"working itself out in love" is not the quote, what father mike is referencing is two passages in scripture "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith" (Eph 2:8) and "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love." (Gal 5:6) Faith working through love not working itself out in love. It may see like nit picking but it is an important distinction.
And Fr Mike was quoting Scripture, of course! We are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8) working in love (Galatians 5:6, 1 Corinthians 13) and in obedience to God (John 3:36)
@Gina Man OP is correct it’s all over the NT. If you are a believer of God you would know the law is to love and all that you do is to love as Christ did … love and mercy it’s the LAW Matthew 22:37-40 (RSVCE): And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 16:24 (RSVCE): 24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 3 John 11 (RSVCE): 11 Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. He who does good is of God; he who does evil has not seen God. John 12:26 (RSVCE): If any one serves me, he must follow me; and where I am, there shall my servant be also; if any one serves me, the Father will honor him. Philippians 3:17 (RSVCE): 17 Brethren, join in imitating me, and mark those who so live as you have an example in us. 1 Corinthians 11:1 (RSVCE): 1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Hebrews 13:7 (RSVCE): 7 Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.
@@Davidjune1970 without faith you cant please Father, nor can you keep His comandments... isaiah 41: 13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.
@Gina Man nobody here said without faith. You need to check your comprehension skills. What we postulate as the apostles and most importantly Christ said is that if you have faith and are a true believer that you will act with love, grace and generosity in your life especially to those most in need. Whether that’s by helping them or by prayers or other means you have that lends aid. As for Jesus, Catholic Mass is entirely centered around Christ and liturgy. Not a sermon that a pastor gives in a protestant church. Truly if you are not willing to follow in the steps of Christ, we ask do you really even have faith if you cannot serve another person to make their life less dark.
@@Davidjune1970 i used to be catholic. Yall have no faith! Im so happy Father answered my prayers and told me to read the bible! Catholics are fulfilling the galatians 1:8 prophecy
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 7:21
(John 6:40)" And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
@@kuma7949 not contradicting, in your verse it says that Jesus just WANTS everyone who believes in him to do his will. In my verse he says that everyone who does not do God's will despite saying that they believe in him will not come to heaven.
@@LookinUp_ no. First it says, that you can't believe in God and still not be faithful. That is believing in Jesus but still not having the Holy Spirit within them, then God never knew you. This is something we both agree on. After it says "only those who does the will of God" The word "does" refers to making actions and actively, while you're in grace show it practically. What protestants mean by "not by works" is that God won't look at your entire life and see if you've done good the majority of it or not. He will just see in the end if you've been in a state of grace and if you've turned away from all satanic and revealed yourself as God's child. However, what I am saying is that you can lose your grace. If you're first baptized and confirmed and participate in mass every Sunday, strong believer. Then turn away from God and become a complete atheist for the rest of your life then you are deep down not God's child when you face him during the judgement.
Yes. The problem is that the papists position forces us into a mode of extremes. before we preach "works of gratitude in christ" we now have to contest for "faith alone" first.
Very well explained anchored on the Holy Bible and Catholic sources. Very often these Catholic doctrines are misrepresented by people and preachers, sometimes intentionally especially by those who intend to mislead and proselytize Catholics away from the Church or want to discredit the Catholic Church, or sometimes unintentionally out of ignorance of the official Catholic doctrines. We need many more videos of well said and well explained Catholic doctrines and practices. Many Catholics are in the periphery of the Church and are not well catechized and evangelized, are disenchanted or have gone cold, or look at the Church as old fashioned and not as pop and rocking in music and dance as others or too big a group to be more personal, hence, they become vulnerable to other teachings especialky those who persistently evangelize to them one on one or in smaller, more intimate groups. This evangelizing spirit and zeal must be learned and done by more and more Catholics too who are equipped through training and spiritual experience and maturity by the grace of God.
So sneak works in the back door and attribute them to God and it's all good huh? There are no works required up front or through the back door. Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of "eternal life" to all who trust Him alone for salvation. This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.
@@colonalklink14 You watch the video and still don't understand the doctrine of the Catholic faith is through the Grace of God we are saved by faith and good works. Protestant can't grasp the meaning of Grace and that's the big problem. Another problem that you have are 40,000 denomination with different doctrines, logically there's only one correct doctrine otherwise what you are worshipping is not God as you might think.
@@ungas024 The real reason for all the Denominations is because they all teach a different mixture of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense just like their mother the Roman Catholic Church. Most say faith alone but then redefine faith as obedience and belief as total commitment. They frontload works into the gospel message by saying that you must repent of your sins to be saved. They backload works into the gospel message by saying that it's not by works but rather works prove you have saving faith. Faith that works is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense. Yes there is only one gospel message. Free grace through and through.
@@ungas024 I've read the early church fathers. There has always been a remnant of people who believed on Christ alone for salvation down through the centuries. They were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church. The Waldenses, Albigenses, Annabaptists, Cathars, Donatists, and Lollards, etc had absolutely nothing to do with the so called Protestant Reformation whatsoever.
I know you don't do these videos for praise and that these are your own works of faith, but please accept my gratitude for your "yes" to our Lord. You have a talent for taking theologically subtle of complex topics and presenting them succinctly and clearly, backed by pertinent quotes.
It only makes sense that we have free will and we need to make that choice, if we all didn't have a choice then God would not know who really is doing it because we want to or is doing it because we have to. That is why God gave us free choice in the beginning anyway so he would know who really wants to be with him and who doesn't and they're just doing it because they have to, thank you so much for telling about this stuff because it's the truth and people need to hear it❤❤❤
Imagine a Protestant believing they can sin nonstop, but consider themselves saved. That’s like telling your wife “I love you!” But then proceeding to abuse over and over. Any sane person would say she should leave him. If this is good enough for man, imagine God’s standard? Actions speak louder than words.
I’ve been back walking with Christ for a little over a month. Through the grace of Jesus Christ I was able to remove several stumbling blocks from my life in one month. Are those works? I believe they are. Are they my works though, I had some part in them but all the praise and honor and glory, goes to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Why, because while I have quit bad habits before (and thats debate able whether I did that on my own either) I’ve never quit so many things all in so short of a time by myself and maintained that. I’ve still slipped, but got back up without being thrown off. The Holy Spirit is what allows and enables that. Now is that works that I can brag about? No, because it’s God’s work. With God I could lift a bus (not literally, because God doesn’t like being tested) but by myself, I’d just hurt my back. “Faith is the evidence of things hoped for.” It has no substance, it’s just words if we don’t take action to prove it. Allowing the Lord to clean up our own lives is allowing his work to be done. Sometimes he may just give us what we pray for other times he may want us to reason things out or confess our problem to a brother. That process and struggle is part of God’s work and can serve as testimony for someone else who is also struggling with that same thing. We are saved by the grace of God so that no one can brag but that doesn’t mean we just sit around and do nothing. What does it really mean to have faith? James had some interesting thoughts on the subject. What does it mean to love our brothers as Jesus loves us? Is love a feeling or an action? James talks about this too. There’s a lot of people talking about OSAS and it’s very concerning. I’m actually raised baptist and there’s some things in the catholic church I find concerning; mostly Francis and his “Everyone is basically good” hog wash, but anyway. God bless. King of kings and Lord of lords, Jesus Christ.
ORAL Tradition & Church AUTHORITY: “Hold Traditions by WORD, or EPISTLE.” (2 Th. 2:15) NO BIBLE ONLY, New Testament RATIFIED in 405 A.D. by ROMAN CATHOLIC Pope Innocent I
Pope Innocent the I reaffirmed it in 405. The canon and approved was in 382 by Pope Damasus the I. I made the same mistake you did, until I re-read it. I’m surprised that Pope Damasus isn’t a saint… yet.
As a Christian, I agree with most of this. Except, can you show me a verse where it says Mary never sinned and that Peter is the first Pope? If Mary never sinned, then she could have been our sacrifice for sin. But the Bible says, "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And Jesus built his church on Himself. He is the Rock, not Peter. Other than these 2 things, this was a solid video.
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@jennacalicchio4312 Catholics don’t follow sola Scriptura!!!! They follow scriptures, oral or sacred tradition which is apostolic tradition, and the magisterium. Who said everything should be included in the bible? Where’s the doctrine of the trinity in the bible? What does the bible say is the pillar and bulwark of the truth? 1 Timothy 3:15. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 paul tells the Thessalonians hold fast to the traditions either written or oral. In terms of mary never sinned. Paul is talking about personal sins. Answer me this do babies sin? Mary was freed from original sin. It’s a prophecy that goes back to genesis 3:15. Mary was seen as the new ark of the covenant by the early church and all the early church fathers. It’s basically like mary almost falling in the pit and jesus rescued her from falling.
Romans 4 5 god considers faith/belief the only thing he doesn’t consider a work, everything past is work. Faith alone, not what you can do but what Jesus did, paid in full.
@@beatlecristian out of context. This is Paul talking about believers and unbelievers. The works being belief. Reward or wrath.Paul makes it clear in 2 Corinthians 5
Romans 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His perfect righteousness. Faith apart from works. Romans 4:6. Colossians 2:13. John 3:18. John 6:47. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that BELIVETH on me, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Second Corinthians 9:15. Thanks be to God for HIs UNSPEAKABLE GIFT, ETERNAL LIFE. Romans 6:23. Ephesians 2:8-9. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. John 3:16. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 6:40 and John 6:29.
Actually faith alone from a catholic understanding can be right if its understood that its a faith in everything that the catholic church teaches in other words practicing everything that the catholic church requires you to do
Thanks man I'm asking the same question again and again. Please share your view on Islam and Christianity in denial of Jesus christ in crucifixion and ressurction
Its pretty simple. any religion that denies jesus is only the son of God, and himself God, born of a virgin, crucified, died and rose from the dead is a false religion and can not save anyone. Anyone who ends up being saved, who happens to be of that religion is saved inspite of it. Not because of it.
@@imisschristendom5293 Thanks for the reply it's simple and clean. John 20:27 It's said don't doubt but have faith. Where Jesus disciple Thomas doubt on Jesus visit to the disciple. And the present world full of doubts and confusion which is shaking my faith to completely believe. It's a believe with doubt which would void. God the father is full of loving and merciful and the people who reject the Jesus divinity both human and God. What about there souls will God forsake their souls unknowingly rejecting because of the false propagation of truth. Comparing the whole world the people rejecting the catholic church and Jesus are more. What about them. It will be simple like. The one with faith no explanation is required but the one who doubt no explanation is possible. But having a strong faith is a question. Sorry to trouble you on this May mother mary lead us through her intercession. 🙏🙏
@@steveraj2115 Islam is a joke of a religion. I truely mean that. Allah in their book is Satan. Please don’t let this confuse you from Arab Christians who say the term Allah. They are referring to our God. Although Allah is not an accurate representation of Jehovah, the Arab language has nothing else in its vocabulary for the term God. Many contradictions are prominent in the Quaran and some very disturbing things are found in the Hadiths.
@@imisschristendom5293 what about Romans 4 with Abraham. He was before the law of Moses so surely you need a better explanation than to just say it’s about the law of Moses.
@@weobeyjesus4565Roman 4;2 Indeed, if Abraham was justified on the basis of his works, he has reason to boast; but this was not so in the sight of God. No one is justified in basis of works. That’s works salvation. That’s condemned by the Catholic Church. St. paul continues to preach true catholic doctrine.
People are justified by grace through repenting of sin through faith, not through the works of the law of Moses such as animal sacrifice. Whether that is a works doctrine or not is the matter of contention. You say it would be a works salvation and not grace but we say it is a grace salvation because it is of forgiveness and therefore not of our works of righteousness. Faith alone is a goofy devil doctrine and you are a fool for falling for it.
8:16 “he’s talking about the Law of Moses, not doing good deeds.” What’s the difference between these two? The Law of Moses IS the Law of Good deeds. Jesus Himself taught that the Law of Moses was about loving your neighbor as yourself.. so what “Law” are you pulling good deeds from if it isn’t the Law of Moses?
You teach the Catholic faith well... I'm really wondering how you can still believe and follow Vatican 2 and their so called heretical popes... It doesn't make sense to me... When will the scales fall off from your eyes
So if we believe in Christ and do charitable work in His name we are saved? But just saying we believe in Christ or just doing charitable things without acknowledging Christ means we aren’t saved?
Christ be with you no, we are saved by Christ forgiveness of our sins, his grace exclusively. We receive this forgiveness of sin initially in baptism (Acts 2:38) His blood cleansed us of unrighteousness, so our righteousness is no longer like dirty rags (Isaiah 64:5-6) But we must keep this righteousness clean without stain. Even not doing something when we know we should, it is a sin (James 4:17) This is one reason why to do good works must do good works to receive eternal life (Gal 6:7-9) it seems a very common thing that people these days do not know what faith in Jesus Christ is. It is not believing that Jesus exists or even that he died for our sins and rose again. No, Faith in Jesus Christ is trusting the Son of God to keep his promises, especially of giving his gift of eternal life made possible by his death burial and resurrection to those who repent and obey him. This is why it is a dead faith if we do not have works. (James 2:24) It is a living faith when we obey Christ teaching because when we obey the teachings and commandments of Christ, he and his faith will abide in us (John 14:20-24) With Christ in us we have life (1 John 5:11-13) God bless you
@@ungas024 Christ be with you No while we cannot do it without God, we must overcome the Flesh (Gal 5:16-21) temptation (James 2:12-16) and the world (1 John 5:1-5) He calls on us to love him through our works and through this love we may Glorify him (John 15:8) we mock God if we think we have eternal life without keeping the Law of Christ, walking in the Spirit and doing Good works. (Gal 6:7-9) read the bible Come to Christ
@@MrKev1664 Wrong, that is Pelagianism which is a heresy back in the early Church History, this thing that says that you don't need God to do good works is a heresy. Against Pelagius, St. Augustine upheld the truth that God’s grace is entirely necessary for any movement of ours towards God to occur at all. As he himself puts it, “We for our part assert that the human will is so divinely aided towards the doing of righteousness that, besides being created with the free choice of his will, and besides the teaching which instructs him how he ought to live, he receives also the Holy Spirit, through which there arises in his heart a delight in and love of that supreme and unchangeable Good which is God; and this arises even now, while he still walks by faith and not by sight.”3
@@ungas024 Sorry, nobody says God’s grace isn't entirely necessary for any movement of ours towards God to occur at all, in fact I quoted that we can do nothing without God. You make my point with the words you quote from St Augustine prove my point. As he say God have given us free will and we assert that will following the instructions of God YOu say "Wrong" but we see At Augustine and I are on the same page. Probably because he knew the quotes, I gave from scripture. God bless you
Its not merit in the strict sense. As in earn. You can not earn salvation. Regardless of how you believe it happens we merits salvation through an act, baptism, confession, extreme unction. But its freely given, not earned. The meriting is that it requires a response on our part.
The weakest argument in the whole section is the false claim that "james chapter 2" somehow says we are not saved by faith alone. The problem is it does not talk about salvific efficacy. James is saying that Faith without works is effective; but lacks evidence and is before men therefor dead: context is key. 0)So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead [dead to whom? to other men]. 1)But someone will say “You have faith and I have deeds.” 2)Show me your faith without deeds, 3)and I will show you my faith BY MY DEEDS." Did you see that? James condemns the catholic approach (you have faith, I have deeds: works done under papal authority), renders the second approach as efficient (faith without works) but declares the final form of faith (faith shown BY deeds) as the best option. Only a catholic ingrate would read it otherwise...
Catholics claim they don't teach you can earn your way to heaven but they teach we obtain heaven by works and that would be earning heaven. There will be so many catholics in a Mathew 7 21-23 situation, they will plead their many wonderful works for entrance Into heaven but they will hear Jesus say I never knew you because they didn't do the will of the father in John 6 40. What must I do to be saved, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Yall are in for a big surprise when you die but it's not to late, stop trusting in yourself and your work and trust in Jesus and his finished work!
@helloitsjules the evidence of if you're saved or not is do you believe in the death, burial and resurrection and are you trusting Chris as savior 1 John 5:10-11.It's a biblical fact that a believer can be carnal, but if they're carnal it doesn't mean they're not saved, just go back and read 1stCorinthians again out of a kjv, specifically chapter5. You make works a requirement for salvation but then you do the mental gymnastics and say the works don't save you, they just prove you're saved 🤦♂️
Ironic you say this while you trust the words and works of men, say can you give me quotes from early Christians proving they believe what you say here, if you cannot your position is wrong
@@KadenGreen-eg1cz you wanna talk irony, you base your belief on what "Church fathers" say rather than what the Bible says, who is the one that follows men again? 😂 I'll quote the Bible rather than some man... For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that NOT of YOURSELVES, it is the GIFT of GOD, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, which God hath before ordained that we SHOULD walk in them.
Johns gospel (written for the purpose of saving the lost see john 21:30-31) clearly says we are saved by "believing on the son" he repeats the single requirement to "believe" 99 times. Turn to Christ in faith as the Bible clearly says we are saved by grace which translates to CHARIS meaning "unmeritted favor/free gift." quite literally. There is a Reason why Paul says in Romans "for the wages of sin is death, but the FREE gift of God is eternal life through christ Jesus our lord." Again grace's literal translation in the Greek is "unmeritted favor/free gift." Salvation is completely free all you have to do is believe that what Jesus did for you 2000 years ago actually worked. He died as a substitute for sin on the cross for you and me because the penalty for sin is death, if the penalty has already been paid and "by grace you have saved through faith" then all you are doing is believing that his payment was for you, a.k.a excepting it and believing you have eternal life as a result of his finished work (and of course believing he rose from the dead as a dead savior can't save you.) The reason you cannot add a work to Christ's finished work is because as Paul makes clear in Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." You aren't under grace if you add something to the gospel because grace must be unmeritted for it to be attributed to you. Again, you are just trusting in what Christ already did for you, that's why in ephesians Paul says "after you believed, you were sealed with that holy spirit of promise, which is the GUARANTEE of our inherentance until the redemption of the purchased possession." Paul can't use the word guarantee here if salvation is partially based off of something you do, as obviously YOU can fail in your efforts meaning there is obviously no guarantee. But if it is entirely based off of what Christ did, then there is a guarantee.
They can't differentiate between justification and sanctification, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED vs WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW THAT I'M SAVED. So they end up mixing up both and they get Work Base salvation.
Romans 2:6, you are denying the Gospel of John you take out of context to support your unhistorical eisegesis, John 3:5 in the eyes of Fathers clearly meant Baptismal regeneration, from that alone it can be proven that your whole thesis fails upon the very foundation you tried to justify it with. Your reference to the Greek word is funny seeming as dont care to reference the Greek word for Faith which also means loyalty or faithfulness debunking the Protestant position, you can do a thing and not merit it although I’m not surprised you didn’t engage with logic enough to realize how inconsistent and blatantly retarded this interpretation is, when you place your Faith in Christ you are doing a work the Bible says so in John 6:28-29, but i bet you just read the verses about faith. Jesus says if you love me you will keep my commandments was Christ’ only commandment to have faith even if it was the Catholic position still stands because as i said earlier the Greek word for faith also mean Faithfulness. Your butchering of Romans 11:6 is quite honestly astounding if you read the book of Romans up to that point you’ll see that that verse is talking about works you do before your are saved effecting your predestination status. Actually Paul can say what he says in Ephesians because once again Faith also means Faithfulness your whole argument is based on chopping off half of the definition of the word Faith in the New Testament context, good day and God bless.
YES RCC TWISTS THE WORD OF GOD JESUS AND THE PROPHETS
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@TheElizabethashby actually that’s Protestantism. They twist scriptures and don’t use context hence over 30,000 denominations. You don’t even agree on the essentials like baptism lol. The bible says the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth. God left a church just like old Israel with structure. It’s not invisible body. God one has one body his church. His spouse.
I wonder what Christianity would look like if when God told Abram, Noah, Job, or Moses to do something they just responded with, "Sorry, Lord. We don't have to do anything because by faith alone we are saved."
James is using the word alone as an adjective modifying the word faith . In that construction every protestant would agree with James. Protestants use the word alone as an adverb modifying the word faith The reformers slogan was that we are justified by faith alone but not by a faith that is alone It is not the value or virtue of faith that justifys us but it is what Faith does as an instrument that justifies us . Faith joins us to Christ and in this mystical union with Christ all his benefits are applied to us . Faith is never alone and is accompanied by other virtues always.
NO SUCH THING AS PURGATORY IN THE BIBLE AND 1 CORINTHIANS 3: 13-16 KJV IS ABOUT WORKS WHETHER GOOD OR BAD IS JUDGMENT FOR THE BELIEVERS THAT ARE SAVED IT IS REWARDS THE BEAMA SEAT
faith alone does not mean you can do whatever you want. Protestants are well aware of the scriptures you quote. It‘s understood like this I would say: you are only saved by faith in jesus christ, but if out of your faith works don‘t follow your faith is shallow and to be doubted at best. It‘s also meant to criticize the practice of indulgences, which were viewed as works.
41 And he sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the multitude putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 And a poor widow came, and put in two copper coins, which make a penny. 43 And he called his disciples to him, and said to them, "Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. 44 For they all contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, her whole living." Mark 12:41-44 8 And Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have defrauded any one of anything, I restore it fourfold." 9 And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham. Luke 19:8-9 8 Bear fruit that befits repentance, 9 and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father'; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham. Matthew 3:8-9 It’s seems to me that Protestants cling to their “faith alone” much like the Jews cling to their bloodline.
Faith in the New Testament context also means Faithfulness when i learned that from an Anglican theologian i knew that the Protestant view of sola fide simply could not be true 😊
This signing of agreements is a novus ordo practice,the Catholic Church is the sole Ark of salvation and in reality has nothing in common with heretics and their man made churches whose gods are demons.
The actual catholic church are the protestants. Protestants have preserved the beliefs of Polykarp and Ignatius. No one in the early church before the 4th century ever endorsed Iconography publicly and widespread (prove it from 1st century sources) and no one in the early church ever said we NEED works in faith to be saved.
@@ChromiumCastleyou find this funny, I was Protestant went I start listening to him, he help change my mind about the Catholic Church, plus reading the church Fathers and others good Catholic apologies on RUclips as well, I plan to join the church this year, I left Protestant years ago, this year I plan to join the church christ build, here in Trinidad were I live, we done have no Sedevacantist stuff lol, but went it come to debunking Orthodoxy lies against the Catholic church, to me, he does it best
@@Triniforchrist If you have proven to be spineless once by leaving your first estate (as the demons in genesis 6 also) then you have not proven a good point. So you admit to have played the role of Judas; to betray the one true Church and now boast in that fact. Sounds alot like the Pharisees. Good luck on your conversion. As far as i can tell, you will be needing plently.
I think Father Mike Schmitz from Ascension Presents puts it beautifully, "we are saved by grace through faith, working itself out in love."
"working itself out in love" is not the quote, what father mike is referencing is two passages in scripture
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith" (Eph 2:8)
and
"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love." (Gal 5:6)
Faith working through love not working itself out in love. It may see like nit picking but it is an important distinction.
And Fr Mike was quoting Scripture, of course!
We are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8)
working in love (Galatians 5:6, 1 Corinthians 13)
and in obedience to God (John 3:36)
Exactly - it's quite simple - Repent - Believe - Receive - Remain (as a Catholic)
@clivejames5058 I am not Catholic though. Merry Christmas to you, though.
The entire New Testament is all about doing good, doing the will of the Father and following the commandments.
So john 3:14-18 6:39-40 is not the will of the Father? Listen, how bout you pray about it, im sure the Father will answer if you trust Him
@Gina Man OP is correct it’s all over the NT. If you are a believer of God you would know the law is to love and all that you do is to love as Christ did … love and mercy it’s the LAW
Matthew 22:37-40 (RSVCE): And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”
Matthew 16:24 (RSVCE): 24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
3 John 11 (RSVCE): 11 Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. He who does good is of God; he who does evil has not seen God.
John 12:26 (RSVCE): If any one serves me, he must follow me; and where I am, there shall my servant be also; if any one serves me, the Father will honor him.
Philippians 3:17 (RSVCE): 17 Brethren, join in imitating me, and mark those who so live as you have an example in us.
1 Corinthians 11:1 (RSVCE): 1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.
Hebrews 13:7 (RSVCE): 7 Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.
@@Davidjune1970 without faith you cant please Father, nor can you keep His comandments... isaiah 41:
13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.
@Gina Man nobody here said without faith. You need to check your comprehension skills. What we postulate as the apostles and most importantly Christ said is that if you have faith and are a true believer that you will act with love, grace and generosity in your life especially to those most in need. Whether that’s by helping them or by prayers or other means you have that lends aid.
As for Jesus, Catholic Mass is entirely centered around Christ and liturgy. Not a sermon that a pastor gives in a protestant church.
Truly if you are not willing to follow in the steps of Christ, we ask do you really even have faith if you cannot serve another person to make their life less dark.
@@Davidjune1970 i used to be catholic. Yall have no faith! Im so happy Father answered my prayers and told me to read the bible! Catholics are fulfilling the galatians 1:8 prophecy
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
Matthew 7:21
(John 6:40)" And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
These are not contrdictory.
@@kuma7949 not contradicting, in your verse it says that Jesus just WANTS everyone who believes in him to do his will. In my verse he says that everyone who does not do God's will despite saying that they believe in him will not come to heaven.
@@LookinUp_ no. First it says, that you can't believe in God and still not be faithful. That is believing in Jesus but still not having the Holy Spirit within them, then God never knew you. This is something we both agree on.
After it says "only those who does the will of God"
The word "does" refers to making actions and actively, while you're in grace show it practically.
What protestants mean by "not by works" is that God won't look at your entire life and see if you've done good the majority of it or not. He will just see in the end if you've been in a state of grace and if you've turned away from all satanic and revealed yourself as God's child.
However, what I am saying is that you can lose your grace. If you're first baptized and confirmed and participate in mass every Sunday, strong believer. Then turn away from God and become a complete atheist for the rest of your life then you are deep down not God's child when you face him during the judgement.
@@kuma7949If you believe in Him, you will do His will. If not, you will follow your own will when the chips are down. Always.
This "works" thing is the most ridiculous accusation against the Catholic Church. But i still hear it from Protestants.
Indeed, it’s often their only argument.
@@rmar67You don't know what God's Word says if you're Catholic.
clear, calm & concise! Thank you.
I see the point of sola fide. But i think we need to remember the point entirely. Our work is still gratitude to our lord for the work of the cross
Yes. The problem is that the papists position forces us into a mode of extremes. before we preach "works of gratitude in christ"
we now have to contest for "faith alone" first.
Well done! Thank you.
Very well explained anchored on the Holy Bible and Catholic sources. Very often these Catholic doctrines are misrepresented by people and preachers, sometimes intentionally especially by those who intend to mislead and proselytize Catholics away from the Church or want to discredit the Catholic Church, or sometimes unintentionally out of ignorance of the official Catholic doctrines. We need many more videos of well said and well explained Catholic doctrines and practices. Many Catholics are in the periphery of the Church and are not well catechized and evangelized, are disenchanted or have gone cold, or look at the Church as old fashioned and not as pop and rocking in music and dance as others or too big a group to be more personal, hence, they become vulnerable to other teachings especialky those who persistently evangelize to them one on one or in smaller, more intimate groups. This evangelizing spirit and zeal must be learned and done by more and more Catholics too who are equipped through training and spiritual experience and maturity by the grace of God.
I like the analogy about Bob, how our good works are actually God’s good works.
So sneak works in the back door and attribute them to God and it's all good huh?
There are no works required up front or through the back door.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of "eternal life" to all who trust Him alone for salvation.
This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.
@@colonalklink14 You watch the video and still don't understand the doctrine of the Catholic faith is through the Grace of God we are saved by faith and good works. Protestant can't grasp the meaning of Grace and that's the big problem. Another problem that you have are 40,000 denomination with different doctrines, logically there's only one correct doctrine otherwise what you are worshipping is not God as you might think.
@@ungas024 The real reason for all the Denominations is because they all teach a different mixture of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense just like their mother the Roman Catholic Church.
Most say faith alone but then redefine faith as obedience and belief as total commitment.
They frontload works into the gospel message by saying that you must repent of your sins to be saved.
They backload works into the gospel message by saying that it's not by works but rather works prove you have saving faith.
Faith that works is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense.
Yes there is only one gospel message.
Free grace through and through.
@Hogan's Heroes so who's doctrine is the correct one? In addition, prove to me that the early Christian have the same doctrine as you are.
@@ungas024 I've read the early church fathers.
There has always been a remnant of people who believed on Christ alone for salvation down through the centuries.
They were persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church.
The Waldenses, Albigenses, Annabaptists, Cathars, Donatists, and Lollards, etc had absolutely nothing to do with the so called Protestant Reformation whatsoever.
Very well said thank you
God asks our cooperation through grace for our Salvation.
I know you don't do these videos for praise and that these are your own works of faith, but please accept my gratitude for your "yes" to our Lord. You have a talent for taking theologically subtle of complex topics and presenting them succinctly and clearly, backed by pertinent quotes.
Thank you very much
It only makes sense that we have free will and we need to make that choice, if we all didn't have a choice then God would not know who really is doing it because we want to or is doing it because we have to. That is why God gave us free choice in the beginning anyway so he would know who really wants to be with him and who doesn't and they're just doing it because they have to, thank you so much for telling about this stuff because it's the truth and people need to hear it❤❤❤
Imagine a Protestant believing they can sin nonstop, but consider themselves saved.
That’s like telling your wife “I love you!” But then proceeding to abuse over and over. Any sane person would say she should leave him.
If this is good enough for man, imagine God’s standard?
Actions speak louder than words.
Which Protestants believe that?
@@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv I saw a video from Pastor Anderson. Some believe in once saved, always saved.
Thank You Thank You Thank You !!! God Bless You My Brother ....
I’ve been back walking with Christ for a little over a month. Through the grace of Jesus Christ I was able to remove several stumbling blocks from my life in one month. Are those works? I believe they are. Are they my works though, I had some part in them but all the praise and honor and glory, goes to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Why, because while I have quit bad habits before (and thats debate able whether I did that on my own either) I’ve never quit so many things all in so short of a time by myself and maintained that. I’ve still slipped, but got back up without being thrown off. The Holy Spirit is what allows and enables that. Now is that works that I can brag about? No, because it’s God’s work. With God I could lift a bus (not literally, because God doesn’t like being tested) but by myself, I’d just hurt my back.
“Faith is the evidence of things hoped for.” It has no substance, it’s just words if we don’t take action to prove it. Allowing the Lord to clean up our own lives is allowing his work to be done. Sometimes he may just give us what we pray for other times he may want us to reason things out or confess our problem to a brother. That process and struggle is part of God’s work and can serve as testimony for someone else who is also struggling with that same thing.
We are saved by the grace of God so that no one can brag but that doesn’t mean we just sit around and do nothing.
What does it really mean to have faith? James had some interesting thoughts on the subject.
What does it mean to love our brothers as Jesus loves us? Is love a feeling or an action? James talks about this too. There’s a lot of people talking about OSAS and it’s very concerning. I’m actually raised baptist and there’s some things in the catholic church I find concerning; mostly Francis and his “Everyone is basically good” hog wash, but anyway. God bless. King of kings and Lord of lords, Jesus Christ.
Ζήτω Χριστός Αιώνιος!
Outstanding content as usual! I hope you and your family have a blessed Advent and Christmas season.
Excellent video, very well done
100 % agreed!
ORAL Tradition & Church AUTHORITY: “Hold Traditions by WORD, or EPISTLE.” (2 Th. 2:15)
NO BIBLE ONLY, New Testament RATIFIED in 405 A.D. by ROMAN CATHOLIC Pope Innocent I
Pope Innocent the I reaffirmed it in 405. The canon and approved was in 382 by Pope Damasus the I. I made the same mistake you did, until I re-read it. I’m surprised that Pope Damasus isn’t a saint… yet.
As a Christian, I agree with most of this. Except, can you show me a verse where it says Mary never sinned and that Peter is the first Pope? If Mary never sinned, then she could have been our sacrifice for sin. But the Bible says, "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And Jesus built his church on Himself. He is the Rock, not Peter. Other than these 2 things, this was a solid video.
@jennacalicchio4312 Catholics don’t follow sola Scriptura!!!! They follow scriptures, oral or sacred tradition which is apostolic tradition, and the magisterium. Who said everything should be included in the bible? Where’s the doctrine of the trinity in the bible? What does the bible say is the pillar and bulwark of the truth? 1 Timothy 3:15. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 paul tells the Thessalonians hold fast to the traditions either written or oral. In terms of mary never sinned. Paul is talking about personal sins. Answer me this do babies sin? Mary was freed from original sin. It’s a prophecy that goes back to genesis 3:15. Mary was seen as the new ark of the covenant by the early church and all the early church fathers. It’s basically like mary almost falling in the pit and jesus rescued her from falling.
Isn’t having faith an act of the will which is a work?
Exactly. Only Calvinism and Catholicism make logical sense, but Catholicism is much more biblical.
Yes but it's not enough
Romans 4 5 god considers faith/belief the only thing he doesn’t consider a work, everything past is work. Faith alone, not what you can do but what Jesus did, paid in full.
@@Everykneebows Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his works
@@beatlecristian out of context. This is Paul talking about believers and unbelievers. The works being belief. Reward or wrath.Paul makes it clear in 2 Corinthians 5
Romans 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His perfect righteousness. Faith apart from works. Romans 4:6. Colossians 2:13.
John 3:18. John 6:47. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that BELIVETH on me, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.
First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Second Corinthians 9:15. Thanks be to God for HIs UNSPEAKABLE GIFT, ETERNAL LIFE. Romans 6:23. Ephesians 2:8-9. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30.
John 3:16. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 6:40 and John 6:29.
Actually faith alone from a catholic understanding can be right if its understood that its a faith in everything that the catholic church teaches in other words practicing everything that the catholic church requires you to do
Thanks man
I'm asking the same question again and again.
Please share your view on Islam and Christianity in denial of Jesus christ in crucifixion and ressurction
Its pretty simple. any religion that denies jesus is only the son of God, and himself God, born of a virgin, crucified, died and rose from the dead is a false religion and can not save anyone. Anyone who ends up being saved, who happens to be of that religion is saved inspite of it. Not because of it.
@@imisschristendom5293 Thanks for the reply it's simple and clean.
John 20:27
It's said don't doubt but have faith. Where Jesus disciple Thomas doubt on Jesus visit to the disciple. And the present world full of doubts and confusion which is shaking my faith to completely believe.
It's a believe with doubt which would void.
God the father is full of loving and merciful and the people who reject the Jesus divinity both human and God.
What about there souls will God forsake their souls unknowingly rejecting because of the false propagation of truth.
Comparing the whole world the people rejecting the catholic church and Jesus are more. What about them.
It will be simple like.
The one with faith no explanation is required but the one who doubt no explanation is possible.
But having a strong faith is a question.
Sorry to trouble you on this
May mother mary lead us through her intercession. 🙏🙏
@@steveraj2115 Islam is a joke of a religion. I truely mean that. Allah in their book is Satan. Please don’t let this confuse you from Arab Christians who say the term Allah. They are referring to our God. Although Allah is not an accurate representation of Jehovah, the Arab language has nothing else in its vocabulary for the term God. Many contradictions are prominent in the Quaran and some very disturbing things are found in the Hadiths.
Do you cover Rom 11;6? They use that verse.
Again, he is talking about works of the misaic law, not charity
@@imisschristendom5293 what about Romans 4 with Abraham. He was before the law of Moses so surely you need a better explanation than to just say it’s about the law of Moses.
@@weobeyjesus4565Roman 4;2
Indeed, if Abraham was justified on the basis of his works, he has reason to boast; but this was not so in the sight of God.
No one is justified in basis of works. That’s works salvation. That’s condemned by the Catholic Church. St. paul continues to preach true catholic doctrine.
People are justified by grace through repenting of sin through faith, not through the works of the law of Moses such as animal sacrifice. Whether that is a works doctrine or not is the matter of contention. You say it would be a works salvation and not grace but we say it is a grace salvation because it is of forgiveness and therefore not of our works of righteousness. Faith alone is a goofy devil doctrine and you are a fool for falling for it.
@@weobeyjesus4565 what.. are you on about? I’m catholic. I don’t believe in sola fide lol.
So it's a free gift that you can lose... then get back.. then lose.. then get back?
8:16 “he’s talking about the Law of Moses, not doing good deeds.”
What’s the difference between these two? The Law of Moses IS the Law of Good deeds. Jesus Himself taught that the Law of Moses was about loving your neighbor as yourself.. so what “Law” are you pulling good deeds from if it isn’t the Law of Moses?
You teach the Catholic faith well... I'm really wondering how you can still believe and follow Vatican 2 and their so called heretical popes... It doesn't make sense to me...
When will the scales fall off from your eyes
So if we believe in Christ and do charitable work in His name we are saved? But just saying we believe in Christ or just doing charitable things without acknowledging Christ means we aren’t saved?
Christ be with you
no, we are saved by Christ forgiveness of our sins, his grace exclusively.
We receive this forgiveness of sin initially in baptism (Acts 2:38)
His blood cleansed us of unrighteousness, so our righteousness is no longer like dirty rags (Isaiah 64:5-6)
But we must keep this righteousness clean without stain.
Even not doing something when we know we should, it is a sin (James 4:17)
This is one reason why to do good works must do good works to receive eternal life (Gal 6:7-9)
it seems a very common thing that people these days do not know what faith in Jesus Christ is.
It is not believing that Jesus exists or even that he died for our sins and rose again.
No, Faith in Jesus Christ is trusting the Son of God to keep his promises, especially of giving his gift of eternal life made possible by his death burial and resurrection to those who repent and obey him.
This is why it is a dead faith if we do not have works. (James 2:24)
It is a living faith when we obey Christ teaching because when we obey the teachings and commandments of Christ, he and his faith will abide in us (John 14:20-24)
With Christ in us we have life (1 John 5:11-13)
God bless you
All you do is because of God not because of you, it is by the Grace of God that make you do good works.
@@ungas024
Christ be with you
No
while we cannot do it without God, we must overcome the Flesh (Gal 5:16-21) temptation (James 2:12-16) and the world (1 John 5:1-5)
He calls on us to love him through our works and through this love we may Glorify him (John 15:8)
we mock God if we think we have eternal life without keeping the Law of Christ, walking in the Spirit and doing Good works. (Gal 6:7-9)
read the bible
Come to Christ
@@MrKev1664 Wrong, that is Pelagianism which is a heresy back in the early Church History, this thing that says that you don't need God to do good works is a heresy.
Against Pelagius, St. Augustine upheld the truth that God’s grace is entirely necessary for any movement of ours towards God to occur at all. As he himself puts it, “We for our part assert that the human will is so divinely aided towards the doing of righteousness that, besides being created with the free choice of his will, and besides the teaching which instructs him how he ought to live, he receives also the Holy Spirit, through which there arises in his heart a delight in and love of that supreme and unchangeable Good which is God; and this arises even now, while he still walks by faith and not by sight.”3
@@ungas024
Sorry, nobody says God’s grace isn't entirely necessary for any movement of ours towards God to occur at all, in fact I quoted that we can do nothing without God.
You make my point with the words you quote from St Augustine prove my point.
As he say God have given us free will and we assert that will following the instructions of God
YOu say "Wrong" but we see At Augustine and I are on the same page.
Probably because he knew the quotes, I gave from scripture.
God bless you
Getting a LOT out of your videos. Thank you!
Thank you
Catechism says that one must MERIT salvation !
That's HERESY !
Its not merit in the strict sense. As in earn. You can not earn salvation.
Regardless of how you believe it happens we merits salvation through an act, baptism, confession, extreme unction. But its freely given, not earned. The meriting is that it requires a response on our part.
@@imisschristendom5293Don't play around with me !
You heretic !!
I Corinthians verse about "so as through fire" is talking about WORKS, NOT a person !
@@imisschristendom5293Merit is MERIT.
There's NO strict sense or Non strict sense !
@@imisschristendom5293 Of course faith without works is dead. That's DOESN'T mean that Anyone can earn their way into heaven !
The weakest argument in the whole section is the false claim that "james chapter 2" somehow says we are not saved by faith alone.
The problem is it does not talk about salvific efficacy. James is saying that Faith without works is effective; but lacks evidence and is before men
therefor dead: context is key.
0)So too, faith by itself, if it does not result in action, is dead [dead to whom? to other men].
1)But someone will say “You have faith and I have deeds.”
2)Show me your faith without deeds,
3)and I will show you my faith BY MY DEEDS."
Did you see that? James condemns the catholic approach (you have faith, I have deeds: works done under papal authority), renders the second approach as efficient (faith without works)
but declares the final form of faith (faith shown BY deeds) as the best option.
Only a catholic ingrate would read it otherwise...
That's your personal infallible interpretation of the book of James is it ? You'll understand that I won't take your word as gospel.
Catholics claim they don't teach you can earn your way to heaven but they teach we obtain heaven by works and that would be earning heaven. There will be so many catholics in a Mathew 7 21-23 situation, they will plead their many wonderful works for entrance Into heaven but they will hear Jesus say I never knew you because they didn't do the will of the father in John 6 40. What must I do to be saved, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Yall are in for a big surprise when you die but it's not to late, stop trusting in yourself and your work and trust in Jesus and his finished work!
@helloitsjules the evidence of if you're saved or not is do you believe in the death, burial and resurrection and are you trusting Chris as savior 1 John 5:10-11.It's a biblical fact that a believer can be carnal, but if they're carnal it doesn't mean they're not saved, just go back and read 1stCorinthians again out of a kjv, specifically chapter5. You make works a requirement for salvation but then you do the mental gymnastics and say the works don't save you, they just prove you're saved 🤦♂️
I don't even understand your position. We do good works and somehow Jesus would say He never know us? I don't even know where to begin with
Read Matthew 6:2. What is the reward?
Ironic you say this while you trust the words and works of men, say can you give me quotes from early Christians proving they believe what you say here, if you cannot your position is wrong
@@KadenGreen-eg1cz you wanna talk irony, you base your belief on what "Church fathers" say rather than what the Bible says, who is the one that follows men again? 😂
I'll quote the Bible rather than some man...
For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that NOT of YOURSELVES, it is the GIFT of GOD, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus UNTO good works, which God hath before ordained that we SHOULD walk in them.
Johns gospel (written for the purpose of saving the lost see john 21:30-31) clearly says we are saved by "believing on the son" he repeats the single requirement to "believe" 99 times. Turn to Christ in faith as the Bible clearly says we are saved by grace which translates to CHARIS meaning "unmeritted favor/free gift." quite literally. There is a Reason why Paul says in Romans "for the wages of sin is death, but the FREE gift of God is eternal life through christ Jesus our lord." Again grace's literal translation in the Greek is "unmeritted favor/free gift." Salvation is completely free all you have to do is believe that what Jesus did for you 2000 years ago actually worked. He died as a substitute for sin on the cross for you and me because the penalty for sin is death, if the penalty has already been paid and "by grace you have saved through faith" then all you are doing is believing that his payment was for you, a.k.a excepting it and believing you have eternal life as a result of his finished work (and of course believing he rose from the dead as a dead savior can't save you.) The reason you cannot add a work to Christ's finished work is because as Paul makes clear in Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." You aren't under grace if you add something to the gospel because grace must be unmeritted for it to be attributed to you. Again, you are just trusting in what Christ already did for you, that's why in ephesians Paul says "after you believed, you were sealed with that holy spirit of promise, which is the GUARANTEE of our inherentance until the redemption of the purchased possession." Paul can't use the word guarantee here if salvation is partially based off of something you do, as obviously YOU can fail in your efforts meaning there is obviously no guarantee. But if it is entirely based off of what Christ did, then there is a guarantee.
They can't differentiate between justification and sanctification, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED vs WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW THAT I'M SAVED.
So they end up mixing up both and they get Work Base salvation.
Romans 2:6, you are denying the Gospel of John you take out of context to support your unhistorical eisegesis, John 3:5 in the eyes of Fathers clearly meant Baptismal regeneration, from that alone it can be proven that your whole thesis fails upon the very foundation you tried to justify it with. Your reference to the Greek word is funny seeming as dont care to reference the Greek word for Faith which also means loyalty or faithfulness debunking the Protestant position, you can do a thing and not merit it although I’m not surprised you didn’t engage with logic enough to realize how inconsistent and blatantly retarded this interpretation is, when you place your Faith in Christ you are doing a work the Bible says so in John 6:28-29, but i bet you just read the verses about faith. Jesus says if you love me you will keep my commandments was Christ’ only commandment to have faith even if it was the Catholic position still stands because as i said earlier the Greek word for faith also mean Faithfulness. Your butchering of Romans 11:6 is quite honestly astounding if you read the book of Romans up to that point you’ll see that that verse is talking about works you do before your are saved effecting your predestination status. Actually Paul can say what he says in Ephesians because once again Faith also means Faithfulness your whole argument is based on chopping off half of the definition of the word Faith in the New Testament context, good day and God bless.
YES RCC TWISTS THE WORD OF GOD JESUS AND THE PROPHETS
@TheElizabethashby actually that’s Protestantism. They twist scriptures and don’t use context hence over 30,000 denominations. You don’t even agree on the essentials like baptism lol. The bible says the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth. God left a church just like old Israel with structure. It’s not invisible body. God one has one body his church. His spouse.
I wonder what Christianity would look like if when God told Abram, Noah, Job, or Moses to do something they just responded with, "Sorry, Lord. We don't have to do anything because by faith alone we are saved."
So Baseeeed
James is using the word alone as an adjective modifying the word faith . In that construction every protestant would agree with James. Protestants use the word alone as an adverb modifying the word faith
The reformers slogan was that we are justified by faith alone but not by a faith that is alone
It is not the value or virtue of faith that justifys us but it is what Faith does as an instrument that justifies us . Faith joins us to Christ and in this mystical union with Christ all his benefits are applied to us .
Faith is never alone and is accompanied by other virtues always.
NO SUCH THING AS PURGATORY IN THE BIBLE AND 1 CORINTHIANS 3: 13-16 KJV IS ABOUT WORKS WHETHER GOOD OR BAD IS JUDGMENT FOR THE BELIEVERS THAT ARE SAVED IT IS REWARDS THE BEAMA SEAT
faith alone does not mean you can do whatever you want. Protestants are well aware of the scriptures you quote.
It‘s understood like this I would say: you are only saved by faith in jesus christ, but if out of your faith works don‘t follow your faith is shallow and to be doubted at best.
It‘s also meant to criticize the practice of indulgences, which were viewed as works.
41 And he sat down opposite the treasury, and watched the multitude putting money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums.
42 And a poor widow came, and put in two copper coins, which make a penny.
43 And he called his disciples to him, and said to them, "Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury.
44 For they all contributed out of their abundance; but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, her whole living."
Mark 12:41-44
8 And Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have defrauded any one of anything, I restore it fourfold."
9 And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham.
Luke 19:8-9
8 Bear fruit that befits repentance,
9 and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father'; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham.
Matthew 3:8-9
It’s seems to me that Protestants cling to their “faith alone” much like the Jews cling to their bloodline.
Faith in the New Testament context also means Faithfulness when i learned that from an Anglican theologian i knew that the Protestant view of sola fide simply could not be true 😊
YOU CAN NOT LOSE YOUR SALVATION ONCE YOU ARE SAVED
1 John 5:16-17
This signing of agreements is a novus ordo practice,the Catholic Church is the sole Ark of salvation and in reality has nothing in common with heretics and their man made churches whose gods are demons.
The actual catholic church are the protestants. Protestants have preserved the beliefs of Polykarp and Ignatius.
No one in the early church before the 4th century ever endorsed Iconography publicly and widespread (prove it from 1st century sources) and no one in the early church
ever said we NEED works in faith to be saved.
Would love to see you make videos against Eastern "Orthodoxy"
Watch Peter Dimond, he got a lot on Orthodoxcy
@@Triniforchrist I know, but I feel icky taking it from a Sedevacantist source lol
@@ChromiumCastleyou find this funny, I was Protestant went I start listening to him, he help change my mind about the Catholic Church, plus reading the church Fathers and others good Catholic apologies on RUclips as well, I plan to join the church this year, I left Protestant years ago, this year I plan to join the church christ build, here in Trinidad were I live, we done have no Sedevacantist stuff lol, but went it come to debunking Orthodoxy lies against the Catholic church, to me, he does it best
@@Triniforchrist Congrats on the conversion, brother. Welcome home.
@@Triniforchrist If you have proven to be spineless once by leaving your first estate (as the demons in genesis 6 also)
then you have not proven a good point. So you admit to have played the role of Judas; to betray the one true Church and now boast in that fact.
Sounds alot like the Pharisees. Good luck on your conversion. As far as i can tell, you will be needing plently.