Specialised work places and data centres have already shifted to ARM . x86 can only survive if intel survives . If intel chip making fails there is no reason to support x86
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy doubt it, reason data centers might use ARM is its efficiency in non complex workloads. Arm I believe is great for some data centres, office computers/laptops and phones/tablets while anything that might have more complex tasks or need to have good compatibility (x86 is pretty much has backwards compatibility the way back to the very early days). Also 1 thing worth noting, Intel has tried to change architecture before with itanium but it was a disaster and the project was discontinued (tho this architecture wasnt great so makes sense it failed)
It's not as bad as other AI videos. I allready knew what x86/Arm was and this is no cheaply made AI video the voice sure but the script he made is accurate and okay. As much as I love AI people are laziliy using it to make slug content that has no meaning, ever seen those ask a questions videos with an ai response to question. That is more pointless than eating a small rock every day it's what google recommends anyways.
Honestly, the script also feels a bit AI-y to me: It's well-worded, but I would have preferred if you went more into detail. It's a very general overview of the topic, maybe that's just how you intended it. But I would have liked a little more thorough explanation of what the architectures do differently, and more background explanation, for example: - What is an architecture? - Where are the instructions for the processor coming from? (Example: Which steps does a command take to get from user application to processor instructions?) - Where does compatibility come into play? (Example: Are some programs only compatible with one architecture? What about emulation layer?) Visually, the slideshow style looks nice in general, but you could've put some visuals better fitting the topic in some places: At 1:29 you show this interesting overview graphic of x86 instruction sets while talking about the difference to ARM. But you don't show a similar graphic for ARM instruction sets. You could've done a side by side comparison there. The video is fine overall. But because the information and the video cut are quite plain and the voice is TTS, it feels like AI-content to me, sorry if it really isn't. Hopefully I didn't write all of this for a bot ;D
There's a misconception. x86 isn't inherently less power efficient, it's less CPU die efficient (requires a bigger chip). The reason Apple's chips were cooler was solely due to being made on TSMC's better fabs. Make an Intel CPU at TSMC is going to run just as cool.
I think Arm will become a major player in high performance desktops in the future, especially seeing every major OS already supports it (Windows, Linux etc.). Even x86 CPUs today breakdown the cisc instructions down to simpler instructions before executing the code. So even Intel is showing that risc is the more performant of the two. RISC doesn't need to do this and hence will have the edge in the future. We just need to see more companies produce higher powered, more performant, but still high efficiency risc CPUs. But then there's also risc-v, which is also promising and cheaper (royalty free) than both arm and x86. The future is looking great!
It's quite simple: since processors are now present in numerous devices beyond "traditional computers", ARM will win this race, for the sake of energy efficiency.
i have a high performance setup on my computer... and still im hyped of ARM finally arriving in a more serious way in the computer market, phones never stopped to impress me in many ways, like... just watching alien asolation, re7, 8 and 4 remake is impressive, and a potential market for pc gaming in the future, and the new imacs are really powerful
The tradeoffs are not inherent in the Linux code so much as the compiler that is used, if I understand correctly The compiler outputs the instruction set opcodes, i.e. arm vs x86 I dont know why, but some big companies don't support cross-compiling their products which is crazy to be cause I don't fully understand why. But it shows that there's no straightforward way to translate between architectures
Linux runs fine on both architectures. It is really built specifically. You can use something like Gentoo to optimize the very CPU you have. But highly NOT recommended if you don't know what you are doing. That said, NOT all software have ARM version or x86 version.
@@jakobw135 Even a game handheld that runs on linux, have over 20 variants. given that most of them are some form of ARM. but that's the problem with ARM, there are really no standard like x86 / x 86_64. And on those of those, there are RISC V, MIPS, etc.... Your mile may various for each, but Linux general support an ocean of architecture. LOL
Generally speaking, this is faulty information. x86 don't inherently custom more power than ARM. It depended on many things. X86 do have more instructions to decode and predict. But that doesn't equal to needed more power automatically. Out of all things, it would be the manufacturer process that makes the big difference.... I mean of course ARM is going be better on power consumption with 4nm when compared to a 10nm x86.......
Lets switch cpus and generate more e-waste than ever... No thank you. Modern arm is so expensive most people can not afford it. A Broadwell 14+ core will be faster than a new mac and not use much more power and cost 1/10 or less. Rasbery PI was fun when it did not cost a fortune. Doing the exact same workload the difference in power consumption is not much different. Hype to get your cash.
X86 is outdated architecture it's been out since 1970s . Arm is superior but nobody with exception of Apple Qualcomm are developing chips. Think biggest roadblock most applications for business and gaming is x86 . Now that they are starting to make emulation for x86 to be run on Arm might not be much longer before ARM Rand D explodes and we see the industry as a whole shift to Arm.
the industry hasnt shifted to arm because arm is just too specialized, the instruction set is what makes x86 palpable. ARM is fantastic for mobiles and integrated technology, but doesnt come close to bringing what x86 is able to bring.
@@dogsbecuteit's like switching from gas vehicles to electric vehicle. it will take them atleast a decade for half of the world to switch from x86 to ARM.
@@koek4539he aint wrong tho even though hes obviously ragebaiting, arm is pretty trash currently outside of just works, not every programs or games are compatible with ARM currently
ARM is shite. Just keep it to normal x86 where you actually get performance AND compatibility. It also doesn't swallow your RAM memory if you're using graphical stuff.
I think that in the near-future, ARM will be perfect for general-purpose computing, while x86 will be useful for specialized workloads
Specialised work places and data centres have already shifted to ARM . x86 can only survive if intel survives . If intel chip making fails there is no reason to support x86
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy good point!
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy doubt it, reason data centers might use ARM is its efficiency in non complex workloads. Arm I believe is great for some data centres, office computers/laptops and phones/tablets while anything that might have more complex tasks or need to have good compatibility (x86 is pretty much has backwards compatibility the way back to the very early days). Also 1 thing worth noting, Intel has tried to change architecture before with itanium but it was a disaster and the project was discontinued (tho this architecture wasnt great so makes sense it failed)
@@StoicPhilosophyyyyIntel chips are failing, look at their i9
Never ARM is exceptional for heavy computing 😮
This was a very AI generated video
The voice only 🙂
It's not as bad as other AI videos. I allready knew what x86/Arm was and this is no cheaply made AI video the voice sure but the script he made is accurate and okay. As much as I love AI people are laziliy using it to make slug content that has no meaning, ever seen those ask a questions videos with an ai response to question. That is more pointless than eating a small rock every day it's what google recommends anyways.
@@randomtech0 It's actually quite good though. Congrats!
Honestly, the script also feels a bit AI-y to me: It's well-worded, but I would have preferred if you went more into detail.
It's a very general overview of the topic, maybe that's just how you intended it. But I would have liked a little more thorough explanation of what the architectures do differently, and more background explanation, for example:
- What is an architecture?
- Where are the instructions for the processor coming from? (Example: Which steps does a command take to get from user application to processor instructions?)
- Where does compatibility come into play? (Example: Are some programs only compatible with one architecture? What about emulation layer?)
Visually, the slideshow style looks nice in general, but you could've put some visuals better fitting the topic in some places: At 1:29 you show this interesting overview graphic of x86 instruction sets while talking about the difference to ARM. But you don't show a similar graphic for ARM instruction sets. You could've done a side by side comparison there.
The video is fine overall. But because the information and the video cut are quite plain and the voice is TTS, it feels like AI-content to me, sorry if it really isn't. Hopefully I didn't write all of this for a bot ;D
A lot of talking without saying anything
x86 chips should remain on desktops, but for laptops, they should start using ARM chips.
Edit: ARM chips might be the future
arm is 50 years old
ggggh
75e86aeoudgigc
No thanks
whyy
There's a misconception. x86 isn't inherently less power efficient, it's less CPU die efficient (requires a bigger chip). The reason Apple's chips were cooler was solely due to being made on TSMC's better fabs. Make an Intel CPU at TSMC is going to run just as cool.
And we will exactly have that tested with Intels new lunar lake series. lets see how the performance will b
Hello, I'm a future traveller. We have Intel on the same TSMC node and it's not cool.
I think Arm will become a major player in high performance desktops in the future, especially seeing every major OS already supports it (Windows, Linux etc.). Even x86 CPUs today breakdown the cisc instructions down to simpler instructions before executing the code. So even Intel is showing that risc is the more performant of the two. RISC doesn't need to do this and hence will have the edge in the future. We just need to see more companies produce higher powered, more performant, but still high efficiency risc CPUs. But then there's also risc-v, which is also promising and cheaper (royalty free) than both arm and x86. The future is looking great!
in an era of clouding and power plants needed for datacenters, power efficiency is key...
I really liked the part where you didn't explain the design difference and just used vague buzzwords
It's quite simple: since processors are now present in numerous devices beyond "traditional computers", ARM will win this race, for the sake of energy efficiency.
It's not that simple, and ARM is proprietary while RISC-V is open source. That's where the future lies.
i have a high performance setup on my computer... and still im hyped of ARM finally arriving in a more serious way in the computer market, phones never stopped to impress me in many ways, like... just watching alien asolation, re7, 8 and 4 remake is impressive, and a potential market for pc gaming in the future, and the new imacs are really powerful
Arm (In Laptops):
Battery Life: 📈📈📈📈
High or More Intesnive Performance: 📉📉📉📉
X86:
High Or More Intensive Performacnce: 📈📈📈📈
Battery Life: 📉📉📉📉
If they write games to natively run on ARM, can it run games as fast as x86? (Games like half-life?)
ARM runs games fast, the bottleneck is the GPU already.
Only for games with low cpu reliance
I'm looking forward to 8K 120fps on ARM on both Apple & Windows!
Neither x86 can do it yet.
Does Linux run normally or even optimally better on an A.R.M. or X86 architecture?
The tradeoffs are not inherent in the Linux code so much as the compiler that is used, if I understand correctly
The compiler outputs the instruction set opcodes, i.e. arm vs x86
I dont know why, but some big companies don't support cross-compiling their products which is crazy to be cause I don't fully understand why. But it shows that there's no straightforward way to translate between architectures
@@forgetfulfunctor1 So which does Linux perform BETTER on?
Linux runs fine on both architectures. It is really built specifically. You can use something like Gentoo to optimize the very CPU you have. But highly NOT recommended if you don't know what you are doing. That said, NOT all software have ARM version or x86 version.
@@iokwong1871 I thought those were the only two architectures mostly available.
@@jakobw135 Even a game handheld that runs on linux, have over 20 variants. given that most of them are some form of ARM. but that's the problem with ARM, there are really no standard like x86 / x 86_64. And on those of those, there are RISC V, MIPS, etc.... Your mile may various for each, but Linux general support an ocean of architecture. LOL
Generally speaking, this is faulty information. x86 don't inherently custom more power than ARM. It depended on many things. X86 do have more instructions to decode and predict. But that doesn't equal to needed more power automatically. Out of all things, it would be the manufacturer process that makes the big difference.... I mean of course ARM is going be better on power consumption with 4nm when compared to a 10nm x86.......
New Intel CPUs are on the same TSMC node and they are still behind.
Lets switch cpus and generate more e-waste than ever... No thank you. Modern arm is so expensive most people can not afford it. A Broadwell 14+ core will be faster than a new mac and not use much more power and cost 1/10 or less. Rasbery PI was fun when it did not cost a fortune. Doing the exact same workload the difference in power consumption is not much different. Hype to get your cash.
Next do a video WHY ? AMD ARM CPU's are not Energy efficient.
Please do explain what went wrong vs say a M1.
It's very interesting idea to have ARM CPU in your future PC but that is not going to happen anytime soon.
My smartphone certainly doesn't last longer than the laptop, and it's 5 years newer
Yes ARM is the future
But we are not in the future yet
I am waiting for the more detailed differences between arm and x64. not just chit chat
so some think only arm will improve in the future and will take over amd intel cos they will not improve just like arm?
There will not be either or, but hybrids. Next generation CPU will be a hybrid between Risc V and X86. On the same dye.
Very little REAL INFO! 😢
RISC-V has entered the chat...
You should have watched Fireships videos to explain it better.
what about x64?
X86 is x64
@@lokigh888 ruclips.net/user/shortss3fqjlEH2UA?si=SYQrl_TFu0RVcwED
Why does it mention 3 not 2 then arm vs x64?
i don't like it that my laptop has a phone cpu
Why ai voice over
its called text to speech, not ai. still unfortunate though
@@Platinum_XYZ Text-to-speech is AI lol
@@heian17 text to speech is TTS, not AI. could you share where you got that info from?
@@Platinum_XYZThis type of TTS uses AI to add impressions
@Ascoli-dx1ht thank you. finally a proper explanation. so it is AI that uses TTS
arm should be the future
El futuro del x86 serán los ordenadores de sobremesa. Para todo lo demás arm.
tnx
Samuel Groft lead ARM
What’s heavy duty software development 😂
X86 is outdated architecture it's been out since 1970s . Arm is superior but nobody with exception of Apple Qualcomm are developing chips. Think biggest roadblock most applications for business and gaming is x86 . Now that they are starting to make emulation for x86 to be run on Arm might not be much longer before ARM Rand D explodes and we see the industry as a whole shift to Arm.
the industry hasnt shifted to arm because arm is just too specialized, the instruction set is what makes x86 palpable. ARM is fantastic for mobiles and integrated technology, but doesnt come close to bringing what x86 is able to bring.
@@dogsbecuteit's like switching from gas vehicles to electric vehicle. it will take them atleast a decade for half of the world to switch from x86 to ARM.
@@X10Z24 Hopefully longer. A lot of power users arent interested in ARM.
same as previously told... lots of talk without a usefull info!
RISC-V
Snapdragon X Elite arm ❤❤
ARM is future....
Even if intel/amd improve x86 this architecture have no future .
lol the immigrants tshirt - that's why
ARM Is trash
Why?
@@koek4539 just check his avatar
@@Myname-l3h LOL
@@koek4539he aint wrong tho even though hes obviously ragebaiting, arm is pretty trash currently outside of just works, not every programs or games are compatible with ARM currently
one of the most useless videos I have watched for months. glad it was so short.
ai slop
Woke ..
ARM is shite. Just keep it to normal x86 where you actually get performance AND compatibility. It also doesn't swallow your RAM memory if you're using graphical stuff.