Their vote is not only immoral,racist, misogynistic, homophonic, etc, we are now being even more attacked by these Maga's. We are now being openly attacked by Maga's
Steve Hassan a cult expert wrote a book the cult of Trump which explains what happened. We are f*cked at levels that hasn’t even begun to sink in. When the hypnotic trance breaks, people will be heartbroken. THIS IS A CULT! Trump will do everything he says until the backlash is too great.
@@stevemcqueen2663 Ah, too stupid to understand the morality argument proposed by the op, I see. Typical maga. Ignorant of most things and especially morality and what constitutes good vs bad morals. Thus and therefore, maga idiots follow a criminal, a tax evader, a sex predator, a narcissistic a-hole that cares for no one but himself.
Here’s the thing - I’m not breaking up with THEM. They broke up with ME when they said me and my family are worthless. I’m simply honoring their wishes.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@SerendipityChild while that is true, puppets who are lobbing grenades are dangerous. They are absolutely my enemy if they are voting to hurt me. Its like saying soldiers aren't the enemy when it's the government that's responsible. If they are allowing themselves to be used as weapons, they are the enemy, regardless of who is pulling the strings. There is little I can do to protect myself from their masters. I can protect myself from individuals and their actions more effectively. Can't have solidarity with people who refuse to engage. One sided solidarity attempts only lead to being harmed and taken advantage of.
@@SerendipityChildthere is no solidarity with magga look my father was a psychopath narcissist like trump u can’t trust them and they love seeing u suffer we see the tick ticks laughing at people’s pain that trump won they call us names put us down they really enjoy us hurting all rich look down on all people
"If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis." - An old German quote You are not losing your friends over Politics. You are losing them over Ethics and Integrity.
Look Pelosi, Biden, and the elderly dem establishment throttled progressive activism and messages for far too long. They anointed Kamala instead of holding 4 regional town halls yielding at least the appearance of a primary season did incalculable damage. Ignoring crypto and young men were mistakes they lacked time to recover from
I say this regularly to people except I typically say it with sexism and racism, however NOW nazis are so normal again that the old phrase actually works. I hate it here.
@@triofan9fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost. Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time.
@ Nancyr here’s some humor for you. someone said, have you ever seen a republican who wasn’t corrupt or sneaky? the next person said, yes i saw one standing by a unicorn but then i woke up, lol. Vancypants, someone on reddits asked, what is threads? the next person said, it’s what’s left of the couch when JD’s done with it, lol. MTG thinks that democrats can control the weather. if we could we’d have sent an F in tornado her way long ago. someone on X said, torrential rains over her house 24/7. hope this gave you a chuckle and have a great day today 👺👊👊👊🐁🐀🐷🐄🐓🐔🐮🐈🐈🐈⬛🐈⬛🐶🐶🐶🗳️💙🦋👋👍🏼😇
I ended an almost 40 year friendship with someone because they voted for Trump. I kept hearing people say "You ended a friendship because of politics?" I said "No I ended a friendship because I don't feel comfortable around them anymore." End of story.
I agree with you for me. I can’t be friends with anybody who sold their soul to the devil that have no honor and no morals. They gave up their principles for that guy. I will not respect someone who did that.
Same I had a 16 years friendship with this this one guy who came from Poland back in 94 when I had met him no English no nothing I didn't really chill with him as much until freshman year long story short I started noticing his antics when he met his future wife on fb and she was also from his county but she was racist but he had his other friends chill with him who was polish except me so this kept going on and in from 08 all the way until 2020 I completely just told him I don't want to be friends with him anymore called him out for his BS cuz he kept talking about Hispanics and other people who he wasn't fond of I mean yes there stuff I disagree with but for the most part I just mind my buisness especially if they aren't huring me or nothing long story short I cussed him out and told him you wrre fake all along cuz u love trump so we can't be friends so him sling with everyone else I hung with in the group completely ignored me and don't talk to me anymore good riddance I'm 35 years old I know who my real friends are anyways
@@BenFoster-cx4em you guys are the fake ones who gave up everything for that pathetic excuse for a human. I don’t know how you guys can. Look yourself in the mirror and respect yourselves. Disgusting disgusting disgusting!!!!
I'm a Cuban whose parents voted for Trump. They came here ILLEGALLY 36 years ago and were able to gain residency, citizenship, etc. The level of betrayal I feel is truly unparalleled. How could they do this to other immigrants? How do they not see they're going to be on the chopping block because they didn't come legally, regardless of their current status? How could they do so much to give me rights, opportunities, and a true chance at a good future and then just vote all of that away?? My brother is gay. I'm bisexual and they've been supportive of both until now. This is absurd on their part. No matter what their reasoning for voting for trump, they had to willingly overlook the fact that he's a rapist, a criminal, a scam artist, all of it. I'm absolutely heartbroken.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@@urhurd She needs a divorce and a safe place to be free. If she can't get her mindset there yet, educate her on the BITE Model of Authoritarian Control. If she can learn it and practice it, she will be the best person to set him free from the twisted mind control he has succumbed to. I have a friend whose dad went complete maga. He was only able to cure him by getting into his phone and computer and blocking the propaganda that had taken over his algorithm. It only took a week to convert him back to his old self after that. Now he regrets ever supporting him.
No no, don't be mean to him and make things difficult, just behave like he doesn't even exists. That bothers people more than anything and you won't be labeled a trouble maker. Be the peaceful but stern one in this situation. Good luck... ❤
At 75 years old I don’t have any extra time to waste on people who refuse to see what is right in front of them. I have loved this country my whole life, but now feel only ashamed. We once gave the world something to aspire to, we now show them something to avoid.
65 yr-old white guy here, this was about morals, ethics, principles, and if a person voted for trump, well, I will be civil but don't EVER expect me to spend my "free" time around them. Especially if they are immediate family, which I have declined their invite to TG Dinner last week! No time left for those who choose to hide the hate in their hearts for too many years.
I finally had enough of my friends stupidity. At a friends gathering for a birthday party, I let the Trumptards there have it. I'm a quiet, introverted person and never say much. I had a so-called friend make a rude Trump comment to my wife. I called him out right in front of everyone. I showed him exactly what a real friend is. I went right down the line and showed how I voted for all our friends' best interest and how he voted against them. Then, I asked the room, "Who was the real friend here?" I pointed out how some of the women here have been assaulted. I pointed out how some here are on some type of assistance. I pointed out how some are having trouble having children. I pionted out the child tax credit. I pointed out how many got turned down for a home loan and that 50k would help. I asked him to name one thing he voted for that was going to help anyone in the room. Crickets!
I ditched all trump supporters after the election. I spent 9 years trying to understand and get through to these people. These people don't share my morals or values. I can agree to disagree with people about policy but not human rights.
@@Here4TheHeckOfIt Yeah I think I misinterpreted the original post. I strayed from the original content of how to deal with family, friends, and associates that supported Trump to Trump versus Harris as candidates. My bad but I’m just in that mindset. My feelings on the topic at hand is I would rather not know they are Trump supporters because if they indicate they are my opinion of them instantly plunges. I try to remain civil and steer clear of discussing politics.
I’m selling my condo and will now get myself a different real estate agent. The real estate agent I had for the last few years is a Trump supporter. I’m not giving her my money!
European here. We were forced to follow the U.S. elections, like it or not. What a total circus it was. Yet, we held onto a sliver of hope that basic decency would prevail. Turns out, we put our faith in a society that seems morally fractured. We-and by "we," I mean not just Europeans, but also the Americans who voted against Trump-already know how this ends: broken promises, shattered lives, and the decline of America as a global leader. Frankly, we wouldn’t care so much if your mistakes didn’t affect us, too. But they do. Not just economically or mentally, but physically. Many of our lives depend on the decisions made by that orange disaster you’ve elected. If russia attacks us, we'll call Article 5, if US comes - we live, if not - we die. And that makes us angry & hopeless. There’s also this overwhelming sense of loss-a loss of trust in the nation we once looked to as the leader of the free world. The country wrapped in stars and stripes, with eagles soaring overhead, has just taken a turn so sharp, so unpredictable, that the consequences for all of us are unknowable. And that’s what’s most disheartening: we haven’t just lost confidence in America, we’ve lost the America we believed in. I regret that I never had a chance to see it.
I feel the same. I feel like I have disassociated from myself and am watching this perversion of our government. It’s horrifying and I cry for my young adult sons and the entire younger generation.
Well then maybe you should have been TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES instead of gloating and scolding an american working class that *HAS NO ACCESS to healthcare, education, housing, free time, paid vacation or *ANY* of the things you take for granted living comfortable cushy lives in thriving social democracies while we are trapped in a Dickensian neo-liberal post-industrial dystopian hellscape*. The American people KNOW you don't really care about us-- and they've stopped caring about you too, in return. They are tired of subsidizing you so that YOU can have everything that we LACK. And in their wrath because the Democratic party will NEVER heed the people or do what they want and need... they've decided to end it all. Because most of us (even many of us who would never vote for trump) think it has been nothing but a sham and a charade for our whole lives. My generation had the antidote to this poison-- we had a youth movement and a positive populism with Bernie... and the *DEMOCRATS* worked to *CRUSH*. THEY said "we'd rather have fascism than ever pay our taxes or take our boot off the necks of the working class" and they GOT IT. People are TIRED of being hostages if we're going to live short miserable lives anyway toiling endlessly for the debauch of our inhuman monstrous soulless elders who have devoured the planet and cannibalized our future while they laugh and mock us for it... then we find more dignity in letting the world end.
Speaking as an American and a veteran, I genuinely apologize. I can feel your sadness through your eloquently stated comment. I believe we've greatly left the world (except for America's enemies) disheartened, disgusted, disappointed, and terrified. I have never been more ashamed of being an American. Never felt so betrayed by my own countrymen. I wholeheartedly believe this election result was a spit in the face to every single person, past and present, who sacrificed their lives for democracy and the freedoms these trump voters take for granted. They have no idea what they've done to our country and to our allies.
Ppl still have a human duty to forgive and set indifference aside. By continuing hate it won’t end. It will just continue and get worse. Ppl should understand that we all came from parents who taught what they knew. If they didn’t teach you right you should break the cycle and learn to do right. To respect one another to treat ppl anyone with dignity. How divided ppl are if only everyone knew it shouldn’t be like this.
@@mitchellshuster8563 but that kind of reasoning is why things are expected to get worse unfortunately and the reason many more ppl will suffer. We are causing each other these pains. I will continue to have love for other ppl. And although I don’t talk much in person I will do the best to do what I can to help anyone however I can.
@@jdos5643i cannot be friends with someone who votes for people who literally wish to see me dead. Im sorry but fuck them. You dont get my respect or decency when you are trying to fuck with my right to exist.
I broke up with my bff because he thinks that women who can't get an abortion in their state should have to travel, and if they can't travel and they die, then its natural selection. I literally walked out on the spot. This was my best friend, we had debated over the years, but to hear this level of cruelty, I don't want that in my life.
I have to say as a 65 yr old white woman, I am ashamed of the women who voted for Trump. Black women understood the assignment, how you could fail all women so miserably and vote against your own best interests I can’t now or ever will understand and I just don’t want you in my life. I kept them before to try and change their minds but not anymore. It’s sickening
I dropped my doctor, I am about to drop my cardiologist, I dropped my barber, we dropped some friends. I will not patronize any trump people, I will have nothing to do with them, no decent person votes for trump a second time. Period, full stop. So NO!
So if your car broke down in a rural area with no cell service and a guy with a trump flag in a truck offered to help you would just tell him to fuck off?
@@Saturnfan94 It could be an occasion to talk bold turkey about choices. I'd say that actions like what he has proposed add greatness to America, thank you very much, but Trump is every day more and more of a clown and a pretender and even his friends are telling him he's going too far. So what does he want to be loyal to? The real thing or the make believe? It could result in him storming off, or it could make a light bulb illuminate in his head. If he storms off, nothing was lost compared to telling him to get lost right off the bat. Or even play along and let him think you're submissive, but then give him the talk about choices afterwards. That way he can't undo the repair.
They do if they are brainwashed with right wing propaganda (that makes the believe lies are truth and truth are lies), Trump's antics, nonsense, lies, and hate sprinkled with ugly truths (that no one believes, because he lies so much), and MAGA communities to spread and reinforce lies and hate (of immigrants, liberals, transgender) while giving a sense of social bonding and positive reinforcement to solidify the beliefs.
@@Saturnfan94not interacting with trump supporters is most likely the safest thing to do. You’re willing to vote against your best interest and fellow Americans why would anyone assume you’d offer to help in good faith…?
The fact that we just had an election with a candidate who we knew would never ever concede tells you all you need to know: We are a stupid nation. That insurrection is the biggest deal-breaker for me. It should be a non-starter for there even being a possibility of him being president.
Absolutely not. I just blocked my friend of 20+ years because she voted for trump. I cannot ignore a vote for racism, misogyny, anti vaxx etc. it's a question of morality.
1) You voted for a self avowed racist. Harris made a public statement (after "affirmative action" was struck down) and stated her support for racial discrimination against millions of Americans. 2) Before COVID reached the UK then we knew from other countries (E.g. Italy) exactly which groups were in any realistic danger (The extreme elderly / People with specific illnesses). If you're not in either of these groups then not taking the vaccine leaves you at MINIMAL risk while taking it leaves you at UNKNOWN risk. Anyone not in the vulnerable groups who chooses not to take the vaccine has logically made a sensible choice. Trying to smear them as "anti-vaxxers" is ignorant.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me what the appeal is. He's a fraud, and a rapist. He's a failure, a racist, a liar, a fool, and an egocentric brute. His every promise was monstrous, foolish, or both. Every vote for him endorsed every part of him, no matter what else may have been appealing. This is the point where ignorance and malice have converged.
Not only have I started dismissing my MAGA friends, I've also fully and permanently disowned all of my MAGA family which includes both of my sisters and my father. I said to my father "you can have your hate and bigotry, or you can have a son. Make a choice." He did not choose me. The thing is, I'm a middle aged, hetero, white, former Republican male and even I knew how destructive the MAGA Trumpanzee cult mentality is for society.
Exactly! That’s what I told my sister. I used to give her money because she has always been a poor money manager. After she said that she couldn’t vote democrat because she is “Christian”, I said, she just voted me out of her life. My Christian compassion expired on November 6.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@@SerendipityChild Except that metaphor omits the presence of sentience and the ability to choose and think critically. The puppets in this case are the ones who chose the puppetmaster so the fault lies with them.
No, you can’t be friends with a Trump supporter. I will not even interact with a Trump supporter if I can help it. I already know all I need to know about them.
Exactly. And as for people who are like: "well I voted for him, because of the cost of living" sorry... but "I voted for Hitler 2.0, because eggs are expensive" is not a good enough argument for me.
That's true of 40 or 50 million. But the rest? Do you know what searches are trending on google right now? "How do I change my vote?" and "Am I stupid?" if you aren't able to speak to those people and get them on-side as workers who have no free time and have had a very poor education (by design) then you'll never able to do what needs to be done practically or politically to save this country and species.
You're dishonest. You tried to elect a self avowed racist (Harris) who made a public statement (after "affirmative action" was struck down) calling for racial discrimination against millions of Americans. You don't like that decent Americans who oppose racism stopped you.
@@rhlang11 Exactly... Some of them never look at reputable news sources. It's all filtered thru pundits who couch it in "peaceful protest" or "Dems infiltrated the protest and started the violence"
Imagine if that was the Dems that did that. We allllllready know the bloodbath and what the reaction would have been. Their support for this man after that absolute shitshow tells us a whole lot.
Gay women married to my wife with two young children here. Our entire family voted for Trump and fully intended to strip us of our rights. We are done. Looking into moving out of the country. This is so hard
All I’m thinking is … with ALL of his hateful rhetoric, how COULD they? I’m sorry your family is in the low information, high on the gullibility spectrum voters and they could not see past their own noses as to who’s in their own family. Good luck to you during these dark and scary times. 🧡💖✨
It was blind reactionary even if they disagree about the sex entailed. (I've long wondered why we can't have dual-head tax households that gain the legal benefits of marriage even if it's a brother and sister who know not to try to mate with one another -- or at least two brothers or two sisters with which that is inherently impossible.)
Do proper research on what country will suit you best. Canada as I understand are pretty ok cool laid back with lgbtq+. so is my country, most European countries are, do deep dive research because its not just a leave USA , its housing work taxes etc. Wish you and family good speed and I press fingers you find THE country for you.
I dumped most of my friends as well. I was horrified they voted for him. I can’t support a racist, rapi$t, bigot or anyone else who supports dismantling this country. I’ve always stood by my morals and I will continue to do so
We need to ban together and organize for social justice. We must be loud and not obey in advance. Think back to the second industrial age (MASSIVE governmental / corporate corruption) and the progressive period that came after. We will prevail. Hand in there. Please reach out to any trusted individuals close to you to create community and then fight back.
Tolerance is a social contract. If someone breaks it, they are no longer covered by it. Period. Trying to convince good people to tolerate intolerant individuals is how we got here in the first place. Sure, get through to the people who are get-able if you have the spoons, but don't expend energy you don't have in order to be "fair" or whatever to someone who doesn't value the social contract. They already opted out. That's on them. I'll die on this hill. My right to exist and my daughter's right to exist shouldn't be fodder for national debate. And neither should yours. 💙
I've been around enough Maga men to know that cruelty is their objective. We are getting way ahead ourselves trying to forgive people who haven't even started their rampage of evil.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets. They use your social contract agaisnt you
@@donnajensen5486 thanks! I can't take credit for the facts, but these are my words. This is an idea that came out of WWII. I have a cool infographic that says more but can't share that here, unfortunately.
As a white heterosexual, male, very little of Trump's actions are going to affect me as opposed to other demographics. However, I still have compassion for those who are not like me and by supporting trump, it indicates that we have opposing values. I demand higher standards for people I choose to be around. I have deleted several former friends and family members from my life because of this. I assumed they were better people, and I was wrong.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I got rid of my friends and family that are MAGA back in 2016…and I don’t miss them 🤷🏼♀️. What I didn’t realize is how Drama free my life would be and that I didn’t need anything from them but they lost out on my generosity. Everyone should do it because not having them in your life is so liberating!
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets.
I am Canadian and didn't experience as much of this directly, but his anti-vaccine/anti-mask ridiculousness bled over here. I ditched all of those people in my family and friend circle too. If you can't handle the inconvenience of a mask to try to help not make people sick, you're just not a good person. Such a simple and easy decision to make to make things better for other people. If they can't do that, of course they can't make decisions for others when those decisions are hard.
I've got a cousin who is a lesbian, a very nice person and an animal lover to the point where she has an animal refuge, and she loves the orange turd...she is everything he hates...I just don't get these people
I heard one fleeting line, perhaps shared by Crooked or Meidas or Bulwark, about cable news networks getting a temporary reprieve due to some Trump action or policy. So they know they've lost relevance but will only make short term moves in the wrong direction!
It galled me how so call legitimate organizations and media treated him like he was golden while slamming our heroine, Kamala. I cancelled my subscriptions to NY Times etc and will be streaming as long as that S’hol and his minions funk up the WH.
I'm Trans, anyone who voted for Trump is assumed to hate me family or otherwise. They can all rot, I will laugh as they lose their own benefits and support systems.
@Techlax43 millions of people care that family and friends are voting for their oppression, for the loss of their rights, etc. I genuinely can't imagine anyone that wouldn't care if it was happening to them.
As a trans person, I can not be around any Trump supporters anymore to protect my space. I have tried for years to explain to my loved ones that the Republican Party's ultimate goal is to strip my rights and remove people like me from society and they will refuse to hear me. Even when presented with actual facts they dismiss them as "fake news"... I can still love them but it will now be from a distance. I also agree that bigotry has been normalized and it is up to all of us to call out and reject that behavior loudly and that can include cutting ties.
could you elaborate what policies they suggest that do so? I come from eastern europe and don't know much about american trans community struggles beyond puberty blockers issue
@@EarlyRiser71 Gonna assume you’re not a fan, so in *my* opinion, she had a pretty solid tax plan that would’ve put more money back into the middle class. Taxes would’ve been lower for anyone making less than $400k (so, you know, most Americans) and higher for those who make more. Also, she wanted to revive and make permanent the American Rescue Plan Act child tax credit and increase the CTC for newborns to $6,000 in the first year of life, making it a *little* easier to have kids. And providing a $25k tax credit for first-time homebuyers over four years seemed pretty cool. There you go, you get three policies that *I* think are good. You don’t have to agree with me.
as a 70 year old, i have learned much over the years. i have no interest in being around ignorant people. racist people. so for me, i avoid them as much as possible.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Fool me over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, welcome to MAGA!
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
...Yes, Welcome Sir and Madam. Come to our MAGA safe-space, where all your happiest dreams will come true. Like you wouldn't believe! And can I interest you in a Holy Bible, carefully made in China? But not the China that gave us the "China" Virus.
Forbes has a list some include: Home Depot, Tesla, WhatsApp,Uline shipping,Marvel Ent, Ameritrade,Wynn Hotel,Johnson and Johnson,Gemini Crypto, world wrestling, Mellon Banking, Mountaire Farms Chicken, Lots of oil mags of course
Young white woman here. I cannot be friends with people that voted for Trump, it comes down to human rights and decency. My mother voted for trump, she has 11 daughters… I will not be talking to her much anymore, and I’m skipping thanksgiving cause I’m not great at holding my tongue lol
I am a 70 year old woman, who always hosts the holidays. My husband's best friend of 40 years is not invited this year, I feel it is so sad, but he called my husband brain washed because we will not support trump. Enough, your hate is showing , or in his case maybe just ignorance. The crazy thing, I know he came to this country illegally, but he had a green card for years and unfortunately last year became a citizen.
@@gerifridriksson9366 You claim this person is hateful, yet you're sorry he earned citizenship? Dearie, you are the hateful one, he's done well to be rid of you.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@@eileene.5870it neede to be said, too many dumbass sheeple around, the sheeple are just as bad as the trumpers, nonresearch, no critical thinking. And hes rightz its what the gilovernment and rich want. Dumbasses who only know to work. Its basically slavery
It has gone past politics into our morals, integrity, character, and compassion. There is currently no intersection with Trump supporters. They voted for our ruination, stupidly.
I'm a far-left liberal, but I have some friends who voted Trump. They have integrity, morals, character and compassion. They felt they were voting for the "lesser of two evils" because of all the propaganda that has been thrown at them from social media algorithms. I don't like their choice, but I view their situation as similar to Russian citizens who consume Russian state-run propaganda. They have been lied to 24/7 for so long by incessant and obnoxious propaganda that it's hard for them to think outside of their box. I usually don't discuss politics with them - there are plenty of other things we bond over. IMO, if we don't try to reach out to those 74 million Trump voters in one way or another, we're setting ourselves up for more MAGA moron presidents in the future.
@triofan9 fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost. Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time
I'm sorry. But your political organization did not speak to the people's needs and concerns, so they're not stupid... you had a weak candidate. Was not strong. She did not relate or speak to people, she did not speak to those white men. She did not speak to the middle of the country. Not everyone lives on the blue wall not everyone are coastal Democrats.. The lead the country.. and all of the Dems that live on the coast of our country.. is it very small minority.. and if you don't speak to the rest of the country. People are not going to vote for you and want you to be there later.. so you can call them stupid all you want to... why, because of abortion.. that not the number one thing that's concerning to America's right now activate the number one thing is putting food on their tables and making sure that their family is okay. And represent something that they believe in..
If the number one thing is putting food on the table and making sure their family is okay, how do you square that with the coming tariffs that will make inflation surge, the threat to our health care, the threat to clean and and water, the threat to free speech, the disintegration of our government. How is all that supportive of making your family ok? Maybe we will all be eating the cats, eating the dogs. SMH.
I just went through all of my friends lists on my social media apps and unfriended everyone who voted for Trump. I told my family I wouldn't be attending the annual family reunion at Christmas this year. I also sent my stepfather a text letting him know that I would no longer be visiting him, nor is he invited to my home. I told him that my family wasn't coming to Thanksgiving next week at his house. Sadly, they bought a huge turkey but will have to eat it all alone since we'll be celebrating with people who are ACTUALLY grateful for our freedoms and vote to protect our democracy. Too bad, so sad.
Me too! Even husband and male grandkids. I feel better now. I just wrote A message on Facebook saying" If you voted for Trump, please remove me. I am no friend of yours."
I am trans. This vote felt like and pretty much is a fight for my life. I have been speaking up about all of this since last year. I was super early in raising awareness of Project 2025. I cannot excuse any friends of mine who willfully votes for him with that knowledge. If they are MAGA, they are dead to me. I will offer leniency only to those who really were that out of the loop and that ignorant but they are on very thin ice, need to understand what they did and accept culpability for voting against me and people like me with that vote and that they are going to be kept to a certain distance while because my wellbeing and emotional state will not allow them to be closer while the real fight is about to start. Ignorance is not innocence and while they can mend fences, damage has been done
My heart goes out to you as of all the insane changes Trump is going to enforce the on that will be absolutely harmed the most are the PRIDE committee. Especially Trans people as these Christian( misnomer) Nationalists are out to destroy America Rights. We are under a Dictatorship Playbook of 2025 ...Please be strong....keep your head up and feel NO shame .. MAGA's are the shame. Destroying our country
I'm 46, Trans, my brother is a Trump supporter, makes me really sad. I still talk to him because I hope to one day change his mind by showing up consistently
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them. The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I am a white 66 yo veteran and retired union construction worker.I am proud to say I have not voted for a republican ever! History will not be kind to MAGA.!!!
Thank you and thank you for your service. I’m a Navy vet and you cannot pay me to vote for the conservative agenda, none of them are good nor good for the public.
@@susanjraby3338 I think of how Reagan got his landslide victory. All those blue collar union guys who voted for him. Then Reagan green lighted the Corps to go for concessions, wages have never been the same. They regret that to this day.
@triofan9 fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost. Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time
yet apparently a lot of women voted for him. I cannot understand why so many women want to be slaves to the state. Women in Australia had equal rights to men for 65,000 years, it was white christians from Britain came to Australia in 1788 and found out women had equal rights and started slaughtering my ancestors because god can`t have women with equal rights. After all it was men who created god to take the gift of life away from women.
She wasn't that good (which is why she had even less votes than Biden, who was also mediocre)...voters/workers want a candidate (like Bernie, but younger) they know stands for them, and isn't somewhat beholden to their wealthy corporate political donors. The Dems need to become grass roots, and trusted by the working class.
@@RP_Williams More than anything the Dems need a major overhaul because losing to Trump twice in a "Trifecta' type loss is catastrophic .Even Biden would not have lost so bad. Thats a sign of too many incompetent Dems in the party
I told 2 blokes I really liked I couldn't be friends with them anymore. They thought telling me about him & winding me up was funny. I know more about politics & have more experience in politics than them & anyone they know. I have no regrets. Hate & me are the opposite.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I have some friends who supported Trump in 2016. None of them still did by the end of his first term. I'll forgive them for learning from being fooled once.
Kept my mouth shut for the past eight years not wanting to stir it up, but they felt free to rant to me. Done being nice and frankly just done with them. Nothing more foolish than arguing with a fool.
My sister a philosophy and multicultural studies major who is on disability, has 3 children, had her student loans forgiven and got some great government loans to purchase her house voted for this guy. In my heart she is dead to me. I had to give her money to purchase gifts for her children’s birthday this year and her husband works in manufacturing. I’ll never understand and question how I can ever forgive her for this.
Forgive her to free yourself of the burden of harboring ill will. Accept your own feelings about what might be construed as a betrayal by your sister. If you are stepping back from the relationship let her know that you need some time. Avoid saying things like “I never want to see you or talk to you again”, because in the future you may want or need to see her and talk to her. Keep a light on. Those who are lost may need to find their way home.
Forgiving doesn’t mean you have to re-engage in the same level of relationship you had. I’ve long forgiven my ex, and, prior to his death, we were on good terms when we spoke. It doesn’t mean that we were ever going to go back to being a couple. You can forgive, because that frees you. But, you can also maintain an entirely different type of relationship with the person, even if that means the relationship consists of much less contact.
The mainstream corporate media CEOs were all republican $$$ donors. They sanewash the madman and try to pretend they're left leaning. They can all fuck off.
As a 78 year old men I have no use for Trump and Trump supports. I changed my hair stylist who I’ve been going to many years after I found out she is a Trump support.
I’m a 40 year old white guy in rural PA who can’t fathom voting for that trash sack or any of his party. I’m basically a hermit in this sea of red hats now and I don’t regret not connecting with these people anymore.
I'm a 46 year old white guy in Texas. I've been outspoken against tangerine Mussolini since day one. The only family I still talk to are my two daughters. And the oldest is a teacher who left the state because she didn't want to teach here.
Totally agree with you. Corporate media sanewashed Trump. The NYT has done 196 negative articles on Biden's mental decline vs 6-10 negative articles on Trump's mental decline during the same time period.
I've tolerated a lot from family over the last decade or so, and I'm done. They expect perfect tolerance and understanding, but never does it go the other way.
I get the sentiment, but not everyone cares about their siblings or parents. Just because you are genetically related and grew up with them, does not always mean you have a connection.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I can't believe we have a presidential elect that makes us question whether our friends and family voted for him because they're racist, tolerant of racism, or willing to look the other way because they believe he can save the economy. The lines are so freaking blurred and it's mentally exhausting.
Kamala Harris is literally a self avowed racist. She went on TV and made a public statement after "affirmative action" was struck down and she expressed support for racial discrimination against millions of Americans.
That's what orange ass does he leaves dead bodies, broken families, and destroyed livelyhoods in his wake! Pays to be woke before u lose everything and everybody in your life! 🤬
The reality is that the economy is actually doing very well. We do have higher prices because of the inflation due to Covid and it has been hard paying that money. But imagine the higher prices along with a recession. In the long run, he is not going to be good for the economy. Not only the tariffs, but his relationships with other countries will harm it as well. They are all going to be looking to get away from the US in as many ways as possible now that they know how untrustworthy we are.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother. They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
Mir geht es genauso. Ich habe einen Freund, Afro-Amerikaner, der immer mehr in Verschwörungsmythen abdriftet und jeden Mist glaubt. Der kam auch an mit: Kamalas Lache ist furchtbar, plötzlich ist sie Schwarz geworden und sie hat sehr viele Schwarze ins Gefängnis gesteckt (Lüge aus dem Wahlkampf von 2020). Zum Glück hat er nicht gewählt. Ich tue mich eh schon schwer mit ihm, aber das wäre es dann gewesen. Es geht nicht um Politik, sondern um Moral. Und jemandem, der so offensichtlich gegen mich als Frau und gegen meine Töchter wählt, dem kann ich nicht vertrauen. Übrigens geht es mir mit den Blauzis um Faschist Höcke genauso.
@@TheNetOwlI cannot speak for EVERY german person and most germans I know don't care about american politics and consider ME bizarre bc I watch CNN every day since 2016. Nobody I know gave a shite about Jan6 😢😢😢😢 I do 🙏😔😔 I watched it live and even IF 💩🍊 had lost, the damage is done. Repeating lies, getting away with stuff that made me speechless like Bannon asking for Dr. Fauci's head on a stick in front of the White House and more.. I feel so sorry for all american women being deprived of their fundamental rights 😢😢😢 I wonder how long ppl voting for 💩🍊 will take to realize that EVERYTHING he said was a lie..
In 2016 I could still be friends with someone who voted for Trump, because he was new and they could've made a mistake. But this time around I am done with all these aholes. It's not only friends and family I am done with, but I unfollow any celebrity or channel that supports Trump. And let me tell you, it makes life easier. I don't have to deal with so much stupidity anymore.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” - Issac Asimov
It’s tragic that individuals from both blue-collar and white-collar backgrounds, as well as those from the lower and middle classes, voted for billionaires who lack empathy and understanding of their struggles. These billionaires even hold them accountable for their inability to achieve success in their lives.
my son went against his daughters and his sister and voted trump. I will not talk to him. I will not go to thanksgiving at my daughters because he will be there.
I did all of my talking and informing over the last eight years. I tried to explain to people that I love that this is not going to be good for them. Now I'm done talking.
This is beyond politics now. We've already fallen for the tolerance paradox, and the intolerant have taken power. "The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance."
It’s sooo important that we pull back our resources and build new community with people we are more in alignment with. I’ve actually been doing that for over a decade and it’s been AMAZING. The community I have now have been so much more supportive than my blood relatives. We even barter. ❤
My father is a Trump supporter, and we cannot have a constructive conversation regarding politics so it’s difficult. We will never have the kind of relationship I ultimately want, but he will always be my dad. I have, however, removed any friends that are Trump supporters from my life.
i removed a lifelong friend, a longtime friend and an actual biological cousin because they are bigoted trumpers, and we' not even americans, we're in canada
"As long as you're not making a huge effort to understand why I am feeling betrayed by your vote, we cannot be in contact. This is not about being for different teams, it's about so many people's humanity being questioned, their safety and human rights being on the chopping block. And I am one of those people. I should be more important to you than the price of effing eggs."
With most of them, no, but there are few that conversations will help. Maybe you haven't met such a person yet, but they do exist. And, maybe, it's a good thing to stay a wee bit open for those people, if ever one of them crosses one's path.
Nancyr i doubt that she’s a christian then, bc true christians accept people for whatever beliefs they have. she might be a christian nationalist, the farthest thing from a christian as you can get
I'm a member of a labor union. I actually sit on the board. We very strongly endorsed Harris because she is pro-labor union. We have about 50% of the membership that worships Trump despite the fact that a Trump presidency could very well mean the dismantling of labor unions for the next generation. It's a big ass deal that he got elected and it's terrifying. I have to work with these people every single day. I should also mention this is a construction labor union and women like me make up 3%. I can't not go to work and I'm certainly not going to step down from my leadership position because I'm surrounded by Trump idiots. I think the Local has taken a sit back, wait and see what he does approach. I really wish that we could ask people's political leanings when we interview people. But I'm pretty sure that's against the law. A union member who votes for Trump is a traitor and should not be in a labor union. They can go work non-union and make 50% of what we're making with no benefits for all I care. These same assholes think they know what's better for the union than the union itself, because Fox News tells them so. idiots.
I am in IATSE and we are pretty evenly split, gender-wise, and in a very Blue state. We have maybe less than 5% of our members being Trump supporters, but about 60 % of non member workers 9:17 we represent on a gig to gig basis are Trumpistas. They think he’s “ Working class”, which says a lot about education and the study of basic Civics around here.
Let them know the next time you're coming from come up for renewal and they don't get what they want that it's their fault, if their asses got scorched they're the ones that put them in the frying pan 🍳. And that you did the best that they could that you could even though the individually might be undeserving. 🤡
They are brainwashed with right wing propaganda (that makes them believe lies are truth and truth are lies), Trump's antics, nonsense, lies, and hate sprinkled with ugly truths (that no one believes, because he lies so much), and MAGA communities to spread and reinforce lies and hate (of immigrants, liberals, transgender) while giving a sense of social bonding and positive reinforcement to solidify the beliefs. The Trump campaign didn't hack the voting machines. They hacked the voters. They are victims too.
It’s not a difference in policy preferences, it’s down to morals. I don’t align myself with people who have bad morals. Simple as that. Let them enjoy the time with their new friends
As an old black man, I can't and will not tolerate active ignorance.
You know who Trump is, and you still voted for him.
Old white man I agree with you completely
100% Well put!
Exactly!
More black men will use common sense and vote against the feminist men-bashing democrat party that enslaved blacks and founded the KKK
Exactly!!💯
Short answer: No. you can’t be friends with them or have relations with them. Because it’s not just politics. It’s principles and morals.
Well said.. take care from Michael
As a Trump supporter, I agree with you.
I agree!
Patriotism as well!
Their vote is not only immoral,racist, misogynistic, homophonic, etc, we are now being even more attacked by these Maga's. We are now being openly attacked by Maga's
69 year old white male here. I prefer to keep my distance from anyone who voted for the Felon because I am angry about it.
Cry little baby
62, and same here sir been trying to avoid retired guy across the street bec of my anger
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Sir, the anger and rage is _at_ the fascists. Like you. GTFO.
Steve Hassan a cult expert wrote a book the cult of Trump which explains what happened. We are f*cked at levels that hasn’t even begun to sink in. When the hypnotic trance breaks, people will be heartbroken. THIS IS A CULT! Trump will do everything he says until the backlash is too great.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k seek help
Voting for Trump and MAGA Republicans is no longer just a political decision but has become a moral problem. 😔
Yup. Can’t be friends or family
I agree. If you dump your friends over politics then you are an idiot
@@stevemcqueen2663
Ah, too stupid to understand the morality argument proposed by the op, I see.
Typical maga.
Ignorant of most things and especially morality and what constitutes good vs bad morals.
Thus and therefore, maga idiots follow a criminal, a tax evader, a sex predator, a narcissistic a-hole that cares for no one but himself.
The morally indignant resorting to political pornography
It always was a moral problem
Here’s the thing - I’m not breaking up with THEM. They broke up with ME when they said me and my family are worthless. I’m simply honoring their wishes.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@SerendipityChild while that is true, puppets who are lobbing grenades are dangerous. They are absolutely my enemy if they are voting to hurt me.
Its like saying soldiers aren't the enemy when it's the government that's responsible. If they are allowing themselves to be used as weapons, they are the enemy, regardless of who is pulling the strings.
There is little I can do to protect myself from their masters. I can protect myself from individuals and their actions more effectively.
Can't have solidarity with people who refuse to engage. One sided solidarity attempts only lead to being harmed and taken advantage of.
@@SerendipityChildthere is no solidarity with magga look my father was a psychopath narcissist like trump u can’t trust them and they love seeing u suffer we see the tick ticks laughing at people’s pain that trump won they call us names put us down they really enjoy us hurting all rich look down on all people
Agreed and well put❤
@@SerendipityChild The puppets are absolutely the enemy when they gladly sign off on people dying.
"If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis." - An old German quote You are not losing your friends over Politics. You are losing them over Ethics and Integrity.
Amen to that
👏👏💯
Look Pelosi, Biden, and the elderly dem establishment throttled progressive activism and messages for far too long. They anointed Kamala instead of holding 4 regional town halls yielding at least the appearance of a primary season did incalculable damage. Ignoring crypto and young men were mistakes they lacked time to recover from
I say this regularly to people except I typically say it with sexism and racism, however NOW nazis are so normal again that the old phrase actually works. I hate it here.
Amen
My ex boyfriend was a secret trumper. When they say they "aren't that into politics", they mean they are a trumper in shame
Happy to see he is an ex. Good for you.
Nancyr i don’t think these people feel Any Shame for Anything, they will say whatever they have to to get what they want
Just like many supposed undecided voters weren't undecided, they just didn't want to admit they were voting for Trump.
@@triofan9fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost.
Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time.
@ Nancyr here’s some humor for you. someone said, have you ever seen a republican who wasn’t corrupt or sneaky? the next person said, yes i saw one standing by a unicorn but then i woke up, lol. Vancypants, someone on reddits asked, what is threads? the next person said, it’s what’s left of the couch when JD’s done with it, lol. MTG thinks that democrats can control the weather. if we could we’d have sent an F in tornado her way long ago. someone on X said, torrential rains over her house 24/7. hope this gave you a chuckle and have a great day today 👺👊👊👊🐁🐀🐷🐄🐓🐔🐮🐈🐈🐈⬛🐈⬛🐶🐶🐶🗳️💙🦋👋👍🏼😇
I ended an almost 40 year friendship with someone because they voted for Trump. I kept hearing people say "You ended a friendship because of politics?" I said "No I ended a friendship because I don't feel comfortable around them anymore." End of story.
Mental illness shows up in strange ways sometimes. Happy they don't have to deal with you anymore.
I agree with you for me. I can’t be friends with anybody who sold their soul to the devil that have no honor and no morals. They gave up their principles for that guy. I will not respect someone who did that.
Same I had a 16 years friendship with this this one guy who came from Poland back in 94 when I had met him no English no nothing I didn't really chill with him as much until freshman year long story short I started noticing his antics when he met his future wife on fb and she was also from his county but she was racist but he had his other friends chill with him who was polish except me so this kept going on and in from 08 all the way until 2020 I completely just told him I don't want to be friends with him anymore called him out for his BS cuz he kept talking about Hispanics and other people who he wasn't fond of I mean yes there stuff I disagree with but for the most part I just mind my buisness especially if they aren't huring me or nothing long story short I cussed him out and told him you wrre fake all along cuz u love trump so we can't be friends so him sling with everyone else I hung with in the group completely ignored me and don't talk to me anymore good riddance I'm 35 years old I know who my real friends are anyways
How pathetic. Typical fake lefie. You were never their friend. You only pretended.
@@BenFoster-cx4em you guys are the fake ones who gave up everything for that pathetic excuse for a human. I don’t know how you guys can. Look yourself in the mirror and respect yourselves. Disgusting disgusting disgusting!!!!
I'm a Cuban whose parents voted for Trump. They came here ILLEGALLY 36 years ago and were able to gain residency, citizenship, etc. The level of betrayal I feel is truly unparalleled. How could they do this to other immigrants? How do they not see they're going to be on the chopping block because they didn't come legally, regardless of their current status? How could they do so much to give me rights, opportunities, and a true chance at a good future and then just vote all of that away?? My brother is gay. I'm bisexual and they've been supportive of both until now. This is absurd on their part. No matter what their reasoning for voting for trump, they had to willingly overlook the fact that he's a rapist, a criminal, a scam artist, all of it. I'm absolutely heartbroken.
I am so sorry. That is heartbreaking.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I’m so sorry your parents didn’t support you. I truly hope it’s because they don’t understand what they’ve done
The Trump supporters I know do not believe he's a rapist, criminal, scam artist. That's the problem.
@terrystorey if they reject court findings as reliable sources of information, whay do they consider a suitable source?
Hell no. Just told my daughter that I no longer will be “ nice “ to her MAGA husband. I’m done.
I've made that same thing clear to my daughter in-law and her simp husband period
@@urhurd She needs a divorce and a safe place to be free. If she can't get her mindset there yet, educate her on the BITE Model of Authoritarian Control. If she can learn it and practice it, she will be the best person to set him free from the twisted mind control he has succumbed to.
I have a friend whose dad went complete maga. He was only able to cure him by getting into his phone and computer and blocking the propaganda that had taken over his algorithm. It only took a week to convert him back to his old self after that. Now he regrets ever supporting him.
It’s getting better every day. 😊. 🇺🇸🇻🇦🇿🇼
She really does need to divorce. He choses Trump over her life.
No no, don't be mean to him and make things difficult, just behave like he doesn't even exists. That bothers people more than anything and you won't be labeled a trouble maker. Be the peaceful but stern one in this situation. Good luck... ❤
At 75 years old I don’t have any extra time to waste on people who refuse to see what is right in front of them. I have loved this country my whole life, but now feel only ashamed. We once gave the world something to aspire to, we now show them something to avoid.
I agree. I really feel that way, too.
I second this. ❤😢
lefties are the racist enemies of America
I guess, as they say: if you can't be a good example, you can at least be a horrible warning for the rest of the Free world.
Don't feel ashamed please. You are a fine American.
65 yr-old white guy here, this was about morals, ethics, principles, and if a person voted for trump, well, I will be civil but don't EVER expect me to spend my "free" time around them. Especially if they are immediate family, which I have declined their invite to TG Dinner last week! No time left for those who choose to hide the hate in their hearts for too many years.
I finally had enough of my friends stupidity. At a friends gathering for a birthday party, I let the Trumptards there have it. I'm a quiet, introverted person and never say much. I had a so-called friend make a rude Trump comment to my wife. I called him out right in front of everyone. I showed him exactly what a real friend is. I went right down the line and showed how I voted for all our friends' best interest and how he voted against them. Then, I asked the room, "Who was the real friend here?" I pointed out how some of the women here have been assaulted. I pointed out how some here are on some type of assistance. I pointed out how some are having trouble having children. I pionted out the child tax credit. I pointed out how many got turned down for a home loan and that 50k would help. I asked him to name one thing he voted for that was going to help anyone in the room. Crickets!
Good for you for dressing down a misogynistic Trumper
Right on!
Good for you!!!!! I bet it felt cathartic to tell him off
Great job laying it out. We all gotta do this more!
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
I ditched all trump supporters after the election. I spent 9 years trying to understand and get through to these people. These people don't share my morals or values. I can agree to disagree with people about policy but not human rights.
I so agree 100% with you!
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Of course they didn't, it's all talk.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k A few minutes listening to that was my comic relief for the day, now I'll go back to normal people.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Oh no a vaccine during a pandemic. the horror!
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k You're so oppressed for having the option to take a vaccine.
No! Because at this point its about their character and integrity!
Yes, because they have neither.
And experience. Prosecutor vs Felon for example.
@@garymountcastle6657 Almost everyone on here has been treated badly by some MAGA supporter/sympathizer. It was never about policy.
@@Here4TheHeckOfIt Yeah I think I misinterpreted the original post. I strayed from the original content of how to deal with family, friends, and associates that supported Trump to Trump versus Harris as candidates. My bad but I’m just in that mindset. My feelings on the topic at hand is I would rather not know they are Trump supporters because if they indicate they are my opinion of them instantly plunges. I try to remain civil and steer clear of discussing politics.
Exactly!
“You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.”
― Jonathan Swift
I’m selling my condo and will now get myself a different real estate agent. The real estate agent I had for the last few years is a Trump supporter. I’m not giving her my money!
Dumbass
I went to look at a rental property a couple days ago and saw the landlord had a Trump bumper sticker on his truck. Noped out real quick.
Good!
I have been investigating every single place I spend my money right now.
I can't hate Kamala supporters because I don't feel hate for them, I only feel pity because that's the only feeling their meltdown inspires
European here. We were forced to follow the U.S. elections, like it or not. What a total circus it was. Yet, we held onto a sliver of hope that basic decency would prevail. Turns out, we put our faith in a society that seems morally fractured. We-and by "we," I mean not just Europeans, but also the Americans who voted against Trump-already know how this ends: broken promises, shattered lives, and the decline of America as a global leader.
Frankly, we wouldn’t care so much if your mistakes didn’t affect us, too. But they do. Not just economically or mentally, but physically. Many of our lives depend on the decisions made by that orange disaster you’ve elected. If russia attacks us, we'll call Article 5, if US comes - we live, if not - we die. And that makes us angry & hopeless.
There’s also this overwhelming sense of loss-a loss of trust in the nation we once looked to as the leader of the free world. The country wrapped in stars and stripes, with eagles soaring overhead, has just taken a turn so sharp, so unpredictable, that the consequences for all of us are unknowable.
And that’s what’s most disheartening: we haven’t just lost confidence in America, we’ve lost the America we believed in. I regret that I never had a chance to see it.
It's like watching someone you respected and admired slowly develop into a Meth head, but a whole country
I feel the same. I feel like I have disassociated from myself and am watching this perversion of our government. It’s horrifying and I cry for my young adult sons and the entire younger generation.
Well then maybe you should have been TAKING CARE OF YOURSELVES instead of gloating and scolding an american working class that *HAS NO ACCESS to healthcare, education, housing, free time, paid vacation or *ANY* of the things you take for granted living comfortable cushy lives in thriving social democracies while we are trapped in a Dickensian neo-liberal post-industrial dystopian hellscape*. The American people KNOW you don't really care about us-- and they've stopped caring about you too, in return. They are tired of subsidizing you so that YOU can have everything that we LACK.
And in their wrath because the Democratic party will NEVER heed the people or do what they want and need... they've decided to end it all. Because most of us (even many of us who would never vote for trump) think it has been nothing but a sham and a charade for our whole lives. My generation had the antidote to this poison-- we had a youth movement and a positive populism with Bernie... and the *DEMOCRATS* worked to *CRUSH*. THEY said "we'd rather have fascism than ever pay our taxes or take our boot off the necks of the working class" and they GOT IT. People are TIRED of being hostages if we're going to live short miserable lives anyway toiling endlessly for the debauch of our inhuman monstrous soulless elders who have devoured the planet and cannibalized our future while they laugh and mock us for it... then we find more dignity in letting the world end.
Speaking as an American and a veteran, I genuinely apologize. I can feel your sadness through your eloquently stated comment.
I believe we've greatly left the world (except for America's enemies) disheartened, disgusted, disappointed, and terrified. I have never been more ashamed of being an American. Never felt so betrayed by my own countrymen. I wholeheartedly believe this election result was a spit in the face to every single person, past and present, who sacrificed their lives for democracy and the freedoms these trump voters take for granted. They have no idea what they've done to our country and to our allies.
And THIS IS WHAT IS SO SAD! AMERICANS WHO CARE ABOUT EXACTLY THIS HAVE BEEN BETRAYED BY OUR OWN COUNTRY.
The problem with voting for Trump is that nobody can hide behind "I didn't know"/"I'm a low information voter" after a decade of this crap.
Ppl still have a human duty to forgive and set indifference aside. By continuing hate it won’t end. It will just continue and get worse. Ppl should understand that we all came from parents who taught what they knew. If they didn’t teach you right you should break the cycle and learn to do right. To respect one another to treat ppl anyone with dignity. How divided ppl are if only everyone knew it shouldn’t be like this.
@@jdos5643i understand, but at the same time. No
@@mitchellshuster8563 but that kind of reasoning is why things are expected to get worse unfortunately and the reason many more ppl will suffer. We are causing each other these pains. I will continue to have love for other ppl. And although I don’t talk much in person I will do the best to do what I can to help anyone however I can.
You wrong about that...youd be really surprised how politically illiterate people are
@@jdos5643i cannot be friends with someone who votes for people who literally wish to see me dead. Im sorry but fuck them. You dont get my respect or decency when you are trying to fuck with my right to exist.
I broke up with my bff because he thinks that women who can't get an abortion in their state should have to travel, and if they can't travel and they die, then its natural selection.
I literally walked out on the spot.
This was my best friend, we had debated over the years, but to hear this level of cruelty, I don't want that in my life.
Wow...that is raw...but you responded with integrity. Stay the course!
Why would you ever be friends with someone that terrible??? Jezus
I have to say as a 65 yr old white woman, I am ashamed of the women who voted for Trump. Black women understood the assignment, how you could fail all women so miserably and vote against your own best interests I can’t now or ever will understand and I just don’t want you in my life. I kept them before to try and change their minds but not anymore. It’s sickening
More black women than you know voted for him.
I you know that how?????@@ginabrandt6168
You can't fix stupid.
@@ginabrandt6168false so stop lying
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No
I've told Trump supporters that I hope, with all my heart, that they and their families are touched by each and every one of his campaign promises.
Nice one, with every one of his lies soon to be exposed. Your remark appears to be kind, but with a big bite in the A$$ for his constituents.
including child labour it's said he will bring that back .
Same!!! I so hope that all the undocumented relatives of Latinx people who voted for trump get deported first.
They will,all of us will.
We actually look forward to it! 💪💪💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸❤❤❤
I dropped my doctor, I am about to drop my cardiologist, I dropped my barber, we dropped some friends.
I will not patronize any trump people, I will have nothing to do with them, no decent person votes for trump a second time.
Period, full stop.
So NO!
So if your car broke down in a rural area with no cell service and a guy with a trump flag in a truck offered to help you would just tell him to fuck off?
@@Saturnfan94 Wouldn't trust a guy with a Trump flag in the first place, so yes, I would tell him to move along.
@@Saturnfan94 It could be an occasion to talk bold turkey about choices. I'd say that actions like what he has proposed add greatness to America, thank you very much, but Trump is every day more and more of a clown and a pretender and even his friends are telling him he's going too far. So what does he want to be loyal to? The real thing or the make believe?
It could result in him storming off, or it could make a light bulb illuminate in his head. If he storms off, nothing was lost compared to telling him to get lost right off the bat.
Or even play along and let him think you're submissive, but then give him the talk about choices afterwards. That way he can't undo the repair.
They do if they are brainwashed with right wing propaganda (that makes the believe lies are truth and truth are lies), Trump's antics, nonsense, lies, and hate sprinkled with ugly truths (that no one believes, because he lies so much), and MAGA communities to spread and reinforce lies and hate (of immigrants, liberals, transgender) while giving a sense of social bonding and positive reinforcement to solidify the beliefs.
@@Saturnfan94not interacting with trump supporters is most likely the safest thing to do. You’re willing to vote against your best interest and fellow Americans why would anyone assume you’d offer to help in good faith…?
The fact that we just had an election with a candidate who we knew would never ever concede tells you all you need to know: We are a stupid nation.
That insurrection is the biggest deal-breaker for me. It should be a non-starter for there even being a possibility of him being president.
Your profile picture looks like a villain in a SCHMUPS arcade game. Good on you.
Morally indignant committing political pornography,
Absolutely not. I just blocked my friend of 20+ years because she voted for trump. I cannot ignore a vote for racism, misogyny, anti vaxx etc. it's a question of morality.
Wow, that must’ve been hard nonetheless.
Takes a lot of strength and integrity to do that, respect! ✊🏻
1) You voted for a self avowed racist. Harris made a public statement (after "affirmative action" was struck down) and stated her support for racial discrimination against millions of Americans.
2) Before COVID reached the UK then we knew from other countries (E.g. Italy) exactly which groups were in any realistic danger (The extreme elderly / People with specific illnesses). If you're not in either of these groups then not taking the vaccine leaves you at MINIMAL risk while taking it leaves you at UNKNOWN risk. Anyone not in the vulnerable groups who chooses not to take the vaccine has logically made a sensible choice. Trying to smear them as "anti-vaxxers" is ignorant.
Also did same cried for two days..but what was I to her.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k We're cutting loose from people like you who mean us harm. We're trying to protect our lives.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Why are you on this channel? Thanks for continuing to comment and adding revenue for this channel.
Honestly, it doesn't matter to me what the appeal is. He's a fraud, and a rapist. He's a failure, a racist, a liar, a fool, and an egocentric brute. His every promise was monstrous, foolish, or both.
Every vote for him endorsed every part of him, no matter what else may have been appealing. This is the point where ignorance and malice have converged.
Not only have I started dismissing my MAGA friends, I've also fully and permanently disowned all of my MAGA family which includes both of my sisters and my father. I said to my father "you can have your hate and bigotry, or you can have a son. Make a choice." He did not choose me. The thing is, I'm a middle aged, hetero, white, former Republican male and even I knew how destructive the MAGA Trumpanzee cult mentality is for society.
Exactly! That’s what I told my sister. I used to give her money because she has always been a poor money manager. After she said that she couldn’t vote democrat because she is “Christian”, I said, she just voted me out of her life. My Christian compassion expired on November 6.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
Sounds like you threw a hissy fit to me but I'm just an adult male over here, what do I know
@@SerendipityChild Except that metaphor omits the presence of sentience and the ability to choose and think critically. The puppets in this case are the ones who chose the puppetmaster so the fault lies with them.
@@travisray2934 Lucky for the rest of us nobody asked what anything sounds like to you, so we're all safe from that I suppose. 🤣
No, you can’t be friends with a Trump supporter. I will not even interact with a Trump supporter if I can help it. I already know all I need to know about them.
My sister no longer speaks to me because I was blasphemous about her orange god king
Probably better for you to avoid her at this time. Like active junkies, MAGA freaks cannot be trusted.
You are better off without her...good luck
wow that's crazy!
@Morning404 But I did manage to reach another one of my three sisters to vote against trump...and she was a hard core Republican.
@deevnn I'll always be there for when and if she ever comes back to her senses... until then I'll be keeping my distance
It’s not about politics anymore. It’s about the R lack of humanity there hatred of anyone who isn’t a white bro. I’m sick of this.
Exactly. And as for people who are like: "well I voted for him, because of the cost of living" sorry... but "I voted for Hitler 2.0, because eggs are expensive" is not a good enough argument for me.
That's true of 40 or 50 million. But the rest? Do you know what searches are trending on google right now? "How do I change my vote?" and "Am I stupid?" if you aren't able to speak to those people and get them on-side as workers who have no free time and have had a very poor education (by design) then you'll never able to do what needs to be done practically or politically to save this country and species.
That literally is politics.
You're dishonest. You tried to elect a self avowed racist (Harris) who made a public statement (after "affirmative action" was struck down) calling for racial discrimination against millions of Americans. You don't like that decent Americans who oppose racism stopped you.
@@prismpyre7653 I struggle to have sympathy considering Google has been free and available this whole damn time. And literally in everyone's pocket.
Everyone saw the insurrection. What other information was more important than that.
not everyone. I think a large # of Re voters have no idea. none.
@@rhlang11 Exactly... Some of them never look at reputable news sources. It's all filtered thru pundits who couch it in "peaceful protest" or "Dems infiltrated the protest and started the violence"
Imagine if that was the Dems that did that. We allllllready know the bloodbath and what the reaction would have been. Their support for this man after that absolute shitshow tells us a whole lot.
I’ve talked to people who denied it. Says the news made it look worse than it was. I gave up on them.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
Don't need fake friends. Friends like that who needs enemies.
Gay women married to my wife with two young children here. Our entire family voted for Trump and fully intended to strip us of our rights. We are done. Looking into moving out of the country. This is so hard
All I’m thinking is … with ALL of his hateful rhetoric, how COULD they? I’m sorry your family is in the low information, high on the gullibility spectrum voters and they could not see past their own noses as to who’s in their own family. Good luck to you during these dark and scary times. 🧡💖✨
It was blind reactionary even if they disagree about the sex entailed. (I've long wondered why we can't have dual-head tax households that gain the legal benefits of marriage even if it's a brother and sister who know not to try to mate with one another -- or at least two brothers or two sisters with which that is inherently impossible.)
Do proper research on what country will suit you best. Canada as I understand are pretty ok cool laid back with lgbtq+. so is my country, most European countries are, do deep dive research because its not just a leave USA , its housing work taxes etc. Wish you and family good speed and I press fingers you find THE country for you.
I’m sorry they let you down 😔 I wish you and your family the best and please stay safe.
Yes it is terrible. Good luck. If I can talk my husband into it, I will try to move to Portugal 🇵🇹
I dumped most of my friends as well. I was horrified they voted for him. I can’t support a racist, rapi$t, bigot or anyone else who supports dismantling this country. I’ve always stood by my morals and I will continue to do so
I consider your friends fortunate for not being around a miserable intolerant loser like yourself
@@Minorbird1972 the only people dismantling the country are liberals.
I'm not part of the Tolerant Left. I'm part of the Zero Fucks Left.
I’m 57 years old. Close to being homeless. But still voted blue because I understood what the danger is on the red side.
Same❤ aending a bit of comfort to you
@@AgingStudent😢
I'm 70 years old and I'm right with you
I hope a Democrat helps you. Republicans won't do a thing for the homeless except vilify them.
We need to ban together and organize for social justice. We must be loud and not obey in advance. Think back to the second industrial age (MASSIVE governmental / corporate corruption) and the progressive period that came after.
We will prevail. Hand in there. Please reach out to any trusted individuals close to you to create community and then fight back.
I cut ties from everyone in my life who was in the cult years ago and I'm much happier for it. I highly recommend it!
Tolerance is a social contract. If someone breaks it, they are no longer covered by it. Period. Trying to convince good people to tolerate intolerant individuals is how we got here in the first place.
Sure, get through to the people who are get-able if you have the spoons, but don't expend energy you don't have in order to be "fair" or whatever to someone who doesn't value the social contract. They already opted out. That's on them.
I'll die on this hill. My right to exist and my daughter's right to exist shouldn't be fodder for national debate. And neither should yours. 💙
I've been around enough Maga men to know that cruelty is their objective. We are getting way ahead ourselves trying to forgive people who haven't even started their rampage of evil.
AMEN. I learned the hard way... Tolerating the intolerant. We never should have tried entertaining all this back in 2015/2016.
Very profound ❤ I will try to remember this and put it into action. Thank you.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets. They use your social contract agaisnt you
@@donnajensen5486 thanks! I can't take credit for the facts, but these are my words. This is an idea that came out of WWII. I have a cool infographic that says more but can't share that here, unfortunately.
As a white heterosexual, male, very little of Trump's actions are going to affect me as opposed to other demographics. However, I still have compassion for those who are not like me and by supporting trump, it indicates that we have opposing values. I demand higher standards for people I choose to be around.
I have deleted several former friends and family members from my life because of this. I assumed they were better people, and I was wrong.
Look at his cabinet picks. They are going to affect you more than you think.
@hannahm7373 Yeah, I get that. No one is going to be immune to this
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
Same but i want to hear the outrage regarding black voter turnout especially “men”. Wheres the outrage?! Im done now too. Fcem
What a bizarre take.
short answer: no. Long answer: "not only 'no', but HELL NO"
I got rid of my friends and family that are MAGA back in 2016…and I don’t miss them 🤷🏼♀️. What I didn’t realize is how Drama free my life would be and that I didn’t need anything from them but they lost out on my generosity. Everyone should do it because not having them in your life is so liberating!
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets.
I am Canadian and didn't experience as much of this directly, but his anti-vaccine/anti-mask ridiculousness bled over here. I ditched all of those people in my family and friend circle too. If you can't handle the inconvenience of a mask to try to help not make people sick, you're just not a good person. Such a simple and easy decision to make to make things better for other people. If they can't do that, of course they can't make decisions for others when those decisions are hard.
Thanks for this
@@SerendipityChild I can do without them too and still feel pretty damn good!
@@tarasignore3069 YVW 🤗
I've got a cousin who is a lesbian, a very nice person and an animal lover to the point where she has an animal refuge, and she loves the orange turd...she is everything he hates...I just don't get these people
That is mind boggling to me. What sort of magic does he have?
I wonder if she knows that the Trump boys kill animals for fun
@@felinefunk The same magic that convicted killers have that attract women even from jail...
Good lord! Talk about voting against her own interests!
@@felinefunk Whatever it is, I'm glad I'm immune to it.
There was a lot of journalistic malpractice. Treating him like a normal candidate is a bunch of 🐂💩
I heard one fleeting line, perhaps shared by Crooked or Meidas or Bulwark, about cable news networks getting a temporary reprieve due to some Trump action or policy.
So they know they've lost relevance but will only make short term moves in the wrong direction!
Yes, they had a real quandary about how to cover him, and they didn't rise to the moral challenge.
Billionaire media owners want their Trump tax cuts. Their journalists sanewashed Trump.
It galled me how so call legitimate organizations and media treated him like he was golden while slamming our heroine, Kamala. I cancelled my subscriptions to NY Times etc and will be streaming as long as that S’hol and his minions funk up the WH.
I'm Trans, anyone who voted for Trump is assumed to hate me family or otherwise. They can all rot, I will laugh as they lose their own benefits and support systems.
No. Life is too short to hang around with horrible people.
The fact your care this much shows that people probably don’t like you
@@Techlax43 What a bullshit read of that comment. lol
@Techlax43 millions of people care that family and friends are voting for their oppression, for the loss of their rights, etc. I genuinely can't imagine anyone that wouldn't care if it was happening to them.
😵💫@@Techlax43
@@Techlax43 lol ok
As a trans person, I can not be around any Trump supporters anymore to protect my space. I have tried for years to explain to my loved ones that the Republican Party's ultimate goal is to strip my rights and remove people like me from society and they will refuse to hear me. Even when presented with actual facts they dismiss them as "fake news"... I can still love them but it will now be from a distance. I also agree that bigotry has been normalized and it is up to all of us to call out and reject that behavior loudly and that can include cutting ties.
could you elaborate what policies they suggest that do so? I come from eastern europe and don't know much about american trans community struggles beyond puberty blockers issue
66 year old white woman here, I was so happy to vote for HER, I'm heart broken
Why? Tell me one policy she clearly stated that was any good? Just one!
@@EarlyRiser71 Name one tRUMP policy that is for the good of the country. Oh wait, he has "concepts" of plans.
@@EarlyRiser71No, you tell us what policy the orange turd has???
72 years old white man I agree completely . I voted against the mega fascist treasonous traitor's
@@EarlyRiser71 Gonna assume you’re not a fan, so in *my* opinion, she had a pretty solid tax plan that would’ve put more money back into the middle class. Taxes would’ve been lower for anyone making less than $400k (so, you know, most Americans) and higher for those who make more.
Also, she wanted to revive and make permanent the American Rescue Plan Act child tax credit and increase the CTC for newborns to $6,000 in the first year of life, making it a *little* easier to have kids.
And providing a $25k tax credit for first-time homebuyers over four years seemed pretty cool.
There you go, you get three policies that *I* think are good. You don’t have to agree with me.
as a 70 year old, i have learned much over the years. i have no interest in being around ignorant people. racist people. so for me, i avoid them as much as possible.
Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, over and over and over and over and over and over, welcome to MAGA!
👆 This...
Well said!
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
...Yes, Welcome Sir and Madam. Come to our MAGA safe-space, where all your happiest dreams will come true. Like you wouldn't believe! And can I interest you in a Holy Bible, carefully made in China? But not the China that gave us the "China" Virus.
No. I have integrity and morals. I will not tolerate ignorance and stupidity
Amen to that
100%
Only travel to Blue states for vacations. Boycott businesses that supported Trump whenever possible.
Yep NEVER setting foot in a red state! Vetting all businesses I shop at now.
Forbes has a list some include: Home Depot, Tesla, WhatsApp,Uline shipping,Marvel Ent, Ameritrade,Wynn Hotel,Johnson and Johnson,Gemini Crypto, world wrestling, Mellon Banking, Mountaire Farms Chicken, Lots of oil mags of course
New Mexico is a blue state, and it's very pretty here. Lots of camping, sightseeing, and culture. 💙
Go to blue city Memphis and you'll become a victim of crime. I enjoy red states and cities so much.
@@elizabethlibero1878I couldn’t find the list. Any other companies listed ? Thank you!!
Yes, unfriend all those Trump supporters. You can’t have a conversation when people refusing to acknowledge basic facts.
Young white woman here. I cannot be friends with people that voted for Trump, it comes down to human rights and decency. My mother voted for trump, she has 11 daughters… I will not be talking to her much anymore, and I’m skipping thanksgiving cause I’m not great at holding my tongue lol
I can relate.
I think it, it comes out of my mouth.
70 year old black man here and bless you for taking a stand.
I am a 70 year old woman, who always hosts the holidays. My husband's best friend of 40 years is not invited this year, I feel it is so sad, but he called my husband brain washed because we will not support trump. Enough, your hate is showing , or in his case maybe just ignorance.
The crazy thing, I know he came to this country illegally, but he had a green card for years and unfortunately last year became a citizen.
@clarielucy I think I just heard your entire family breathe a sigh of relief.
@@gerifridriksson9366 You claim this person is hateful, yet you're sorry he earned citizenship? Dearie, you are the hateful one, he's done well to be rid of you.
DUMP their ignorant arse . They craped on you and your family.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
How many damn times are you going to post the exact same thing about puppets?!?
@@eileene.5870it neede to be said, too many dumbass sheeple around, the sheeple are just as bad as the trumpers, nonresearch, no critical thinking. And hes rightz its what the gilovernment and rich want. Dumbasses who only know to work. Its basically slavery
It has gone past politics into our morals, integrity, character, and compassion. There is currently no intersection with Trump supporters. They voted for our ruination, stupidly.
I'm a far-left liberal, but I have some friends who voted Trump. They have integrity, morals, character and compassion. They felt they were voting for the "lesser of two evils" because of all the propaganda that has been thrown at them from social media algorithms. I don't like their choice, but I view their situation as similar to Russian citizens who consume Russian state-run propaganda. They have been lied to 24/7 for so long by incessant and obnoxious propaganda that it's hard for them to think outside of their box. I usually don't discuss politics with them - there are plenty of other things we bond over.
IMO, if we don't try to reach out to those 74 million Trump voters in one way or another, we're setting ourselves up for more MAGA moron presidents in the future.
@triofan9 fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost.
Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time
I'm sorry. But your political organization did not speak to the people's needs and concerns, so they're not stupid... you had a weak candidate. Was not strong. She did not relate or speak to people, she did not speak to those white men. She did not speak to the middle of the country. Not everyone lives on the blue wall not everyone are coastal Democrats..
The lead the country.. and all of the Dems that live on the coast of our country.. is it very small minority.. and if you don't speak to the rest of the country. People are not going to vote for you and want you to be there later.. so you can call them stupid all you want to... why, because of abortion.. that not the number one thing that's concerning to America's right now activate the number one thing is putting food on their tables and making sure that their family is okay. And represent something that they believe in..
I know a lady who is filled with fear, right wing media radicalized her into thinking immigrants are raping women and crime is up.
If the number one thing is putting food on the table and making sure their family is okay, how do you square that with the coming tariffs that will make inflation surge, the threat to our health care, the threat to clean and and water, the threat to free speech, the disintegration of our government. How is all that supportive of making your family ok? Maybe we will all be eating the cats, eating the dogs. SMH.
I just went through all of my friends lists on my social media apps and unfriended everyone who voted for Trump. I told my family I wouldn't be attending the annual family reunion at Christmas this year. I also sent my stepfather a text letting him know that I would no longer be visiting him, nor is he invited to my home. I told him that my family wasn't coming to Thanksgiving next week at his house. Sadly, they bought a huge turkey but will have to eat it all alone since we'll be celebrating with people who are ACTUALLY grateful for our freedoms and vote to protect our democracy. Too bad, so sad.
Me too! Even husband and male grandkids. I feel better now. I just wrote A message on Facebook saying" If you voted for Trump, please remove me. I am no friend of yours."
@doreenchambers9579 good for you!!! 🎉🎉 It's hard to split from close people, but it's much better to have less negative people in your life.
I am trans. This vote felt like and pretty much is a fight for my life. I have been speaking up about all of this since last year. I was super early in raising awareness of Project 2025. I cannot excuse any friends of mine who willfully votes for him with that knowledge. If they are MAGA, they are dead to me. I will offer leniency only to those who really were that out of the loop and that ignorant but they are on very thin ice, need to understand what they did and accept culpability for voting against me and people like me with that vote and that they are going to be kept to a certain distance while because my wellbeing and emotional state will not allow them to be closer while the real fight is about to start. Ignorance is not innocence and while they can mend fences, damage has been done
My heart goes out to you as of all the insane changes Trump is going to enforce the on that will be absolutely harmed the most are the PRIDE committee. Especially Trans people as these Christian( misnomer) Nationalists are out to destroy America Rights. We are under a Dictatorship Playbook of 2025 ...Please be strong....keep your head up and feel NO shame .. MAGA's are the shame. Destroying our country
I'm 46, Trans, my brother is a Trump supporter, makes me really sad. I still talk to him because I hope to one day change his mind by showing up consistently
54 cis white guy. 🏳️⚧️ love to you.
My kid is trans and autistic. I can't be friends with someone who doesn't want him to exist.
Erin’s comment at the beginning was perfect. “Fuck ‘em”
I have a feeling the world has the same feeling about America now.
@@francislacko Is there a step by step guide on how to be a refugee? It's my first time.
All that needs to be said.
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Trump followers have no business talking about cults.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them.
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I am a white 66 yo veteran and retired union construction worker.I am proud to say I have not voted for a republican ever! History will not be kind to MAGA.!!!
Solidarity FOREVER!!!
Thank you and thank you for your service. I’m a Navy vet and you cannot pay me to vote for the conservative agenda, none of them are good nor good for the public.
👍 I have never voted for a republican either!! And proud of it!!
Same here,!! I was a Union Worker for 30 years! I would never vote for a Courpt Republican!! NEVER!!
@@susanjraby3338 I think of how Reagan got his landslide victory. All those blue collar union guys who voted for him. Then Reagan green lighted the Corps to go for concessions, wages have never been the same. They regret that to this day.
The most you can ever be with a trump supporter is a cordial acquaintance, never a friend.
No. I gave them all up in 2016.
and it felt good!
Yay! Me too!
@triofan9 fewer people voted for Trump this time when he won, than last time when he lost.
Millions and millions of people who voted agaisnt him last time didn't bother to vote agaisnt him this time
Me too
Kamala Harris was our BEST HOPE for survival, as women!
yet apparently a lot of women voted for him.
I cannot understand why so many women want to be slaves to the state.
Women in Australia had equal rights to men for 65,000 years, it was white christians from Britain came to Australia in 1788 and found out women had equal rights and started slaughtering my ancestors because god can`t have women with equal rights.
After all it was men who created god to take the gift of life away from women.
And look where that got us.
And as a nation !!
She wasn't that good (which is why she had even less votes than Biden, who was also mediocre)...voters/workers want a candidate (like Bernie, but younger) they know stands for them, and isn't somewhat beholden to their wealthy corporate political donors. The Dems need to become grass roots, and trusted by the working class.
@@RP_Williams More than anything the Dems need a major overhaul because losing to Trump twice in a "Trifecta' type loss is catastrophic .Even Biden would not have lost so bad. Thats a sign of too many incompetent Dems in the party
I told 2 blokes I really liked I couldn't be friends with them anymore.
They thought telling me about him & winding me up was funny.
I know more about politics & have more experience in politics than them & anyone they know.
I have no regrets.
Hate & me are the opposite.
Blokes? You use the term blokes in the US? I thought that was just a UK thing
❤
If someone thinks pissing me off is fun, I then understand that they have no respect for me. And suddenly, I'm not around. And that's that.
@@TheMonkeydood& I live in a village, which many U K folks is not a U S civic term
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
I have some friends who supported Trump in 2016. None of them still did by the end of his first term. I'll forgive them for learning from being fooled once.
Kept my mouth shut for the past eight years not wanting to stir it up, but they felt free to rant to me. Done being nice and frankly just done with them. Nothing more foolish than arguing with a fool.
My sister a philosophy and multicultural studies major who is on disability, has 3 children, had her student loans forgiven and got some great government loans to purchase her house voted for this guy. In my heart she is dead to me. I had to give her money to purchase gifts for her children’s birthday this year and her husband works in manufacturing. I’ll never understand and question how I can ever forgive her for this.
Unfortunately for her her gravy train will end. That's sad. Will you enable her?
Forgive her to free yourself of the burden of harboring ill will. Accept your own feelings about what might be construed as a betrayal by your sister. If you are stepping back from the relationship let her know that you need some time. Avoid saying things like “I never want to see you or talk to you again”, because in the future you may want or need to see her and talk to her. Keep a light on. Those who are lost may need to find their way home.
If you could somehow be a good example for your sister’s kids….? But you need to do what you need to do for you.
That is not an endorsement for whatever university she's attending...
Forgiving doesn’t mean you have to re-engage in the same level of relationship you had. I’ve long forgiven my ex, and, prior to his death, we were on good terms when we spoke. It doesn’t mean that we were ever going to go back to being a couple. You can forgive, because that frees you. But, you can also maintain an entirely different type of relationship with the person, even if that means the relationship consists of much less contact.
MSM normalized Trump, and kept giving him free ad time on air everyday.
They worked for this outcome with every fiber of their "professional" effort!
The media prefaced their reporting with "this is unprecedented " when they should have stated (shouted from the rooftops) it was unacceptable.
Exactly Cheryl
The mainstream corporate media CEOs were all republican $$$ donors. They sanewash the madman and try to pretend they're left leaning. They can all fuck off.
As a 78 year old men I have no use for Trump and Trump supports. I changed my hair stylist who I’ve been going to many years after I found out she is a Trump support.
I’m a 40 year old white guy in rural PA who can’t fathom voting for that trash sack or any of his party. I’m basically a hermit in this sea of red hats now and I don’t regret not connecting with these people anymore.
That takes courage in that environment. Stay strong!
So brave
Being a Democrat in area where everyone drank the kool aid is difficult. My circle is very small. I am ok with that.
yeah, the left is a cult and that requires self isolation. you are not being a champion. you are being used.
I'm a 46 year old white guy in Texas. I've been outspoken against tangerine Mussolini since day one. The only family I still talk to are my two daughters. And the oldest is a teacher who left the state because she didn't want to teach here.
20:46 The mainstream media normalized Trump's insanity.
Not really. Better politicians come from better voters.
Totally agree with you. Corporate media sanewashed Trump.
The NYT has done 196 negative articles on Biden's mental decline vs 6-10 negative articles on Trump's mental decline during the same time period.
@@RadagastBrown420 Dotard was absolutely normalized. How do you not understand this???
The MSM has been normalizing the Lefts insanity for years, if not decades!
They never called out the lies!
Zero tolerance. FDJT and all his supporters.
Tell me: What made Biden better than Trump, and what made Kamala better than Trump?
They were not fascist, Racist, fake ass Christians, and love this country !! Trump is a fn Traitorhe tryed to overthrowourGovernment @@AlanAnon
@AlanAnon 😂😂 Tell me. What trump done for you or anything for this country??
MAGA are traitors
NO. I can never be friends with those people. They literally make me sick. A feeling of disgust at the very thought of them.
I've tolerated a lot from family over the last decade or so, and I'm done. They expect perfect tolerance and understanding, but never does it go the other way.
I get the sentiment, but not everyone cares about their siblings or parents. Just because you are genetically related and grew up with them, does not always mean you have a connection.
You dont choose your family, you choose your friends, so NO.
Thank God my family have a brain and no one voted for him. But there are a few who didn’t vote and I don’t think I’ll be speaking to them for a while
People only deserve the liberty they allow others to have. Why be friends with a hateful person who doesn't respect other people?
I am a white woman who also dismissed Trump supporters from my life in 2016.
Cheers to us people who hated Trump before it was cool~
Definitely no. I’ve been disassociating myself with any and all MAGA family and friends.
I did it last time we dealt with this mess! 🙏🏻🇺🇸💙⚖️🕊️🩺🗽
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k Trump supporters are in a cult.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
dude, your life must be boring considering you spend your time to keep on copy pasting the same comments, on and on
@THEMASKCULTISTHENEWMANSONF-m2k lol This is a fake account from a Trump Putin call centre....go cry to your Moonie cult friends troll ☢
I can't believe we have a presidential elect that makes us question whether our friends and family voted for him because they're racist, tolerant of racism, or willing to look the other way because they believe he can save the economy. The lines are so freaking blurred and it's mentally exhausting.
Kamala Harris is literally a self avowed racist. She went on TV and made a public statement after "affirmative action" was struck down and she expressed support for racial discrimination against millions of Americans.
That's what orange ass does he leaves dead bodies, broken families, and destroyed livelyhoods in his wake! Pays to be woke before u lose everything and everybody in your life! 🤬
The reality is that the economy is actually doing very well. We do have higher prices because of the inflation due to Covid and it has been hard paying that money. But imagine the higher prices along with a recession. In the long run, he is not going to be good for the economy. Not only the tariffs, but his relationships with other countries will harm it as well. They are all going to be looking to get away from the US in as many ways as possible now that they know how untrustworthy we are.
The rich and powerful always set us peasants agaisnt eachother.
They know if we have solidarity we are more powerful than them
The enemy is the puppet masters, not the puppets
@@rachelsawtelle4666 the aren't driven by economical views but hatred (see what a Texas woman, a secretary in local prison, told NYT)
NO from Germany
Hier in America sage ich auch, "Nein!".
Mir geht es genauso. Ich habe einen Freund, Afro-Amerikaner, der immer mehr in Verschwörungsmythen abdriftet und jeden Mist glaubt. Der kam auch an mit: Kamalas Lache ist furchtbar, plötzlich ist sie Schwarz geworden und sie hat sehr viele Schwarze ins Gefängnis gesteckt (Lüge aus dem Wahlkampf von 2020). Zum Glück hat er nicht gewählt. Ich tue mich eh schon schwer mit ihm, aber das wäre es dann gewesen.
Es geht nicht um Politik, sondern um Moral. Und jemandem, der so offensichtlich gegen mich als Frau und gegen meine Töchter wählt, dem kann ich nicht vertrauen.
Übrigens geht es mir mit den Blauzis um Faschist Höcke genauso.
@@TheNetOwlI cannot speak for EVERY german person and most germans I know don't care about american politics and consider ME bizarre bc I watch CNN every day since 2016.
Nobody I know gave a shite about Jan6 😢😢😢😢
I do 🙏😔😔
I watched it live and even IF 💩🍊 had lost, the damage is done.
Repeating lies, getting away with stuff that made me speechless like Bannon asking for Dr. Fauci's head on a stick in front of the White House and more..
I feel so sorry for all american women being deprived of their fundamental rights 😢😢😢
I wonder how long ppl voting for 💩🍊 will take to realize that EVERYTHING he said was a lie..
In 2016 I could still be friends with someone who voted for Trump, because he was new and they could've made a mistake. But this time around I am done with all these aholes. It's not only friends and family I am done with, but I unfollow any celebrity or channel that supports Trump.
And let me tell you, it makes life easier. I don't have to deal with so much stupidity anymore.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
- Issac Asimov
You are that cult
It’s tragic that individuals from both blue-collar and white-collar backgrounds, as well as those from the lower and middle classes, voted for billionaires who lack empathy and understanding of their struggles. These billionaires even hold them accountable for their inability to achieve success in their lives.
@@jonasbreen7236 you stupid idiot. Can’t even define a cult can you?
my son went against his daughters and his sister and voted trump. I will not talk to him. I will not go to thanksgiving at my daughters because he will be there.
He also voted against his own mother.
@@courtneybrubaker9738 it’s not her future she’s worried about…
I did all of my talking and informing over the last eight years. I tried to explain to people that I love that this is not going to be good for them. Now I'm done talking.
Stick to your word. Delete Farcebook so you don’t have to see people’s faces too. Remember life before Farcebook go there.
How is it not good for them?
This is beyond politics now. We've already fallen for the tolerance paradox, and the intolerant have taken power.
"The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance."
After you watched Jan 6th on tv, and still support him, there is no redeeming character. Bye.
You CAN NOT reason with someone who has already decided that traitor 45 is beyond reproach
No, I can't be friends with Trump supporters.
I consider those Trump supporters fortunate 👏
Get lost orange kkkult
Johnnydelco has it right, we wont miss you.
@@JohnnyDelco LOSER!!!!!
@@memyself3275 me myself!!!!! Your screen name explaine MAGA and KKKhristian ideology.
It’s sooo important that we pull back our resources and build new community with people we are more in alignment with. I’ve actually been doing that for over a decade and it’s been AMAZING. The community I have now have been so much more supportive than my blood relatives. We even barter. ❤
I am ashamed of my white sisters. WTF!! 🤬 I’ve had it with the BS of race and gender.
You mean white maga woman, white women Christian fundamentalists nationalist..not all white woman
It’s a very racially-charged podcast.
@@OilBaron100 Is it, though? I have a feeling you're trolling.
lol...go back to your spam call centre troll - your account is so fake.
They’ll be in meltdown when their maid, nanny and Gardner are gone.
My father is a Trump supporter, and we cannot have a constructive conversation regarding politics so it’s difficult. We will never have the kind of relationship I ultimately want, but he will always be my dad. I have, however, removed any friends that are Trump supporters from my life.
i removed a lifelong friend, a longtime friend and an actual biological cousin because they are bigoted trumpers, and we' not even americans, we're in canada
Daddy gotta go...
I removed my mega treasonous daughter in-law and her simp husband from my life.
@@deevnn The way you said this made me laugh 😆
Family doesn’t actively work against your humanity.
Nope.
And candidly, why would you want to?
Someone that ignorant and damaged is only going to end up hurting you.
All my republican family did this to me when I refused to vote for Trump.
If they only voted in 2016? Maybe/Yes.
If they just voted for him? No.
"As long as you're not making a huge effort to understand why I am feeling betrayed by your vote, we cannot be in contact. This is not about being for different teams, it's about so many people's humanity being questioned, their safety and human rights being on the chopping block. And I am one of those people. I should be more important to you than the price of effing eggs."
NO CONVERSATION WILL HELP!!!
With most of them, no, but there are few that conversations will help. Maybe you haven't met such a person yet, but they do exist. And, maybe, it's a good thing to stay a wee bit open for those people, if ever one of them crosses one's path.
They are a cult and you can't deprogram cult members with just conversation.
none they will lie to your face even family
No. Can’t do it anymore. Whether they voted as believers or ignorance, I don’t care. I’m done
A “Christian” friend of mine put a “pause” on our friendship a couple of months ago. She doesn’t believe reproductive rights are human rights.
No loss there; I'd celebrate! Peace and love.
Nancyr i doubt that she’s a christian then, bc true christians accept people for whatever beliefs they have. she might be a christian nationalist, the farthest thing from a christian as you can get
Make that pause permanent :)
Turn the table. You win. No need wasting your time, energy, and effort. Explain nothing because that takes effort.
I'm a member of a labor union. I actually sit on the board. We very strongly endorsed Harris because she is pro-labor union.
We have about 50% of the membership that worships Trump despite the fact that a Trump presidency could very well mean the dismantling of labor unions for the next generation. It's a big ass deal that he got elected and it's terrifying.
I have to work with these people every single day. I should also mention this is a construction labor union and women like me make up 3%. I can't not go to work and I'm certainly not going to step down from my leadership position because I'm surrounded by Trump idiots. I think the Local has taken a sit back, wait and see what he does approach.
I really wish that we could ask people's political leanings when we interview people. But I'm pretty sure that's against the law.
A union member who votes for Trump is a traitor and should not be in a labor union. They can go work non-union and make 50% of what we're making with no benefits for all I care. These same assholes think they know what's better for the union than the union itself, because Fox News tells them so. idiots.
Another union lady here definitely worried about our unions now. I live in a very red area and bet 98% of people I work with voted Trump.
Yes and Biden saved union pensions. Trump and musk laughed about firing people who unionized. It’s so pathetic voting against your own interests.
I am in IATSE and we are pretty evenly split, gender-wise, and in a very Blue state. We have maybe less than 5% of our members being Trump supporters, but about 60 % of non member workers 9:17 we represent on a gig to gig basis are Trumpistas. They think he’s “ Working class”, which says a lot about education and the study of basic Civics around here.
Let them know the next time you're coming from come up for renewal and they don't get what they want that it's their fault, if their asses got scorched they're the ones that put them in the frying pan 🍳. And that you did the best that they could that you could even though the individually might be undeserving. 🤡
They are brainwashed with right wing propaganda (that makes them believe lies are truth and truth are lies), Trump's antics, nonsense, lies, and hate sprinkled with ugly truths (that no one believes, because he lies so much), and MAGA communities to spread and reinforce lies and hate (of immigrants, liberals, transgender) while giving a sense of social bonding and positive reinforcement to solidify the beliefs. The Trump campaign didn't hack the voting machines. They hacked the voters. They are victims too.
Considering they're dishonest with themselves and/or other people, no, not really.
It’s not a difference in policy preferences, it’s down to morals. I don’t align myself with people who have bad morals. Simple as that.
Let them enjoy the time with their new friends