Even as kid on hindsight it made sense. For some reason the momment i play pokemon i throw commonsense out of the window. I wish there was drone evolutions. Yes i know i said commonsense but imagine a paladin type of shit (fakemon, seen it once and love that thing)
What about Tyrogue? Doesn’t it count? It needs a specific stat distribution to evolve into the one you want. When I was a kid I remember wanting an Hitmontop but just couldn’t get one, because I didn’t understand the mechanics and thought it was just luck based… 😅
Alright so, the weird numbers. I'm taking these from Bulbapedia so that you don't have to look it up: - For *Runerigus,* the number of 49 could be a reference to a Buddhist equivalent of purgatory between death and reincarnation, which lasts 49 days. Given that some Yamask are human spirits reborn as Pokemon, this makes a degree of sense. - For *Basculegion,* 294 can be read as "nikushi", which is archaic Japanese for "hatred". Ghosts and hateful grudges usually go together.
I see these new convoluted evolution methods more as side quests you have to complete, with the reward for the quest being the evolution. The problem is that Gamefreak rarely gives a way to figure out these evolution methods. This isn't a new issue- like how is a kid supposed to figure out a Nidorina evolves with a moon stone. Gamefreak can fix this in a few ways. First, have the information told to you by the NPC or the environment. For example, Galar route 6 houses ruins, and is also where Galarian Yamask can be found. Imagine if the ruins had a statue of a Runerigus, and there were inscriptions underneath that were the instructions on how to evolve Yamask. It's a natural way to let the player know about the evolution method and rewards the player for investigating the statue. Next are actual side quests given to you by NPCs, mostly to obtain evolution items. Like imagine a scientist NPC asking you to help him research Porygon by leveling it up and using it in battle, and after completing the tasks he uses the research to create an upgrade to evolve porygon into porygon2. Or a miner npc who asks you to gather materials to create a protector to evolve rhydon into rhyperior. Then, these NPCs can give you more of the item if you want to evolve more of the pokemon, in exchange for money or items. The most universal method would be a Legends Arceus style Pokedex, where you have to do tasks to fill out the dex instead of just catching the pokemon. After youve done enough research on that pokemon, the dex will just tell you how to evolve it.
Milcery evolution you forgot to mention is it also depends on time of day. Rainbow alcremie can only be gotten at dusk when the sky is orange when you do the spin.
I thought about doing an honorable mention section but yeah it was too similar to regular level up and pretty similar to Shedinjas as well so it didn't make the cut
the xtransceiver in gen 5 was a huge help for obscure evolutions, since you could call the professor and get a hint in the right direction if you wanted to
I got that damn dolphin in Scarlet all the way to the Champion fight and i only found out the way it evolves on a random tiktok video before i deleted the app, not to mention online i was avoiding for my first playthrough. Ut since i avoided npcs cause Tauros owner froze my game upon talking to him.
Gamefreak in Gen 8: location based evolutions are too complicated, lets just make them stones. Also Gamereak in Gen 8: so here's how you evolve G-Yamask.....
As soon as Sun and Moon was announced, I avoided anything pokemon related until the game came out so I could play it blind and through fresh eyes. I had a crabrawler leveled into the 50s and it wouldn't evolve despite trying all the methods I could think of. I finally decide to look it up(while still covering up its evolution to not spoil it for myself) and saw that it had to be at Mt. Lanakila. Location based evolutions weren't new, nor where they usually that difficult to figure out. But who would think you needed to bring a crab to a freakin' mountain? Especially a pokemon you can get pretty early on and the location is at the end of the game. Plus it's not like its evolution is a world beater and worth the wait(it has incredible attack but that's it), not to mention it's kind of hideous.
My first accidental evolution ever, as in I thought never to be able to get there as I didn't even knew it was possible. Was Leafeon. It's still my fave evoltuion as it was so, unique in Sun and Moon to have it. And man it did help me out in so many battles. I truly loved playing with it and I try to have it in every game since.
I think that Stone and Trade evolutions are fine alternatives to normal level up, i think there should even be a third odd evo method (there really should be an in game way to obtain trade evos without trqding, maybe a post game item). I really don't like these unique one way evos, it feels so strange to ether loos a specific areas or specific styles in later games
i remember having an Inkay untill the end of the x and y. after that i always google evolution methods for my party members in later games to make sure there wasn't anything stupid i had to do,
I always wondered how much of the Pokédex may somebody complete with only in-game knowledge. Nobody explains the Runerigus evolution for example. Trading and evolution stones or items may happen with trial and error but those more obscure evolution methods...?
I get them wanting to do something like this but they should also add npc's that would give hints on how to evolve these specific pokemon so we don't need search them up
@@maryannmcconnell1049 my point being that it's a well thought out and put together video, and I commented "how does this only have 54 views" as a way to compliment the creator, implying that it is such a good video that it should have more views despite it being very recent.
My only gripe sbout odd or obscure methods is the absence of any in-game hint at their existence. With a number of the "trade with item" Evos, the item will at least include "beloved by a certain Pokémon" or a similarly worded phrase to get you thinking. Runerigus is the King of Unnecessarily Convoluted because: there's no real correlation between the method and the evolution; you are unlikely to stumble upon it accidentally; there's no hint at the method in-game, meaning the only way a person can feasibly learn of it is to use a third-party source. Inkay's a bit of an annoying gimmick, but you can at least follow the logic behind it. And I would argue the same applies to Milcery. There is none, to my knowledge, explaining Runerigus (unless this method is a reference to some well-known Viking's in England trivium, which I'm not British enough to properly recognize).
Totally valid, I didn’t include him cause Stantler and hisuian quilfish both evolve by using a move 20 times as well. Different moves but it’s similar enough so they didnt make the cut
@@FargusPhilHowever, Stantler and Hisuian Qwilfish have an extra layer of complexity: they have to use moves in a certain style. Stantler has to use Psyshield Bash in Agile style 20 times, and Hisuian Qwilfish has to use Barb Barrage in Strong style 20 times. Considering using a move in Agile or Strong style uses 2 PP, and each move only has 10 PP, that means using it five times, then healing a total of four times. Primeape only has to heal twice. I understand that this is meant to make these evolutions possible only in Hisui, but that doesn't mean that it isn't annoying. Also, why did they do it for the Qwilfish? I get why they did it for Stantler. You don't want a Stantler in a modern day game to be able to evolve into Wyrdeer, but if you have a Hisuian Qwilfish, why can't the Qwilfish evolve anywhere it is? It's already a Hisuian Qwilfish.
I don't mind some of these methods,but can they please introduce like a "trade stone" or something? It'd make getting and using the likes of Gengar,Alakazam and Machamp way easier and you get to use the one you originally caught instead of a traded one
That actually is an item! In legends arceus (I think) they introduced a Link Cable item that evolves trade Pokémon, it’s in scarlet and violet too I believe
They should just make sure an npc tells you how possibly cryptically or that its in the pokedex entry so you can play the game blind. Having to look stuff up is no fun and breaks immersion.
People always talk like this was recent, my brother in christ this was around since gen 1 with trade evos. How were you supposed to figure out Runerigus without randomly stumbling across it? Same way you were supposed to figure out Gengar back in the day, you weren't.
The games were built with trading in mind. It can be reasonably stumbled upon and extended media also reveals the trade+item method. Only problem is it required a link cable so I was stuck with a Graveler. Runerigus is just dumb from a gameplay peerspective. Seems more like a lore addition.
@@Dukstless Just so happening to find some random out-of-the-way NPC who says that thier Graveler evolved when traded is a lot different than just looking at Inkay and Malamar's designs, Inkay's dex entries and their signature move (Topsy-Turvy, before Grapploct got it anyway) and figuring out you need to do something with the Inkay being upside-down to evolve it
@@bIuecrimson I mean, how were you supposed to know to trade specifically Kadabra, Haunter, Graveler and Machoke to evolve them? If you had them on your team you wouldn't want to trade it, and they're not too rare so most people wouldn't want to get them unless they already knew. Sure, stuff like the anime can tell you about it, but they've also done that for stuff like Inkay before. NPC's mention it, but they're usually extremely inconspicuous ones you wouldn't think twice about. It gets even worse with item trade evos, because i don't think a single trainer in all of DP uses Rhyperior, so you'd likely get as far as finding the Protector (already pretty difficult) and having no clue you had to specifically give it to one Pokémon and trade it. Porygon-Z is the exception because the Dubious Disk is very clearly related to the Upgrade.
I really hope game freak stops with the overly obtuse evolution methods. Stuff like undocking my switch for inkay and spending a crap ton of time grinding white stripe basculin tick me off so much
Erm, actually, the history of unique evolution methods begins in Gen II, with Tyrogue needing its Attack higher than its Defense, or vice versa, or perfectly balanced (as all things should be) in order to evolve. This is an incredibly important detail to overlook. Disliking this video and unsubscribing.
I felt bad for anyone in Diamond & Pearl who raised a male Combee on their team... then looked it up.
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Even as kid on hindsight it made sense.
For some reason the momment i play pokemon i throw commonsense out of the window.
I wish there was drone evolutions. Yes i know i said commonsense but imagine a paladin type of shit (fakemon, seen it once and love that thing)
Salazle, game for kids😂
Happened to me with salandit in moon...
That was me 😭
These Pokémon are the reason i look up how to evolve every Pokémon
SAME
same
What about Tyrogue? Doesn’t it count? It needs a specific stat distribution to evolve into the one you want. When I was a kid I remember wanting an Hitmontop but just couldn’t get one, because I didn’t understand the mechanics and thought it was just luck based… 😅
Gen 8 really just made the player complete a Legend of Zelda dungeon to evolve your Mon.
LMAO I just finished Minish Cap so this is SO true
Alright so, the weird numbers. I'm taking these from Bulbapedia so that you don't have to look it up:
- For *Runerigus,* the number of 49 could be a reference to a Buddhist equivalent of purgatory between death and reincarnation, which lasts 49 days. Given that some Yamask are human spirits reborn as Pokemon, this makes a degree of sense.
- For *Basculegion,* 294 can be read as "nikushi", which is archaic Japanese for "hatred". Ghosts and hateful grudges usually go together.
I see these new convoluted evolution methods more as side quests you have to complete, with the reward for the quest being the evolution. The problem is that Gamefreak rarely gives a way to figure out these evolution methods. This isn't a new issue- like how is a kid supposed to figure out a Nidorina evolves with a moon stone.
Gamefreak can fix this in a few ways. First, have the information told to you by the NPC or the environment. For example, Galar route 6 houses ruins, and is also where Galarian Yamask can be found. Imagine if the ruins had a statue of a Runerigus, and there were inscriptions underneath that were the instructions on how to evolve Yamask. It's a natural way to let the player know about the evolution method and rewards the player for investigating the statue.
Next are actual side quests given to you by NPCs, mostly to obtain evolution items. Like imagine a scientist NPC asking you to help him research Porygon by leveling it up and using it in battle, and after completing the tasks he uses the research to create an upgrade to evolve porygon into porygon2. Or a miner npc who asks you to gather materials to create a protector to evolve rhydon into rhyperior. Then, these NPCs can give you more of the item if you want to evolve more of the pokemon, in exchange for money or items.
The most universal method would be a Legends Arceus style Pokedex, where you have to do tasks to fill out the dex instead of just catching the pokemon. After youve done enough research on that pokemon, the dex will just tell you how to evolve it.
Nah that's too much effort for small indie company😢
Milcery evolution you forgot to mention is it also depends on time of day. Rainbow alcremie can only be gotten at dusk when the sky is orange when you do the spin.
Palafin's name has PAL in the name. Your friend is your pal. Although I'm not a fan of the evolution method, the method actually makes sense
Ahhhh I didn't even think of that
It also has PA in its name so it's also your dad by that logic 😂
what about iirukaman, wheres the pal in that
@@TheReZisTLustpa - dad
lafin - laughing
You missed Tandemaus, who evolves without an evolution screen
I thought about doing an honorable mention section but yeah it was too similar to regular level up and pretty similar to Shedinjas as well so it didn't make the cut
@@FargusPhil What about Wurmple?
I was so thankful in ORAS that you can just find Feebas under the bridge on that route
istg malamar and runnerigus sound like mew under the truck and jirachi on the moon all over again but it's true somehow
I like the part with the spinning milcery lol
the xtransceiver in gen 5 was a huge help for obscure evolutions, since you could call the professor and get a hint in the right direction if you wanted to
I think these evolutions methods make the game more fun and interesting.
Heck yeah
Fun? More like inconvenience 😢
all of them but trade/multiplayer evolutions, i hate them with a passion - give me a link cable like Pokemon LA
The spare Pokéball was not a requirement until Diamond and Pearl.
Youre not cooking alcremie, youre whipping it 😏
HUH
@@FargusPhil maWHIP
You Whip it good.
Shawty that is sentient CAKE MIXTURE 💀
Galarian Yamask evolving into Runerigus through this weird evolution method is WHY I used it in my Pokemon Sword playthrough.
Top tier vid, would have thought you were one of the big poke tubers with that delivery and well executed editing
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
I got that damn dolphin in Scarlet all the way to the Champion fight and i only found out the way it evolves on a random tiktok video before i deleted the app, not to mention online i was avoiding for my first playthrough. Ut since i avoided npcs cause Tauros owner froze my game upon talking to him.
Tragedy strikes again
@@FargusPhil tis rough but at least echo the dolphin will forever rule the world
Don't worry, 4chan lost their mind trying to figure it out too and they had a limited look at the source code.
Getting shedinja for the first time as a child terrified me. I put it in the box thinking it was a glitch that would crash my game.
Gamefreak in Gen 8: location based evolutions are too complicated, lets just make them stones.
Also Gamereak in Gen 8: so here's how you evolve G-Yamask.....
As soon as Sun and Moon was announced, I avoided anything pokemon related until the game came out so I could play it blind and through fresh eyes. I had a crabrawler leveled into the 50s and it wouldn't evolve despite trying all the methods I could think of. I finally decide to look it up(while still covering up its evolution to not spoil it for myself) and saw that it had to be at Mt. Lanakila.
Location based evolutions weren't new, nor where they usually that difficult to figure out. But who would think you needed to bring a crab to a freakin' mountain? Especially a pokemon you can get pretty early on and the location is at the end of the game. Plus it's not like its evolution is a world beater and worth the wait(it has incredible attack but that's it), not to mention it's kind of hideous.
I’ll live and die by this belief: different does not equal good. Subverting expectations does not equal good, in and of itself.
My friend was determined to get every form of Alcremie in game…now he’s doing it irl.
Nice vid, man! You got another sub
THANK YOU
My first accidental evolution ever, as in I thought never to be able to get there as I didn't even knew it was possible. Was Leafeon. It's still my fave evoltuion as it was so, unique in Sun and Moon to have it. And man it did help me out in so many battles. I truly loved playing with it and I try to have it in every game since.
I think that Stone and Trade evolutions are fine alternatives to normal level up, i think there should even be a third odd evo method (there really should be an in game way to obtain trade evos without trqding, maybe a post game item). I really don't like these unique one way evos, it feels so strange to ether loos a specific areas or specific styles in later games
i remember having an Inkay untill the end of the x and y. after that i always google evolution methods for my party members in later games to make sure there wasn't anything stupid i had to do,
thanks for the video i really had fun watching it. love your work
Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed!
2:48 not having an acellgor isn’t the worst thing, eviolite Shelmet is the best X3
8:55 What is that website please.
Bulbapedia
I just wish there was an NPC who would give you lore-friendly tips on how to evolve any pokemon
I always wondered how much of the Pokédex may somebody complete with only in-game knowledge. Nobody explains the Runerigus evolution for example. Trading and evolution stones or items may happen with trial and error but those more obscure evolution methods...?
I get them wanting to do something like this but they should also add npc's that would give hints on how to evolve these specific pokemon so we don't need search them up
Nice video, new sub earned
Thanks for the sub!
Uh… you need a pal to evolve into Palafin
How does this only have 54 views?
Because it only been out for 4 hours?
@@maryannmcconnell1049 my point being that it's a well thought out and put together video, and I commented "how does this only have 54 views" as a way to compliment the creator, implying that it is such a good video that it should have more views despite it being very recent.
I appreciate it! On the come up haha
Isn‘t Pancham unique too? I remember being a bit confused in Gen6 before looking it up.
I almost put it in as an honorable mention since having a specific kind of mon on the team is very similar to how Mantyke evolves
My only gripe sbout odd or obscure methods is the absence of any in-game hint at their existence. With a number of the "trade with item" Evos, the item will at least include "beloved by a certain Pokémon" or a similarly worded phrase to get you thinking. Runerigus is the King of Unnecessarily Convoluted because: there's no real correlation between the method and the evolution; you are unlikely to stumble upon it accidentally; there's no hint at the method in-game, meaning the only way a person can feasibly learn of it is to use a third-party source.
Inkay's a bit of an annoying gimmick, but you can at least follow the logic behind it. And I would argue the same applies to Milcery. There is none, to my knowledge, explaining Runerigus (unless this method is a reference to some well-known Viking's in England trivium, which I'm not British enough to properly recognize).
surprised you didn’t mention annihilape
Totally valid, I didn’t include him cause Stantler and hisuian quilfish both evolve by using a move 20 times as well. Different moves but it’s similar enough so they didnt make the cut
@@FargusPhilHowever, Stantler and Hisuian Qwilfish have an extra layer of complexity: they have to use moves in a certain style. Stantler has to use Psyshield Bash in Agile style 20 times, and Hisuian Qwilfish has to use Barb Barrage in Strong style 20 times. Considering using a move in Agile or Strong style uses 2 PP, and each move only has 10 PP, that means using it five times, then healing a total of four times. Primeape only has to heal twice.
I understand that this is meant to make these evolutions possible only in Hisui, but that doesn't mean that it isn't annoying. Also, why did they do it for the Qwilfish? I get why they did it for Stantler. You don't want a Stantler in a modern day game to be able to evolve into Wyrdeer, but if you have a Hisuian Qwilfish, why can't the Qwilfish evolve anywhere it is? It's already a Hisuian Qwilfish.
@@greninjamariokartpokemonfan My memory isn't good enough to be sure of this, but did you lift this verbatim from MandJTV's video?
@@robertlupa8273 Almost verbatim from MandJTV.
You completely missed Melmetal and Zygarde, and arguably Phione maybe, since that one HAS to be breeded.
I don't mind some of these methods,but can they please introduce like a "trade stone" or something? It'd make getting and using the likes of Gengar,Alakazam and Machamp way easier and you get to use the one you originally caught instead of a traded one
That actually is an item! In legends arceus (I think) they introduced a Link Cable item that evolves trade Pokémon, it’s in scarlet and violet too I believe
how the hell did they figure out galarian Yanmask's evolution method in the first place?
I gave my Farfetched a leek to increase its critical hit rate and made it use false swipe.
Nice!
Too bad the leak is the Sword exclusive item as I remember 😢
What about Maushold?
They should just make sure an npc tells you how possibly cryptically or that its in the pokedex entry so you can play the game blind. Having to look stuff up is no fun and breaks immersion.
what about Ursaluna?
Imkay upside down evolution I actually tried out, it was amazing to do xD
2:40
Why is no one talking about that image 😭
Meltan? Not unique to Go, but it is to main series.
I would put in Ulsaluna on that list.
and hwat about the obscure evolution/variation methods?
People always talk like this was recent, my brother in christ this was around since gen 1 with trade evos. How were you supposed to figure out Runerigus without randomly stumbling across it? Same way you were supposed to figure out Gengar back in the day, you weren't.
The games were built with trading in mind. It can be reasonably stumbled upon and extended media also reveals the trade+item method. Only problem is it required a link cable so I was stuck with a Graveler.
Runerigus is just dumb from a gameplay peerspective. Seems more like a lore addition.
Except trade evolutions are actually implied in-game.
@@Dukstless Just so happening to find some random out-of-the-way NPC who says that thier Graveler evolved when traded is a lot different than just looking at Inkay and Malamar's designs, Inkay's dex entries and their signature move (Topsy-Turvy, before Grapploct got it anyway) and figuring out you need to do something with the Inkay being upside-down to evolve it
@@bIuecrimson I mean, how were you supposed to know to trade specifically Kadabra, Haunter, Graveler and Machoke to evolve them? If you had them on your team you wouldn't want to trade it, and they're not too rare so most people wouldn't want to get them unless they already knew. Sure, stuff like the anime can tell you about it, but they've also done that for stuff like Inkay before. NPC's mention it, but they're usually extremely inconspicuous ones you wouldn't think twice about. It gets even worse with item trade evos, because i don't think a single trainer in all of DP uses Rhyperior, so you'd likely get as far as finding the Protector (already pretty difficult) and having no clue you had to specifically give it to one Pokémon and trade it. Porygon-Z is the exception because the Dubious Disk is very clearly related to the Upgrade.
@@Blastosie_Offical It's a fucking RPG, what do you mean you don't talk to every NPC you find???
I thought he was guna talk about a leaf stone or summ
5:24 should've picked YELLOOOOOOOOWWWWW
They are "innovative" in all the wrong places...well, it's a lot easier than making an innovative game lol
I'm ok with crazy evolution methods, but I wish they were not legal for pvp, because of cooourse they will be hacked
I really hope game freak stops with the overly obtuse evolution methods. Stuff like undocking my switch for inkay and spending a crap ton of time grinding white stripe basculin tick me off so much
6:30 the random numbers probably have symbolic meaning in japan
oh good point
@@FargusPhilfor example some numbers give hint of ģmefreaķties to yakuza😂
Pokémon Is Awesome.
Totally agree!
8:34
I know he’s not pronouncing is “roo-NARE-ih-gis”
Erm, actually, the history of unique evolution methods begins in Gen II, with Tyrogue needing its Attack higher than its Defense, or vice versa, or perfectly balanced (as all things should be) in order to evolve.
This is an incredibly important detail to overlook. Disliking this video and unsubscribing.
I infinitely prefer these obscure, wtf ways to evolve pokemon than having to evolve pokemon through trading
Screw trading
Same here!
Yow good vid pls help me I am a small youtuber and I want to do a challenge to get all Laycanroc cards