Five Nights at Freddy's - Why the Video Game Curse Ruins Movies | Anatomy of a Failure
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Five Nights at Freddy's is a film adaptation of the horror video game FNAF that was made popular by legends of that era like Pewdiepie and Markiplier and Game Theory. And it's very successful and liked by the fans. The only problem is that it's not a movie but rather a video game movie. In this video, let's see what that means. Why the FNAF movie fails to stand on its own as a film.
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Five Nights at Freddy's (2023)
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Hey Filmento, can you please make The Last Of Us 2 Failure, or Perfection, or OneVOne, or Alternate Cinema, or anything?
@@oksanapashenko last of us 2 was definitely a failure as a sequel.
in what sense is film held to a "higher writing standard" than literature?
Yup, exactly
Oh trust me it’s not just a victim of the video game movie curse. But a curse much worse and complex to put a stop too, The Horror Video Game Movie Curse.
I know that the movie did well, but it’s a shame, because fnaf movie had so much potential to become a proper horror movie
Didnt even have to be gory it just had to be scary but it utterly failed even at that
@@justyourordinarytom6528 exactly if they just made the movie horror survival that’s if it’s done right and you have a win we all have cupcakes
2nd highest horror opening ever. I think they got what they wanted.
I kinda agree with you, but FNAF also had the potential to be the equilibrium between a horror, and a thriller as well. Should’ve focused on BOTH the scares and the story at the same time, whilst keeping the story vague but interesting.
I thought it was a good movie, and I enjoyed it a lot, but it still needed some more work put into it, and it could’ve been better then ever before. It’s a shame it’s potential was wasted.
Problem with making a horror movie off of FNAF is that FNAF isn’t scary. The moment you get used to the gameplay and you know what to expect then you lose all scare factor.
I'm not sure why people were confused as to why this movie was hated by critics but loved by fans.
It's simple, the movie only really works if you are a fan and are hyped around the lore and characters. I can see why fans loved this film because it was clearly made for them. But it's clear that there wasn't as much thought put into general moviegoers. All the exposition dumps that feel like they were talking about the games, random name drops and events that don't really mean anything unless you know the games.
But hey, maybe they'll fix that for the sequels.
Edit: I'm seeing the argument that "the movie was made for fans and since it did appeal to fans with this in mind, it was a good movie" pop up more and more and I want to address it.
The thing is, that's not how movies should be. Movies should be enjoyable to ALL audiences. Not solely made with fans in mind and no one else. Frankly, it's a bit lazy.
A good example is Sonic 2. Sonic 2 was a movie that was made for Sonic fans, but it was also made in a way that general moviegoers could also enjoy it. That's what movies should be. Saying the movie was only made for fans is not a defense against the flaws of this movie. A good movie can stand on its own whether you are a fan or not.
It's simple, fans have horrible taste in movies.
Completely different but Better Call Saul was also made with fans of Breaking Bad in mind and yet it one of the best TV shows out there. There are some moments there that Breaking Bad fans will enjoy and especially in season 6, but the show was still smart enough to add depth to its references to the show and become part of the story. And be freaking good too.
I think it’s because as the makers say it was a movie made for fans and not general movie goers.
No the critics hated it because Scott Cawthon didnt apologize because he donated money and voted for Donald Trump. Thats why. Rotten Tomatoes has been caught as well as admiting they get paid off to write reviews one way or the other. The critic votes for Woman King were better than the Dark Knight and that movie was dogshit.
As a fnaf fan, I'm not a fan of the Movie. Felt like a weird fanfiction
19:48 this is exactly how Scott Cawthon wrote the story for the games and why the lore explanation is 9 hours long. It's all questions, a hint here and there and the audience is supposed to do all the heavy lifting trying to decipher how many kids actually died, how many murderers there were, how many bites there where, at which point in the timeline events happen, which animatronic is possessed by who, and why the whole plot happens in the first place. It's a tangled mess that requires an unreasonable amount of time and brainpower to make sense of.
More so the placement of stuff, the story beats tend to be very simple.
If you try to WinRAR it into a single movie, of course it will be a mess!
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@@TiredMoonRabbit something something bite of 87 something something crazy murderer shoves kids bodies into robots and robots get possessed something something springtrap something something
In the 1st game, most of the concepts the movie is trying to cram in the viewers head are basically not explored.
The surface level plot is really just that the animatronics think you're an endoskeleton and want to stuff you in a suit.
The rest of the lore of the first game is more of a twist. It's barely explained at all 'cause it's not part of the main story.
The movie could've done the same thing, make the viewer think the MC is getting attacked by rogue AIs and slowly reveal the sub plot over time.
Then they can elaborate on the concept of ghost kids and murders in the sequels if they want to, but the main pull of the original FNAF was that you play 90% of the game thinking one thing is happening, and then it slowly dawns onto you that something else is going on.
@@gamrknight8060 basically
I feel mostly disapointment that the movie never used the tension or unique style of horror the game had. 5/10 for me as a fan
had a fun time. (6.5/10)
@@mr.redbull6585 same but for me its a 7
But still think its more flawed than rise of the beasts basically enough for me to like it like a good puppet master movie (except littlest reich and tulon's revenge)
@@junniferluzeytonz I don't understand half of what you wrote but Imma act like i understood *thumbs up*
@@junniferluzeytonzI’ll disagree there cuz I thought Rise Of The Beasts was boring garbage. The Maximal models and Pete Davidson as Mirage were great but everything else was not.
I think this movie had a lot of potential but they went all in the kid friendly horror so it came out as a boring horror movie. 3.5/10
I am a hardcore FNAF, but I have no problem admitting to all the very obvious problems that this movie has. I was aware of them when watching the movie, and while I wish we could have gotten something better, we have to deal with what we did get. So yeah, I have no problem classifying this movie as a "failure" because there are enough reason to justify that label
No, you don't have to deal with this movie at all, don't defend it for being bad.
@@vicentegeonix A movie approved of by 87% of its viewers and making x11 it's budget in only 2 weeks is, by all metrics that matter, extremely successful. A small budget movie doesn't have to appeal to 330 million americans. This might be the way forward in media. Ten small budget films might be far more enjoyed that one big block buster that must appeal to everyone in order to not bomb.
You don't have to like it, but every movie in america wants to "fail" as hard as FNAF did. Deal with it.
@@whitemagus2000 yeah and those 87% are idiots without good taste in movies. Dumb kids that only went to see the movie because of nostalgia.
And doesn't matter what you say or how much money it does, the movie is trash and you cant deny it, people deserve better than the trash they got.
@@vicentegeonix just let people enjoy what they want
@@whitemagus2000 Yeah considering the budget and how much FNAF made, I think it is an odd candidate to declare a "failure"- at least in the finical sense, heck I wonder how many other studios would love for their move to fail in the same way that FNAF did. Now if we are talking story choices, plot beats, dialogue, overexpostion etc... then I could see where FNAF fell short and or failed but finically speaking FNAF definitely did not fail.
Yeah this movie wasn’t that great but the story in the games is almost completely different with it being about the son of the serial killer trying to bring these ghosts souls to rest but with them lashing out and believing him to be his father. I honestly think this would have been a very good non linear story that goes back to multiple elements throughout his life
They really shat on the lore with making Vanny William's child instead, yet not the protagonist, & having the kids be controlled through drawings, that we don't know who drew since they all look drawn by children. Knowing Scott himself was in charge of the script just makes it even more... shameful? Just hire an experienced screenwriter & director and be in charge of producing only!
I mean, what was he thinking...? *[Insert Mr. Krabs' "Money!!!" meme]*
This isn’t the movie I wanted, but for what we got I liked it.
If you truly wanna be scared by FNAF concepts, look up Battington’s FNAF analog horror videos, they are truly great works of horror.
Here we go again with the goddamn tapes
They can just play thr first game and get enough atmosphere
Stop with the fucking tapes
@@nezaniatoimyamany provide a experiences the games do not offer, tho
I completely forgot where there was horror in the movie i just called it a little meme movie
@@nezaniatoimya there is no need to be so hostile lol
I absolutely agree with every word of criticism in the video, and dispite that I liked this movie, I think it's fine to enjoy something while knowing it could've been better, because in the end it is what you have, Iknow the movie has flaws but I like it either wayand do want them to make better movie in the franchise later on, hopefully the criticism gets to them
It's strange, isn't it? On the one hand, I'm glad we got a movie that cares about what the fans think that _isn't_ full of political/agenda garbage. But on the other, it's not as nearly as good or great as it ought to be...
Perhaps it's the lesser of two evils? I.d.k., I just really hope that in whatever sequel it gets, it does things better...
This movie has taught me it's okay to enjoy bad movies not because they're bad because they're fun if that makes sense.
And that's exactly why producers are gonna keep making bad movies. Y'all need to have some self respect and stop compromising if you want better products
Man, I wish Twitter had your attitude, because FNAF fans treat the film like the second coming of Christ. They’re obsessed with that fort scene and get defensive on people who found it dumb.
@@reinhartnata47 I do want better films from them, trust me if I created content I'd be the first one to criticize the movie, but I did also enjoy it for what it was, I can't pretend to not like something I did like can I
I see this video as an explanation of why this movie isn't for everyone.
If you don't like it, these are probably the reasons why.
I liked it but can get why some people don't
Me and literally everyone I know loved it. The only reason I clicked on this video was accidentally
@@lilyofluck371 I'm subbed to Filmento and he does a lot of great commentary. I just feel this video is for people who didn't like the movie
I liked it, just not the dam cupcake. It doesn’t make sense, why is the cupcake like a separate enterte to Cheka? Is it? Or is it like a detachable limb? Just tell me about the cupcake please.
@@lilyofluck371even my mom liked it, she said that it wasn’t scary but it was one of the most fun movies she’s seen in a while. The best way that she explained it was saying that it was dumb fun.
I agree on most of film mentos videos, but this one was just not it for me. It was a fun little movie that I really loved
What I love about Filmento is that when he tells you why a movie failed, he gives ideas about how it could have succeeded.
True! He never trash talk down the movies! He just explain why it was a failure and make it better.
The movie made 10 times it's producing budget.
(25 million cost, recoup 250 millions) By lying about a failure label, he is actually preventing you to learn what made that movie a success, and has a detrimental impact on future movies.
@@FlitalidapouetBox Office and Movie Quality are completely separate. McDonald’s is one of if not the biggest restaurant chains in the world, but that doesn’t automatically mean the food is good for you or 5 star quality.
This movie made money and was a success solely on the fact that it was FNAF and it’s getting future movies based on that reason as well. That doesn’t make it invulnerable to criticism.
@@Butwhythough881 Can't qualify McDonals as a failure, thousands of books and documentaries and movies have been make about it's success. It's a success, no matter how you gaslight yourself.
This movies is a HUGE success too. 10X it's cost. Try that with The Marvels.
@@Flitalidapouet In the financial/business market, McDonald’s is successful. It’s successful and makes money because it’s fast food. But in terms of overall food QUALITY, it’s awful. Product quality is different from financial success, no matter how much you plug your ears and sing “La La La La La La.”
Another aspect of the games, at least from what I understand, is that the story is never directly told to you. You know something awful happened in this pizzeria in the past, but you only get vague hints and clues, that you have to pull yourself together to make sense of. Basically, it's a mistery with an answer that's left only half explained, and should have the audience arguing amongst themselves about what it meant after the movie ended. Because that mistery it's a big part of the appeal.
Instead, what we get is a character explaining the whole background to us.
people criticise scott for this style of indirect storytelling.
@@hgmd3284the same goes for alot of story tellers.
Basically show don't tell, and I agree i like mysteries like that where people arguing with each other trying to fit pieces together as the movie goes on. I didn't see it but did they do that or not?
Scott gets criticized for keeping the lore very mysterious in the games, but then when he isn’t as mysterious in a movie, he still gets criticized.
There’s also still a lot of mystery in the movie?
The biggest issue was, they had the task of being a "horror" film while also being a movie aimed at kids, so it needed to be not too scary or gory. It's a tough tightrope to walk for any filmmaker for sure, but despite its flaws, I enjoyed it. I liked it far better than M3GAN.
I agree with that, it also tried too hard to be for new comers when the movie clearly wasn't, it was also best when it tried to be a horror movie which isn't much, one other complaint i have is that it isn't really trying to be fnaf if you catch my drift the main focus is barely on the animatronics/pizzeria with how it was advertised i expected more of that stuff
I kinda want it to be gory but I understand why Scott chose this script. In the very beginning, Scott has no intentions on wanting to make the games gory which is why we could only see less bloods and dark story in the games.
The script in the other hand captured the styles as Scott's from the source materials and thus resulting for this movie to be made. The intro sequence and "Building the fort" scene proved it.
If you wished to be much more gorier than the final product, maybe because you watched too many analog horrors that didn't captured the styles of Scott's.
P.S If you're gonna hate me for explaining why the film didn't have enough gores in it, don't blame me.
Plus, what I haven’t heard mentioned is that since Jim Henson’s company also worked on the film, it was highly unlikely that it was going to be a gore fest
Watch Willy's Wonderland instead!
@@Early2000sCringe I did. It was awful.
Ain't no way Filmento just referenced the Arkham asylum subreddit. We actually live in the best timeline.
I watched this with my brother, who is a FNAF fan, and I enjoyed it. But I admit that there are many flaws in the movie that could have been avoided.
I hope they listen to the criticism and improve on the sequence.
Me & my 10yo brother were laughing and calling out errors throughout the runtime. Guess that made it more of an enjoyment.
...Ok, I think I'm hating on it too much.
Y'know, the game already kind of does give you all the little pieces you need for a solid movie. You just make the main character the gamer himself. That is to say, when I sit down and play Five Nights at Freddies, information and atmosphere are slowly delivered to me. I'm constantly thinking, "What? Why would that happen? You can't be doing this to me." And, "Oh, gosh, I'm glad that's over," and then, "Here we go again, but wait, now there are even MORE dangers?!?! You mean by button doesn't work now?"
So take the main guy, have him think he's doing a normal job, but then he gets the phone call from "phone guy" and learns a bunch of eerie stuff that the phone guy is trying to down-play, but it's obviously sketchy. Some creepy stuff happens, but nothing too crazy, so he comes back the next night, and things ramp up.
Then, when he knows he shouldn't go back, he does anyway because he's mysteriously being paid TONS of money for it.
Then, when he finally decides he WON'T go back, that's when he gets trapped in there for the finale.
I feel like a simple short film of this, made by some RUclipsr, could be _phenomenal,_ yet a multi-million dollar company couldn't make it work?
Did the director need to watch Filmento or Moviewise? was he incompetent? Or was his hand stifled by the producers or whoever screws these things up?
This is precisely what I wonder about many of the films produced by big studios now (since most of them are not original screenplays). Is so hard to do good movies that stand on their own, but that respect what they are based on? They don´t even need all the money they are spending on them.
They apparently couldn't get any actual script for the movie that they felt good about filming until a bit ago, so there's probably something there that mucked things up.
Who knows what that even means for the stuff they were receiving, but they certainly didn't get anyone actually invested, or probably even interested, in the games beyond having to check them for the movie script.
It was written by the original creator of the games. And if you read any of the books then why this story was so convoluted makes sense. It's not the director at the end of the day, it's the writer. And this writer has interesting ideas, but relies on youtubers to tell the story for him and makes everything so convoluted and messy to hide the generally weak story. If they had cut it down to basics of "guy is a night guard trying to survive while figuring out what happened" it would have been a lot better. (In my opinion of course because I know I'm going to get attacked by the community)
@@ethanh.7365 Several great movies have a basic premise like the one you mentioned (and like the ones Filmento mentioned in the video), right now it´s more like a disease in the film industry, trying to build something out of different incompatible pieces, supposedly, to "please a hypothetical audience".
@@luisrods fair enough, all I'm saying is that the writer makes or breaks the movie.
You brought a good point about the survivor aspect of the film. Personally, I think this movie should’ve done what Night at the Museum did. The character there has to survive the nights from all the possessed exhibitions, but he does so by learning their weaknesses, their history and how they think to outsmart them and keep the place in order. All the while, he’s forced to come back to this dangerous job to keep custody of his kid. It could’ve been similar to FNAF, how the player learns the animatronics’ mechanics through the nights to survive. And it’s a movie too, so they could’ve written new rules and stipulations to follow to keep the tension high.
Phone guy would’ve been a good way to clue in Mike how to survive. Like how to conserve power, camera blind spots, wear a mask, etc. you could’ve even thrown in some of the human kids as apparitions that mess with Mike through the night. All the while, Mike slowly deciphers the backstory of what happened on his own by doing research or exploring the pizzeria.
The potential is there if they focused on one aspect. But, the movie we got tries to do soo many other horror tropes that it becomes unfocused. The creator Scott Cawthon confirmed that he’s listening to criticism though, so here’s hoping this will be addressed in the sequels.
Why the hell did they remove Phone Guy in the first place? That's like the Mulan reboot deleting Sheng. Part of horror is the loneliness aspect, which no other humanoid than a voice on the phone accomplished in the game, but the constant presence of Vanessa & the sister failed to do in the film. Gosh, it's like Scott forgot his stuff.
I always felt like the strength of FNAF was its uncanny nature.
The main plot is generic enough that, unless you wanted to somehow cram all the lore into it, you could practically do anything with the story.
It only needed to use the uncanny to scare, but it feels like they didn't even try.
As big of a FNAF fan I am, I still agree with all the criticisms you made here. You know, there’s actually a FNAF fan-film that came out here on RUclips while the official FNAF movie was still in production heII. It’s called “NIGHT FIVE” and it actually delivers on that survival movie aspect that you talked about here. Now it’s not perfect (it literally opens up with a 5 minute long exposition dump that recaps the FNAF lore) but it does try to keep the core aspect of a nightguard trying to survive against deadly animatronics, while building upon the mystery of why said animatronics are acting the way they are, and exploring the past of the restaurant chain they inhabit in a way that feels properly connected to the main story of the film without losing its identity. Again NIGHT FIVE is not perfect, but I do think that it does a better enough job at being a stand-alone movie than the official film.
One thing that stood out to me was the unnecessary coincidence that our protagonist happened to be in the same town as the man who had kidnapped his brother decades ago.
The protagonist lived somewhere, went on holiday to Nebraska as a kid, and the killer kidnapped his brother from Nebraska and then went back to the town that has Freddy's in it, and then many years later, the protagonist just happens to move away from his home and to the town that has Freddy's in it, ending up in the same town as his brother's killer, and it was not planned or orchestrated by either the character or the killer. Or, since it isn't clear, the protagonist is already from the town that has Freddy's in it (which is unlikely since he seems to have no knowledge of Freddy's) and went on holiday to Nebraska at the same time the killer also went there, two people from the same town going on holiday to the same place. Either way, it's a wild coincidence, and entirely unnecessary.
Just have the protagonist be from somewhere else (so he knows nothing of Freddy's), then one day his family goes on holiday to the same town that Freddy's is in, and that's when the local child killer kidnaps him, and then years later our protagonist moves to that the town Freddy's is in with the intent of trying to unlock his memories in his dreams, since the environment and locations and atmosphere may help him remember. Now it's not at all a coincidence that the protagonist ended up in the same town at the killer. Changing it from three locations (his home town, Nebraska, and Freddy's town) into just two (Freddy's town and his home town).
Nothing else in the story even needs to change except a few lines and set designs, and you don't even need to go to any other state to film the Nebraska dream scenes, you can just film it in the same location as the rest of the film. It's such an easy little fix for a glaring plot contrivance that should have been picked up on when writing the second draft.
Do you know anything about the lore??
really good analysis. I was really hoping for more scares from the animatronics instead of a fort building montage
YES that exactly
@@th5154I mean the fort scene is supposed to show how they're just kids but they still should've made it clearer.
@@shadtowa8986i think the problem is the huge tone shift, i think that should've been shown earlier then have them get enraged after the break in.
@@shadtowa8986 "it's to show that they're kids" my god every time i see this excuse the more brain cells i lose.
we *get* what the point of that scene is. but there are better ways the movie could have gotten that point across without sacrificing the fear factor of the movie. it would have been *so easy* to have scenes where mike hears freddy giggling like a little kid or hear bonnie and chica groaning in pain like a kid. those things literally *happen in the game* and they would have implied that the animatronics are possessed by kids while still being creepy.
i don't know why scott chose the fort building scene over literally *any* other way to show that they're possessed. my god that scene was bad.
@@ediblepencil494 I agree for the most part
everytime when i see the "this was made for fans" argument with this film, i just think how sad it is that they've lowered the bar so low for this, but if we ever get a great fnaf movie what would be the general perception. i thought fans wanted a scary horror movie, not a boring, exposition-riddled blumhouse movie
I don't really get that defense either. Wouldn't necessarily call myself a fan, but I'm still pretty familiar with the series. I feel like it was a 3/10 at most. I genuinely think I would have enjoyed it more if I went in totally blind to every other piece of FNaF media and just saw it as another dumb horror flick.
@@frootloop2220It’s not even a defense, it’s an excuse
Comic book movies have this challenge too, to balance story for both fans and newcomers yet nobody says “it was for the fans” because it isn’t how it works
If a screenwriter can’t balance both, than that person failed
@@capitatecab6049Thank you.
@@frootloop2220 same as for me, a hard core fnaf fan i would give the movie a 4/10 or at most a 5/10. just wasn't good and not scary as well as a boring and predictable story
This movie unironically should have been more like Willy's Wonderland. I think it could have benefited from a stripped down plot. There's a Danish movie called 'The Guilty' that is pretty much a guy sitting in one spot taking calls at a emergency dispatch center, but it is still very exciting. I think a similar concept of a guard primarily staying in one place monitoring cameras could work.
Dude FNAF’s plot is a massive part of it. You can’t really do a FNAF movie without having very large focus on the story. If it was like Willy’s Wonderland where guy gets job and then it’s just a bunch of gore and death it wouldn’t have worked for a fnaf movie.
@@grantslater861 okay, but the story in fnaf is still very simple. Compared to any other video game, MGS, Halo, Gears of War, RDR, Fallout: New Vegas, Witcher 3, CP2077, or TLOU especially. It's not "complex" in the sense that it's a really deep story, it's "complex" in the sense that it's so absurdly convoluted that you NEED a 9-hour lore analysis to get a base understanding of what it is. It's simply just NOT the kind of game that would translate well to a two-hour movie or hell even a trilogy. It wouldn't work as a slow-burn horror movie, it wouldn't work as a slasher movie, it wouldn't work as some kind of psychological horror, it MIGHT work as a paranormal/supernatural movie, as the gameplay doesn't lend itself to any traditional film horror genres, as a point-and-click horror game that was always focused more on gameplay over a story.
It's the same reason why a DOOM or Half-Life or Bioshock (as explained in the video) movie wouldn't work, as these games are all very focused on gameplay over story, and unless you want a movie that's just a guy going around shooting things then you're not gonna get a very great story or movie out of it.
TLDR; the pitfall of the FNAF movie is instead of leaning into the campy, absurd nature of the story and structuring a fun movie around it (like Willy's Wonderland), they tried to shove an absolutely convoluted lore dump and references into the animatronic of a "movie".
@@grantslater861 Most of the story in the movie isn't even in the games. Also, how much of the plot is in the games? You sit in a chair and look at cameras.
YES, bro, chamber pieces/movies!! If FNaF was a well-written chamber film, it would've been amazing. Especially since films like Room, Oxygen, Buried, etc are ripe with psychological horror, & FNaF's a chamber series already! The story, script, and genre were all layed out in the games, but the writers just had to mess it up.
I feel irrational being upset since everyone is so content about it, but rethinking it as someone who loves writing just makes me mad every time. Seriously, watch all the films I mentioned, they're way better.
Oh, and I've never seen the original Danish version, but Jake Gyllenhaal starred in the Netflix remake, that I think is also *stellar* as a chamber film.
I love that Sony is your symbol for the Videogame Movie Curse, even though literally every studio until a couple years ago had about the same track record.
he's a PlayStation fan
We already had this movie, it was called Willy's Wonderland and it had Nic Cage being a robot destroying force of nature. Also, the reason the FNaF lore is so fuckin weird is because Scott was literally making it up as he went along, so much so that when MatPat starting making videos about it, he openly changed the lore because Matty was getting too close to being right.
Your attempt at finding out what kind of movie this is is accurate to how the series' story and lore has gone
The game itself is relying on the tension and fear, you know that they are coming for you and you can't do much to stop them, you have to act quick or you are dead. This is what the movie is lacking, the tension.
Blumhouse is growing into the MCU of Horror movies, indie game should have been given to indie movie producers
I think one major issue this movie had was they spent so much time establishing the "Why does he keep coming back to this place", that they forget to even establish why that was a question in the first place.
If they didn't establish why he kept coming back, the criticism would be why he kept coming back. When the original game released that was a big question, so you can't blame them for explaining that.
@@fnaffoxy1987just say he needs money. It’s not that crazy to assume people do risky stuff for money. Just show him losing his previous job in a bad way and then done
@@user-x7dc2pq7n At a point dangerous work turns from A "Job" to a "liability" The pay gotta match the danger brother.
Video game movies will always be a gamble, even if some of them have decent stories.
It's a balance of sticking to the game while still making a movie that does it's own thing. You don't want whatever the FUCK the Halo show was, but you don't want to hyper-focus on making something that's so true to the source formula that it falls flat on it's face (although it worked with Mario, that was a different scenario entirely)
It seriously baffles me that a game known for jumpscares had a movie that was almost devoid of all jumpscares. Three of which came from a literal toy. As a fan I liked the movie but I do hope they will improve the horror aspect when they eventually make a 2nd installment.
Yeah there should've been more jumpscares, but not too much since a lot of modern movies milk them
That “Hello I’m Rian Johnson” bit killed me 😂 I had literally been checking IMDB to see if that was him after you first showed him
I think it was to be expected. The writers knew a movie like this would be hard to nail so they had the choice of either gambling with today's volatile movie market, or go for the less riskier option of atleast impressing the fans, which in my opinion, they did perfectly. Hopefully the sequel will be even better as Scott is the type to convert criticism in miracles.
Hard to nail how? In what way is it hard to nail that isn't incompetence? I mean we know it's not an original concept, so you don't have to gamble with "Will it find an audience..?". The character dynamics, genre, story, everything was layed out well in the games; all they had to do was put it in the story without fumbling it up. And they fumbled it up. Your standards would have to be low for you to be not just entertained for an hour, but *impressed* by the story, moreso if you're a fan. 'Cause it's already worse than the canon. This is an effect of people turning their brains off.
If the main protagonist, had been a brother connected to one of those children who disappeared to the Bite of 87' and he had failed to save him/her. And the protag has anxiety and ptsd (keep it from the movie). He tried to cope it as a security guard, make him successful, make it so that he's a freelancer security guard or something, someone who works for a agency. Then he gets a job from his old hometown where the Fazbear Pizzeria is, and that the money intended to be rewarded is good (keep the younger sister dilemma as well but she shares the same trauma as he does for their little brother).
On day one, there should be mystery and thrilling experience of scariness (no jumpscares) just pure creepiness in atmosphere (have one of the animatronics move, look at the camera or w/e). Then on day two or three, things escalates, the mechanics of the second game and the third game should have been implemented, exhausts ventilated, vent gates closed, door closed. Have the person who hired the main protagonists to secure the place, without destroying anything or be fired (addition of consequence). These three first days should establish connection of the Bite of 87' and his youngest brother.
Then have fourth day have a dilemma of the loiters and vandalizers attempting to disrupt the fourth night shift of the main protag, make things horrifying, and have the main protag help them escape to the main control room, so its a chase survival horror sequence (have it so they all end up dying).
Then on the fifth day, the sister sneaks in the Pizzeria, and the main protag has to protect her (now invade and remove the illusion of safety of the main control room), and the sister gets some sort of mcguffin that helps her steer the main protag to the killer of the children of Bite 87' and by extention; the younger brother (could be freddy or could be bonnie - play around subtle personality similarities throughout the film).
Then voila, the annoyingly stupid tie-in, is the damn dreams, and the sister having to deus ex draw. (the antagonist was never subtly hinted at either..) would be removed since they're unnecessary.
The drawing plot twist is from the books. I'm a fan of FNAF, but the lore is incredibly convoluted and the books are... varied in quality.
I think having the Filmento logo in the upper corner with the Game Theory logo around it is perfect lmao
There may be other movie analysis channels ("that's just a theory") but Filmento is the undisputed KING of integrating a sponsorship into the narrative of his videos!!
The first game was legit pretty creepy. There is some uncanny valley potential to something supposedly friendly and comforting trying to... do what exactly? That's one of the points, you don't really know what's gonna happen for the first couple of levels. You see them slowly moving towards you, and your imagination draws stuff that is way scarier than a Toreador bear gif. Then the difficulty scaling and the story totally ruined the mood for me. Irritation and fear aren't really compatible. You get irritated with stuff you know, and you know the stuff you're irritated with, you know what I'm saying? The plot of like a dozen games is also pretty stupid, especially when it starts getting so convoluted that the red string guy from "It's Always Sunny" has nothing on FNaF theorists. The first one was actually quite cool with the presumed symbolic reference to that one pizzeria shooting and the "guard" being actually stuck in his guilt purgatory or whatever. That twist was not as overdone a decade ago as it is currently. If the movie doubled down on all those elements and became an actual horror movie, not B-horror movie, about something eerily friendly trying to do something unknown to the characters, and had a twist of that variety, that could be a "1408" kind of movie, and I liked that one. Honestly, I would watch the crap out of a FNaF psychological horror.
That was the smoothest ad deal integration I've ever seen
I think a good setup with scenes would be the Mike doing his sleeping routines during the day and security in the night. The ghost kids, particularly the fredbear kid, can follow him outside the pizzaria to give him info about what he's faced with in said dreams.
I have to say, this movie provided me with a great bonding experience with my family. My mom, my sister, and I all went to see this in theaters. We all hated it
HAH! this was a good joke, you got me lmao
I watched with my friends. And we never talked about this movie again
Fnaf 1 was the scariest game in the series atleast in terms of atmosphere sucks scott treating it like security breach still
Alright let me answer some of these questions. I know it doesn't make the movie better, but at least it will make it make more sense to you.
What about the saw trap thing? Honestly I have no idea. I assume this exists to extract as much agony as possible? From the victim? But again this is never explained in the movie so maybe it's just there cause it's spooky or something. This particular machine is not from any of the games. In the first game they stuff you into a Freddy Fazbear suit when you die which is similar to a degree (and something like it happens in the movie) but not the same.
Things in dreams having an effect on reality? Not in the games. Maybe it's in some of the book stories but I don't remember.
The balloon boy jumpscares are just a joke from the filmmakers in my opinion. Yeah it doesn't make any sense and it's complete bullshit but that's what makes it funny to me. I guess you can say it also references 1) the balloon boy toy from one of the book stories 2) the animatronic from the second game 3) him being the most annoying character in the series
The Vanessa character is really strange in this movie. They're kind of trying to smash 2 different game characters together one of which has no development and the other having died and possessed another animatronic as a child and being William's daughter. I honestly appreciate they tried doing at least something with her cause in the game she's even worse.
Sure the electricity is "suddenly" their weakness but why is that so hard to grasp? It's exposited in the scene, it's not a random plot twist. But anyways this is a reference to the games obviously, mainly to the controlled shocks in Sister Location and FFPS.
Yeah I agree that Golden Freddy is not explained at all and very confusing. In the games there are 5 kids who died and possessed the animatronics in the missing children's incident shown in the beginning 8-bit cutscene. Why does the fifth child become a ghost (Golden Freddy)? We don't know, we just accept that that's what happens.
The drawings are explained in the movie itself and are not a concept from any of the games. As the therapist said images have power for children. One thing they explain (but not well enough) in the movie is that the children don't remember how they died and who killed them. Why? We don't know.
The reason why he hires the night guards and keeps the restaurant is because he's a serial killer. This allows him to kill more people.
The reason the animatronics are hostile to adults is because they are confused. Remember they got killed years and years ago. In the games it's always clear that they don't ever act aggressively towards children.
When it comes to the cupcake I genuinely have no idea how it works. The whole cupcake thing was an invention for the movie. The cupcake never did anything in the original games. There was a jumpscare for it in FNaF 4, but the animatronics attacking you in that game was an illusion anyway so it doesn't really matter. My best guess is that it's just an extension of Chica's spirit's consciousness.
That's about it. I know some of these answers aren't really answers, but it does clarify that there are plenty of things in the movie that don't have some crazy explanation from the game universe. So if you were wondering if there's an explanation for the cupcake for example I'm just telling you there isn't one.
The cupcake might be the Chica Girl's dog, since we know from fnaf 6 Afton used it to attract her.
@@anotherchaos I guess that's possible, but that's a really deep lore cut. Also if the animatronics became possessed by the kids' bodies being stuffed inside of them how did the dog possess the cupcake of all things?
@@Korra228 it might just be inside Chica with the girl, one possessed Chica and the other the cupcake, I don't think it's too farfetched.
@@anotherchaos why would William stuff the dog inside Chica too? It's just a dog. He probably put it in a shallow grave somewhere, if he was even doing anything with it. He just lied to Susie about the dog, didn't he?
The only idea I have for why the kids don't remember who killed them was because William turned off the lights or somehow made it so that their lives would end in a flash or something without them knowing who would kill them, and thus they trust in the last person they saw before they died, I don't know, that's the best I can come up with for now.
Personally, I’d say it would’ve worked way better as a thriller tv show instead of a movie.
Much more time for building intrigue, uncovering lore, better buildup for the springtrap reveal, etc.
Nice to see Mathew Lilard still getting work
Lowkey, that edit of Mike struggling in the torture chair with the saw music was fire
*LOVE* your videos!! I'm trying to learn how to write stories and I feel like I learn so much from your breakdowns!!!
This movie made me fall asleep twice.
that was the real dream theory lmao.
Can you do a Film Perfection in the horror genre? After watching the Nun 2 video I think there's a common challenge that it's hard to make a horror movie where the audience is invested in the main character and simultaneously doesn't feel like there's plot armor for that character.
The Oilers reference hits home hard...
I loved the part of the movie where freddy fazbbear said
"Ok fazgang its time to spring this trap"
I felt chills
Couldn't agree more, the horror of FNAF 1 was never going to adapt well to the big screen without making huge compromises, so I'm glad they went with the more modern FNAF approach of Scott just having fun with it and by consequence making stuff *his fans* enjoy, it's not a good film, but it's a fantastic love letter from an indie developer to the fans that brought him out of his darkest hour, and I wouldn't have it ANY other way!
As a fan of FNaF, but also a fan of Filmento, I’ve got to say… I really did enjoy the Fnaf movie (I’m pretty easily entertained) but I would definitely agree that it’s a “failure.” I hope Scott somehow sees this video and can learn from it to make better movies in the future
The thing is, its no a faliure, it made 10x times the budget
@@HunterCat1 just because a movie succeeds at the box office doesn't mean it's succeeded at being a great film. That's what this entire video is about... it's actually what this whole channel is about...
@@HunterCat1 it would have made back its budget no matter what. Its FNAF bro
@@puyopuyogooey7214 I, personaly, dont think making a great film was the goal with this one. And judging by the reviews of fans, it is. I mean I know Filmento pointed out a lot of weak points but these didnt ruin movie for target audience.
So how you can call something a failure that got box office and fans approval at the same time? It isnt great for non fnaf fans, but not a failure either if even you enjoyed watching it.
If you wanna see real VGM curse at its finest and a complete fail then look no futher than Assasin's creed movie. But you pobbaly already know cuz Filmento has a vid on it.
Filmento’s definition of a failure has nothing to do with a movie’s success. It has to do with whether or not it adhears to the principles of screen writing.
And also, just because a movie wasn’t made to be a great film doesn’t mean there isn’t something you can learn from its failures.
The movie wasn’t a box office failure, that’s not what Filmento is saying. The movie wasn’t a miss with the fans that’s not what Filmento is saying. The movie failed to adhere to the principles of screenwriting. It wasn’t as good as it could’ve been or engaging as it should’ve been. Filmento is trying to give advice to us the audience so that we can think critically about the movies we watch. He’s also trying to give advice to everyone involved with the film so that the next one they make can be better.
When better call saul video? I know its not a film but its the best.
Hey Filmento have you watched the Silent Hill (2006) movie? It was considered the best VGM some years ago. Could be a great video
Absolutely not
@@etam8099 "not" what? The channel has so many videos about VGM, why not about Silent Hill? There is so much to critique and to praise. Why would anyone complain about another Filmento content?
@@ramonzeiro Best VGM absolutely not i mean
Honestly was the movie trying to be a comedic horror? I was slightly confused but the movie had spirit
I remember my group so excited before entering.. then after went out i said "the movie is sh*t" laughed when my friends all agreed on that. 💀
The second I knew that'd the movie would be PG-13, I knew it would suffer. This likely made it so that they focused signifigately less on anything horror causing all the conflicting plot points. To be fair, making it PG-13 is the smart move from a profit prespective, but making it R would have allowed for a better movie.
FNAF is more focused for kids so makes sense to not be R lol , also not really if you think adding blood guts and people saying fuck would make the movie better it wouldn't....
@@egbert5871the games story is not for kids the gameplay is though but the story
Child slaughter arson mfos getting brutally ripped to pieces in costumes not so much for kids
If u look at the science of each death it gets very fucked up and brutal specific how what chica went through before she was brutally killed
@@trolgeeeeee the science of each death lmao. Still made more for a Younger target audients. nothing wrong with liking games like that though never said there was. Also my point still stands making it bloody and gory and saying FUCK FUCK FUCK will NOT make it better
@@egbert5871 adding gore of mfos saying fuck on a daily basis just gets corny at some point but yeah I do see where you're coming from
@@trolgeeeeee Story would have been the same , just won't have the kills off screan
"You're held to a stricter writing standard than any other medium."
Surely you're not held to a stricter writing standard than in. . . _writing._
That segue was so clean that I had no choice but to watch the entire ad
This movie could have been a Powerpoint of all the charaters and names and FNAF Megafans would still be clapping calling it the "best VGM ever"
The fact that they play the most generic music for every second of the film, it removes the tension from what could have been a scary movie. In the first game, the sounds that you hear are the voice recordings, the sfx of the environment, the celebration sound after a night, and the jumpscare sfx. It is a very effective way of creating tension from basically nothing.
Yeah, I noticed Bloomhouse keeps overusing Brer McCreary as a composer.
Best part is: the Freddy Kruger dream stuff and Saw elements are not present in the games basically at all and are an invention for the movie, so is the controlling the animatronics at all and especially the via drawings thing, and so is the brother plotpoint. And the cupcake being possessed, and a bunch of other stuff. It isn't as much a video game curse thing as it is trying to inovate way too much on the videogame, ironically enough
FNAF movie should have the plot of Dont breathe
A entered but trapped person or people has to block the doors, watch the CCTV, repair the electronic devices like the cameras, switch the batteries from another room, and the characters should stay until 6 o'clock, and in the process, some human characters should be splattered.
These are only in one day.
I personally think the movie should have followed William Afton...It should have explored why he kills, how he became a killer. Which later builds tension for Mike (we could also explore why he is going to the pizzeria (not just because he needs a job lol). Since we know Williams ability to kill we are always afraid. If Mike was William's son and is trying to set things right (like in the games) it would have been very compelling...
I work at Regal Cinemas and an old guy walked out of FNAF. I asked him how his movie was, and he leaned against the wall and said to me “I loved it”.
Haha, that's nice! I would've wondered what he thought too
Most likely a pedo. That was the audience.
That was such a good ad transition.
Never knew we would get a Filmento: Edmonton Oilers Fan Arc.
It was more of a drama than a horror movie. Wished it was an actual horror movie.
I think what they were trying to do was to make a movie, remixing old horror movie concepts, to try hard to make it as not-boring as possible.
Once they get the go-ahead from the budget givers, they can deep dive into the franchise more in the sequel
Also, I knew that Bespoke Post ad was coming once you mentioned the survival gear lol
That was the best Integrated sponsor ad I've seen in a video. At first I thought it was actually a good idea in respect to the movie, and then it took me till the end to realize it was a commercial for your sponsor.
Your criticism is on point. I was kinda sad, that the movie didn't focus on surviving inside the pizzeria.
I still enjoyed watching the Movie, but I don't think it will be remembered as a great movie. It looked great, they nailed down the look of the location and animatronics.
Also its good that a less expensive movie made much money.
Thank you so much for this Anatomy of a Failure. I kept hearing how good this film was and I started watching it the other night. I quit when the cop showed up. Your video is great and so much more entertaining than the 30 minutes I wasted on this film. Perhaps I agree with you because I never played the game and it doesn't have that piece of my kid heart. That being said, "This is all pretty f-ing dumb." Thank you for your channel.
Plus Vanessa being there and being a cop made absolutely no sense.
It was bad. I hope you got your money back
Yea if you've never played the games than a lot of stuff will be lost on you.
@@SireneKalypsoHow does Vanessa being a police officer not make sense this isn't the same continuity as the games.
@franks2796 Vanessa is a security guard almost a decade or two later in Security Breach.
She'd have NEVER met Michael.
@@SireneKalypso this is a different continuity from the games.
Thank you Filmento, thank you
Loved the video!
It should be clear and have a refined storyline from a filmmaker's perspective. Familiarity with the franchise is crucial for connection, but a drawback is predictability. It could be improved by introducing creative and ambiguous scenes, adding intrigue without making the film confusing.
Bro fnaf lore has always been confusing and is supposed to be confusing. That’s part of the big mystery of the lore.
@@grantslater861yes but that doesn't mean it has to be adopted to the movie because if in the game which started as a 1 man project(correct me if I'm wrong) we don't have a concrete story line it's alright because it's a game but we are talking about a movie that's the difference. I understand that it is a cool concept on not knowing on how things work in the fnaf world but you have the creator or people that can make it make sense is better.
Scott somehow managed to be a mediocre videogame writer, mediocre book writer and mediocre movie writer. All he has to do now is write a play and then he'll truly become a Jack of all trades and master of none
Do you know the fnaf lore? Because i do and i can tell you its easily better than the movie. I haven't read any of the books though because I've only heard bad things about them
@@grump1537 I love the SE trilogy and the Fazbear Frights stories (most of them). And I like the story of the true FNAF games (1-UCN).
As a fan who really enjoyed the movie, I appreciate this video! I was aware that I was probably biased in my view of it, but most of my family and friends who aren't fans still thought it was fine. I'm grateful to hear a more critical perspective, even if it makes the rabid fan in me make angry Tasmanian devil noises. I think your points are well founded, and it makes me curious about what a FNAF movie that sticks to its core would look like.
As far as lore goes, I'm afraid the writing problems you pointed out in the video are present in the games as well. Most of the games do not have a narrative structure. They instead sprinkle clues throughout about things that didn't happen in the game you're playing, and it often leaves more questions than answers. I haven't watched that 8 hour video, but I'm willing to bet that most of its run time is dedicated to untangling convolution, not summarizing story. Maybe I'll finally cave and watch it after this.
Not sure what else to say! Very good video, I enjoyed myself and I feel like I learned a bit about film making, so thank you! Have a good one :D
Me when filmento was annoncing his death : oh no, he's going to switch voices again !!!
I think people forget it’s a T for Teen franchise. Like it’s supposed to be for a younger audience. As someone not overly familiar with the lore, I thought it was fine as a feature length Goosebumps episode kinda vibe. It’s supposed to be an introduction to horror. I mean, if Mike Flanagan is praising your movie since his son who is a fan loved it, you’re doing something right imo.
Not everybody's offspring is a FNAF fan.
The movie doesn't make sense aside from fan service.
You can say it's a great fan service AND say it's a very bad written story at the same time.
@@CordeliaWagner I mean fair, I just think a lot of people forget that it’s for kids.
@@JpBoudreaux Wait, now that I think about it, a FNAF movie directed by Mike Flanagan would absolutely kick ass. Dude knows how to do horror
@@CordeliaWagner As a longtime fan, the fan service was just icing on the cake, not the cake itself. I recognize it has its flaws, but everything in the movie is explained enough for the plot to make sense. The drawings? Explained. Springlocks? Explained. The animatronics/ghosts? Explained. I don't get what's hard to understand when it's so simple and linear.
The opinion of one dude means nothing. After The Flash where tons of filmmakers were saying it’s the best movie of the year, their opinion is as shitty as everyone else
If you go into this movie expecting a horror experience you'll be super dissapointed.
But if you go into it as a comedic experience it's the funniest shit ever
People were expecting a VHS Fnaf tapes type of horror, and a lot of that blame is due to how people hyped up the movie before any trailers that it'd be Rated R, absolutely traumitizing kids who go see it, when that was never what it was going to be.
I thought it was "okay." I didn't really dislike it or regret watching it, nor did I "love" it.
Apologies for being terrible at writing opinion comments, but I feel like I should bring up counter arguments because there is a lot I really disagree with. Sorry if I come off as rude as well, not my intention. And yeah I'm sorry for the absolutely GIGANTIC comment, I just have a lot to say, almost just as much as the video.
When it comes to the "Movie identity" problem, I just don't get your point. How come movies such as knives out can change the entire structure of the story twice, but there's no problem, while it is a problem with the fnaf movie? The movie simply has many parts and elements mixed together, there's nothing new about this. And as for the other movie comparisons, while I can confirm the saw trap is very out of place in the movie, saying the movie is trying to be a nightmare on elm street because it had a scene of ghosts... Acting like ghosts is kind of a stretch. No, it does not make it the movie's core, it's just a scene of a haunting. And I don't get what's weird with having multiple elements mixed together. A serial killer, ghost story, and mystery story with a heartfelt subplot in the middle is nothing confusing or bizarre. The elements can coexist and blend in together, like they do here. This whole "shifting focus" thing doesn't make much sense, because it feels more like a problem with how the viewer watches the movie, trying to connect each aspect of the movie to a different plot and trying to predict where it's going instead of going with the flow and seeing this is a mix of a bunch of concepts, not just one.
As for adapting the game, your point is that it doesn't portray the games accurately therefore it has to make things up, and it misses the point of the game. I think you should have done more research when it comes to this, because this isn't as much adapting a single game, it's adapting the universe. It's a very largely character driven plot, based on many games and novels who of course aren't always about sitting around and watching cameras. There are characters, stories, a whole world. And you don't need to be a fan in order to appreciate that. If you aren't a fan of the games, then it's best to not criticise the movie for how it handles adapting the games, because that's not something entirely in your area of knowledge
As for references, There's a lot to talk about here but I'll keep it short. The lore in this movie is nowhere near as convoluted as in the games, it's simplified and adapted to fit the movie better. It only stated what the movie needs to be stated. As for the references... What is the problem? Why does every little reference need to be justified by some story element? The balloon boy doll shows up for a cheap joke jumpscare and that's it. There isn't much behind it, it's just BB being annoying as usual which fans will get and laugh, and so will the general audience who just either got caught or not by a cheap jumpscare of an ugly doll that even the protagonist dislikes. There's no secret, just a gag. There isn't a need for every reference to have a reason because a lot of times if that thing exists in the movie, it's because it exists in the games, and has just as much reason to exist in the games as in the movie. There doesn't need to be an explanation, it just simply exists. It's the movie adapting the source material and that's it. Why would anyone ask for a lore reason why in the Mario movie, Mario is italian, or why the mushroom kingdom is magical? There doesn't need to be one, it simply just is as it is. And yes, the animatronics don't have much distinct personality, but that's not needed. All we have is Foxy runs fast, Mr. Cupcake is a wild dog while Chica is just kinda cruel, Freddy is the leader and Bonnie is supposibly the "most aggressive one". There's not much to them, but why does it matter? Literally the only ones who would care are the fans. They're just there to do their thing and kill. Doesn't matter who. As for abby seeing the kids... There's no secret. She doesn't have superpowers, the kids just show themselves to her, just like they show themselves to whoever else they want. It's not dropped, it's just kinda clear after a certain point.
As for the characters, why do we NEED to know who characters are extensively before we see them die? It's not uncommon for characters to be there just to get cool kills in a horror movie. And it especially confuses me that you claim we need to see mike and his little brother's relationship in order to care aboutt he fact mike lost his child brother and is now filled with guilt, which is then carried over to the subplot of mike taking care of abby. When it comes to the characters, I won't say much so I'll keep it short. I don't see how Mike is that empty. He's simple, but he has a bit of charm. And before someone shows up saying "you're saying that because of the games", no. Mike is barely even a character in the games and his personality is still mostly different, so I'm not hiding behind bias. You question why vanessa just shows up and sticks around... When it is actively stated why. She's there to help mike to some degree, but her real job is to get him killed. That's why she sticks around, blunded by the fact she can't help but stick around and play with the animatronics alongside abby. As for the ghosts... They're ghosts. In this plot, there's no reason to explore them as individuals. They're children and also vengeful spirits, and they act like it. If the movie spent time showing how each kid's life were, then we would have big issues with the length. This is something only the books explore due to it actually being fitting there. As for abby... I'll be honest, this feels like just lacking patience with children, because she's nowhere near annoying or "stupid" like people tend to call her. She's just a regular child doing her thing. I don't know why people usually expect a child to be super smart, mature and complex in every horror movie. As for william afton, I understand. To an outside audience, there is 0 explanation on what his plan is. Fnaf fans can assume what he wants, but the general audience is just confused on who this guy is and what he wants and why he wants it in such a specific way. He just wants to kill security guards to probably harness souls but apparently the audience doesn't need to know that.
As for your quick questions: Why are the animatronics' weakness electricity? Because they're machines. It overcharges them. Why not call for help? Good question. And ofc the good old "not freddy" question. I really don't get what's hard to understand here. We saw a backstage with older animatronic models, a 5th child, and a slightly different broken freddy suit with a child who claims it's not actually freddy. We have just about as much information as the players who first played fnaf in 2014 when they saw golden freddy, and noone had any doubt that yes, it is a different character and it is a more powerful haunting. How did he turn them into living machines? ...Did you miss the entire part of the movie that talked about ghosts? How does he control through drawings, why the guards, why the pizza place? Good question. What's their motivational drive? The same one as any vengeful spirit in any ghost horror movie. Why didn't mike's brother become an animatronic? Everything implies that he did, but is being saved for the sequel when we see the puppet. Why does mike get away free from beating someone up, and why does he realise there are ghost kids in his dream? Because the movie doesn't want to waste time with that and I'm glad. How do the ghost kids enter his dreams? They're ghosts. It's ghost logic. Nothing new for hauntings to also haunt dreams. Why the jigsaw machines sometimes, and others not? It's safe to assume the machine is for security guards who are meant to be at freddy's, while the intruders are just prey for the children. How did a body fit in side a cupcake? ...Idk, either there's a single hand in it, or it just shares the soul of susie (the spirit) or it's susie's dead dog bones in there, but this is a rather nitpicky question for a movie that's not afraid of being just a little bit weird sometimes.
I watched this movie with my mom who didn't know jack about fnaf lore, and she still got it, and that was what made me realise that the movie does work on it's own and she didn't nitpick for most of the time. There are indeed flaws such as the movie's ending wrapping up too soon and there being a lot of flaws with the logic, but you didn't point a lot them out. You just complain when the videogame movie has elements from the videogame and also finds it a problem that it isn't even closer to the source material.
Once again, I'm sorry if I came off as rude, I didn't mean it. I'm just not the best at expressing myself sometimes and I hope I didn't waste anybody's time. I just had to say what I thought and overall the video was still pretty good, I don't mean to attack Filmento or anything.
Thank you for listening, have a good time
The worst thing to have happened to fnaf is to have gone past its 3rd game
It was honestly perfectly tied up, the main plot points are there and there was a resolution
That would have left alot of lingering questions though, plus we would have never got Henry's speech.
I kinda forgot THAT!
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@@TiredMoonRabbitfor A SEQUEL!
Yeah, it honestly should have ended in FNAF 3 or FNAF 4.
@@CaptainBones222 People weren't happy that Springtrap's jumpscare in FNAF 3 was lame, so Scott made FNAF 4 which definitely fixed that, but then the lore of 4 was too vague for interpretation so he had to keep going to clarify and it just kept growing. Had the lore to 4 not been so vague, it's possible it would've stopped there.
I always enjoy your ads, one of the few channels that presents me things and make me really consider them. Quick effective, and your sponsors are actually really cool, about the movie, i am sad about this plot, the ad was even relieving
Vanessa at one point says something about all those kids disappearing was all over the news but Mike doesn't know anything about it even though his little brother disappeared around the same time is crazy to me
As both a FNAF fan and film studies student, I totally get both sides, while leading more towards the fan side.
HOWEVER, there is hope, since the film makers said they would revise the script for the sequel and take all the criticism into consideration.
I have a feeling 'more of a hope' that the other movies will make the first one make more sense, kinda like how the games retroactively make the first one have a story it originally didn't have.
@@TiredMoonRabbit That's my feeling too. FNAF has always added things later to make previous things come into play retroactively. William saying his catchphrase might be ham-fisted now, but when they show that he keeps coming back to several Freddy's locations to keep killing kids in a prequel, that's when his line will make sense, the general audience just doesn't know that about FNAF.
I'm hoping on an alternate cut of the movie. We already know from test screenings that a lot of scenes played out differently in the first and second acts, for all we know there could be a significant amount of cut content for the third act that would've helped to make it more of a horror @@TiredMoonRabbit
@@JimBobJoeB0b I'm pretty sure the kid who played Garrett said on insta that he filmed in the pizzaria, so either they are saving that for the next movie or they just cut it.
Yeah a couple days before release, Jason Blum (CEO of Blumhouse) and Emma Tammi (Director) said that after working on dozens of scripts, Scott Cawthon wanted to take a risk and make the movie for fans only. That they weren't all that interested in expanding the audience, just rewarding the existing one.
I actually think it's really cool that you were able to pick apart exactly how this movie was made without hearing about any of that.
But in the end, sounds like the movie did exactly what it was trying to do, and is a success in my book. 🤷♂
This is why I prefer Filmento versus someone like Mauler who I do follow. Filmento goes deeper than surface level analysis of film critique, rather than the usual ranting and picking up the obvious failings of the story or the characters and he also offers suggestions for improvement. I am a writer, writing my own superhero novel series and videos like this help me be better and avoid the obvious pitfalls. I learn so much from these videos. Thanks Filmento.
I love how the ad reads fit right in 😂
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This is like the big budget version of all those movies the nostalgia critic made back in 2010, it even has a random cameo (matPat) who is only there to be a wink at the audience.
It’s honestly cool to see a basically RUclips big budget movie.
The biggest problem is that the games lore is so confusing and takes place over so many years. If anything the movie should have been based off the novels because that's what would have worked better as a movie. I'm a fan and I can recognise that as a film fnaf doesn't work like this. This will become a trilogy which I love and I'm very excited as a fan but these movies won't stand on its own two feet. Thankfully fnaf has millions of children as fans so these movies will always be succesful.
The movie IS based on the books, though.
the "is he stupid?" reference is greatly appreciated
definetely the best sponsorship presentation ever. WD!
I watched that 8 hour video. The story is really just okay and not at all worth telling in the insanely complicated way it is told through all the games. Not at all interesting enough
Even if Filmento is murdered for this, he always comes back.
I was looking at this movie like I was a kid who was a fan of the game. There were really slow parts and I thought kids would dip out from it. Like custody hearings, job searches, and all of that stuff
Damn, that ad transition was smooth as butter.
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