Differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Daytona Charger

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  • Опубликовано: 26 май 2021
  • A lot of people think that these cars are identical to one another that they just have different names... We wanted to take some time and point out the differences that make these cars different from one another. Hope you enjoy!
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  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet 2 года назад +1198

    I’m glad somebody with the ability and desire to preserve these cars has them

    • @ericnoble3475
      @ericnoble3475 2 года назад +21

      Expensive taste them mopars aint cheap

    • @chincemagnet
      @chincemagnet 2 года назад +20

      @@ericnoble3475 especially these in particular, I remember a friends mom had a mint 340 Cuda with like 28K miles on it when I was in high school, late 90's, i don't remember what she sold it for but I remember her turning down 30K for it on several occasions

    • @neilaji4221
      @neilaji4221 2 года назад +12

      Sad thing is that there were conversion kits back then to turn them back into chargers

    • @isaacsrandomvideos667
      @isaacsrandomvideos667 2 года назад +3

      @@ericnoble3475 very true lad

    • @joebone3151
      @joebone3151 2 года назад +5

      They don't deserve to be preserve they deserve to get raced.

  • @KCFlyer2
    @KCFlyer2 2 года назад +178

    My dad was a travelling salesman in the 60's and 70's and drove strictly Mopar. He put so many miles on that he got a new car every year. One year he drove up in a Superbird. My jaw dropped and I asked (incredulously) if he really got this. Sadly, he didn't. The dealer just let him bring it home for the weekend. But our house was the coolest one on the block for that weekend.

    • @tommissouri4871
      @tommissouri4871 2 года назад +19

      Back when dealers would left you drive off with the car, go pick up the family, and see how they liked it. Often you could keep it overnight and for some customers, for the weekend.

    • @mattjacomos2795
      @mattjacomos2795 Год назад +6

      @@tommissouri4871 it's known as the "puppy dog close".

    • @h8er627
      @h8er627 Год назад +2

      Your father was a saint.

    • @deeremeyer1749
      @deeremeyer1749 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@tommissouri4871They couldn't give away Superbirds, lol.

    • @liveBasschannel
      @liveBasschannel 24 дня назад

      @@deeremeyer1749right it is such that some roadrunners are actually disguised superbirds (with nose/spoiler delete)

  • @chevyblue10
    @chevyblue10 3 года назад +453

    The proper music would have been the sound of that hemi talking...

    • @aspiceronni4462
      @aspiceronni4462 2 года назад +8

      No doubt.

    • @waynewilliams5802
      @waynewilliams5802 2 года назад +9

      440

    • @waynewilliams5802
      @waynewilliams5802 2 года назад +5

      @@held1823 lol he said they are both 440 engines bone

    • @dadi2450
      @dadi2450 2 года назад +2

      @@waynewilliams5802 how do you manage to browse the internet when you're this blind

    • @eyeofforus
      @eyeofforus 2 года назад +5

      Prb used music because all u would hear is the drone props. But I agree

  • @scottofford3061
    @scottofford3061 3 года назад +327

    I remember seeing a Daytona at Eldon Palmers Dodge dealership on 38th Street in Indianapolis. Very cool era for Mopar’s.

    • @timevans8060
      @timevans8060 2 года назад +4

      I remember that, I live in speedway

    • @andyhastings5950
      @andyhastings5950 2 года назад +2

      I handled an insurance claim on a blue? Super bird back in the early 70s in NorCal. Soooooo coool

    • @Sean-Machado
      @Sean-Machado 2 года назад +1

      @@held1823 The other Daytona is a V2 automatic with a white stripe.

    • @stephenscisney7814
      @stephenscisney7814 2 года назад +2

      My friends Uncle bought the green one from Palmer Dodge. I lived about 1 mile from 38th & Keystone.

    • @opera93
      @opera93 2 года назад +2

      Thanks,interestingly, I remember seeing a Super Bird in downtown Lafayette, IND ( north side square, bY a Drugstore(??):: way to much length & drama.. Anyways, I graduated from Pharmacy School and replaced my high miles “66 GALAXIE 500 Xl/4 speed/352”, with 1970 CORONET 500;/383 loaded….in late Summer:: we thought good prices @$3100, could,not really afford BUICK GSX, MUSTANG 429/ BOSS AND JUDGES:: have a memory of SUPER BEE, RT’s / MERCURY Drag Pack/ were still expensive price in NORTH INDIANA.. i from WARSAW/ Webster area……..

  • @somerandomeguyonyoutube
    @somerandomeguyonyoutube 2 года назад +80

    I'm so happy to see that there is somebody on earth that possesses these two cars and wasn't stupid enough to modify the engines or do anything weird to them and has preserved them as they are

    • @highjix
      @highjix 2 года назад +5

      I have never even seen either of these cars in person so I am sooo jealous that he has multiple ones, not that I could afford to buy or restore one, so I guess it evens out.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 года назад +8

      @@highjix
      When I was a kid in the early 70's there was a yellow Daytona just like the one in this video that sat on a used car lot down the road from our house for well over a year that they couldn't sell, it's price continually dropped until they finally got rid of it.
      I remember seeing it covered in snow from my bedroom window and the wing on the back was the only way you could tell it from all the other snow covered cars, people go crazy about cars like this now but the fact is back in the day hardly anyone wanted them.

    • @jcnpresser
      @jcnpresser 2 года назад +1

      @@dukecraig2402 yep pretty much,they were built to win on the speedways on Sunday and to sell cars on Monday’s.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 года назад +2

      @@jcnpresser
      It got even worse for cars of that era further down the line, by the time I was in high school in the early 80's your average late 60's early 70's muscle type cars were going from $500 to $1500 depending on condition, now that doesn't include some late 60's COPO Camaro of course and by then the aero cars like one of these started to rise in price, but your run of the mill V8 powered Camaros and Mustang's and Polara's went for that kind of money, high school kids with after school jobs could buy them because by the early 80's no one wanted a 10 to 15 year old car that was a notorious gas guzzler, the general public didn't want something like that and the only people that cared about them were gear heads, and back then your average dentist or doctor weren't gear heads, they're the ones nowadays that are driving the prices of cars like that through the roof, but back then they didn't care about them, back in those days people with money considered something like that a bad investment.

    • @tharifdzulfiqar789
      @tharifdzulfiqar789 Год назад +1

      He got 3

  • @KinleysClassics
    @KinleysClassics 3 года назад +322

    This is the video I've always wanted someone to make. Nicely done, can't wait to see more!

  • @rockeroller
    @rockeroller 3 года назад +254

    Differences: all exterior body panels.

    • @fastlx3901
      @fastlx3901 3 года назад +35

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 2 totally different cars... 69 Daytona is a charger.... 70 superbird is a roadrunner... body panels are different

    • @vincentkujawski5159
      @vincentkujawski5159 3 года назад +14

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism this is a comparison between a Charger Daytona and a Road Runner Super bird! They both are factory original. Not a Charger and a Road Runner. Next time know what you're talking about before trying to sound like it! Js

    • @denniswilson9317
      @denniswilson9317 3 года назад +6

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Listen to the very first statement in the video again.

    • @amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544
      @amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 2 года назад +1

      @@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism did you watch the god damn video?

    • @mikamika9781
      @mikamika9781 2 года назад +5

      ​@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 'Differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Daytona Charger', the title of the video

  • @thehouserocker
    @thehouserocker 2 года назад +58

    When it comes to explaining differences on collector cars, THIS is how all the videos should be done! no BS just facts

  • @rileywallace1132
    @rileywallace1132 3 года назад +122

    "We are, same same, but Differeeeentt... but STILL same"
    -james Franco

  • @garypic4083
    @garypic4083 2 года назад +82

    I'm 70 years old, I remember back in the day we all laugh at those loads, even Dodge & Plymouth guys did
    I had a 69Mach1 428cj back then

    • @JenningsWingCars
      @JenningsWingCars  2 года назад +28

      I am embarrassed to say they were so weird back then they were just too crazy!. Thanks Gary

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 2 года назад +8

      Fastest production cars in the World in 1969-71. That’s not weird.

    • @Leatherface123.
      @Leatherface123. 2 года назад +14

      They were just unusual and a little to far ahead of their time
      It’s like Black Sabbath in 1969 creating heavy metal before guitar shredding was even a thing At a time where fast was medium speed and muscle cars where still growing

    • @thebusterdog6358
      @thebusterdog6358 2 года назад +3

      I had a 69 Buick GS with a 400 CI "slap stick" automatic transmission. It would have embarrassed either of these posers. That goofy spoiler served absolutely no purpose below 180 mph, and that nose cone was just an add on to allow for retractable headlights, that proved to be a nightmare for those stupid enough to buy either of those cars. Constant maintenance onnnthe lights and overheating issues. Most of the people I ran with in those days thought Mopar was a joke, except the Plymouth Challenger, it was an awesome design.

    • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
      @MAGGOT_VOMIT 2 года назад +10

      The rest of us laughed at you on race day. Maybe you shouldn't include what car you had when attempting to down a Mopar. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣

  • @danfarris135
    @danfarris135 3 года назад +82

    I remember riding the school bus in 70/71 and they had three of these in the front row of the local dealership. Not sure whether they were Plymouth or Dodge but it seemed like they sat there for a few years before being sold. My dad would always say who the *%ll would buy that when we drove by in our station wagon. 😁😁

    • @luffararnesugerkuk
      @luffararnesugerkuk 2 года назад +5

      Haha yeah, easy to be clever in 2021, who could have imagined? Would easily choose to go back there and buy a few of them, long term storage and just wait cause today they would be worth a fortune

    • @kelleybryan4775
      @kelleybryan4775 2 года назад

      I have MY 71 RR that I bought as first car Dad said no to the Daytona in 73 because he thought it was ugly!

    • @paulorchard7960
      @paulorchard7960 2 года назад

      Yeh, my first thought was designed by a 4 year old on the kitchen table with a box of crayons!

    • @DK-lz7kg
      @DK-lz7kg 2 года назад +1

      While they are collectible, aesthetically they are atrocious in design. Heavy, disproportionate, American junk design. Its not an appealing looking car I don’t know why people are into these, especially when there are plenty of other American muscle cars that look so much better

    • @garymcmullin2292
      @garymcmullin2292 2 года назад

      I agree with your dad!

  • @stripervince1
    @stripervince1 3 года назад +138

    No doubt Mopar went bonkers with winning and this was the pinnacle of hp style and performance. 1970 best year for American muscle. Mopar ruled. Great video

    • @davidthayer6969
      @davidthayer6969 3 года назад +3

      well no, actually they did not, the winged cars only won 12 nascar races in 1970 compared to 26 for their standard Road Runners and Chargers.

    • @stripervince1
      @stripervince1 3 года назад +30

      @@davidthayer6969 I didn't say they won more than anyone else. This was the car that brought petty back to Plymouth. It was the car that Bobby Isaac's drove over 200 mph. They were the most far out thing Detroit ever produced. 1970 was the best year for every muscle car made. LS6 450 hp 454 chevelles, 427 copo yenkos camaros, novas and chevelles, Baldwin motion cars, ,L88 Corvettes, stage 4 ram air GTOs, 440 six pack challengers, 426 hemi cudas, runners with ramcharger and air grabber pop up hoods ( most menacing deterrent for opposition on the street.) coolest item ever put on any muscle car. There were 455 GSX Buicks, 396/427 SS novas boss 429 mustangs. 428 cobra jet cyclones, AMC 390 scramblers Yeah. R/T charger 440and hemi coronets, super bees and chargers. Every car was at the peak performance, design and horsepower. 1970 was the best by far

    • @BoundlessPLYR
      @BoundlessPLYR 2 года назад +6

      @@held1823 exactly it's almost like they got banned from racing or something

    • @BoundlessPLYR
      @BoundlessPLYR 2 года назад +4

      @@held1823 I was agreeing with you, sarcasm doesn't come across well online sorry for the misunderstanding hah! I was more so referring to the other person not paying attention to win % etc.

    • @BoundlessPLYR
      @BoundlessPLYR 2 года назад +4

      @@held1823 ah that's fair haha for the record I enjoyed it lol

  • @grey5135
    @grey5135 2 года назад +85

    The vents over the wheel of the Daytona are functional. It bleeds off wind turbulence out of the wheel well reducing drag at high speeds. Alot of modern super cars actually have this design on their track focused cars. You can tell the Daytona was built by engineers and the Super bird was built by designers. The Daytona is by far the model I'd rather have if I could pick 1.

    • @jackschwartz1783
      @jackschwartz1783 2 года назад +7

      Also, as it bleeds off air it aids in brake cooling.
      Take Care All

    • @themagician2008
      @themagician2008 Год назад

      one example is the AMG project one in "race mode" but theirs are just flaps that fold down but same concept

    • @dezznutz3743
      @dezznutz3743 Год назад +1

      From what Ive heard, the vents are to allow more clearance for the wheels. If you didnt race or intend to race the car there is no hole, but the vent is still installed.

    • @themagician2008
      @themagician2008 Год назад

      @@dezznutz3743 they allow more clearance but there mainly for reducing drag.

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 3 месяца назад

      @grey5135, those front fender bumps/scoops were for tire clearance and not for heat venting

  • @colbyclemons3917
    @colbyclemons3917 2 года назад +39

    Folk legend: Richard petty said he wouldn’t drive a super bird unless the wing was 4 inches further forward.

  • @kenswitzer4133
    @kenswitzer4133 Год назад +5

    As an old hard case Chevy guy I really appreciate this video. I bought a 1970 super bee in 1971 drove it for 10 years then let it go for a family car. Sure miss it now, most likely never have another one because of the cost. Old Mopars buddy of mine told me one time that Chrysler didn't make cars to slice through the air they just beat it into submission. He was pretty much right. I love the old Mopars.

    • @seanoleary1979
      @seanoleary1979 9 месяцев назад

      Chevy = 💩💩💩💩 😝

    • @shtupidmate
      @shtupidmate 8 месяцев назад +1

      lmaoo beat into submission I gotta use that when talking about the F4 phantom

  • @Tripp426
    @Tripp426 3 года назад +9

    Two of my biggest dream cars side by side. Thanks for both the knowledge and giving us such an in-depth and close-up look at such iconic cars!

    • @JenningsWingCars
      @JenningsWingCars  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it Tripp, and your screenname is a good number!

  • @georgesbrodeur9608
    @georgesbrodeur9608 2 года назад +14

    Having driven my buddy’s Super Bird with a 440 six pack and 4 speed, at high speed, it was practically glued to the road. Hit a bump and the down force slammed you back down. Absolute joy to drive when we would go Porsche hunting on the freeways of San Jose.

    • @georgesbrodeur9608
      @georgesbrodeur9608 Год назад

      @Peter Angles 😂 no Camry, an Acura MDX, but would love a Subaru or a Mazda Miata with a standard tranny to race through the Santa Cruz mountains. As for the Superbird, at speed on the freeways, the aerodynamics kicked in by pushing it down. Yes, on mountain roads it sucked, and the brakes on cars back then were garbage after a few hard slow downs. But FUN to drive.

  • @jsrroadrash3663
    @jsrroadrash3663 3 года назад +80

    Well if I had to choose I'm going with the Daytona. When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Covington Ky and the was a orange Daytona parked down the street from her home I don't think there was a corner on that car that wasn't dented. I always wondered what happened to it I hope someone saved it.

    • @mikeatwood6232
      @mikeatwood6232 2 года назад +1

      Elkton Ky here !!!

    • @ericnoble3475
      @ericnoble3475 2 года назад +1

      I loved Covington i also lived in Florence for awhile....ive lived every where snd some the best times in kentucky

    • @CJ-xx5ms
      @CJ-xx5ms 2 года назад +3

      @Christian Williams Nobody really cares about your comment lol

    • @ianshafer64
      @ianshafer64 2 года назад +4

      99% sure that car is still kicking. There's an orange Daytona that shows up to Cincinnati Cars and Coffee sometimes.

    • @canceledpublicaccessproduc1167
      @canceledpublicaccessproduc1167 2 года назад +4

      Pretty sure that ended up in possession of a family friend who is deceased now. he used to have pictures of one beat to hell he restored and sold it sometime in the 90s if it’s the same one . If I can get pics I’ll post one who knows.

  • @jackofalltrades7469
    @jackofalltrades7469 2 года назад +71

    I looked at those and decided they were too long and flashy, insurance was high, bought a 1970 Barracuda AAR 340 for $6800 in 1970. Was tempted to buy a hemi road runner. Wish I had kept it. Those were the days.

    • @whatswiththissassylostchilld
      @whatswiththissassylostchilld 2 года назад +2

      Those were great times to be alive.

    • @sloanramon6004
      @sloanramon6004 2 года назад +2

      Those were the days indeed. I have a couple #s 340 cars, but no sixpac

    • @Prince_.A
      @Prince_.A 2 года назад +1

      Thats roughly 50k in today's money. Thats crazy man.

    • @kingboagart899
      @kingboagart899 2 года назад +4

      Owned a 70 roadrunner 440 pistol grip 4 spd. 70 challenger 383 auto, 70 amx 390 4spd. 70 chevelle 375hp 4spd all at different times. Believe it or not challenger was fastest at 154 mph, while amx was quickest to about 90. Now that I'm old I've got a little black 67 camaro that pulls a sub 11 qtr mile and my grandsons don't yet appreciate!

    • @Prince_.A
      @Prince_.A 2 года назад +1

      @@kingboagart899 I'm about to start working on cars myself. Im looking at getting 83 3rd gen Camaro to start working on. I could get a 2019 1SS, but I love the older muscle man.

  • @electricimpulse7
    @electricimpulse7 2 года назад +19

    Finally, quality internet content

  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR 3 года назад +25

    Nice vid! The rear end of the Daytona does it for me.
    Next time, maybe give us a shot of those wing supports in the trunk and you never did show us the rear window "plug".

    • @JenningsWingCars
      @JenningsWingCars  3 года назад +12

      You are 100% correct Scott-we need to show that plug and those braces, and we will, promise. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Bob

  • @ericball6000
    @ericball6000 3 года назад +18

    thanks for all the info on both of these awesome Mopar's, glad that you got the red one running, cheers.

  • @nojnoj3069
    @nojnoj3069 Месяц назад

    I just found your RUclips channel and this video had me smiling all the way through. Thank you so very much for all the information. Sir, there are so many of us out here that are beholding to collector's like yourself, if it weren't for you these awesome automobiles wouldn't exist. Sir, thank you very much........ needless to say I subbed immediately.

  • @kingjames8283
    @kingjames8283 Год назад +2

    Between the two, I go for the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird. Glad you are keeping the memory and legacy of these cars. My uncle up in Indianapolis who back then worked for Chrysler 30th Street and retired from the Foundry on Tibbs Ave had Dodge Chargers every year in the late 60's and early 70's. I remember the '70 real well back then when my little fingers got caught between the door and the door frame by the latch from the outside when it closed unexpectedly. It was quite painful I remember.

  • @brianbartlett7313
    @brianbartlett7313 3 года назад +6

    Love this channel, how there isn't way more subscribers is crazy!

  • @danvandal4127
    @danvandal4127 2 года назад +3

    Thank you, I was always fascinated by these cars but didn't know the differences all too well.

  • @lincolnls0416
    @lincolnls0416 2 года назад +1

    I learned few new things. I always thought the vinyl tops, rear ends, gas fill locations and side front markers was the only difference. The rest what you said I had know ideal. Thanks teaching me new difference on when I look to get 1 in the future.

  • @gregsmith6400
    @gregsmith6400 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing! I've never seen one in real life and it's great to see someone take the time & effort to keep these beauties original

  • @sandersondavis
    @sandersondavis 2 года назад +4

    I always wanted one of these cars. This video changed my mind. Not trying to be snarky, I just wanted to thank you for quality content. Seriously.

  • @ShafferBrah
    @ShafferBrah 3 года назад +6

    Awesome content Bob! Can't wait to see the Daytona in person with the nose on!

  • @tonylittle8634
    @tonylittle8634 3 года назад +2

    Awesome presentation. I remember when these were new. I never thought about the subtle differences.

  • @arnoventer226
    @arnoventer226 2 года назад +4

    These 2 cars are so awesome. I never know which one I like more, the Daytona or the Superbird. Good video explaining the difference between the cars.

  • @littlehookerjam407
    @littlehookerjam407 2 года назад +17

    They're both beautiful cars! Thank you for sharing them. 🙂

  • @Omnihil777
    @Omnihil777 2 года назад +1

    It's wonderful to listen to a man talking about his honest passion. He's glad with his two birds and he shares it. Good man in my book!

  • @jeffjohnston3504
    @jeffjohnston3504 Год назад +1

    I really enjoyed hearing and seeing the differences between the two cars. I especially liked the drone view of the orange Daytona.

  • @taylorhartman96
    @taylorhartman96 3 года назад +3

    My grandpa worked for the Vernon M Ball dealership as a mechanic back in the 60's and my dad remembers a green Super Bird in the area back in the 70's (We are from the Elkhart, IN area). It was most likely this same one!!

  • @DavidB7474
    @DavidB7474 2 года назад +3

    As a Chevy guy, it’s great to learn this. Wing cars, mopars have always been more rare. The prices for any classic have gone crazy in the past years! Nice to see original type cars, not some over the top, modified restomod. I appreciate the modified cars and the work, but sometimes it’s just to much. Stock is just plain cool!

  • @michaelloth6728
    @michaelloth6728 2 года назад

    Thank you for presenting the cars and talking about their differences. They are all nice. I grew up in Milwaukee, WI. I was 10 years old in 1971 and used to see these cars on the road back then. A guy that lived down the street had a yellow Superbird and I always enjoyed seeing the car. Fortunately I only saw the winged cars being driven in summer.

  • @rickhoover6479
    @rickhoover6479 Год назад

    Just watched this in June '22. These cars have been my grail of grails since I was a teen ... maybe even before. There was always one parked in the 500 block of Vickroy Ave in the Ferndale section of Johnstown, PA in the 1970s. It stood out like no other car on the block!!! I loved that car! I later met a kid in HS who's dream car was also the Superbird, and MoPars in general. I learned as much as I could about the Superbird and Daytona through books, magazines and word of mouth. Now all it takes is a good hour on Google to learn what took me years. Anyways. Glad to see these beauties being restored and cherished.

  • @dave23024
    @dave23024 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the info. I was having a hard time deciding which one to buy.

  • @paulhewson4600
    @paulhewson4600 3 года назад +22

    Call The King and ask him about the scoops

  • @MJ-wh8yz
    @MJ-wh8yz 2 года назад +1

    Wow 😍 what a video. This is good stuff. Dang I could listen to this guy a while. This is detailed. This rocks! 😎👍 Thank you for putting this out there.

  • @EricTheOld
    @EricTheOld 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your time. It's guys like you and Leno preserving history that keep us informed! I'd question you to death if I ever met you about this and that but it's out of appreciation. Take care

  • @frankkruchef7248
    @frankkruchef7248 2 года назад +4

    They got one thing in common: Looking damn good (and the sound too!)

  • @cacodemonbeatboxcultmember6440
    @cacodemonbeatboxcultmember6440 2 года назад +8

    I learned more stuff watching this video than 7 years in school

    • @sandersondavis
      @sandersondavis 2 года назад +3

      That's pretty damn sad, but probably true. ;-)

  • @johnswimmer4104
    @johnswimmer4104 3 дня назад

    Very Cool. I had to watch this after seeing the Bonneville 71 short film. Really neat to see the similarities and differences between these 2 beautiful cars. Thank you for sharing.

  • @TCUsouthpaw
    @TCUsouthpaw 2 года назад +2

    I was born in '97 and I saw a Plymouth superbird rolling down the interstate a couple months ago in Austin, TX. I've seen plenty of nice cars, Porsche 911's , Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, and even Bugatti's; but this car was the one and only Plymouth I've ever seen in my life and I was late to work because I watched it ten miles past my exit and had to loop back. Beautiful car for sure!

  • @pb68slab18
    @pb68slab18 2 года назад +6

    I've read dealers as well as buyers pulled those extended nose pieces and cut-off or removed the wing/spoiler because they couldn't sell them.

  • @rodneybadger734
    @rodneybadger734 2 года назад +3

    My dad bought a 440 pistol grip 4spd bench seat SuperBird back in 1983. Restored it and showed it for many years. Sold it back in 1997 for 20Gs. I heard the story for many years on how much their worth day, till he just passed. The fender scoops were there for tire clearance for NasCar racing. We still have have a mint 1969 340 Dart with only 34,000 miles. Best of times.

  • @arsbadmojo
    @arsbadmojo 2 года назад +1

    What a great video! What a luxury to be able to compare them side by side. I thought they were much closer than the are.

  • @houseofdemons5427
    @houseofdemons5427 2 года назад +2

    2 of my favorite classic muscle cars in one video, I'm in love with these cars

  • @coolman72891
    @coolman72891 2 года назад +13

    Ill tell you the one big thing these cars have in common though, is that i cant afford either of one them

  • @ccrider77
    @ccrider77 2 года назад +3

    It's a very informative video, with some information I didn't know before. The only thing that I take issue with is the Superbird vinyl top question. A vinyl top isn't able to hide rough, uneven or bad bodywork. It will show right under the vinyl. I've read in various older car magazines that the vinyl roof was used for aerodynamic reasons. This is why you actually saw Superbirds with vinyl roofs at NASCAR. The theory at the time was it would improve laminar airflow, similar to how the dimpled surface of a golf ball does. Of course, later testing showed that it made no difference whatsoever. The amount of time to properly apply a vinyl roof would be roughly the same as that to fill the seams on a plug. Some articles support this and others don't, which only added to the confusion.

    • @allysonhanks7367
      @allysonhanks7367 2 года назад +2

      Hello Chris, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.

  • @dom_hart
    @dom_hart 2 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for making this video
    It’s so useful to know the differences between the two cars and I’ve always loved both the Daytona and the super bird so thanks so much for the video and I reckon you explained it really well

  • @ROBSMST
    @ROBSMST 2 года назад

    Thank you for making this video, sharing your cars, and going through the differences

  • @justonemori
    @justonemori Год назад +5

    Thanks, I always wondered what the differences were past the obvious vinyl and wing. They're so rare it's hard to find both parked next to each other. I suspect the fender holes on the Dodge are to reduce air pressure in the wheel well which lowers turbulence and helps stability.

    • @dezznutz3743
      @dezznutz3743 Год назад

      Its for clearance so the tires wouldnt rub.

  • @hbuzgon9557
    @hbuzgon9557 3 года назад +16

    what a great overview... great camera angles show at the end with the holy grail ....

  • @azurplex
    @azurplex 2 года назад

    Good info, I appreciate your knowledge and time, effort and resources you put into these iconic cars.
    Please top it off by investing in a wind screen for your camera mic or a lavalier with same would be even better.

  • @teddyrichards8421
    @teddyrichards8421 2 года назад +3

    you are the luckiest man in the planet!! They are my dream cars!!!I'm beyond happy they are in great HANDS! Thank you for preservation of them

  • @jmuduke99
    @jmuduke99 2 года назад +3

    Couldn't even imagine having those in my driveway. WOW!

  • @easygoing2479
    @easygoing2479 3 года назад

    Very nice video! Nice to see a side-by-side comparison like this; they’re seen so rarely nowadays, and only at car shows (or parade laps before races).
    You mentioned the Superbird was sent out to Creative Industries for some details of production, I believe in reference to the vinyl top. It was my understanding the Superbird was a complete “in house” run, almost exclusive to Nov.1969 at the Lynch Road plant to cut time and costs of the much larger production number needed to satisfy NASCAR’s stricter 1970 homologation rule. Did I just learn something knew after all the years since my wing car driving days?

  • @marklark8805
    @marklark8805 2 года назад

    Hello to a fellow Hoosier. Love the model replicas in the rear window trays,classic. Enjoy your wings and thank you for sharing.

  • @Stormbringer505
    @Stormbringer505 2 года назад +3

    When I was a young kid this guy on my block had a green super bird , I used to love watching him fly by .

  • @isaacsrandomvideos667
    @isaacsrandomvideos667 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for saving these beautiful cars, I wish I was so lucky!

  • @user-wr2dm9gn8s
    @user-wr2dm9gn8s 8 месяцев назад

    I had the 68 Coronet RT. It had 440, 4 speed stick with Dana rearend. 8 leaf springs on the left & 9 on the right with RT heavy duty torsion bars in front. Was that also used on the Plymouth Superbird & Datona Charger? You never mentioned the suspension.

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion 2 года назад +1

    From what I've read in the past there were no wing adjustments able to be made on the DC500 wing, only on the RRSB, the noses were shaped differently as were the rear wings and the RRSB used 1970 Dodge Coronet fenders.
    The top of the fenders did have holes or a hole to release air pressure that would otherwise push the front end up under high speed. The trunk hinges had blocks so that they wouldn't open fully and bump the horizontal portion of the wing.
    I'm certain that there were a number of other special modifications under the front nose cone and other areas and the information is out there in older muscle car articles that I remember that I've read and that might still be in my possession in storage.

  • @plymouthdie-castreplicas
    @plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 года назад +3

    Nothing compares to Limelight Green Superbird! Great video.

  • @IAMTHEBIGCHUCQUITA
    @IAMTHEBIGCHUCQUITA 3 года назад +29

    The difference is one is a Plymouth and one is a Dodge! ;>)

  • @MPW68
    @MPW68 3 года назад +2

    I'm an Oldsmobile Cutlass guy, but you gave me an interesting outlook on Mopars, not sure which one i like the best, they're both beautiful cars, glad to see you got the orange one running.

    • @jongoldey3842
      @jongoldey3842 3 года назад

      Had a 67 442 and a,Delmont 88. Fantastic autos!!!

  • @JaimeSalcedoA_72
    @JaimeSalcedoA_72 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent video, showing the most notable differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Charger Daytona! I come for the link that Lou Costabile left on his channel "My Car Story"... Best regards!!

  • @Spritsailor
    @Spritsailor 2 года назад +5

    My dad's '69 Plymouth Fury had overheating problems, too. It was common with Chrysler products with large V8's.

    • @talisikid1618
      @talisikid1618 2 года назад

      Had a ‘68 Fury but didn’t have overheating issues.

    • @oilman1758
      @oilman1758 2 года назад

      Dad had a 70 or 72 Fury and it had a 440cid. The engine bay made the 440 look tiny. A school bus fell on top of it and car roof dented very little while the kids were evacuating from bus. It was a tank to say the least.

  • @Danielpakuts
    @Danielpakuts 3 года назад +9

    Cool to know the differences, my Mom's last name is Jennings too. 👍

  • @mikelaumaillier9271
    @mikelaumaillier9271 2 года назад

    Learned something today. Thanks for posting this video. I had the same problems with the license plate with my Barracuda. Simple solution: Cut a piece of wood, varnish optional, a couple pieces of foam at each end to protect the paint and you have a prop for your license plate. Much easier to gas up. Best Regards - Mike

  • @matthewsmith4599
    @matthewsmith4599 Год назад

    Wow... tha k you for this video. Always loved the charger....until the newer body styles anyway and I've been a car guy for 35 years and love seeing the differences between both of these beautiful beast!!!! Keep up the good work

  • @brianglover7629
    @brianglover7629 3 года назад +6

    I remember seeing that super bird when I was a kid in Elkhart

  • @parkersgarage4216
    @parkersgarage4216 2 года назад +3

    I already know the differences but I had to come see the cars. Love the super birds

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 2 года назад

    I would absolutely love to get my hands on either of these beauties. Phenomenal pieces of automotive history.👍

  • @anonpure7533
    @anonpure7533 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video I love it. I'm 20 and work on cars and man I hope to own older cars like these in my near future

  • @johnstory4163
    @johnstory4163 2 года назад +6

    Would love to own a Daytona always been my dream car

  • @carchub
    @carchub 3 года назад +4

    A yellow 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona with a black wing is my all-time, gotta-have-it, can't-live-without-it, would-do-anything-to-get-it, favorite dream car. Thanks to David Spade and his creation of Joe Dirt.

    • @carchub
      @carchub 3 года назад

      @@thefreestylefrEaK It’s pronounced Dirté but yeah

  • @Sheepdog70
    @Sheepdog70 Год назад

    Great video! Thanks for explaining those beautiful vehicles and keeping them safe and sound!

  • @hunterhobbs4374
    @hunterhobbs4374 7 месяцев назад

    I love this video, thank you sir for sharing.
    I would choose the Daytona, however I am curious at top speed which front scoop intake vent is more efficient.

  • @trentwatts3997
    @trentwatts3997 2 года назад +6

    I just wanna find a 70’s charger, clean it up really well and convert it to a Daytona, and cherish it. My absolute dream car and I hate on how rare and expensive they are to get one

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 года назад +1

      Here's a fun (or not so fun) fact for you, the Daytona in the movie Joe Dirt was a real Daytona and not a conversion as most people assume, the scene where the rear wing gets ripped off was a wooden mockup that was used for that scene only, the car is an actual collector grade Daytona that was "uglied up" by the Hollywood crew with special paint that'll wash off that gave it that weathered rust bucket look, about 6 years ago it was for sale, the owner left it in the condition it was for the movie hoping it would sell for more than a regular Daytona having it's movie tie in, it was listed with all the original parts to convert it back over from it's movie mods.

    • @trentwatts3997
      @trentwatts3997 2 года назад +1

      @@dukecraig2402 that movie is honestly what got me interested in the car before I started diving into stock car history. Which is funny enough

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 года назад +1

      @@trentwatts3997
      Yea it's a hysterical movie, and when I read about the car being for sale and saw pictures of it before the Hollywood people worked it over I couldn't believe it was a real Daytona, I expected it to be a mock up based on a regular Charger, as I recall it's actually that Plum Crazy color underneath the temporary paint job, if you watch the movie you can see a shot of him in the car at the booth where the security guard gives him a hard time, if you pause and look past him at the inside of the passenger door you can see purple (if I remember correctly) overspray on the door as would be expected from a factory paint job and that piece of translucent plastic that's under the door panel which was removed as part of uglying it up for the movie.

    • @rickjensen1636
      @rickjensen1636 2 года назад +1

      @@dukecraig2402 440 six pack car i think it was.

  • @mrkemblegilstrap
    @mrkemblegilstrap 3 года назад +8

    Great video, sir. Did I read somewhere that the wing difference on the bird was for trunk lid clearance? I'm sorry but that music at the end covering up the hemi sound was appalling. Sorry.
    I remember in 1970 I was in 2nd grade in Laredo, TX. and an orange bird would pick up one of the other students, there.

    • @farewell_to_normalcy9352
      @farewell_to_normalcy9352 3 года назад +3

      The height of the wings has nothing to do with trunk clearance (just ended up working in addition to height of the wing ) like many people think. It actually was put up that high above the roof because that was the most optimal place for the wing to create down force at high speeds. The vents on top of the Daytonas fenders are actually meant to channel negative air pressure in the wheel wells outward so you don’t get front end lift.

    • @mrkemblegilstrap
      @mrkemblegilstrap 3 года назад

      @@farewell_to_normalcy9352 Excellent! I smelled a rat about this guy when he called the hemi Daytona an automatic four speed!! In one of his other cartoon/rich guy/keystone cops videos. Did you see that one? How about, in this video when he practically threw up, coughing, into his hand! I almost threw up too, because it's super gross 😝 and you know that's how he acts in real life!
      I hope he checks the blinker fluid on his #'s matching muffler bearings! Do you think he knows that a metric crescent wrench works on American bolts, also? Ahahahahah 🤣

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 3 года назад

      @@mrkemblegilstrap and the daytona is a charger R/T ? nooooo it is not , it is a 500 . guy might have a few dollars to throw round but i'll race my Porsche against him and his daytona charger title for title any day

    • @61rampy65
      @61rampy65 2 года назад

      @@carmineredd1198 Why? Don't you like your Porsche?

    • @carmineredd1198
      @carmineredd1198 2 года назад

      @@61rampy65 the challenge is to race to the other side of town and back , there is no way i can lose

  • @marcoantoniomarquezperez2652
    @marcoantoniomarquezperez2652 Год назад

    Just the fact that you have one of each is pretty epic. My all time fav Muscle car is the Superbird. Love the color and love that you have the Roadrunner decal. Awesome video. very instructive. I actually see a small model of the car through the back windshield. pretty girls riding the wings. Bonuses for having the car to begin with.

  • @shadetreejoe3986
    @shadetreejoe3986 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting about the vinyl tops on the Superbird. I had no idea, but it makes perfect sense.

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 2 года назад +3

    The wing angle was something I was always curious about when both vehicles were running in NASCAR, as I'd always study the print photos of them side-by-side on the speedways, where I'd do my best to discern the differences between the body-styling of both vehicles. The front end was easy to tell apart, but the rear wing always had me puzzled; probably due to the paint and decals on the vehicles distorting the looks of the bodylines.

  • @johnpatterson4272
    @johnpatterson4272 2 года назад +3

    In the small Canadian city where I lived I can only remember seeing one legit Plymouth Superbird on the road in the early 70s. The Dodge Daytona I've never seen in my life as a licensed vehicle on a Canadian roadway. Of course the Superbird had a stratospheric cool factor, yet most of my friends aspired to grow-up and own a Barracuda, Camaro, Corvette or Super Bee. The Superbird and Daytona Charger seemed mythical and unattainable back-in-the-day.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 2 года назад +1

      Ha! Same. I remember the cook at the pizza joint I'd frequent with friends had a Superbird. He had it parked out front all the time. This was out in St.Albert, Alberta around 88 - 89. White with a lot of rust unfortunately. Still, we used to drool over that car as much as the pizza.

    • @johnpatterson4272
      @johnpatterson4272 2 года назад +2

      @@danbaumann8273 Righteous recollection my Canadian brother. Those cars seemed unattainable back-in-the-day. Yet, they gave us all the belief anything was possible in our young lives. A better time in this country.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 2 года назад +1

      @@johnpatterson4272 Yeah it was very cool. As rare as hens teeth. I don't think Ive ever seen another one around there. Somehow recall one or two at car shows but that's about it. We did though have a few beautiful muscle cars around that town. I remember the two 67 Beaumont SD's and the 66 Chevelle SS I owned for a short spell. Sure wish I still had her. And yeah, I have to largely agree with you about that last bit too my friend. Here's hoping. Cheers. 🍻 🇨🇦

  • @CaptainCraigKWMRZ
    @CaptainCraigKWMRZ Год назад

    I grew up in Greenwood, Indiana and first saw one of these new in White land, Indiana.
    I eventually owned a '69 Charger but never a Wing car...
    Unbelievable.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @picax8398
    @picax8398 2 года назад +1

    Just the fact you have both sitting next to each other is amazing

  • @justpassnthru
    @justpassnthru 2 года назад +5

    It's a shame about the sound quality on this otherwise excellent video. Just when you thought it couldn't get more annoying than the wind noise the doggo chimes in.

  • @buickguy1
    @buickguy1 3 года назад +5

    I used to work with a guy who told me one time when he was a teenager he and his father were at a Chrysler dealership looking for a new station wagon when they saw a Plymouth superbird in the showroom and his father said "that is the ugliest car I've ever seen" if he only knew what it would be worth now.

    • @danfarris135
      @danfarris135 3 года назад +1

      Same with my dad

    • @kylejorgensen1412
      @kylejorgensen1412 2 года назад

      I still think they're ugly but I love oddities like these

    • @thud9797
      @thud9797 2 года назад +1

      Many dealers found those Superbirds hard to sell. Some even converted the pointed front to a standard Roadrunner. It wasn't until 1972 that the last new Superbird was finally sold.

  • @dallasharris8966
    @dallasharris8966 2 года назад

    First of all, very nice cars and your explanation of the difference between these was very well explained. 💯

    • @dallasharris8966
      @dallasharris8966 2 года назад

      Looking forwatd to seeing the next breakdowns of each one too. Thank you

  • @jimjungle1397
    @jimjungle1397 2 года назад

    I had a beat up Daytona in high school in the late 1970's. It was a 440 4 speed car, but the transmission had been swapped for an automatic, though it still had the Dana 60 rear. The automatic shifter was a Mr. Gasket one that looked like a manual transmission shifter and fit the shifter opening perfectly. The engine was stock, except for headers. The loose clutch pedal was still installed in the car.

  • @albarran490
    @albarran490 2 года назад +5

    I would be scared to even drive those beauties in the street , those altima drivers ready to wreck into you at all times

  • @themergen1
    @themergen1 3 года назад +4

    You said you would should the plug for the rear window. I didn't see it.

  • @davidgallagher5837
    @davidgallagher5837 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for showing us your cars, its much appreciated.

  • @lucianolarosa9975
    @lucianolarosa9975 2 года назад

    Beautiful examples of my favorite car. Can’t afford real car, just purchased 70 super bird 1/64 scale slot car(Tyco pro).Thanks for sharing your cars, and your hands on knowledge.

  • @heitorbernardes7977
    @heitorbernardes7977 2 года назад +3

    4:35 it's purely decorative. Plymouth wanted the air to stay in the wheel well to increase pressure on the tires, meanwhile Dodge wanted to ventilate that air to reduce drag. So Chrysler gave what dodge wanted, to keep both cars looking similar, Plymouth had to use it too.

    • @heitorbernardes7977
      @heitorbernardes7977 2 года назад +1

      When the wheels are turning, they act like an air compressor. They squish the air to the ground and this increases the pressure inside the wheel well, particularly on the front of it. This causes 3 main things: 1st- more pressure on top of the tire, which increases friction. 2nd- increases drag by having air spilling over the sides, thus causing a wake area that disturbs air flow on the sides. 3rd: the increase pressure in the wheel well disencourages fresh air to enter in it, thus decreasing brake cooling. This can be observed in newer cars with different engineering solutions, like air intakes in there for 80's and 90's cars (more pressure = more oxigen = more power, more like snapier throttle response) and air curtains on 2021+ cars, that has the mission of reducing tire wake.

  • @rufinolara747
    @rufinolara747 2 года назад +4

    I love both but I would definitely take the Daytona 😍🔥🔥🔥