So the universal snapback fuzzy setup is gaining popularity! Now people who used to be safe from a fuzzy overhead, not so much anymore! People who couldn't really use them before, now can! Basically the road to Season 3 DBFZ gets fuzzier the closer we get to it :-0
I understand the fact that you have to hold the mix since there is no gap, but it's the IAD fuzzy "reactable"? Almost all high level players block IAD cross up mixes. What makes the IAD fuzzy unreactable?
@@ChimbzZ Its not reactable. You could technically fuzzy the fuzzy(oh lord how i hate these terms) as if you went like down+m instead of the IAD L there would be a 3-4 frame gap depending on the character, but in terms of you reacting to low, overhead, throw in a third of a second? Not possible.
@@ChimbzZ You are correct. This is not an "instant" overhead. However, it is faster than the average iad high because you are able to use j.L instead of M/H. Probably on the very edge of what is reactable.
@@Rooflemonger what if the player doing the IAD fuzzy just slightly delays the 2M? The frame window would be too tight and random to consistently fuzzy.
That setup actually has a double 50/50 for the traditional fuzzy characters because even if you block the first mix you can instantly go into fuzzy again on tall characters. But now that it's universal I can't wait for people to finally experience the bullshit instead of just avoiding big characters like the cowards they are.
If anything, since everyone can be fuzzied this might be a good thing. Maybe people will play who they enjoy rather then just picking the best options to get that w
I repeat myself a few times just to hopefully make sure stuff is extra clear, especially if you are not familiar with the concept at all. Snapbacks were strong, and now they are only stronger yet and basically I love DBFZ and all but lets go Season 3 already so we can change this stuff.
Supercereal47 not gonna lie this is actually disgusting... at least with the last fuzzy it could be countered with a 2H for some characters if they block the fuzzy. But now this is a safe fuzzy that works on everyone? Hell nah that actually is kinda cursed
@@Rooflemonger My thoughts exactly like just why? Like when something is overpowered and ruining the games meta it shouldn't be a just "Well wait to the end of the year and we'll fix everything then."
@@ThePlasticBowl yea, maybe they could do something like, a big patch once a year. but if something is proving to be too op or really troublesome in the meta they could do a small balence patch to fix that thing and a few others.
Partly a mistake, partly not. On one hand, it means they have more time to look at stuff like this instead of just knee jerk reacting to it. On the other, it means balancing takes forever. But we have seen the meta organically shift several times over the course of the year.
Roofle, prophet of the lord, spreading tech and information like an absolute legend. You do so much for scrubs like me, I'd be worse off as a player without the information you spread.
Thank you for making a vid about this. If this picks up people are going to have fewer second thoughts about picking big bodies since fuzzies can happen to everyone
@@thegods4670 the entire point of fuzzy is that you can't "just learn how to block". I'm not sure if you realized you don't need to be able to fuzzy to snap
Thank you SO much for this. I see GO1 doing this all the time recently and was trying it and not understanding why the IAD wasnt really working that well. Thanks for the great content and strats!!
also just a PSA, at level 1 a. gohan can get grounded snap solo for 2 bars in a combo that builds 1.75. 2 assists is 2 more potential 50/50s, so just pretend that this is okay for me please.
So, will this mean that big characters will make a comeback since their weakness is now universal or will we now have a new Piccolo hellzone problem where entire matches have only one mix-up taking place?
Yeah it seems to be more of a programming error in terms of how standing and crouching animations work rather than a feature so i'm sure it can be fixed
Now we know it's possible to fuzzy average-small characters in the corner with several other characters! Not so fun now, is it, non-big boy players? >:D
I just wanna say thanks your breakdown of this set up im wondering why my head gets tapped in the corner and with assist like trunks i cant block a damn thing thanks for the breakdown
Only part way through the video atm, so sorry if this is already covered, but any chance you could do a vid on being on the defensive end of the fuzzy snap set up?
I have an issue with this, only because 21 already has options for snapback setup *for example you can whiff 2L, jump cancel 5M, 5L,5L,5H + assist for overhead and immediately go into 2L or IAD overhead, or you can super jump 5M, 5L,5L, 5H + assist for the same result for 50/50.* If there's any 21 mains that perfer this way go for it! However this makes me question, does 21 not have a real fuzzy option?
Easier way to practice is to set them to crouching block, GUARD ALL, and "don't switch" because they will still be forced to standing block and get hit if you do the fuzzy correctly, and will crouch under your fuzzy if you mess the timing up
This can give you false positives, giving you situations where you can hit the dummy, but not hit an actual player crouching. The way mentioned in the video is the only 100% reliable way.
Something about your inputs must be different. When the setup happens, its dash, and instant air dash immediately. If you are whiffing on the dummy and being above him it sounds like a regular jump to me
While 'universal' options are generally awesome for gameplay, I think fuzzies in general are not. Thankfully, I am a lowly spectator and do not want to put in the time to get decent at this game at this point.
No if you guess they are going for the overhead and hold 4 you will block the overhead. If they decide to go low and 2m you (because iad jL and the 2m come out on the identical frame) then you lose the character.
Hi rooflemonger. It's been a while since I last commented on here but I hope you can help me again. I'm having a character crisis. I've dedicated myself to A21 since the release of fighterz while changing up my other 2 and now I don't know what to do. I have avoided using top tier characters this whole time but all these bardocks, kid buus, and gt gokus are infuriating. Is it meaningless to try and stay to my mid/low tier choices? Should I just pick up buu? My current setup is 17/trunks/21. I've had fun and I'm okay with losing now but sometimes I want to win ya know? If I stick to my team could I eventually overcome the obviously better characters?
First things first, switch 21 and trunks. Trunks is the character you want to have last. Secondly, keep on looking up tutorials, especially ones that are about your character. Third, assuming you're an online player, keep a bunch of team combinations on standby and just keep playing player matches until you think a certain team is good enough to take to ranked or actual tournaments. Lastly, don't give up on a team just because they're low tier. Base goku was considered the worst goku until wawa grinded his way up with him and now people think he's great.
Don't be scared to use top tier if its who you wanna play. In the end nothing will make you happier than playing the characters you are actively invested in. Unless you are going up against sonic fox for prize money anything else is foolhardy imo.
My dbfz playtime in the last few months has been very limited because I honestly haven't been the biggest fan of the direction where S2 meta has/is been going. That said, Broly is gonna bring me back hell or high water. Once that happens best way to get in games is to show up to a stream, I play most everyone.
If you got a air dp you can stop this on the part before you block the first move yeah(or lvl 3 as well), but once you block its too late and you are in the blender.
It has to do with landing recovery afaik. So basically, in this case, since you land one frame later than the opponent does after j.M, you don't get the full 21 frames of advantage that j.M has to work with. Hope that made and sense xD
hey, can someone help me? Does it have to be a jl to get the fuzzy going? I main cell and jm angles downward hitting every single character even gt but his jl is straight forward🙁
thing about Jump light for fuzzies is not so much the angle, but the speed. Jump M's are much slower to startup than jumping L's. The state where the enemy can be fuzzied is not usually a long one.
@@Rooflemonger First of all thank you so much for answering a question on such an old video, you're awesome. I thought that this would be the case, do you by any chance know if cell can fuzzy the whole cast (and teen gohan)? Thank you so much
Cooler doesnt have it nor would it be a threat without the option of a fast 2m like Goku or trunks. He can however be on the receiving end of 2x fuzzy from it
I'm 50/50 with one patch per year. Because constant patch would get annoying and some character might get unjust nelf (Looking at you MK11, League or Overwatch.) However, on the other hand, the game will be fresh in a constant basic. However, one patch per year, you might find some cool stuff that took a long ass time to fine. For example, some sleeper hit like Teen Gohan, Base Goku, Broly and Base Vegeta rose up in the rank. Broly specifically got shit on early season 2 despite the buff of "LOL low damage, fuzzied, need meters, average assist." Not until Dekilsage constant got into top 8 at major and actually win a major as well. Teen Gohan as well. In the beginning of Season 2 "Nah, minor buffs, nothing special." In the mid of Season 2, Chris G and Dekilsage just went HARM on ppl with Teen Gohan and he became a monster onward. That L Autocombo was BS.
A more "true" way to know if it's a "real" fuzzy is setting the bot to (Crouch, Guard First-Only, Don't Switch). Simulates if an opponent would crouch during match, while abusing the hurtbox mechanic that makes fuzzies work.
no. if you set the bot to "don't switch" (doesn't matter if it's set to "crouch"), it will get hit by the IAD fuzzy even if you don't do it right. for example, in order for the IAD fuzzy to work on a human, you must micro dash before the IAD, otherwise the following j.L will whiff. but against the bot with the settings you recommended, you could omit the micro dash and it will still get hit by IAD j.L.
Just realized fuzzies in fighting games are like money laundering in real life. It seems like it breaks the rules of the game but really it works because of those rules.
One version of this has been around forever and a day with adult gohan, as it was how he fuzzied big characters to begin with. Once people started cracking the numbers though it goes out of control.
i think these fuzzies need to just go ... ok, fair enough now EVERYONE (almost, sorry 16 :P) can do that ... but i really don't wanna have a game that's literally just fuzzies. Just remove em, i'll second the "fix" you mentioned last video where they just turn em into mids on the way up. Cause seariously, this game is just turning slowly in "DB FuzzieZ" lol
Now that this exists, can smebody tell me what is the point of level 3'S anymore? except for gt goku spirirt bomb and base vegeta, none of the level 3 give 50/50. why spend 3 bars and do a reactable mix when you can just call assist and snap to go for the 50/50? this game is getting way too deep with the fuzzies.
@@gerardallen3438 Those are other games though. This is fighterz and I don't see any reason for it to cost bar. If I can tod in this game, albeit it cost bar, I should also be snapback without it taking a bar.
@@sdjgfujds we can agree to disagree, but this kind of stuff wasnt an issue in other games because of that. It's a problem obviously but if they dont want to change fuzzies then this is an alternative solution. The game can be very 1 sided for ppl on the defensive zone need to consider alot.
Remember when fighting games were about hitting or blocking high or low... XD Now ya gotta think about fuzzies, set ups, doing the Macarena for optimal damage and still, good luck if your team doesnt have a damn Goku.
This game is hella fun but wow the meta is literally this now. When you play really strong players you HAVE to know how to do this. I played agaisnt someone good and I mean really good and I got snapped into 50/50 the entire game lmao. His snaps and 50/50 fuzzies where on point and mines wasn't guess who won lol
Snapbacks have evolved way past what the developers initial vision for them was to be sure. Just look forward to season 3 friend and hopefully it can be rectified
bro, you need to show us an example of it working in the begging of the video. I stopped watching after you kept doing the same shit and talking Cause i got frustrated.
So the universal snapback fuzzy setup is gaining popularity! Now people who used to be safe from a fuzzy overhead, not so much anymore! People who couldn't really use them before, now can! Basically the road to Season 3 DBFZ gets fuzzier the closer we get to it :-0
I understand the fact that you have to hold the mix since there is no gap, but it's the IAD fuzzy "reactable"? Almost all high level players block IAD cross up mixes. What makes the IAD fuzzy unreactable?
@@ChimbzZ Its not reactable. You could technically fuzzy the fuzzy(oh lord how i hate these terms) as if you went like down+m instead of the IAD L there would be a 3-4 frame gap depending on the character, but in terms of you reacting to low, overhead, throw in a third of a second? Not possible.
@@ChimbzZ You are correct. This is not an "instant" overhead. However, it is faster than the average iad high because you are able to use j.L instead of M/H. Probably on the very edge of what is reactable.
Wait can you gogeta dp out of it?
@@Rooflemonger what if the player doing the IAD fuzzy just slightly delays the 2M? The frame window would be too tight and random to consistently fuzzy.
That setup actually has a double 50/50 for the traditional fuzzy characters because even if you block the first mix you can instantly go into fuzzy again on tall characters.
But now that it's universal I can't wait for people to finally experience the bullshit instead of just avoiding big characters like the cowards they are.
Eduardo cursed you for having that profile picture 😭😭😭
Thanks Doc
Either way, tall characters still have to eat shit.
Videogames agreed
If anything, since everyone can be fuzzied this might be a good thing. Maybe people will play who they enjoy rather then just picking the best options to get that w
I repeat myself a few times just to hopefully make sure stuff is extra clear, especially if you are not familiar with the concept at all. Snapbacks were strong, and now they are only stronger yet and basically I love DBFZ and all but lets go Season 3 already so we can change this stuff.
The only thing I like about this is that GT Goku got an unofficial nerf
"Here I am in training mooooooode" 😂
Omg this game is now an even bigger nightmare. If you get snapped start praying 🙏
pray for season 3 friend
I approve of your comment regarding the nightmare. 👍
More fuzzies? I thought this game was called Dragon Ball Fighterz not Dragon Ball Fuzziez.
I don't even play big bodies aside from 21, but i've always hated the fact that big body mains have to go through this crap. Now, we all do, hooray!
@@FOF275 *cries in cooler and cell main*
Supercereal47 not gonna lie this is actually disgusting... at least with the last fuzzy it could be countered with a 2H for some characters if they block the fuzzy. But now this is a safe fuzzy that works on everyone? Hell nah that actually is kinda cursed
I’ve never had to deal with fuzzies since I play mid sized characters and I wanna keep it that way
If they wouldn’t have does this “one patch a year” thing do ya’ll think this would still be a problem?
One patch a year was a mistake, full out.
@@Rooflemonger My thoughts exactly like just why? Like when something is overpowered and ruining the games meta it shouldn't be a just "Well wait to the end of the year and we'll fix everything then."
@@ThePlasticBowl yea, maybe they could do something like, a big patch once a year. but if something is proving to be too op or really troublesome in the meta they could do a small balence patch to fix that thing and a few others.
One patch a year is fucking DUMB cause its like...how do you balance your dlc characters when they come out AFTER THE PATCH???
Partly a mistake, partly not.
On one hand, it means they have more time to look at stuff like this instead of just knee jerk reacting to it. On the other, it means balancing takes forever. But we have seen the meta organically shift several times over the course of the year.
Roofle, prophet of the lord, spreading tech and information like an absolute legend. You do so much for scrubs like me, I'd be worse off as a player without the information you spread.
You never disappoint thanks for your continued service!
Now I'm aiming for shenron every match, I wanna spark outta this every time
Thank you for showing 21 :)
Thank you for making a vid about this. If this picks up people are going to have fewer second thoughts about picking big bodies since fuzzies can happen to everyone
As if I didn’t need another reason to out the game down until season 3, now fuzzy snapbacks. Thanks roofle. I’ll just wait for the patch next year
Season 3 is soon friend, don't let Broly down in the moment of his birth. We will tough it out together.
The Gods That’s... not how fuzzies work.
@@thegods4670 Snap Is not fuzzy....
@@thegods4670 the entire point of fuzzy is that you can't "just learn how to block". I'm not sure if you realized you don't need to be able to fuzzy to snap
Perfectly timed vanish duh
Great breakdown, thank you!
Thank you SO much for this. I see GO1 doing this all the time recently and was trying it and not understanding why the IAD wasnt really working that well. Thanks for the great content and strats!!
finally, my dream of redistribution of fuzzy.
also just a PSA, at level 1 a. gohan can get grounded snap solo for 2 bars in a combo that builds 1.75. 2 assists is 2 more potential 50/50s, so just pretend that this is okay for me please.
Oh my god, this is awesome. I have been trying to get the timing trick for a minute
Well appreciated Roofle. Nice job.
I pray every top player abuses this during the world tour so even ArcSys will take notice.
Its already started happening, its only gonna be more prevalent soon enough. I hope for s3 to fix a lot of this.
Roof demonstrating he's the best in 16 minutes or less
Great video
Thank you for this.
Ty
SO HERE I AM IN TRAINING MOOOOODEEE. 0:44.
😯
So, will this mean that big characters will make a comeback since their weakness is now universal or will we now have a new Piccolo hellzone problem where entire matches have only one mix-up taking place?
Shhhh don't tell em Roof!!
This fuzzy snapback setup also increases the raqequit ratio.
LMFAO
Ima be practicing this later. Thanx Roofiemongler!
😟
question, can fuzzy's be erase from the game by the developers? or is it impossible?
It's absolutely possible.
Possible, Mortal Kombat solved the exact issue in MKX.
Yeah it seems to be more of a programming error in terms of how standing and crouching animations work rather than a feature so i'm sure it can be fixed
@@MattManDX1 it's not a programming error. fuzzies are in many fighting games.
Patch out fuzzies!!
If people online would just stand there like that 😔, good thing for mods those videos are amazing!
Now we know it's possible to fuzzy average-small characters in the corner with several other characters! Not so fun now, is it, non-big boy players? >:D
It's gonna be even worse as a viewer having to just watch fuzzies over and over again, just like Piccolo's stupid pre meter nerf hellzone loop
I just wanna say thanks your breakdown of this set up im wondering why my head gets tapped in the corner and with assist like trunks i cant block a damn thing thanks for the breakdown
*2 Weeks ago*
Rooflemonger: Are fuzzies detrimental to the game?
Also Rooflemongor: Let me teach how to fuzzy errthang!
That dash before the instant air dash is really hard for me to implement :(
Anyone catch that weird flickering glitch around 2:47? On the top left corner
This is insane no ones safe 💀. DOES THAT MEAN WE GET TO SEE PPL PLAY A16 AGAIN 😭💜.
This video give me anxiety because of my team (Janemba/Broly/SSJ Goku) 🤣
This doesn’t work anymore because of the season 3 changes right?
can you do this with Kid Buu?
Only part way through the video atm, so sorry if this is already covered, but any chance you could do a vid on being on the defensive end of the fuzzy snap set up?
Guess or spark.
what's the difference between the number in parentheses and the number not in parentheses?
i dont even remember honestly. Just the one in the brackets is the traditional frame advantage/disadvantage in the way you know it.
@@Rooflemonger so just pay attentino to the nubmers in parentheses?
Fuzzy equality
How do you do and confirm it with bardock?:0
Any tips for the micro dash? I keep getting superdash when I try the macro, and when I do a regular dash I can't IAD after
I have an issue with this, only because 21 already has options for snapback setup *for example you can whiff 2L, jump cancel 5M, 5L,5L,5H + assist for overhead and immediately go into 2L or IAD overhead, or you can super jump 5M, 5L,5L, 5H + assist for the same result for 50/50.* If there's any 21 mains that perfer this way go for it! However this makes me question, does 21 not have a real fuzzy option?
Easier way to practice is to set them to crouching block, GUARD ALL, and "don't switch" because they will still be forced to standing block and get hit if you do the fuzzy correctly, and will crouch under your fuzzy if you mess the timing up
This can give you false positives, giving you situations where you can hit the dummy, but not hit an actual player crouching. The way mentioned in the video is the only 100% reliable way.
So... How exactly to fuzzy?
I’m so sad I’ve quit this game all these new mechanics look crazy
When I wind up going for the jLjM after the Micro dash I also wind up hitting above the training dummy and whiffing the jL. Any tips on that
Something about your inputs must be different. When the setup happens, its dash, and instant air dash immediately. If you are whiffing on the dummy and being above him it sounds like a regular jump to me
Teen gohan kid buu gt is about to the best team in the game
While 'universal' options are generally awesome for gameplay, I think fuzzies in general are not. Thankfully, I am a lowly spectator and do not want to put in the time to get decent at this game at this point.
It is my sincere hope a lot of this stuff is changed/reworked/removed for S3.
If you jail with 2h post snap you can get a falling mix by mashing L on ya way down or 2L this works with like 90% of the cast
Well I know everyone is excited as individuals can use their favorite big characters now 0/
When did this get discovered, did I miss something?
Its been gaining traction in the tech/high level community for a bit now, its not brand brand new but it has been gaining in popularity big time.
What should you do if, after the snap, the IAD L hits? Should you just react with L+M?
Wait does that mean that it’s literally unblockable since they’re forced to stand block?
No if you guess they are going for the overhead and hold 4 you will block the overhead. If they decide to go low and 2m you (because iad jL and the 2m come out on the identical frame) then you lose the character.
Eric Ramsauer Exactly. Literally becomes a guessing game.
Hi rooflemonger. It's been a while since I last commented on here but I hope you can help me again. I'm having a character crisis. I've dedicated myself to A21 since the release of fighterz while changing up my other 2 and now I don't know what to do. I have avoided using top tier characters this whole time but all these bardocks, kid buus, and gt gokus are infuriating. Is it meaningless to try and stay to my mid/low tier choices? Should I just pick up buu? My current setup is 17/trunks/21. I've had fun and I'm okay with losing now but sometimes I want to win ya know? If I stick to my team could I eventually overcome the obviously better characters?
First things first, switch 21 and trunks. Trunks is the character you want to have last.
Secondly, keep on looking up tutorials, especially ones that are about your character.
Third, assuming you're an online player, keep a bunch of team combinations on standby and just keep playing player matches until you think a certain team is good enough to take to ranked or actual tournaments.
Lastly, don't give up on a team just because they're low tier. Base goku was considered the worst goku until wawa grinded his way up with him and now people think he's great.
Don't be scared to use top tier if its who you wanna play. In the end nothing will make you happier than playing the characters you are actively invested in. Unless you are going up against sonic fox for prize money anything else is foolhardy imo.
What do you play on? Where can I play you? And awesome video
My dbfz playtime in the last few months has been very limited because I honestly haven't been the biggest fan of the direction where S2 meta has/is been going. That said, Broly is gonna bring me back hell or high water. Once that happens best way to get in games is to show up to a stream, I play most everyone.
Considering how Janemba's j.H kinda keeps him in the air, can he do this?
Janembas stuff slow enough that I don't think he can do it, but honestly not 100% sure
What about hit?
Air DP beats the universal too right?
If you got a air dp you can stop this on the part before you block the first move yeah(or lvl 3 as well), but once you block its too late and you are in the blender.
More Gohan now 👌👌👌
So how do you read 21(20)? If 20 is the advantage, was is 21?
Honestly I don't even remember the difference I just remember the one in the brackets is the "real" +/- frame data in the traditional way.
It has to do with landing recovery afaik. So basically, in this case, since you land one frame later than the opponent does after j.M, you don't get the full 21 frames of advantage that j.M has to work with. Hope that made and sense xD
What !! You have to forward dash after your LLM I did not know that !! That makes no sense why but okay lol. Gotta learn this. =) thanks
With trunks it works better if you jump L > air dash M LL.
At least fuzzying isn't as character specfic as before.
A16 can have that 20frame advantage
hey, can someone help me? Does it have to be a jl to get the fuzzy going? I main cell and jm angles downward hitting every single character even gt but his jl is straight forward🙁
thing about Jump light for fuzzies is not so much the angle, but the speed. Jump M's are much slower to startup than jumping L's. The state where the enemy can be fuzzied is not usually a long one.
@@Rooflemonger First of all thank you so much for answering a question on such an old video, you're awesome.
I thought that this would be the case, do you by any chance know if cell can fuzzy the whole cast (and teen gohan)? Thank you so much
Honestly not sure at the moment never put much time into cell. I am away from home at the moment somewhat difficult for me to test
SSG vegeta and air supers becoming more usefullllllllllll
Well, time to see if I can make it work with cooler.
Cooler doesnt have it nor would it be a threat without the option of a fast 2m like Goku or trunks. He can however be on the receiving end of 2x fuzzy from it
I just want to know who coined that "Fuzzy" thing, lol, it sounds very silly.
its been a thing in FG's forever, predates DBFZ by a long time
WEN BROLY?? I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE
I'm 50/50 with one patch per year. Because constant patch would get annoying and some character might get unjust nelf (Looking at you MK11, League or Overwatch.) However, on the other hand, the game will be fresh in a constant basic. However, one patch per year, you might find some cool stuff that took a long ass time to fine. For example, some sleeper hit like Teen Gohan, Base Goku, Broly and Base Vegeta rose up in the rank. Broly specifically got shit on early season 2 despite the buff of "LOL low damage, fuzzied, need meters, average assist." Not until Dekilsage constant got into top 8 at major and actually win a major as well. Teen Gohan as well. In the beginning of Season 2 "Nah, minor buffs, nothing special." In the mid of Season 2, Chris G and Dekilsage just went HARM on ppl with Teen Gohan and he became a monster onward. That L Autocombo was BS.
A more "true" way to know if it's a "real" fuzzy is setting the bot to (Crouch, Guard First-Only, Don't Switch). Simulates if an opponent would crouch during match, while abusing the hurtbox mechanic that makes fuzzies work.
no. if you set the bot to "don't switch" (doesn't matter if it's set to "crouch"), it will get hit by the IAD fuzzy even if you don't do it right. for example, in order for the IAD fuzzy to work on a human, you must micro dash before the IAD, otherwise the following j.L will whiff. but against the bot with the settings you recommended, you could omit the micro dash and it will still get hit by IAD j.L.
Just realized fuzzies in fighting games are like money laundering in real life. It seems like it breaks the rules of the game but really it works because of those rules.
none of my current three have access to this :')
(beerus, black, yamcha)
yamcha can 100% do it
@@Rooflemonger lol, yea i was just told this by a few ppl. Only got to try it a little before work so i figured i could be wrong. Good news tho.
And i think Black can sorta do a version with jH
I guess this video won't work any more I can't believe it
Alright this is getting out of hand we need to raid arcsys so they get forced to fix this
This is much easier to react to though than like the bardock one
you can't react to either one.
@@aaronbenno1849 yeah my bad bardock's is just unreactable but this looks reactable
@@ossessionw it's not reactable, but you can guard OS it.
Most important question: can broly do this?
Second most important question: can broly's lariat armor out of this setup?
Once you block the first hit, you just have to submit to the setup, so no armouring out. Broly can't do the iad setup so far to my knowledge.
Wen Broly
Roofle what mod do you have for those inproved graphics 🙄
eh? I just capture everything from my ps4
Now the important question
How the hell people found this?
One version of this has been around forever and a day with adult gohan, as it was how he fuzzied big characters to begin with. Once people started cracking the numbers though it goes out of control.
thanks bandai more jail XD
i think these fuzzies need to just go ... ok, fair enough now EVERYONE (almost, sorry 16 :P) can do that ... but i really don't wanna have a game that's literally just fuzzies. Just remove em, i'll second the "fix" you mentioned last video where they just turn em into mids on the way up. Cause seariously, this game is just turning slowly in "DB FuzzieZ" lol
Now that this exists, can smebody tell me what is the point of level 3'S anymore? except for gt goku spirirt bomb and base vegeta, none of the level 3 give 50/50. why spend 3 bars and do a reactable mix when you can just call assist and snap to go for the 50/50? this game is getting way too deep with the fuzzies.
MineBloxProducts Cus theyre fun. I enjoy doing a level 3 to finish a combo it feels cool whereas this is boring
Looking forward for next patch >.>hopefully they remove such fuzzy setups >.>
Don’t like doing them and dealing with them 😅 maybe it’s just me
Fuzzies getting out of hand lol make snap back cost a bar or 2 jesus
No! I shouldn't be punished for snapping my opponent. If you wanna nerf the fuzzy, go ahead but it's makes no sense to make snaps cost bar.
@@sdjgfujds it has always been like that even in other 3v3 games that inspired dbfz. You can still do it you just cant abuse it.
@@gerardallen3438 Those are other games though. This is fighterz and I don't see any reason for it to cost bar. If I can tod in this game, albeit it cost bar, I should also be snapback without it taking a bar.
@@sdjgfujds we can agree to disagree, but this kind of stuff wasnt an issue in other games because of that. It's a problem obviously but if they dont want to change fuzzies then this is an alternative solution. The game can be very 1 sided for ppl on the defensive zone need to consider alot.
Remember when fighting games were about hitting or blocking high or low... XD
Now ya gotta think about fuzzies, set ups, doing the Macarena for optimal damage and still, good luck if your team doesnt have a damn Goku.
This game is hella fun but wow the meta is literally this now. When you play really strong players you HAVE to know how to do this. I played agaisnt someone good and I mean really good and I got snapped into 50/50 the entire game lmao. His snaps and 50/50 fuzzies where on point and mines wasn't guess who won lol
I'm reporting you, you made me stand without my consent.
Why are they trying to kill this game ?
Snapbacks have evolved way past what the developers initial vision for them was to be sure. Just look forward to season 3 friend and hopefully it can be rectified
@@Rooflemonger Yea I love the game but I just can't force myself past the annoyances. Looking forward to season 3 as well.
I hope that Snapback will cost 1 bar...
It's so annoying and powerfull!
Playing against piccolo snap is super boring. Its them playing a 1 player game basically
Good news now I know. Bad news I hate this.
Yo delete this
no i need da clickz
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First, and also really looking forward to this video :)
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bro, you need to show us an example of it working in the begging of the video. I stopped watching after you kept doing the same shit and talking Cause i got frustrated.