@thetake could you maybe please update these Iies about Rory? she was handed by Paris an assignment to write article about pavement, and she managed to make it interesting. She discovered all on her own that LifeandDeath Brigade exists and that Logan's grandfather was in it. Mitchum was NOT honest, he was wrong, she absolutely did have the drive and ability to dig, find a story and write it well. Paris was often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to that theathre kid. Rory was kind to him. She was also kind when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled. Do some real research, please. Rory's hobbies were travelling, knowing lots of alternative and indie music, books of all kinds including philosophy and politics, and movies of all kinds.
@thetake will you please make a video acknowledging that Rory could take criticism and her hobbies included knowledge of all music, debate and philosophy, geography, history, politics and current events, travelling and some partying?
Rory could take criticism just fine. even after meeting Richard and Emily. She was criticised at Chilton for being a "loner" and she said to Lorelai that maybe it is true.She is criticized by headmaster of Chilton for having a fight with Paris while they both lead the student council. He yells at them both in season 3. After they walk out, Rory admits she feels stupid about it, she feels she failed here, also for having a "no, you are" scene with Paris directly in front of him. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES. SHE ADMITS SHE FEELS EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT. She is criticized by headmaster of Chilton in "Not as cute as Pushkin" for having lost the Chilton student. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES. She is criticized by both the victim as well as directly by Lorelai (once she's reading the article) for writing the fat-shaming article about the ballerina. She does make excuses but then feels so bad about it that she asks Doyle to let her re-write it. Doyle then criticizes her for not having thicker skin and for feeling remorse. She is criticized by Lorelai for revealing to Emily that they have termites. Lorelai basically "wins" that episode, pointing out that Rory never was lacking food or books or the roof over her head before and that she crossed the line by telling Emily. Rory admits that she was in the wrong here. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES. Lane criticized her for forgetting about her and not being around and failing to be a good friend at least twice. The second time, on the phone, Lane criticized her for being a bad friend very directly. RORY HAS NO EXCUSES. when she slept with Dean she was heavily criticized by Lorelai. She refused to admit that she failed morally and ethically at first - but then she admitted it on the phone to Lorelai. Then she tried to give Dean a goodbye-letter asking him to stay with his wife. LORELAI CLEARLY TELLS HER THAT SHE WAS NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING THAT STEP BECAUSE SHE PICKED A MARRIED GUY. RORY HAS ABSURD EXCUSES AND THEN ADMITS SHE WAS WRONG AND ASKS DEAN IN THE LETTER TO STAY MARRIED. She failed when she picked Jess and admitted to Lorelai she lets him treat her like dirt (the "i didn't want to be that girl" speech) . She basically ends up criticizing herself for letting herself being treated badly. SHE MAKES NO EXCUSES. She is criticized by Taylor for not being the ice queen again. That situation is however not about Rory failing, so she stands up for herself publicly to him with correct arguments - she recognizes in this case correctly what arguments are on her side here.
It's understandable why Rory floundered so much in her adulthood. She was fawned over by everyone in her small town, with her mother treating her as a friend, not a daughter. It wasn't until she got to Yale that she realised that everyone was just as special as she was, and couldn't handle it.
It DOES suck being criticized but then again I guess it makes you a better more humble person and yea Rory truly WASNT that special simply bc she was polite liked reading 📖 and got good grades that’s a lot of people
Reminder that Mitchum gave her the best professional advice in her life, and instead of proving him wrong (as he says she should) she throws a tantrum that never truly ended.
@@oooh19it’s not about being humble, it’s about resilience and growth. Trees don’t grow straight without wind to temper them and push them to grow roots - people are similar. It’s not about promoting adversity, but people not afraid to take risks and explore (you fall down when jumping over a log, you get up, try again, and succeed).
Yeah, she got into Harvard med school later (according with every other program she applied to) I believe and she met her long term partner at Yale :) seems like a sweet gig
@@anoni6108god thank you. I'm in season 3 and seeing Paris failing to enter at Harvard while Rory is accepted by not 1 or 2 but 3 top ivy league colleges has made me drop the series. Now that I know one of my favorite characters ends up good I can resume watching the series.
The “I didn’t get into my dream Ivy” trope in TV doesn’t even make sense in the real world if you’re planning to do grad school like Paris. Because the real Ivy’s don’t accept undergrads for their grad programs except under very exceptional circumstances. They want to foster the creme de la creme and that means people with more experiences than one college’s culture. So Paris would have never gone to Harvard med school if she had go there for undergrad
@@ayameisastar I don’t think that’s accurate. My dad got into Georgetown Medical (substantially better than Harvard) while he graduated undergrad at UCSD.
One of my theories is that Rory never truly, deep down inside, wanted to be a journalist. She was drawn to writing and academics. She worked on papers because it had writing opportunities and seemed like the thing she should do. But she never seemed to truly chase them. There was a Stars Hollow Gazette? why wasn't she volunteering at that at a young age? Making self made documentaries or newspapers etc. Her only journalistic experience until Mitchum was the school papers. And we get told she's a good writer at her assigned articles, but Mitchum is right, she doesn't have the instinct to search out articles. She felt she had to be a journalist, or her mom pushed her (not clear on where the dream started). Even when she describes wanting to be Christiane Amanpour, she describes it as wanting to travel, be a part of something big. She even says "maybe I'll be a journalist and write books or articles about what I see. I just want to be sure that I see ... something." - MAYBE
That's exactly what always irked me so much about her. She talked so much about wanting to be a journalist, but she never did anything that showed it. She's good at writing and being an editor, so that's definitely something she could/should be doing, but the kind of journalism she always talked about? Nah. Every time she had to interview someone for an article she floundered and didn't know what to ask because she just can't connect to people. And like you said, not a single internship at a newspaper? She wouldn't have even had to try with the Stars Hollow Gazette, they probably would have let her write about anything she would have wanted. Also how did she only find out at Chilton that extracurriculars are important for getting into a good college? If she has been dreaming about going to Harvard since she can remember?
How did she follow Senator Obama before he became President and did NOTHING with being that ahead, even with her old money connections. I was honestly expecting Rory to come back to teach at Chilton to have some normalcy back in life. Not....that in 2016.
Rory's true talent was actually, kinda like what Mitchum said, managerial tasks. Organizing a staff, planning events. She'd have made a great corporate wife like Emily, or a great event planner like both Emily and Lorelai. Teaching might have also worked out for her. Anything but journalism really.
@@Vohalika they show her being good at teaching in AYITL. Yeah the organizing would definitely be following in her mother and grandmother's lives. She was very organized. I know she was offended by the comment, but she would make a great assistant. I work as an assistant so I see no shame in it. Rory could do that if she wasn't so spoiled.
I agree! I once was a cheerleader for one year in junior year and my high school best friend went all groaning “oh great” than congratulating me since she was in more in the outside crowd believing how cheesy those things are. So yeah I relate to this. Am I still friends with her nope. Stopped being my friend in late 20’s when she wrecked my car.
@@Theaterg15 i always felt like she looked down on Lane & never treated her as equal. So when Lane was becoming popular in school & having better social life than her, she got jealous because "how is my asian sidekick thriving more than me?' type.
Omg yes!!! Reason also am on Lanes side on her trying for cheerleading and Rory should just be ok with it. Even though I did cheerleading for one year (not my kind of thing like was more in the dancing which I am), its not like cheering pom poms all over the place wearing a mini skirt but extreme workout. I remembered how exhausting it was to do so much running every time when someone is talking but shouldn’t. Also cheerleaders are human beings like everyone else.
Carrie was mistreated by everyone, when she didn't mess with anyone. It's like those dudes cheated on purpose to fuck her over, knowing she didn't know. Almost as if, isn't it... You're sure making it sound like it, but I've seen stuff like that happen, men pretending to be single, or throwing themselves at women they know are into them, then surprise! Those women are suddenly getting insulted by that man's gf/wife wtv and he plays the coy little victim.
This show is basically one long indictment of the way money (and especially generational wealth) poisons you as a human. Getting the benefits of that money destroyed Rory’s work ethic, confidence, and generosity. She’s not a bad person, and I wish people would stop acting like she’s terrible or selfish because that completely ignores her starting point. She was a good, sweet kid at the beginning. Rory’s story is a tragedy. The fact that she’s returning to her roots at the end, following in Lorelai’s shoes, is the best thing that could happen to her.
Maybe Loreli should've been the grown up and realised that her kid was gonna be poisoned by the old money when her grandparents took her in after failing in Harvard? It was from that moment that Rory got ruined. She should've worn the grown up pants she did wear when she was raising baby Rory in a garage while taking care of the Dragonfly Inn (or whatever the og was) and took Rory back immediately, telling her failure was a part of life but she can rise from it a better person.
@@falconeshieldLorelai was the only type of mother she knew she could be, a kid of 16 froze her develoment after that trauma of giving birth, i have saw that milliom of times, qnd Lorelai vould do it worse but she work really hard for Rory, she wasnt perfect but honestly she was just avoiding Emily's kind of parenting; there is a point where you can control your kids and their opinions, also Lorelai did prevent Rory about their grandparents and EVERYONE gaslight her so bad. Rory change her mom for her grandparents in the first opportunity, and honestly i think its a great causionary tale of what Lorelai could become if she stay with her parents at 16
@@falconeshield Actually, Lorelai is just as much to blame as anyone else and the fact that she has the ability to fall back on the money & elite world of her parents is presented as a burden for her because she has to suffer through family dinner but in truth, Emily & Richard love their daughter. Are they over the top? Of course but the fact that Lorelai has them there for financial support & support of other kind, shows that she is not as truly independent or self sufficient as she likes to think because most single mothers don't have that kind of option when they need to send their child to private and Ivy League schools. So there is an air of hypocrisy that exists in both Rory & Lorelai because they see themselves as above their elitist family members until the next time those elitist ties can do something for them. In fact, the most genuine characters might be the ones who embrace their elite status like Emily, Richard, Christopher, & Logan because at least they're real enough to know they have it made.
If Rory is anything true to real life, having a kid won't change her in the slightest. I went to school with a "Rory" who ended up with an unplanned pregnancy and mom, dad, stepdad, and grandad all stepped in to bail her out and coddle her.
And she was supposed to know how, exactly? By sheer divination? Men cheat and don't say a word about being married, but women are to blame, right? Oh my fkn why didn't Rory just apologise for not fucking guessing, amirite?
Dean was actually fully married at the time that they slept together! We actually get a great scene where Lorelei tells Rory that he's Lindsey's Dean and she's the other woman (a rare moment where she holds Rory accountable for her behavior)
I think it’s unfair to say that she never worked hard. She just never learned to cope with failure all that well. There are lots of examples of her being confronted with a challenge, and yes, she usually has a meltdown initially, but she usually rallies (the semester off notwithstanding). When she first arrives in Chilton she realizes she’s way over her head, and she wants to give up because she has a pathological fear of failure, but we actually watch her struggle to catch up. Mr Medina is a big advocate for her in that process. And when Paris makes her realize that extra curricular activities are important in college applications (even though the Dean of her school warned about it much earlier), she panics, but ultimately at least tries to get engaged. And when she realizes she can’t maintain the same sort of class-load as her grand did at her age, she looses it, but it’s not like she isn’t putting the work in. She just doesn’t understand why that work isn’t enough. I think the show prioritizes drama over consistency and that makes it hard to get a beat on anyone’s character strengths and weaknesses, but I think she is a character who is able to work hard, can’t cope with failure, and doesn’t have a good blueprint for relationships.
"doesn’t have a good blueprint for relationships". Well, being abandoned by a father usually doesn't help with that, plus people here love to dismiss men's own guilt on cheating, when most women don't even know about their marriage or relationship when they do it, it's gross.
I agree. and I would also mention the fact that after she came back to yale she caught up on her off semester while doing the next semester's work at the same time, and graduating at the same time she was expected to graduate before taking the off semester. people, I think, are a bit overly harsh when talking about her work ethic imo. Rory is a hard worker, no doubt. I would more attribute her flaws to a unrealistic expectations of the world and a a sense of entitlement.
Yeah, I kind of have a sense like with Rory we're going through the same thing as with other beloved TV series from 15-20 years ago ("Friends", "How I Met Your Mother") - we seem to be going through some sort of a backlash against them, with people finding "toxicity" and "entitlement" wherever they can. It seems to be a reaction to how positively these characters were received when the shows were first airing. It's like we're collectively ashamed of our own lack of awareness back then, so now we're overcorrecting in hindsight and swing the pendulum to the other side. Meanwhile those characters were not meant to be considered perfect in the first place. They were human. Noticing that some of their behaviours are bad doesn't mean that they're suddenly horrible people without any redeeming qualities, just like not noticing those traits back than didn't mean that those characters were perfect. They were never meant to be and we're punishing them for the fact we hadn't noticed it before. Rory was never supposed to be perfect, but to call her JUST an entitled brat who never worked hard is just so wildly inaccurate...
@katpiercemusic -- You have to wonder if her fear of failure wasn't at least in part due to her mom acting as a friend rather than a mother. I mean later in Rory's life, when she was old enough to be cognizant of it, not like when she was a toddler. . "Authority figure" is almost a bad word (well, phrase, but you know what I mean) anymore. But parents aren't just there to enforce rules and supply clothes on the back, roof over the head, etc. They're also supposed to protect and stand up for and shelter (as in give them a safe space, not as in keep them ignorant) kids in hard times. Give them support while they mess up (because kids will, it's part of growing up) and are learning from it. . Maybe the way Rory is written, assuming there is meant to realism and character consistency and not just bad melodrama writing, is supposed to indicate some degree of subconscious abandonment issues anxiety. She doesn't quite have a mom to fall back on, she has a live-in 'bestie'. So she has to be perfect, can't fail, because she herself is truly the only one, adult or otherwise, she really 100% has that "has her back". And then when she meets the real world, where she is smacked with the truth that she isn't special or perfect and has no guaranteed free ride... . Then that ugly shock hits harder, and the lack of emotional safety net of an actually-a-mom parental figure means she falls further and spirals harder than she might've otherwise had she had a proper support network. It's scary to fail, but even moreso when you don't feel you have anywhere safe to land to recover and try again from.
I think it also came back to bite Lorelai in the ass that she had coddled Rory so much and that she prided herself on having "the good kid" like when she overheard Paris admitting she lost her virginity and told herself that Rory was good because she hadn't yet. But Rory would lose it to a married man. Rory is what happens when you never criticize a kid or tell them no. One person tells her she's not good enough and she drops out of an Ivy League school. I do hate that she turned out that way but then again; it is realistic.
I think that her parents were so controlling and emotionally abusive that she went out of her way to become Rory's friend and didn't act like her parent at times. A cycle of bad parenting all around.
I never understood why she wanted to pursue journalism, she had no drive for it, she wasn’t interested in justice in any way, or things that could concern her and her surroundings, I always thought she was gonna study English literature bcuz of how much she loved reading, and that could’ve been a good path for her, and I totally see why Logan’s dad told her she didn’t have it, and he was right. She had no self-awareness unlike most journalists.
I agree, Logan's dad probably wasn't the nicest and he could have worded it in a kinder more constructive way but I don't think he was wrong - Rory could have done so many other things that she'd be good at if she hadn't put all her energy and efforts solely into journalism, but instead this destroyed her confidence in doing anything at all
What infuriated me about Rory was that she turned up her nose at a teaching gig at Chilton! It was handed to her on a silver platter and when youre broke, a freaking job is a job! I dont feel she learned anything from her difficulties and shes now bringing a child into it. She continued to be a cheater with absolutely no shame. Stole her mom's story. All while whining. Yah... sorry, Rory sucks. Oh and her mom is celebrating her marriage to the man she's loved for years and Rory drops the baby news on her... Like girl, give a damn day! One day not about your messy life!
Totally agree! I think teaching position was a great offer for a girl who wrote one good article. I think if she could see this it would mean she changed and grow up. It could be something she did herself. Instead she chose to break her mom’s life to the public without asking, and the book’s idea was not even her own!!! And of course why to let her mother to shine and to focus on the man she loves. How Rory can write when she has no idea that other people could have feelings and self-worth?😂😂
Lol yeah rory infront of a class that is set for bad behaviour? She would be eaten in five minutes 😂 teaching is much more than just having the knowledge. You have to handle the pupils as well. It's okay if you don't feel up to the challenge. Even her being an university professor I don't see particularly because you have to teach classes as well. Maybe being a secretary would've fulfilled her if it wasn't said to her as an insult.
@@not-a-ghost2206 In the show they had her working with the students at Chilton and she was a natural. They showed that she could explain difficult concepts in a simple way. She would probably just have to do a diploma and then she'd be in.
In regards to Rory vs Paris community service, the problem is that Rory did her community service in an unconscious way and didn't look at it as lengthen her CV. It was often said and shown on the show that Rory participated in Star Hollow's events and fundraisers. The first time Paris visited Rory's house, Lorilai was organizing a Star Hollow rummage sale and Rory was helping. She helped out so much Taylor assumed that she would be his ice cream princess, even though she was going off to Yale in a few days. .
Rory did community service, Paris barely. I don't get this lmfao. Just because someone doesn't put in it in their CV, doesn't mean they didn't do it. I don't put all my jobs or volunteering experience in my CV, aside from one related to my field, because I think it's tacky as hell "look at me, I did volunteering at animal shelters and food banks woh woh hire me", what a phony piece of trash. You do it to give to the community, not because you want to put it in your CV because it looks cute to people hiring you, unless it's related to your field, and then it's okay because it shows you have experience. Tf kind of opportunistic world do you all live in? Do you put it in your CV when you fart for a good cause? I would never put my animal shelter, food bank or political party volunteering in my CV, it's tacky as shit, unless I did want to apply to a similar job, but I don't want a job in politics, it's all full of opportunistic corrupt people with a few good ones sprinkled, and I can assure you the good ones do not want a political career. Maybe animal shelters I'd consider, but it's a maybe. It's the same with a degree. You have a degree. Now you have to spend over 100 bills to get a diploma just to prove a bunch of people you did it, you went and finished university. It's exhausting. You have to spend more time proving people you did things than actually doing those things, just as companies spend more time and resources advertising for products than actually betting on the quality and resistance of their products. Your CV should have one page. One. No one will read more than that. Imagine a person who's done a lot of volunteering putting all that in their CV, are you insane?! It's as if you're just exhibiting yourself, "look at me I did this and that, I'm so good omg I have to prove myself to these suits people who have to validate me". People love this culture of parading their accomplishments around, and if you don't do that, it looks like you did nothing with your life, lol genuinely fuck that culture. I know what I did, y'all bitches don't have to know shit from my private life if I don't want you to. Not even my mom knows everything and thank fk she doesn't, what a nightmare it is that we live in this world where you all think people need to parade themselves and what they did good in life, which often they just assume is normal stuff to do (volunteering for animal shelters is a normal thing to do, you don't need to advertise it ffs). I started my first job at 16 at night, I don't need to advertise that either, the people who matter will know, those who don't need to stop throwing out idiotic opinions onto other people just because they don't tell you everything, maybe you're not owned an explanation or justification of another person's life, especially if you aren't close or aren't in it. Period. In order to be valued for anything, as humans, it seems to all of you, that we are obligated to advertise ourselves, our work, and our accomplishments. Nothing is private anymore, everything HAS to be measured to a point of obsession. We aren't people anymore, we're products who sell ourselves for the worth of what we do and accomplish so rich men can earn money and excuse their sins on us. Social media and neoliberalism fucked your collective brains beyond repair, and I just adore seeing the faces of people who know nothing about me when they look at the amount of jobs I've had, or volunteering I've done, and told them nothing about because it's none of their business, while they opened their traps to talk shit. It's just lovely to prove people wrong. Me and my aunt aren't close, why tf should I send her a CV with all the jobs I had to justify and demonstrate I have worked? Yikes. It's really sad the world you all live in right now, I feel really sad for you. Only the people close to me deserve to know every detail about me, and those who I choose to, you all want to make everything public and it disgusts me beyond belief that people cannot choose who to trust their information to anymore.
Controversial Take: It was brave of Rory to drop out of Yale if she'd genuinely used the time to explore her own interests and it was not cool of Lorelai to stop speaking to Rory over it. A lot of people blame that all on Mitchum and Logan but a lot of college students questions their choices once they get into the real world like Rory but Lorelai said she'd wanted to be a journalist since she was four & basically that she had to stick to it. Rory was never allowed to deviate from the plan until as it turned out, there wasn't much actually planned for Rory's future.
She was 'brave', but 'courage' comes from the privilege of knowing that it's okay to disconnect from Yale for a while - without serious consequences -. She's a Gilmore, and people like the Gilmores aren't hugely affected; they travel to Europe to think about life (like she did). If she were an ordinary person, she would have to put up with the job and move on with her life whether she wanted to or not. Reality is not sweet, and neither is courage. But I consider that to be the point of Gilmore Girl - to keep their privileges silent in the name of the audience's (false) relatability.
Oh I definitely Lorelai handled it wrong if she had let Rory stew for a couple she could have changed her mind or let her stay at home but not free load get a job and contribute she would have gone back sooner. I agree there were missed opportunities like Rory could have decided event planning was more her thing with the DAR
The boys aren't in love with her? They're just boys, passing time and flirting mindlessly until they actually fall for someone and stop using her, what do you expect lol. If the boys were in love with her, they would take her out on dates out of the house, not cheat or do whatever and use her. Men who like you and re in love with you take you out on dates, they don't marry other women and then use you while they lie to both. You made your own point against yourself, funnily enough. But she did go out of the house though...
@whosme-vg6oh -- Kinda gives you Bella Swan vibes, in that she's not ugly or a heinous b*tch, so it's not that no one should've liked her, but rather, she's not THAT hot or charismatic so why did EVERYONE like her? What are the odds every dude (of note in the story) was just that into her?
To be fair, the show only focuses on the boys who had feelings for her. Rory interacted with LOADS of boys throughout the series who had no interest in her.
Rory did actually try a lot. In the first couple of seasons. She never needed to try too hard for too long, but during the first seasons, she still has some tenacity and applies herself to the school antics. Unlike later seasons when she folds like a wet paper towel at the tiniest bit of resistance.
Rory made some effort, but it was not Paris level or the effort to be valedictorian Ivy League level. If Rory was rewarded for effort, she would have had a B or B+ average and gone to a state university.
@@cbushin Paris I thought was an example of working hard but not smart. Rory worked very hard but she didn't stress herself out, she studied what she needed to study, she made sure she was interested, she engaged with other students and tried to learn from them. Rory having a social life probably helped her get better grades. Paris spent a lot of time studying, but there's no point in that if you're not studying effectively.
The funny thing is that Lorelai was seen as a "failure" who didn't achieve her "full potential" like that is an actual measurable thing. Meanwhile, Lorelai did take risks and endured actual hardships at points and, yes, "everything worked out" for her in the end. It's true that Lorelai relied on the help of her parents as well when Rory went to Chilton but before then, we're lead to believe, she made do without help because she gained life skills and put living life the way she wants as a priority. Rory had the priority of "being an amazing journalist" and had no actual life skills that she needed to develop to get there. All she did was being good at school and have great organizational skills. When Mitchum told her she's less journalist material (but she was clearly great assistant material), she fell apart because she wasn't making her skills work towards having her life, she was making them work towards a very ill-defined "higher goal." I grew up in a very similar situation. My mother and I were refugees at one point and she had to work so hard just to live her life at so many points. She had a great talent but possibly never reached her "full potential" because life just wasn't as livable where she was from and escaping all of her hardships meant taking a risk, meant not being part of a higher echelon of society, starting fresh and having zero security. Thanks to her, I grew up in a situation where my good grades and talents were enough to let me breeze through school all the way into a great university. And then I had a miniature breakdown at 19 because I felt scared of the future, not knowing who I want to be. But thank god for having a family that didn't feed the delusion of the "golden child" and instead helped me approach this sort of crisis in a very pragmatic and level-headed way. I stoped pursuing my silly idea of "my ultimate goal of who I want to become" and chose a new major and let myself gradually decide what I want to do in life and that there is no such thing as your ultimate self or your full potential but you instead adapt your abilities and develop them as you go. And you might discover some you would never have thought you'd have!
The hypocrisy of rory of all people calling logan a cheater is wild considering he really thought they were 100% broken up where she never cared if she was in a relationship or not. Or if the people she sleeps with are literally MARRIED. Shes been a cheater since she was a kid and logan didnt even know he was cheating... I'd argue he wasn't
I haven't watched this show but I think Lorelai parentified Rory. It seems like she planted the idea of Yale and a prestigious Ivy League education onto Rory because she couldn't do it herself and that disappointed her parents. People look at Rory and Lorelai's relationship as if it is normal for a mother to be "best friends" with their teenage daughter. That's not normal, it's weird. I think Rory grew up with severe identity issues and the fact that she got to a point of wanting to write a book about her mother's life instead of her own shows that.
I watched this show with my mother, who was also my best friend, but the funniest part of the entire experience was how she'd flame Lorelai as a parent. She'd say, "You may get the blessing of being your daughter's parent and also her best friend but you can't be your daughter's best friend instead of being her parent." I agree about the Ivy League thing... in a way, I think Lorelai turned Rory into the daughter she wanted to be for her own parents had she not gotten pregnant. In fact, I side with Rory dropping out of Yale to figure things out, a lot of college kids question their choices it's normal but Lorelai stopped talking to Rory & said to her, "you've wanted to be a journalist since you were four." What kind of mother holds their child to something like that?
There are many instances during the show of Rory taking on more of a parent role to Lorelei. Talking about Lorelei’s relationship choices to the level she does is inappropriate. Rory also feels compelled to solve adult problems for Lorelei (remember her interference with the termite issue). I think Rory’s struggles and behavior are realistic for her upbringing. I see her as a people-pleaser and without a solid identity of her own. She never had the opportunity to fully develop and understand her own preferences. Lorelei is just as controlling as Emily. And she has major issues with men, stemming from Christopher’s inconsistent presence in her life. Jess and her had a “special” bond because they both had chaotic upbringings and he understood her in a way Dean couldn’t. He was one of the only people that saw who she really was.
Lorelais relationship with Rory is codependent. And when Rory is having a hard time and drops out of college lorelai stops talking to her which is cruel since she’s spent her whole life being codependent with her mother .
This translates over to men too. There is a serious section of the upper middle class and rich who see their parents/family’s success s their own. Mad Men shows this in the 3rd season with the a trust fund friend of Pete Campbell. Too many of these kids have had a serious leg up in life. They never have had to eat what they hunt. They have a safety net and they mistake luck for skill. I admit, I am kind of happy that Gilmore Girls went there.
That’s interesting given that Alexis Bledel (Rory), and Vincent Karthieser (Pete) got along so well enough to get married, I never realized it could’ve been due to how much or what they have in common in their roles.
I don't see anyone here criticising the men for cheating on their women, while probably they hid their wives or gfs from her. A bunch of sexist trash is all this is.
In other words, Rory was spoiled and was never taught how to be a functional adult, or at least how to be humble, which stagnated her development as an adult. Definitely big-fish-small-pond syndrome.
Part of the blame is Lorelai's, she was the one that put the Harvard idea on Rory's mind along with telling her she's special, with Rory she's fulfilling her failed dream of going to a prestigious university, as you can see when she sees the valedictorians wall on Harvard and stared at the picture of the woman that graduated the year she would have to.
A different take: Rory actually managed to sustain and assert herself in a preppy private school, against all odds, writing interesting articles on school pavements. She was unapologetic about her ambitions. She stood up against Paris when she was attacking weaker peers. The Rory in the later seasons is almost unrecognizable. The college Rory never talks about her courses or her professors, becomes a spiteful reviewer and ends up as a boy-crazy cheater. Also, people forget that the career of journalism completely changed in her generation. Yes, the final season showed that she failed at adapting, but she did write a book in the end. But: She is the heiress of a family fortune though, she was never poor.
Apart from the huge inheritance, she for sure would have benefited from nepotism through either Yale or the Gilmore connections and would have landed a good journalism job. That part was always mind-boggling to me in the new season.
@@queridasolar1711I know right??? She's a gasp Gilmore! That alone would've given her a job in the harsh economic years of 2008 and 2014. I know, I went through it. 😢
I'd say she was poor. As a kid she lived in a shed that had a curtain instead of bathroom walls, and that was because the inn owner took pity on them. Lorelai could not afford clothes for Rory so she made them from her t-shirts. Even if Lorelai could have turned to her parents for help, the reality Rory grew up in was of being poor (not like starvation-poor, but not comfortable or stable without the safety net of a kind employer and friends), until Lorelai worked enough to build them a good home. Otherwise I agree, and I think many videos on Rory are a little too harsh. Also, I have a lot in common with Rory and in reality a lot of those things can happen and be uglier too (bigger mistakes, more misguided, more naive, getting lost and overwhelmed etc). I don't like the claim that Rory had things so easy, she did study a lot, and it was often mentioned, for example by others saying it/praising her for it, because it doesn't make good TV to just watch someone study!
She was poor and born into a poor single-mom family, and sure as hell didn't cheat. Her grandparents are dicks, and if you have to bootlick terrible people like Logan and his family, or anyone who unfairly accuses you of cheating, you're downhill.
@@RebeccaEd "I'd say she was poor. As a kid she lived in a shed that had a curtain instead of bathroom walls, and that was because the inn owner took pity on them. Lorelai could not afford clothes for Rory so she made them from her t-shirts. Even if Lorelai could have turned to her parents for help, the reality Rory grew up in was of being poor (not like starvation-poor, but not comfortable or stable without the safety net of a kind employer and friends), until Lorelai worked enough to build them a good home". This. People delude themselves into thinking that just because someone's grandparents are rich, it means they are. If your grandparents disown or dislike you, you're getting no money lol, it's so funny to me how people see the world. And yeah, doesn't make for good tv to watch someone study, but they sure wanna make it out as if people don't make efforts for anything.
I think a big take away from this noting that you say she "isn't a bad person" is to learn to shift our perspective from bad people to good people (which is a point I think you indirectly make here). She for example saw her self as good so rather than recognizing that she has good and bad in her (like everybody else) she ends up struggling to grow at times.
And with all the opportunities she had....even back in 2007. She couldn't make a blog? It was the equivalent of Instagram for writers and journalists back then.
Yeah, sure. Just because you say it, makes it true. Maybe get a job at Pizza Hut at 16 and a bunch of other mindless jobs and then come talking trash online, but bet your mommy paid your bills for you to be on discord talking shit about those who had to work call center jobs, restaurant jobs, and all sorts of jobs and cannot do it now because they're terrified of being harassed by people like you.
Rory's hobbies were travelling, knowing lots of alternative and non-mainstream music, books of all kinds including philosophy and politics, and movies of all kinds. Paris was often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to that theathre kid. Rory was kind to him. She was also kind when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled. Do some real research, please.
She would have been better if she never went to Chilton. She became under the influence of the Gilmore grandparents and it set expectations for what her life should have been. So, she lost her edge that came from her previous middle class background. Her mother tried her best to warn of the trappings of that upper class. Her mother let up her guard by letting her parents back in.
One reason why it made me laugh cause for my dad he never went to a prep school to get into the biggest hard college to MIT and then went to grad school in Stamford. He went to a not so great public school and wasn’t valedictorian but got an extreme high Above Average on his SAT’s to have him get in. Did he do extra curricular and volunteer yes. I say this is a great example like you don’t need to apply for prep school to get into the Ivy League’s just be sure your in a good public school.
The creators of this video seem to have gotten all mixed up. They said Rory kissed Jess while Dean was engaged. Actually, when Rory kissed Jess, Rory was Dean's girlfriend and Lindsey was not on the show yet. So, Rory was the only one cheating when she cheated on Dean. Personally, I never liked Lindsey and even without cheating that marriage between two teenagers, one of which didn't think she should have to contribute to their income at all while she demanded that Dean get them money to buy a house that would've been at least $100,000 within one year means the marriage was doomed even if Rory didn't exist. I don't condone his cheating, but there was no way that marriage would've ended up being anything but a dumpster fire. Dean shouldn't have cheated. He should've ended his marriage then moved on with someone else. However, the someone else should not have been Rory, because she would've just cheated on him again, because that's who she is.
@@ellipsismsRory was not single when she kissed Jess, she was dating Dean. She then left for her school trip to Washington, she came back and was still dating Dean while being jealous that Jess was dating Shane
also, of course she assumed they were going to just give her the job, they had been hounding her and begging her for months to take the job. it was incredibly bizarre how they treated it like she needed to sell herself to them when they had already told her they wanted to give her the job many times
right? I like it when she f*cks up and learns! maybe not what we all expect her to learn, but she grows! the static 'good girl' who's only a foil to Lorelai might be aspirational, but not real
I do that by reading comments and what people write on youtube, twitter, etc. What a coincidence! I have tons of inspirations from many people who are bad examples, including cheating dudes who hide their gfs/wives, or lie about it, then blame someone else for their mistakes.
First, I completely disagree that "she never had to work for anything". She CONSTANTLY studied during Chilton times, always worked hard for her grades. If we speak about relationships - yes, everyone just fell to her feet - and it did not seem realistic. Second, it always baffles me how "Lorelei is so great" in discussions how Rory turned into a brat. Hello, it was her mommy who told her every minute how special she is - until it was too late. Altogether, I don't feel that the writers even had THE ending in mind, that is why it is rather useless to seek reasons for Rory's demise in earlier seasons. I just feel that she was TOO perfect in the beginning, so she didn't have any way up to go - and she went down as a charakter
When I watched Rory when I was younger. She kind of rubbed me the wrong way, when Paris entered I was like god I relate to her so much, and still do lol. Now, watching Rory as an adult, I see she had a great character growth but it just kept stomping. I also felt like Paris challenged out of Rory comfort zone, so I was glad Paris went to Yale with her, and Paris grew too as a person
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Super smart Rory spent her life thinking she was super smart. She was completely unprepared to meet Mitchum Huntzberger. Mitchum was the first person in her life to not be impressed by her pile of books and quoting Eudora Welty. Lorelai was just as bad as Rory. She enabled Rory, and kept her away from Emily and Richard. It is possible that Emily would have helped Rory to not be entitled, but Richard also enabled her too much. Emily Gilmore had the potential to help prepare Rory for Yale and to meet Mitchum Huntzberger, but Lorelai isolated her and prevented that.
Lorelai went overboard compensating for the emotional neglect of her own childhood, but she had no concept of how much encouragement was too much. Paris probably lost valedictorian due to her tantrum where whilw giving a televised speech in her pajamas, she started ranting about how if she hadn't had sex with her boyfriend she would have gotten into Harvard. People tend to forget about that.
I used to admire Rory so much back in the earlier seasons. I still do cause I admire her study ethics, however, she didn’t seem as worldly as Lorelei was. Like in getting to know how the world works and life beyond stars ✨ hollow she was definitely spoiled. She’s a great person who made bad choices and she got on my last nerves sometimes. But I really like your take 😉 lol on this.
Compared to most teenage characters, she is better in all aspects. Let’s pick any character from gossip girl or pretty little liars. The title of these videos should be « Rory is not perfect »not « Rory is all wrong »
I fear for your writing, then, because if this is trash (I deem trash anything that is filled with lies, such as this), I can imagine what you're going to write...
@@ellipsisms I take inspirations from a multitude of videos, not just gilmore girls, and i put the themes into consideration when I develop characters and motivations.
I'll be honest I have the same flaw as Rory in that I can be a bit snobbish and wanting to be more special than everyone and can be more egotistical at times. I think a lot of milennials and genz's or people in general have that flaw but done like to admit it and have been raised that way why people talk about "main character syndrome". Its sometime I'm slowly working on as a former gifted kid it but it's why I find Rory's down fall arc so important cause these wake up calls are realistic when you've grown up sheltered and feeling like the main character even with struggles. Growing up privileged and egotistical cause of it isn't your fault but these wake up calls and learning to choose to be more self-aware and humble instead of egotistical is kinda your responsibility and that's okay.
I feel myself very identified with Rory's journey. I always have been taught that "introvert, good grades, work hard, good maners girl" have a reward at the end. A happy and sucessful adulthood. The reality is quite different, with a lot of aleatory factors that can determine your success and you having to travel alone in a see of incertainty when you have been in a bubble all your youth. Even if Rory have a great support anyways, I feel very identified with the fact that her adulthood become a mess. Because adulthood is a mess
10:31 - 10:43 Rory started out having a decent work ethic... The problem was lack of flexibility; Rory only knew of one approach when pouring her effort into projects, and once habitual tactics no longer rewarded her, she had no clue how to respond. Couple that with familial pressure and the need to grow up before adolescence, and Rory got the message that her life's work was all for naught!
the, "controversy", over her writing a book in the reunion series was just weird to me since, literally from the first episode of the original series, she was always going to write a book about growing up with her mum, multiple times referring to it as her, "tell all"
Rory had privilege, but she had worked hard to get into college etc. I MEAN she is portrayed as someone who spends her life studying. She was immature about failure among other things, but that is normal? I mean she's a teenager then a young adult, who is not immature? Plus she had defined herself as the one who excels academically, and i can see how as an immature young adult would have an identity crisis when it comes to failure.
I think it's a bit unfair to Rory to claim she didn't try and didn't put in effort. At least the young Rory of the original show was always hard working. Maybe not as hard working as Paris, but she always pulled her weight. But she was used to and later took completely for granted that her efforts would always lead to big rewards and get her exactly what she wanted to. So when her efforts didn't bring her success with flying colours she was completely taken by surprise and unable to handle it. Especially at her infamous internship at Hunzberger. She also put in a lot of effort. Unfortunately she didn't try to be the best journalist she could be but instead tried hard to be the worlds biggest suck-up and Mitchum didn't fall for it.
When is she a member of the elite, when people who know nothing about her tell her she is one? I agree with you, but it isn't her that's the problem, it's the people around her. She did grow up with nothing (not 'nothing', but not super comfortable either), people just love calling others spoiled and elite as a way of deflecting or putting blame on the person themselves, changing their whole discourse when it's convenient for them. That's not Rory's fault, that's other people's, they are always contradictory, they can never keep a straight argument. I was called "privileged" by my aunt today because I can't find a job right now and am living at my mom's house since her stroke (wish I wasn't), but I started working part-times at 16, worked restaurants, call-centers, ice-cream shops where I only knew my schedule the day before, airports where I was humiliated and berated. It will all depend who you talk to, and what the circumstances are, people only talk about others as it's convenient for them and the interests of whoever commands the troops. Nothing more simple than that. I don't understand your remark as anything other than a criticism of others. Unless you're talking about another person. I don't discount the work some people have done, but some I criticise for stealing and proving their 'work' by stealing other people's chance to express themselves. I don't discount the work of famous people like taylor swift, her lyrics are phenomenal, have a lot of literary and other references only a well-read person could write, and I quote them too plenty of times - the actual singer I mean. But the women who pretend to be her on twitter, who haven't written a single line, or who people refer to as her (not talking about those singing her songs, but actual women everyone refers to as her, weirdly), are just odd, and they are usually the same ones writing stuff for people, sometimes lies, for people who aren't allowed to express themselves and should.
@@robinkholmes7127 to be fair: can you honestly say that if you were snubbed by a very rich family simply because they don't think your family is good enough for them - meanwhile your family was also objectively very well-regarded, just not quite as wealthy as these people - you wouldn't say something similar? Are you absolutely sure? Because I certainly can't say that about myself. They rejected her for not being good enough according to a specific standard and she rightly pointed out that she definitely should qualify based on that very standard. It wasn't like they said: "she's not educated enough, she's not nice enough, she's not smart enough" and her reply was "well yeah but who cares because MaYfLoWeR!". The criticism was "her family background is below us" (and that's not because of the Gilmore family as such - they socialise with Emily and Richard! - but because Rory grew up raised by Lorelai, and not in a traditional "rich family" way). She simply pointed out that it isn't. It was also the only time in the whole series she said anything like that, it's not like she was going around and rubbing her Mayflower background in people's faces. She didn't care about it - she only brought it up because the Huntzbergers cared. I don't see what's so wrong with that, I think it was a very natural reaction on her part and her annoyance was understandable.
Roly first season was good later on she was annoying and a cheater she is really pretty privileged. One thing I wish she studied another thing like medicine or something else
The Take, please correct your claim - Rory had hobbies. all the town activities. writing, debating, learning three foreign languages, indie style music, travelling and learning abour geography and politics.
The creators of this video seem to have gotten all mixed up. They said Rory kissed Jess while Dean was engaged. Actually, when Rory kissed Jess, Rory was Dean's girlfriend, and Lindsey was not on the show yet. So, Rory was the only one cheating when she cheated on Dean. Personally, I never liked Lindsey and even without cheating that marriage between two teenagers, one of which didn't think she should have to contribute to their income at all while she delusionally, selfishly demanded that Dean get them money to buy a house, that would've been at least $100,000 in those days, within only one year of him working his butt off, means the marriage was doomed even if Rory didn't exist. I don't condone his cheating, but there was no way that marriage would've ended up being anything but a dumpster fire. Dean shouldn't have cheated. He should've ended his marriage then moved on with someone else. However, the someone else should not have been Rory, because she would've just cheated on him again and he should've seen that, because that's who she is.
"“Her most egregious was, of course, when she slept with Dean, her first love (who she had actually cheated on with Jess) while he was engaged to someone else". It could have been phrased better, but they do say Rory cheated on Dean with Jess, separate to him being married later. The incorrect thing is that he's married, not engaged when they sleep together. The point is that she'd already cheated on Dean when they were boyfriend/girlfriend and then slept with him later when he was married, showing how her cheating (or being involved in cheating) began to become a pattern.
5:24 - 5:31 While many things came easily to Rory before college, she still had to put in effort. The problem was assuming she didn't need to diversify tactics...
One of the worst things Gilmore Girls A Year In The Life is that Amy Sherman Palladino backtracked all of the characters to where they were in season six because she didn't write season seven. I've always hated her cyclic lives idea that ultimately Rory ends up living a similar life to her mother but that makes zero sense. When you go back to rewatch Gilmore Girls, neither Lorelai or Rory come off as particularly good people and while Lorelai might like to think she escaped that elitist world of her parents for the small town charm of Stars Hollow, she really didn't either.
Could you guys make another video talking about bromance, especially based on how often in older media make-friendships were treated differently more female-friendships even though relationships maybe shouldn't be do heavily dependent on "gender differences" like how male+friendships without romance are actually possible and the queer community is allowing us to redefine our view on friendship and platonic/nonromantic relationships
I remembered loving this show so much when it first aired but on Rory character I thought her fashion clothes were too preppy where I was more of the artsy type fashion kind of girl. Though I liked was in the same journey as her wanted to study and do well in school to get into college but for me with a learning disability lots like to put me down believing I shouldn’t go to a four year college because of my situation and just go to community college to make it more easier. But nope I proved them wrong.
12:03 - 12:05 For all the idyllic things about Rory's formative years, she had to mature too early in life because of her mother's immaturity. Don't forget how Rory's mother was on the same page as her grandparents when it came to the girl's future... That second fact means she felt *intense* pressure from her family since she was first capable of perceiving such things!! Attributing Rory's downfall *solely* to having fewer challenges before college is a horrible oversimplification. If it weren't, then Rory might have been quicker to realize her need for adaptability...
@thetake could you maybe please update these Iies about Rory? she was handed by Paris an assignment to write article about pavement, and she managed to make it interesting. She discovered all on her own that LifeandDeath Brigade exists and that Logan's grandfather was in it. Mitchum was NOT honest, he was wrong, she absolutely did have the drive and ability to dig, find a story and write it well. Paris was often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to
So I have an older boyfriend, and he's got an 18 year old daughter, and we have an 11 year old daughter together. The 18 year old is FAWNED over just like Rory, by his immediate family. They tell her she's the most gorgeous thing they've ever seen [she's cute, but no model] and so intelligent, and her only flaw is that she's a little socially awkward. The entitlement of this child is unbearable. She's never had a job, no work ethic at all. She thinks she's going to be handed everything somehow? They give her money for the most menial tasks, and they're working on getting her a car. She's "homeschooled" since 8th grade but really she's done nothing but stay up all night arguing with me that coffee at 6pm isn't keeping her up. She's got an excuse for it all. She's never apologized for anything. My kid though she's expected to clean up after herself, they get onto her for everything. Not once called her even cute or pretty. But everyone outside this bubble thinks the opposite. My mom reminded me people like this flounder later in life. They're doing her no good. No one cares that grandma thinks she's the most special thing in the world if she doesn't contribute or the slightest bit self aware.
There is only one truth to this given the fact that everyone disliked Rory in the end but appreciated Lorelai and that is because Lorelai was raised by her parents as bad as she claimed they were, and Rory was raised by Lorelai... and that says it all. Being smart is not everything. Emily was more of a mother to Lorelai than Lorelai ever was to Rory. That, on top of the fact that there was no father figure for her. The first step into downfall was leaving Dean for douche Jess who was not only pushy with her but also incredibly disrespectful to her family. Then, she was too good to marry Logan given the fact that her own mom was not a fan of marriage, but was fine to be his mistress, then ended up cheating on her boyfriend and sleeping with a random guy on the street.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the take that she haven't to try because everything tend to fall in her lap. Rory was hands down the best pupil in Star Hollows' public school, she was the best in the private high school, you don't become a valedictorian because, and she has a nice track record in Yale. All those things come after trying, and trying a lot. By everybody's admission she is studying hard for all her life. It is very cheap to dismiss that effort, and is in compliance with a anti-scientific sentiment that emerged these last few years,that wants the people that spent their life in books "not to try in real life".
This video definitely nailed it, Rory's downfall happened because by the end of the show she too started believing everyone's hype about her and it made her lazy
whenever I re-binge this story I'm honestly doing it for Luke and Lorelei, Rory is so entitled and oblivious to others feelings it kinda gets annoying especially the more the seasons pass.
@Timbued doesn't she ask Paris to stop messing with others?isn't Rory nice to Brad the theatre kid? isn't she worried about the deer who hit her? doesn't she smuggle CDs and junk food to Lane? doesn't she admit to the teacher that she accidentally broke Paris' homework? Doesn't she always forgive Paris and even Tristan and offer help and support in Paris' boy troubles over and over? doesn't she apologize to Lorelai at the end of the termite episode? doesn't she send a letter to Dean telling him to stay with Lindsay?
@Timbued when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled, Rory was the one to stick up for her. when Logan and his friends were rude to Marty, Rory called Logan out on it. when Jess was being a jerk to the town, Rory convinced him to start appreciating Luke and helping him.
Feels like the capture of Rory on the show didn't help the downfall of the greatness of the Gilmore girls show. Almost akin to what made breaking bad was so good, the viewer was complicit in the genius spiral downfall of Walter white. The viewer knew they were complicit because the actions of Walter white became more heinous and terrible. Rory never killed anyone, but in the original series, cheating with a married man and never having to face the music with that decision would be like watch Walter White torture someone and the show world somehow thinking it was ok. The Viewer was never, for a lack of better word, punished for supporting the actions of Rory through and through.
I liked gilmore girls before my frontal lobe developed. Watching the show when I was older made it that I checked out when she cheats on her boyfriend waaaaaaaaaaaay at the beginning
I would not say that Rory "discounted" her mother's strengths, she actually has a fair amount of respect for her mom, but she did consider herself more mature than her mom, (and in some respects she in fact was back 🔙 then).
The sequel erased all the character growth the compressed season 7 gave Rory. Amy had a set ending in mind for the original show, unable to develop unexpectedly from character growth. That's why there was almost a decade of clamoring for Gilmore Girl sequel, but once it came the franchise died.
@smurfyday yes, the sequel/revival basically ignores season 7 fully and also ignores the last episode of season 6. Logan never escaped his father, Lorelai and Luke never got married.
I love Rory, but yeah she was WAY too sheltered. And unlike other people, if she’s having a hard time she can just go back to her hometown where everyone is welcoming her with open arms. She hasn’t been able to dig herself out of whatever mess because the people around her don’t allow her to fail. I mean she just has this need to return to a partner that made her feels safe and the guys also welcome her with open arms. Like Dean and Logan and even Jess thought he did call her out for it. Probably the only one because it took a while but he finally learned self respect. But in the end I love Rory as the flawed woman she is. And she needs some more growing up and she needs to go back to Jess. He gets her and she him.
I hate hearing that Rory didn't work hard. She got into Chilton and Yale. The real problem with her is that she wasn't much of a social person. She never did the extra things that can make or break your career. When you go looking for a job, they want to see that your open to do different things, both in and out of your field. Rory should have done an internship or something. But she was quite, reserved, and distant. Of course many people who relate to Rory love her for this. Of course none of that excuses how she treated her boyfriends.😮
how old would Rory be right now? I'm sure in reality she would have moved on with her life by now. the internet will never forgive this girl for making mistakes in her teens and twenties lol
The reboot takes place in her 30s... she sleeping with a married man, has a boyfriend who she constantly forgets about... Hasn't written anything significant in years ...and was offended when she applied for a job and they asked her to pitch ideas
@@brandonmoore5408 "she sleeping with a married man, has a boyfriend who she constantly forgets about", "And ends up pregnant without knowing who the father was". This side of RUclips truly is the spreading lies rally over here. Is it a competition or something for you, who spreads the most lies about people or characters you know nothing about, or what?
@ellipsisms know nothing about? I watched the show from the first episode to the last and the reboot... What in that statement is a lie? DEAN WAS MARRIED , Logan is engaged, She constantly forgot her boyfriend even existed!, She showed up to a job interview and was upset when they asked her for ideas...then was upset when they passed on her for someone else...what about all.that is a lie?
Rory’s personality is every stereotypes of Millennials according to the older generation and the more I think of that it ruins the show for me. It’s clearly set up from the beginning that Rory is a parentified child and has been for years. Lorelai constantly in small ways shows Rory that she can’t make mistakes as a teen because she owes her for the life she didn’t get to lead. Lorelai outright bullies Jess, and even gets his own uncle to join in, and nothing is said about that. But Rory who has had all this pressure buckles at a grown man, who is her boyfriend’s dad mind you, telling her she sucks and it’s a show of what a shitty character she is becoming?
Oh no, Rory is absolutely a bad person xD 1 line summary of her: Pretty rich white girl who's at her happiest when the thing she wants is close enough to touch but not enough to grasp.
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@thetake could you maybe please update these Iies about Rory? she was handed by Paris an assignment to write article about pavement, and she managed to make it interesting. She discovered all on her own that LifeandDeath Brigade exists and that Logan's grandfather was in it. Mitchum was NOT honest, he was wrong, she absolutely did have the drive and ability to dig, find a story and write it well. Paris was
often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to that theathre kid. Rory was kind to him. She was also kind when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled. Do some real research, please. Rory's hobbies were travelling, knowing lots of alternative and indie music, books of all kinds including philosophy and politics, and movies of all kinds.
@thetake will you please make a video acknowledging that Rory could take criticism and her hobbies included knowledge of all music, debate and philosophy, geography, history, politics and current events, travelling and some partying?
Rory could take criticism just fine. even after meeting Richard and Emily. She was criticised at Chilton for being a "loner" and she said to Lorelai that maybe it is true.She is criticized by headmaster of Chilton for having a fight with Paris while they both lead the student council. He yells at them both in season 3. After they walk out, Rory admits she feels stupid about it, she feels she failed here, also for having a "no, you are" scene with Paris directly in front of him. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES. SHE ADMITS SHE FEELS EMBARRASSED ABOUT IT.
She is criticized by headmaster of Chilton in "Not as cute as Pushkin" for having lost the Chilton student. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES.
She is criticized by both the victim as well as directly by Lorelai (once she's reading the article) for writing the fat-shaming article about the ballerina. She does make excuses but then feels so bad about it that she asks Doyle to let her re-write it. Doyle then criticizes her for not having thicker skin and for feeling remorse.
She is criticized by Lorelai for revealing to Emily that they have termites. Lorelai basically "wins" that episode, pointing out that Rory never was lacking food or books or the roof over her head before and that she crossed the line by telling Emily. Rory admits that she was in the wrong here. SHE HAS NO EXCUSES.
Lane criticized her for forgetting about her and not being around and failing to be a good friend at least twice. The second time, on the phone, Lane criticized her for being a bad friend very directly. RORY HAS NO EXCUSES.
when she slept with Dean she was heavily criticized by Lorelai. She refused to admit that she failed morally and ethically at first - but then she admitted it on the phone to Lorelai. Then she tried to give Dean a goodbye-letter asking him to stay with his wife. LORELAI CLEARLY TELLS HER THAT SHE WAS NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING THAT STEP BECAUSE SHE PICKED A MARRIED GUY. RORY HAS ABSURD EXCUSES AND THEN ADMITS SHE WAS WRONG AND ASKS DEAN IN THE LETTER TO STAY MARRIED.
She failed when she picked Jess and admitted to Lorelai she lets him treat her like dirt (the "i didn't want to be that girl" speech) . She basically ends up criticizing herself for letting herself being treated badly. SHE MAKES NO EXCUSES.
She is criticized by Taylor for not being the ice queen again. That situation is however not about Rory failing, so she stands up for herself publicly to him with correct arguments - she recognizes in this case correctly what arguments are on her side here.
@thetake Rory had tons of hobbies. all the town activities. writing, debating, learning three foreign languages, indie style music.
It's understandable why Rory floundered so much in her adulthood. She was fawned over by everyone in her small town, with her mother treating her as a friend, not a daughter. It wasn't until she got to Yale that she realised that everyone was just as special as she was, and couldn't handle it.
It DOES suck being criticized but then again I guess it makes you a better more humble person and yea Rory truly WASNT that special simply bc she was polite liked reading 📖 and got good grades that’s a lot of people
Reminder that Mitchum gave her the best professional advice in her life, and instead of proving him wrong (as he says she should) she throws a tantrum that never truly ended.
@@oooh19it’s not about being humble, it’s about resilience and growth. Trees don’t grow straight without wind to temper them and push them to grow roots - people are similar. It’s not about promoting adversity, but people not afraid to take risks and explore (you fall down when jumping over a log, you get up, try again, and succeed).
Trees are trees. They don't care lol. @@PartTimePterodactyl
I think that was the point of the reboot.
The universe did reward Paris though. In the grand scheme of things Harvard was just a bump in the road for her. She came out on top.
Yeah, she got into Harvard med school later (according with every other program she applied to) I believe and she met her long term partner at Yale :) seems like a sweet gig
@@anoni6108god thank you. I'm in season 3 and seeing Paris failing to enter at Harvard while Rory is accepted by not 1 or 2 but 3 top ivy league colleges has made me drop the series. Now that I know one of my favorite characters ends up good I can resume watching the series.
The “I didn’t get into my dream Ivy” trope in TV doesn’t even make sense in the real world if you’re planning to do grad school like Paris. Because the real Ivy’s don’t accept undergrads for their grad programs except under very exceptional circumstances. They want to foster the creme de la creme and that means people with more experiences than one college’s culture. So Paris would have never gone to Harvard med school if she had go there for undergrad
@@ayameisastar I don’t think that’s accurate. My dad got into Georgetown Medical (substantially better than Harvard) while he graduated undergrad at UCSD.
What does this even mean lol. The blonde got the doctor, is that it? Be brief, if you're gonna gossip.
One of my theories is that Rory never truly, deep down inside, wanted to be a journalist. She was drawn to writing and academics. She worked on papers because it had writing opportunities and seemed like the thing she should do. But she never seemed to truly chase them. There was a Stars Hollow Gazette? why wasn't she volunteering at that at a young age? Making self made documentaries or newspapers etc. Her only journalistic experience until Mitchum was the school papers. And we get told she's a good writer at her assigned articles, but Mitchum is right, she doesn't have the instinct to search out articles. She felt she had to be a journalist, or her mom pushed her (not clear on where the dream started). Even when she describes wanting to be Christiane Amanpour, she describes it as wanting to travel, be a part of something big. She even says "maybe I'll be a journalist and write books or articles about what I see. I just want to be sure that I see ... something." - MAYBE
That's exactly what always irked me so much about her. She talked so much about wanting to be a journalist, but she never did anything that showed it. She's good at writing and being an editor, so that's definitely something she could/should be doing, but the kind of journalism she always talked about? Nah. Every time she had to interview someone for an article she floundered and didn't know what to ask because she just can't connect to people. And like you said, not a single internship at a newspaper? She wouldn't have even had to try with the Stars Hollow Gazette, they probably would have let her write about anything she would have wanted. Also how did she only find out at Chilton that extracurriculars are important for getting into a good college? If she has been dreaming about going to Harvard since she can remember?
How did she follow Senator Obama before he became President and did NOTHING with being that ahead, even with her old money connections. I was honestly expecting Rory to come back to teach at Chilton to have some normalcy back in life. Not....that in 2016.
@@lisahuber9329 I know Richard came into her life more in mid-high school, but I'm surprised he didn't immediately jump on that.
Rory's true talent was actually, kinda like what Mitchum said, managerial tasks. Organizing a staff, planning events. She'd have made a great corporate wife like Emily, or a great event planner like both Emily and Lorelai. Teaching might have also worked out for her. Anything but journalism really.
@@Vohalika they show her being good at teaching in AYITL. Yeah the organizing would definitely be following in her mother and grandmother's lives. She was very organized. I know she was offended by the comment, but she would make a great assistant. I work as an assistant so I see no shame in it. Rory could do that if she wasn't so spoiled.
Who goes into an interview and doesn’t plan? An interview doesn’t automatically mean you have a job, you need to prove yourself
and what kind of journalist doesn't have at least one pitch at any given moment
A person who was handed over everything and got used to it
She was thoroughly unprepared.
to be fair she was asked often if she would work for them. so she didn't thought she have to sell herself.
@@raeginser9386Yeah, she thought she already had the job because they didn’t mention an interview
I really hated that storyline of her shaming Lane joining the cheerleading squad at school
I agree! I once was a cheerleader for one year in junior year and my high school best friend went all groaning “oh great” than congratulating me since she was in more in the outside crowd believing how cheesy those things are. So yeah I relate to this. Am I still friends with her nope. Stopped being my friend in late 20’s when she wrecked my car.
@@Theaterg15 i always felt like she looked down on Lane & never treated her as equal. So when Lane was becoming popular in school & having better social life than her, she got jealous because "how is my asian sidekick thriving more than me?' type.
Omg yes!!! Reason also am on Lanes side on her trying for cheerleading and Rory should just be ok with it. Even though I did cheerleading for one year (not my kind of thing like was more in the dancing which I am), its not like cheering pom poms all over the place wearing a mini skirt but extreme workout. I remembered how exhausting it was to do so much running every time when someone is talking but shouldn’t. Also cheerleaders are human beings like everyone else.
I think she did it because that's what Lorelai would do. It wasn't even Rory's own opinion
Rory was the Carrie of ‘Gilmore Girls’.
That's a really great way to describe it. She absolutely was.
Nailed it!
Carrie was mistreated by everyone, when she didn't mess with anyone. It's like those dudes cheated on purpose to fuck her over, knowing she didn't know. Almost as if, isn't it... You're sure making it sound like it, but I've seen stuff like that happen, men pretending to be single, or throwing themselves at women they know are into them, then surprise! Those women are suddenly getting insulted by that man's gf/wife wtv and he plays the coy little victim.
the one with the blood or the one in the city?
@@ellipsismsthats not true at all Carrie literally threw away everything good she had with adrian for the chance to be back with Big 😑😑😑
This show is basically one long indictment of the way money (and especially generational wealth) poisons you as a human. Getting the benefits of that money destroyed Rory’s work ethic, confidence, and generosity. She’s not a bad person, and I wish people would stop acting like she’s terrible or selfish because that completely ignores her starting point. She was a good, sweet kid at the beginning.
Rory’s story is a tragedy. The fact that she’s returning to her roots at the end, following in Lorelai’s shoes, is the best thing that could happen to her.
Maybe Loreli should've been the grown up and realised that her kid was gonna be poisoned by the old money when her grandparents took her in after failing in Harvard? It was from that moment that Rory got ruined. She should've worn the grown up pants she did wear when she was raising baby Rory in a garage while taking care of the Dragonfly Inn (or whatever the og was) and took Rory back immediately, telling her failure was a part of life but she can rise from it a better person.
@@falconeshieldLorelai was the only type of mother she knew she could be, a kid of 16 froze her develoment after that trauma of giving birth, i have saw that milliom of times, qnd Lorelai vould do it worse but she work really hard for Rory, she wasnt perfect but honestly she was just avoiding Emily's kind of parenting; there is a point where you can control your kids and their opinions, also Lorelai did prevent Rory about their grandparents and EVERYONE gaslight her so bad.
Rory change her mom for her grandparents in the first opportunity, and honestly i think its a great causionary tale of what Lorelai could become if she stay with her parents at 16
@@falconeshield Actually, Lorelai is just as much to blame as anyone else and the fact that she has the ability to fall back on the money & elite world of her parents is presented as a burden for her because she has to suffer through family dinner but in truth, Emily & Richard love their daughter. Are they over the top? Of course but the fact that Lorelai has them there for financial support & support of other kind, shows that she is not as truly independent or self sufficient as she likes to think because most single mothers don't have that kind of option when they need to send their child to private and Ivy League schools. So there is an air of hypocrisy that exists in both Rory & Lorelai because they see themselves as above their elitist family members until the next time those elitist ties can do something for them. In fact, the most genuine characters might be the ones who embrace their elite status like Emily, Richard, Christopher, & Logan because at least they're real enough to know they have it made.
@@falconeshield Rory was a legal adult at that point. There was no way her mother could force her back to Yale.
If Rory is anything true to real life, having a kid won't change her in the slightest. I went to school with a "Rory" who ended up with an unplanned pregnancy and mom, dad, stepdad, and grandad all stepped in to bail her out and coddle her.
Oh, Dean wasn’t engaged alright? He was married, as married as married gets
And she was supposed to know how, exactly? By sheer divination? Men cheat and don't say a word about being married, but women are to blame, right? Oh my fkn why didn't Rory just apologise for not fucking guessing, amirite?
But he took the ring off! It made everything okay! (according to Rory anyway) 🤦♀️
No he said I do - then did Rory. Rory’s letter is what got him divorced and then he learned from this actions.
Dean was actually fully married at the time that they slept together! We actually get a great scene where Lorelei tells Rory that he's Lindsey's Dean and she's the other woman (a rare moment where she holds Rory accountable for her behavior)
But because her mother has never (or very rarely) done it before, Rory can't handle being held accountable
@@mannaporanna2678 oh for sure! It sends her on a whole spiral 😂
I think it’s unfair to say that she never worked hard. She just never learned to cope with failure all that well. There are lots of examples of her being confronted with a challenge, and yes, she usually has a meltdown initially, but she usually rallies (the semester off notwithstanding). When she first arrives in Chilton she realizes she’s way over her head, and she wants to give up because she has a pathological fear of failure, but we actually watch her struggle to catch up. Mr Medina is a big advocate for her in that process. And when Paris makes her realize that extra curricular activities are important in college applications (even though the Dean of her school warned about it much earlier), she panics, but ultimately at least tries to get engaged. And when she realizes she can’t maintain the same sort of class-load as her grand did at her age, she looses it, but it’s not like she isn’t putting the work in. She just doesn’t understand why that work isn’t enough. I think the show prioritizes drama over consistency and that makes it hard to get a beat on anyone’s character strengths and weaknesses, but I think she is a character who is able to work hard, can’t cope with failure, and doesn’t have a good blueprint for relationships.
"doesn’t have a good blueprint for relationships". Well, being abandoned by a father usually doesn't help with that, plus people here love to dismiss men's own guilt on cheating, when most women don't even know about their marriage or relationship when they do it, it's gross.
I agree. and I would also mention the fact that after she came back to yale she caught up on her off semester while doing the next semester's work at the same time, and graduating at the same time she was expected to graduate before taking the off semester. people, I think, are a bit overly harsh when talking about her work ethic imo. Rory is a hard worker, no doubt. I would more attribute her flaws to a unrealistic expectations of the world and a a sense of entitlement.
Agree with the work ethic part. Maybe it could be better (especially as an adult), but you don't become a valedictorian by accident.
Yeah, I kind of have a sense like with Rory we're going through the same thing as with other beloved TV series from 15-20 years ago ("Friends", "How I Met Your Mother") - we seem to be going through some sort of a backlash against them, with people finding "toxicity" and "entitlement" wherever they can. It seems to be a reaction to how positively these characters were received when the shows were first airing. It's like we're collectively ashamed of our own lack of awareness back then, so now we're overcorrecting in hindsight and swing the pendulum to the other side. Meanwhile those characters were not meant to be considered perfect in the first place. They were human. Noticing that some of their behaviours are bad doesn't mean that they're suddenly horrible people without any redeeming qualities, just like not noticing those traits back than didn't mean that those characters were perfect. They were never meant to be and we're punishing them for the fact we hadn't noticed it before. Rory was never supposed to be perfect, but to call her JUST an entitled brat who never worked hard is just so wildly inaccurate...
@katpiercemusic -- You have to wonder if her fear of failure wasn't at least in part due to her mom acting as a friend rather than a mother. I mean later in Rory's life, when she was old enough to be cognizant of it, not like when she was a toddler.
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"Authority figure" is almost a bad word (well, phrase, but you know what I mean) anymore. But parents aren't just there to enforce rules and supply clothes on the back, roof over the head, etc. They're also supposed to protect and stand up for and shelter (as in give them a safe space, not as in keep them ignorant) kids in hard times. Give them support while they mess up (because kids will, it's part of growing up) and are learning from it.
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Maybe the way Rory is written, assuming there is meant to realism and character consistency and not just bad melodrama writing, is supposed to indicate some degree of subconscious abandonment issues anxiety. She doesn't quite have a mom to fall back on, she has a live-in 'bestie'. So she has to be perfect, can't fail, because she herself is truly the only one, adult or otherwise, she really 100% has that "has her back". And then when she meets the real world, where she is smacked with the truth that she isn't special or perfect and has no guaranteed free ride...
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Then that ugly shock hits harder, and the lack of emotional safety net of an actually-a-mom parental figure means she falls further and spirals harder than she might've otherwise had she had a proper support network. It's scary to fail, but even moreso when you don't feel you have anywhere safe to land to recover and try again from.
I think it also came back to bite Lorelai in the ass that she had coddled Rory so much and that she prided herself on having "the good kid" like when she overheard Paris admitting she lost her virginity and told herself that Rory was good because she hadn't yet. But Rory would lose it to a married man.
Rory is what happens when you never criticize a kid or tell them no. One person tells her she's not good enough and she drops out of an Ivy League school. I do hate that she turned out that way but then again; it is realistic.
I think that her parents were so controlling and emotionally abusive that she went out of her way to become Rory's friend and didn't act like her parent at times. A cycle of bad parenting all around.
I never understood why she wanted to pursue journalism, she had no drive for it, she wasn’t interested in justice in any way, or things that could concern her and her surroundings, I always thought she was gonna study English literature bcuz of how much she loved reading, and that could’ve been a good path for her, and I totally see why Logan’s dad told her she didn’t have it, and he was right. She had no self-awareness unlike most journalists.
I agree, Logan's dad probably wasn't the nicest and he could have worded it in a kinder more constructive way but I don't think he was wrong - Rory could have done so many other things that she'd be good at if she hadn't put all her energy and efforts solely into journalism, but instead this destroyed her confidence in doing anything at all
What infuriated me about Rory was that she turned up her nose at a teaching gig at Chilton! It was handed to her on a silver platter and when youre broke, a freaking job is a job!
I dont feel she learned anything from her difficulties and shes now bringing a child into it.
She continued to be a cheater with absolutely no shame. Stole her mom's story. All while whining. Yah... sorry, Rory sucks.
Oh and her mom is celebrating her marriage to the man she's loved for years and Rory drops the baby news on her... Like girl, give a damn day! One day not about your messy life!
The last two sentences. Like dayum, she really could have waited and not crap on a great memory for Lorelei.
Totally agree! I think teaching position was a great offer for a girl who wrote one good article. I think if she could see this it would mean she changed and grow up. It could be something she did herself. Instead she chose to break her mom’s life to the public without asking, and the book’s idea was not even her own!!! And of course why to let her mother to shine and to focus on the man she loves. How Rory can write when she has no idea that other people could have feelings and self-worth?😂😂
Lol yeah rory infront of a class that is set for bad behaviour? She would be eaten in five minutes 😂 teaching is much more than just having the knowledge. You have to handle the pupils as well. It's okay if you don't feel up to the challenge. Even her being an university professor I don't see particularly because you have to teach classes as well. Maybe being a secretary would've fulfilled her if it wasn't said to her as an insult.
@@not-a-ghost2206 In the show they had her working with the students at Chilton and she was a natural. They showed that she could explain difficult concepts in a simple way. She would probably just have to do a diploma and then she'd be in.
In regards to Rory vs Paris community service, the problem is that Rory did her community service in an unconscious way and didn't look at it as lengthen her CV. It was often said and shown on the show that Rory participated in Star Hollow's events and fundraisers. The first time Paris visited Rory's house, Lorilai was organizing a Star Hollow rummage sale and Rory was helping. She helped out so much Taylor assumed that she would be his ice cream princess, even though she was going off to Yale in a few days. .
Rory did community service, Paris barely. I don't get this lmfao. Just because someone doesn't put in it in their CV, doesn't mean they didn't do it. I don't put all my jobs or volunteering experience in my CV, aside from one related to my field, because I think it's tacky as hell "look at me, I did volunteering at animal shelters and food banks woh woh hire me", what a phony piece of trash.
You do it to give to the community, not because you want to put it in your CV because it looks cute to people hiring you, unless it's related to your field, and then it's okay because it shows you have experience. Tf kind of opportunistic world do you all live in? Do you put it in your CV when you fart for a good cause?
I would never put my animal shelter, food bank or political party volunteering in my CV, it's tacky as shit, unless I did want to apply to a similar job, but I don't want a job in politics, it's all full of opportunistic corrupt people with a few good ones sprinkled, and I can assure you the good ones do not want a political career. Maybe animal shelters I'd consider, but it's a maybe.
It's the same with a degree. You have a degree. Now you have to spend over 100 bills to get a diploma just to prove a bunch of people you did it, you went and finished university. It's exhausting. You have to spend more time proving people you did things than actually doing those things, just as companies spend more time and resources advertising for products than actually betting on the quality and resistance of their products.
Your CV should have one page. One. No one will read more than that. Imagine a person who's done a lot of volunteering putting all that in their CV, are you insane?! It's as if you're just exhibiting yourself, "look at me I did this and that, I'm so good omg I have to prove myself to these suits people who have to validate me". People love this culture of parading their accomplishments around, and if you don't do that, it looks like you did nothing with your life, lol genuinely fuck that culture. I know what I did, y'all bitches don't have to know shit from my private life if I don't want you to. Not even my mom knows everything and thank fk she doesn't, what a nightmare it is that we live in this world where you all think people need to parade themselves and what they did good in life, which often they just assume is normal stuff to do (volunteering for animal shelters is a normal thing to do, you don't need to advertise it ffs). I started my first job at 16 at night, I don't need to advertise that either, the people who matter will know, those who don't need to stop throwing out idiotic opinions onto other people just because they don't tell you everything, maybe you're not owned an explanation or justification of another person's life, especially if you aren't close or aren't in it. Period.
In order to be valued for anything, as humans, it seems to all of you, that we are obligated to advertise ourselves, our work, and our accomplishments. Nothing is private anymore, everything HAS to be measured to a point of obsession. We aren't people anymore, we're products who sell ourselves for the worth of what we do and accomplish so rich men can earn money and excuse their sins on us. Social media and neoliberalism fucked your collective brains beyond repair, and I just adore seeing the faces of people who know nothing about me when they look at the amount of jobs I've had, or volunteering I've done, and told them nothing about because it's none of their business, while they opened their traps to talk shit. It's just lovely to prove people wrong. Me and my aunt aren't close, why tf should I send her a CV with all the jobs I had to justify and demonstrate I have worked? Yikes. It's really sad the world you all live in right now, I feel really sad for you. Only the people close to me deserve to know every detail about me, and those who I choose to, you all want to make everything public and it disgusts me beyond belief that people cannot choose who to trust their information to anymore.
You could spend like a week straight watching all of the Rory Gilmore videos posted on RUclips. haha.
I like how you didn't villify her for her mistakes and instead chose to show it as chances to grow and learn.
Controversial Take: It was brave of Rory to drop out of Yale if she'd genuinely used the time to explore her own interests and it was not cool of Lorelai to stop speaking to Rory over it. A lot of people blame that all on Mitchum and Logan but a lot of college students questions their choices once they get into the real world like Rory but Lorelai said she'd wanted to be a journalist since she was four & basically that she had to stick to it. Rory was never allowed to deviate from the plan until as it turned out, there wasn't much actually planned for Rory's future.
She was 'brave', but 'courage' comes from the privilege of knowing that it's okay to disconnect from Yale for a while - without serious consequences -. She's a Gilmore, and people like the Gilmores aren't hugely affected; they travel to Europe to think about life (like she did). If she were an ordinary person, she would have to put up with the job and move on with her life whether she wanted to or not. Reality is not sweet, and neither is courage.
But I consider that to be the point of Gilmore Girl - to keep their privileges silent in the name of the audience's (false) relatability.
Oh I definitely Lorelai handled it wrong if she had let Rory stew for a couple she could have changed her mind or let her stay at home but not free load get a job and contribute she would have gone back sooner. I agree there were missed opportunities like Rory could have decided event planning was more her thing with the DAR
Also, why were all the boys in love with her? She didn't even dated or went out of her house. Lorelai's love life is way more relatable
The boys aren't in love with her? They're just boys, passing time and flirting mindlessly until they actually fall for someone and stop using her, what do you expect lol. If the boys were in love with her, they would take her out on dates out of the house, not cheat or do whatever and use her. Men who like you and re in love with you take you out on dates, they don't marry other women and then use you while they lie to both. You made your own point against yourself, funnily enough. But she did go out of the house though...
You're comparing a grown woman and a teenager...
@whosme-vg6oh -- Kinda gives you Bella Swan vibes, in that she's not ugly or a heinous b*tch, so it's not that no one should've liked her, but rather, she's not THAT hot or charismatic so why did EVERYONE like her? What are the odds every dude (of note in the story) was just that into her?
To be fair, the show only focuses on the boys who had feelings for her. Rory interacted with LOADS of boys throughout the series who had no interest in her.
This is a problem on so many shows. Everyone just falls in love right away.
Rory did actually try a lot. In the first couple of seasons. She never needed to try too hard for too long, but during the first seasons, she still has some tenacity and applies herself to the school antics. Unlike later seasons when she folds like a wet paper towel at the tiniest bit of resistance.
Rory made some effort, but it was not Paris level or the effort to be valedictorian Ivy League level. If Rory was rewarded for effort, she would have had a B or B+ average and gone to a state university.
@@cbushin Paris I thought was an example of working hard but not smart. Rory worked very hard but she didn't stress herself out, she studied what she needed to study, she made sure she was interested, she engaged with other students and tried to learn from them. Rory having a social life probably helped her get better grades. Paris spent a lot of time studying, but there's no point in that if you're not studying effectively.
The funny thing is that Lorelai was seen as a "failure" who didn't achieve her "full potential" like that is an actual measurable thing. Meanwhile, Lorelai did take risks and endured actual hardships at points and, yes, "everything worked out" for her in the end.
It's true that Lorelai relied on the help of her parents as well when Rory went to Chilton but before then, we're lead to believe, she made do without help because she gained life skills and put living life the way she wants as a priority.
Rory had the priority of "being an amazing journalist" and had no actual life skills that she needed to develop to get there. All she did was being good at school and have great organizational skills. When Mitchum told her she's less journalist material (but she was clearly great assistant material), she fell apart because she wasn't making her skills work towards having her life, she was making them work towards a very ill-defined "higher goal."
I grew up in a very similar situation. My mother and I were refugees at one point and she had to work so hard just to live her life at so many points. She had a great talent but possibly never reached her "full potential" because life just wasn't as livable where she was from and escaping all of her hardships meant taking a risk, meant not being part of a higher echelon of society, starting fresh and having zero security.
Thanks to her, I grew up in a situation where my good grades and talents were enough to let me breeze through school all the way into a great university. And then I had a miniature breakdown at 19 because I felt scared of the future, not knowing who I want to be. But thank god for having a family that didn't feed the delusion of the "golden child" and instead helped me approach this sort of crisis in a very pragmatic and level-headed way. I stoped pursuing my silly idea of "my ultimate goal of who I want to become" and chose a new major and let myself gradually decide what I want to do in life and that there is no such thing as your ultimate self or your full potential but you instead adapt your abilities and develop them as you go. And you might discover some you would never have thought you'd have!
The hypocrisy of rory of all people calling logan a cheater is wild considering he really thought they were 100% broken up where she never cared if she was in a relationship or not. Or if the people she sleeps with are literally MARRIED. Shes been a cheater since she was a kid and logan didnt even know he was cheating... I'd argue he wasn't
I haven't watched this show but I think Lorelai parentified Rory. It seems like she planted the idea of Yale and a prestigious Ivy League education onto Rory because she couldn't do it herself and that disappointed her parents. People look at Rory and Lorelai's relationship as if it is normal for a mother to be "best friends" with their teenage daughter. That's not normal, it's weird. I think Rory grew up with severe identity issues and the fact that she got to a point of wanting to write a book about her mother's life instead of her own shows that.
I watched this show with my mother, who was also my best friend, but the funniest part of the entire experience was how she'd flame Lorelai as a parent. She'd say, "You may get the blessing of being your daughter's parent and also her best friend but you can't be your daughter's best friend instead of being her parent." I agree about the Ivy League thing... in a way, I think Lorelai turned Rory into the daughter she wanted to be for her own parents had she not gotten pregnant. In fact, I side with Rory dropping out of Yale to figure things out, a lot of college kids question their choices it's normal but Lorelai stopped talking to Rory & said to her, "you've wanted to be a journalist since you were four." What kind of mother holds their child to something like that?
Rory wasn't parentified.
There are many instances during the show of Rory taking on more of a parent role to Lorelei. Talking about Lorelei’s relationship choices to the level she does is inappropriate. Rory also feels compelled to solve adult problems for Lorelei (remember her interference with the termite issue).
I think Rory’s struggles and behavior are realistic for her upbringing. I see her as a people-pleaser and without a solid identity of her own. She never had the opportunity to fully develop and understand her own preferences. Lorelei is just as controlling as Emily. And she has major issues with men, stemming from Christopher’s inconsistent presence in her life.
Jess and her had a “special” bond because they both had chaotic upbringings and he understood her in a way Dean couldn’t. He was one of the only people that saw who she really was.
Lorelais relationship with Rory is codependent. And when Rory is having a hard time and drops out of college lorelai stops talking to her which is cruel since she’s spent her whole life being codependent with her mother .
This translates over to men too. There is a serious section of the upper middle class and rich who see their parents/family’s success s their own. Mad Men shows this in the 3rd season with the a trust fund friend of Pete Campbell. Too many of these kids have had a serious leg up in life. They never have had to eat what they hunt. They have a safety net and they mistake luck for skill. I admit, I am kind of happy that Gilmore Girls went there.
That’s interesting given that Alexis Bledel (Rory), and Vincent Karthieser (Pete) got along so well enough to get married, I never realized it could’ve been due to how much or what they have in common in their roles.
I don't see anyone here criticising the men for cheating on their women, while probably they hid their wives or gfs from her. A bunch of sexist trash is all this is.
Gf. # 😮😮😅
In other words, Rory was spoiled and was never taught how to be a functional adult, or at least how to be humble, which stagnated her development as an adult. Definitely big-fish-small-pond syndrome.
Part of the blame is Lorelai's, she was the one that put the Harvard idea on Rory's mind along with telling her she's special, with Rory she's fulfilling her failed dream of going to a prestigious university, as you can see when she sees the valedictorians wall on Harvard and stared at the picture of the woman that graduated the year she would have to.
A different take: Rory actually managed to sustain and assert herself in a preppy private school, against all odds, writing interesting articles on school pavements. She was unapologetic about her ambitions. She stood up against Paris when she was attacking weaker peers. The Rory in the later seasons is almost unrecognizable. The college Rory never talks about her courses or her professors, becomes a spiteful reviewer and ends up as a boy-crazy cheater. Also, people forget that the career of journalism completely changed in her generation. Yes, the final season showed that she failed at adapting, but she did write a book in the end. But: She is the heiress of a family fortune though, she was never poor.
Apart from the huge inheritance, she for sure would have benefited from nepotism through either Yale or the Gilmore connections and would have landed a good journalism job. That part was always mind-boggling to me in the new season.
@@queridasolar1711I know right??? She's a gasp Gilmore! That alone would've given her a job in the harsh economic years of 2008 and 2014. I know, I went through it. 😢
I'd say she was poor. As a kid she lived in a shed that had a curtain instead of bathroom walls, and that was because the inn owner took pity on them. Lorelai could not afford clothes for Rory so she made them from her t-shirts.
Even if Lorelai could have turned to her parents for help, the reality Rory grew up in was of being poor (not like starvation-poor, but not comfortable or stable without the safety net of a kind employer and friends), until Lorelai worked enough to build them a good home.
Otherwise I agree, and I think many videos on Rory are a little too harsh. Also, I have a lot in common with Rory and in reality a lot of those things can happen and be uglier too (bigger mistakes, more misguided, more naive, getting lost and overwhelmed etc).
I don't like the claim that Rory had things so easy, she did study a lot, and it was often mentioned, for example by others saying it/praising her for it, because it doesn't make good TV to just watch someone study!
She was poor and born into a poor single-mom family, and sure as hell didn't cheat. Her grandparents are dicks, and if you have to bootlick terrible people like Logan and his family, or anyone who unfairly accuses you of cheating, you're downhill.
@@RebeccaEd "I'd say she was poor. As a kid she lived in a shed that had a curtain instead of bathroom walls, and that was because the inn owner took pity on them. Lorelai could not afford clothes for Rory so she made them from her t-shirts.
Even if Lorelai could have turned to her parents for help, the reality Rory grew up in was of being poor (not like starvation-poor, but not comfortable or stable without the safety net of a kind employer and friends), until Lorelai worked enough to build them a good home".
This. People delude themselves into thinking that just because someone's grandparents are rich, it means they are. If your grandparents disown or dislike you, you're getting no money lol, it's so funny to me how people see the world. And yeah, doesn't make for good tv to watch someone study, but they sure wanna make it out as if people don't make efforts for anything.
I think a big take away from this noting that you say she "isn't a bad person" is to learn to shift our perspective from bad people to good people (which is a point I think you indirectly make here). She for example saw her self as good so rather than recognizing that she has good and bad in her (like everybody else) she ends up struggling to grow at times.
In short, Rory is a spoiled rich girl
And with all the opportunities she had....even back in 2007. She couldn't make a blog? It was the equivalent of Instagram for writers and journalists back then.
Yeah, sure. Just because you say it, makes it true. Maybe get a job at Pizza Hut at 16 and a bunch of other mindless jobs and then come talking trash online, but bet your mommy paid your bills for you to be on discord talking shit about those who had to work call center jobs, restaurant jobs, and all sorts of jobs and cannot do it now because they're terrified of being harassed by people like you.
a spoiled rich girl who convinced herself that her mother's struggles were hers
thst`s why women are obsessed with rory
Rory's hobbies were travelling, knowing lots of alternative and non-mainstream music, books of all kinds including philosophy and politics, and movies of all kinds. Paris was
often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to that theathre kid. Rory was kind to him. She was also kind when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled. Do some real research, please.
The only person in Gilmore Girls who made totally sense to me was Luke. I love the series but for me Luke was the one constant in the series.
Until the arrival of April. Then Luke became an oblivious idiot and a real jerk when he and Lorelai went to the Hamptons for valentine’s Day
Luke and Jess I loved
Luke is a Neanderthal jerk Jess is just a jerk
She would have been better if she never went to Chilton. She became under the influence of the Gilmore grandparents and it set expectations for what her life should have been. So, she lost her edge that came from her previous middle class background. Her mother tried her best to warn of the trappings of that upper class. Her mother let up her guard by letting her parents back in.
One reason why it made me laugh cause for my dad he never went to a prep school to get into the biggest hard college to MIT and then went to grad school in Stamford. He went to a not so great public school and wasn’t valedictorian but got an extreme high Above Average on his SAT’s to have him get in. Did he do extra curricular and volunteer yes. I say this is a great example like you don’t need to apply for prep school to get into the Ivy League’s just be sure your in a good public school.
Dean wasn't just engaged, they were already married!
The creators of this video seem to have gotten all mixed up. They said Rory kissed Jess while Dean was engaged. Actually, when Rory kissed Jess, Rory was Dean's girlfriend and Lindsey was not on the show yet. So, Rory was the only one cheating when she cheated on Dean. Personally, I never liked Lindsey and even without cheating that marriage between two teenagers, one of which didn't think she should have to contribute to their income at all while she demanded that Dean get them money to buy a house that would've been at least $100,000 within one year means the marriage was doomed even if Rory didn't exist. I don't condone his cheating, but there was no way that marriage would've ended up being anything but a dumpster fire. Dean shouldn't have cheated. He should've ended his marriage then moved on with someone else. However, the someone else should not have been Rory, because she would've just cheated on him again, because that's who she is.
This post gave me a headache no wonder I gave up on the show when April showed up. @@Nikki-oe7gr
Yea in the clips Lorelai even pointed it out
@@Nikki-oe7gr You're all insanely over the top about other people's lives. And no, she was single when she kissed Jess.
@@ellipsismsRory was not single when she kissed Jess, she was dating Dean. She then left for her school trip to Washington, she came back and was still dating Dean while being jealous that Jess was dating Shane
also, of course she assumed they were going to just give her the job, they had been hounding her and begging her for months to take the job. it was incredibly bizarre how they treated it like she needed to sell herself to them when they had already told her they wanted to give her the job many times
I like Yale Rory more than Chilton Rory. She was just more complex, interesting and realistic.
right? I like it when she f*cks up and learns! maybe not what we all expect her to learn, but she grows! the static 'good girl' who's only a foil to Lorelai might be aspirational, but not real
@@ldra795 Exactly! It's better to have a heavily flawed character instead of a perfect one.
@@ldra795she didn‘t learn though
Never been this early, love your Gilmore Girls content!
I’ve learned so much on what not to do as mother so that my daughter doesn’t become a Rory.
I do that by reading comments and what people write on youtube, twitter, etc. What a coincidence! I have tons of inspirations from many people who are bad examples, including cheating dudes who hide their gfs/wives, or lie about it, then blame someone else for their mistakes.
I wish you the best of luck on raising your daughter.
First, I completely disagree that "she never had to work for anything". She CONSTANTLY studied during Chilton times, always worked hard for her grades. If we speak about relationships - yes, everyone just fell to her feet - and it did not seem realistic.
Second, it always baffles me how "Lorelei is so great" in discussions how Rory turned into a brat. Hello, it was her mommy who told her every minute how special she is - until it was too late.
Altogether, I don't feel that the writers even had THE ending in mind, that is why it is rather useless to seek reasons for Rory's demise in earlier seasons.
I just feel that she was TOO perfect in the beginning, so she didn't have any way up to go - and she went down as a charakter
Dean wasn't engaged to Lindsay. He was married to Lindsay. Even the clip you used Lorelei says "he's married."
Honestly, Rory would have turned out so much better if she never went to chilton
When I watched Rory when I was younger. She kind of rubbed me the wrong way, when Paris entered I was like god I relate to her so much, and still do lol. Now, watching Rory as an adult, I see she had a great character growth but it just kept stomping. I also felt like Paris challenged out of Rory comfort zone, so I was glad Paris went to Yale with her, and Paris grew too as a person
Thanks for watching! Next up, check out our video on how Gilmore Girls' Paris Geller went from villain to smart girl icon! ruclips.net/video/le2IWahezk8/видео.html
Ah, we were all so young once. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.
My autistic ass has made the takes last Rory Gilmore video my favorite comfort video, so this upload hits different ❤
Super smart Rory spent her life thinking she was super smart. She was completely unprepared to meet Mitchum Huntzberger. Mitchum was the first person in her life to not be impressed by her pile of books and quoting Eudora Welty. Lorelai was just as bad as Rory. She enabled Rory, and kept her away from Emily and Richard. It is possible that Emily would have helped Rory to not be entitled, but Richard also enabled her too much. Emily Gilmore had the potential to help prepare Rory for Yale and to meet Mitchum Huntzberger, but Lorelai isolated her and prevented that.
Lorelai went overboard compensating for the emotional neglect of her own childhood, but she had no concept of how much encouragement was too much.
Paris probably lost valedictorian due to her tantrum where whilw giving a televised speech in her pajamas, she started ranting about how if she hadn't had sex with her boyfriend she would have gotten into Harvard. People tend to forget about that.
I used to admire Rory so much back in the earlier seasons. I still do cause I admire her study ethics, however, she didn’t seem as worldly as Lorelei was. Like in getting to know how the world works and life beyond stars ✨ hollow she was definitely spoiled. She’s a great person who made bad choices and she got on my last nerves sometimes. But I really like your take 😉 lol on this.
Compared to most teenage characters, she is better in all aspects. Let’s pick any character from gossip girl or pretty little liars. The title of these videos should be « Rory is not perfect »not « Rory is all wrong »
Forget Squarespace, It's videos like these that really helps me with my writing.
I fear for your writing, then, because if this is trash (I deem trash anything that is filled with lies, such as this), I can imagine what you're going to write...
@@ellipsisms I take inspirations from a multitude of videos, not just gilmore girls, and i put the themes into consideration when I develop characters and motivations.
I'll be honest I have the same flaw as Rory in that I can be a bit snobbish and wanting to be more special than everyone and can be more egotistical at times. I think a lot of milennials and genz's or people in general have that flaw but done like to admit it and have been raised that way why people talk about "main character syndrome". Its sometime I'm slowly working on as a former gifted kid it but it's why I find Rory's down fall arc so important cause these wake up calls are realistic when you've grown up sheltered and feeling like the main character even with struggles. Growing up privileged and egotistical cause of it isn't your fault but these wake up calls and learning to choose to be more self-aware and humble instead of egotistical is kinda your responsibility and that's okay.
I feel myself very identified with Rory's journey. I always have been taught that "introvert, good grades, work hard, good maners girl" have a reward at the end. A happy and sucessful adulthood. The reality is quite different, with a lot of aleatory factors that can determine your success and you having to travel alone in a see of incertainty when you have been in a bubble all your youth. Even if Rory have a great support anyways, I feel very identified with the fact that her adulthood become a mess. Because adulthood is a mess
10:31 - 10:43 Rory started out having a decent work ethic... The problem was lack of flexibility; Rory only knew of one approach when pouring her effort into projects, and once habitual tactics no longer rewarded her, she had no clue how to respond. Couple that with familial pressure and the need to grow up before adolescence, and Rory got the message that her life's work was all for naught!
I feel like these videos have become repetitive.
the, "controversy", over her writing a book in the reunion series was just weird to me since, literally from the first episode of the original series, she was always going to write a book about growing up with her mum, multiple times referring to it as her, "tell all"
simplistic title - "Wrong about everything". Maybe about most stuff, overall problemaric attitude etc. No one is wrong about "everything".
I can honestly say I’ve never looked at Rory in this light. Now that I have, it’s glaringly obvious.
This actually explains so much
Rory had privilege, but she had worked hard to get into college etc. I MEAN she is portrayed as someone who spends her life studying. She was immature about failure among other things, but that is normal? I mean she's a teenager then a young adult, who is not immature?
Plus she had defined herself as the one who excels academically, and i can see how as an immature young adult would have an identity crisis when it comes to failure.
I think it's a bit unfair to Rory to claim she didn't try and didn't put in effort. At least the young Rory of the original show was always hard working. Maybe not as hard working as Paris, but she always pulled her weight. But she was used to and later took completely for granted that her efforts would always lead to big rewards and get her exactly what she wanted to. So when her efforts didn't bring her success with flying colours she was completely taken by surprise and unable to handle it. Especially at her infamous internship at Hunzberger. She also put in a lot of effort. Unfortunately she didn't try to be the best journalist she could be but instead tried hard to be the worlds biggest suck-up and Mitchum didn't fall for it.
Rory, a member of the elite when convenient, someone who grew up with nothing when convenient.
When is she a member of the elite, when people who know nothing about her tell her she is one? I agree with you, but it isn't her that's the problem, it's the people around her. She did grow up with nothing (not 'nothing', but not super comfortable either), people just love calling others spoiled and elite as a way of deflecting or putting blame on the person themselves, changing their whole discourse when it's convenient for them. That's not Rory's fault, that's other people's, they are always contradictory, they can never keep a straight argument. I was called "privileged" by my aunt today because I can't find a job right now and am living at my mom's house since her stroke (wish I wasn't), but I started working part-times at 16, worked restaurants, call-centers, ice-cream shops where I only knew my schedule the day before, airports where I was humiliated and berated. It will all depend who you talk to, and what the circumstances are, people only talk about others as it's convenient for them and the interests of whoever commands the troops. Nothing more simple than that.
I don't understand your remark as anything other than a criticism of others. Unless you're talking about another person. I don't discount the work some people have done, but some I criticise for stealing and proving their 'work' by stealing other people's chance to express themselves. I don't discount the work of famous people like taylor swift, her lyrics are phenomenal, have a lot of literary and other references only a well-read person could write, and I quote them too plenty of times - the actual singer I mean. But the women who pretend to be her on twitter, who haven't written a single line, or who people refer to as her (not talking about those singing her songs, but actual women everyone refers to as her, weirdly), are just odd, and they are usually the same ones writing stuff for people, sometimes lies, for people who aren't allowed to express themselves and should.
@@ellipsisms "My ancestors came here on the Mayflower" It's a high society power move.
@@robinkholmes7127 to be fair: can you honestly say that if you were snubbed by a very rich family simply because they don't think your family is good enough for them - meanwhile your family was also objectively very well-regarded, just not quite as wealthy as these people - you wouldn't say something similar? Are you absolutely sure? Because I certainly can't say that about myself. They rejected her for not being good enough according to a specific standard and she rightly pointed out that she definitely should qualify based on that very standard. It wasn't like they said: "she's not educated enough, she's not nice enough, she's not smart enough" and her reply was "well yeah but who cares because MaYfLoWeR!". The criticism was "her family background is below us" (and that's not because of the Gilmore family as such - they socialise with Emily and Richard! - but because Rory grew up raised by Lorelai, and not in a traditional "rich family" way). She simply pointed out that it isn't. It was also the only time in the whole series she said anything like that, it's not like she was going around and rubbing her Mayflower background in people's faces. She didn't care about it - she only brought it up because the Huntzbergers cared. I don't see what's so wrong with that, I think it was a very natural reaction on her part and her annoyance was understandable.
@@AW-uv3cb I'd prefer to emphasize my accomplishments/the ability to enjoy my place in life
I think Paris had WAAAAY more issues than Rory ever did. I loved Rory so much, I thought she was a sweetheart
Roly first season was good later on she was annoying and a cheater she is really pretty privileged. One thing I wish she studied another thing like medicine or something else
The Take, please correct your claim - Rory had hobbies. all the town activities. writing, debating, learning three foreign languages, indie style music, travelling and learning abour geography and politics.
The creators of this video seem to have gotten all mixed up. They said Rory kissed Jess while Dean was engaged. Actually, when Rory kissed Jess, Rory was Dean's girlfriend, and Lindsey was not on the show yet. So, Rory was the only one cheating when she cheated on Dean. Personally, I never liked Lindsey and even without cheating that marriage between two teenagers, one of which didn't think she should have to contribute to their income at all while she delusionally, selfishly demanded that Dean get them money to buy a house, that would've been at least $100,000 in those days, within only one year of him working his butt off, means the marriage was doomed even if Rory didn't exist. I don't condone his cheating, but there was no way that marriage would've ended up being anything but a dumpster fire. Dean shouldn't have cheated. He should've ended his marriage then moved on with someone else. However, the someone else should not have been Rory, because she would've just cheated on him again and he should've seen that, because that's who she is.
Yea, its like they watched a couple of RUclips videos about the show but never actually bothered to watch it themselves
"“Her most egregious was, of course, when she slept with Dean, her first love (who she had actually cheated on with Jess) while he was engaged to someone else". It could have been phrased better, but they do say Rory cheated on Dean with Jess, separate to him being married later. The incorrect thing is that he's married, not engaged when they sleep together. The point is that she'd already cheated on Dean when they were boyfriend/girlfriend and then slept with him later when he was married, showing how her cheating (or being involved in cheating) began to become a pattern.
“He’d not a married man. He’s Dean, MY DEAN!”🙄😂
5:24 - 5:31 While many things came easily to Rory before college, she still had to put in effort. The problem was assuming she didn't need to diversify tactics...
One of the worst things Gilmore Girls A Year In The Life is that Amy Sherman Palladino backtracked all of the characters to where they were in season six because she didn't write season seven. I've always hated her cyclic lives idea that ultimately Rory ends up living a similar life to her mother but that makes zero sense. When you go back to rewatch Gilmore Girls, neither Lorelai or Rory come off as particularly good people and while Lorelai might like to think she escaped that elitist world of her parents for the small town charm of Stars Hollow, she really didn't either.
I can’t imagine Paris working a suicide hotline 😂😂😂
What happens when you try to be your child’s friend than their parent
"rewarding her just for existing" is also overstating things, she was a very diligent student.
Could you guys make another video talking about bromance, especially based on how often in older media make-friendships were treated differently more female-friendships even though relationships maybe shouldn't be do heavily dependent on "gender differences" like how male+friendships without romance are actually possible and the queer community is allowing us to redefine our view on friendship and platonic/nonromantic relationships
With that mom and grandparents, who could blame Rory for anything?
I remembered loving this show so much when it first aired but on Rory character I thought her fashion clothes were too preppy where I was more of the artsy type fashion kind of girl. Though I liked was in the same journey as her wanted to study and do well in school to get into college but for me with a learning disability lots like to put me down believing I shouldn’t go to a four year college because of my situation and just go to community college to make it more easier. But nope I proved them wrong.
I am happy for you.
Mostly it was just the writers going for the quick laugh or pay off and not thinking things through as much as fans of the show did.
Rory was always kinda selfish and didn't care about morals (cheating was okay for her. She cheated on all of her boyfriends lol
12:03 - 12:05 For all the idyllic things about Rory's formative years, she had to mature too early in life because of her mother's immaturity. Don't forget how Rory's mother was on the same page as her grandparents when it came to the girl's future... That second fact means she felt *intense* pressure from her family since she was first capable of perceiving such things!!
Attributing Rory's downfall *solely* to having fewer challenges before college is a horrible oversimplification. If it weren't, then Rory might have been quicker to realize her need for adaptability...
@thetake could you maybe please update these Iies about Rory? she was handed by Paris an assignment to write article about pavement, and she managed to make it interesting. She discovered all on her own that LifeandDeath Brigade exists and that Logan's grandfather was in it. Mitchum was NOT honest, he was wrong, she absolutely did have the drive and ability to dig, find a story and write it well. Paris was
often openly mean to people for no reason, repeatedly, like to
So I have an older boyfriend, and he's got an 18 year old daughter, and we have an 11 year old daughter together. The 18 year old is FAWNED over just like Rory, by his immediate family. They tell her she's the most gorgeous thing they've ever seen [she's cute, but no model] and so intelligent, and her only flaw is that she's a little socially awkward. The entitlement of this child is unbearable. She's never had a job, no work ethic at all. She thinks she's going to be handed everything somehow? They give her money for the most menial tasks, and they're working on getting her a car. She's "homeschooled" since 8th grade but really she's done nothing but stay up all night arguing with me that coffee at 6pm isn't keeping her up. She's got an excuse for it all. She's never apologized for anything. My kid though she's expected to clean up after herself, they get onto her for everything. Not once called her even cute or pretty. But everyone outside this bubble thinks the opposite. My mom reminded me people like this flounder later in life. They're doing her no good. No one cares that grandma thinks she's the most special thing in the world if she doesn't contribute or the slightest bit self aware.
I can't believe Rory is only a year younger than me! I thought she was like 6-7 years younger. I guess she will age well!!!
There is only one truth to this given the fact that everyone disliked Rory in the end but appreciated Lorelai and that is because Lorelai was raised by her parents as bad as she claimed they were, and Rory was raised by Lorelai... and that says it all. Being smart is not everything. Emily was more of a mother to Lorelai than Lorelai ever was to Rory. That, on top of the fact that there was no father figure for her. The first step into downfall was leaving Dean for douche Jess who was not only pushy with her but also incredibly disrespectful to her family. Then, she was too good to marry Logan given the fact that her own mom was not a fan of marriage, but was fine to be his mistress, then ended up cheating on her boyfriend and sleeping with a random guy on the street.
Paris was a brilliantly written character.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the take that she haven't to try because everything tend to fall in her lap.
Rory was hands down the best pupil in Star Hollows' public school, she was the best in the private high school, you don't become a valedictorian because, and she has a nice track record in Yale. All those things come after trying, and trying a lot. By everybody's admission she is studying hard for all her life. It is very cheap to dismiss that effort, and is in compliance with a anti-scientific sentiment that emerged these last few years,that wants the people that spent their life in books "not to try in real life".
She should have gone into academia. She loved books and was good at school. She could have been a college professor maybe.
This video definitely nailed it, Rory's downfall happened because by the end of the show she too started believing everyone's hype about her and it made her lazy
whenever I re-binge this story I'm honestly doing it for Luke and Lorelei, Rory is so entitled and oblivious to others feelings it kinda gets annoying especially the more the seasons pass.
@Timbued doesn't she ask Paris to stop messing with others?isn't Rory nice to Brad the theatre kid? isn't she worried about the deer who hit her? doesn't she smuggle CDs and junk food to Lane? doesn't she admit to the teacher that she accidentally broke Paris' homework? Doesn't she always forgive Paris and
even Tristan and offer help and support in Paris' boy troubles over and over? doesn't she apologize to Lorelai at the end of the termite episode? doesn't she send a letter to Dean telling him to stay with Lindsay?
@Timbued when Paris's 2 friends were saying that Tristan asked Paris out only bcs someone else cancelled, Rory was the one to stick up for her. when Logan and his friends were rude to Marty, Rory called Logan out on it. when Jess was being a jerk to the town, Rory convinced him to start appreciating Luke and helping him.
I loved Logan SO MUCH for telling her off!! 😂
I like to ship Paris and Jess. They had other problems and could have helped each other with their character development.
Same 🙂
Feels like the capture of Rory on the show didn't help the downfall of the greatness of the Gilmore girls show. Almost akin to what made breaking bad was so good, the viewer was complicit in the genius spiral downfall of Walter white. The viewer knew they were complicit because the actions of Walter white became more heinous and terrible. Rory never killed anyone, but in the original series, cheating with a married man and never having to face the music with that decision would be like watch Walter White torture someone and the show world somehow thinking it was ok. The Viewer was never, for a lack of better word, punished for supporting the actions of Rory through and through.
I liked gilmore girls before my frontal lobe developed. Watching the show when I was older made it that I checked out when she cheats on her boyfriend waaaaaaaaaaaay at the beginning
I would not say that Rory "discounted" her mother's strengths, she actually has a fair amount of respect for her mom, but she did consider herself more mature than her mom, (and in some respects she in fact was back 🔙 then).
The sequel erased all the character growth the compressed season 7 gave Rory. Amy had a set ending in mind for the original show, unable to develop unexpectedly from character growth. That's why there was almost a decade of clamoring for Gilmore Girl sequel, but once it came the franchise died.
@smurfyday yes, the sequel/revival basically ignores season 7 fully and also ignores the last episode of season 6. Logan never escaped his father, Lorelai and Luke never got married.
I love Rory, but yeah she was WAY too sheltered. And unlike other people, if she’s having a hard time she can just go back to her hometown where everyone is welcoming her with open arms. She hasn’t been able to dig herself out of whatever mess because the people around her don’t allow her to fail. I mean she just has this need to return to a partner that made her feels safe and the guys also welcome her with open arms. Like Dean and Logan and even Jess thought he did call her out for it. Probably the only one because it took a while but he finally learned self respect. But in the end I love Rory as the flawed woman she is. And she needs some more growing up and she needs to go back to Jess. He gets her and she him.
I hate hearing that Rory didn't work hard. She got into Chilton and Yale. The real problem with her is that she wasn't much of a social person. She never did the extra things that can make or break your career. When you go looking for a job, they want to see that your open to do different things, both in and out of your field. Rory should have done an internship or something. But she was quite, reserved, and distant. Of course many people who relate to Rory love her for this. Of course none of that excuses how she treated her boyfriends.😮
how old would Rory be right now? I'm sure in reality she would have moved on with her life by now. the internet will never forgive this girl for making mistakes in her teens and twenties lol
The reboot takes place in her 30s... she sleeping with a married man, has a boyfriend who she constantly forgets about... Hasn't written anything significant in years ...and was offended when she applied for a job and they asked her to pitch ideas
@@brandonmoore5408And ends up pregnant without knowing who the father was. Go Paris!
@@brandonmoore5408 "she sleeping with a married man, has a boyfriend who she constantly forgets about", "And ends up pregnant without knowing who the father was". This side of RUclips truly is the spreading lies rally over here. Is it a competition or something for you, who spreads the most lies about people or characters you know nothing about, or what?
@ellipsisms know nothing about? I watched the show from the first episode to the last and the reboot... What in that statement is a lie? DEAN WAS MARRIED , Logan is engaged, She constantly forgot her boyfriend even existed!, She showed up to a job interview and was upset when they asked her for ideas...then was upset when they passed on her for someone else...what about all.that is a lie?
If it was a dude doing it I would agree but clearly we are on let’s drag the female not the cheating husband
Dean was actually married to Lindsay not engaged.
Rory is a beloved smart girl icon? No she's not. There are so many videos on how much people don't like her character. You are beating a dead horse.
She was during the original run. As said smart girls have grown up and revisited her, that opinion has changed
This is why they cast her in The Graduate 😂
Rory’s personality is every stereotypes of Millennials according to the older generation and the more I think of that it ruins the show for me.
It’s clearly set up from the beginning that Rory is a parentified child and has been for years. Lorelai constantly in small ways shows Rory that she can’t make mistakes as a teen because she owes her for the life she didn’t get to lead. Lorelai outright bullies Jess, and even gets his own uncle to join in, and nothing is said about that. But Rory who has had all this pressure buckles at a grown man, who is her boyfriend’s dad mind you, telling her she sucks and it’s a show of what a shitty character she is becoming?
Do an Emily video next!
Oh no, Rory is absolutely a bad person xD 1 line summary of her: Pretty rich white girl who's at her happiest when the thing she wants is close enough to touch but not enough to grasp.