What's the Best Grow Light for Growing Cannabis? [2024]
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- We The Growers sits with Dylan (@mitten_master) and Mobile Jay (@mobilejay) from BeanFiendz. In this clip, the @beanfiendz__ talk about their new stategy using both HPS and LED grow lights in their rooms. What is the best grow light for growing cannabis? Let us know what you think in the comments!
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Finally someone taking about mixing LED and HPS together. I've done it for years and it really is the best of both worlds. LED alone doesn't compare.
But what's the best option for adding red for a homegrower with the 4x4 or 5x5 tent.
@@unclejake1476look into the gml torch 850 it’s a led with a HPs spectrum
@@unclejake1476 mars hydro has cheap far red led strips look it up
Dont change your mind when they switch and say led's are the best....
same here, It makes me laugh how people almost take it personally if another disagrees with their light preference. but I ended up using BOTH together a few years back and the plants love it
I have grown my own weed indoors in a 4'x4' grow tent using either 400 watt, or 600 watt HPS lamps for about thirty-five years and have often considered trying LED lights but have never found a good reason to change what I am doing. My results have always been very good. Also, every LED manufacturer claims their lights are the best, and they are all expensive. I wouldn't know who to trust. I will just stick with what I know.
Plus there has been a legacy of them being shady about how much power they actually draw/give. I've seen brands claiming 1000 watts but then you read the fine print and see that it only pulls 200 watts from the mains!
You've got the right idea my friend. High pressure sodium and metal halide are the best. They're your friend especially when you know them and know how to work with them. The only reason I think anyone would use LEDs at all is to achieve the savings that manufacturers tout. However, the savings they promise you don't happen. It's not near as advertisements would have you believe anyone will tell you that That has used them
Hps in Winter Led in hot month..and i Always Run hps Mixed with led from Oktober to April...after that its Just too hot
This is the same concept as to why the same genetics in a light dep will finish quicker as opposed to indoor , because you havent been able to until recently emulate the deep red sunset indoors .
I’m glad to hear people making some sense. I’ve always yielded well under HIDs.
I run both HPS and LEDs in my grow and have no issues at all. I get the best of both worlds. Stay Frosted!
Do you run double ended or single bulb
@@chrostophermajor Single 600 watt HPS
The way these two carry themselves deserves respect. Shout out from Norway, you guys inspire people all over the globe!🫡
The humidity argument depends on where you live... I depend on my HPS lamps to keep humidity down because I am in a coastal city and our average daily humidity is 70% - 98%... Flowering 60 plants with no humidifier at all.
LED for veg and HPS for flower
These guys are smart smart. Obviously smarter then most.
Then or than?
Growers have been using hps reds for years, nothing new with hps red, try using the red for the hole twelve hour cycle to see what that gives you.
THANK YOU!!! LEDs are NOT the end-all-be-all for everything in growing.
I steal a lot of business from led growers and dispensaries. Hps and old skool strains are doing it for people. I ain't losing any money. Quality over quantity. Descriptive words people are constantly telling me: very strong but balanced, long lasting, super creamy and smooth, no ceiling
Ewww creamy weed wtf lol
@@EricCheetoh Yes creamy is awesome.
great interview, in my experience the best results today, qualitatively speaking, are given by a combination of CMH 630 DE dual spectrum with 2 LED bars for UV and Far Red, up until about ten years ago the best was the HPS-LEP combo, unfortunately however the LEP technology has not been evolved and the lamps on the market, despite producing a light particularly pleasing to plants, produce few ppfd compared to the recent LEDs.
The best grow lighting is a combination of lights for a more well rounded spectrum. HPS, LED, CFL, CMH, MH, etc. I run hps with an led and CFL for under canopy and side lighting
My HPS flower buld quit working can I use my MH bulb until I get another HPS flower bulb ? Our grow store is closed for the next three days
smart idea guys mimic the sun well done with the reds nice now ramp down time like outside at the end of flower more solid buds more tricheome developement more turps you guys doin great keep it up FREE THE WEED! PEACE!
Yes getting your lights right is like getting hitting the getting the g spot for them girls
I see smaller buds from LEDs and larger buds from hps I figured mixing them would be great I plan on it
do it,,, I combined a few years back and they compliment each other really well
I prefer CMH.
Maybe someone can actually help me out here. I want to grow this seed that I got in some bud I bought before Christmas, the strain is blueberry gelato I haven't been able to find any videos on this specific strain on how to grow it. I'm planning on making my own nutrients for the plant, will I be able to make my own nutrients and add it to the plant, like used coffee beans and things like that or will I just be experimenting at that point, I don't want to buy 2-3 bags of different types of soil. This is my first grow and I want it to be completely natural and just absolutely amazing. I understand that the lighting will be experimenting a little bit, I definitely want to mix the lights together, I just am not sure how I should attempt this lmaoo, my bf is going to buy the lights, we just don't know what grow lights to get. I am really trying to figure out the best lights, this is the best video I've seen and I'm hoping I can get some help, thank you
The Netherlands are 1 step ahead
How? The product coming out of the Netherlands is no where near as good as the USA.
They were learning about light recipes years ago
Wtf hahah netherland still growing haze with strawberry fertilizer flooding their trays with the 5gal lightmix pot once a week
@@gmone7925These dudes dont represent cutting edge tech in the US.
Don't judge US weed growing by these 2.
Metal halide in first 2-4 weeks vegs shortens my flower time by a weel
What is the best option for I'm already homegrower at the moment when it comes to LED, UV snd far red. Is there a mixed lighting setup for a 5x5 or 10x5
There’s a reason you didn’t get a reply on this question. If you asked this question the answer is pretty obvious. 5x5 or 10x5???! Are you planning on running just 1 or 2 lights with that small 10x5? What is then btu of your ac , do you have a sealed room? This podcast is for the guys running bigger grows, you need way more space then a 5x5 or 10x10. Do you have a trolmaster to use 2 hps and led? This podcast isn’t for tents/small grows. Build a fully sealed 20x20 or preferably 20x30 x 16 ft high sealed building (make sure r20 spray foam insulation 3.5-4inch thick lat the very minimum. Then you can implement this.
@kushismycologne3264 I meant both and I figured it out myself. Anything can be scaled down to a tent just like it can be scaled up to a large grow. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@unclejake1476 practically You are saing using both hps and led togheter
guy i run mh and hps ....always kept it quite that is use 200 what tunable and always have nice crops
i use cmh with leds,and prob had my best grows with both in use
What's the difference between a good LED and a bad LED light ? I'm perplexed here. It's the same light omitted
because the plants thrive better with the ideal spectrum ratio... Green red bleu ir uv it all benefits each other when it is the same balanced spectrum as in nature or what the plant prefers best (you will learn as you grow the same strain a few times). Also the plants dont run on visible light alone and most lights are boasting their efficiency based on visible light (photons) when in reality the more "inefficient" (on paper) light can produce more bud because there is more yellow/red light emitted for example (reading lower ppfd per diode/per watt consumed than bleu light but try growing weed with only bleu diodes.... it will be shit.) I have mars hydro fce 4800 and for whatever reason they didnt even put uv/ir in them (causing bad quality for sure) and very low amount of deep red probably to sell their deep red/uv christmas style lights later on... So enlighten yourself about the lights first because there are alot of money grabbing shit companies out there dont wanting u make good bud but want to rip u off too... I start (veg) with a light that emits more bleu light. I hang a light emitting more yellow/red when i switch flowering and back to bleu light at the end of flowering just like in nature. I feel like switching the spectrums speed up the flowering process.
one factor is the diodes they use........the "better" brand lights will use the "top bin diodes" . Apparently when those tiny little lights are made they get tested as each one works a little differently quality-wise. Then there is the quality of the materials used in the parts for example the most expensive lights will be made of thicker metallic frames which help with heat dissipation Etc etc I've got some really pricey LEDs (HLG Diablo) to some cheapies (Bloom plus) and there is a difference. That said there are some really good cheapies out there as the best value light I ever got was the VIPARSPECTRA XS3000 Pro. it was a fifth the price of the HLG and almost as good.
@TheNomad2727 what's the price on that and how much were you able to get from it
@@whitetiger5181 the price on the HLG 350 Diablo (Australian dollars was about $900) and I average around 5 to 6 oz per plant (Autos) if I only used the cheaper lights Id get about 3.5 to 5 oz. But its alot more than just lights to get the ultimate yields like nutrients, flushing. LST etc etc
@@whitetiger5181 That was one from a while ago, I remember reading about it. You can get the same or better now for much less than a few years back.
4:44 CMH = Sunshine
What is the reds?
What brand of led and model for veg & flower
Been using a 600w HPS custom hood with vert cool tube also some LED to fill in 4x24” in a 4x4 kills it
Please do a garden updates I'd love to see ❤
i used 1000w hps 5x5x7 tent and 1000w mh same size tent. and my enviorments was perfect. and my herb was compitetion. airflow. no heat probs no humid prob, no bleaching, no probs. fellow cultivators, some informations is apparently useful. other is trial and error practice makes perfect. dont apply everything you here just because someone says to do so or wont work...
@@ANJH1106ran straight led for a bit but back with slim killer bloom and a HPS 600 in a 5x5 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
sorry to ask but im french and didnt get the "checkboard" turn them off run the leds...what checkboard means in that context? cause i dont play chess
The pattern of the board so basically set up a led and hps side by side
Je suis pas le seul français ici alors 😂
Bruning Mercury just like the sun, I feel bad for those that have to under LED...
HOME Grown 🔥👌💨.
F The dispensaries
HPS ARE THE BEST MY OPINION
He said 5.5 ec ? Right?
The answer is both
This is insane.
HPS in winter. No need to put the heating on when you've got those bulbs.
They are wrong in what they say, the emerson effect is not produced by turning on IR 8 min at the end of the light cycle
The Emerson effect only demonstrates the existence of two photosystems, and that each one is activated or deactivated with 660nm and 730 nm and joining these two nanometers increases photosynthesis....
Can a plant hive male seed only
No.
Most likely the benifet comes from the ir in the hps lights causing the leaf to heat different and plants to transpire diffrently , that was the first thing I noticed when going from hps to led and I run mammoth so my spectrum is a good match to hps , wouldn't it be more cost effective to use some of the newer ir light bars over hps
Im sure these guys are great growers but far red leds are not new the par 420 induction lights made ten years ago you could buy far red leds pontoons that would connect to them.Mix spectrum leds and hps people have been experimenting with for years.Yes it works great but its not new.
ruclips.net/video/TiQDNhCGOhQ/видео.html En el 2016 ya estaba mezclando hps + led xD
CMH master race for home growers...reeeeeeeee
Is it that much better than LED?
Only if you have the possibility of cooling aka a window unit or something. I recently got a new home and my new grow space actually doesn't have a window, so I've swapped with LED to keep temps down. But I'd still say CMH gives better flower.
@@Tinfoiledhat I grow in a 3.3ft x 3.3ft tent in a closet in my room, this grow I'm going to be ducting out the top of the door and out of the window in my room. I'm not going to use AC yet as it's still winter here. But I've been growing with about 300 watts of led which are HORRIBLE with heat. One is a single COB diode that draws, and Im not kidding, 170 watts. For one diode. It burnt itself out though, only half the diode is working. So, theoretically if I was able to manage that, combined with venting outside instead of directly back into my room, I think I should be okay?
@smoothwookienookie5912 get any 3x3 LED and dim it to 50% the WHOLE GROW. Everyone is killing their plants with 100% full bore on LEDs...LEDs are intense direct light, where as HID the light bounces around. That'll keep your temps low, and still strong enough to flower good buds. I've gotten fist sized buds off a 240w spider farmer sf2000 at 50%.
Sounds like u guys have never heard of spectrum tuning LEDs like scynceled or grandmasterled
Hate the gatekeeper mentality lying by omission for profit if it’s the truth and it works why try to hide information 🤦♂️the business mind is our downfall
The sun gives yuo 2000 umol of ppfd, canabis can use 1000, any ligth of 800-900 gone work , over 1000 ppfd yuo need co2
Thats it
They aren’t wrong about the lighting. I’ve heard about the use of reds before. The marketing talk of these guys is very off putting. Trap rooms, really? Guys like that are in this strictly for the money. Culture vultures.
trap rooms guys put their freedom on the line and kept this plant alive, going and better during the worst of its prohibition period some of the best product is still underground, and most people know it
Guys like you are making weed nerdy. Hell yes trap rooms. I am in Canada and I will always refer to my business as “trapping”. Don’t forget most of us growers were infact trapping since early 2000s out here in Canada before it became legal. And after legalization , most of the growers went legal. Legal market crashed, now everyone is trapping again in Canada. You’re the culture culture man! We started growing i am an old head, and when we did it it was illegal. When we still do this, we mostly are grey market. Legal market shitty quality and no money. If there’s no money what’s the point. The point is the best herb, lots of money. Anyone who says they grow and don’t care about the money well that’s a lie or they are lost in the sauce. 🤯 Growers need to eat too, drive nice cars too? Why shouldn’t we ? We risked our freedom for this plant. That means we were aka trapping. Real gangsters we were, still are. Time in jail, raids, arrests. That’s all trapping culture. Anyone that’s not on this trap culture are the ones who were scared to do it when highly illegal. Real recognize real. I don’t respect pussy ass growers who are scared to break the law. Don’t forget the weed game is an outlaw community that will always be there. Weed is gangster don’t forget that. There will be an entrenched gangster culture within the cannabis industry . If you don’t like it , so be it. I hate the hippy culture , but hey it’s still apart of the cannabis culture as a whole. Stop trying to divide people and vilify them for still being trap oriented/ gangster. This gangster shit in our blood so is this plant. Nothing wrong with having Both. I’m from Canada it’s been legal here since 2018. “Traps” “trap lines/ trap services, “trap grows” “trap crews” is the language most people use here in Vancouver Canada…. It’s been legal here since 2018… still Refered to as trap because most people don’t participate in the legal market in Canada it’s all grey market/black market fire.
True story@@armandovela4415
@@armandovela4415 I am in an illegal market and without bedroom growers I wouldn't be able to smoke. The stuff I can get these days here is just as good as the stuff they sell there. Sometimes I feel like it's too strong/complex these days.
If you don't know about red lighting you have no business growing
Led frost is for mids.
Save that money.
Grow mids.
LEDs on a light recipe works great too. 11 13 at week 5, 10 14 at week 7. 💪🔥💚
10/14 week 7?
Grandmasterlevel LEDS ftw!
Exactly just buy a Borg run HPS spectrum and dont worry about the heat
These guys will make another videos bashing hps light..and yall will agree with them....make up ya mind stop following these youtube noobs
led and cmh
you guys should get migro on the show
N9o he is a biased clown
@@EricCheetoh you sure about that Ronald?
@@mashprimrose4508 yea im sure ...i commented it....duhhh!
What HPS would anyone suggest for a 5x5 to mix with my LED?
150w off ebay, easily put together ...
150w seems to be price breaking point ...
It's spectrum and intensity... that's it. Can LED give you that? Absolutely. There isn't a spectrum you can't get with LED that you can with HPS. Just more bro science.
Anybody use generators in there grow? Not electric generator ozone
I like led as there nice and cool apart from I think better yields
On paper led is king, on paper a high end led light emits 220 lumens per watt, while a high end hps light emits max 160 lumens per watt. A led produces more "light" per watt of electricity consumed vs HPS.
Once again the efficiency of LEDs being trumpeted but what about the final product? HPS still king.
I get 1.5gr per watt with lm301h... mpossible to do it with hps.
y la calidad es mejor que con HPS?
menuda tonteria lo de que ahorras una semana de flora, el atardecer esta lleno de infrarrojos y en el exterior no te ahorras semanas de floracion....
led by far
Mixed lighting is nothing new even trulieves largest building is mixed hps snd led. 😂
" Now that we talked about it, its really getting out".
What a joke.
I run both a my plants rather hps as in less problems better looking. Bar LEDs are better at coverage
LED. Period. If you want expressed flower manage your temperature. Look at the data.
5.5 ec???? Wtf
thank you guys for edu #Rastabilly #Rastabillyfarms #Rastabillybrand
LED grown buds have no top end on the effects, very pretty though