’s a problem! Also people are saying it’s the worst boss in the Mario and Luigi series that is such bullshit and you know it too! Cackletta Soul for example is definitely worse than Shrowser as if you’re not perfect the game punishes harshly and she makes everything hard to dodge! Also Bowser X in both Bowser’s Inside Story could’ve been done better too but no one complained about it no “iTs A PerFecT ChAlleNge!” Like F off!
@@ssj4gogeta130the reason why nobody hated Ludwig von koopa being like that is because he wasn't a final boss of his game
Are people seriously whining about this boss! The boss is fine not perfect but fine y’all just like to complain about anything atp! I’m like 99.9% sure this was to prove how crazy Elder Princess Shroob is and even when she “dies” she’s still alive and kicking it! Plus it’s Bowser you gotta have Bowser near the end somewhere winning or losing! Also the “you can’t attack during this boss!” Is quite honestly the weakest/lamest argument I’ve ever heard! Not everything in a video game has to “go your way” anyway I’ll give this boss an 8/10 could be better but not as bad as people are whining and bitching about!
Bro, it's horrible for a final fight. Almost every other fight in the game had better buildup than this. Shrowser was just an excuse to have Bowser as the final boss.
@@jeremiahgreen5632all I heard was whining like I said when you find a better argument come talk to me! ITS BOWSER FOR ONE AND ITS A MARIO GAME WHAT DO YOU FKING EXPECT! Ofc it’s not “the greatest!” Final boss but overall it’s alright! Cacklettas Soul was definitely better but Shrowser is still great like I said! Also just skipped everything I said about Elder Princess to support your narrative cuz you’re a jack*** CLOWN!
You gotta calm down man.
To be fair it was either this or Bowser in the real final boss, since I’m pretty sure Nintendo made them include him in every final boss in some form
@@jefferyandbob3137 Holy crap you're right. I've never noticed that.
OH NO, ES BOWSER POTENCIADO POR LA DROGA
Nice vid
Lugi fainted 💀
A pretty lousy final boss. Honestly, if you cut out this part in the game, nothing would change.
Agreed, it felt so tacked on, but the concept of only counter attacking was neat.
This my least favorite game because my favorite character getting possessed. R.I.H. Bowser.
Just kidding, I think youre good at beating bosses.
This might aswell be the worst Mario boss of all time. Why? It is incredibly easy to dodge and counter his/her attacks. You can’t even attack Shrowser. The worst thing is the game could have ended after defeating Elder Princess Shroob as she was challenging, had some buildup and also great music. Shrowser on the other hand comes right out of nowhere and just reuses the boss theme for Bowser and Baby Bowser. It’s a fine theme, but isn’t final boss material. In conclusion, Shrowser is not only the worst Mario and Luigi boss, but also the worst boss in any Mario game and one of the worst video game boss period.
@@citrusreality64 i really likeed both the shrowser fight and the ludwig boss fight in the seories and in my opinion shrowser was my second favorite boss in partners in time and No elder princess shroob wasn’t number one that honor goes to bowser and bowser jr i really liked the barrage mechanic in the shrowser fight it was a nice change to the original battle system and honestly a way better final boss than elder princess shroob
Even worse, you can't use your own attacks on him.
Keir Jarvie
Well you know what Bowser from ttyd said: "what's a finale without a bowser appearance? a cruddy finale, that's what"
@@Kurumithespiritnightmare It's Baby Bowser.
@@jacobvanantwerp2001 yea i just like calling him bowser jr
Shrowser is e zz - easy
En conclusión shrowser el el peor jefe de este juego , de toda la saga de mario and luigi , de toda la franquicia de Mario y de los peores jefes de videojuegos
Calma cara kkkkkkkkkkk