We did a blind tasting at my pub between the Macallan 12, Glenfarclas 12, Aberloour 12 and GlenDronach 12 with a panel of 21. The GlenDronach and Glenfarclas were neck and neck, the Aberlour was not too far behind... and The Macallan was a good deal behind. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
@@bendakstarkiller1270 Seconded. The 18 is pretty good but the price is ridiculous. I'd rather buy Hennessy XO if I'm going to drop that much on a bottle. The GlenDronach 12 has a lot of character that lends to exploring the scotch. Macallan 12 is pretty one note and thin with a weird medicinal finish. I'd rather drink a Sheildag 18 which is the same price.
What I really respect about your reviews is that you get straight to the point & don't beat around the bush. Great review. Glendronach is my favourite single malt aged scotch whisky. All the best & stay safe.
The Grandeur retails for around $700. Also, the Glendronach website says they re-opened in 2002 (spring). Since the SWA rules require a full year for age statements, any 18's with a discharge date before spring 2020 will have the added age. So the current 18's ($145 - Oregon) in my area have a 2019 discharge date which means at least 23 yr old whisky. Cheers!
I just revisited the Macallan 12 and was disappointed. It tasted young, sharp and was a little hot, so the Glendronach 12 is much better IMO. I've bought 5 bottles of the old GD 15 for $80 and its great. I just had 2 pours of the new GD 15 and I was surprised how good it was, especially the 2nd glass. Its $63 at Total Wine. I've had a bottle of the GD 18 that was a 2015 version so 20 years and it was great. Its $160 at Total Wine. I've also had a bottle of the GD 21 for about $200 and was disappointed. It was actually to spicy/hot not what I was expecting. Great review on the GD.
I'm on my 3rd bottle of the GlenDronach 12. Still one of my favorite 12ys. Had the pleasure of tasting both the 15 and the 18 today (both bottled unchillfiltered before 2021). The 15 is a treat... Even if you just had the 12, you can definitely tell it's the glendronach character, just much more intense. Moving up to the 18 we go even darker and intensity is cranked up to 11. I loved the 15 but the 18 may have been the best whisky I've ever tasted so far. Amazing.
Glendronach is my #1 so it's obvious where I stand, LOL. I'd go with Glendronach for the 15, 18, 21 but I'd take the Mac 12. The Macs prices goes way up after the 12 so I'd skip those because of cost vs. value and grab the Classic Cut or Edition Series. Cheers
I've got several bottles each of the Glendronach 12, 15, 18 and 21 and a single cask bottling of their 28 year Sherry Puncheon bottled at 52.5% ABV. I love me some Glendronach! Maybe it's just their newer stuff but I think the 15 year is a good step up from the 12 but the 18 and 21 are just on another level. 15 is fantastic for the price and what you get.
Nice review Jeremy! I ve done the 15 (older 2014) vs 18, vs 21 blind many times and have always picked the 15 as the winner. So I'd probably say for me older 15>21>18>12. The new 15yr is more like the newer 12yr bottlings. It's lighter in sherry flavor. It's brighter and I get a lot more vanilla on it. It's almost got a 15yr Mac F.O. flavor going on. It's good but different for sure. Yes the Allardice is still being bottled. There is a confirmed 2019/04/08 bottle code . So if the distillery closed on 2-26-96. then it would make that 18yr at least 23yrs 1mo and 16 days old lol. The 18yr is by far the best value imo right now. Plus it's still 100% oloroso casks and cheap! I also ordered a couple 2018 Parliaments and they are indeed a few shades lighter as mentioned in MR's comment. I have not opened them yet so can't speak to the quality or flavor profile. I haven't done the Mac 12 vs Glendro 12 side by side but it would be a fun one to do. Cheers!
@@SippersSocialClub they have to be using more refill and 2nd fills in the core range now. It seems that all the bottlings are getting lighter and lighter except for the single cask releases which are usually very dark.
My compliments for showing that scematic about the age. Not everybody knows about that. Now do one in 2021 with 2019 -2020 bottles I guarentee you will get a diffrent result.
As a bourbon fan, I keep very few bottles of Scotch on my shelf. Glendronach is one of my few go-to Scotch brands (mainly due to their natural color commitment, and the fact that I'm a Brown Foreman shareholder:). I've tried their 12, 15, 18 and 21 year offerings, and the 15-Year is the best, in terms of taste and value - in my opinion).
Picked up a 15 yr old revival while in Edinburgh for my honeymoon. Brought it back to Ontario. Was really excited and had been looking for it for a handful of years after ralfys review. This is a great whisky. However, I didn't realize how old the whisky was in the older bottles. This one is nice but very, very spicy. Not what I expected. Definitely 15 yrs and not a day older. Tastes more like a 10 yr old at 46%. After revisiting it a handful of times now it has cooled off a bit. Still happy I got my hands on a bottle finally. Cheers.
Great video. Glendronach was the first distillery that really got me on the whisky trail. I have had multiple bottles of all of these (bar the 15) and the 18 is probably still my favourite whisky to date. I’m a bit put off the Macallan 12 as it’s bottles at 40% over here in New Zealand. Not sure how I can really enjoy it.
Macallan is overrated. 43% chill filtered doesn't impress me. Have you tried Springbank 15? I tried it at the same time as the Allardice 18 and favoured the Springbank. I also recommend GlenAllachie 12 if you can find it.
@@TheParadigmShiftTV I don't think the Mac12 is overrated when you're paying $60 or less for it. I don't feel like the chill filtration takes anything away. The Gronach 12 tastes thinner to me. To each their own. I want to do a head to head soon. Yes, love Springbank, one of my favorite distilleries. The 2019 21yr is amazing stuff. Cheers!
Mac12 ranges from 100 to 135 USD in my location. I can buy the Glendronach Allardice for less so I don’t think I’ll be picking up the Mac12 anytime soon.
The glendronach's 15 and 18 year old scotch are in my favorite scotch's of the 100 + bottles and in my opinion are 90 + all day long, I have 5 bottles of the 18 year old and I don't have near enough of this bottle, and the 15 year old I have 3 bottles and it will deeply saden me when there gone, I'm waiting on the 2019 release, these are bottles of none Billy walker blend, I wish I had the billy walker version of this, but the Sara bures version is very good, I just wish I could find other versions of this scotch because it is spectacular whiskey !!!
15:15 Glendronach 12 vs Macallan 12 I'd go with Glendronach all day. I get my Glendronach 12 for under $50 a bottle and Macallan, while very good, is always over $75-$80 for their 12 sherry cask. I like having it in my collection but would drink Glendronach all day over it.
Great video in a big fan of macallan anything. However I've had this 15 year and you are right for the money one of the quality whiskey out there. I can only hope I can try a 21.
Good video. Too bad everyone loves GD so the prices for the SCs went through the roof. Btw the distillery was reopened in 2002 - the wiki entry with 2001 isn't correct. 2002 is mentioned on the GD site + on German Wikipedia
As you said, according to the charts the GD 18 and 15 here in the video are same age of 20 years yet the 18 tastes older according to the notes so mybe we are not getting the full picture of the age of the whiskeys from Glendronach?
Found a half bottle of Macallan 12 Sherry- red box. Cant wait to compare it to the Glendronach 12. If it's anything like the black box 12, I def prefer GlenD
The Glendro 12 is still under $80 at the LCBO and cheaper everywhere else. Not north of $90 yet. Still have a closed 15/2015 , I had about 6 of them at 1 point, cleaned out New Brunswick a couple years ago at $90 each CAD. I like the Great video as usual I love the range as well, although I just traded one of my Allardice's again. Thanks for getting my bottle safely to me through Rob, much appreciated.
@@SippersSocialClub Total Wine prices can be all over the place depending on each store. I have seen the 12 for $39-$59 (39 in the wealthiest area go figure) within 60 miles of each other. I have learned to check on the website, changing the store location to compare prices. Also they all stock differently only one of the five I shop at has Arran 14 and another has Glencadam 10 and yet another has Glengoyne Cask strength. Cheers
I only currently have a bottle of the 18yo in my collection after advice to buy one. Haven't tried it yet but looking forward to it. Just checked the bottle and it is 2018 so has the extra years that I didn't even know about until your review. Will now definitely pass on getting the 21yo and wish I'd bought more 18's. Will try to find some more 18's and old 15's now before it's too late. Edit: just checked and now can't seem to find the 18yo anywhere in Australia. And only the new 15yo. That boat might have sailed..
Commenting late here. Had 12-15-18 Great stuff. Will try to get a bottle of the 2022 21 if I can (have a 2019 18). In California the 12 is in Costco for $37 all the time and the state liquor law makes them sell to everyone 👍 gota love it ! Cheers Jeremy
Love these core range reviews, prices look to be way cheaper in California compare to other places I guess! GlenDronach 12 : 42$ GlenDronach 15 : 77$ GlenDronach 18 : 150$ GlenDronach 21 : 200$ Have you had Kingsman 1989 edition, I’m might pull the trigger and get it soon?
Good Review. The superstore liquor store has the 12 for 50CAD but it's always out of stock, I keep checking in hoping they have some. Will also get the 15 when it shows up on shelves again. The 18 is the only one I tried, you can't get them anywhere in Alberta, the only one I was able to find this year I had to get couriered to me from Jasper.
@@SippersSocialClub In Alberta? Yup.... I traveled far and wide, went to every mom & pop shop in Edmonton and area. Looked at everything online. One store in Jasper was the only place I've ever seen a bottle of the 18. Happy with my 2018 version though (Probably the oldest it will get). Earlier in the year some stores had the empty spots on the shelves for where it used to be, but that was as close as I found to one in the central area. I have a question though. I'm not as much a fan of the Glengoyne 18. I found that their stuff has a distinct "Sourness" to the Sherry flavor. I'm told that Oloroso is often slightly sour where as PX is just sweet. I like the Glendronach 18's more dry flavor too it and mine definitely lacks the sourness of the Glengoynes. Is there anything you would recommend or suggest I stay away from if I'm not looking for that slight sourness of the Glengoyne? It's interesting because both Glengoyne and Glendronach 18 are pure Oloroso, I just found the latter had less bite to it. Maybe I'm tasting something else from the barrel with the Glengoynes?
@@zachburns8214 Interesting..., im not the biggest Glengoyne 18 fan either, although I didn't get the sour note you speak of. Its also been a while since ive had it.
They might as well have put 2000 yr juice in the 18 because here in Ontario we aren't getting any, there is a photo of the bottle on the LCBO site however 0 in stock for all of Ontario ( typical). SAQ in Quebec get's a few in occasionally however they sell out immediately, There are also none in Calgary at the online stores. I luckily managed 2 bottles of the 21 earlier this year from SAQ for $202 all in ( great price ) and they are now gone from there also. Incidentally if you paid 100 GBP for the Parliament 21 then that was about the same as you paid for the Allardice ($175 Canadian ) which you bumped up 1.5 points for value so shouldn't you have done even better for the Parliament on value? Nice video, Cheers
I should have been more forthcoming. I paid £100 for the 21, plus 10% commission to the auction house plus about £15-20 shipping. So in actuality £130 or about $210 cad. For value I added to the 15 +1.5, the 18+1 and the 21 +0 which I stand by.
Great core range. Currently have open GD12/2013, 15/2015, 18/2017. The 15 is the star I must say, but that older 12 stands up well, shame it’s bottled at 43%. Any thoughts on what the money year is for the 21 yo?
Great channel and video Jeremy! I like your review format. Very interesting opinions of yours. I have only tried the 12 bottled at 2013 and the 15 bottled at 2014 only Oloroso Sherry. And this last one it's fantastic, luckily I have a back up of two of them. Cheers!
Ooo little hard on the 12. I’d have to say this and Bunnahabhain 12 are my favourite sherried 12s. But I guess if you don’t like the oaky note, then I get where you’re coming from. Cheers.
Great comparison. Probably makes more sense to review the current iteration of the 15yo as the older ones are just so unobtainable. I’m personally a much bigger fan of the 18yo than the 21yo as it’s just a little too sweet for me. The secret of the 18yo is out (perhaps thanks to all the sharing of that darn chart!) so I cleaned out one store in Alberta back in January and it doesn’t seem like anyone has had it on the shelves ever since there.
I agree, but I'm not going to purchase a new 15 as I've heard quality is not as good. Plus I have a few old one bunkered. So you were the one who scooped all the 18s up eh? Lol
I’m on a cruise through your back catalogue. I like woody flavours, so the oak ones might not be an issue for me. Is it that you don’t generally love an oak note, or that it doesn’t really match with the other flavours? I’m getting the feeling from your tasting notes that it kind of clashes with all those other fruity elements.
Awesome comparisons, Jeremy. I only have the 12 and 18, which are wonderful in different ways. The 12 is light and fruity with decent sherry notes, whereas the 18 is a sherry bomb with much darker notes. I prefer the Glendronach to the Mac 12 sherry, but need to blind test that. #letsgopalate x5
and what I mean is that I don't see where it says bottled in 2015. I do faintly see a November 2019 but its etched on the bottle an almost impossible to find. it's not on the label or the cannister.
i see a faint etching on the glass part near the bottom of the bottle that says 2019 and a month and date, but its almost impossible to notice. there is nothing on the label or cannister that says 2015.
Pricing is nuts. In my state in the USA, Pennsylvania, Glendronach 12 is $57. Macallan 12 is $67. I prefer the Glendronach. We don't have the the Glendronach 15. The 18 is $138. Not sure that ive seen the 21 either. I like the 12 and 18. My 18 was bottled in 2016. Edit - i just checked the PA website. We can special order the 21 for $219.
@Carl, if you are close to NJ then you can find the 15 in some stores or someone that could order it for you which I periodically do. The 21 is expensive at the state store and I generally steer away from buying anything over $125 or $130.
@@leroyprice3168 - i am reasonably close to Jersey and i have a friend that is frequently in NJ for work. He's picked up a few things for me. I'll ask him to look for the 15 the next time he's there. Thanks.
Great vid man! What's your take on the 8yr Hielan? Although it's much younger than the rest of them, I commend them putting an age statement on a younger scotch and bumping up the ABV to 46%.
Good question. It would depend on the year / cask for the Kavalan as they are all slightly different. The S06 Sherries are very very good, i'd score them higher (90 or 91). The S10 sherries however I do not like as much and would probably score in the 85 range.
Got a 2018 bottling of the Glendronach 18 and an s12 Kavalan Solist Cherry. Like the Kavalan better. Also the Glengoyne 21 I tasted was slightly better than the Allardice in my opinion. Still very good dram.
Sippers Social Club Great. What’s the difference between the American and European released because I saw a big difference in price? The 750ml is more expensive than the 700ml while both were bottled the same year. Cheers!
I have 2 bottles of Glendronach 18 yrs (one bottle on 2014) (one didn't show bottled date but the shop owner said it was bought on 2018) I read a lot of comments metion the company used older whiskey on Glendronach 18 yrs, I wounder which bottle should I tried first, the 2014 or the undated one?
So the 15yr old revival was discontinued and came back in 2018 with a recipe change ie from oloroso to px + oloroso. For some reason I have the feeling that the same will happen with the 18yr allardice. If this happens then the entire core range will be px + oloroso. Your thoughts?
Don't know how true this is but I've heard that early to mid 2020 18s are also use the older casks due to the 6 month marrying time when they water down the whisky to 46%
I have been thinking again about the whisky age story. If they have 23 year old whisky to put in 18 year bottles. Why would they be putting older whisky in the 21 bottle? Just put in 23 year old.
If you look at the chart (link in description), in 2018 they would use all 23 year old whisky in both the 18 and 21. In 2019 24 year old whisky in both.
@@SippersSocialClub Ah yes I wasn't really paying attention was I. I have an 18 with 22 year old whisky and a 21 with 21 year old whisky. Must do a comparison once he 21 is opened.
The old 15 is def the best in the range and used to be my daily sipper. Unfortunately I did not stock up and the new one is no where close to that quality. They def used their best casks for that expression and it was sort of a secret for some years until everyone else caught on. I know they are going up in age but not sure about quality. I recently ordered a 21 that was bottled in 2019 and it has the same color as the 12 you have there. Very strange because the 21 is known for the super dark, rich sherry notes. Haven't tried it yet though to know the quality diff.
Yeah, the new 15s were never going to match the quality of the old ones. Shame cause my bottle is great. A lot of people don't like Rachel Barrie. What are your thoughts?
@@SippersSocialClub I am seeing some good things still like that grandeur and the current batch is good too. The single casks are not as good as they used to be for the most part but that was to be expected. They used those to come back strong and they have. Hard for her to impress after so many great bottlings came out when they had all those casks to chose from.
Hi! Jeremy. I think you have added too much weight to the value score, making a good spirit underrated. My suggestion is: you can score the spirit on its own taste, and list the price you paid for the spirit. So that people in the other places who have a different price for the spirit can judge it by themselves. After all, thanks for the parallel comparison.
Although your review has a high production-quality and is one of the better ones out here, it is mute. Why even review whiskies that are long gone, when you try the core range? Compare the current bottlings, don't cherry-pick all kinds of vintages, the scores makes no sense, compared to what you can actually get hold of.
We did a blind tasting at my pub between the Macallan 12, Glenfarclas 12, Aberloour 12 and GlenDronach 12 with a panel of 21. The GlenDronach and Glenfarclas were neck and neck, the Aberlour was not too far behind... and The Macallan was a good deal behind. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
I fully agree that the Macallan 12 does not live up to the hype.
@@bendakstarkiller1270 Seconded. The 18 is pretty good but the price is ridiculous. I'd rather buy Hennessy XO if I'm going to drop that much on a bottle. The GlenDronach 12 has a lot of character that lends to exploring the scotch. Macallan 12 is pretty one note and thin with a weird medicinal finish. I'd rather drink a Sheildag 18 which is the same price.
macallan 12 sherry oak? cause the new version with 40% is complete trash
@@janjonasschneider4743 yes, the Sherry Oak. Macallan has fallen far indeed, overall. Not just the 12, but across the board.
@@jonnyodde2363 Well, to each their own. I like the Macallan 12 sherry cask. But I suppose I will find something better.
What I really respect about your reviews is that you get straight to the point & don't beat around the bush. Great review. Glendronach is my favourite single malt aged scotch whisky. All the best & stay safe.
Thanks so much, cheers!
The Grandeur retails for around $700. Also, the Glendronach website says they re-opened in 2002 (spring). Since the SWA rules require a full year for age statements,
any 18's with a discharge date before spring 2020 will have the added age. So the current 18's ($145 - Oregon) in my area have a 2019 discharge date which means at least 23 yr old whisky. Cheers!
Great video brother. The 12 used to say on the bottle combination of Oloroso and Px.
Yeah, I realized after it was a mix of both when I checked their website
I just revisited the Macallan 12 and was disappointed. It tasted young, sharp and was a little hot, so the Glendronach 12 is much better IMO. I've bought 5 bottles of the old GD 15 for $80 and its great. I just had 2 pours of the new GD 15 and I was surprised how good it was, especially the 2nd glass. Its $63 at Total Wine. I've had a bottle of the GD 18 that was a 2015 version so 20 years and it was great. Its $160 at Total Wine. I've also had a bottle of the GD 21 for about $200 and was disappointed. It was actually to spicy/hot not what I was expecting. Great review on the GD.
I'm on my 3rd bottle of the GlenDronach 12. Still one of my favorite 12ys. Had the pleasure of tasting both the 15 and the 18 today (both bottled unchillfiltered before 2021).
The 15 is a treat... Even if you just had the 12, you can definitely tell it's the glendronach character, just much more intense. Moving up to the 18 we go even darker and intensity is cranked up to 11. I loved the 15 but the 18 may have been the best whisky I've ever tasted so far. Amazing.
Glendronach is my #1 so it's obvious where I stand, LOL. I'd go with Glendronach for the 15, 18, 21 but I'd take the Mac 12. The Macs prices goes way up after the 12 so I'd skip those because of cost vs. value and grab the Classic Cut or Edition Series. Cheers
I've got several bottles each of the Glendronach 12, 15, 18 and 21 and a single cask bottling of their 28 year Sherry Puncheon bottled at 52.5% ABV. I love me some Glendronach! Maybe it's just their newer stuff but I think the 15 year is a good step up from the 12 but the 18 and 21 are just on another level. 15 is fantastic for the price and what you get.
Glendronach & The Dalmore are becoming my favorite distillery's 😎
Nice review Jeremy! I ve done the 15 (older 2014) vs 18, vs 21 blind many times and have always picked the 15 as the winner. So I'd probably say for me older 15>21>18>12. The new 15yr is more like the newer 12yr bottlings. It's lighter in sherry flavor. It's brighter and I get a lot more vanilla on it. It's almost got a 15yr Mac F.O. flavor going on. It's good but different for sure. Yes the Allardice is still being bottled. There is a confirmed 2019/04/08 bottle code . So if the distillery closed on 2-26-96. then it would make that 18yr at least 23yrs 1mo and 16 days old lol. The 18yr is by far the best value imo right now. Plus it's still 100% oloroso casks and cheap! I also ordered a couple 2018 Parliaments and they are indeed a few shades lighter as mentioned in MR's comment. I have not opened them yet so can't speak to the quality or flavor profile. I haven't done the Mac 12 vs Glendro 12 side by side but it would be a fun one to do. Cheers!
Great stuff Travis. Do you think some refill casks are being used in the newer 21s?
@@SippersSocialClub they have to be using more refill and 2nd fills in the core range now. It seems that all the bottlings are getting lighter and lighter except for the single cask releases which are usually very dark.
Subscribed. Really like the core range series. Great work, brother.
Welcome aboard!
My compliments for showing that scematic about the age.
Not everybody knows about that.
Now do one in 2021 with 2019 -2020 bottles
I guarentee you will get a diffrent result.
For sure. The newer 15s are not quite the same, still decent, but clearly not as good.
As a bourbon fan, I keep very few bottles of Scotch on my shelf. Glendronach is one of my few go-to Scotch brands (mainly due to their natural color commitment, and the fact that I'm a Brown Foreman shareholder:). I've tried their 12, 15, 18 and 21 year offerings, and the 15-Year is the best, in terms of taste and value - in my opinion).
Picked up a 15 yr old revival while in Edinburgh for my honeymoon. Brought it back to Ontario. Was really excited and had been looking for it for a handful of years after ralfys review. This is a great whisky. However, I didn't realize how old the whisky was in the older bottles. This one is nice but very, very spicy. Not what I expected. Definitely 15 yrs and not a day older. Tastes more like a 10 yr old at 46%. After revisiting it a handful of times now it has cooled off a bit. Still happy I got my hands on a bottle finally. Cheers.
I still haven't tried the new Revivals yet, looking forward to it though. Cheers
Great video. Glendronach was the first distillery that really got me on the whisky trail. I have had multiple bottles of all of these (bar the 15) and the 18 is probably still my favourite whisky to date.
I’m a bit put off the Macallan 12 as it’s bottles at 40% over here in New Zealand. Not sure how I can really enjoy it.
Yeah, it's annoying that it's 43% in America and 40% everywhere else. Plus it's $50-60 US, and probably a lot more everywhere else as well
Macallan is overrated. 43% chill filtered doesn't impress me. Have you tried Springbank 15? I tried it at the same time as the Allardice 18 and favoured the Springbank. I also recommend GlenAllachie 12 if you can find it.
@@TheParadigmShiftTV I don't think the Mac12 is overrated when you're paying $60 or less for it. I don't feel like the chill filtration takes anything away. The Gronach 12 tastes thinner to me. To each their own. I want to do a head to head soon. Yes, love Springbank, one of my favorite distilleries. The 2019 21yr is amazing stuff. Cheers!
Mac12 ranges from 100 to 135 USD in my location. I can buy the Glendronach Allardice for less so I don’t think I’ll be picking up the Mac12 anytime soon.
The glendronach's 15 and 18 year old scotch are in my favorite scotch's of the 100 + bottles and in my opinion are 90 + all day long, I have 5 bottles of the 18 year old and I don't have near enough of this bottle, and the 15 year old I have 3 bottles and it will deeply saden me when there gone, I'm waiting on the 2019 release, these are bottles of none Billy walker blend, I wish I had the billy walker version of this, but the Sara bures version is very good, I just wish I could find other versions of this scotch because it is spectacular whiskey !!!
They really did them well. Hopefully quality keeps up when all these older stocks are used up, cheers :)
Prices in Belgium:
12yr: €37,95 (57,97 CAD)
15yr: €80,50 (122,96 CAD)
18yr: €99,95 (152,66 CAD)
21yr: €114,95 (175,59 CAD)
Which one(s) do you recommend picking up?
If you're only getting one, go for the 18
Love this video man, Glendronach are such a great Distillery 👌
Well done bud. Really enjoyed hearing your notes.
Thanks, cheers man
love me some Glendronach !
I have one of these...and I love it. I wish I had all of them. Maybe someday.
15:15 Glendronach 12 vs Macallan 12 I'd go with Glendronach all day. I get my Glendronach 12 for under $50 a bottle and Macallan, while very good, is always over $75-$80 for their 12 sherry cask. I like having it in my collection but would drink Glendronach all day over it.
Great job, love your reviews!
Thanks, cheers!
Great video in a big fan of macallan anything. However I've had this 15 year and you are right for the money one of the quality whiskey out there. I can only hope I can try a 21.
Nice to see all 4 together. Slainte'....................What auctions would you recommend? I have never tried one before.
Well done Jeremy. I was lucky enough to find a 2015 / 15 year old at the SAQ last Christmas. Still got some left.
Nice score!
How much was is?
@@SippersSocialClub $108. It was a return ... idiot!
@@gohabs365 Unreal!
Good video. Too bad everyone loves GD so the prices for the SCs went through the roof. Btw the distillery was reopened in 2002 - the wiki entry with 2001 isn't correct. 2002 is mentioned on the GD site + on German Wikipedia
As you said, according to the charts the GD 18 and 15 here in the video are same age of 20 years yet the 18 tastes older according to the notes so mybe we are not getting the full picture of the age of the whiskeys from Glendronach?
Found a half bottle of Macallan 12 Sherry- red box. Cant wait to compare it to the Glendronach 12. If it's anything like the black box 12, I def prefer GlenD
The Glendro 12 is still under $80 at the LCBO and cheaper everywhere else. Not north of $90 yet.
Still have a closed 15/2015 , I had about 6 of them at 1 point, cleaned out New Brunswick a couple years ago at $90 each CAD.
I like the
Great video as usual
I love the range as well, although I just traded one of my Allardice's again.
Thanks for getting my bottle safely to me through Rob, much appreciated.
cheers Peter!
i can get the glendronach 12 for 51 bux
I have the 2020 15 year, honestly it is pretty decent but Apparently the older ones are even better?
Glendronach 12 is around $45 here in California, $38 at some Costcos.
Thats a great price. Total Wine has it for $69.99 and that's one spot I usually shop when Im in the States.
@@SippersSocialClub Total Wine prices can be all over the place depending on each store. I have seen the 12 for $39-$59 (39 in the wealthiest area go figure) within 60 miles of each other. I have learned to check on the website, changing the store location to compare prices. Also they all stock differently only one of the five I shop at has Arran 14 and another has Glencadam 10 and yet another has Glengoyne Cask strength. Cheers
@@SippersSocialClub interesting. I just checked and the Total Wine near me has it for $38.
@@dramdude9502 the Florida location is 69.99 just checked. That's insane
I only currently have a bottle of the 18yo in my collection after advice to buy one. Haven't tried it yet but looking forward to it. Just checked the bottle and it is 2018 so has the extra years that I didn't even know about until your review. Will now definitely pass on getting the 21yo and wish I'd bought more 18's. Will try to find some more 18's and old 15's now before it's too late. Edit: just checked and now can't seem to find the 18yo anywhere in Australia. And only the new 15yo. That boat might have sailed..
Keep looking for the 2019 Allardice. They should still be around. The older 15's are most likely all gone now though.
Commenting late here. Had 12-15-18 Great stuff. Will try to get a bottle of the 2022 21 if I can (have a 2019 18). In California the 12 is in Costco for $37 all the time and the state liquor law makes them sell to everyone 👍 gota love it ! Cheers Jeremy
$37 is without question the cheapest price in the world, nice!
$37 for GD 12 and the weather maybe the only two things good about CA.
Love these core range reviews,
prices look to be way cheaper in California compare to other places I guess!
GlenDronach 12 : 42$
GlenDronach 15 : 77$
GlenDronach 18 : 150$
GlenDronach 21 : 200$
Have you had Kingsman 1989 edition, I’m might pull the trigger and get it soon?
I have not, but the Grandeur batch 8, 9, and 10 were all excellent pours!
the problem with Macallan 12 is we cant get the sherry cask in Canada -.- (or at least Quebec and Ontario)
yeah, unfortunately they are only released in the US (at 43%)
Hello! One quick question for Glendronach 21. Does it worth 250€? Because according to your chart in 2022 it would be 27y old
Good Review. The superstore liquor store has the 12 for 50CAD but it's always out of stock, I keep checking in hoping they have some. Will also get the 15 when it shows up on shelves again. The 18 is the only one I tried, you can't get them anywhere in Alberta, the only one I was able to find this year I had to get couriered to me from Jasper.
$50 cad is an outstanding price. I'd be adding value points at that price point for sure. The 18 was on shelves less than a year ago. All gone now?
@@SippersSocialClub In Alberta? Yup.... I traveled far and wide, went to every mom & pop shop in Edmonton and area. Looked at everything online. One store in Jasper was the only place I've ever seen a bottle of the 18. Happy with my 2018 version though (Probably the oldest it will get). Earlier in the year some stores had the empty spots on the shelves for where it used to be, but that was as close as I found to one in the central area.
I have a question though. I'm not as much a fan of the Glengoyne 18. I found that their stuff has a distinct "Sourness" to the Sherry flavor. I'm told that Oloroso is often slightly sour where as PX is just sweet. I like the Glendronach 18's more dry flavor too it and mine definitely lacks the sourness of the Glengoynes.
Is there anything you would recommend or suggest I stay away from if I'm not looking for that slight sourness of the Glengoyne? It's interesting because both Glengoyne and Glendronach 18 are pure Oloroso, I just found the latter had less bite to it. Maybe I'm tasting something else from the barrel with the Glengoynes?
@@zachburns8214 Interesting..., im not the biggest Glengoyne 18 fan either, although I didn't get the sour note you speak of. Its also been a while since ive had it.
They might as well have put 2000 yr juice in the 18 because here in Ontario we aren't getting any, there is a photo of the bottle on the LCBO site however 0 in stock for all of Ontario ( typical). SAQ in Quebec get's a few in occasionally however they sell out immediately, There are also none in Calgary at the online stores. I luckily managed 2 bottles of the 21 earlier this year from SAQ for $202 all in ( great price ) and they are now gone from there also. Incidentally if you paid 100 GBP for the Parliament 21 then that was about the same as you paid for the Allardice ($175 Canadian ) which you bumped up 1.5 points for value so shouldn't you have done even better for the Parliament on value? Nice video, Cheers
I should have been more forthcoming. I paid £100 for the 21, plus 10% commission to the auction house plus about £15-20 shipping. So in actuality £130 or about $210 cad. For value I added to the 15 +1.5, the 18+1 and the 21 +0 which I stand by.
Great core range. Currently have open GD12/2013, 15/2015, 18/2017. The 15 is the star I must say, but that older 12 stands up well, shame it’s bottled at 43%. Any thoughts on what the money year is for the 21 yo?
According to the chart it will be 2022. But they may not release a 21 that year. Just as I dont think they released an 18 this year.
Great review Jeremy. 21 is a sherry bomb, one of my favourites
Thanks, cheers!
Great channel and video Jeremy! I like your review format. Very interesting opinions of yours. I have only tried the 12 bottled at 2013 and the 15 bottled at 2014 only Oloroso Sherry. And this last one it's fantastic, luckily I have a back up of two of them. Cheers!
Cheers man! The 15 is great. You tried the new one?
Sippers Social Club not yet, but it would be nice to compare them.
Damn. You Canadians get reamed. The 12 year is currently going for $42.99 at my shop here in CA.
Ooo little hard on the 12. I’d have to say this and Bunnahabhain 12 are my favourite sherried 12s. But I guess if you don’t like the oaky note, then I get where you’re coming from. Cheers.
Great comparison. Probably makes more sense to review the current iteration of the 15yo as the older ones are just so unobtainable. I’m personally a much bigger fan of the 18yo than the 21yo as it’s just a little too sweet for me. The secret of the 18yo is out (perhaps thanks to all the sharing of that darn chart!) so I cleaned out one store in Alberta back in January and it doesn’t seem like anyone has had it on the shelves ever since there.
I agree, but I'm not going to purchase a new 15 as I've heard quality is not as good. Plus I have a few old one bunkered. So you were the one who scooped all the 18s up eh? Lol
Sippers Social Club yoink! Sorry, not sorry
I’m on a cruise through your back catalogue. I like woody flavours, so the oak ones might not be an issue for me. Is it that you don’t generally love an oak note, or that it doesn’t really match with the other flavours? I’m getting the feeling from your tasting notes that it kind of clashes with all those other fruity elements.
12 yo is $54, 15 yo is $90 and 18 is $160, haven’t seen 21, bought it in Canada
Awesome comparisons, Jeremy. I only have the 12 and 18, which are wonderful in different ways. The 12 is light and fruity with decent sherry notes, whereas the 18 is a sherry bomb with much darker notes. I prefer the Glendronach to the Mac 12 sherry, but need to blind test that. #letsgopalate x5
5X !!! LETS GO PALATE!
I just bought a 15 an hour ago. was the last one on the shelf. how do I tell if it is a 20 year or not? thanks. also great video.
and what I mean is that I don't see where it says bottled in 2015. I do faintly see a November 2019 but its etched on the bottle an almost impossible to find. it's not on the label or the cannister.
i see a faint etching on the glass part near the bottom of the bottle that says 2019 and a month and date, but its almost impossible to notice. there is nothing on the label or cannister that says 2015.
@@shenkel869 If it says 2019 then it was bottled in 2019, and Its the newer release.
What about Glendronach 1993 25yo Master Vintage? Fairly expensive, I know, but I wonder if it's as extraordinary as promoted…
Pricing is nuts. In my state in the USA, Pennsylvania, Glendronach 12 is $57. Macallan 12 is $67. I prefer the Glendronach. We don't have the the Glendronach 15. The 18 is $138. Not sure that ive seen the 21 either. I like the 12 and 18. My 18 was bottled in 2016. Edit - i just checked the PA website. We can special order the 21 for $219.
Can you not just order it online?
@Carl, if you are close to NJ then you can find the 15 in some stores or someone that could order it for you which I periodically do. The 21 is expensive at the state store and I generally steer away from buying anything over $125 or $130.
@@simonwinterstein348 - nope. PA is state controlled. We cannot have whiskey shipped here. We need to buy through the state.
@@leroyprice3168 - i am reasonably close to Jersey and i have a friend that is frequently in NJ for work. He's picked up a few things for me. I'll ask him to look for the 15 the next time he's there. Thanks.
@@carlh4350 The land of the free...
My 21 years is 2020, i got 25 year juice
Great vid man! What's your take on the 8yr Hielan? Although it's much younger than the rest of them, I commend them putting an age statement on a younger scotch and bumping up the ABV to 46%.
Only tired a small sample once, I thought it was decent
Great video. Where did you get those glasses?
You can buy them at sipperssocialclub.com :)
How would you compare the Glendronach 18 vs Kavalan Solist Sherry?
Good question. It would depend on the year / cask for the Kavalan as they are all slightly different. The S06 Sherries are very very good, i'd score them higher (90 or 91). The S10 sherries however I do not like as much and would probably score in the 85 range.
Got a 2018 bottling of the Glendronach 18 and an s12 Kavalan Solist Cherry. Like the Kavalan better. Also the Glengoyne 21 I tasted was slightly better than the Allardice in my opinion. Still very good dram.
I have a 2019 alldarice.
Great video and thanks for the info. Does this chart applies for the 70cl bottles sold in Europe?
Thanks cheers! Yes, it does
Sippers Social Club Great. What’s the difference between the American and European released because I saw a big difference in price? The 750ml is more expensive than the 700ml while both were bottled the same year. Cheers!
@@hgbrospictures6269 As far as the whisky, I can only assume it's the same stuff. Pricing varies in different markets
I am collecting whisky ( don't drink at all) and I am so lucky to have the 15, 18 & 21 in my Collection. Nice job 🇷🇴
I have 2 bottles of Glendronach 18 yrs (one bottle on 2014) (one didn't show bottled date but the shop owner said it was bought on 2018)
I read a lot of comments metion the company used older whiskey on Glendronach 18 yrs, I wounder which bottle should I tried first, the 2014 or the undated one?
im sure both are great, cheers :)
@@SippersSocialClub Thank you. XD
So the 15yr old revival was discontinued and came back in 2018 with a recipe change ie from oloroso to px + oloroso.
For some reason I have the feeling that the same will happen with the 18yr allardice.
If this happens then the entire core range will be px + oloroso.
Your thoughts?
I think that is a strong possibility
So as long as you enjoying it, stocking up on the current Allardice irregardless of when it has been bottled is actually a good idea.
For 18yr bottles, bottled in 2019, can we still almost certainly say that they belong to pre-closure time?
Yes
Don't know how true this is but I've heard that early to mid 2020 18s are also use the older casks due to the 6 month marrying time when they water down the whisky to 46%
Glendronach 12 is 79 at LCBO. Bring that rating back up! :p
was it more a one point in time?
@@SippersSocialClub not that I know... But I can't say for sure. I'd say a year at that price now?
Why do you keep a coin on top of the whisky glass?
Its to prevent the whisky from over-oxidising
Would a Glendronach 21 bottled in 2015, according to the etching on the back of the bottle, be sought after?
I don't think that vintage is anymore valuable than other 21s
What year/years should I look for?
@@joesmith-th3jq 15 year olds 2017 or younger. 18 year olds 2019 or younger
@@joesmith-th3jq 12 year olds 2013 or younger
Thanks!
So you think the 15 year for less than 100 dollars US is worth it?
The old 15s yes. Can't speak to the newer 2018 bottling. But I've heard the quality is not as good.
@@SippersSocialClub could you point me to a reliable source to purchase it? Or should I just call around my local stores?
I have been thinking again about the whisky age story. If they have 23 year old whisky to put in 18 year bottles. Why would they be putting older whisky in the 21 bottle? Just put in 23 year old.
If you look at the chart (link in description), in 2018 they would use all 23 year old whisky in both the 18 and 21. In 2019 24 year old whisky in both.
@@SippersSocialClub Ah yes I wasn't really paying attention was I. I have an 18 with 22 year old whisky and a 21 with 21 year old whisky. Must do a comparison once he 21 is opened.
@@WhiskyMystery Also the 18 is oloroso only and the 21 is oloroso and PX. Would be interested to do side by side with the 2019s
Crushed it.
Thanks, cheers!
Macallan 12 sherry better than GD 12? Not so sure about it... GD 12 is unmistakably recognized.
Maybe not the current bottling of Mac12, but the old label without a doubt
@@SippersSocialClub I misunderstood you then. I haven't had a chance to try the old bottling of Mac12.
15 and 18 same casks? This is wrong. 15 - oloroso and PX casks. 18 only oloroso cask.
The newer 15's are a mix. The older ones here not.
@@SippersSocialClub I might have missed your comment in regards to the older ones that you are reviewing...
@@mariodervishi no worries. Yeah, the older 15s are all Oloroso, and the newer ones (2019) are Oloroso and PX.
The old 15 is def the best in the range and used to be my daily sipper. Unfortunately I did not stock up and the new one is no where close to that quality. They def used their best casks for that expression and it was sort of a secret for some years until everyone else caught on.
I know they are going up in age but not sure about quality. I recently ordered a 21 that was bottled in 2019 and it has the same color as the 12 you have there. Very strange because the 21 is known for the super dark, rich sherry notes. Haven't tried it yet though to know the quality diff.
Yeah, the new 15s were never going to match the quality of the old ones. Shame cause my bottle is great. A lot of people don't like Rachel Barrie. What are your thoughts?
@@SippersSocialClub I am seeing some good things still like that grandeur and the current batch is good too.
The single casks are not as good as they used to be for the most part but that was to be expected. They used those to come back strong and they have.
Hard for her to impress after so many great bottlings came out when they had all those casks to chose from.
Hi! Jeremy. I think you have added too much weight to the value score, making a good spirit underrated. My suggestion is: you can score the spirit on its own taste, and list the price you paid for the spirit. So that people in the other places who have a different price for the spirit can judge it by themselves. After all, thanks for the parallel comparison.
Isn't that what I did?
Mcallan 12 sherry is overatted as hell. Glendronach 12 is better by far
Depends if you talking new Mac12 or older Mac12
A little bit ambarassing but the Glendronach whisky does not work for me, tried all four and no, not my cup of tea😬
To each their own, cheers
Do you prefer peat?
@@IkenFister yes i do prefer peat but I also love, Glenmorangie, BenRiach and Glenallachie😋😋
Hmmmm so yummy.... batch 10?
B9
Sippers Social Club no I meant we buying batch 10? :)
@@bbjap5956 lol, we should
Good video though I don’t like how you try to act hard and call whiskey “juice”.
Haha, I assure you I'm hard AF
Although your review has a high production-quality and is one of the better ones out here, it is mute.
Why even review whiskies that are long gone, when you try the core range?
Compare the current bottlings, don't cherry-pick all kinds of vintages, the scores makes no sense, compared to what you can actually get hold of.
These were the bottles I had at the time. If you wish to purchase all the 2020 releases and send them my way, I'd be happy to review them.