@@scottyerkes1867 Thanks. However I just see platform doors as being another expense that needs maintenance which our ordinary Trains seem to manage reasonably well without.
Yes, however the inherent safety benefits and increase in platform capacity trumps any standing negatives of screen doors. Only other alternative would be laser obstacle detectors or track-bed pressure plates. But those turn out to be more expensive to implement and maintain.
@@tressteleg1 They don't manage without. Fatalities and injuries happen. Three fatalities on the Sydney Trains system in the last couple of months alone that would have been prevented by platform screens.
@@tonyhworks Apparently different train types are different lengths, so doors are in different places which would make any line with different train types impossible to fit with platform doors. Can you name any suburban line anywhere with drivers that is using platform doors? Most government would shy away from the costs no matter the benefits.
@@tressteleg1 Obviously depends on standard positions of train doors, thus not possible on Sydney suburban trains at present. But your comment implied that they are an unnecessary expense on the metro. Obviously they're life-savers. How much is a human life worth?
@@BigBlueMan118 I’m not. But with no train scenes (except for what I can get on HET tours) and only 3 tram lines, there is not much to choose from, so I have to ignore my personal thoughts. I don’t like buses either, but have nevertheless done some with buses.
@@tressteleg1 If I gave you a magic lamp and said: you could turn back time and you could save one former tram line from the old Sydney system - any of them, including the old Northern Beaches system - which would be your pick to go for a joy ride and why? Watsons Bay maybe, or North Bondi? Manly or perhaps Bronte or something totally different like Lane Cove over the Harbour Bridge into Wynyard Tunnels?
@@BigBlueMan118 I think I would chose Wynyard to Balmoral Beach although I don’t think that was a single route in practice. Certainly Chatswood to Balmoral ran, but city workers were expected to take, I think, ferry to Zoo, then tram to BB. My suggestion includes the magic of Harbour Bridge and Tunnels, with which I was quite familiar, while the rock cuttings to the beach were impressive as well as views before the descent, and then of course there was the swim at the far end…
@@tressteleg1 I am sure towards the end some tour groups must have done the route you are talking about, that would be really cool for sure! I think for me as a tram fan, and I know this wasn't an actual regular route either: it is hard to go past the thrill, nostalgia and uniqueness of being able to catch the Balmain dummy tram up the insanely steep hill, then over the swinging Glebe Island Bridge and through Pyrmont to the old Railway Square shelter, and down George Street through The Rocks and under the Harbour Bridge and spinning around the Argyle St loop terminus underneath Observatory Hill. From the perspective of handling actual passenger traffic the city needs though I obviously would have kept track on Parramatta Road-Oxford Street-Bondi Road.
@@BigBlueMan118 I think everyone would have their own favourite route mostly determined by what they experienced or may have read about. As for fan tours, only Watson Bay Botany, Coogee, La Perouse and Maroubra were left when I was old enough to go on fan tours, and generally they did not methodically follow routes but if had they had several destinations, crossovers would be used to minimise the backtracking necessary to go from one terminus to another to another. Tracks which normally did not carry passengers would also be included where possible. One Saturday afternoon probably 1957 or 1958 while walking past the high school in Falcon Street Crows Nest I saw a D class scrubber go past with a number of passengers on board. I guessed it must have been a fan tour, but could do nothing about finding out more about it. By then very likely it could have covered just about all of North Sydney in one afternoon.
Nice metro ride. Like the safety doors on the platforms. Thanks tressteleg1🥰👌👍
@@scottyerkes1867 Thanks. However I just see platform doors as being another expense that needs maintenance which our ordinary Trains seem to manage reasonably well without.
Yes, however the inherent safety benefits and increase in platform capacity trumps any standing negatives of screen doors. Only other alternative would be laser obstacle detectors or track-bed pressure plates. But those turn out to be more expensive to implement and maintain.
@@tressteleg1 They don't manage without. Fatalities and injuries happen. Three fatalities on the Sydney Trains system in the last couple of months alone that would have been prevented by platform screens.
@@tonyhworks Apparently different train types are different lengths, so doors are in different places which would make any line with different train types impossible to fit with platform doors.
Can you name any suburban line anywhere with drivers that is using platform doors? Most government would shy away from the costs no matter the benefits.
@@tressteleg1 Obviously depends on standard positions of train doors, thus not possible on Sydney suburban trains at present. But your comment implied that they are an unnecessary expense on the metro. Obviously they're life-savers. How much is a human life worth?
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That must be filmed in early 2024.
@@SydneyTransitVlogs Yep, Feb/Mar.
Nice metro ride
@@MainTransportvlogs 👍😊
Delete tram and train news 1986/87
@@Murrumban Why?
I thought you weren’t a fan of automated metro systems mate?!?
@@BigBlueMan118 I’m not. But with no train scenes (except for what I can get on HET tours) and only 3 tram lines, there is not much to choose from, so I have to ignore my personal thoughts. I don’t like buses either, but have nevertheless done some with buses.
@@tressteleg1 If I gave you a magic lamp and said: you could turn back time and you could save one former tram line from the old Sydney system - any of them, including the old Northern Beaches system - which would be your pick to go for a joy ride and why?
Watsons Bay maybe, or North Bondi? Manly or perhaps Bronte or something totally different like Lane Cove over the Harbour Bridge into Wynyard Tunnels?
@@BigBlueMan118 I think I would chose Wynyard to Balmoral Beach although I don’t think that was a single route in practice. Certainly Chatswood to Balmoral ran, but city workers were expected to take, I think, ferry to Zoo, then tram to BB. My suggestion includes the magic of Harbour Bridge and Tunnels, with which I was quite familiar, while the rock cuttings to the beach were impressive as well as views before the descent, and then of course there was the swim at the far end…
@@tressteleg1 I am sure towards the end some tour groups must have done the route you are talking about, that would be really cool for sure!
I think for me as a tram fan, and I know this wasn't an actual regular route either: it is hard to go past the thrill, nostalgia and uniqueness of being able to catch the Balmain dummy tram up the insanely steep hill, then over the swinging Glebe Island Bridge and through Pyrmont to the old Railway Square shelter, and down George Street through The Rocks and under the Harbour Bridge and spinning around the Argyle St loop terminus underneath Observatory Hill.
From the perspective of handling actual passenger traffic the city needs though I obviously would have kept track on Parramatta Road-Oxford Street-Bondi Road.
@@BigBlueMan118 I think everyone would have their own favourite route mostly determined by what they experienced or may have read about. As for fan tours, only Watson Bay Botany, Coogee, La Perouse and Maroubra were left when I was old enough to go on fan tours, and generally they did not methodically follow routes but if had they had several destinations, crossovers would be used to minimise the backtracking necessary to go from one terminus to another to another. Tracks which normally did not carry passengers would also be included where possible. One Saturday afternoon probably 1957 or 1958 while walking past the high school in Falcon Street Crows Nest I saw a D class scrubber go past with a number of passengers on board. I guessed it must have been a fan tour, but could do nothing about finding out more about it. By then very likely it could have covered just about all of North Sydney in one afternoon.