@@ericnoble3475 especially these in particular, I remember a friends mom had a mint 340 Cuda with like 28K miles on it when I was in high school, late 90's, i don't remember what she sold it for but I remember her turning down 30K for it on several occasions
My dad was a travelling salesman in the 60's and 70's and drove strictly Mopar. He put so many miles on that he got a new car every year. One year he drove up in a Superbird. My jaw dropped and I asked (incredulously) if he really got this. Sadly, he didn't. The dealer just let him bring it home for the weekend. But our house was the coolest one on the block for that weekend.
Back when dealers would left you drive off with the car, go pick up the family, and see how they liked it. Often you could keep it overnight and for some customers, for the weekend.
I'm so happy to see that there is somebody on earth that possesses these two cars and wasn't stupid enough to modify the engines or do anything weird to them and has preserved them as they are
I have never even seen either of these cars in person so I am sooo jealous that he has multiple ones, not that I could afford to buy or restore one, so I guess it evens out.
@@highjix When I was a kid in the early 70's there was a yellow Daytona just like the one in this video that sat on a used car lot down the road from our house for well over a year that they couldn't sell, it's price continually dropped until they finally got rid of it. I remember seeing it covered in snow from my bedroom window and the wing on the back was the only way you could tell it from all the other snow covered cars, people go crazy about cars like this now but the fact is back in the day hardly anyone wanted them.
@@jcnpresser It got even worse for cars of that era further down the line, by the time I was in high school in the early 80's your average late 60's early 70's muscle type cars were going from $500 to $1500 depending on condition, now that doesn't include some late 60's COPO Camaro of course and by then the aero cars like one of these started to rise in price, but your run of the mill V8 powered Camaros and Mustang's and Polara's went for that kind of money, high school kids with after school jobs could buy them because by the early 80's no one wanted a 10 to 15 year old car that was a notorious gas guzzler, the general public didn't want something like that and the only people that cared about them were gear heads, and back then your average dentist or doctor weren't gear heads, they're the ones nowadays that are driving the prices of cars like that through the roof, but back then they didn't care about them, back in those days people with money considered something like that a bad investment.
No doubt Mopar went bonkers with winning and this was the pinnacle of hp style and performance. 1970 best year for American muscle. Mopar ruled. Great video
@@davidthayer6969 I didn't say they won more than anyone else. This was the car that brought petty back to Plymouth. It was the car that Bobby Isaac's drove over 200 mph. They were the most far out thing Detroit ever produced. 1970 was the best year for every muscle car made. LS6 450 hp 454 chevelles, 427 copo yenkos camaros, novas and chevelles, Baldwin motion cars, ,L88 Corvettes, stage 4 ram air GTOs, 440 six pack challengers, 426 hemi cudas, runners with ramcharger and air grabber pop up hoods ( most menacing deterrent for opposition on the street.) coolest item ever put on any muscle car. There were 455 GSX Buicks, 396/427 SS novas boss 429 mustangs. 428 cobra jet cyclones, AMC 390 scramblers Yeah. R/T charger 440and hemi coronets, super bees and chargers. Every car was at the peak performance, design and horsepower. 1970 was the best by far
@@held1823 I was agreeing with you, sarcasm doesn't come across well online sorry for the misunderstanding hah! I was more so referring to the other person not paying attention to win % etc.
I remember riding the school bus in 70/71 and they had three of these in the front row of the local dealership. Not sure whether they were Plymouth or Dodge but it seemed like they sat there for a few years before being sold. My dad would always say who the *%ll would buy that when we drove by in our station wagon. 😁😁
Haha yeah, easy to be clever in 2021, who could have imagined? Would easily choose to go back there and buy a few of them, long term storage and just wait cause today they would be worth a fortune
While they are collectible, aesthetically they are atrocious in design. Heavy, disproportionate, American junk design. Its not an appealing looking car I don’t know why people are into these, especially when there are plenty of other American muscle cars that look so much better
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism this is a comparison between a Charger Daytona and a Road Runner Super bird! They both are factory original. Not a Charger and a Road Runner. Next time know what you're talking about before trying to sound like it! Js
As an old hard case Chevy guy I really appreciate this video. I bought a 1970 super bee in 1971 drove it for 10 years then let it go for a family car. Sure miss it now, most likely never have another one because of the cost. Old Mopars buddy of mine told me one time that Chrysler didn't make cars to slice through the air they just beat it into submission. He was pretty much right. I love the old Mopars.
The vents over the wheel of the Daytona are functional. It bleeds off wind turbulence out of the wheel well reducing drag at high speeds. Alot of modern super cars actually have this design on their track focused cars. You can tell the Daytona was built by engineers and the Super bird was built by designers. The Daytona is by far the model I'd rather have if I could pick 1.
From what Ive heard, the vents are to allow more clearance for the wheels. If you didnt race or intend to race the car there is no hole, but the vent is still installed.
Between the two, I go for the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird. Glad you are keeping the memory and legacy of these cars. My uncle up in Indianapolis who back then worked for Chrysler 30th Street and retired from the Foundry on Tibbs Ave had Dodge Chargers every year in the late 60's and early 70's. I remember the '70 real well back then when my little fingers got caught between the door and the door frame by the latch from the outside when it closed unexpectedly. It was quite painful I remember.
I was born in '97 and I saw a Plymouth superbird rolling down the interstate a couple months ago in Austin, TX. I've seen plenty of nice cars, Porsche 911's , Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, and even Bugatti's; but this car was the one and only Plymouth I've ever seen in my life and I was late to work because I watched it ten miles past my exit and had to loop back. Beautiful car for sure!
Nice vid! The rear end of the Daytona does it for me. Next time, maybe give us a shot of those wing supports in the trunk and you never did show us the rear window "plug".
I looked at those and decided they were too long and flashy, insurance was high, bought a 1970 Barracuda AAR 340 for $6800 in 1970. Was tempted to buy a hemi road runner. Wish I had kept it. Those were the days.
Owned a 70 roadrunner 440 pistol grip 4 spd. 70 challenger 383 auto, 70 amx 390 4spd. 70 chevelle 375hp 4spd all at different times. Believe it or not challenger was fastest at 154 mph, while amx was quickest to about 90. Now that I'm old I've got a little black 67 camaro that pulls a sub 11 qtr mile and my grandsons don't yet appreciate!
@@kingboagart899 I'm about to start working on cars myself. Im looking at getting 83 3rd gen Camaro to start working on. I could get a 2019 1SS, but I love the older muscle man.
This is literally the first time I´ve had the experience of the explanation of the differences of the two cars simultaneous with seeing them side-by-side. In gratitude of your effort, I´ll give you a piece of trivia that very few know. Most think _Superbird_ was a model name when in fact it was an acronym: *SUPERBIRD: Scaled Up Performance Ensures Roadrunner´s **_Beep-beep_** Is Really **_Deep-deep_* _(smile!)_
Having driven my buddy’s Super Bird with a 440 six pack and 4 speed, at high speed, it was practically glued to the road. Hit a bump and the down force slammed you back down. Absolute joy to drive when we would go Porsche hunting on the freeways of San Jose.
@Peter Angles 😂 no Camry, an Acura MDX, but would love a Subaru or a Mazda Miata with a standard tranny to race through the Santa Cruz mountains. As for the Superbird, at speed on the freeways, the aerodynamics kicked in by pushing it down. Yes, on mountain roads it sucked, and the brakes on cars back then were garbage after a few hard slow downs. But FUN to drive.
Well if I had to choose I'm going with the Daytona. When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Covington Ky and the was a orange Daytona parked down the street from her home I don't think there was a corner on that car that wasn't dented. I always wondered what happened to it I hope someone saved it.
Pretty sure that ended up in possession of a family friend who is deceased now. he used to have pictures of one beat to hell he restored and sold it sometime in the 90s if it’s the same one . If I can get pics I’ll post one who knows.
sorry, I am a roadrunner fan so for me I would want the superbird with the roadrunner on the wing :D now that I think about it, didn't the superbirds have the roadrunnner carton character horn?
As a Chevy guy, it’s great to learn this. Wing cars, mopars have always been more rare. The prices for any classic have gone crazy in the past years! Nice to see original type cars, not some over the top, modified restomod. I appreciate the modified cars and the work, but sometimes it’s just to much. Stock is just plain cool!
Good lord man,those are nice,my best friend has a Road Runner convertible thats been in storage for decades awaiting restoration,hopefully one day he will get around to it.
They were just unusual and a little to far ahead of their time It’s like Black Sabbath in 1969 creating heavy metal before guitar shredding was even a thing At a time where fast was medium speed and muscle cars where still growing
I had a 69 Buick GS with a 400 CI "slap stick" automatic transmission. It would have embarrassed either of these posers. That goofy spoiler served absolutely no purpose below 180 mph, and that nose cone was just an add on to allow for retractable headlights, that proved to be a nightmare for those stupid enough to buy either of those cars. Constant maintenance onnnthe lights and overheating issues. Most of the people I ran with in those days thought Mopar was a joke, except the Plymouth Challenger, it was an awesome design.
Thank you for your time. It's guys like you and Leno preserving history that keep us informed! I'd question you to death if I ever met you about this and that but it's out of appreciation. Take care
Thanks, I always wondered what the differences were past the obvious vinyl and wing. They're so rare it's hard to find both parked next to each other. I suspect the fender holes on the Dodge are to reduce air pressure in the wheel well which lowers turbulence and helps stability.
I just found your RUclips channel and this video had me smiling all the way through. Thank you so very much for all the information. Sir, there are so many of us out here that are beholding to collector's like yourself, if it weren't for you these awesome automobiles wouldn't exist. Sir, thank you very much........ needless to say I subbed immediately.
It's a very informative video, with some information I didn't know before. The only thing that I take issue with is the Superbird vinyl top question. A vinyl top isn't able to hide rough, uneven or bad bodywork. It will show right under the vinyl. I've read in various older car magazines that the vinyl roof was used for aerodynamic reasons. This is why you actually saw Superbirds with vinyl roofs at NASCAR. The theory at the time was it would improve laminar airflow, similar to how the dimpled surface of a golf ball does. Of course, later testing showed that it made no difference whatsoever. The amount of time to properly apply a vinyl roof would be roughly the same as that to fill the seams on a plug. Some articles support this and others don't, which only added to the confusion.
Hello Chris, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
My dad bought a 440 pistol grip 4spd bench seat SuperBird back in 1983. Restored it and showed it for many years. Sold it back in 1997 for 20Gs. I heard the story for many years on how much their worth day, till he just passed. The fender scoops were there for tire clearance for NasCar racing. We still have have a mint 1969 340 Dart with only 34,000 miles. Best of times.
Just watched this in June '22. These cars have been my grail of grails since I was a teen ... maybe even before. There was always one parked in the 500 block of Vickroy Ave in the Ferndale section of Johnstown, PA in the 1970s. It stood out like no other car on the block!!! I loved that car! I later met a kid in HS who's dream car was also the Superbird, and MoPars in general. I learned as much as I could about the Superbird and Daytona through books, magazines and word of mouth. Now all it takes is a good hour on Google to learn what took me years. Anyways. Glad to see these beauties being restored and cherished.
Very Cool. I had to watch this after seeing the Bonneville 71 short film. Really neat to see the similarities and differences between these 2 beautiful cars. Thank you for sharing.
The superbird in this video is my exact dream car. First heard of the car when I watched Pixar cars as a kid and fell in love with the design. This was a great informational video sir, greetings from Germany!
I grew up in Greenwood, Indiana and first saw one of these new in White land, Indiana. I eventually owned a '69 Charger but never a Wing car... Unbelievable. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for presenting the cars and talking about their differences. They are all nice. I grew up in Milwaukee, WI. I was 10 years old in 1971 and used to see these cars on the road back then. A guy that lived down the street had a yellow Superbird and I always enjoyed seeing the car. Fortunately I only saw the winged cars being driven in summer.
I learned few new things. I always thought the vinyl tops, rear ends, gas fill locations and side front markers was the only difference. The rest what you said I had know ideal. Thanks teaching me new difference on when I look to get 1 in the future.
Great video, sir. Did I read somewhere that the wing difference on the bird was for trunk lid clearance? I'm sorry but that music at the end covering up the hemi sound was appalling. Sorry. I remember in 1970 I was in 2nd grade in Laredo, TX. and an orange bird would pick up one of the other students, there.
The height of the wings has nothing to do with trunk clearance (just ended up working in addition to height of the wing ) like many people think. It actually was put up that high above the roof because that was the most optimal place for the wing to create down force at high speeds. The vents on top of the Daytonas fenders are actually meant to channel negative air pressure in the wheel wells outward so you don’t get front end lift.
@@farewell_to_normalcy9352 Excellent! I smelled a rat about this guy when he called the hemi Daytona an automatic four speed!! In one of his other cartoon/rich guy/keystone cops videos. Did you see that one? How about, in this video when he practically threw up, coughing, into his hand! I almost threw up too, because it's super gross 😝 and you know that's how he acts in real life! I hope he checks the blinker fluid on his #'s matching muffler bearings! Do you think he knows that a metric crescent wrench works on American bolts, also? Ahahahahah 🤣
@@mrkemblegilstrap and the daytona is a charger R/T ? nooooo it is not , it is a 500 . guy might have a few dollars to throw round but i'll race my Porsche against him and his daytona charger title for title any day
From what I've read in the past there were no wing adjustments able to be made on the DC500 wing, only on the RRSB, the noses were shaped differently as were the rear wings and the RRSB used 1970 Dodge Coronet fenders. The top of the fenders did have holes or a hole to release air pressure that would otherwise push the front end up under high speed. The trunk hinges had blocks so that they wouldn't open fully and bump the horizontal portion of the wing. I'm certain that there were a number of other special modifications under the front nose cone and other areas and the information is out there in older muscle car articles that I remember that I've read and that might still be in my possession in storage.
Dad had a 70 or 72 Fury and it had a 440cid. The engine bay made the 440 look tiny. A school bus fell on top of it and car roof dented very little while the kids were evacuating from bus. It was a tank to say the least.
Wow... tha k you for this video. Always loved the charger....until the newer body styles anyway and I've been a car guy for 35 years and love seeing the differences between both of these beautiful beast!!!! Keep up the good work
The wing angle was something I was always curious about when both vehicles were running in NASCAR, as I'd always study the print photos of them side-by-side on the speedways, where I'd do my best to discern the differences between the body-styling of both vehicles. The front end was easy to tell apart, but the rear wing always had me puzzled; probably due to the paint and decals on the vehicles distorting the looks of the bodylines.
Gorgeous cars , I've always loved these cars , unfortunitly I am not a millionaire so my dreams of ever owning one will never happen , but I do love seeing them .
Excellent. I've owned 4 (6 MOPARs. counting a 1968 Coronet station wagon with a 383 and an Aspen RT). 1968 Charger RT 440x4 bbl, a 1969 440x4 GTX, a 1970 440x4 Challenger RT/SE and a 1972 Challenger 340x4 RT. All having TorqueFlites. A friend and I put a HEMI in a 1968 Dodge Van, which we drove to high school and he bought a 1966 HEMI Charger , yellow automatic from the original owner for $850 in 1975, which he later sold to Rick Finch, the bass player for KC and the Sunshine Band. I was lucky enough to grow up when the best muscle cars were made. Which includes a 1962 Ford Galaxy with a 406 3x2 bbl with a four speed (my next door neighbor) and across the street a 1962 Impala with a 409 four speed. 1/2 block away, a husband and wife with a 1962 Galaxy 406 and a 1963 Galaxy 427. Both red with white interior. And it goes on... Great Life
Hello Tim, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
Also. Check the center ridge line of the hood. The Super Bird goes all the way down the hood and extended bumper. The Daytona's line stops with the hood.
A yellow 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona with a black wing is my all-time, gotta-have-it, can't-live-without-it, would-do-anything-to-get-it, favorite dream car. Thanks to David Spade and his creation of Joe Dirt.
Learned something today. Thanks for posting this video. I had the same problems with the license plate with my Barracuda. Simple solution: Cut a piece of wood, varnish optional, a couple pieces of foam at each end to protect the paint and you have a prop for your license plate. Much easier to gas up. Best Regards - Mike
I just wanna find a 70’s charger, clean it up really well and convert it to a Daytona, and cherish it. My absolute dream car and I hate on how rare and expensive they are to get one
Here's a fun (or not so fun) fact for you, the Daytona in the movie Joe Dirt was a real Daytona and not a conversion as most people assume, the scene where the rear wing gets ripped off was a wooden mockup that was used for that scene only, the car is an actual collector grade Daytona that was "uglied up" by the Hollywood crew with special paint that'll wash off that gave it that weathered rust bucket look, about 6 years ago it was for sale, the owner left it in the condition it was for the movie hoping it would sell for more than a regular Daytona having it's movie tie in, it was listed with all the original parts to convert it back over from it's movie mods.
@@trentwatts3997 Yea it's a hysterical movie, and when I read about the car being for sale and saw pictures of it before the Hollywood people worked it over I couldn't believe it was a real Daytona, I expected it to be a mock up based on a regular Charger, as I recall it's actually that Plum Crazy color underneath the temporary paint job, if you watch the movie you can see a shot of him in the car at the booth where the security guard gives him a hard time, if you pause and look past him at the inside of the passenger door you can see purple (if I remember correctly) overspray on the door as would be expected from a factory paint job and that piece of translucent plastic that's under the door panel which was removed as part of uglying it up for the movie.
Great comparison of two absolutely classic Mopars. That restored Plymouth was nice. I'm old enough to remember when these sat on dealers lots because nobody wanted them. I only saw one on the road back in the day while in the service. It was a Superbird and it stuck out like a sore thumb at a busy 4 way intersection. A family relative has a nice car collection and has a yellow Superbird. I loved those Roadrunners and foolishly passed on a 70 Roadrunner that was still on the lot in 71. No one wanted it because it was yellow. Boy....if we could only turn back the clock.
Love the great info, knew a older gent as a kid in new berlin wi. That was lucky enough to have a daytona and superbird in nice condition, he was kind enough to talk of these cars and was the president of the superbird club of america.
4:35 it's purely decorative. Plymouth wanted the air to stay in the wheel well to increase pressure on the tires, meanwhile Dodge wanted to ventilate that air to reduce drag. So Chrysler gave what dodge wanted, to keep both cars looking similar, Plymouth had to use it too.
When the wheels are turning, they act like an air compressor. They squish the air to the ground and this increases the pressure inside the wheel well, particularly on the front of it. This causes 3 main things: 1st- more pressure on top of the tire, which increases friction. 2nd- increases drag by having air spilling over the sides, thus causing a wake area that disturbs air flow on the sides. 3rd: the increase pressure in the wheel well disencourages fresh air to enter in it, thus decreasing brake cooling. This can be observed in newer cars with different engineering solutions, like air intakes in there for 80's and 90's cars (more pressure = more oxigen = more power, more like snapier throttle response) and air curtains on 2021+ cars, that has the mission of reducing tire wake.
Wow 😍 what a video. This is good stuff. Dang I could listen to this guy a while. This is detailed. This rocks! 😎👍 Thank you for putting this out there.
I had a beat up Daytona in high school in the late 1970's. It was a 440 4 speed car, but the transmission had been swapped for an automatic, though it still had the Dana 60 rear. The automatic shifter was a Mr. Gasket one that looked like a manual transmission shifter and fit the shifter opening perfectly. The engine was stock, except for headers. The loose clutch pedal was still installed in the car.
Just the fact that you have one of each is pretty epic. My all time fav Muscle car is the Superbird. Love the color and love that you have the Roadrunner decal. Awesome video. very instructive. I actually see a small model of the car through the back windshield. pretty girls riding the wings. Bonuses for having the car to begin with.
Great job! I remember a guy in Knoxville IL or around the Galesburg IL area, that had 6 or 7 of these cars in his yard back in the late 70s. I think he only had 1 or 2 Daytona's and the others were Superbirds. I always wanted1 of the Daytona's he had, it was orange and had a set of N50 15s on a set of 10 inch wide aluminum slots on the back and some 15x8 slots on the front all Goodyear Eagle white letter tires. At age 16 back then it was one of my dream cars! Then in my mid 20s I got to actually touch the Kings number 3 Daytona for 1969. At that time it belonged to a friend of mine, Brian Who lived in Ogden KS. Fun fact, it was white with blue numbers on the doors. Brian also owned a couple Sox and Martin cars. The 71 Cuda, and the 73 Duster! Again thanks for the video!
Nice video. My friend had an Orange Superbird, a 70 irrc. It was the greatest car to go cruising in, everyone stared at you. My made lots of cash with it, he never lost a race. The guys with really fast cars were smart enough not to risk losing to him.
In the small Canadian city where I lived I can only remember seeing one legit Plymouth Superbird on the road in the early 70s. The Dodge Daytona I've never seen in my life as a licensed vehicle on a Canadian roadway. Of course the Superbird had a stratospheric cool factor, yet most of my friends aspired to grow-up and own a Barracuda, Camaro, Corvette or Super Bee. The Superbird and Daytona Charger seemed mythical and unattainable back-in-the-day.
Ha! Same. I remember the cook at the pizza joint I'd frequent with friends had a Superbird. He had it parked out front all the time. This was out in St.Albert, Alberta around 88 - 89. White with a lot of rust unfortunately. Still, we used to drool over that car as much as the pizza.
@@danbaumann8273 Righteous recollection my Canadian brother. Those cars seemed unattainable back-in-the-day. Yet, they gave us all the belief anything was possible in our young lives. A better time in this country.
@@johnpatterson4272 Yeah it was very cool. As rare as hens teeth. I don't think Ive ever seen another one around there. Somehow recall one or two at car shows but that's about it. We did though have a few beautiful muscle cars around that town. I remember the two 67 Beaumont SD's and the 66 Chevelle SS I owned for a short spell. Sure wish I still had her. And yeah, I have to largely agree with you about that last bit too my friend. Here's hoping. Cheers. 🍻 🇨🇦
I saw a very reputable show on the wing cars and they stated that the fender vents were there for a hidden purpose (at the time). When NASCAR officials asked about the bumps, they were told that they were for tire clearance when they were actually meant to release trapped air in the fenders and engine bay. No one knew about that at that time so they didn't want to give away their advantage. Makes sense.
I’m 12 and some people might scoff and say someone as young as me who wasn’t around when these cars were made but I do love both these cars. Amazing examples.
My dream, my father had a 59 sports fury with a 413 cross ram wedge. Beautiful car looked like a rocket with the tail light wings. I don't think the engine was original but it would fly. I had a 1970 Duster 340 4 speed , was young and stupid and traded it for a 71 Camaro it wasn't stock at all, it had a 427 that my dad rebuilt and I lost my license drag racing. Thank you for sharing great video and very informative !!!!!
@@carmineredd1198 " The results of the various aero treatments were duly noted in internal memos drafted at Chrysler-memos that would not come to light until many years after these cars were retired. A "long" nose decreased drag by 9.5 percent, a "short" nose decreased drag by 12.5 percent. "Exhausters" mounted over the front tires reduced drag by a further three percent." www.yahoo.com/news/cheaty-scoops-really-made-dodge-170923017.html
I’m glad somebody with the ability and desire to preserve these cars has them
Expensive taste them mopars aint cheap
@@ericnoble3475 especially these in particular, I remember a friends mom had a mint 340 Cuda with like 28K miles on it when I was in high school, late 90's, i don't remember what she sold it for but I remember her turning down 30K for it on several occasions
Sad thing is that there were conversion kits back then to turn them back into chargers
@@ericnoble3475 very true lad
They don't deserve to be preserve they deserve to get raced.
My dad was a travelling salesman in the 60's and 70's and drove strictly Mopar. He put so many miles on that he got a new car every year. One year he drove up in a Superbird. My jaw dropped and I asked (incredulously) if he really got this. Sadly, he didn't. The dealer just let him bring it home for the weekend. But our house was the coolest one on the block for that weekend.
Back when dealers would left you drive off with the car, go pick up the family, and see how they liked it. Often you could keep it overnight and for some customers, for the weekend.
@@tommissouri4871 it's known as the "puppy dog close".
Your father was a saint.
@@tommissouri4871They couldn't give away Superbirds, lol.
@@deeremeyer1749right it is such that some roadrunners are actually disguised superbirds (with nose/spoiler delete)
The proper music would have been the sound of that hemi talking...
No doubt.
440
@@held1823 lol he said they are both 440 engines bone
@@waynewilliams5802 how do you manage to browse the internet when you're this blind
Prb used music because all u would hear is the drone props. But I agree
I'm so happy to see that there is somebody on earth that possesses these two cars and wasn't stupid enough to modify the engines or do anything weird to them and has preserved them as they are
I have never even seen either of these cars in person so I am sooo jealous that he has multiple ones, not that I could afford to buy or restore one, so I guess it evens out.
@@highjix
When I was a kid in the early 70's there was a yellow Daytona just like the one in this video that sat on a used car lot down the road from our house for well over a year that they couldn't sell, it's price continually dropped until they finally got rid of it.
I remember seeing it covered in snow from my bedroom window and the wing on the back was the only way you could tell it from all the other snow covered cars, people go crazy about cars like this now but the fact is back in the day hardly anyone wanted them.
@@dukecraig2402 yep pretty much,they were built to win on the speedways on Sunday and to sell cars on Monday’s.
@@jcnpresser
It got even worse for cars of that era further down the line, by the time I was in high school in the early 80's your average late 60's early 70's muscle type cars were going from $500 to $1500 depending on condition, now that doesn't include some late 60's COPO Camaro of course and by then the aero cars like one of these started to rise in price, but your run of the mill V8 powered Camaros and Mustang's and Polara's went for that kind of money, high school kids with after school jobs could buy them because by the early 80's no one wanted a 10 to 15 year old car that was a notorious gas guzzler, the general public didn't want something like that and the only people that cared about them were gear heads, and back then your average dentist or doctor weren't gear heads, they're the ones nowadays that are driving the prices of cars like that through the roof, but back then they didn't care about them, back in those days people with money considered something like that a bad investment.
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This is the video I've always wanted someone to make. Nicely done, can't wait to see more!
Thanks Duston! More to come soon. Bob
When it comes to explaining differences on collector cars, THIS is how all the videos should be done! no BS just facts
No doubt Mopar went bonkers with winning and this was the pinnacle of hp style and performance. 1970 best year for American muscle. Mopar ruled. Great video
well no, actually they did not, the winged cars only won 12 nascar races in 1970 compared to 26 for their standard Road Runners and Chargers.
@@davidthayer6969 I didn't say they won more than anyone else. This was the car that brought petty back to Plymouth. It was the car that Bobby Isaac's drove over 200 mph. They were the most far out thing Detroit ever produced. 1970 was the best year for every muscle car made. LS6 450 hp 454 chevelles, 427 copo yenkos camaros, novas and chevelles, Baldwin motion cars, ,L88 Corvettes, stage 4 ram air GTOs, 440 six pack challengers, 426 hemi cudas, runners with ramcharger and air grabber pop up hoods ( most menacing deterrent for opposition on the street.) coolest item ever put on any muscle car. There were 455 GSX Buicks, 396/427 SS novas boss 429 mustangs. 428 cobra jet cyclones, AMC 390 scramblers Yeah. R/T charger 440and hemi coronets, super bees and chargers. Every car was at the peak performance, design and horsepower. 1970 was the best by far
@@held1823 exactly it's almost like they got banned from racing or something
@@held1823 I was agreeing with you, sarcasm doesn't come across well online sorry for the misunderstanding hah! I was more so referring to the other person not paying attention to win % etc.
@@held1823 ah that's fair haha for the record I enjoyed it lol
I remember riding the school bus in 70/71 and they had three of these in the front row of the local dealership. Not sure whether they were Plymouth or Dodge but it seemed like they sat there for a few years before being sold. My dad would always say who the *%ll would buy that when we drove by in our station wagon. 😁😁
Haha yeah, easy to be clever in 2021, who could have imagined? Would easily choose to go back there and buy a few of them, long term storage and just wait cause today they would be worth a fortune
I have MY 71 RR that I bought as first car Dad said no to the Daytona in 73 because he thought it was ugly!
Yeh, my first thought was designed by a 4 year old on the kitchen table with a box of crayons!
While they are collectible, aesthetically they are atrocious in design. Heavy, disproportionate, American junk design. Its not an appealing looking car I don’t know why people are into these, especially when there are plenty of other American muscle cars that look so much better
I agree with your dad!
Differences: all exterior body panels.
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 2 totally different cars... 69 Daytona is a charger.... 70 superbird is a roadrunner... body panels are different
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism this is a comparison between a Charger Daytona and a Road Runner Super bird! They both are factory original. Not a Charger and a Road Runner. Next time know what you're talking about before trying to sound like it! Js
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Listen to the very first statement in the video again.
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism did you watch the god damn video?
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 'Differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Daytona Charger', the title of the video
As an old hard case Chevy guy I really appreciate this video. I bought a 1970 super bee in 1971 drove it for 10 years then let it go for a family car. Sure miss it now, most likely never have another one because of the cost. Old Mopars buddy of mine told me one time that Chrysler didn't make cars to slice through the air they just beat it into submission. He was pretty much right. I love the old Mopars.
Chevy = 💩💩💩💩 😝
lmaoo beat into submission I gotta use that when talking about the F4 phantom
The vents over the wheel of the Daytona are functional. It bleeds off wind turbulence out of the wheel well reducing drag at high speeds. Alot of modern super cars actually have this design on their track focused cars. You can tell the Daytona was built by engineers and the Super bird was built by designers. The Daytona is by far the model I'd rather have if I could pick 1.
Also, as it bleeds off air it aids in brake cooling.
Take Care All
one example is the AMG project one in "race mode" but theirs are just flaps that fold down but same concept
From what Ive heard, the vents are to allow more clearance for the wheels. If you didnt race or intend to race the car there is no hole, but the vent is still installed.
@@dezznutz3743 they allow more clearance but there mainly for reducing drag.
@grey5135, those front fender bumps/scoops were for tire clearance and not for heat venting
My dad bought a 69' 440 cuda' it was one of 500 made. He also had a 66' Charge 383. Both of these cars are beautiful!!! Congratulations
Between the two, I go for the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird. Glad you are keeping the memory and legacy of these cars. My uncle up in Indianapolis who back then worked for Chrysler 30th Street and retired from the Foundry on Tibbs Ave had Dodge Chargers every year in the late 60's and early 70's. I remember the '70 real well back then when my little fingers got caught between the door and the door frame by the latch from the outside when it closed unexpectedly. It was quite painful I remember.
I was born in '97 and I saw a Plymouth superbird rolling down the interstate a couple months ago in Austin, TX. I've seen plenty of nice cars, Porsche 911's , Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, and even Bugatti's; but this car was the one and only Plymouth I've ever seen in my life and I was late to work because I watched it ten miles past my exit and had to loop back. Beautiful car for sure!
Two of my biggest dream cars side by side. Thanks for both the knowledge and giving us such an in-depth and close-up look at such iconic cars!
Appreciate it Tripp, and your screenname is a good number!
Thank you for taking time to go over some of the differences between the two Bad Boys, Picture driving on the Daytona Beach with the original..
Nice vid! The rear end of the Daytona does it for me.
Next time, maybe give us a shot of those wing supports in the trunk and you never did show us the rear window "plug".
You are 100% correct Scott-we need to show that plug and those braces, and we will, promise. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Bob
I looked at those and decided they were too long and flashy, insurance was high, bought a 1970 Barracuda AAR 340 for $6800 in 1970. Was tempted to buy a hemi road runner. Wish I had kept it. Those were the days.
Those were great times to be alive.
Those were the days indeed. I have a couple #s 340 cars, but no sixpac
Thats roughly 50k in today's money. Thats crazy man.
Owned a 70 roadrunner 440 pistol grip 4 spd. 70 challenger 383 auto, 70 amx 390 4spd. 70 chevelle 375hp 4spd all at different times. Believe it or not challenger was fastest at 154 mph, while amx was quickest to about 90. Now that I'm old I've got a little black 67 camaro that pulls a sub 11 qtr mile and my grandsons don't yet appreciate!
@@kingboagart899 I'm about to start working on cars myself. Im looking at getting 83 3rd gen Camaro to start working on. I could get a 2019 1SS, but I love the older muscle man.
I always wanted one of these cars. This video changed my mind. Not trying to be snarky, I just wanted to thank you for quality content. Seriously.
"We are, same same, but Differeeeentt... but STILL same"
-james Franco
Hahahaha
That movie cracks me up lol
Anyway, they are diffrent
thanks for all the info on both of these awesome Mopar's, glad that you got the red one running, cheers.
This is literally the first time I´ve had the experience of the explanation of the differences of the two cars simultaneous with seeing them side-by-side.
In gratitude of your effort, I´ll give you a piece of trivia that very few know. Most think _Superbird_ was a model name when in fact it was an acronym:
*SUPERBIRD: Scaled Up Performance Ensures Roadrunner´s **_Beep-beep_** Is Really **_Deep-deep_*
_(smile!)_
Having driven my buddy’s Super Bird with a 440 six pack and 4 speed, at high speed, it was practically glued to the road. Hit a bump and the down force slammed you back down. Absolute joy to drive when we would go Porsche hunting on the freeways of San Jose.
@Peter Angles 😂 no Camry, an Acura MDX, but would love a Subaru or a Mazda Miata with a standard tranny to race through the Santa Cruz mountains. As for the Superbird, at speed on the freeways, the aerodynamics kicked in by pushing it down. Yes, on mountain roads it sucked, and the brakes on cars back then were garbage after a few hard slow downs. But FUN to drive.
Well if I had to choose I'm going with the Daytona. When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Covington Ky and the was a orange Daytona parked down the street from her home I don't think there was a corner on that car that wasn't dented. I always wondered what happened to it I hope someone saved it.
Elkton Ky here !!!
I loved Covington i also lived in Florence for awhile....ive lived every where snd some the best times in kentucky
99% sure that car is still kicking. There's an orange Daytona that shows up to Cincinnati Cars and Coffee sometimes.
Pretty sure that ended up in possession of a family friend who is deceased now. he used to have pictures of one beat to hell he restored and sold it sometime in the 90s if it’s the same one . If I can get pics I’ll post one who knows.
sorry, I am a roadrunner fan so for me I would want the superbird with the roadrunner on the wing :D
now that I think about it, didn't the superbirds have the roadrunnner carton character horn?
As a Chevy guy, it’s great to learn this. Wing cars, mopars have always been more rare. The prices for any classic have gone crazy in the past years! Nice to see original type cars, not some over the top, modified restomod. I appreciate the modified cars and the work, but sometimes it’s just to much. Stock is just plain cool!
Good lord man,those are nice,my best friend has a Road Runner convertible thats been in storage for decades awaiting restoration,hopefully one day he will get around to it.
These 2 cars are so awesome. I never know which one I like more, the Daytona or the Superbird. Good video explaining the difference between the cars.
It's wonderful to listen to a man talking about his honest passion. He's glad with his two birds and he shares it. Good man in my book!
Folk legend: Richard petty said he wouldn’t drive a super bird unless the wing was 4 inches further forward.
I noticed that!
The orange car looks very clean nice thank great job on the voice over an talking....well done....
I'm 70 years old, I remember back in the day we all laugh at those loads, even Dodge & Plymouth guys did
I had a 69Mach1 428cj back then
I am embarrassed to say they were so weird back then they were just too crazy!. Thanks Gary
Fastest production cars in the World in 1969-71. That’s not weird.
They were just unusual and a little to far ahead of their time
It’s like Black Sabbath in 1969 creating heavy metal before guitar shredding was even a thing At a time where fast was medium speed and muscle cars where still growing
I had a 69 Buick GS with a 400 CI "slap stick" automatic transmission. It would have embarrassed either of these posers. That goofy spoiler served absolutely no purpose below 180 mph, and that nose cone was just an add on to allow for retractable headlights, that proved to be a nightmare for those stupid enough to buy either of those cars. Constant maintenance onnnthe lights and overheating issues. Most of the people I ran with in those days thought Mopar was a joke, except the Plymouth Challenger, it was an awesome design.
The rest of us laughed at you on race day. Maybe you shouldn't include what car you had when attempting to down a Mopar. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Thank you for your time. It's guys like you and Leno preserving history that keep us informed! I'd question you to death if I ever met you about this and that but it's out of appreciation. Take care
Thanks Eric!
Thanks, I always wondered what the differences were past the obvious vinyl and wing. They're so rare it's hard to find both parked next to each other. I suspect the fender holes on the Dodge are to reduce air pressure in the wheel well which lowers turbulence and helps stability.
Its for clearance so the tires wouldnt rub.
I just found your RUclips channel and this video had me smiling all the way through. Thank you so very much for all the information. Sir, there are so many of us out here that are beholding to collector's like yourself, if it weren't for you these awesome automobiles wouldn't exist. Sir, thank you very much........ needless to say I subbed immediately.
I've read dealers as well as buyers pulled those extended nose pieces and cut-off or removed the wing/spoiler because they couldn't sell them.
Thanks from a superbird owner of 42 years.
It's a very informative video, with some information I didn't know before. The only thing that I take issue with is the Superbird vinyl top question. A vinyl top isn't able to hide rough, uneven or bad bodywork. It will show right under the vinyl. I've read in various older car magazines that the vinyl roof was used for aerodynamic reasons. This is why you actually saw Superbirds with vinyl roofs at NASCAR. The theory at the time was it would improve laminar airflow, similar to how the dimpled surface of a golf ball does. Of course, later testing showed that it made no difference whatsoever. The amount of time to properly apply a vinyl roof would be roughly the same as that to fill the seams on a plug. Some articles support this and others don't, which only added to the confusion.
Hello Chris, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
I really enjoyed hearing and seeing the differences between the two cars. I especially liked the drone view of the orange Daytona.
My dad bought a 440 pistol grip 4spd bench seat SuperBird back in 1983. Restored it and showed it for many years. Sold it back in 1997 for 20Gs. I heard the story for many years on how much their worth day, till he just passed. The fender scoops were there for tire clearance for NasCar racing. We still have have a mint 1969 340 Dart with only 34,000 miles. Best of times.
That red lawnmower cuts the grass pretty good . The yard looks great !!
Thank you, I was always fascinated by these cars but didn't know the differences all too well.
Just watched this in June '22. These cars have been my grail of grails since I was a teen ... maybe even before. There was always one parked in the 500 block of Vickroy Ave in the Ferndale section of Johnstown, PA in the 1970s. It stood out like no other car on the block!!! I loved that car! I later met a kid in HS who's dream car was also the Superbird, and MoPars in general. I learned as much as I could about the Superbird and Daytona through books, magazines and word of mouth. Now all it takes is a good hour on Google to learn what took me years. Anyways. Glad to see these beauties being restored and cherished.
what a great overview... great camera angles show at the end with the holy grail ....
Very Cool. I had to watch this after seeing the Bonneville 71 short film. Really neat to see the similarities and differences between these 2 beautiful cars. Thank you for sharing.
you are the luckiest man in the planet!! They are my dream cars!!!I'm beyond happy they are in great HANDS! Thank you for preservation of them
The superbird in this video is my exact dream car. First heard of the car when I watched Pixar cars as a kid and fell in love with the design. This was a great informational video sir, greetings from Germany!
Thanks Ox. we will have a future video on our Petty Superbird (the blue one of course), just like the King in cars.
I grew up in Greenwood, Indiana and first saw one of these new in White land, Indiana.
I eventually owned a '69 Charger but never a Wing car...
Unbelievable.
Thank you for sharing.
Finally, quality internet content
Thank you for presenting the cars and talking about their differences. They are all nice. I grew up in Milwaukee, WI. I was 10 years old in 1971 and used to see these cars on the road back then. A guy that lived down the street had a yellow Superbird and I always enjoyed seeing the car. Fortunately I only saw the winged cars being driven in summer.
Love this channel, how there isn't way more subscribers is crazy!
Awesome video I love it. I'm 20 and work on cars and man I hope to own older cars like these in my near future
Awesome content Bob! Can't wait to see the Daytona in person with the nose on!
What a great video! What a luxury to be able to compare them side by side. I thought they were much closer than the are.
Thanks for the info. I was having a hard time deciding which one to buy.
I learned few new things. I always thought the vinyl tops, rear ends, gas fill locations and side front markers was the only difference. The rest what you said I had know ideal. Thanks teaching me new difference on when I look to get 1 in the future.
Great video, sir. Did I read somewhere that the wing difference on the bird was for trunk lid clearance? I'm sorry but that music at the end covering up the hemi sound was appalling. Sorry.
I remember in 1970 I was in 2nd grade in Laredo, TX. and an orange bird would pick up one of the other students, there.
The height of the wings has nothing to do with trunk clearance (just ended up working in addition to height of the wing ) like many people think. It actually was put up that high above the roof because that was the most optimal place for the wing to create down force at high speeds. The vents on top of the Daytonas fenders are actually meant to channel negative air pressure in the wheel wells outward so you don’t get front end lift.
@@farewell_to_normalcy9352 Excellent! I smelled a rat about this guy when he called the hemi Daytona an automatic four speed!! In one of his other cartoon/rich guy/keystone cops videos. Did you see that one? How about, in this video when he practically threw up, coughing, into his hand! I almost threw up too, because it's super gross 😝 and you know that's how he acts in real life!
I hope he checks the blinker fluid on his #'s matching muffler bearings! Do you think he knows that a metric crescent wrench works on American bolts, also? Ahahahahah 🤣
@@mrkemblegilstrap and the daytona is a charger R/T ? nooooo it is not , it is a 500 . guy might have a few dollars to throw round but i'll race my Porsche against him and his daytona charger title for title any day
@@carmineredd1198 Why? Don't you like your Porsche?
@@61rampy65 the challenge is to race to the other side of town and back , there is no way i can lose
From what I've read in the past there were no wing adjustments able to be made on the DC500 wing, only on the RRSB, the noses were shaped differently as were the rear wings and the RRSB used 1970 Dodge Coronet fenders.
The top of the fenders did have holes or a hole to release air pressure that would otherwise push the front end up under high speed. The trunk hinges had blocks so that they wouldn't open fully and bump the horizontal portion of the wing.
I'm certain that there were a number of other special modifications under the front nose cone and other areas and the information is out there in older muscle car articles that I remember that I've read and that might still be in my possession in storage.
My dad's '69 Plymouth Fury had overheating problems, too. It was common with Chrysler products with large V8's.
Had a ‘68 Fury but didn’t have overheating issues.
Dad had a 70 or 72 Fury and it had a 440cid. The engine bay made the 440 look tiny. A school bus fell on top of it and car roof dented very little while the kids were evacuating from bus. It was a tank to say the least.
Awesome presentation. I remember when these were new. I never thought about the subtle differences.
They got one thing in common: Looking damn good (and the sound too!)
Wow... tha k you for this video. Always loved the charger....until the newer body styles anyway and I've been a car guy for 35 years and love seeing the differences between both of these beautiful beast!!!! Keep up the good work
The wing angle was something I was always curious about when both vehicles were running in NASCAR, as I'd always study the print photos of them side-by-side on the speedways, where I'd do my best to discern the differences between the body-styling of both vehicles. The front end was easy to tell apart, but the rear wing always had me puzzled; probably due to the paint and decals on the vehicles distorting the looks of the bodylines.
Bird envy indeed! When I was a kid (11 or 12) a guy down the street had a Daytona. It was gorgeous. Nicely done video.
Gorgeous cars , I've always loved these cars , unfortunitly I am not a millionaire so my dreams of ever owning one will never happen , but I do love seeing them .
My grandparents had a SuperBird in the 70’s. Yes, my grandparents. Don’t know what happened to it yet I asked if I could have it when they passed.
Call The King and ask him about the scoops
Don't.
@@richsackett3423 do.
Excellent. I've owned 4 (6 MOPARs. counting a 1968 Coronet station wagon with a 383 and an Aspen RT). 1968 Charger RT 440x4 bbl, a 1969 440x4 GTX, a 1970 440x4 Challenger RT/SE and a 1972 Challenger 340x4 RT. All having TorqueFlites. A friend and I put a HEMI in a 1968 Dodge Van, which we drove to high school and he bought a 1966 HEMI Charger , yellow automatic from the original owner for $850 in 1975, which he later sold to Rick Finch, the bass player for KC and the Sunshine Band. I was lucky enough to grow up when the best muscle cars were made. Which includes a 1962 Ford Galaxy with a 406 3x2 bbl with a four speed (my next door neighbor) and across the street a 1962 Impala with a 409 four speed. 1/2 block away, a husband and wife with a 1962 Galaxy 406 and a 1963 Galaxy 427. Both red with white interior. And it goes on... Great Life
Hello Tim, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
I learned more stuff watching this video than 7 years in school
That's pretty damn sad, but probably true. ;-)
Can't imagine having one wing car but to be able to have 1 of each to compare and I know you have more you are a lucky man ❤!
If you noticed the background, there are several around.
Imagine being able to own 1 of these gorgeous cars....Let alone 3 or more! Absolutely amazing collection of unbelievably beautiful cars!
Also. Check the center ridge line of the hood. The Super Bird goes all the way down the hood and extended bumper. The Daytona's line stops with the hood.
A yellow 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona with a black wing is my all-time, gotta-have-it, can't-live-without-it, would-do-anything-to-get-it, favorite dream car. Thanks to David Spade and his creation of Joe Dirt.
@@thefreestylefrEaK It’s pronounced Dirté but yeah
Camera could wear headphones and hear that wind next time. And no coughing! Lol. Great little details. Thank you.
When I was a young kid this guy on my block had a green super bird , I used to love watching him fly by .
Learned something today. Thanks for posting this video. I had the same problems with the license plate with my Barracuda. Simple solution: Cut a piece of wood, varnish optional, a couple pieces of foam at each end to protect the paint and you have a prop for your license plate. Much easier to gas up. Best Regards - Mike
Cool to know the differences, my Mom's last name is Jennings too. 👍
Hello to a fellow Hoosier. Love the model replicas in the rear window trays,classic. Enjoy your wings and thank you for sharing.
Thanks for saving these beautiful cars, I wish I was so lucky!
Thank you for sharing! I've never seen one in real life and it's great to see someone take the time & effort to keep these beauties original
I just wanna find a 70’s charger, clean it up really well and convert it to a Daytona, and cherish it. My absolute dream car and I hate on how rare and expensive they are to get one
Here's a fun (or not so fun) fact for you, the Daytona in the movie Joe Dirt was a real Daytona and not a conversion as most people assume, the scene where the rear wing gets ripped off was a wooden mockup that was used for that scene only, the car is an actual collector grade Daytona that was "uglied up" by the Hollywood crew with special paint that'll wash off that gave it that weathered rust bucket look, about 6 years ago it was for sale, the owner left it in the condition it was for the movie hoping it would sell for more than a regular Daytona having it's movie tie in, it was listed with all the original parts to convert it back over from it's movie mods.
@@dukecraig2402 that movie is honestly what got me interested in the car before I started diving into stock car history. Which is funny enough
@@trentwatts3997
Yea it's a hysterical movie, and when I read about the car being for sale and saw pictures of it before the Hollywood people worked it over I couldn't believe it was a real Daytona, I expected it to be a mock up based on a regular Charger, as I recall it's actually that Plum Crazy color underneath the temporary paint job, if you watch the movie you can see a shot of him in the car at the booth where the security guard gives him a hard time, if you pause and look past him at the inside of the passenger door you can see purple (if I remember correctly) overspray on the door as would be expected from a factory paint job and that piece of translucent plastic that's under the door panel which was removed as part of uglying it up for the movie.
@@dukecraig2402 440 six pack car i think it was.
Great comparison of two absolutely classic Mopars. That restored Plymouth was nice. I'm old enough to remember when these sat on dealers lots because nobody wanted them. I only saw one on the road back in the day while in the service. It was a Superbird and it stuck out like a sore thumb at a busy 4 way intersection. A family relative has a nice car collection and has a yellow Superbird. I loved those Roadrunners and foolishly passed on a 70 Roadrunner that was still on the lot in 71. No one wanted it because it was yellow. Boy....if we could only turn back the clock.
Yep-uglier than heck 50 years ago. Time changes our viewpoints though!
You said you would should the plug for the rear window. I didn't see it.
Love the great info, knew a older gent as a kid in new berlin wi. That was lucky enough to have a daytona and superbird in nice condition, he was kind enough to talk of these cars and was the president of the superbird club of america.
4:35 it's purely decorative. Plymouth wanted the air to stay in the wheel well to increase pressure on the tires, meanwhile Dodge wanted to ventilate that air to reduce drag. So Chrysler gave what dodge wanted, to keep both cars looking similar, Plymouth had to use it too.
When the wheels are turning, they act like an air compressor. They squish the air to the ground and this increases the pressure inside the wheel well, particularly on the front of it. This causes 3 main things: 1st- more pressure on top of the tire, which increases friction. 2nd- increases drag by having air spilling over the sides, thus causing a wake area that disturbs air flow on the sides. 3rd: the increase pressure in the wheel well disencourages fresh air to enter in it, thus decreasing brake cooling. This can be observed in newer cars with different engineering solutions, like air intakes in there for 80's and 90's cars (more pressure = more oxigen = more power, more like snapier throttle response) and air curtains on 2021+ cars, that has the mission of reducing tire wake.
Wow 😍 what a video. This is good stuff. Dang I could listen to this guy a while. This is detailed. This rocks! 😎👍 Thank you for putting this out there.
Ill tell you the one big thing these cars have in common though, is that i cant afford either of one them
same here!
I had a beat up Daytona in high school in the late 1970's. It was a 440 4 speed car, but the transmission had been swapped for an automatic, though it still had the Dana 60 rear. The automatic shifter was a Mr. Gasket one that looked like a manual transmission shifter and fit the shifter opening perfectly. The engine was stock, except for headers. The loose clutch pedal was still installed in the car.
What a great comparison. Well done!
Just the fact that you have one of each is pretty epic. My all time fav Muscle car is the Superbird. Love the color and love that you have the Roadrunner decal. Awesome video. very instructive. I actually see a small model of the car through the back windshield. pretty girls riding the wings. Bonuses for having the car to begin with.
The difference is one is a Plymouth and one is a Dodge! ;>)
Great job! I remember a guy in Knoxville IL or around the Galesburg IL area, that had 6 or 7 of these cars in his yard back in the late 70s. I think he only had 1 or 2 Daytona's and the others were Superbirds. I always wanted1 of the Daytona's he had, it was orange and had a set of N50 15s on a set of 10 inch wide aluminum slots on the back and some 15x8 slots on the front all Goodyear Eagle white letter tires. At age 16 back then it was one of my dream cars! Then in my mid 20s I got to actually touch the Kings number 3 Daytona for 1969. At that time it belonged to a friend of mine, Brian Who lived in Ogden KS. Fun fact, it was white with blue numbers on the doors. Brian also owned a couple Sox and Martin cars. The 71 Cuda, and the 73 Duster! Again thanks for the video!
My mistake, I thought Richard Petty drove a Daytona, I was wrong, it was a Superbird in 1970!
Would love to own a Daytona always been my dream car
Nice video. My friend had an Orange Superbird, a 70 irrc. It was the greatest car to go cruising in, everyone stared at you. My made lots of cash with it, he never lost a race. The guys with really fast cars were smart enough not to risk losing to him.
In the small Canadian city where I lived I can only remember seeing one legit Plymouth Superbird on the road in the early 70s. The Dodge Daytona I've never seen in my life as a licensed vehicle on a Canadian roadway. Of course the Superbird had a stratospheric cool factor, yet most of my friends aspired to grow-up and own a Barracuda, Camaro, Corvette or Super Bee. The Superbird and Daytona Charger seemed mythical and unattainable back-in-the-day.
Ha! Same. I remember the cook at the pizza joint I'd frequent with friends had a Superbird. He had it parked out front all the time. This was out in St.Albert, Alberta around 88 - 89. White with a lot of rust unfortunately. Still, we used to drool over that car as much as the pizza.
@@danbaumann8273 Righteous recollection my Canadian brother. Those cars seemed unattainable back-in-the-day. Yet, they gave us all the belief anything was possible in our young lives. A better time in this country.
@@johnpatterson4272 Yeah it was very cool. As rare as hens teeth. I don't think Ive ever seen another one around there. Somehow recall one or two at car shows but that's about it. We did though have a few beautiful muscle cars around that town. I remember the two 67 Beaumont SD's and the 66 Chevelle SS I owned for a short spell. Sure wish I still had her. And yeah, I have to largely agree with you about that last bit too my friend. Here's hoping. Cheers. 🍻 🇨🇦
I saw a very reputable show on the wing cars and they stated that the fender vents were there for a hidden purpose (at the time). When NASCAR officials asked about the bumps, they were told that they were for tire clearance when they were actually meant to release trapped air in the fenders and engine bay. No one knew about that at that time so they didn't want to give away their advantage. Makes sense.
I’m 12 and some people might scoff and say someone as young as me who wasn’t around when these cars were made but I do love both these cars. Amazing examples.
Yo people underestimate us young people.
@@jaxx_eclipse right
My dream, my father had a 59 sports fury with a 413 cross ram wedge. Beautiful car looked like a rocket with the tail light wings. I don't think the engine was original but it would fly. I had a 1970 Duster 340 4 speed , was young and stupid and traded it for a 71 Camaro it wasn't stock at all, it had a 427 that my dad rebuilt and I lost my license drag racing. Thank you for sharing great video and very informative !!!!!
Couldn't even imagine having those in my driveway. WOW!
Pretty cool seeing the dealer sticker on it still. My old neighbor had a 57 Bel Air that still had the original dealer chrome plate on it.
My 75 Duster still has the dealer sticker on the trunk. Just proves its always been local.
there actual Chrysler studies about the fender vents....the 'functional' vents reduced drag by 3%
0.3 not 3
@@carmineredd1198
" The results of the various aero treatments were duly noted in internal memos drafted at Chrysler-memos that would not come to light until many years after these cars were retired. A "long" nose decreased drag by 9.5 percent, a "short" nose decreased drag by 12.5 percent. "Exhausters" mounted over the front tires reduced drag by a further three percent."
www.yahoo.com/news/cheaty-scoops-really-made-dodge-170923017.html