I have been using the Chrome Soft all season, but I saw your reviews and tried the Vice Pro this past weekend. What a difference. I played the best 2 rounds of the year just switching to the Vice Pro. I had so much fun trying something new and getting such good results. I’m going to try the Vice Pro Plus next to see how it performs. Without your channel, I never would have considered switching balls. Thanks for the work you do.
Anytime my friend. It is all about experimentation and finding what you really like best in the golf ball. From there we can narrow it down considerably with every testing. Love that the switch you made was good.
I’ve tried most of the top of the line golf balls there are. The Vice Pro is my favorite ball there is. I think it’s perfect. At the right time of the year you can find them for 30-32 dollars a dozen. With the urethane cover this golf ball is as good as the ProV’s. Yes, they are! For $25 less dozen. Can’t beat these balls. Excellent video. New subscriber.
Love it. Vice is really killing it. Thanks so much for breaking down the differences in forgiveness and reminding us all which golf ball is for which type of player.
I bought two dozen of pro and tour. Taking turns using them. Early into it but Tour may seem more forgiving. Def getting more distance on both as I have been using Supersoft for a least a year now. I’m 55 and have gotten some 260 drives with these balls. I averaged 225 with Supersofts Two years removed from a kidney transplant. Pre transplant I was averaging 260+.
Great review, Nick, especially the conclusion. I played two rounds with the Pro and two with the Air. Both scores with the Air were better. Check the ego. Play within your ability.
Thank you very much. Honestly it blows my mind not only how much some golfers are not honest with themselves, but even honest with others. Ive seen guys at work who go play alone and come back every single time and tell me they shot two over or three over, then occasionally I will go play with them and they shoot 23 over. Funny how that works
I played last year's pro soft for a few rounds. When it was cold out here in Cali it was like hitting a rock, but I tell ya, once it got warm holy smoke that ball flew off the clubs mostly the irons. I guess I'd buy them again down road. I'm still a Srixon fan
I could see them being harder when it's cold. They technically aren't really that soft in the grand scheme of things. In the cold I would want something like a duo soft or soft feel. I can't wait to test the q star tour again
As a St. Louis golfer, I started playing a lot in the winter this year and last. The DuoSoft, Wilson Zip, Cut Red, and the TaylorMade Soft Response all felt great (and played really well) when I played in the 40-degree weather. The SuperSoft and Soft Feel felt weird in the cold...not just hard, but also weird, which surprised me a lot. Really like the new TM SpeedSoft since it has more greenside spin and am looking forward to trying it this winter.
I grabbed a 2dz pack at Sams club on clearance for $25 recently. Always enjoyed using Vice balls. Maxfli Tour X has been my main ball but I use these for awhile
Found one of these balls in the bushes the other day and decided to play it. Really like it. Probably going to pick up a pack and see hownit goes. Was very surprised.
Please let me know how it ends up going. Also please check the alignment tool on the side and check which model it is. Rounded is 2017 and rectangular is 2019. If it has the arrow styling it's a brand new one. The only reason I bring it up is because the older ones are pretty good but the brand new ones are incredible.
@GolfBallAddict it's the rectangular alignment tool. The ball has a nice feel but I prefer the softer shell of the TP5. I recently picked up another box of Kirkland signature balls, same model year as the last pack and the shell doesn't have the same soft feel. Seems odd. Need to keep trying different balls. TP5 is my current favorite but too expensive to play all the time. As a mid to high handicap with 110+ swing speed, I'm struggling to find the best ball for me that's a reasonable price. Maybe the vice pro soft. Haven't had a chance to try it yet.
Hi. Great review. Unfortunately, my English isn't that good anymore. But I'll try. I played the normal Vice Pro for 3 years and was super satisfied. Play HCP 5 with a swing speed of 91mph. Last fall I tested the old Pro Plus and was impressed by the spin in the short game. Also the stopping power on longer iron shots into the green. Now during the season I notice that with the Pro Plus (old model) the irons are on average about 10m (12 yards) shorter compared to the Vice Pro. Even more so with the long irons. Sure, the Pro Plus produces more spin and the trajectory is much higher. Now the idea is to go back to the normal Pro to the new model. How does the new Pro compare to the old Pro? In the video you said something about how the Pro Plus is much more forgiving. Can you give me a comparison Pro (old 2020) vs. Pro (new 2024)? Greetings from Germany
Thank you very much for your question. The Pro 2024 is definitely a little softer and more springy like off the club. like a bouncy ball. The pro Plus is very good on forgiveness, but so is the brand new Vice Air model and I seem to be having more success with it at the moment.
@@GolfBallAddict Thank you for your answer. But the pro is not as soft as the Air? The new pro is much harder from compression. Or not? The old Pro Soft was extremely long with the iron and felt great. However, in the short game I had no feedback and the soft was too fluffy in this area.
I’ve really enjoyed your Vice 2024 reviews. I’m ready to upgrade from my Laddies to more of a “premium” ball. I’m torn between the Air and Pro. My swing speed is around 93-95. The Vice selector said the Air, so I’ll probably try that one first. Would that be your thoughts?
Switched to Vice Pro a month ago and have shot my lowest rounds of the season. The 90 compression rating works for my game. Came close to breaking 80 again yesterday with the Vice Pro. Shot 82 with an eagle and birdie on the card. They fly far with the driver, irons feel pure and soft off the putter. Just a fantastic golf ball at a great price when buying bulk. I want to see a Vice Rapsodo partnership for the off-season.
@@GolfBallAddictI made my own Vice Pro Rapsodo golf ball using the Rapsodo Golf Ball Dots. That’s why I switched to the Pro. Did my own ball testing at home 👍🏽
Great stats! And thanks for providing club speed as it shows a good ratio between that and ball speed. Although the Air is great, I'm a little torn between that and the Tour, mostly for the price.
The tour reminds me a lot of the pro. The driver reminds me a lot of the air. I'm still really impressed with the tour though especially for the price I think both are worthy of trying out
I’m still struggling to summarize the differences between the Tour and Air (besides the obvious softness). Based on the end of this video where you’re comparing air vs pro, I’m assuming you prefer air over the tour?
I've been playing the prior version Vice Pro (2022-2023) model. I'm a 14 hcp with a driver SS @95 and 7i @80-82. My ball striking is like you said, ok.... I have a few dozen pro's to get through but next time they run a 5+1 deal I want to get some new balls. I'm torn between the Air and Tour. My chipping is pretty decent. Will the Tour give me enough spin into a green or will it just roll out like most non urethane balls? The price is really good but wondering if going from Vice Pro and Maxfli Tour will the Vice Tour hurt the game or help? This is the million dollar question.
The tour spins pretty well. If I'm being completely honest, the pro and the air would be a learning curve for me with chips around the green. I prefer to not have to come back as much on my chips, and the spin with those golf balls is so much you have to put a lot more speed on them to get them to go the distance. So yes there would be a small learning curve going to the tour if you're used to the spin of the pro, but it's not going to be so bad you can't stick a green. The tour stick greens just fine.
The Vice Pro is my go-to ball. I can't tell the difference between it and the Pro V1, other than the price. I have used the drip, but they are harder to find in the deep stuff, which I find all too often. I use the white and the green, but I also like the shade a lot.
Need you to review the new maxfli tour series, i played them and the vice pro, could not tell the difference. But you can the maxfli tour 4dz for $110 thats $27 doz
do these golf balls still have the sort of "seam" line between the dimples? where it's kinda clear that one half of the machine, fused the golf ball in between the other half of the machine?
I have used vice pro and pro plus alot pro plus is better for me i like the feel the spin and the distance and dispersion of it ill play it over pro v1 ill sometimes play tp5 because it has just little better feel for me but dont hold greens as well as the vice pro plus
As far as cosmetically, just the alignment tool. Price went up a little bit too 39.99. as far as performance the new ones are light years better than the old ones in my opinion
I've watched pretty much all of your videos, and I like them a lot. But it's beginning to feel like you are working for Vice, or at least getting some kickback from them. You talk about with the Pro, it doesn't have very good forgiveness, but you still gave it a very high rating. In your past reviews, if a ball didn't have good forgiveness, it was it was MUCH lower in your list of 100.
I don't take money from golf ball companies for reviews. I had to pay $200 out of pocket just to get all these golf balls in and review them. Now to answer your question, golf ball forgiveness is a huge factor. That's why the vice Pro was the fourth in my list as far as vice golf balls tested. The tour, vice air, and vice Pro Plus all received higher rankings. Yes the forgiveness was not as good on the vice pro, but if it still breaks every record imaginable, how can I not give it a good rating.
I feel like Vice gets it they knew golf had gotten stale and people were getting sick of the cost. Vice balls are flat out excellent, priced reasonably and their design adds pizzazz
I used to play the vice pro ball before it changed. I don’t like the new one too much. Recently switched to the pro V1 and noticed my game is trending up
Personally I'm not a big fan of the new vice Pro either. Don't get me wrong, it tested pretty well, but the fact that the air and the Pro Plus blew it out of the water really had me wondering.
Thank you so much for watching the video. I encourage you to stick around and hit the subscribe button. Only because I think you'll learn some brand new things about golf balls that you didn't know before. Starting with forgiveness on golf balls. It is absolutely huge. And I have the data to prove it. The two biggest dispersions I can think of off the top of my head are the old 2022 TP 5X versus the Wilson zip (40 compression) With a firmness of the tp5x, if hit really well, I'll get about 150 yd with a 7-iron for both balls. If I miss it one off the toe, the tp5x will only go about 120 yards. The Wilson zip however I only lost four yards with on average with Miss hits on either the heel or the toe. That's huge. That's 26 yards difference. Now granted every ball is different. It all depends on compression as well as the clubs you play also, but there is a notion and assumption by a lot of the public the golf ball forgiveness doesn't exist and I just flat out 100% disagree. Like I said, I have four years of data to prove otherwise. It's actually the main reason I don't play the pro v one anymore.
@@GolfBallAddict if i hot a prov off the toe i lose about 6 yards with my irons i have 2 different LM's 160 on good hit, 155 off the toe i mainly use prov and vice pro and vice pro plus i have also used maxfli tour x. I only buy prov when its the but 3 get 1 dozen free, Ball prices dont bother me as I typically dont lose many. maybe 1 every 4-5 rounds handicap is 5
Head to head with the chrome soft, pro air did about 8 yards shorter on average for long shots with imperfect strikes. But otherwise it performs great. No big difference around the greens other than a firmer feel.
Vice make different balls for different players. You are assessing which ball suits your game. Players must be honest with their views on how they play. Use the Air and if you feel your game has improved, try the Pro. A ball will improve your game,if you are honest about the way you are hitting the ball.
Now question: if I go to a local store and see a good deal on previous Vice Pro or Vice Pro Soft, what would you recommend? I’ve never played a Vice. Just asking as I can get a good price vs buying new edition on website.
Yes I find that weird actually. You would think a bright green ball would be visible but it actually ends up being very difficult to see. Same thing with the red ball.
I have been using the Chrome Soft all season, but I saw your reviews and tried the Vice Pro this past weekend. What a difference. I played the best 2 rounds of the year just switching to the Vice Pro. I had so much fun trying something new and getting such good results. I’m going to try the Vice Pro Plus next to see how it performs. Without your channel, I never would have considered switching balls. Thanks for the work you do.
Anytime my friend. It is all about experimentation and finding what you really like best in the golf ball. From there we can narrow it down considerably with every testing. Love that the switch you made was good.
I’ve tried most of the top of the line golf balls there are. The Vice Pro is my favorite ball there is. I think it’s perfect. At the right time of the year you can find them for 30-32 dollars a dozen. With the urethane cover this golf ball is as good as the ProV’s. Yes, they are! For $25 less dozen. Can’t beat these balls. Excellent video. New subscriber.
Welcome aboard. Really glad to have you. I used the vice balls the other day in my first round of match play at a tournament and had fantastic results
Love it. Vice is really killing it.
Thanks so much for breaking down the differences in forgiveness and reminding us all which golf ball is for which type of player.
Absolutely. Thank you so much for watching and for all your great feedback
I bought two dozen of pro and tour. Taking turns using them. Early into it but Tour may seem more forgiving. Def getting more distance on both as I have been using Supersoft for a least a year now. I’m 55 and have gotten some 260 drives with these balls. I averaged 225 with Supersofts Two years removed from a kidney transplant. Pre transplant I was averaging 260+.
Nice! Thank you so much for giving the feedback. Please let me know what you ultimately decide you want to use.
Great review, Nick, especially the conclusion. I played two rounds with the Pro and two with the Air. Both scores with the Air were better. Check the ego. Play within your ability.
Thank you very much. Honestly it blows my mind not only how much some golfers are not honest with themselves, but even honest with others.
Ive seen guys at work who go play alone and come back every single time and tell me they shot two over or three over, then occasionally I will go play with them and they shoot 23 over. Funny how that works
I played last year's pro soft for a few rounds. When it was cold out here in Cali it was like hitting a rock, but I tell ya, once it got warm holy smoke that ball flew off the clubs mostly the irons. I guess I'd buy them again down road. I'm still a Srixon fan
I could see them being harder when it's cold. They technically aren't really that soft in the grand scheme of things. In the cold I would want something like a duo soft or soft feel.
I can't wait to test the q star tour again
As a St. Louis golfer, I started playing a lot in the winter this year and last. The DuoSoft, Wilson Zip, Cut Red, and the TaylorMade Soft Response all felt great (and played really well) when I played in the 40-degree weather. The SuperSoft and Soft Feel felt weird in the cold...not just hard, but also weird, which surprised me a lot.
Really like the new TM SpeedSoft since it has more greenside spin and am looking forward to trying it this winter.
I grabbed a 2dz pack at Sams club on clearance for $25 recently. Always enjoyed using Vice balls. Maxfli Tour X has been my main ball but I use these for awhile
May be previous generation but you cannot beat the price
Found one of these balls in the bushes the other day and decided to play it. Really like it. Probably going to pick up a pack and see hownit goes. Was very surprised.
Please let me know how it ends up going. Also please check the alignment tool on the side and check which model it is. Rounded is 2017 and rectangular is 2019. If it has the arrow styling it's a brand new one.
The only reason I bring it up is because the older ones are pretty good but the brand new ones are incredible.
@GolfBallAddict it's the rectangular alignment tool. The ball has a nice feel but I prefer the softer shell of the TP5. I recently picked up another box of Kirkland signature balls, same model year as the last pack and the shell doesn't have the same soft feel. Seems odd. Need to keep trying different balls. TP5 is my current favorite but too expensive to play all the time. As a mid to high handicap with 110+ swing speed, I'm struggling to find the best ball for me that's a reasonable price. Maybe the vice pro soft. Haven't had a chance to try it yet.
Hi. Great review. Unfortunately, my English isn't that good anymore. But I'll try. I played the normal Vice Pro for 3 years and was super satisfied. Play HCP 5 with a swing speed of 91mph. Last fall I tested the old Pro Plus and was impressed by the spin in the short game. Also the stopping power on longer iron shots into the green. Now during the season I notice that with the Pro Plus (old model) the irons are on average about 10m (12 yards) shorter compared to the Vice Pro. Even more so with the long irons. Sure, the Pro Plus produces more spin and the trajectory is much higher. Now the idea is to go back to the normal Pro to the new model. How does the new Pro compare to the old Pro? In the video you said something about how the Pro Plus is much more forgiving. Can you give me a comparison Pro (old 2020) vs. Pro (new 2024)?
Greetings from Germany
Thank you very much for your question. The Pro 2024 is definitely a little softer and more springy like off the club. like a bouncy ball. The pro Plus is very good on forgiveness, but so is the brand new Vice Air model and I seem to be having more success with it at the moment.
@@GolfBallAddict Thank you for your answer. But the pro is not as soft as the Air? The new pro is much harder from compression. Or not? The old Pro Soft was extremely long with the iron and felt great. However, in the short game I had no feedback and the soft was too fluffy in this area.
I’ve really enjoyed your Vice 2024 reviews. I’m ready to upgrade from my Laddies to more of a “premium” ball. I’m torn between the Air and Pro. My swing speed is around 93-95. The Vice selector said the Air, so I’ll probably try that one first. Would that be your thoughts?
100 Percent. Ive had way more success with the air myself. I think you will like the softer feel as well. 😀
@@GolfBallAddict awesome! Thanks! I’ll let you know.
I really like your reviews could you test the Odin X and X1, Thanks!
I will definitely look into it. Thank you so much for watching and for your feedback! :-)
Switched to Vice Pro a month ago and have shot my lowest rounds of the season. The 90 compression rating works for my game. Came close to breaking 80 again yesterday with the Vice Pro. Shot 82 with an eagle and birdie on the card. They fly far with the driver, irons feel pure and soft off the putter. Just a fantastic golf ball at a great price when buying bulk. I want to see a Vice Rapsodo partnership for the off-season.
Lol that would be cool
@@GolfBallAddictI made my own Vice Pro Rapsodo golf ball using the Rapsodo Golf Ball Dots. That’s why I switched to the Pro. Did my own ball testing at home 👍🏽
Great stats! And thanks for providing club speed as it shows a good ratio between that and ball speed.
Although the Air is great, I'm a little torn between that and the Tour, mostly for the price.
The tour reminds me a lot of the pro. The driver reminds me a lot of the air. I'm still really impressed with the tour though especially for the price I think both are worthy of trying out
I’m still struggling to summarize the differences between the Tour and Air (besides the obvious softness). Based on the end of this video where you’re comparing air vs pro, I’m assuming you prefer air over the tour?
I've been playing the prior version Vice Pro (2022-2023) model. I'm a 14 hcp with a driver SS @95 and 7i @80-82. My ball striking is like you said, ok.... I have a few dozen pro's to get through but next time they run a 5+1 deal I want to get some new balls. I'm torn between the Air and Tour. My chipping is pretty decent. Will the Tour give me enough spin into a green or will it just roll out like most non urethane balls? The price is really good but wondering if going from Vice Pro and Maxfli Tour will the Vice Tour hurt the game or help? This is the million dollar question.
The tour spins pretty well. If I'm being completely honest, the pro and the air would be a learning curve for me with chips around the green. I prefer to not have to come back as much on my chips, and the spin with those golf balls is so much you have to put a lot more speed on them to get them to go the distance.
So yes there would be a small learning curve going to the tour if you're used to the spin of the pro, but it's not going to be so bad you can't stick a green. The tour stick greens just fine.
The Vice Pro is my go-to ball. I can't tell the difference between it and the Pro V1, other than the price. I have used the drip, but they are harder to find in the deep stuff, which I find all too often. I use the white and the green, but I also like the shade a lot.
I love the shade. It's a simple yet effective design. Really easy to see in the grass as well
Need you to review the new maxfli tour series, i played them and the vice pro, could not tell the difference. But you can the maxfli tour 4dz for $110 thats $27 doz
Will do.
Would you speak to the forgiveness in comparison to maybe a Snell 3.0 or a Maxfli Tour CG (two balls in similar compression and price ranges)?
I would need a direct comparison, however my initial thoughts are the vice Pro would be toward the bottom.
Walmart has 24 pack on sale. $84 for 4 dozen....I ordered two - free shipping.
do these golf balls still have the sort of "seam" line between the dimples? where it's kinda clear that one half of the machine, fused the golf ball in between the other half of the machine?
Not from what I can see.
Looking for review of the 3 new Snell balls.
Me too!
I have used vice pro and pro plus alot pro plus is better for me i like the feel the spin and the distance and dispersion of it ill play it over pro v1 ill sometimes play tp5 because it has just little better feel for me but dont hold greens as well as the vice pro plus
Good stuff. It's hard to beat the value also. Saving money and improving performance is always ideal
Any difference in the 2024 vice pro than the previous version?
As far as cosmetically, just the alignment tool. Price went up a little bit too 39.99. as far as performance the new ones are light years better than the old ones in my opinion
In what ways are they better? I'm asking because a friend of mine gave me the vice pro to try and the last 4 scores have been my best ever.
Are the ones sold at Sam's Club the 2024 model or last year's? Anyone know?
2019 model
@@GolfBallAddict wow! 50 bucks for 2 boxes of 5 year old golf balls..not sure that's a great deal
Didn't vice use to have a trial pack. Like 1 sleeve of each ball.
They used to but I don't see them anymore. Hopefully they bring it back
Do you like this one or the tour s better?
They are both excellent. But the pro still would be my pick
@@GolfBallAddictive been thinking about trying the pro air myself but cant find them in walmarts yet. Are the old pros just as good as the new pros
I've watched pretty much all of your videos, and I like them a lot. But it's beginning to feel like you are working for Vice, or at least getting some kickback from them. You talk about with the Pro, it doesn't have very good forgiveness, but you still gave it a very high rating. In your past reviews, if a ball didn't have good forgiveness, it was it was MUCH lower in your list of 100.
I don't take money from golf ball companies for reviews. I had to pay $200 out of pocket just to get all these golf balls in and review them.
Now to answer your question, golf ball forgiveness is a huge factor. That's why the vice Pro was the fourth in my list as far as vice golf balls tested. The tour, vice air, and vice Pro Plus all received higher rankings. Yes the forgiveness was not as good on the vice pro, but if it still breaks every record imaginable, how can I not give it a good rating.
I feel like Vice gets it they knew golf had gotten stale and people were getting sick of the cost. Vice balls are flat out excellent, priced reasonably and their design adds pizzazz
They really are the number one direct to consumer golf ball. Modern, great designs. Most importantly, great product. Love what they do
That's a great observation.
I used to play the vice pro ball before it changed. I don’t like the new one too much. Recently switched to the pro V1 and noticed my game is trending up
I do like your reviews, keep it up
Personally I'm not a big fan of the new vice Pro either. Don't get me wrong, it tested pretty well, but the fact that the air and the Pro Plus blew it out of the water really had me wondering.
I never heard anyone say the ball is more forgiving on mishits
a ball is not going to allow you to lose that much less distance on mishits
Thank you so much for watching the video.
I encourage you to stick around and hit the subscribe button. Only because I think you'll learn some brand new things about golf balls that you didn't know before.
Starting with forgiveness on golf balls. It is absolutely huge. And I have the data to prove it. The two biggest dispersions I can think of off the top of my head are the old 2022 TP 5X versus the Wilson zip (40 compression)
With a firmness of the tp5x, if hit really well, I'll get about 150 yd with a 7-iron for both balls. If I miss it one off the toe, the tp5x will only go about 120 yards. The Wilson zip however I only lost four yards with on average with Miss hits on either the heel or the toe. That's huge. That's 26 yards difference.
Now granted every ball is different. It all depends on compression as well as the clubs you play also, but there is a notion and assumption by a lot of the public the golf ball forgiveness doesn't exist and I just flat out 100% disagree. Like I said, I have four years of data to prove otherwise. It's actually the main reason I don't play the pro v one anymore.
@@GolfBallAddict if i hot a prov off the toe i lose about 6 yards with my irons
i have 2 different LM's 160 on good hit, 155 off the toe
i mainly use prov and vice pro and vice pro plus
i have also used maxfli tour x. I only buy prov when its the but 3 get 1 dozen free, Ball prices dont bother me as I typically dont lose many. maybe 1 every 4-5 rounds
handicap is 5
Head to head with the chrome soft, pro air did about 8 yards shorter on average for long shots with imperfect strikes. But otherwise it performs great. No big difference around the greens other than a firmer feel.
Good to know. What is your swing speed?
@@GolfBallAddict about 85mph give or take
My new ball is Vice Pro Soft.
I would try the air then at some point. Pro soft is discontinued
You can get two dozen for $29.91 at Sam’s Club
You can but that's the older model. In my eyes, the new model is light years better than the old model.
Vice make different balls for different players. You are assessing which ball suits your game. Players must be honest with their views on how they play. Use the Air and if you feel your game has improved, try the Pro. A ball will improve your game,if you are honest about the way you are hitting the ball.
Thank you as always 😃💯🔥
Now question: if I go to a local store and see a good deal on previous Vice Pro or Vice Pro Soft, what would you recommend? I’ve never played a Vice. Just asking as I can get a good price vs buying new edition on website.
@@jeffpaul606go pro soft/pro air
Don’t like the green color way, it’s hard to see/clean the grass stains.
Yes I find that weird actually. You would think a bright green ball would be visible but it actually ends up being very difficult to see. Same thing with the red ball.
Looks like I'll try the pro air I need the forgiveness.
That's a good call. The air is a phenomenal ball in the forgiveness really helps